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Thu, 12 July 2007 00:13  |
Tom Bruhl
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Sorry to shout but this is driving me insane.
I am working with a cloned drive that used to work with
2 Mecs and WC. Now no matter what I do, I can not
get a second Mec to show up and receive clock. It
doesn't matter if it's at the end of the line or anywhere
else. It doesn't matter if it's internally clocked or externally
clocked. I've changed Mecs, clock cables, SCSI cables
and no changes. I've even tried a reinstall of Paris.
Same deal. =20
I must be doing something totally wrong for this to continue.
The only thing else I can think to try is swapping the last=20
EDS card with another or go down to four. Maybe it's
card 5? Or, triple check the connectors between all the cards
again.
All EDS cards are up and running and play audio with Paris effects.
All 5 cards share 3 IRQs with nothing else.
What else is there?
Sadly,
Tom
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sorry to shout but this is driving me=20
insane.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am working with a cloned drive that =
used to work=20
with</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2 Mecs and WC. </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>Now no matter what I do, I can not</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>get a second Mec to show up and receive =
clock. It</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>doesn't matter if it's at the end of =
the line or=20
anywhere</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>else. It doesn't matter if it's =
internally=20
clocked or externally</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>clocked. I've changed Mecs, clock =
cables,=20
SCSI cables</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and no changes. I've even tried a =
reinstall=20
of Paris.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Same deal. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I must be doing something totally wrong =
for this to=20
continue.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The only thing else I can think to try =
is swapping=20
the last </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>EDS card with another or go down to =
four. =20
Maybe it's</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>card 5? Or, triple check the =
connectors=20
between all the cards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>again.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All EDS cards are up and running and =
play audio=20
with Paris effects.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All 5 cards share 3 IRQs with nothing=20
else.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What else is there?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sadly,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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| Re: Paris hardware troubles won't stop. HELP!!! [message #87983 is a reply to message #87977] |
Thu, 12 July 2007 05:40  |
DJ
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Have you tested each MEC individually? I'd start there. Did you =
iuninstall/reinstall Paris yet?
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:4695d5bf@linux...
Sorry to shout but this is driving me insane.
I am working with a cloned drive that used to work with
2 Mecs and WC. Now no matter what I do, I can not
get a second Mec to show up and receive clock. It
doesn't matter if it's at the end of the line or anywhere
else. It doesn't matter if it's internally clocked or externally
clocked. I've changed Mecs, clock cables, SCSI cables
and no changes. I've even tried a reinstall of Paris.
Same deal. =20
I must be doing something totally wrong for this to continue.
The only thing else I can think to try is swapping the last=20
EDS card with another or go down to four. Maybe it's
card 5? Or, triple check the connectors between all the cards
again.
All EDS cards are up and running and play audio with Paris effects.
All 5 cards share 3 IRQs with nothing else.
What else is there?
Sadly,
Tom
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Have you tested each MEC individually? =
I'd start=20
there. Did you iuninstall/reinstall Paris yet?</FONT></DIV>
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href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
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<A href=3D"news:4695d5bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sorry to shout but this is driving me =
insane.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am working with a cloned drive that =
used to=20
work with</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2 Mecs and WC. </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>Now no matter what I do, I can not</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>get a second Mec to show up and =
receive=20
clock. It</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>doesn't matter if it's at the end of =
the line or=20
anywhere</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>else. It doesn't matter if it's =
internally=20
clocked or externally</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>clocked. I've changed Mecs, =
clock cables,=20
SCSI cables</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and no changes. I've even tried =
a reinstall=20
of Paris.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Same deal. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I must be doing something totally =
wrong for this=20
to continue.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The only thing else I can think to =
try is=20
swapping the last </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>EDS card with another or go down to =
four. =20
Maybe it's</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>card 5? Or, triple check the =
connectors=20
between all the cards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>again.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All EDS cards are up and running and =
play audio=20
with Paris effects.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All 5 cards share 3 IRQs with nothing =
else.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What else is there?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sadly,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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| Re: Paris hardware troubles won't stop. HELP!!! [message #87987 is a reply to message #87977] |
Thu, 12 July 2007 06:10 |
Don Nafe
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sorry for these dumb questions Tom but...
does this second Mec work all by itself...with every card?
are you sure you have Mec #1 connected to Card A ? (where ever that card =
is in your rig)
Don
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:4695d5bf@linux...
Sorry to shout but this is driving me insane.
I am working with a cloned drive that used to work with
2 Mecs and WC. Now no matter what I do, I can not
get a second Mec to show up and receive clock. It
doesn't matter if it's at the end of the line or anywhere
else. It doesn't matter if it's internally clocked or externally
clocked. I've changed Mecs, clock cables, SCSI cables
and no changes. I've even tried a reinstall of Paris.
Same deal. =20
I must be doing something totally wrong for this to continue.
The only thing else I can think to try is swapping the last=20
EDS card with another or go down to four. Maybe it's
card 5? Or, triple check the connectors between all the cards
again.
All EDS cards are up and running and play audio with Paris effects.
All 5 cards share 3 IRQs with nothing else.
What else is there?
Sadly,
Tom
I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>sorry for these dumb questions =
Tom=20
but...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>does this second Mec work all by =
itself...with=20
every card?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>are you sure you have Mec #1 connected =
to Card=20
A ? </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>(where ever that card is in your=20
rig)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Don</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
in message=20
<A href=3D"news:4695d5bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sorry to shout but this is driving me =
insane.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am working with a cloned drive that =
used to=20
work with</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2 Mecs and WC. </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>Now no matter what I do, I can not</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>get a second Mec to show up and =
receive=20
clock. It</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>doesn't matter if it's at the end of =
the line or=20
anywhere</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>else. It doesn't matter if it's =
internally=20
clocked or externally</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>clocked. I've changed Mecs, =
clock cables,=20
SCSI cables</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and no changes. I've even tried =
a reinstall=20
of Paris.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Same deal. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I must be doing something totally =
wrong for this=20
to continue.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The only thing else I can think to =
try is=20
swapping the last </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>EDS card with another or go down to =
four. =20
Maybe it's</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>card 5? Or, triple check the =
connectors=20
between all the cards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>again.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All EDS cards are up and running and =
play audio=20
with Paris effects.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All 5 cards share 3 IRQs with nothing =
else.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What else is there?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sadly,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, =
and=20
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| Re: Paris hardware troubles won't stop. HELP!!! [message #87988 is a reply to message #87983] |
Thu, 12 July 2007 07:39 |
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Deej,
Ya, I've uninstalled, reinstalled Paris about five times total in the =
last day and a half.
I am close to starting from scratch and possibly doing the antipace =
thing.
I'm getting pretty good at it. I have Mec 1 loaded with cards attached =
to what has always
been Card A for three years. Can that change? Paris works fine with just =
that one. I'll try=20
all the others in that position just to see though.
I am close to starting from scratch and possibly doing the antipace =
thing. How could that be=20
the evil that won't allow hardware to show up?
Thanks,
Tom
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message =
news:4696229c$1@linux...
Have you tested each MEC individually? I'd start there. Did you =
iuninstall/reinstall Paris yet?
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:4695d5bf@linux...
Sorry to shout but this is driving me insane.
I am working with a cloned drive that used to work with
2 Mecs and WC. Now no matter what I do, I can not
get a second Mec to show up and receive clock. It
doesn't matter if it's at the end of the line or anywhere
else. It doesn't matter if it's internally clocked or externally
clocked. I've changed Mecs, clock cables, SCSI cables
and no changes. I've even tried a reinstall of Paris.
Same deal. =20
I must be doing something totally wrong for this to continue.
The only thing else I can think to try is swapping the last=20
EDS card with another or go down to four. Maybe it's
card 5? Or, triple check the connectors between all the cards
again.
All EDS cards are up and running and play audio with Paris effects.
All 5 cards share 3 IRQs with nothing else.
What else is there?
Sadly,
Tom
I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ya, I've uninstalled, reinstalled Paris =
about five=20
times total in the last day and a half.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am close to starting from scratch and =
possibly=20
doing the antipace thing.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm getting pretty good at it. I =
have Mec 1=20
loaded with cards attached to what has always</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>been Card A for three years. Can =
that change?=20
Paris works fine with just that one. I'll try </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>all the others in that </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>position just to see though.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am close to starting from scratch and =
possibly=20
doing the antipace thing. How could that be </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the evil that won't allow hardware to =
show=20
up?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Have you tested each MEC =
individually? I'd start=20
there. Did you iuninstall/reinstall Paris yet?</FONT></DIV>
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href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
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href=3D"news:4695d5bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sorry to shout but this is driving =
me=20
insane.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am working with a cloned drive =
that used to=20
work with</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2 Mecs and WC. </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>Now no matter what I do, I can not</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>get a second Mec to show up and =
receive=20
clock. It</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>doesn't matter if it's at the end =
of the line=20
or anywhere</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>else. It doesn't matter if =
it's=20
internally clocked or externally</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>clocked. I've changed Mecs, =
clock cables,=20
SCSI cables</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and no changes. I've even =
tried a=20
reinstall of Paris.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Same deal. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I must be doing something totally =
wrong for=20
this to continue.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The only thing else I can think to =
try is=20
swapping the last </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>EDS card with another or go down to =
four. =20
Maybe it's</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>card 5? Or, triple check the =
connectors=20
between all the cards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>again.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All EDS cards are up and running =
and play audio=20
with Paris effects.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All 5 cards share 3 IRQs with =
nothing=20
else.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What else is there?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sadly,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
spam, and=20
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Hi Don,
I can't get either of the other two mecs to work on any card.
I will check them as card A though. Thanks for the idea.
I have had 5 cards side by side in the Magma for three years.
Will Paris even boot with one card attached to card E and no others?
I thought not. But maybe I've had A and E backwards all this time?
They're the outside cards either way. The sync cable would be backwards
though since they're being daisy chained when using only two.
I'll check each mec individually and try card A as the other end just to =
see.
Thanks,
Tom
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:46962992$1@linux...
sorry for these dumb questions Tom but...
does this second Mec work all by itself...with every card?
are you sure you have Mec #1 connected to Card A ? (where ever that =
card is in your rig)
Don
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:4695d5bf@linux...
Sorry to shout but this is driving me insane.
I am working with a cloned drive that used to work with
2 Mecs and WC. Now no matter what I do, I can not
get a second Mec to show up and receive clock. It
doesn't matter if it's at the end of the line or anywhere
else. It doesn't matter if it's internally clocked or externally
clocked. I've changed Mecs, clock cables, SCSI cables
and no changes. I've even tried a reinstall of Paris.
Same deal. =20
I must be doing something totally wrong for this to continue.
The only thing else I can think to try is swapping the last=20
EDS card with another or go down to four. Maybe it's
card 5? Or, triple check the connectors between all the cards
again.
All EDS cards are up and running and play audio with Paris effects.
All 5 cards share 3 IRQs with nothing else.
What else is there?
Sadly,
Tom
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A and E=20
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way. The=20
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chained when using=20
only two.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll check each mec individually and =
try card A as=20
the other end just to see.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>sorry for these dumb questions =
Tom=20
but...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>does this second Mec work all by =
itself...with=20
every card?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>are you sure you have Mec #1 =
connected=20
to Card A ? </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>(where ever that =
card is in=20
your rig)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Don</FONT></DIV>
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href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A =
href=3D"news:4695d5bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sorry to shout but this is driving =
me=20
insane.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am working with a cloned drive =
that used to=20
work with</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2 Mecs and WC. </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>Now no matter what I do, I can not</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>get a second Mec to show up and =
receive=20
clock. It</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>doesn't matter if it's at the end =
of the line=20
or anywhere</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>else. It doesn't matter if =
it's=20
internally clocked or externally</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>clocked. I've changed Mecs, =
clock cables,=20
SCSI cables</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and no changes. I've even =
tried a=20
reinstall of Paris.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Same deal. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I must be doing something totally =
wrong for=20
this to continue.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The only thing else I can think to =
try is=20
swapping the last </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>EDS card with another or go down to =
four. =20
Maybe it's</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>card 5? Or, triple check the =
connectors=20
between all the cards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>again.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All EDS cards are up and running =
and play audio=20
with Paris effects.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All 5 cards share 3 IRQs with =
nothing=20
else.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What else is there?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sadly,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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| Re: Paris hardware troubles won't stop. HELP!!! [message #88013 is a reply to message #87988] |
Thu, 12 July 2007 17:37 |
Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
Registered: September 2005
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Senior Member |
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Tom, have you done anything to rule out the possibility that it may be a funky
MEC word clock connection, or perhaps the Lucid clock is flakey. Or even
a bad mogami wordclock cable (I know that's a longshot, but anything's possible)
Just a thought.
Rod
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Deej,
>Ya, I've uninstalled, reinstalled Paris about five times total in the =
>last day and a half.
>I am close to starting from scratch and possibly doing the antipace =
>thing.
>I'm getting pretty good at it. I have Mec 1 loaded with cards attached
=
>to what has always
>been Card A for three years. Can that change? Paris works fine with just
=
>that one. I'll try=20
>all the others in that position just to see though.
>
>I am close to starting from scratch and possibly doing the antipace =
>thing. How could that be=20
>the evil that won't allow hardware to show up?
>Thanks,
>Tom
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message =
>news:4696229c$1@linux...
> Have you tested each MEC individually? I'd start there. Did you =
>iuninstall/reinstall Paris yet?
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
>news:4695d5bf@linux...
> Sorry to shout but this is driving me insane.
>
> I am working with a cloned drive that used to work with
> 2 Mecs and WC. Now no matter what I do, I can not
> get a second Mec to show up and receive clock. It
> doesn't matter if it's at the end of the line or anywhere
> else. It doesn't matter if it's internally clocked or externally
> clocked. I've changed Mecs, clock cables, SCSI cables
> and no changes. I've even tried a reinstall of Paris.
> Same deal. =20
>
> I must be doing something totally wrong for this to continue.
> The only thing else I can think to try is swapping the last=20
> EDS card with another or go down to four. Maybe it's
> card 5? Or, triple check the connectors between all the cards
> again.
>
> All EDS cards are up and running and play audio with Paris effects.
> All 5 cards share 3 IRQs with nothing else.
> What else is there?
> Sadly,
> Tom
>
>
> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ya, I've uninstalled, reinstalled Paris
=
>about five=20
>times total in the last day and a half.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am close to starting from scratch and
=
>possibly=20
>doing the antipace thing.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm getting pretty good at it. I =
>have Mec 1=20
>loaded with cards attached to what has always</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>been Card A for three years. Can =
>that change?=20
>Paris works fine with just that one. I'll try </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>all the others in that </FONT><FONT =
>face=3DArial=20
>size=3D2>position just to see though.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am close to starting from scratch and
=
>possibly=20
>doing the antipace thing. How could that be </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the evil that won't allow hardware to =
>show=20
>up?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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>
> href=3D"news:4696229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Have you tested each MEC =
>individually? I'd start=20
> there. Did you iuninstall/reinstall Paris yet?</FONT></DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
> style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
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> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
>wrote in=20
> message <A =
>href=3D"news:4695d5bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>...</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sorry to shout but this is driving
=
>me=20
> insane.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am working with a cloned drive =
>that used to=20
> work with</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2 Mecs and WC. </FONT><FONT =
>face=3DArial=20
> size=3D2>Now no matter what I do, I can not</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>get a second Mec to show up and =
>receive=20
> clock. It</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>doesn't matter if it's at the end =
>of the line=20
> or anywhere</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>else. It doesn't matter if =
>it's=20
> internally clocked or externally</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>clocked. I've changed Mecs, =
>clock cables,=20
> SCSI cables</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and no changes. I've even =
>tried a=20
> reinstall of Paris.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Same deal. </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I must be doing something totally =
>wrong for=20
> this to continue.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The only thing else I can think to
=
>try is=20
> swapping the last </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>EDS card with another or go down to
=
>four. =20
> Maybe it's</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>card 5? Or, triple check the =
>connectors=20
> between all the cards</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>again.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All EDS cards are up and running =
>and play audio=20
> with Paris effects.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All 5 cards share 3 IRQs with =
>nothing=20
> else.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What else is there?</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sadly,</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
>spam, and=20
> you?<BR><A=20
> =
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| Re: Paris hardware troubles won't stop. HELP!!! [message #88020 is a reply to message #88013] |
Thu, 12 July 2007 20:58 |
Tom Bruhl
Messages: 1368
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Hey Rod,
Ya I've been swapping things out to no end just to be sure.
I even had trouble getting it going with internal clock which ruled
out the Lucid in my mind.
The latest news is I couldn't get it to boot at all with other Mecs
being the master. In the process I smoked the original Mec A
because the SCSI cable was half in at start up. I heard a crack
and then the smell of burning chips. It still powers up but it's out
of the picture now. Loaded with modules too.
Now nothing gets it going except maybe the lowly 442. I'll try
that next. I have a local engineer coming over to see what=20
Paris can do. He's very well respected in these parts.
To bad I'm down for the count it seems.
Ass
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message =
news:4696c93b$1@linux...
Tom, have you done anything to rule out the possibility that it may be =
a funky
MEC word clock connection, or perhaps the Lucid clock is flakey. Or =
even
a bad mogami wordclock cable (I know that's a longshot, but anything's =
possible)
Just a thought.
Rod
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Deej,
>Ya, I've uninstalled, reinstalled Paris about five times total in the =
=3D
>last day and a half.
>I am close to starting from scratch and possibly doing the antipace =
=3D
>thing.
>I'm getting pretty good at it. I have Mec 1 loaded with cards =
attached
=3D
>to what has always
>been Card A for three years. Can that change? Paris works fine with =
just
=3D
>that one. I'll try=3D20
>all the others in that position just to see though.
>
>I am close to starting from scratch and possibly doing the antipace =
=3D
>thing. How could that be=3D20
>the evil that won't allow hardware to show up?
>Thanks,
>Tom
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message =3D
>news:4696229c$1@linux...
> Have you tested each MEC individually? I'd start there. Did you =3D
>iuninstall/reinstall Paris yet?
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =3D
>news:4695d5bf@linux...
> Sorry to shout but this is driving me insane.
>
> I am working with a cloned drive that used to work with
> 2 Mecs and WC. Now no matter what I do, I can not
> get a second Mec to show up and receive clock. It
> doesn't matter if it's at the end of the line or anywhere
> else. It doesn't matter if it's internally clocked or externally
> clocked. I've changed Mecs, clock cables, SCSI cables
> and no changes. I've even tried a reinstall of Paris.
> Same deal. =3D20
>
> I must be doing something totally wrong for this to continue.
> The only thing else I can think to try is swapping the last=3D20
> EDS card with another or go down to four. Maybe it's
> card 5? Or, triple check the connectors between all the cards
> again.
>
> All EDS cards are up and running and play audio with Paris =
effects.
> All 5 cards share 3 IRQs with nothing else.
> What else is there?
> Sadly,
> Tom
>
>
> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
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><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Deej,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Ya, I've uninstalled, =
reinstalled Paris
=3D
>about five=3D20
>times total in the last day and a half.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am close to starting from =
scratch and
=3D
>possibly=3D20
>doing the antipace thing.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm getting pretty good at it. I =
=3D
>have Mec 1=3D20
>loaded with cards attached to what has always</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>been Card A for three years. Can =
=3D
>that change?=3D20
>Paris works fine with just that one. I'll try </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>all the others in that =
</FONT><FONT =3D
>face=3D3DArial=3D20
>size=3D3D2>position just to see though.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am close to starting from =
scratch and
=3D
>possibly=3D20
>doing the antipace thing. How could that be </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>the evil that won't allow =
hardware to =3D
>show=3D20
>up?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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> <DIV>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message <A =
=3D
>
> href=3D3D"news:4696229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Have you tested each MEC =3D
>individually? I'd start=3D20
> there. Did you iuninstall/reinstall Paris yet?</FONT></DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3Dltr=3D20
> style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
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> <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
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>wrote in=3D20
> message <A =3D
>href=3D3D"news:4695d5bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>...</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Sorry to shout but this is =
driving
=3D
>me=3D20
> insane.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am working with a cloned =
drive =3D
>that used to=3D20
> work with</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>2 Mecs and WC. </FONT><FONT =
=3D
>face=3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D2>Now no matter what I do, I can not</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>get a second Mec to show up =
and =3D
>receive=3D20
> clock. It</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>doesn't matter if it's at =
the end =3D
>of the line=3D20
> or anywhere</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>else. It doesn't matter if =
=3D
>it's=3D20
> internally clocked or externally</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>clocked. I've changed Mecs, =
=3D
>clock cables,=3D20
> SCSI cables</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>and no changes. I've even =
=3D
>tried a=3D20
> reinstall of Paris.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Same deal. </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I must be doing something =
totally =3D
>wrong for=3D20
> this to continue.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>The only thing else I can =
think to
=3D
>try is=3D20
> swapping the last </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>EDS card with another or go =
down to
=3D
>four. =3D20
> Maybe it's</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>card 5? Or, triple check the =
=3D
>connectors=3D20
> between all the cards</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>again.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>All EDS cards are up and =
running =3D
>and play audio=3D20
> with Paris effects.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>All 5 cards share 3 IRQs =
with =3D
>nothing=3D20
> else.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>What else is =
there?</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Sadly,</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
=3D
>spam, and=3D20
> you?<BR><A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
fer=3D
>.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY>=3D
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hey Rod,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ya I've been swapping things out to no =
end just to=20
be sure.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I even had trouble getting it going =
with internal=20
clock which ruled</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>out the Lucid in my mind.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The latest news is I couldn't get it to =
boot at all=20
with other Mecs</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>being the master. In the process =
I smoked the=20
original Mec A</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>because the SCSI cable was half in at =
start=20
up. I heard a crack</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and then the smell of burning =
chips. It still=20
powers up but it's out</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>of the picture now. Loaded with =
modules=20
too.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Now nothing gets it going except maybe =
the lowly=20
442. I'll try</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>that next. I have a local =
engineer coming=20
over to see what </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Paris can do. He's very well =
respected in=20
these parts.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>To bad I'm down for the count it=20
seems.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ass</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
t;=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:4696c93b$1@linux">news:4696c93b$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Tom,=
have=20
you done anything to rule out the possibility that it may be a =
funky<BR>MEC=20
word clock connection, or perhaps the Lucid clock is flakey. Or =
even<BR>a bad=20
mogami wordclock cable (I know that's a longshot, but anything's=20
possible)<BR>Just a thought.<BR>Rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Deej,<BR>>Ya, I've uninstalled, =
reinstalled=20
Paris about five times total in the =3D<BR>>last day and a =
half.<BR>>I am=20
close to starting from scratch and possibly doing the antipace=20
=3D<BR>>thing.<BR>>I'm getting pretty good at it. I have =
Mec 1=20
loaded with cards attached<BR>=3D<BR>>to what has =
always<BR>>been Card A=20
for three years. Can that change? Paris works fine with =
just<BR>=3D<BR>>that=20
one. I'll try=3D20<BR>>all the others in that position just =
to see=20
though.<BR>><BR>>I am close to starting from scratch and =
possibly doing=20
the antipace =3D<BR>>thing. How could that be=3D20<BR>>the =
evil that=20
won't allow hardware to show =
up?<BR>>Thanks,<BR>>Tom<BR>> "DJ"=20
<animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message=20
=3D<BR>>news:4696229c$1@linux...<BR>> Have you tested each =
MEC=20
individually? I'd start there. Did you =3D<BR>>iuninstall/reinstall =
Paris=20
yet?<BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
in message=20
=3D<BR>>news:4695d5bf@linux...<BR>> Sorry to =
shout but=20
this is driving me insane.<BR>><BR>> I am =
working with=20
a cloned drive that used to work with<BR>> 2 Mecs =
and=20
WC. Now no matter what I do, I can not<BR>> =
get a=20
second Mec to show up and receive clock. =
It<BR>> =20
doesn't matter if it's at the end of the line or=20
anywhere<BR>> else. It doesn't matter if =
it's=20
internally clocked or externally<BR>> =
clocked. I've=20
changed Mecs, clock cables, SCSI cables<BR>> and =
no=20
changes. I've even tried a reinstall of =
Paris.<BR>> =20
Same deal. =3D20<BR>><BR>> I must be doing =
something=20
totally wrong for this to continue.<BR>> The only =
thing=20
else I can think to try is swapping the =
last=3D20<BR>> EDS=20
card with another or go down to four. Maybe=20
it's<BR>> card 5? Or, triple check the =
connectors=20
between all the cards<BR>> =20
again.<BR>><BR>> All EDS cards are up and =
running and=20
play audio with Paris effects.<BR>> All 5 cards =
share 3=20
IRQs with nothing else.<BR>> What else is=20
there?<BR>> Sadly,<BR>> =20
Tom<BR>><BR>><BR>> I choose Polesoft =
Lockspam to=20
fight spam, and you?<BR>> <A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
..html</A> =20
<BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD> <BR>><META=20
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D><BR>><BODY=20
bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
=
size=3D3D2>Deej,</FONT></DIV& ;gt; <BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Ya, I've uninstalled, reinstalled=20
Paris<BR>=3D<BR>>about five=3D20<BR>>times total in the last day =
and a=20
half.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>I am close to starting from scratch=20
and<BR>=3D<BR>>possibly=3D20<BR>>doing the antipace=20
thing.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>I'm getting pretty good at it. I =3D<BR>>have Mec=20
1=3D20<BR>>loaded with cards attached to what has=20
always</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>been Card A for three years. Can =3D<BR>>that=20
change?=3D20<BR>>Paris works fine with just that one. I'll try=20
</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>all the others in that </FONT><FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3DArial=3D20<BR>>size=3D3D2>position just to =
see=20
though.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>I am close to starting from scratch=20
and<BR>=3D<BR>>possibly=3D20<BR>>doing the antipace thing. How =
could that be=20
</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>the evil that won't allow hardware to=20
=
=3D<BR>>show=3D20<BR>>up?</FONT></DIV> <BR>><DIV&g=
t;<FONT=20
face=3D3DArial=20
=
size=3D3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV&a mp;gt; <BR>><DIV><FONT=
=20
face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV&g t; <BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
dir=3D3Dltr=3D20<BR>>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: =
5px;=20
MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; =
MARGIN-RIGHT:=20
0px"><BR>> <DIV>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot =
_=20
net> wrote in message <A =3D<BR>><BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:4696229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:46=
96229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>=
> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Have you tested each =
MEC=20
=3D<BR>>individually? I'd start=3D20<BR>> there. Did you=20
iuninstall/reinstall Paris yet?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3Dltr=3D20<BR>> =
style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;=20
PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 =
2px solid;=20
MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Tom =
Bruhl"=20
<<A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=20
=3D<BR>>wrote in=3D20<BR>> message <A=20
=3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:4695d5bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:4695d5=
bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=
p; =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Sorry to shout but =
this is=20
driving<BR>=3D<BR>>me=3D20<BR>> =20
insane.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am working with a =
cloned drive=20
=3D<BR>>that used to=3D20<BR>> work=20
with</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>2 Mecs and WC. </FONT><FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =
size=3D3D2>Now no matter=20
what I do, I can =
not</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>get a second Mec to =
show up and=20
=3D<BR>>receive=3D20<BR>> clock.=20
It</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>doesn't matter if it's at the end =
=3D<BR>>of the=20
line=3D20<BR>> or=20
anywhere</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>else. It doesn't =
matter if=20
=3D<BR>>it's=3D20<BR>> internally clocked or=20
externally</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>clocked. I've changed =
Mecs,=20
=3D<BR>>clock cables,=3D20<BR>> SCSI=20
cables</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>and no changes. I've even =
=3D<BR>>tried=20
a=3D20<BR>> reinstall of=20
Paris.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Same deal.=20
</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I must be doing =
something totally=20
=3D<BR>>wrong for=3D20<BR>> this to=20
continue.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>The only thing else I =
can think=20
to<BR>=3D<BR>>try is=3D20<BR>> swapping the =
last=20
</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>EDS card with another or go down =
to<BR>=3D<BR>>four.=20
=3D20<BR>> Maybe=20
it's</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>card 5? Or, triple check the=20
=3D<BR>>connectors=3D20<BR>> between all the=20
cards</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial=20
=
size=3D3D2>again.</FONT></DIV&am p;gt; <BR>> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>All EDS cards are up and running =3D<BR>>and play=20
audio=3D20<BR>> with Paris=20
effects.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>All 5 cards share 3 =
IRQs with=20
=3D<BR>>nothing=3D20<BR>> =20
else.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>What else is=20
there?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial=20
=
size=3D3D2>Sadly,</FONT></DIV&am p;gt; <BR>> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV&g t; <BR>> =20
<DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose =
Polesoft Lockspam=20
to fight =3D<BR>>spam, and=3D20<BR>> =20
you?<BR><A=3D20<BR>> =
=3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=
>=3D<BR>>.html</A>=20
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| Re: Paris hardware troubles won't stop. HELP!!! [message #88024 is a reply to message #88020] |
Thu, 12 July 2007 22:08 |
Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
Registered: September 2005
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That kinda totally sucks. Sorry.
rod
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Hey Rod,
>Ya I've been swapping things out to no end just to be sure.
>I even had trouble getting it going with internal clock which ruled
>out the Lucid in my mind.
>
>The latest news is I couldn't get it to boot at all with other Mecs
>being the master. In the process I smoked the original Mec A
>because the SCSI cable was half in at start up. I heard a crack
>and then the smell of burning chips. It still powers up but it's out
>of the picture now. Loaded with modules too.
>
>Now nothing gets it going except maybe the lowly 442. I'll try
>that next. I have a local engineer coming over to see what=20
>Paris can do. He's very well respected in these parts.
>To bad I'm down for the count it seems.
>Ass
>
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message =
>news:4696c93b$1@linux...
>
> Tom, have you done anything to rule out the possibility that it may be
=
>a funky
> MEC word clock connection, or perhaps the Lucid clock is flakey. Or =
>even
> a bad mogami wordclock cable (I know that's a longshot, but anything's
=
>possible)
> Just a thought.
> Rod
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Deej,
> >Ya, I've uninstalled, reinstalled Paris about five times total in the
=
>=3D
> >last day and a half.
> >I am close to starting from scratch and possibly doing the antipace =
>=3D
> >thing.
> >I'm getting pretty good at it. I have Mec 1 loaded with cards =
>attached
> =3D
> >to what has always
> >been Card A for three years. Can that change? Paris works fine with =
>just
> =3D
> >that one. I'll try=3D20
> >all the others in that position just to see though.
> >
> >I am close to starting from scratch and possibly doing the antipace =
>=3D
> >thing. How could that be=3D20
> >the evil that won't allow hardware to show up?
> >Thanks,
> >Tom
> > "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message =3D
> >news:4696229c$1@linux...
> > Have you tested each MEC individually? I'd start there. Did you =3D
> >iuninstall/reinstall Paris yet?
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =3D
> >news:4695d5bf@linux...
> > Sorry to shout but this is driving me insane.
> >
> > I am working with a cloned drive that used to work with
> > 2 Mecs and WC. Now no matter what I do, I can not
> > get a second Mec to show up and receive clock. It
> > doesn't matter if it's at the end of the line or anywhere
> > else. It doesn't matter if it's internally clocked or externally
> > clocked. I've changed Mecs, clock cables, SCSI cables
> > and no changes. I've even tried a reinstall of Paris.
> > Same deal. =3D20
> >
> > I must be doing something totally wrong for this to continue.
> > The only thing else I can think to try is swapping the last=3D20
> > EDS card with another or go down to four. Maybe it's
> > card 5? Or, triple check the connectors between all the cards
> > again.
> >
> > All EDS cards are up and running and play audio with Paris =
>effects.
> > All 5 cards share 3 IRQs with nothing else.
> > What else is there?
> > Sadly,
> > Tom
> >
> >
> > I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> > http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> ><HTML><HEAD>
> ><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
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> ><STYLE></STYLE>
> ></HEAD>
> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Deej,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Ya, I've uninstalled, =
>reinstalled Paris
> =3D
> >about five=3D20
> >times total in the last day and a half.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am close to starting from =
>scratch and
> =3D
> >possibly=3D20
> >doing the antipace thing.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm getting pretty good at it. I
=
>=3D
> >have Mec 1=3D20
> >loaded with cards attached to what has always</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>been Card A for three years. Can
=
>=3D
> >that change?=3D20
> >Paris works fine with just that one. I'll try </FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>all the others in that =
></FONT><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3DArial=3D20
> >size=3D3D2>position just to see though.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am close to starting from =
>scratch and
> =3D
> >possibly=3D20
> >doing the antipace thing. How could that be </FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>the evil that won't allow =
>hardware to =3D
> >show=3D20
> >up?</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> ><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3Dltr=3D20
> >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>=3D
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message <A =
>=3D
> >
> > href=3D3D"news:4696229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Have you tested each MEC =3D
> >individually? I'd start=3D20
> > there. Did you iuninstall/reinstall Paris yet?</FONT></DIV>
> > <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3Dltr=3D20
> > style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
=
>=3D
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> > href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
>=3D
> >wrote in=3D20
> > message <A =3D
> >href=3D3D"news:4695d5bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Sorry to shout but this is =
>driving
> =3D
> >me=3D20
> > insane.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am working with a cloned =
>drive =3D
> >that used to=3D20
> > work with</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>2 Mecs and WC. </FONT><FONT
=
>=3D
> >face=3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D2>Now no matter what I do, I can not</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>get a second Mec to show up
=
>and =3D
> >receive=3D20
> > clock. It</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>doesn't matter if it's at =
>the end =3D
> >of the line=3D20
> > or anywhere</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>else. It doesn't matter if =
>=3D
> >it's=3D20
> > internally clocked or externally</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>clocked. I've changed Mecs,
=
>=3D
> >clock cables,=3D20
> > SCSI cables</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>and no changes. I've even =
>=3D
> >tried a=3D20
> > reinstall of Paris.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Same deal. </FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I must be doing something =
>totally =3D
> >wrong for=3D20
> > this to continue.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>The only thing else I can =
>think to
> =3D
> >try is=3D20
> > swapping the last </FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>EDS card with another or go
=
>down to
> =3D
> >four. =3D20
> > Maybe it's</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>card 5? Or, triple check the
=
>=3D
> >connectors=3D20
> > between all the cards</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>again.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>All EDS cards are up and =
>running =3D
> >and play audio=3D20
> > with Paris effects.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>All 5 cards share 3 IRQs =
>with =3D
> >nothing=3D20
> > else.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>What else is =
>there?</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Sadly,</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight
=
>=3D
> >spam, and=3D20
> > you?<BR><A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
>fer=3D
> >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY>=3D
> ></HTML>
> >
> >
>
>
><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
><HTML><HEAD>
><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR>
><STYLE></STYLE>
></HEAD>
><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hey Rod,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ya I've been swapping things out to no
=
>end just to=20
>be sure.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I even had trouble getting it going =
>with internal=20
>clock which ruled</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>out the Lucid in my mind.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The latest news is I couldn't get it to
=
>boot at all=20
>with other Mecs</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>being the master. In the process =
>I smoked the=20
>original Mec A</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>because the SCSI cable was half in at =
>start=20
>up. I heard a crack</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and then the smell of burning =
>chips. It still=20
>powers up but it's out</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>of the picture now. Loaded with =
>modules=20
>too.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Now nothing gets it going except maybe
=
>the lowly=20
>442. I'll try</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>that next. I have a local =
>engineer coming=20
>over to see what </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Paris can do. He's very well =
>respected in=20
>these parts.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>To bad I'm down for the count it=20
>seems.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ass</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
>t;=20
> wrote in message <A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:4696c93b$1@linux">news:4696c93b$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Tom,=
> have=20
> you done anything to rule out the possibility that it may be a =
>funky<BR>MEC=20
> word clock connection, or perhaps the Lucid clock is flakey. Or =
>even<BR>a bad=20
> mogami wordclock cable (I know that's a longshot, but anything's=20
> possible)<BR>Just a thought.<BR>Rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Deej,<BR>>Ya, I've uninstalled, =
>reinstalled=20
> Paris about five times total in the =3D<BR>>last day and a =
>half.<BR>>I am=20
> close to starting from scratch and possibly doing the antipace=20
> =3D<BR>>thing.<BR>>I'm getting pretty good at it. I have =
>Mec 1=20
> loaded with cards attached<BR>=3D<BR>>to what has =
>always<BR>>been Card A=20
> for three years. Can that change? Paris works fine with =
>just<BR>=3D<BR>>that=20
> one. I'll try=3D20<BR>>all the others in that position just =
>to see=20
> though.<BR>><BR>>I am close to starting from scratch and =
>possibly doing=20
> the antipace =3D<BR>>thing. How could that be=3D20<BR>>the =
>evil that=20
> won't allow hardware to show =
>up?<BR>>Thanks,<BR>>Tom<BR>> "DJ"=20
> <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message=20
> =3D<BR>>news:4696229c$1@linux...<BR>> Have you tested each =
>MEC=20
> individually? I'd start there. Did you =3D<BR>>iuninstall/reinstall =
>Paris=20
> yet?<BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
>in message=20
> =3D<BR>>news:4695d5bf@linux...<BR>> Sorry to =
>shout but=20
> this is driving me insane.<BR>><BR>> I am =
>working with=20
> a cloned drive that used to work with<BR>> 2 Mecs =
>and=20
> WC. Now no matter what I do, I can not<BR>> =
>get a=20
> second Mec to show up and receive clock. =
>It<BR>> =20
> doesn't matter if it's at the end of the line or=20
> anywhere<BR>> else. It doesn't matter if =
>it's=20
> internally clocked or externally<BR>> =
>clocked. I've=20
> changed Mecs, clock cables, SCSI cables<BR>> and =
>no=20
> changes. I've even tried a reinstall of =
>Paris.<BR>> =20
> Same deal. =3D20<BR>><BR>> I must be doing =
>something=20
> totally wrong for this to continue.<BR>> The only =
>thing=20
> else I can think to try is swapping the =
>last=3D20<BR>> EDS=20
> card with another or go down to four. Maybe=20
> it's<BR>> card 5? Or, triple check the =
>connectors=20
> between all the cards<BR>> =20
> again.<BR>><BR>> All EDS cards are up and =
>running and=20
> play audio with Paris effects.<BR>> All 5 cards =
>share 3=20
> IRQs with nothing else.<BR>> What else is=20
> there?<BR>> Sadly,<BR>> =20
> Tom<BR>><BR>><BR>> I choose Polesoft =
>Lockspam to=20
> fight spam, and you?<BR>> <A=20
> =
>href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>.html</A> =20
> <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
> Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=20
> http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
> =3D<BR>>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
>content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
> 6.00.2800.1400"=20
> =
>name=3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=
>D><BR>><BODY=20
> bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
> =
>size=3D3D2>Deej,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Ya, I've uninstalled, reinstalled=20
> Paris<BR>=3D<BR>>about five=3D20<BR>>times total in the last day =
>and a=20
> half.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>I am close to starting from scratch=20
> and<BR>=3D<BR>>possibly=3D20<BR>>doing the antipace=20
> thing.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>I'm getting pretty good at it. I =3D<BR>>have Mec=20
> 1=3D20<BR>>loaded with cards attached to what has=20
> always</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>been Card A for three years. Can =3D<BR>>that=20
> change?=3D20<BR>>Paris works fine with just that one. I'll try=20
> </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>all the others in that </FONT><FONT=20
> =3D<BR>>face=3D3DArial=3D20<BR>>size=3D3D2>position just to =
>see=20
> though.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>I am close to starting from scratch=20
> and<BR>=3D<BR>>possibly=3D20<BR>>doing the antipace thing. How =
>could that be=20
> </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>the evil that won't allow hardware to=20
> =
>=3D<BR>>show=3D20<BR>>up?</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV&g=
>t;<FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial=20
> =
>size=3D3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=
>=20
> face=3D3DArial =
>size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
> dir=3D3Dltr=3D20<BR>>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: =
>5px;=20
> MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; =
>MARGIN-RIGHT:=20
> 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot =
>_=20
> net> wrote in message <A =3D<BR>><BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'news:4696229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:46=
>96229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>=
>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Have you tested each =
>MEC=20
> =3D<BR>>individually? I'd start=3D20<BR>> there. Did you=20
> iuninstall/reinstall Paris yet?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
>
> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3Dltr=3D20<BR>> =
>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;=20
> PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 =
>2px solid;=20
> MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Tom =
>Bruhl"=20
> <<A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=20
> =3D<BR>>wrote in=3D20<BR>> message <A=20
> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'news:4695d5bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:4695d5=
>bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=
>p; =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Sorry to shout but =
>this is=20
> driving<BR>=3D<BR>>me=3D20<BR>> =20
> insane.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> =
></DIV><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am working with a =
>cloned drive=20
> =3D<BR>>that used to=3D20<BR>> work=20
> with</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>2 Mecs and WC. </FONT><FONT=20
> =3D<BR>>face=3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =
>size=3D3D2>Now no matter=20
> what I do, I can =
>not</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>get a second Mec to =
>show up and=20
> =3D<BR>>receive=3D20<BR>> clock.=20
> It</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>doesn't matter if it's at the end =
>=3D<BR>>of the=20
> line=3D20<BR>> or=20
> anywhere</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>else. It doesn't =
>matter if=20
> =3D<BR>>it's=3D20<BR>> internally clocked or=20
> externally</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>clocked. I've changed =
>Mecs,=20
> =3D<BR>>clock cables,=3D20<BR>> SCSI=20
> cables</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>and no changes. I've even =
>=3D<BR>>tried=20
> a=3D20<BR>> reinstall of=20
> Paris.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Same deal.=20
> </FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> =
></DIV><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I must be doing =
>something totally=20
> =3D<BR>>wrong for=3D20<BR>> this to=20
> continue.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>The only thing else I =
>can think=20
> to<BR>=3D<BR>>try is=3D20<BR>> swapping the =
>last=20
> </FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>EDS card with another or go down =
>to<BR>=3D<BR>>four.=20
> =3D20<BR>> Maybe=20
> it's</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>card 5? Or, triple check the=20
> =3D<BR>>connectors=3D20<BR>> between all the=20
> cards</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial=20
> =
>size=3D3D2>again.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
> </DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>All EDS cards are up and running =3D<BR>>and play=20
> audio=3D20<BR>> with Paris=20
> effects.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>All 5 cards share 3 =
>IRQs with=20
> =3D<BR>>nothing=3D20<BR>> =20
> else.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>What else is=20
> there?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial=20
> =
>size=3D3D2>Sadly,</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose =
>Polesoft Lockspam=20
> to fight =3D<BR>>spam, and=3D20<BR>> =20
> you?<BR><A=3D20<BR>> =
>=3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=
>>=3D<BR>>.html</A>=20
> =
></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY&=
>gt;=3D<BR>></HTML><BR>><BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY> </HTML=
>>
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| Re: Paris hardware troubles won't stop. HELP!!! [message #88027 is a reply to message #88024] |
Thu, 12 July 2007 23:10 |
Tom Bruhl
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
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Well here's what is happening.
I looked very closely at the pins on the scsi cables and noticed
a slightly bent one or two on almost half of them (5). I think it's
from being careless about pushing them in. I straightened them
perfectly and yet still no luck with booting Paris. "No interface =
attached
to the Master Card" is the message. I'm only using one mec to test.
I also tried the 442. Once in a while the Magma wouldn't turn on with =
the
442 attached. I think that is because of the bent pins. That's good of
the Magma. I've tried all five cards, removed the A card and swapped it =
with another still no luck.=20
I'm lost in this quagmire now. I'm not even pissed about the busted mec
at this point. I want an answer to what is going on. The default =
project=20
is looking for external word clock so that's my only choice although I
have tried it with no Lucid attached with the same results.
I think I'll call Edmund.
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.r.com> wrote in message =
news:469708c8$1@linux...
That kinda totally sucks. Sorry.
rod
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Hey Rod,
>Ya I've been swapping things out to no end just to be sure.
>I even had trouble getting it going with internal clock which ruled
>out the Lucid in my mind.
>
>The latest news is I couldn't get it to boot at all with other Mecs
>being the master. In the process I smoked the original Mec A
>because the SCSI cable was half in at start up. I heard a crack
>and then the smell of burning chips. It still powers up but it's out
>of the picture now. Loaded with modules too.
>
>Now nothing gets it going except maybe the lowly 442. I'll try
>that next. I have a local engineer coming over to see what=3D20
>Paris can do. He's very well respected in these parts.
>To bad I'm down for the count it seems.
>Ass
>
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message =3D
>news:4696c93b$1@linux...
>
> Tom, have you done anything to rule out the possibility that it may =
be
=3D
>a funky
> MEC word clock connection, or perhaps the Lucid clock is flakey. Or =
=3D
>even
> a bad mogami wordclock cable (I know that's a longshot, but =
anything's
=3D
>possible)
> Just a thought.
> Rod
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Deej,
> >Ya, I've uninstalled, reinstalled Paris about five times total in =
the
=3D
>=3D3D
> >last day and a half.
> >I am close to starting from scratch and possibly doing the =
antipace =3D
>=3D3D
> >thing.
> >I'm getting pretty good at it. I have Mec 1 loaded with cards =3D
>attached
> =3D3D
> >to what has always
> >been Card A for three years. Can that change? Paris works fine =
with =3D
>just
> =3D3D
> >that one. I'll try=3D3D20
> >all the others in that position just to see though.
> >
> >I am close to starting from scratch and possibly doing the =
antipace =3D
>=3D3D
> >thing. How could that be=3D3D20
> >the evil that won't allow hardware to show up?
> >Thanks,
> >Tom
> > "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message =3D3D
> >news:4696229c$1@linux...
> > Have you tested each MEC individually? I'd start there. Did you =
=3D3D
> >iuninstall/reinstall Paris yet?
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =3D3D
> >news:4695d5bf@linux...
> > Sorry to shout but this is driving me insane.
> >
> > I am working with a cloned drive that used to work with
> > 2 Mecs and WC. Now no matter what I do, I can not
> > get a second Mec to show up and receive clock. It
> > doesn't matter if it's at the end of the line or anywhere
> > else. It doesn't matter if it's internally clocked or =
externally
> > clocked. I've changed Mecs, clock cables, SCSI cables
> > and no changes. I've even tried a reinstall of Paris.
> > Same deal. =3D3D20
> >
> > I must be doing something totally wrong for this to continue.
> > The only thing else I can think to try is swapping the =
last=3D3D20
> > EDS card with another or go down to four. Maybe it's
> > card 5? Or, triple check the connectors between all the cards
> > again.
> >
> > All EDS cards are up and running and play audio with Paris =3D
>effects.
> > All 5 cards share 3 IRQs with nothing else.
> > What else is there?
> > Sadly,
> > Tom
> >
> >
> > I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> > http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =3D20
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
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> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Deej,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Ya, I've uninstalled, =3D
>reinstalled Paris
> =3D3D
> >about five=3D3D20
> >times total in the last day and a half.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I am close to starting =
from =3D
>scratch and
> =3D3D
> >possibly=3D3D20
> >doing the antipace thing.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'm getting pretty good =
at it. I
=3D
>=3D3D
> >have Mec 1=3D3D20
> >loaded with cards attached to what has always</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>been Card A for three =
years. Can
=3D
>=3D3D
> >that change?=3D3D20
> >Paris works fine with just that one. I'll try </FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>all the others in that =
=3D
></FONT><FONT =3D3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> >size=3D3D3D2>position just to see though.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I am close to starting =
from =3D
>scratch and
> =3D3D
> >possibly=3D3D20
> >doing the antipace thing. How could that be </FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>the evil that won't allow =
=3D
>hardware to =3D3D
> >show=3D3D20
> >up?</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> ><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20
> >style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px; =3D
>=3D3D
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message <A =
=3D
>=3D3D
> >
> > =
href=3D3D3D"news:4696229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Have you tested each =
MEC =3D3D
> >individually? I'd start=3D3D20
> > there. Did you iuninstall/reinstall Paris yet?</FONT></DIV>
> > <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20
> > style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px;
=3D
>=3D3D
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D20
> > =
href=3D3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =3D
>=3D3D
> >wrote in=3D3D20
> > message <A =3D3D
> >href=3D3D3D"news:4695d5bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Sorry to shout but =
this is =3D
>driving
> =3D3D
> >me=3D3D20
> > insane.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I am working with a =
cloned =3D
>drive =3D3D
> >that used to=3D3D20
> > work with</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>2 Mecs and WC. =
</FONT><FONT
=3D
>=3D3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>Now no matter what I do, I can not</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>get a second Mec to =
show up
=3D
>and =3D3D
> >receive=3D3D20
> > clock. It</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>doesn't matter if =
it's at =3D
>the end =3D3D
> >of the line=3D3D20
> > or anywhere</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>else. It doesn't =
matter if =3D
>=3D3D
> >it's=3D3D20
> > internally clocked or externally</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>clocked. I've changed =
Mecs,
=3D
>=3D3D
> >clock cables,=3D3D20
> > SCSI cables</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>and no changes. I've =
even =3D
>=3D3D
> >tried a=3D3D20
> > reinstall of Paris.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Same deal. =
</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I must be doing =
something =3D
>totally =3D3D
> >wrong for=3D3D20
> > this to continue.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>The only thing else I =
can =3D
>think to
> =3D3D
> >try is=3D3D20
> > swapping the last </FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>EDS card with another =
or go
=3D
>down to
> =3D3D
> >four. =3D3D20
> > Maybe it's</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>card 5? Or, triple =
check the
=3D
>=3D3D
> >connectors=3D3D20
> > between all the cards</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>again.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>All EDS cards are up =
and =3D
>running =3D3D
> >and play audio=3D3D20
> > with Paris effects.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>All 5 cards share 3 =
IRQs =3D
>with =3D3D
> >nothing=3D3D20
> > else.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>What else is =3D
>there?</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Sadly,</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to =
fight
=3D
>=3D3D
> >spam, and=3D3D20
> > you?<BR><A=3D3D20
> > =3D3D
> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com=
/re=3D
>fer=3D3D
> >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY>=3D3D
> ></HTML>
> >
> >
>
>
><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
><HTML><HEAD>
><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
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><STYLE></STYLE>
></HEAD>
><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hey Rod,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Ya I've been swapping things out =
to no
=3D
>end just to=3D20
>be sure.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I even had trouble getting it =
going =3D
>with internal=3D20
>clock which ruled</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>out the Lucid in my =
mind.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>The latest news is I couldn't =
get it to
=3D
>boot at all=3D20
>with other Mecs</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>being the master. In the process =
=3D
>I smoked the=3D20
>original Mec A</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>because the SCSI cable was half =
in at =3D
>start=3D20
>up. I heard a crack</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>and then the smell of burning =
=3D
>chips. It still=3D20
>powers up but it's out</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>of the picture now. Loaded with =
=3D
>modules=3D20
>too.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Now nothing gets it going except =
maybe
=3D
>the lowly=3D20
>442. I'll try</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>that next. I have a local =3D
>engineer coming=3D20
>over to see what </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Paris can do. He's very well =3D
>respected in=3D20
>these parts.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>To bad I'm down for the count =
it=3D20
>seems.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Ass</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
=3D
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A=
>&g=3D
>t;=3D20
> wrote in message <A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"news:4696c93b$1@linux">news:4696c93b$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>T=
om,=3D
> have=3D20
> you done anything to rule out the possibility that it may be a =3D
>funky<BR>MEC=3D20
> word clock connection, or perhaps the Lucid clock is flakey. Or =3D
>even<BR>a bad=3D20
> mogami wordclock cable (I know that's a longshot, but =
anything's=3D20
> possible)<BR>Just a thought.<BR>Rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20
> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Deej,<BR>>Ya, I've uninstalled, =3D
>reinstalled=3D20
> Paris about five times total in the =3D3D<BR>>last day and a =3D
>half.<BR>>I am=3D20
> close to starting from scratch and possibly doing the antipace=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>thing.<BR>>I'm getting pretty good at it. I have =3D
>Mec 1=3D20
> loaded with cards attached<BR>=3D3D<BR>>to what has =3D
>always<BR>>been Card A=3D20
> for three years. Can that change? Paris works fine with =3D
>just<BR>=3D3D<BR>>that=3D20
> one. I'll try=3D3D20<BR>>all the others in that position just =3D
>to see=3D20
> though.<BR>><BR>>I am close to starting from scratch and =3D
>possibly doing=3D20
> the antipace =3D3D<BR>>thing. How could that be=3D3D20<BR>>the =3D
>evil that=3D20
> won't allow hardware to show =3D
>up?<BR>>Thanks,<BR>>Tom<BR>> "DJ"=3D20
> <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>news:4696229c$1@linux...<BR>> Have you tested each =3D
>MEC=3D20
> individually? I'd start there. Did you =
=3D3D<BR>>iuninstall/reinstall =3D
>Paris=3D20
> yet?<BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote =3D
>in message=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>news:4695d5bf@linux...<BR>> Sorry to =3D
>shout but=3D20
> this is driving me insane.<BR>><BR>> I am =3D
>working with=3D20
> a cloned drive that used to work with<BR>> 2 Mecs =3D
>and=3D20
> WC. Now no matter what I do, I can not<BR>> =3D
>get a=3D20
> second Mec to show up and receive clock. =3D
>It<BR>> =3D20
> doesn't matter if it's at the end of the line or=3D20
> anywhere<BR>> else. It doesn't matter if =3D
>it's=3D20
> internally clocked or externally<BR>> =3D
>clocked. I've=3D20
> changed Mecs, clock cables, SCSI cables<BR>> and =3D
>no=3D20
> changes. I've even tried a reinstall of =3D
>Paris.<BR>> =3D20
> Same deal. =3D3D20<BR>><BR>> I must be doing =3D
>something=3D20
> totally wrong for this to continue.<BR>> The only =3D
>thing=3D20
> else I can think to try is swapping the =3D
>last=3D3D20<BR>> EDS=3D20
> card with another or go down to four. Maybe=3D20
> it's<BR>> card 5? Or, triple check the =3D
>connectors=3D20
> between all the cards<BR>> =3D20
> again.<BR>><BR>> All EDS cards are up and =3D
>running and=3D20
> play audio with Paris effects.<BR>> All 5 cards =3D
>share 3=3D20
> IRQs with nothing else.<BR>> What else is=3D20
> there?<BR>> Sadly,<BR>> =3D20
> Tom<BR>><BR>><BR>> I choose Polesoft =3D
>Lockspam to=3D20
> fight spam, and you?<BR>> <A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
fer=3D
>.html</A> =3D20
> <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D20
> Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=3D20
> http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html;=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =3D
>content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20
> 6.00.2800.1400"=3D20
> =3D
>name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=3D
>D><BR>><BODY=3D20
> bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> =3D
>size=3D3D3D2>Deej,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Ya, I've uninstalled, =
reinstalled=3D20
> Paris<BR>=3D3D<BR>>about five=3D3D20<BR>>times total in the last =
day =3D
>and a=3D20
> half.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>I am close to starting from scratch=3D20
> and<BR>=3D3D<BR>>possibly=3D3D20<BR>>doing the antipace=3D20
> thing.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>I'm getting pretty good at it. I =3D3D<BR>>have =
Mec=3D20
> 1=3D3D20<BR>>loaded with cards attached to what has=3D20
> always</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>been Card A for three years. Can =3D3D<BR>>that=3D20
> change?=3D3D20<BR>>Paris works fine with just that one. I'll =
try=3D20
> </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>all the others in that </FONT><FONT=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>>size=3D3D3D2>position just to =
=3D
>see=3D20
> though.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>I am close to starting from scratch=3D20
> and<BR>=3D3D<BR>>possibly=3D3D20<BR>>doing the antipace thing. How =
=3D
>could that be=3D20
> </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>the evil that won't allow hardware to=3D20
> =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>show=3D3D20<BR>>up?</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV&g=3D
>t;<FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> =3D
>size=3D3D3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D
>=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial =3D
>size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; =
PADDING-LEFT: =3D
>5px;=3D20
> MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; =3D
>MARGIN-RIGHT:=3D20
> 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot =3D
>_=3D20
> net> wrote in message <A =3D3D<BR>><BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D'news:4696229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1@linux</A>...</DIV'>news=
:46=3D
>96229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>=3D
>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Have you tested each =3D
>MEC=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>individually? I'd start=3D3D20<BR>> there. Did you=3D20
> iuninstall/reinstall Paris yet?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
>
> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;=3D20
> PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 =
=3D
>2px solid;=3D20
> MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Tom =3D
>Bruhl"=3D20
> <<A=3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arp=
egi=3D
>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>wrote in=3D3D20<BR>> message <A=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D'news:4695d5bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:469=
5d5=3D
>bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=3D
>p; =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Sorry to shout but =3D
>this is=3D20
> driving<BR>=3D3D<BR>>me=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> insane.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D
></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I am working with a =3D
>cloned drive=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>that used to=3D3D20<BR>> work=3D20
> with</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>2 Mecs and WC. </FONT><FONT=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>size=3D3D3D2>Now no matter=3D20
> what I do, I can =3D
>not</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>get a second Mec to =3D
>show up and=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>receive=3D3D20<BR>> clock.=3D20
> It</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>doesn't matter if it's at the end =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>of the=3D20
> line=3D3D20<BR>> or=3D20
> anywhere</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>else. It doesn't =3D
>matter if=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>it's=3D3D20<BR>> internally clocked or=3D20
> externally</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>clocked. I've changed =3D
>Mecs,=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>clock cables,=3D3D20<BR>> SCSI=3D20
> cables</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>and no changes. I've even =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>tried=3D20
> a=3D3D20<BR>> reinstall of=3D20
> Paris.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Same deal.=3D20
> </FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D
></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I must be doing =3D
>something totally=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>wrong for=3D3D20<BR>> this to=3D20
> continue.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>The only thing else I =3D
>can think=3D20
> to<BR>=3D3D<BR>>try is=3D3D20<BR>> swapping the =3D
>last=3D20
> </FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>EDS card with another or go down =3D
>to<BR>=3D3D<BR>>four.=3D20
> =3D3D20<BR>> Maybe=3D20
> it's</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>card 5? Or, triple check the=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>connectors=3D3D20<BR>> between all the=3D20
> cards</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> =3D
>size=3D3D3D2>again.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20
> </DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>All EDS cards are up and running =3D3D<BR>>and =
play=3D20
> audio=3D3D20<BR>> with Paris=3D20
> effects.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>All 5 cards share 3 =3D
>IRQs with=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>nothing=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> else.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>What else is=3D20
> there?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> =3D
>size=3D3D3D2>Sadly,</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose =3D
>Polesoft Lockspam=3D20
> to fight =3D3D<BR>>spam, and=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> you?<BR><A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> =3D
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>href=3D3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
fer=3D
=
>'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=3D=
>>=3D3D<BR>>.html</A>=3D20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Well here's what is =
happening.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I looked very closely at the pins on =
the scsi=20
cables and noticed</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>a slightly bent one or two on almost =
half of them=20
(5). I think it's</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>from being careless about pushing them =
in. I=20
straightened them</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>perfectly and yet still no luck with =
booting=20
Paris. "No interface attached</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>to the Master Card" is the =
message. I'm only=20
using one mec to test.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I also tried the 442. Once in a =
while the=20
Magma wouldn't turn on with the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>442 attached. I think that is =
because of the=20
bent pins. That's good of</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the Magma. </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>I've tried all five cards, removed the A card and swapped it=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>with another </FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>still=20
no luck. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm lost in this quagmire now. =
I'm not even=20
pissed about the busted mec</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>at this point. I want an answer =
to what is=20
going on. The default project </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>is looking for external word clock so =
that's my=20
only choice although I</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>have tried it with no Lucid attached =
with the same=20
results.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think I'll call Edmund.</FONT></DIV>
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style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
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<DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.r.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.r.com</A>>=
wrote=20
in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:469708c8$1@linux">news:469708c8$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>That=
kinda=20
totally sucks. Sorry.<BR>rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Hey Rod,<BR>>Ya I've been swapping =
things out=20
to no end just to be sure.<BR>>I even had trouble getting it going =
with=20
internal clock which ruled<BR>>out the Lucid in my =
mind.<BR>><BR>>The=20
latest news is I couldn't get it to boot at all with other =
Mecs<BR>>being=20
the master. In the process I smoked the original Mec =
A<BR>>because=20
the SCSI cable was half in at start up. I heard a =
crack<BR>>and then=20
the smell of burning chips. It still powers up but it's =
out<BR>>of=20
the picture now. Loaded with modules too.<BR>><BR>>Now =
nothing=20
gets it going except maybe the lowly 442. I'll try<BR>>that=20
next. I have a local engineer coming over to see =
what=3D20<BR>>Paris=20
can do. He's very well respected in these parts.<BR>>To bad =
I'm down=20
for the count it seems.<BR>>Ass<BR>><BR>> "Rod Lincoln" =
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
t;=20
wrote in message =
=3D<BR>>news:4696c93b$1@linux...<BR>><BR>> Tom,=20
have you done anything to rule out the possibility that it may=20
be<BR>=3D<BR>>a funky<BR>> MEC word clock connection, or =
perhaps the=20
Lucid clock is flakey. Or =3D<BR>>even<BR>> a bad mogami =
wordclock=20
cable (I know that's a longshot, but=20
anything's<BR>=3D<BR>>possible)<BR>> Just a =
thought.<BR>> =20
Rod<BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> =20
>Deej,<BR>> >Ya, I've uninstalled, reinstalled Paris =
about five=20
times total in the<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >last day and =
a=20
half.<BR>> >I am close to starting from scratch and =
possibly doing=20
the antipace =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >thing.<BR>> =
>I'm=20
getting pretty good at it. I have Mec 1 loaded with cards=20
=3D<BR>>attached<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> >to what has=20
always<BR>> >been Card A for three years. Can that change? =
Paris=20
works fine with =3D<BR>>just<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =
>that=20
one. I'll try=3D3D20<BR>> >all the others in that =
position=20
just to see though.<BR>> ><BR>> >I am close to =
starting from scratch and possibly doing the antipace=20
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >thing. How could that=20
be=3D3D20<BR>> >the evil that won't allow hardware to show =
up?<BR>> >Thanks,<BR>> >Tom<BR>> =
> =20
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message=20
=3D3D<BR>> >news:4696229c$1@linux...<BR>> =
> Have=20
you tested each MEC individually? I'd start there. Did you =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>iuninstall/reinstall Paris yet?<BR>> =
> "Tom=20
Bruhl" <<A =
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote in message =3D3D<BR>> =
>news:4695d5bf@linux...<BR>> =20
> Sorry to shout but this is driving me=20
insane.<BR>> ><BR>> > I am =
working=20
with a cloned drive that used to work with<BR>> =20
> 2 Mecs and WC. Now no matter what I do, I =
can=20
not<BR>> > get a second Mec to show up =
and=20
receive clock. It<BR>> > doesn't =
matter if=20
it's at the end of the line or anywhere<BR>> =
> =20
else. It doesn't matter if it's internally clocked or=20
externally<BR>> > clocked. I've =
changed=20
Mecs, clock cables, SCSI cables<BR>> > =
and no=20
changes. I've even tried a reinstall of Paris.<BR>> =20
> Same deal. =3D3D20<BR>> =
><BR>> =20
> I must be doing something totally wrong for =
this to=20
continue.<BR>> > The only thing else I =
can think=20
to try is swapping the last=3D3D20<BR>> =
> EDS card=20
with another or go down to four. Maybe it's<BR>> =20
> card 5? Or, triple check the connectors =
between=20
all the cards<BR>> > =
again.<BR>> =20
><BR>> > All EDS cards are up and =
running and=20
play audio with Paris =3D<BR>>effects.<BR>> =
> =20
All 5 cards share 3 IRQs with nothing else.<BR>> =20
> What else is there?<BR>> =20
> Sadly,<BR>> > =20
Tom<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> =
> =20
I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?<BR>> =20
> <A=20
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face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>Deej,</FONT></DIV&a mp;gt; <BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Ya, I've =
uninstalled,=20
=3D<BR>>reinstalled Paris<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =
>about=20
five=3D3D20<BR>> >times total in the last day and a=20
half.</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I am close to starting from =
=3D<BR>>scratch=20
and<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =
>possibly=3D3D20<BR>> >doing=20
the antipace thing.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'm getting =
pretty good=20
at it. I<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >have Mec =
1=3D3D20<BR>> =20
>loaded with cards attached to what has=20
always</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>been Card A for three years.=20
Can<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >that =
change?=3D3D20<BR>> =20
>Paris works fine with just that one. I'll try=20
</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>all the others in that =
=3D<BR>></FONT><FONT=20
=3D3D<BR>> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =20
>size=3D3D3D2>position just to see=20
though.</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I am close to =
starting=20
from =3D<BR>>scratch and<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =20
>possibly=3D3D20<BR>> >doing the antipace thing. How =
could that=20
be </FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>the evil that won't allow =
=3D<BR>>hardware to=20
=3D3D<BR>> >show=3D3D20<BR>> =20
>up?</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV > <BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV& ;gt; <BR>> =
><BLOCKQUOTE=20
dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20<BR>> >style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =
0px;=20
PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =20
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
0px"><BR>> =20
> <DIV>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> =
wrote in=20
message <A =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> ><BR>> =
> =20
href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:4696229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:46=
96229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>=
> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Have =
you tested=20
each MEC =3D3D<BR>> >individually? I'd =
start=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> there. Did you iuninstall/reinstall Paris=20
yet?</FONT></DIV><BR>> > <BLOCKQUOTE=20
dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20<BR>> > =
style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;=20
PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
0px"><BR>> =20
> <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" =
<<A=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=20
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >wrote in=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> message <A =3D3D<BR>> =
>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:4695d5bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:4695d5=
bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=
p;=20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>Sorry=20
to shout but this is =3D<BR>>driving<BR>> =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>me=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
insane.</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> > <DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I am working with a cloned =
=3D<BR>>drive=20
=3D3D<BR>> >that used to=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
work with</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>2 Mecs and WC.=20
</FONT><FONT<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D <BR>> =20
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> > =
size=3D3D3D2>Now=20
no matter what I do, I can not</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>get a=20
second Mec to show up<BR>=3D<BR>>and =3D3D<BR>> =20
>receive=3D3D20<BR>> > clock.=20
It</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>doesn't matter if =
it's at=20
=3D<BR>>the end =3D3D<BR>> >of the =
line=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> or =
anywhere</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>else.=20
It doesn't matter if =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =
>it's=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> internally clocked or=20
externally</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>clocked. I've =
changed=20
Mecs,<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >clock =
cables,=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> SCSI =
cables</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>and no=20
changes. I've even =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >tried =
a=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> reinstall of=20
Paris.</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Same deal.=20
</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> > <DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I must be doing something =
=3D<BR>>totally=20
=3D3D<BR>> >wrong for=3D3D20<BR>> =
> this=20
to continue.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>The only thing =
else I can=20
=3D<BR>>think to<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> >try=20
is=3D3D20<BR>> > swapping the last=20
</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>EDS card with =
another or=20
go<BR>=3D<BR>>down to<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> >four.=20
=3D3D20<BR>> > Maybe=20
it's</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>card 5? Or, =
triple check=20
the<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =
>connectors=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> between all the=20
cards</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>again.</FONT></DIV& amp;gt; <BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =
> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>All EDS cards are =
up and=20
=3D<BR>>running =3D3D<BR>> >and play =
audio=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> with Paris=20
effects.</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>All 5 cards share =
3 IRQs=20
=3D<BR>>with =3D3D<BR>> >nothing=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> else.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>What=20
else is =3D<BR>>there?</FONT></DIV> <BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>Sadly,</FONT></DIV& amp;gt; <BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV& ;gt; <BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT =
size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I=20
choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =
>spam,=20
and=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
you?<BR><A=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> =3D<BR>>>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re'>h=
ttp://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re</A>=3D<B=
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bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2>Hey=20
Rod,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>Ya I've been swapping things out to no<BR>=3D<BR>>end =
just=20
to=3D20<BR>>be =
sure.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I even had trouble getting it going =
=3D<BR>>with=20
internal=3D20<BR>>clock which=20
ruled</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>out the Lucid in my=20
mind.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>The latest news is I couldn't get it =
to<BR>=3D<BR>>boot at=20
all=3D20<BR>>with other=20
Mecs</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>being the master. In the process =3D<BR>>I smoked=20
the=3D20<BR>>original Mec=20
A</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>because the SCSI cable was half in at =
=3D<BR>>start=3D20<BR>>up.=20
I heard a crack</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>and then the smell of burning =
=3D<BR>>chips. It=20
still=3D20<BR>>powers up but it's=20
out</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2>of the picture now. Loaded with=20
=
=3D<BR>>modules=3D20<BR>>too.</FONT></DIV> <BR>><D=
IV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Now nothing gets it going except=20
maybe<BR>=3D<BR>>the lowly=3D20<BR>>442. I'll=20
try</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2>that next. I have a local =3D<BR>>engineer =
coming=3D20<BR>>over=20
to see what </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>Paris can do. He's very well =3D<BR>>respected =
in=3D20<BR>>these=20
parts.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>To bad I'm down for the count=20
=
it=3D20<BR>>seems.</FONT></DIV> <BR>><DIV><FONT=
=20
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>Ass</FONT></DIV&g t; <BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
=
</DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR >>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =
0px;=20
PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 =
2px solid;=20
MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Rod Lincoln"=20
<<A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&a=
mp;g'>mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</=
A>&g</A>=3D<BR>>t;=3D20<BR>> =20
wrote in message <A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:4696c93b$1@linux">news:4696c93b$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Tom'=
>news:4696c93b$1@linux">news:4696c93b$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=
<BR>Tom</A>,=3D<BR>>=20
have=3D20<BR>> you done anything to rule out the possibility =
that it=20
may be a =3D<BR>>funky<BR>MEC=3D20<BR>> word clock =
connection,=20
or perhaps the Lucid clock is flakey. Or =3D<BR>>even<BR>a=20
bad=3D20<BR>> mogami wordclock cable (I know that's a =
longshot, but=20
anything's=3D20<BR>> possible)<BR>Just a=20
thought.<BR>Rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl" =
<<A=3D20<BR>> =20
href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto=
:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20</A><BR>&g=
t; =20
wrote:<BR>><BR>>&a mp;lt;BR>>Deej,<BR>>Ya, =
I've=20
uninstalled, =3D<BR>>reinstalled=3D20<BR>> Paris about =
five times=20
total in the =3D3D<BR>>last day and a =
=3D<BR>>half.<BR>>I=20
am=3D20<BR>> close to starting from scratch and possibly =
doing the=20
antipace=3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>thing.<BR>& gt;I'm =
getting=20
pretty good at it. I have =3D<BR>>Mec 1=3D20<BR>> loaded =
with cards=20
attached<BR>=3D3D<BR>>to what has=20
=3D<BR>>always<BR>>been Card A=3D20<BR>> for =
three years. Can=20
that change? Paris works fine with=20
=3D<BR> >just<BR>=3D3D<BR>> ;that=3D20 <BR>> =
one. I'll=20
try=3D3D20<BR>>all the others in that position just =
=3D<BR>>to=20
see=3D20<BR>> though.<BR>><BR>>I am close =
to starting=20
from scratch and =3D<BR>>possibly doing=3D20<BR>> the =
antipace=20
=3D3D<BR>>thing. How could that be=3D3D20<BR>>the =
=3D<BR>>evil=20
that=3D20<BR>> won't allow hardware to show=20
=3D<BR> >up?<BR>>Thanks,<BR&g t;>Tom<BR>>=20
"DJ"=3D20<BR>> <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote =
in=20
message=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>news:4696229c$1@linux...<BR>> Have you =
tested each=20
=3D<BR>>MEC=3D20<BR>> individually? I'd start there. Did =
you=20
=3D3D<BR>>iuninstall/reinstall =
=3D<BR>>Paris=3D20<BR>> =20
yet?<BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20<BR>> =
href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=20
wrote =3D<BR>>in message=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>news:4695d5bf@linux...<BR>> Sorry to =
=3D<BR>>shout=20
but=3D20<BR>> this is driving me =
insane.<BR>><BR>> I=20
am =3D<BR>>working with=3D20<BR>> a cloned drive that used =
to work=20
with<BR>> 2 Mecs =3D<BR>>and=3D20<BR>> WC. Now no =
matter what=20
I do, I can not<BR>> =3D<BR>>get a=3D20<BR>> =
second Mec to=20
show up and receive clock. =3D<BR>>It<BR>> =
=3D20<BR>> doesn't=20
matter if it's at the end of the line or=3D20<BR>> =20
anywhere<BR>> else. It doesn't matter if=20
=3D<BR>>it's=3D20<BR>> internally clocked or =
externally<BR>>=20
=3D<BR>>clocked. I've=3D20<BR>> changed Mecs, clock =
cables, SCSI=20
cables<BR>> and =3D<BR>>no=3D20<BR>> changes. =
I've even tried=20
a reinstall of =3D<BR>>Paris.<BR>> =3D20<BR>> =
Same deal.=20
=3D3D20<BR>><BR>> I must be doing=20
=3D<BR>>something=3D20<BR>> totally wrong for this to=20
continue.<BR>> The only =3D<BR>>thing=3D20<BR>> =
else I can=20
think to try is swapping the =3D<BR>>last=3D3D20<BR>>=20
EDS=3D20<BR>> card with another or go down to four.=20
Maybe=3D20<BR>> it's<BR>> card 5? Or, triple check =
the=20
=3D<BR>>connectors=3D20<BR>> between all the =
cards<BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> again.<BR>><BR>> All EDS cards =
are up and=20
=3D<BR>>running and=3D20<BR>> play audio with Paris=20
effects.<BR>> All 5 cards =3D<BR>>share =
3=3D20<BR>> IRQs with=20
nothing else.<BR>> What else is=3D20<BR>> =
there?<BR>>=20
Sadly,<BR>> =3D20<BR>> =20
Tom<BR>><BR>>& lt;BR>> I choose Polesoft=20
=3D<BR>>Lockspam to=3D20<BR>> fight spam, and =
you?<BR>>=20
<A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=
>=3D<BR>>.html</A>=20
=3D20<BR>> <BR>><BR>>< !DOCTYPE HTML =
PUBLIC=20
"-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D20<BR>> =20
=
Transitional//EN" ><BR>><HTML>&l t;HEAD><BR>>=
<META=3D20<BR>> =20
http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type =
content=3D3D3D"text/html;=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
=3D<BR>>content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20<BR>> =
6.00.2800.1400"=3D20<BR>> =20
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=3D<BR> >name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>&g t;<STYLE></STYLE&=
gt;<BR>></HEA=3D<BR> >D><BR>><BODY=3D20 <BR>&=
gt; =20
bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>>& lt;DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR> >size=3D3D3D2>Deej,</FONT>&l t;/DIV><BR>>&l=
t;DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> =20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Ya, I've uninstalled,=20
reinstalled=3D20<BR>> Paris<BR>=3D3D<BR>>about =
five=3D3D20<BR>>times total in the last day =3D<BR>>and=20
a=3D20<BR>> =20
half.</FONT></DIV><BR& ;gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>I am =
close to starting=20
from scratch=3D20<BR>> =20
and<BR>=3D3D<BR>>possibly =3D3D20<BR>>doing the =
antipace=3D20<BR>> =20
thing.</FONT></DIV><BR&am p;gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>I'm =
getting pretty good=20
at it. I =3D3D<BR>>have Mec=3D20<BR>> =
1=3D3D20<BR>>loaded=20
with cards attached to what has=3D20<BR>> =20
always</FONT></DIV><BR&am p;gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>been =
Card A for three=20
years. Can =3D3D<BR>>that=3D20<BR>> =20
change?=3D3D20<BR>>Paris works fine with just that one. I'll=20
try=3D20<BR>> =20
</FONT></DIV><BR>& amp;gt;<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>all the others in =
that=20
</FONT><FONT=3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D3D20&l t;BR>>size=3D3D3D2>p=
osition just=20
to =3D<BR>>see=3D20<BR>> =20
though.</FONT></DIV><BR&a mp;gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =
size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>><DIV&am p;gt;<FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>I am =
close to starting=20
from scratch=3D20<BR>> =20
and<BR>=3D3D<BR>>possibly =3D3D20<BR>>doing the =
antipace=20
thing. How =3D<BR>>could that be=3D20<BR>> =20
</FONT></DIV><BR>& amp;gt;<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>the evil that =
won't allow=20
hardware to=3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR> >=3D3D<BR>>show=3D3D20<BR >>up?</FONT>&l=
t;/DIV><BR>><DIV& g=3D <BR>>t;<FONT=3D20<BR>>&n=
bsp;=20
face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR> >size=3D3D3D2>Thanks,</FONT>& ;lt;/DIV><BR>>=
<DIV><FONT=3D<BR>>=3D20<BR>> =20
face=3D3D3DArial=20
=
=3D<BR> >size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT>< /DIV><BR>><=
BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR>> =20
dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; =
PADDING-LEFT:=20
=3D<BR>>5px;=3D20<BR>> MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
=3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT:=20
#000000 2px solid; =3D<BR>>MARGIN-RIGHT:=3D20<BR>> =20
0px"><BR>> <DIV>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot=20
=3D<BR>>_=3D20<BR>> net> wrote in message <A=20
=3D3D<BR>><BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20<BR>> =
=
=3D<BR>>href=3D3D'news:4696229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1@linux</=
A>...</DIV'>news:46=3D<BR>>96229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1=
@linux</A>...</DIV</A>&am p;gt;<BR>=3D <BR>>>=20
=3D20<BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>Have you=20
tested each =3D<BR>>MEC=3D20<BR>> =
=3D3D<BR>>individually? I'd=20
start=3D3D20<BR>> there. Did you=3D20<BR>> =
iuninstall/reinstall=20
Paris yet?</FONT></DIV><BR& gt;> =
=3D<BR>><BR>> =20
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20<BR>>=20
=3D<BR>>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;=3D20<BR>> =
PADDING-LEFT: 5px;=20
MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 =
=3D<BR>>2px=20
solid;=3D20<BR>> MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> =
<DIV>"Tom=20
=3D<BR>>Bruhl"=3D20<BR>> <<A=3D3D20<BR>>=20
href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR>>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net&l=
t;/A'>mailto:arpegi=3D<BR>>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net<=
;/A</A>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>wrote in=3D3D20<BR>> message =
<A=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20<BR >> =20
=
=3D<BR>>href=3D3D'news:4695d5bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>=
;...</DIV'>news:4695d5=3D<BR>>bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux&l=
t;/A>...</DIV</A>>< ;BR>>&nbs=3D <BR>>p;=20
=3D20<BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>Sorry to=20
shout but =3D<BR>>this is=3D20<BR>> =20
driving<BR>=3D3D<BR>>me=3 D3D20<BR>> =
=3D20<BR>> =20
insane.</FONT></DIV><BR&a mp;gt;>=20
=3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D<BR>></DIV><BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>I am=20
working with a =3D<BR>>cloned drive=3D20<BR>> =
=3D3D<BR>>that=20
used to=3D3D20<BR>> work=3D20<BR>> =20
with</FONT></DIV><BR& gt;>=20
=3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>2=20
Mecs and WC. </FONT><FONT=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D3D20&l t;BR>> =
=3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D2>Now=20
no matter=3D20<BR>> what I do, I can=20
=3D<BR> >not</FONT></DIV>< BR>> =
=3D20<BR>> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>get a second Mec =
to=20
=3D<BR>>show up and=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>receive=3D3D20<BR& gt;> =
clock.=3D20<BR>> =20
It</FONT></DIV><BR> ;>=20
=3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>doesn't matter if it's at the end =
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>of=20
the=3D20<BR>> line=3D3D20<BR>> or=3D20<BR>> =
anywhere</FONT></DIV><BR& amp;gt;> =3D20<BR>> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>else. It doesn't=20
=3D<BR>>matter if=3D20<BR>> =
=3D3D<BR>>it's=3D3D20<BR> >=20
internally clocked or=3D20<BR>> =20
externally</FONT></DIV><B R>> =3D20<BR>> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>clocked. I've =
changed=20
=3D<BR>>Mecs,=3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>clock=20
cables,=3D3D20<BR>> SCSI=3D20<BR>> =20
cables</FONT></DIV><BR&am p;gt;>=20
=3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>and=20
no changes. I've even =
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>tried=3D20<BR >> =20
a=3D3D20<BR>> reinstall of=3D20<BR>> =20
Paris.</FONT></DIV><BR&am p;gt;>=20
=3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>Same deal.=3D20<BR>> =20
</FONT></DIV><BR>& amp;gt;=20
=3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D<BR>></DIV><BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>I must be=20
doing =3D<BR>>something totally=3D20<BR>> =
=3D3D<BR>>wrong=20
for=3D3D20<BR>> this to=3D20<BR>> =20
continue.</FONT></DIV><BR >> =3D20<BR>> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>The only thing =
else I=20
=3D<BR>>can think=3D20<BR>> =
to<BR>=3D3D<BR>>try=20
is=3D3D20<BR>> swapping the =
=3D<BR>>last=3D20<BR>> =20
</FONT></DIV><BR>& amp;gt;=20
=3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>EDS=20
card with another or go down=20
=3D<BR> >to<BR>=3D3D<BR>>f our.=3D20 <BR>> =20
=3D3D20<BR>> Maybe=3D20<BR>> =20
it's</FONT></DIV><BR& gt;>=20
=3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>card 5? Or, triple check the=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>connectors=3D3D20<BR&a mp;gt;> between all=20
the=3D20<BR>> cards</FONT></DIV><BR& ;gt;>=20
=3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> =
face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR> >size=3D3D3D2>again.</FONT>& lt;/DIV><BR>> =
=3D20<BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20<BR>> =
</DIV><BR>>=20
<DIV><FONT =3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =
size=3D3D3D2>All=20
EDS cards are up and running =3D3D<BR>>and =
play=3D20<BR>> =20
audio=3D3D20<BR>> with Paris=3D20<BR>> =20
effects.</FONT></DIV><BR& amp;gt;> =3D20<BR>> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>All 5 cards share =
3=20
=3D<BR>>IRQs with=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>nothing=3D3D20<BR& gt;> =3D20<BR>> =20
else.</FONT></DIV><BR& ;gt;>=20
=3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>What else is=3D20<BR>> =20
there?</FONT></DIV><BR&am p;gt;>=20
=3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> =
face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR> >size=3D3D3D2>Sadly,</FONT>& lt;/DIV><BR>> =
=3D20<BR>> <DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV& ;gt;<BR>> =
=3D20<BR>> =20
<DIV><FONT size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose=20
=3D<BR>>Polesoft Lockspam=3D20<BR>> to fight =
=3D3D<BR>>spam,=20
and=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20<BR>> =20
you?<BR><A=3D3D20<BR>& ;gt;=20
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20 <BR>> =20
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lesoft.com/refer=3D<BR>>'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">ht=
tp://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=3D<BR>>>=3D3D<BR>>.html&=
lt;/A>=3D20<BR>> =20
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This is really a novice oriented question but . . .
It doesn't matter which card is the "A" card
in your system as far as Paris' ID orientation right?
I mean I bought Paris with 2.1 in '99 and later bought 3.0
with no card. 3.0 isn't looking for some crack head
ID on the Master EDS card is it? I have no idea which
cards are what now. It never seemed to matter before.
I am recloning for the 6th time in three days just to see if
it clears some things up. Like Paris booting up.
Sheesh
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:46963f5d$1@linux...
Hi Don,
I can't get either of the other two mecs to work on any card.
I will check them as card A though. Thanks for the idea.
I have had 5 cards side by side in the Magma for three years.
Will Paris even boot with one card attached to card E and no others?
I thought not. But maybe I've had A and E backwards all this time?
They're the outside cards either way. The sync cable would be =
backwards
though since they're being daisy chained when using only two.
I'll check each mec individually and try card A as the other end just =
to see.
Thanks,
Tom
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message =
news:46962992$1@linux...
sorry for these dumb questions Tom but...
does this second Mec work all by itself...with every card?
are you sure you have Mec #1 connected to Card A ? (where ever that =
card is in your rig)
Don
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:4695d5bf@linux...
Sorry to shout but this is driving me insane.
I am working with a cloned drive that used to work with
2 Mecs and WC. Now no matter what I do, I can not
get a second Mec to show up and receive clock. It
doesn't matter if it's at the end of the line or anywhere
else. It doesn't matter if it's internally clocked or externally
clocked. I've changed Mecs, clock cables, SCSI cables
and no changes. I've even tried a reinstall of Paris.
Same deal. =20
I must be doing something totally wrong for this to continue.
The only thing else I can think to try is swapping the last=20
EDS card with another or go down to four. Maybe it's
card 5? Or, triple check the connectors between all the cards
again.
All EDS cards are up and running and play audio with Paris =
effects.
All 5 cards share 3 IRQs with nothing else.
What else is there?
Sadly,
Tom
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This is really a novice oriented =
question but . .=20
..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It doesn't matter which card is the "A" =
card</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>in your system as far as Paris' ID =
orientation=20
right?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I mean I bought Paris with 2.1 in '99 =
and later=20
bought 3.0</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>with no card. 3.0 isn't looking =
for some=20
crack head</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ID on the Master EDS card is =
it? I=20
have no idea which</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>cards are what now. It never =
seemed to matter=20
before.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am recloning for the 6th time in =
three days just=20
to see if</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>it clears some things up. Like =
Paris booting=20
up.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sheesh</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
in message=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Don,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I can't get either of the other two =
mecs to work=20
on any card.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I will check them as card A =
though. Thanks=20
for the idea.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have had 5 cards side by side =
in the Magma=20
for three years.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Will Paris even boot with one card =
attached to=20
card E and no others?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I thought not. But maybe I've =
had A and E=20
backwards all this time?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>They're the outside cards either =
way. The=20
sync cable would be backwards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>though since they're being daisy =
chained when=20
using only two.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll check each mec individually and =
try card A=20
as the other end just to see.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Don Nafe" <<A =
href=3D"mailto:dnafe@magma.ca">dnafe@magma.ca</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>sorry for these dumb =
questions Tom=20
but...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>does this second Mec work all by =
itself...with=20
every card?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>are you sure you have Mec #1 =
connected=20
to Card A ? </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>(where ever that =
card is in=20
your rig)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Don</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sorry to shout but this is =
driving me=20
insane.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am working with a cloned drive =
that used to=20
work with</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2 Mecs and WC. </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>Now no matter what I do, I can not</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>get a second Mec to show up and =
receive=20
clock. It</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>doesn't matter if it's at the end =
of the line=20
or anywhere</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>else. It doesn't matter if =
it's=20
internally clocked or externally</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>clocked. I've changed Mecs, =
clock=20
cables, SCSI cables</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and no changes. I've even =
tried a=20
reinstall of Paris.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Same deal. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I must be doing something totally =
wrong for=20
this to continue.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The only thing else I can think =
to try is=20
swapping the last </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>EDS card with another or go down =
to=20
four. Maybe it's</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>card 5? Or, triple check =
the connectors=20
between all the cards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>again.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All EDS cards are up and running =
and play=20
audio with Paris effects.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All 5 cards share 3 IRQs with =
nothing=20
else.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What else is there?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sadly,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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New clone - same symptoms.
"No hardware attached to Master Card."
I had it wired identically as when the drive was cloned.
Magma? Magma cable? DJs mec? Noooooooo.
Unbelievable.
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:46972376@linux...
This is really a novice oriented question but . . .
It doesn't matter which card is the "A" card
in your system as far as Paris' ID orientation right?
I mean I bought Paris with 2.1 in '99 and later bought 3.0
with no card. 3.0 isn't looking for some crack head
ID on the Master EDS card is it? I have no idea which
cards are what now. It never seemed to matter before.
I am recloning for the 6th time in three days just to see if
it clears some things up. Like Paris booting up.
Sheesh
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:46963f5d$1@linux...
Hi Don,
I can't get either of the other two mecs to work on any card.
I will check them as card A though. Thanks for the idea.
I have had 5 cards side by side in the Magma for three years.
Will Paris even boot with one card attached to card E and no others?
I thought not. But maybe I've had A and E backwards all this time?
They're the outside cards either way. The sync cable would be =
backwards
though since they're being daisy chained when using only two.
I'll check each mec individually and try card A as the other end =
just to see.
Thanks,
Tom
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message =
news:46962992$1@linux...
sorry for these dumb questions Tom but...
does this second Mec work all by itself...with every card?
are you sure you have Mec #1 connected to Card A ? (where ever =
that card is in your rig)
Don
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:4695d5bf@linux...
Sorry to shout but this is driving me insane.
I am working with a cloned drive that used to work with
2 Mecs and WC. Now no matter what I do, I can not
get a second Mec to show up and receive clock. It
doesn't matter if it's at the end of the line or anywhere
else. It doesn't matter if it's internally clocked or =
externally
clocked. I've changed Mecs, clock cables, SCSI cables
and no changes. I've even tried a reinstall of Paris.
Same deal. =20
I must be doing something totally wrong for this to continue.
The only thing else I can think to try is swapping the last=20
EDS card with another or go down to four. Maybe it's
card 5? Or, triple check the connectors between all the cards
again.
All EDS cards are up and running and play audio with Paris =
effects.
All 5 cards share 3 IRQs with nothing else.
What else is there?
Sadly,
Tom
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>New clone - same symptoms.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"No hardware attached to Master =
Card."</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I had it wired identically as when the =
drive was=20
cloned.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Magma? Magma cable? DJs =
mec? =20
Noooooooo.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Unbelievable.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
in message=20
<A href=3D"news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This is really a novice oriented =
question but . .=20
.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It doesn't matter which card is the =
"A"=20
card</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>in your system as far as Paris' ID =
orientation=20
right?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I mean I bought Paris with 2.1 in '99 =
and later=20
bought 3.0</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>with no card. 3.0 isn't looking =
for some=20
crack head</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ID on the Master EDS card =
is it? =20
I have no idea which</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>cards are what now. It never =
seemed to=20
matter before.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am recloning for the 6th time in =
three days=20
just to see if</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>it clears some things up. Like =
Paris=20
booting up.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sheesh</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Don,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I can't get either of the other two =
mecs to=20
work on any card.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I will check them as card A =
though. =20
Thanks for the idea.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have had 5 cards side by =
side in the=20
Magma for three years.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Will Paris even boot with one card =
attached to=20
card E and no others?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I thought not. But maybe I've =
had A and E=20
backwards all this time?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>They're the outside cards either =
way. The=20
sync cable would be backwards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>though since they're being daisy =
chained when=20
using only two.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll check each mec individually =
and try card A=20
as the other end just to see.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Don Nafe" <<A =
href=3D"mailto:dnafe@magma.ca">dnafe@magma.ca</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
href=3D"news:46962992$1@linux">news:46962992$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>sorry for these dumb =
questions Tom=20
but...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>does this second Mec work all by=20
itself...with every card?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>are you sure you have Mec #1 =
connected=20
to Card A ? </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>(where ever =
that card is=20
in your rig)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Don</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A =
href=3D"news:4695d5bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sorry to shout but this is =
driving me=20
insane.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am working with a cloned =
drive that used=20
to work with</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2 Mecs and WC. =
</FONT><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>Now no matter what I do, I can =
not</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>get a second Mec to show up and =
receive=20
clock. It</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>doesn't matter if it's at the =
end of the=20
line or anywhere</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>else. It doesn't matter =
if it's=20
internally clocked or externally</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>clocked. I've changed =
Mecs, clock=20
cables, SCSI cables</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and no changes. I've even =
tried a=20
reinstall of Paris.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Same deal. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I must be doing something =
totally wrong for=20
this to continue.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The only thing else I can think =
to try is=20
swapping the last </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>EDS card with another or go =
down to=20
four. Maybe it's</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>card 5? Or, triple check =
the=20
connectors between all the cards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>again.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All EDS cards are up and =
running and play=20
audio with Paris effects.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All 5 cards share 3 IRQs with =
nothing=20
else.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What else is =
there?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sadly,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
spam, and=20
you?<BR><A=20
=
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| Re: Paris hardware troubles won't stop. HELP!!! [message #88039 is a reply to message #88027] |
Fri, 13 July 2007 06:08 |
DJ
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Tom,
You may have fried the MEC but not necessarily the modules. Defective =
SCSI cables will absolutely cause a Paris system to *not work* =
Straightening them may not work either as they may be damaged inside the =
connector (though when this happens, they usually just fall off). I do =
think you have now forund your problem though. I would buy at least one =
new cable and test each cand and MEC with it to see what's working and =
what's not. One other factor is the little ribbon cables that =
interconnect the EDS cards. If these are damaged, not seated or their =
order has been changed in your reconfiguration, this can cause all sorts =
of insanity.
Deej
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
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Well here's what is happening.
I looked very closely at the pins on the scsi cables and noticed
a slightly bent one or two on almost half of them (5). I think it's
from being careless about pushing them in. I straightened them
perfectly and yet still no luck with booting Paris. "No interface =
attached
to the Master Card" is the message. I'm only using one mec to test.
I also tried the 442. Once in a while the Magma wouldn't turn on with =
the
442 attached. I think that is because of the bent pins. That's good =
of
the Magma. I've tried all five cards, removed the A card and swapped =
it=20
with another still no luck.=20
I'm lost in this quagmire now. I'm not even pissed about the busted =
mec
at this point. I want an answer to what is going on. The default =
project=20
is looking for external word clock so that's my only choice although I
have tried it with no Lucid attached with the same results.
I think I'll call Edmund.
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.r.com> wrote in message =
news:469708c8$1@linux...
That kinda totally sucks. Sorry.
rod
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Hey Rod,
>Ya I've been swapping things out to no end just to be sure.
>I even had trouble getting it going with internal clock which ruled
>out the Lucid in my mind.
>
>The latest news is I couldn't get it to boot at all with other Mecs
>being the master. In the process I smoked the original Mec A
>because the SCSI cable was half in at start up. I heard a crack
>and then the smell of burning chips. It still powers up but it's =
out
>of the picture now. Loaded with modules too.
>
>Now nothing gets it going except maybe the lowly 442. I'll try
>that next. I have a local engineer coming over to see what=3D20
>Paris can do. He's very well respected in these parts.
>To bad I'm down for the count it seems.
>Ass
>
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message =3D
>news:4696c93b$1@linux...
>
> Tom, have you done anything to rule out the possibility that it =
may be
=3D
>a funky
> MEC word clock connection, or perhaps the Lucid clock is flakey. =
Or =3D
>even
> a bad mogami wordclock cable (I know that's a longshot, but =
anything's
=3D
>possible)
> Just a thought.
> Rod
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Deej,
> >Ya, I've uninstalled, reinstalled Paris about five times total =
in the
=3D
>=3D3D
> >last day and a half.
> >I am close to starting from scratch and possibly doing the =
antipace =3D
>=3D3D
> >thing.
> >I'm getting pretty good at it. I have Mec 1 loaded with cards =
=3D
>attached
> =3D3D
> >to what has always
> >been Card A for three years. Can that change? Paris works fine =
with =3D
>just
> =3D3D
> >that one. I'll try=3D3D20
> >all the others in that position just to see though.
> >
> >I am close to starting from scratch and possibly doing the =
antipace =3D
>=3D3D
> >thing. How could that be=3D3D20
> >the evil that won't allow hardware to show up?
> >Thanks,
> >Tom
> > "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message =3D3D
> >news:4696229c$1@linux...
> > Have you tested each MEC individually? I'd start there. Did =
you =3D3D
> >iuninstall/reinstall Paris yet?
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =3D3D
> >news:4695d5bf@linux...
> > Sorry to shout but this is driving me insane.
> >
> > I am working with a cloned drive that used to work with
> > 2 Mecs and WC. Now no matter what I do, I can not
> > get a second Mec to show up and receive clock. It
> > doesn't matter if it's at the end of the line or anywhere
> > else. It doesn't matter if it's internally clocked or =
externally
> > clocked. I've changed Mecs, clock cables, SCSI cables
> > and no changes. I've even tried a reinstall of Paris.
> > Same deal. =3D3D20
> >
> > I must be doing something totally wrong for this to =
continue.
> > The only thing else I can think to try is swapping the =
last=3D3D20
> > EDS card with another or go down to four. Maybe it's
> > card 5? Or, triple check the connectors between all the =
cards
> > again.
> >
> > All EDS cards are up and running and play audio with Paris =
=3D
>effects.
> > All 5 cards share 3 IRQs with nothing else.
> > What else is there?
> > Sadly,
> > Tom
> >
> >
> > I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> > http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =3D20
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> ><HTML><HEAD>
> ><META http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html; =
=3D3D
> >charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1">
> ><META content=3D3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" =
name=3D3D3DGENERATOR>
> ><STYLE></STYLE>
> ></HEAD>
> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Deej,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Ya, I've uninstalled, =
=3D
>reinstalled Paris
> =3D3D
> >about five=3D3D20
> >times total in the last day and a half.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I am close to starting =
from =3D
>scratch and
> =3D3D
> >possibly=3D3D20
> >doing the antipace thing.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'm getting pretty good =
at it. I
=3D
>=3D3D
> >have Mec 1=3D3D20
> >loaded with cards attached to what has always</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>been Card A for three =
years. Can
=3D
>=3D3D
> >that change?=3D3D20
> >Paris works fine with just that one. I'll try </FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>all the others in that =
=3D
></FONT><FONT =3D3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> >size=3D3D3D2>position just to see though.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I am close to starting =
from =3D
>scratch and
> =3D3D
> >possibly=3D3D20
> >doing the antipace thing. How could that be </FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>the evil that won't =
allow =3D
>hardware to =3D3D
> >show=3D3D20
> >up?</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> ><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20
> >style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px; =3D
>=3D3D
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message =
<A =3D
>=3D3D
> >
> > =
href=3D3D3D"news:4696229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Have you tested each =
MEC =3D3D
> >individually? I'd start=3D3D20
> > there. Did you iuninstall/reinstall Paris yet?</FONT></DIV>
> > <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20
> > style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; =
MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
=3D
>=3D3D
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D20
> > =
href=3D3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =3D
>=3D3D
> >wrote in=3D3D20
> > message <A =3D3D
> =
>href=3D3D3D"news:4695d5bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Sorry to shout but =
this is =3D
>driving
> =3D3D
> >me=3D3D20
> > insane.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I am working with a =
cloned =3D
>drive =3D3D
> >that used to=3D3D20
> > work with</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>2 Mecs and WC. =
</FONT><FONT
=3D
>=3D3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>Now no matter what I do, I can not</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>get a second Mec to =
show up
=3D
>and =3D3D
> >receive=3D3D20
> > clock. It</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>doesn't matter if =
it's at =3D
>the end =3D3D
> >of the line=3D3D20
> > or anywhere</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>else. It doesn't =
matter if =3D
>=3D3D
> >it's=3D3D20
> > internally clocked or externally</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>clocked. I've =
changed Mecs,
=3D
>=3D3D
> >clock cables,=3D3D20
> > SCSI cables</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>and no changes. =
I've even =3D
>=3D3D
> >tried a=3D3D20
> > reinstall of Paris.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Same deal. =
</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I must be doing =
something =3D
>totally =3D3D
> >wrong for=3D3D20
> > this to continue.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>The only thing else =
I can =3D
>think to
> =3D3D
> >try is=3D3D20
> > swapping the last </FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>EDS card with =
another or go
=3D
>down to
> =3D3D
> >four. =3D3D20
> > Maybe it's</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>card 5? Or, triple =
check the
=3D
>=3D3D
> >connectors=3D3D20
> > between all the cards</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>again.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>All EDS cards are =
up and =3D
>running =3D3D
> >and play audio=3D3D20
> > with Paris effects.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>All 5 cards share 3 =
IRQs =3D
>with =3D3D
> >nothing=3D3D20
> > else.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>What else is =3D
>there?</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Sadly,</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam =
to fight
=3D
>=3D3D
> >spam, and=3D3D20
> > you?<BR><A=3D3D20
> > =3D3D
> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com=
/re=3D
>fer=3D3D
> >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY>=3D3D
> ></HTML>
> >
> >
>
>
><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
><HTML><HEAD>
><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
><STYLE></STYLE>
></HEAD>
><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hey Rod,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Ya I've been swapping things =
out to no
=3D
>end just to=3D20
>be sure.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I even had trouble getting it =
going =3D
>with internal=3D20
>clock which ruled</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>out the Lucid in my =
mind.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>The latest news is I couldn't =
get it to
=3D
>boot at all=3D20
>with other Mecs</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>being the master. In the =
process =3D
>I smoked the=3D20
>original Mec A</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>because the SCSI cable was =
half in at =3D
>start=3D20
>up. I heard a crack</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>and then the smell of burning =
=3D
>chips. It still=3D20
>powers up but it's out</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>of the picture now. Loaded =
with =3D
>modules=3D20
>too.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Now nothing gets it going =
except maybe
=3D
>the lowly=3D20
>442. I'll try</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>that next. I have a local =3D
>engineer coming=3D20
>over to see what </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Paris can do. He's very well =
=3D
>respected in=3D20
>these parts.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>To bad I'm down for the count =
it=3D20
>seems.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Ass</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
=3D
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A=
>&g=3D
>t;=3D20
> wrote in message <A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"news:4696c93b$1@linux">news:4696c93b$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>T=
om,=3D
> have=3D20
> you done anything to rule out the possibility that it may be a =
=3D
>funky<BR>MEC=3D20
> word clock connection, or perhaps the Lucid clock is flakey. Or =
=3D
>even<BR>a bad=3D20
> mogami wordclock cable (I know that's a longshot, but =
anything's=3D20
> possible)<BR>Just a thought.<BR>Rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> =
href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20
> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Deej,<BR>>Ya, I've uninstalled, =3D
>reinstalled=3D20
> Paris about five times total in the =3D3D<BR>>last day and a =3D
>half.<BR>>I am=3D20
> close to starting from scratch and possibly doing the =
antipace=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>thing.<BR>>I'm getting pretty good at it. I have =3D
>Mec 1=3D20
> loaded with cards attached<BR>=3D3D<BR>>to what has =3D
>always<BR>>been Card A=3D20
> for three years. Can that change? Paris works fine with =3D
>just<BR>=3D3D<BR>>that=3D20
> one. I'll try=3D3D20<BR>>all the others in that position just =3D
>to see=3D20
> though.<BR>><BR>>I am close to starting from scratch and =3D
>possibly doing=3D20
> the antipace =3D3D<BR>>thing. How could that be=3D3D20<BR>>the =
=3D
>evil that=3D20
> won't allow hardware to show =3D
>up?<BR>>Thanks,<BR>>Tom<BR>> "DJ"=3D20
> <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>news:4696229c$1@linux...<BR>> Have you tested each =3D
>MEC=3D20
> individually? I'd start there. Did you =
=3D3D<BR>>iuninstall/reinstall =3D
>Paris=3D20
> yet?<BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote =3D
>in message=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>news:4695d5bf@linux...<BR>> Sorry to =3D
>shout but=3D20
> this is driving me insane.<BR>><BR>> I am =3D
>working with=3D20
> a cloned drive that used to work with<BR>> 2 Mecs =3D
>and=3D20
> WC. Now no matter what I do, I can not<BR>> =3D
>get a=3D20
> second Mec to show up and receive clock. =3D
>It<BR>> =3D20
> doesn't matter if it's at the end of the line or=3D20
> anywhere<BR>> else. It doesn't matter if =3D
>it's=3D20
> internally clocked or externally<BR>> =3D
>clocked. I've=3D20
> changed Mecs, clock cables, SCSI cables<BR>> and =3D
>no=3D20
> changes. I've even tried a reinstall of =3D
>Paris.<BR>> =3D20
> Same deal. =3D3D20<BR>><BR>> I must be doing =3D
>something=3D20
> totally wrong for this to continue.<BR>> The only =3D
>thing=3D20
> else I can think to try is swapping the =3D
>last=3D3D20<BR>> EDS=3D20
> card with another or go down to four. Maybe=3D20
> it's<BR>> card 5? Or, triple check the =3D
>connectors=3D20
> between all the cards<BR>> =3D20
> again.<BR>><BR>> All EDS cards are up and =3D
>running and=3D20
> play audio with Paris effects.<BR>> All 5 cards =3D
>share 3=3D20
> IRQs with nothing else.<BR>> What else is=3D20
> there?<BR>> Sadly,<BR>> =3D20
> Tom<BR>><BR>><BR>> I choose Polesoft =3D
>Lockspam to=3D20
> fight spam, and you?<BR>> <A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
fer=3D
>.html</A> =3D20
> <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D20
> Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=3D20
> http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html;=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =3D
>content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20
> 6.00.2800.1400"=3D20
> =3D
>name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=3D
>D><BR>><BODY=3D20
> bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> =3D
>size=3D3D3D2>Deej,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Ya, I've uninstalled, =
reinstalled=3D20
> Paris<BR>=3D3D<BR>>about five=3D3D20<BR>>times total in the last =
day =3D
>and a=3D20
> half.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>I am close to starting from scratch=3D20
> and<BR>=3D3D<BR>>possibly=3D3D20<BR>>doing the antipace=3D20
> thing.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>I'm getting pretty good at it. I =3D3D<BR>>have =
Mec=3D20
> 1=3D3D20<BR>>loaded with cards attached to what has=3D20
> always</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>been Card A for three years. Can =3D3D<BR>>that=3D20
> change?=3D3D20<BR>>Paris works fine with just that one. I'll =
try=3D20
> </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>all the others in that </FONT><FONT=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>>size=3D3D3D2>position just =
to =3D
>see=3D20
> though.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>I am close to starting from scratch=3D20
> and<BR>=3D3D<BR>>possibly=3D3D20<BR>>doing the antipace thing. =
How =3D
>could that be=3D20
> </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>the evil that won't allow hardware to=3D20
> =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>show=3D3D20<BR>>up?</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV&g=3D
>t;<FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> =3D
>size=3D3D3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D
>=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial =3D
>size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; =
PADDING-LEFT: =3D
>5px;=3D20
> MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; =3D
>MARGIN-RIGHT:=3D20
> 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot =3D
>_=3D20
> net> wrote in message <A =3D3D<BR>><BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D'news:4696229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1@linux</A>...</DIV'>news=
:46=3D
>96229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>=3D
>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Have you tested each =3D
>MEC=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>individually? I'd start=3D3D20<BR>> there. Did you=3D20
> iuninstall/reinstall Paris yet?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
>
> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;=3D20
> PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: =
#000000 =3D
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>Bruhl"=3D20
> <<A=3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arp=
egi=3D
>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>wrote in=3D3D20<BR>> message <A=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> =3D
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>href=3D3D'news:4695d5bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:469=
5d5=3D
>bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=3D
>p; =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Sorry to shout but =3D
>this is=3D20
> driving<BR>=3D3D<BR>>me=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> insane.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D
></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I am working with a =3D
>cloned drive=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>that used to=3D3D20<BR>> work=3D20
> with</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>2 Mecs and WC. </FONT><FONT=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>size=3D3D3D2>Now no matter=3D20
> what I do, I can =3D
>not</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>get a second Mec to =3D
>show up and=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>receive=3D3D20<BR>> clock.=3D20
> It</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>doesn't matter if it's at the end =
=3D
>=3D3D<BR>>of the=3D20
> line=3D3D20<BR>> or=3D20
> anywhere</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>else. It doesn't =3D
>matter if=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>it's=3D3D20<BR>> internally clocked or=3D20
> externally</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>clocked. I've changed =
=3D
>Mecs,=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>clock cables,=3D3D20<BR>> SCSI=3D20
> cables</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>and no changes. I've even =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>tried=3D20
> a=3D3D20<BR>> reinstall of=3D20
> Paris.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Same deal.=3D20
> </FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D
></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I must be doing =3D
>something totally=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>wrong for=3D3D20<BR>> this to=3D20
> continue.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>The only thing else I =
=3D
>can think=3D20
> to<BR>=3D3D<BR>>try is=3D3D20<BR>> swapping the =3D
>last=3D20
> </FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>EDS card with another or go down =
=3D
>to<BR>=3D3D<BR>>four.=3D20
> =3D3D20<BR>> Maybe=3D20
> it's</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>card 5? Or, triple check the=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>connectors=3D3D20<BR>> between all the=3D20
> cards</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> =3D
>size=3D3D3D2>again.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20
> </DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>All EDS cards are up and running =3D3D<BR>>and =
play=3D20
> audio=3D3D20<BR>> with Paris=3D20
> effects.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>All 5 cards share 3 =3D
>IRQs with=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>nothing=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> else.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>What else is=3D20
> there?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> =3D
>size=3D3D3D2>Sadly,</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose =3D
>Polesoft Lockspam=3D20
> to fight =3D3D<BR>>spam, and=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> you?<BR><A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
fer=3D
=
>'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=3D=
>>=3D3D<BR>>.html</A>=3D20
> =3D
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You may have fried the MEC but not =
necessarily the=20
modules. Defective SCSI cables will absolutely cause a Paris system to =
*not=20
work* Straightening them may not work either as they may be damaged =
inside the=20
connector (though when this happens, they usually just fall off). I do =
think you=20
have now forund your problem though. I would buy at least one new cable =
and test=20
each cand and MEC with it to see what's working and what's not. One =
other factor=20
is the little ribbon cables that interconnect the EDS cards. If these =
are=20
damaged, not seated or their order has been changed in your =
reconfiguration,=20
this can cause all sorts of insanity.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
in message=20
<A href=3D"news:4697185d@linux">news:4697185d@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Well here's what is =
happening.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I looked very closely at the pins on =
the scsi=20
cables and noticed</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>a slightly bent one or two on almost =
half of them=20
(5). I think it's</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>from being careless about pushing =
them in. =20
I straightened them</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>perfectly and yet still no luck with =
booting=20
Paris. "No interface attached</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>to the Master Card" is the =
message. I'm=20
only using one mec to test.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I also tried the 442. Once in a =
while the=20
Magma wouldn't turn on with the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>442 attached. I think that is =
because of=20
the bent pins. That's good of</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the Magma. </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>I've tried all five cards, removed the A card and swapped it=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>with another </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial size=3D2>still=20
no luck. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm lost in this quagmire now. =
I'm not even=20
pissed about the busted mec</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>at this point. I want an answer =
to what is=20
going on. The default project </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>is looking for external word clock so =
that's my=20
only choice although I</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>have tried it with no Lucid attached =
with the=20
same results.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think I'll call =
Edmund.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.r.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.r.com</A>>=
=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:469708c8$1@linux">news:469708c8$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>That=
=20
kinda totally sucks. Sorry.<BR>rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Hey Rod,<BR>>Ya I've been swapping =
things=20
out to no end just to be sure.<BR>>I even had trouble getting it =
going=20
with internal clock which ruled<BR>>out the Lucid in my=20
mind.<BR>><BR>>The latest news is I couldn't get it to boot at =
all=20
with other Mecs<BR>>being the master. In the process I =
smoked the=20
original Mec A<BR>>because the SCSI cable was half in at start =
up. =20
I heard a crack<BR>>and then the smell of burning chips. It =
still=20
powers up but it's out<BR>>of the picture now. Loaded with =
modules=20
too.<BR>><BR>>Now nothing gets it going except maybe the lowly =
442. I'll try<BR>>that next. I have a local engineer =
coming=20
over to see what=3D20<BR>>Paris can do. He's very well =
respected in=20
these parts.<BR>>To bad I'm down for the count it=20
seems.<BR>>Ass<BR>><BR>> "Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
t;=20
wrote in message =
=3D<BR>>news:4696c93b$1@linux...<BR>><BR>> =20
Tom, have you done anything to rule out the possibility that it may=20
be<BR>=3D<BR>>a funky<BR>> MEC word clock connection, or =
perhaps=20
the Lucid clock is flakey. Or =3D<BR>>even<BR>> a bad =
mogami=20
wordclock cable (I know that's a longshot, but=20
anything's<BR>=3D<BR>>possible)<BR>> Just a =
thought.<BR>> =20
Rod<BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> =20
>Deej,<BR>> >Ya, I've uninstalled, reinstalled Paris =
about=20
five times total in the<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >last =
day and a=20
half.<BR>> >I am close to starting from scratch and =
possibly=20
doing the antipace =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =
>thing.<BR>> =20
>I'm getting pretty good at it. I have Mec 1 loaded with =
cards=20
=3D<BR>>attached<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> >to what =
has=20
always<BR>> >been Card A for three years. Can that =
change? Paris=20
works fine with =3D<BR>>just<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =
>that=20
one. I'll try=3D3D20<BR>> >all the others in that =
position=20
just to see though.<BR>> ><BR>> >I am close =
to=20
starting from scratch and possibly doing the antipace=20
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >thing. How could that=20
be=3D3D20<BR>> >the evil that won't allow hardware to =
show=20
up?<BR>> >Thanks,<BR>> >Tom<BR>> =
> =20
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message=20
=3D3D<BR>> >news:4696229c$1@linux...<BR>> =
> Have=20
you tested each MEC individually? I'd start there. Did you =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>iuninstall/reinstall Paris yet?<BR>> =
> =20
"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
message =3D3D<BR>> >news:4695d5bf@linux...<BR>> =
> Sorry to shout but this is driving me=20
insane.<BR>> ><BR>> > I am =
working=20
with a cloned drive that used to work with<BR>> =20
> 2 Mecs and WC. Now no matter what I do, =
I can=20
not<BR>> > get a second Mec to show up =
and=20
receive clock. It<BR>> > doesn't =
matter=20
if it's at the end of the line or anywhere<BR>> =20
> else. It doesn't matter if it's =
internally=20
clocked or externally<BR>> > =
clocked. =20
I've changed Mecs, clock cables, SCSI cables<BR>> =20
> and no changes. I've even tried a =
reinstall of=20
Paris.<BR>> > Same deal. =
=3D3D20<BR>> =20
><BR>> > I must be doing something =
totally=20
wrong for this to continue.<BR>> > The =
only=20
thing else I can think to try is swapping the =
last=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> EDS card with another or go down to =
four. Maybe=20
it's<BR>> > card 5? Or, triple =
check the=20
connectors between all the cards<BR>> =
> =20
again.<BR>> ><BR>> > All =
EDS cards=20
are up and running and play audio with Paris =
=3D<BR>>effects.<BR>> =20
> All 5 cards share 3 IRQs with nothing=20
else.<BR>> > What else is =
there?<BR>> =20
> Sadly,<BR>> > =20
Tom<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> =20
> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and =
you?<BR>> > <A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
..html</A> =20
=3D20<BR>> ><BR>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC=20
"-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"><BR>> =20
><HTML><HEAD><BR>> ><META=20
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>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>> ><META=20
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bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>> ><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>Deej,</FONT></DIV&a mp;gt; <BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Ya, I've =
uninstalled,=20
=3D<BR>>reinstalled Paris<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =
>about=20
five=3D3D20<BR>> >times total in the last day and a=20
half.</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I am close to starting from =
=3D<BR>>scratch=20
and<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =
>possibly=3D3D20<BR>> =20
>doing the antipace thing.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'm getting =
pretty good=20
at it. I<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >have Mec =
1=3D3D20<BR>> =20
>loaded with cards attached to what has=20
always</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>been Card A for three years.=20
Can<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >that =
change?=3D3D20<BR>> =20
>Paris works fine with just that one. I'll try=20
</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>all the others in that=20
=3D<BR>></FONT><FONT =3D3D<BR>> =20
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =
>size=3D3D3D2>position just to see=20
though.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I am close =
to starting=20
from =3D<BR>>scratch and<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =20
>possibly=3D3D20<BR>> >doing the antipace thing. How =
could that=20
be </FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>the evil that won't allow =
=3D<BR>>hardware to=20
=3D3D<BR>> >show=3D3D20<BR>> =20
>up?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV > <BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV& ;gt; <BR>> =
><BLOCKQUOTE=20
dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20<BR>> >style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =
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>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
0px"><BR>> =20
> <DIV>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> =
wrote in=20
message <A =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> ><BR>> =
> =20
href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:4696229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:46=
96229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>=
> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Have =
you tested=20
each MEC =3D3D<BR>> >individually? I'd =
start=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> there. Did you iuninstall/reinstall Paris=20
yet?</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20<BR>> > =
style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;=20
PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px;<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =20
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
0px"><BR>> =20
> <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" =
<<A=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=20
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >wrote in=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> message <A =3D3D<BR>> =
>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:4695d5bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:4695d5=
bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=
p;=20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>Sorry to shout but this is =
=3D<BR>>driving<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>> >me=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
insane.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> > =
<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I am working with a cloned =
=3D<BR>>drive=20
=3D3D<BR>> >that used to=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
work with</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>2 Mecs and WC.=20
</FONT><FONT<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D <BR>> =20
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
size=3D3D3D2>Now no matter what I do, I can=20
not</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>get a second =
Mec to show=20
up<BR>=3D<BR>>and =3D3D<BR>> =
>receive=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> clock. =
It</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>doesn't matter if it's at =3D<BR>>the end =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>of the line=3D3D20<BR>> > or=20
anywhere</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>else. It =
doesn't matter if=20
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >it's=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> internally clocked or=20
externally</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>clocked. I've =
changed=20
Mecs,<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >clock =
cables,=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> SCSI =
cables</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>and=20
no changes. I've even =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >tried=20
a=3D3D20<BR>> > reinstall of=20
Paris.</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Same deal.=20
</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> > =
<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I must be doing something =
=3D<BR>>totally=20
=3D3D<BR>> >wrong for=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
this to continue.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>The=20
only thing else I can =3D<BR>>think to<BR>> =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>try is=3D3D20<BR>> > swapping the =
last=20
</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>EDS card with =
another or=20
go<BR>=3D<BR>>down to<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> >four. =
=3D3D20<BR>> > Maybe=20
it's</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>card 5? Or, =
triple check=20
the<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =
>connectors=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> between all the=20
cards</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>again.</FONT></DIV& amp;gt; <BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>All=20
EDS cards are up and =3D<BR>>running =3D3D<BR>> >and =
play=20
audio=3D3D20<BR>> > with Paris=20
effects.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>All 5 cards =
share 3 IRQs=20
=3D<BR>>with =3D3D<BR>> >nothing=3D3D20<BR>> =
> else.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>What=20
else is =3D<BR>>there?</FONT></DIV> <BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>Sadly,</FONT></DIV& amp;gt; <BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV& ;gt; <BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT=20
size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to=20
fight<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >spam, =
and=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> you?<BR><A=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>> =
=3D<BR>>>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re'>h=
ttp://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re</A>=3D<B=
R>>fer=3D3D<BR>> =20
>.html</A>=20
=
</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE ></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY&=
gt;=3D3D<BR>> =20
></HTML><BR>> ><BR>> =20
><BR>><BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD =
HTML 4.0=20
=
Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD> <BR>><META=20
http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
=3D<BR>>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
6.00.2800.1400"=20
=
name=3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE> <BR>></HEA=
D><BR>><BODY=20
bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>Hey =
Rod,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Ya I've been swapping things out to=20
no<BR>=3D<BR>>end just to=3D20<BR>>be=20
sure.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>I even had trouble getting it going =3D<BR>>with=20
internal=3D20<BR>>clock which=20
ruled</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>out the Lucid in my=20
mind.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>The latest news is I couldn't get it=20
to<BR>=3D<BR>>boot at all=3D20<BR>>with other=20
Mecs</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>being the master. In the process =3D<BR>>I smoked=20
the=3D20<BR>>original Mec=20
A</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2>because the SCSI cable was half in at=20
=3D<BR>>start=3D20<BR>>up. I heard a=20
crack</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>and then the smell of burning =3D<BR>>chips. It=20
still=3D20<BR>>powers up but it's=20
out</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>of the picture now. Loaded with=20
=
=3D<BR>>modules=3D20<BR>>too.</FONT></DIV> <BR>><D=
IV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2>Now nothing=20
gets it going except maybe<BR>=3D<BR>>the lowly=3D20<BR>>442. =
I'll=20
try</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>that next. I have a local =3D<BR>>engineer=20
coming=3D20<BR>>over to see what=20
</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>Paris can do. He's very well =3D<BR>>respected=20
in=3D20<BR>>these=20
parts.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>To bad I'm down for the count=20
=
it=3D20<BR>>seems.</FONT></DIV> <BR>><DIV><FONT=
=20
face=3D3DArial=20
=
size=3D3D2>Ass</FONT></DIV&g t; <BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
=
</DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR >>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =
0px;=20
PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 =
2px=20
solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" =
<<A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&a=
mp;g'>mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</=
A>&g</A>=3D<BR>>t;=3D20<BR>> =20
wrote in message <A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:4696c93b$1@linux">news:4696c93b$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Tom'=
>news:4696c93b$1@linux">news:4696c93b$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=
<BR>Tom</A>,=3D<BR>>=20
have=3D20<BR>> you done anything to rule out the =
possibility that it=20
may be a =3D<BR>>funky<BR>MEC=3D20<BR>> word clock =
connection,=20
or perhaps the Lucid clock is flakey. Or =3D<BR>>even<BR>a=20
bad=3D20<BR>> mogami wordclock cable (I know that's a =
longshot, but=20
anything's=3D20<BR>> possible)<BR>Just a=20
thought.<BR>Rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl" =
<<A=3D20<BR>> =20
href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto=
:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20</A><BR>&g=
t; =20
=
wrote:<BR>><BR>>&a mp;lt;BR>>Deej,<BR>>Ya, =
I've=20
uninstalled, =3D<BR>>reinstalled=3D20<BR>> Paris about =
five times=20
total in the =3D3D<BR>>last day and a =
=3D<BR>>half.<BR>>I=20
am=3D20<BR>> close to starting from scratch and possibly =
doing the=20
antipace=3D20<BR>> =
=3D3D<BR>>thing.<BR>& gt;I'm getting=20
pretty good at it. I have =3D<BR>>Mec 1=3D20<BR>> loaded =
with cards=20
attached<BR>=3D3D<BR>>to what has=20
=3D<BR>>always<BR>>been Card A=3D20<BR>> for =
three years.=20
Can that change? Paris works fine with=20
=3D<BR> >just<BR>=3D3D<BR>> ;that=3D20 <BR>> =
one. I'll=20
try=3D3D20<BR>>all the others in that position just =
=3D<BR>>to=20
see=3D20<BR>> though.<BR>><BR>>I am close =
to=20
starting from scratch and =3D<BR>>possibly =
doing=3D20<BR>> the=20
antipace =3D3D<BR>>thing. How could that =
be=3D3D20<BR>>the=20
=3D<BR>>evil that=3D20<BR>> won't allow hardware to show =
=3D<BR> >up?<BR>>Thanks,<BR&g t;>Tom<BR>>=20
"DJ"=3D20<BR>> <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> =
wrote in=20
message=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>news:4696229c$1@linux...<BR>> Have you =
tested each=20
=3D<BR>>MEC=3D20<BR>> individually? I'd start there. Did =
you=20
=3D3D<BR>>iuninstall/reinstall =
=3D<BR>>Paris=3D20<BR>> =20
yet?<BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20<BR>> =
href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=20
wrote =3D<BR>>in message=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>news:4695d5bf@linux...<BR>> Sorry to=20
=3D<BR>>shout but=3D20<BR>> this is driving me=20
insane.<BR>><BR>> I am =3D<BR>>working=20
with=3D20<BR>> a cloned drive that used to work =
with<BR>> 2=20
Mecs =3D<BR>>and=3D20<BR>> WC. Now no matter what I do, =
I can=20
not<BR>> =3D<BR>>get a=3D20<BR>> second Mec to =
show up and=20
receive clock. =3D<BR>>It<BR>> =3D20<BR>> =
doesn't matter if=20
it's at the end of the line or=3D20<BR>> =
anywhere<BR>> else.=20
It doesn't matter if =3D<BR>>it's=3D20<BR>> internally =
clocked or=20
externally<BR>> =3D<BR>>clocked. I've=3D20<BR>> =
changed=20
Mecs, clock cables, SCSI cables<BR>> and=20
=3D<BR>>no=3D20<BR>> changes. I've even tried a =
reinstall of=20
=3D<BR>>Paris.<BR>> =3D20<BR>> Same deal.=20
=3D3D20<BR>><BR>> I must be doing=20
=3D<BR>>something=3D20<BR>> totally wrong for this to=20
continue.<BR>> The only =3D<BR>>thing=3D20<BR>> =
else I can=20
think to try is swapping the =3D<BR>>last=3D3D20<BR>>=20
EDS=3D20<BR>> card with another or go down to four.=20
Maybe=3D20<BR>> it's<BR>> card 5? Or, triple check =
the=20
=3D<BR>>connectors=3D20<BR>> between all the =
cards<BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> again.<BR>><BR>> All EDS cards =
are up=20
and =3D<BR>>running and=3D20<BR>> play audio with Paris=20
effects.<BR>> All 5 cards =3D<BR>>share =
3=3D20<BR>> IRQs=20
with nothing else.<BR>> What else is=3D20<BR>> =20
there?<BR>> Sadly,<BR>> =3D20<BR>> =20
Tom<BR>><BR>>& lt;BR>> I choose Polesoft=20
=3D<BR>>Lockspam to=3D20<BR>> fight spam, and =
you?<BR>>=20
<A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=
>=3D<BR>>.html</A>=20
=3D20<BR>> <BR>><BR>>< !DOCTYPE HTML =
PUBLIC=20
"-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D20<BR>> =20
=
Transitional//EN" ><BR>><HTML>&l t;HEAD><BR>>=
<META=3D20<BR>> =20
http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type =
content=3D3D3D"text/html;=3D20<BR>> =20
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=3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META=20
=3D<BR>>content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20<BR>> =20
6.00.2800.1400"=3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR> >name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>&g t;<STYLE></STYLE&=
gt;<BR>></HEA=3D<BR> >D><BR>><BODY=3D20 <BR>&=
gt; =20
bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>>& lt;DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR> >size=3D3D3D2>Deej,</FONT>&l t;/DIV><BR>>&l=
t;DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> =20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Ya, I've uninstalled,=20
reinstalled=3D20<BR>> =
Paris<BR>=3D3D<BR>>about= 20
five=3D3D20<BR>>times total in the last day =3D<BR>>and=20
a=3D20<BR>> =20
half.</FONT></DIV><BR& ;gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>I am =
close to=20
starting from scratch=3D20<BR>> =20
and<BR>=3D3D<BR>>possibly =3D3D20<BR>>doing =
the=20
antipace=3D20<BR>> =20
thing.</FONT></DIV><BR&am p;gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>I'm =
getting pretty=20
good at it. I =3D3D<BR>>have Mec=3D20<BR>> =20
1=3D3D20<BR>>loaded with cards attached to what =
has=3D20<BR>> =20
always</FONT></DIV><BR&am p;gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>been =
Card A for three=20
years. Can =3D3D<BR>>that=3D20<BR>> =20
change?=3D3D20<BR>>Paris works fine with just that one. =
I'll=20
try=3D20<BR>> =20
</FONT></DIV><BR>& amp;gt;<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>all the others =
in that=20
</FONT><FONT=3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D3D20&l t;BR>>size=3D3D3D2>p=
osition=20
just to =3D<BR>>see=3D20<BR>> =20
though.</FONT></DIV><BR&a mp;gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =
size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>><DIV&am p;gt;<FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>I am =
close to=20
starting from scratch=3D20<BR>> =20
and<BR>=3D3D<BR>>possibly =3D3D20<BR>>doing =
the antipace=20
thing. How =3D<BR>>could that be=3D20<BR>> =20
</FONT></DIV><BR>& amp;gt;<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>the evil that =
won't allow=20
hardware to=3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR> >=3D3D<BR>>show=3D3D20<BR >>up?</FONT>&l=
t;/DIV><BR>><DIV& g=3D <BR>>t;<FONT=3D20<BR>>&n=
bsp;=20
face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR> >size=3D3D3D2>Thanks,</FONT>& ;lt;/DIV><BR>>=
<DIV><FONT=3D<BR>>=3D20<BR>> =20
face=3D3D3DArial=20
=
=3D<BR> >size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT>< /DIV><BR>><=
BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR>> =20
dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; =
PADDING-LEFT:=20
=3D<BR>>5px;=3D20<BR>> MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;=20
=3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid;=20
=3D<BR>>MARGIN-RIGHT:=3D20<BR>> 0px"><BR>>=20
<DIV>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot =
=3D<BR>>_=3D20<BR>> =20
net> wrote in message <A =3D3D<BR>><BR>>=20
href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR>>href=3D3D'news:4696229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1@linux</=
A>...</DIV'>news:46=3D<BR>>96229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1=
@linux</A>...</DIV</A>&am p;gt;<BR>=3D <BR>>>=20
=3D20<BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>Have you=20
tested each =3D<BR>>MEC=3D20<BR>> =
=3D3D<BR>>individually? I'd=20
start=3D3D20<BR>> there. Did you=3D20<BR>> =20
iuninstall/reinstall Paris =
yet?</FONT></DIV><BR& gt;>=20
=3D<BR>><BR>> <BLOCKQUOTE =
dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20<BR>>=20
=3D<BR>>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;=3D20<BR>> =
PADDING-LEFT: 5px;=20
MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 =
=3D<BR>>2px=20
solid;=3D20<BR>> MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> =
<DIV>"Tom=20
=3D<BR>>Bruhl"=3D20<BR>> <<A=3D3D20<BR>>=20
href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR>>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net&l=
t;/A'>mailto:arpegi=3D<BR>>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net<=
;/A</A>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>wrote in=3D3D20<BR>> message =
<A=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20<BR >> =20
=
=3D<BR>>href=3D3D'news:4695d5bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>=
;...</DIV'>news:4695d5=3D<BR>>bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux&l=
t;/A>...</DIV</A>>< ;BR>>&nbs=3D <BR>>p;=20
=3D20<BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>Sorry to=20
shout but =3D<BR>>this is=3D20<BR>> =20
driving<BR>=3D3D<BR>>me=3 D3D20<BR>> =
=3D20<BR>> =20
insane.</FONT></DIV><BR&a mp;gt;>=20
=3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D<BR>></DIV><BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>I am=20
working with a =3D<BR>>cloned drive=3D20<BR>> =
=3D3D<BR>>that=20
used to=3D3D20<BR>> work=3D20<BR>> =20
with</FONT></DIV><BR& gt;>=20
=3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>2=20
Mecs and WC. </FONT><FONT=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D3D20&l t;BR>>=20
=3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D2>Now no matter=3D20<BR>> what I =
do, I can=20
=3D<BR> >not</FONT></DIV>< BR>> =
=3D20<BR>> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>get a second =
Mec to=20
=3D<BR>>show up and=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>receive=3D3D20<BR& gt;> =
clock.=3D20<BR>> =20
It</FONT></DIV><BR> ;>=20
=3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>doesn't matter if it's at the end =
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>of=20
the=3D20<BR>> line=3D3D20<BR>> =
or=3D20<BR>> =20
anywhere</FONT></DIV><BR& amp;gt;> =3D20<BR>> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>else. It =
doesn't=20
=3D<BR>>matter if=3D20<BR>> =
=3D3D<BR>>it's=3D3D20<BR> >=20
internally clocked or=3D20<BR>> =20
externally</FONT></DIV><B R>> =
=3D20<BR>> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>clocked. I've =
changed=20
=3D<BR>>Mecs,=3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>clock=20
cables,=3D3D20<BR>> SCSI=3D20<BR>> =20
cables</FONT></DIV><BR&am p;gt;>=20
=3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>and no changes. I've even=20
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>tried=3D20<BR >> =
a=3D3D20<BR>>=20
reinstall of=3D20<BR>> =
Paris.</FONT></DIV><BR&am p;gt;>=20
=3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>Same deal.=3D20<BR>> =20
</FONT></DIV><BR>& amp;gt;=20
=3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D<BR>></DIV><BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>I must be=20
doing =3D<BR>>something totally=3D20<BR>> =
=3D3D<BR>>wrong=20
for=3D3D20<BR>> this to=3D20<BR>> =20
continue.</FONT></DIV><BR >> =3D20<BR>> =
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else I=20
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=3D<BR>>last=3D20<BR>> =20
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=3D3D20<BR>> Maybe=3D20<BR>> =20
it's</FONT></DIV><BR& gt;>=20
=3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3DArial=20
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=3D3D<BR>>connectors=3D3D20<BR&a mp;gt;> between all=20
the=3D20<BR>> cards</FONT></DIV><BR& ;gt;>=20
=3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> =20
face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR> >size=3D3D3D2>again.</FONT>& lt;/DIV><BR>> =
=3D20<BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20<BR>> =
</DIV><BR>>=20
<DIV><FONT =3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
size=3D3D3D2>All EDS cards are up and running =
=3D3D<BR>>and=20
play=3D20<BR>> audio=3D3D20<BR>> with =
Paris=3D20<BR>> =20
effects.</FONT></DIV><BR& amp;gt;> =3D20<BR>> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>All 5 cards =
share 3=20
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Fri, 13 July 2007 06:12 |
Tom Bruhl
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yup.
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message =
news:46977aae@linux...
Tom,
You may have fried the MEC but not necessarily the modules. Defective =
SCSI cables will absolutely cause a Paris system to *not work* =
Straightening them may not work either as they may be damaged inside the =
connector (though when this happens, they usually just fall off). I do =
think you have now forund your problem though. I would buy at least one =
new cable and test each cand and MEC with it to see what's working and =
what's not. One other factor is the little ribbon cables that =
interconnect the EDS cards. If these are damaged, not seated or their =
order has been changed in your reconfiguration, this can cause all sorts =
of insanity.
Deej
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:4697185d@linux...
Well here's what is happening.
I looked very closely at the pins on the scsi cables and noticed
a slightly bent one or two on almost half of them (5). I think it's
from being careless about pushing them in. I straightened them
perfectly and yet still no luck with booting Paris. "No interface =
attached
to the Master Card" is the message. I'm only using one mec to test.
I also tried the 442. Once in a while the Magma wouldn't turn on =
with the
442 attached. I think that is because of the bent pins. That's =
good of
the Magma. I've tried all five cards, removed the A card and =
swapped it=20
with another still no luck.=20
I'm lost in this quagmire now. I'm not even pissed about the busted =
mec
at this point. I want an answer to what is going on. The default =
project=20
is looking for external word clock so that's my only choice although =
I
have tried it with no Lucid attached with the same results.
I think I'll call Edmund.
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.r.com> wrote in message =
news:469708c8$1@linux...
That kinda totally sucks. Sorry.
rod
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Hey Rod,
>Ya I've been swapping things out to no end just to be sure.
>I even had trouble getting it going with internal clock which =
ruled
>out the Lucid in my mind.
>
>The latest news is I couldn't get it to boot at all with other =
Mecs
>being the master. In the process I smoked the original Mec A
>because the SCSI cable was half in at start up. I heard a crack
>and then the smell of burning chips. It still powers up but it's =
out
>of the picture now. Loaded with modules too.
>
>Now nothing gets it going except maybe the lowly 442. I'll try
>that next. I have a local engineer coming over to see what=3D20
>Paris can do. He's very well respected in these parts.
>To bad I'm down for the count it seems.
>Ass
>
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message =3D
>news:4696c93b$1@linux...
>
> Tom, have you done anything to rule out the possibility that it =
may be
=3D
>a funky
> MEC word clock connection, or perhaps the Lucid clock is =
flakey. Or =3D
>even
> a bad mogami wordclock cable (I know that's a longshot, but =
anything's
=3D
>possible)
> Just a thought.
> Rod
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Deej,
> >Ya, I've uninstalled, reinstalled Paris about five times total =
in the
=3D
>=3D3D
> >last day and a half.
> >I am close to starting from scratch and possibly doing the =
antipace =3D
>=3D3D
> >thing.
> >I'm getting pretty good at it. I have Mec 1 loaded with cards =
=3D
>attached
> =3D3D
> >to what has always
> >been Card A for three years. Can that change? Paris works fine =
with =3D
>just
> =3D3D
> >that one. I'll try=3D3D20
> >all the others in that position just to see though.
> >
> >I am close to starting from scratch and possibly doing the =
antipace =3D
>=3D3D
> >thing. How could that be=3D3D20
> >the evil that won't allow hardware to show up?
> >Thanks,
> >Tom
> > "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message =
=3D3D
> >news:4696229c$1@linux...
> > Have you tested each MEC individually? I'd start there. Did =
you =3D3D
> >iuninstall/reinstall Paris yet?
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =3D3D
> >news:4695d5bf@linux...
> > Sorry to shout but this is driving me insane.
> >
> > I am working with a cloned drive that used to work with
> > 2 Mecs and WC. Now no matter what I do, I can not
> > get a second Mec to show up and receive clock. It
> > doesn't matter if it's at the end of the line or anywhere
> > else. It doesn't matter if it's internally clocked or =
externally
> > clocked. I've changed Mecs, clock cables, SCSI cables
> > and no changes. I've even tried a reinstall of Paris.
> > Same deal. =3D3D20
> >
> > I must be doing something totally wrong for this to =
continue.
> > The only thing else I can think to try is swapping the =
last=3D3D20
> > EDS card with another or go down to four. Maybe it's
> > card 5? Or, triple check the connectors between all the =
cards
> > again.
> >
> > All EDS cards are up and running and play audio with Paris =
=3D
>effects.
> > All 5 cards share 3 IRQs with nothing else.
> > What else is there?
> > Sadly,
> > Tom
> >
> >
> > I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> > http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =3D20
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> ><HTML><HEAD>
> ><META http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html; =
=3D3D
> >charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1">
> ><META content=3D3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" =
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> ></HEAD>
> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Deej,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Ya, I've uninstalled, =
=3D
>reinstalled Paris
> =3D3D
> >about five=3D3D20
> >times total in the last day and a half.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I am close to =
starting from =3D
>scratch and
> =3D3D
> >possibly=3D3D20
> >doing the antipace thing.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'm getting pretty =
good at it. I
=3D
>=3D3D
> >have Mec 1=3D3D20
> >loaded with cards attached to what has always</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>been Card A for three =
years. Can
=3D
>=3D3D
> >that change?=3D3D20
> >Paris works fine with just that one. I'll try </FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>all the others in =
that =3D
></FONT><FONT =3D3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> >size=3D3D3D2>position just to see though.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I am close to =
starting from =3D
>scratch and
> =3D3D
> >possibly=3D3D20
> >doing the antipace thing. How could that be </FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>the evil that won't =
allow =3D
>hardware to =3D3D
> >show=3D3D20
> >up?</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> ><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20
> >style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; =
MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D
>=3D3D
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in =
message <A =3D
>=3D3D
> >
> > =
href=3D3D3D"news:4696229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Have you tested =
each MEC =3D3D
> >individually? I'd start=3D3D20
> > there. Did you iuninstall/reinstall Paris yet?</FONT></DIV>
> > <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20
> > style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; =
MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
=3D
>=3D3D
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D20
> > =
href=3D3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =3D
>=3D3D
> >wrote in=3D3D20
> > message <A =3D3D
> =
>href=3D3D3D"news:4695d5bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Sorry to shout =
but this is =3D
>driving
> =3D3D
> >me=3D3D20
> > insane.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I am working with =
a cloned =3D
>drive =3D3D
> >that used to=3D3D20
> > work with</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>2 Mecs and WC. =
</FONT><FONT
=3D
>=3D3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>Now no matter what I do, I can =
not</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>get a second Mec =
to show up
=3D
>and =3D3D
> >receive=3D3D20
> > clock. It</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>doesn't matter if =
it's at =3D
>the end =3D3D
> >of the line=3D3D20
> > or anywhere</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>else. It doesn't =
matter if =3D
>=3D3D
> >it's=3D3D20
> > internally clocked or externally</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>clocked. I've =
changed Mecs,
=3D
>=3D3D
> >clock cables,=3D3D20
> > SCSI cables</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>and no changes. =
I've even =3D
>=3D3D
> >tried a=3D3D20
> > reinstall of Paris.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Same deal. =
</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I must be doing =
something =3D
>totally =3D3D
> >wrong for=3D3D20
> > this to continue.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>The only thing =
else I can =3D
>think to
> =3D3D
> >try is=3D3D20
> > swapping the last </FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>EDS card with =
another or go
=3D
>down to
> =3D3D
> >four. =3D3D20
> > Maybe it's</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>card 5? Or, =
triple check the
=3D
>=3D3D
> >connectors=3D3D20
> > between all the cards</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>again.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>All EDS cards are =
up and =3D
>running =3D3D
> >and play audio=3D3D20
> > with Paris effects.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>All 5 cards share =
3 IRQs =3D
>with =3D3D
> >nothing=3D3D20
> > else.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>What else is =3D
>there?</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>Sadly,</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam =
to fight
=3D
>=3D3D
> >spam, and=3D3D20
> > you?<BR><A=3D3D20
> > =3D3D
> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com=
/re=3D
>fer=3D3D
> >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY>=3D3D
> ></HTML>
> >
> >
>
>
><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
><HTML><HEAD>
><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
><STYLE></STYLE>
></HEAD>
><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hey Rod,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Ya I've been swapping things =
out to no
=3D
>end just to=3D20
>be sure.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I even had trouble getting =
it going =3D
>with internal=3D20
>clock which ruled</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>out the Lucid in my =
mind.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>The latest news is I =
couldn't get it to
=3D
>boot at all=3D20
>with other Mecs</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>being the master. In the =
process =3D
>I smoked the=3D20
>original Mec A</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>because the SCSI cable was =
half in at =3D
>start=3D20
>up. I heard a crack</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>and then the smell of =
burning =3D
>chips. It still=3D20
>powers up but it's out</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>of the picture now. Loaded =
with =3D
>modules=3D20
>too.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Now nothing gets it going =
except maybe
=3D
>the lowly=3D20
>442. I'll try</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>that next. I have a local =
=3D
>engineer coming=3D20
>over to see what </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Paris can do. He's very well =
=3D
>respected in=3D20
>these parts.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>To bad I'm down for the =
count it=3D20
>seems.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Ass</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px; =3D
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A=
>&g=3D
>t;=3D20
> wrote in message <A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"news:4696c93b$1@linux">news:4696c93b$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>T=
om,=3D
> have=3D20
> you done anything to rule out the possibility that it may be a =
=3D
>funky<BR>MEC=3D20
> word clock connection, or perhaps the Lucid clock is flakey. Or =
=3D
>even<BR>a bad=3D20
> mogami wordclock cable (I know that's a longshot, but =
anything's=3D20
> possible)<BR>Just a thought.<BR>Rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> =
href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20
> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Deej,<BR>>Ya, I've uninstalled, =3D
>reinstalled=3D20
> Paris about five times total in the =3D3D<BR>>last day and a =
=3D
>half.<BR>>I am=3D20
> close to starting from scratch and possibly doing the =
antipace=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>thing.<BR>>I'm getting pretty good at it. I have =3D
>Mec 1=3D20
> loaded with cards attached<BR>=3D3D<BR>>to what has =3D
>always<BR>>been Card A=3D20
> for three years. Can that change? Paris works fine with =3D
>just<BR>=3D3D<BR>>that=3D20
> one. I'll try=3D3D20<BR>>all the others in that position just =
=3D
>to see=3D20
> though.<BR>><BR>>I am close to starting from scratch and =3D
>possibly doing=3D20
> the antipace =3D3D<BR>>thing. How could that be=3D3D20<BR>>the =
=3D
>evil that=3D20
> won't allow hardware to show =3D
>up?<BR>>Thanks,<BR>>Tom<BR>> "DJ"=3D20
> <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>news:4696229c$1@linux...<BR>> Have you tested each =
=3D
>MEC=3D20
> individually? I'd start there. Did you =
=3D3D<BR>>iuninstall/reinstall =3D
>Paris=3D20
> yet?<BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote =3D
>in message=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>news:4695d5bf@linux...<BR>> Sorry to =3D
>shout but=3D20
> this is driving me insane.<BR>><BR>> I am =3D
>working with=3D20
> a cloned drive that used to work with<BR>> 2 Mecs =3D
>and=3D20
> WC. Now no matter what I do, I can not<BR>> =3D
>get a=3D20
> second Mec to show up and receive clock. =3D
>It<BR>> =3D20
> doesn't matter if it's at the end of the line or=3D20
> anywhere<BR>> else. It doesn't matter if =3D
>it's=3D20
> internally clocked or externally<BR>> =3D
>clocked. I've=3D20
> changed Mecs, clock cables, SCSI cables<BR>> and =3D
>no=3D20
> changes. I've even tried a reinstall of =3D
>Paris.<BR>> =3D20
> Same deal. =3D3D20<BR>><BR>> I must be doing =3D
>something=3D20
> totally wrong for this to continue.<BR>> The only =3D
>thing=3D20
> else I can think to try is swapping the =3D
>last=3D3D20<BR>> EDS=3D20
> card with another or go down to four. Maybe=3D20
> it's<BR>> card 5? Or, triple check the =3D
>connectors=3D20
> between all the cards<BR>> =3D20
> again.<BR>><BR>> All EDS cards are up and =3D
>running and=3D20
> play audio with Paris effects.<BR>> All 5 cards =3D
>share 3=3D20
> IRQs with nothing else.<BR>> What else is=3D20
> there?<BR>> Sadly,<BR>> =3D20
> Tom<BR>><BR>><BR>> I choose Polesoft =3D
>Lockspam to=3D20
> fight spam, and you?<BR>> <A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
fer=3D
>.html</A> =3D20
> <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D20
> Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=3D20
> http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html;=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =3D
>content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20
> 6.00.2800.1400"=3D20
> =3D
>name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=3D
>D><BR>><BODY=3D20
> bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> =3D
>size=3D3D3D2>Deej,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Ya, I've uninstalled, =
reinstalled=3D20
> Paris<BR>=3D3D<BR>>about five=3D3D20<BR>>times total in the =
last day =3D
>and a=3D20
> half.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>I am close to starting from scratch=3D20
> and<BR>=3D3D<BR>>possibly=3D3D20<BR>>doing the antipace=3D20
> thing.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>I'm getting pretty good at it. I =3D3D<BR>>have =
Mec=3D20
> 1=3D3D20<BR>>loaded with cards attached to what has=3D20
> always</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>been Card A for three years. Can =
=3D3D<BR>>that=3D20
> change?=3D3D20<BR>>Paris works fine with just that one. I'll =
try=3D20
> </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>all the others in that </FONT><FONT=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>>size=3D3D3D2>position =
just to =3D
>see=3D20
> though.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>I am close to starting from scratch=3D20
> and<BR>=3D3D<BR>>possibly=3D3D20<BR>>doing the antipace thing. =
How =3D
>could that be=3D20
> </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>the evil that won't allow hardware to=3D20
> =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>show=3D3D20<BR>>up?</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV&g=3D
>t;<FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> =3D
>size=3D3D3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D
>=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial =3D
>size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; =
PADDING-LEFT: =3D
>5px;=3D20
> MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; =3D
>MARGIN-RIGHT:=3D20
> 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot =3D
>_=3D20
> net> wrote in message <A =3D3D<BR>><BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D'news:4696229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1@linux</A>...</DIV'>news=
:46=3D
>96229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>=3D
>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Have you tested each =
=3D
>MEC=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>individually? I'd start=3D3D20<BR>> there. Did =
you=3D20
> iuninstall/reinstall Paris yet?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
>
> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;=3D20
> PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: =
#000000 =3D
>2px solid;=3D20
> MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Tom =3D
>Bruhl"=3D20
> <<A=3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arp=
egi=3D
>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>wrote in=3D3D20<BR>> message <A=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D'news:4695d5bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:469=
5d5=3D
>bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=3D
>p; =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Sorry to shout but =3D
>this is=3D20
> driving<BR>=3D3D<BR>>me=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> insane.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D
></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I am working with a =
=3D
>cloned drive=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>that used to=3D3D20<BR>> work=3D20
> with</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>2 Mecs and WC. </FONT><FONT=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>size=3D3D3D2>Now no matter=3D20
> what I do, I can =3D
>not</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>get a second Mec to =
=3D
>show up and=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>receive=3D3D20<BR>> clock.=3D20
> It</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>doesn't matter if it's at the end =
=3D
>=3D3D<BR>>of the=3D20
> line=3D3D20<BR>> or=3D20
> anywhere</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>else. It doesn't =3D
>matter if=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>it's=3D3D20<BR>> internally clocked or=3D20
> externally</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>clocked. I've changed =
=3D
>Mecs,=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>clock cables,=3D3D20<BR>> SCSI=3D20
> cables</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>and no changes. I've even =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>tried=3D20
> a=3D3D20<BR>> reinstall of=3D20
> Paris.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Same deal.=3D20
> </FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D
></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I must be doing =3D
>something totally=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>wrong for=3D3D20<BR>> this to=3D20
> continue.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>The only thing else I =
=3D
>can think=3D20
> to<BR>=3D3D<BR>>try is=3D3D20<BR>> swapping the =3D
>last=3D20
> </FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>EDS card with another or go down =
=3D
>to<BR>=3D3D<BR>>four.=3D20
> =3D3D20<BR>> Maybe=3D20
> it's</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>card 5? Or, triple check the=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>connectors=3D3D20<BR>> between all the=3D20
> cards</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> =3D
>size=3D3D3D2>again.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20
> </DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>All EDS cards are up and running =3D3D<BR>>and =
play=3D20
> audio=3D3D20<BR>> with Paris=3D20
> effects.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>All 5 cards share 3 =
=3D
>IRQs with=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>nothing=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> else.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>What else is=3D20
> there?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> =3D
>size=3D3D3D2>Sadly,</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose =3D
>Polesoft Lockspam=3D20
> to fight =3D3D<BR>>spam, and=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> you?<BR><A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
fer=3D
=
>'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=3D=
>>=3D3D<BR>>.html</A>=3D20
> =3D
></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY&=3D
>gt;=3D3D<BR>></HTML><BR>><BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY ></HTML=3D
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>yup.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message <A =
href=3D"news:46977aae@linux">news:46977aae@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You may have fried the MEC but not =
necessarily=20
the modules. Defective SCSI cables will absolutely cause a Paris =
system to=20
*not work* Straightening them may not work either as they may be =
damaged=20
inside the connector (though when this happens, they usually just fall =
off). I=20
do think you have now forund your problem though. I would buy at least =
one new=20
cable and test each cand and MEC with it to see what's working and =
what's not.=20
One other factor is the little ribbon cables that interconnect the EDS =
cards.=20
If these are damaged, not seated or their order has been changed in =
your=20
reconfiguration, this can cause all sorts of insanity.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A =
href=3D"news:4697185d@linux">news:4697185d@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Well here's what is =
happening.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I looked very closely at the pins =
on the scsi=20
cables and noticed</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>a slightly bent one or two on =
almost half of=20
them (5). I think it's</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>from being careless about pushing =
them=20
in. I straightened them</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>perfectly and yet still no luck =
with booting=20
Paris. "No interface attached</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>to the Master Card" is the =
message. I'm=20
only using one mec to test.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I also tried the 442. Once in =
a while the=20
Magma wouldn't turn on with the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>442 attached. I think that is =
because of=20
the bent pins. That's good of</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the Magma. </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>I've tried all five cards, removed the A card and swapped =
it=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>with another </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>still no luck. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm lost in this quagmire =
now. I'm not=20
even pissed about the busted mec</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>at this point. I want an =
answer to what=20
is going on. The default project </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>is looking for external word clock =
so that's my=20
only choice although I</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>have tried it with no Lucid =
attached with the=20
same results.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think I'll call =
Edmund.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.r.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.r.com</A>>=
=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:469708c8$1@linux">news:469708c8$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>That=
=20
kinda totally sucks. Sorry.<BR>rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Hey Rod,<BR>>Ya I've been =
swapping things=20
out to no end just to be sure.<BR>>I even had trouble getting =
it going=20
with internal clock which ruled<BR>>out the Lucid in my=20
mind.<BR>><BR>>The latest news is I couldn't get it to boot =
at all=20
with other Mecs<BR>>being the master. In the process I =
smoked the=20
original Mec A<BR>>because the SCSI cable was half in at start=20
up. I heard a crack<BR>>and then the smell of burning=20
chips. It still powers up but it's out<BR>>of the picture =
now. Loaded with modules too.<BR>><BR>>Now nothing =
gets it=20
going except maybe the lowly 442. I'll try<BR>>that =
next. I=20
have a local engineer coming over to see what=3D20<BR>>Paris =
can=20
do. He's very well respected in these parts.<BR>>To bad =
I'm down=20
for the count it seems.<BR>>Ass<BR>><BR>> "Rod =
Lincoln"=20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
t;=20
wrote in message =
=3D<BR>>news:4696c93b$1@linux...<BR>><BR>> =20
Tom, have you done anything to rule out the possibility that it =
may=20
be<BR>=3D<BR>>a funky<BR>> MEC word clock connection, =
or perhaps=20
the Lucid clock is flakey. Or =3D<BR>>even<BR>> a bad =
mogami=20
wordclock cable (I know that's a longshot, but=20
anything's<BR>=3D<BR>>possible)<BR>> Just a=20
thought.<BR>> Rod<BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> =20
>Deej,<BR>> >Ya, I've uninstalled, reinstalled =
Paris about=20
five times total in the<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >last =
day and a=20
half.<BR>> >I am close to starting from scratch and =
possibly=20
doing the antipace =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =
>thing.<BR>> =20
>I'm getting pretty good at it. I have Mec 1 loaded with =
cards=20
=3D<BR>>attached<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> >to what =
has=20
always<BR>> >been Card A for three years. Can that =
change?=20
Paris works fine with =3D<BR>>just<BR>> =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>that one. I'll try=3D3D20<BR>> >all the =
others in that=20
position just to see though.<BR>> ><BR>> =
>I am=20
close to starting from scratch and possibly doing the antipace=20
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >thing. How could that=20
be=3D3D20<BR>> >the evil that won't allow hardware to =
show=20
up?<BR>> >Thanks,<BR>> >Tom<BR>> =20
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in =
message=20
=3D3D<BR>> >news:4696229c$1@linux...<BR>> =
> =20
Have you tested each MEC individually? I'd start there. Did you=20
=3D3D<BR>> >iuninstall/reinstall Paris =
yet?<BR>> =20
> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
message =3D3D<BR>> =
>news:4695d5bf@linux...<BR>> =20
> Sorry to shout but this is driving me=20
insane.<BR>> ><BR>> > I =
am=20
working with a cloned drive that used to work with<BR>> =20
> 2 Mecs and WC. Now no matter what I =
do, I can=20
not<BR>> > get a second Mec to show =
up and=20
receive clock. It<BR>> > =
doesn't=20
matter if it's at the end of the line or anywhere<BR>> =20
> else. It doesn't matter if it's =
internally=20
clocked or externally<BR>> > =
clocked. =20
I've changed Mecs, clock cables, SCSI cables<BR>> =20
> and no changes. I've even tried a =
reinstall=20
of Paris.<BR>> > Same deal.=20
=3D3D20<BR>> ><BR>> > I =
must be=20
doing something totally wrong for this to continue.<BR>> =20
> The only thing else I can think to try is =
swapping=20
the last=3D3D20<BR>> > EDS card with =
another=20
or go down to four. Maybe it's<BR>> =
> =20
card 5? Or, triple check the connectors between all the=20
cards<BR>> > again.<BR>> =20
><BR>> > All EDS cards are up and =
running=20
and play audio with Paris =3D<BR>>effects.<BR>> =20
> All 5 cards share 3 IRQs with nothing=20
else.<BR>> > What else is=20
there?<BR>> > Sadly,<BR>> =20
> Tom<BR>> ><BR>> =20
><BR>> > I choose Polesoft =
Lockspam to=20
fight spam, and you?<BR>> > <A=20
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size=3D3D3D2>Deej,</FONT></DIV&a mp;gt; <BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Ya, I've =
uninstalled,=20
=3D<BR>>reinstalled Paris<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =
>about=20
five=3D3D20<BR>> >times total in the last day and a=20
half.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I am close to starting from =
=3D<BR>>scratch=20
and<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =
>possibly=3D3D20<BR>> =20
>doing the antipace =
thing.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'm =
getting pretty=20
good at it. I<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >have Mec=20
1=3D3D20<BR>> >loaded with cards attached to what has=20
always</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>been Card A for three years.=20
Can<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >that =
change?=3D3D20<BR>> =20
>Paris works fine with just that one. I'll try=20
</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>all the others in that=20
=3D<BR>></FONT><FONT =3D3D<BR>> =20
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =
>size=3D3D3D2>position just to=20
see though.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I am =
close to=20
starting from =3D<BR>>scratch and<BR>> =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>possibly=3D3D20<BR>> >doing the antipace thing. =
How could=20
that be </FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>the evil that won't allow =
=3D<BR>>hardware=20
to =3D3D<BR>> >show=3D3D20<BR>> =20
>up?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV > <BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV& ;gt; <BR>> =20
><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20<BR>> =20
>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; =
MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;=20
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; =
MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> > <DIV>"DJ" =
<animix=20
_ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message <A=20
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> ><BR>> > =
href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:4696229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:46=
96229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>=
> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>Have you=20
tested each MEC =3D3D<BR>> >individually? I'd=20
start=3D3D20<BR>> > there. Did you =
iuninstall/reinstall=20
Paris yet?</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT:=20
5px;<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 =
2px solid;=20
MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> > =20
<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=20
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >wrote in=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> message <A =3D3D<BR>> =
>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:4695d5bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:4695d5=
bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=
p;=20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>Sorry to shout but this is =
=3D<BR>>driving<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>> >me=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
insane.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>> > =
<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I am working with a cloned =
=3D<BR>>drive=20
=3D3D<BR>> >that used to=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> work =
with</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>2=20
Mecs and WC. =
</FONT><FONT<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D <BR>> =20
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
size=3D3D3D2>Now no matter what I do, I can=20
not</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>get a second =
Mec to show=20
up<BR>=3D<BR>>and =3D3D<BR>> =
>receive=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> clock. =
It</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>doesn't matter if it's at =3D<BR>>the end =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>of the line=3D3D20<BR>> > or=20
anywhere</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>else. It =
doesn't matter=20
if =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >it's=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> internally clocked or=20
externally</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>clocked. I've =
changed=20
Mecs,<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >clock =
cables,=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> SCSI =
cables</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>and no changes. I've even =
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =20
>tried a=3D3D20<BR>> > reinstall =
of=20
Paris.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Same deal.=20
</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>> > =
<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I must be doing something =
=3D<BR>>totally=20
=3D3D<BR>> >wrong for=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
this to continue.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>The only thing else I can =3D<BR>>think =
to<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>> >try is=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
swapping the last </FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>EDS card with another or go<BR>=3D<BR>>down=20
to<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> >four. =
=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> Maybe =
it's</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>card 5? Or, triple check =
the<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =20
>connectors=3D3D20<BR>> > between =
all the=20
cards</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>again.</FONT></DIV& amp;gt; <BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>All EDS cards are up and =3D<BR>>running =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>and play audio=3D3D20<BR>> > =
with Paris=20
effects.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>All 5 cards =
share 3 IRQs=20
=3D<BR>>with =3D3D<BR>> =
>nothing=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> =
else.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>What else is=20
=3D<BR>>there?</FONT></DIV> <BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>Sadly,</FONT></DIV& amp;gt; <BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV& ;gt; <BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT=20
size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to=20
fight<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >spam, =
and=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> you?<BR><A=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>> =
=3D<BR>>>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re'>h=
ttp://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re</A>=3D<B=
R>>fer=3D3D<BR>> =20
>.html</A>=20
=
</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE ></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY&=
gt;=3D3D<BR>> =20
></HTML><BR>> ><BR>> =20
><BR>><BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD =
HTML 4.0=20
=
Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD> <BR>><META=20
http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
=3D<BR>>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
6.00.2800.1400"=20
=
name=3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE> <BR>></HEA=
D><BR>><BODY=20
bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>Hey =
Rod,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Ya I've been swapping things out to=20
no<BR>=3D<BR>>end just to=3D20<BR>>be=20
sure.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>I even had trouble getting it going =3D<BR>>with=20
internal=3D20<BR>>clock which=20
ruled</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>out the Lucid in my=20
mind.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>The latest news is I couldn't get it=20
to<BR>=3D<BR>>boot at all=3D20<BR>>with other=20
Mecs</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>being the master. In the process =3D<BR>>I smoked =
the=3D20<BR>>original Mec=20
A</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>because the SCSI cable was half in at=20
=3D<BR>>start=3D20<BR>>up. I heard a=20
crack</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>and then the smell of burning =3D<BR>>chips. It=20
still=3D20<BR>>powers up but it's=20
out</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>of the picture now. Loaded with=20
=
=3D<BR>>modules=3D20<BR>>too.</FONT></DIV> <BR>><D=
IV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2>Now=20
nothing gets it going except maybe<BR>=3D<BR>>the =
lowly=3D20<BR>>442.=20
I'll try</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>that next. I have a local =3D<BR>>engineer=20
coming=3D20<BR>>over to see what=20
</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>Paris can do. He's very well =3D<BR>>respected=20
in=3D20<BR>>these=20
parts.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>To bad I'm down for the count=20
=
it=3D20<BR>>seems.</FONT></DIV> <BR>><DIV><FONT=
=20
face=3D3DArial=20
=
size=3D3D2>Ass</FONT></DIV&g t; <BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
=
</DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR >>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =
0px;=20
PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: =
#000000 2px=20
solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Rod =
Lincoln"=20
<<A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&a=
mp;g'>mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</=
A>&g</A>=3D<BR>>t;=3D20<BR>> =20
wrote in message <A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:4696c93b$1@linux">news:4696c93b$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Tom'=
>news:4696c93b$1@linux">news:4696c93b$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=
<BR>Tom</A>,=3D<BR>>=20
have=3D20<BR>> you done anything to rule out the =
possibility that=20
it may be a =3D<BR>>funky<BR>MEC=3D20<BR>> word =
clock=20
connection, or perhaps the Lucid clock is flakey. Or=20
=3D<BR>>even<BR>a bad=3D20<BR>> mogami wordclock =
cable (I=20
know that's a longshot, but anything's=3D20<BR>> =20
possible)<BR>Just a thought.<BR>Rod<BR>"Tom =
Bruhl"=20
<<A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto=
:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20</A><BR>&g=
t; =20
=
wrote:<BR>><BR>>&a mp;lt;BR>>Deej,<BR>>Ya,=2 0
I've uninstalled, =3D<BR>>reinstalled=3D20<BR>> Paris =
about five=20
times total in the =3D3D<BR>>last day and a=20
=3D<BR>>half.<BR>>I am=3D20<BR>> close to =
starting from=20
scratch and possibly doing the antipace=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>thing.<BR>& gt;I'm getting pretty good at =
it. I have=20
=3D<BR>>Mec 1=3D20<BR>> loaded with cards=20
attached<BR>=3D3D<BR>>to what has=20
=3D<BR>>always<BR>>been Card A=3D20<BR>> for =
three years.=20
Can that change? Paris works fine with=20
=
=3D<BR> >just<BR>=3D3D<BR>> ;that=3D20 <BR>> one. =
I'll=20
try=3D3D20<BR>>all the others in that position just =
=3D<BR>>to=20
see=3D20<BR>> though.<BR>><BR>>I am =
close to=20
starting from scratch and =3D<BR>>possibly =
doing=3D20<BR>> the=20
antipace =3D3D<BR>>thing. How could that =
be=3D3D20<BR>>the=20
=3D<BR>>evil that=3D20<BR>> won't allow hardware to =
show=20
=3D<BR> >up?<BR>>Thanks,<BR&g t;>Tom<BR>> =
"DJ"=3D20<BR>> <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> =
wrote in=20
message=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>news:4696229c$1@linux...<BR>> Have you =
tested=20
each =3D<BR>>MEC=3D20<BR>> individually? I'd start =
there. Did you=20
=3D3D<BR>>iuninstall/reinstall =
=3D<BR>>Paris=3D20<BR>> =20
yet?<BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20<BR>> =
href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=20
wrote =3D<BR>>in message=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>news:4695d5bf@linux...<BR>> Sorry to=20
=3D<BR>>shout but=3D20<BR>> this is driving me=20
insane.<BR>><BR>> I am =3D<BR>>working=20
with=3D20<BR>> a cloned drive that used to work =
with<BR>>=20
2 Mecs =3D<BR>>and=3D20<BR>> WC. Now no matter what I =
do, I can=20
not<BR>> =3D<BR>>get a=3D20<BR>> second Mec =
to show up=20
and receive clock. =3D<BR>>It<BR>> =3D20<BR>> =
doesn't=20
matter if it's at the end of the line or=3D20<BR>> =20
anywhere<BR>> else. It doesn't matter if=20
=3D<BR>>it's=3D20<BR>> internally clocked or=20
externally<BR>> =3D<BR>>clocked. =
I've=3D20<BR>> changed=20
Mecs, clock cables, SCSI cables<BR>> and=20
=3D<BR>>no=3D20<BR>> changes. I've even tried a =
reinstall of=20
=3D<BR>>Paris.<BR>> =3D20<BR>> Same deal.=20
=3D3D20<BR>><BR>> I must be doing=20
=3D<BR>>something=3D20<BR>> totally wrong for this to=20
continue.<BR>> The only =
=3D<BR>>thing=3D20<BR>> else I=20
can think to try is swapping the =
=3D<BR>>last=3D3D20<BR>>=20
EDS=3D20<BR>> card with another or go down to four.=20
Maybe=3D20<BR>> it's<BR>> card 5? Or, triple =
check the=20
=3D<BR>>connectors=3D20<BR>> between all the =
cards<BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> again.<BR>><BR>> All EDS =
cards are up=20
and =3D<BR>>running and=3D20<BR>> play audio with =
Paris=20
effects.<BR>> All 5 cards =3D<BR>>share =
3=3D20<BR>> IRQs=20
with nothing else.<BR>> What else is=3D20<BR>> =20
there?<BR>> Sadly,<BR>> =3D20<BR>> =20
Tom<BR>><BR>>& lt;BR>> I choose Polesoft=20
=3D<BR>>Lockspam to=3D20<BR>> fight spam, and =
you?<BR>>=20
<A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=
>=3D<BR>>.html</A>=20
=3D20<BR>> <BR>><BR>>< !DOCTYPE HTML =
PUBLIC=20
"-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D20<BR>> =20
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Transitional//EN" ><BR>><HTML>&l t;HEAD><BR>>=
<META=3D20<BR>> =20
http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type =
content=3D3D3D"text/html;=3D20<BR>> =20
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6.00.2800.1400"=3D20<BR>> =20
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=3D<BR> >name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>&g t;<STYLE></STYLE&=
gt;<BR>></HEA=3D<BR> >D><BR>><BODY=3D20 <BR>&=
gt; =20
bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>>& lt;DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR> >size=3D3D3D2>Deej,</FONT>&l t;/DIV><BR>>&l=
t;DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> =20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Ya, I've uninstalled,=20
reinstalled=3D20<BR>> =
Paris<BR>=3D3D<BR>>about= 20
five=3D3D20<BR>>times total in the last day =
=3D<BR>>and=20
a=3D20<BR>> =20
half.</FONT></DIV><BR& ;gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>I =
am close to=20
starting from scratch=3D20<BR>> =20
and<BR>=3D3D<BR>>possibly =3D3D20<BR>>doing =
the=20
antipace=3D20<BR>> =20
thing.</FONT></DIV><BR&am p;gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>I'm =
getting pretty=20
good at it. I =3D3D<BR>>have Mec=3D20<BR>> =20
1=3D3D20<BR>>loaded with cards attached to what=20
has=3D20<BR>> =20
always</FONT></DIV><BR&am p;gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =
size=3D3D3D2>been Card A for=20
three years. Can =3D3D<BR>>that=3D20<BR>> =20
change?=3D3D20<BR>>Paris works fine with just that one. =
I'll=20
try=3D20<BR>> =20
</FONT></DIV><BR>& amp;gt;<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>all the others =
in that=20
</FONT><FONT=3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D3D20&l t;BR>>size=3D3D3D2>p=
osition=20
just to =3D<BR>>see=3D20<BR>> =20
though.</FONT></DIV><BR&a mp;gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =
size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>><DIV&am p;gt;<FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>I =
am close to=20
starting from scratch=3D20<BR>> =20
and<BR>=3D3D<BR>>possibly =3D3D20<BR>>doing =
the=20
antipace thing. How =3D<BR>>could that be=3D20<BR>> =20
</FONT></DIV><BR>& amp;gt;<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>the evil that =
won't allow=20
hardware to=3D20<BR>> =20
=
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| Re: Paris hardware troubles won't stop. HELP!!! [message #88042 is a reply to message #88028] |
Fri, 13 July 2007 06:17 |
DJ
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This is really a novice oriented question but . . .
It doesn't matter which card is the "A" card
in your system as far as Paris' ID orientation right?
Yes, it does, and the orientation of the slots you are using in =
combination with the orientation of the ribbon cables will determine =
this. Have you changed them around during your reconfiguration?
Start with a new SCSI cable and a single EDS card. Test each MEC. Once =
you know if there is a problem there, add a new SCSI cable and another =
card. Put different modules in the MECs so you can see which one is on =
card A, B, C at all times. this will give you the info as to how the =
cards are initializing and which card is card A, B, C as you start =
adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were working =
perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't imagine it being a =
problem. Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue though. Your =
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perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't imagine it being a =
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| Re: Paris hardware troubles won't stop. HELP!!! [message #88043 is a reply to message #88042] |
Fri, 13 July 2007 06:40 |
Rod Lincoln
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I think Tom was asking if there was a "3.0" version of the EDS card that needed
to be connected to the master. The answer to that would be no.
Is this what you were asking Tom?
DJ's advice is very important though. I would do it, if you haven't already.
I don't want to sound like a "RTFM" kind of guy, but the Paris manual describes
this procedure pretty well.
It's on page 4 and 5 of the 3.0 version.
It kind of sounds to me like you may not be hooking up the correct eds card
to the master mec.
Rod
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>
>
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
>news:46972376@linux...
> This is really a novice oriented question but . . .
> It doesn't matter which card is the "A" card
> in your system as far as Paris' ID orientation right?
>
> Yes, it does, and the orientation of the slots you are using in =
>combination with the orientation of the ribbon cables will determine =
>this. Have you changed them around during your reconfiguration?
>
> Start with a new SCSI cable and a single EDS card. Test each MEC. Once
=
>you know if there is a problem there, add a new SCSI cable and another =
>card. Put different modules in the MECs so you can see which one is on =
>card A, B, C at all times. this will give you the info as to how the =
>cards are initializing and which card is card A, B, C as you start =
>adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were working =
>perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't imagine it being a =
>problem. Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue though. Your =
>system will not function with bad SCSI cables.
>
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> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
>in message=20
> <A href=3D"news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This is really a novice oriented =
>question but . .=20
> .</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It doesn't matter which card is the =
>"A"=20
> card</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>in your system as far as Paris' ID =
>orientation=20
> right?</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Yes, it does, and the orientation of
=
>the slots=20
> you are using in combination with the orientation of the ribbon=20
> cables will determine this. Have you changed them around during =
>your=20
> reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Start with a new SCSI cable and a =
>single EDS=20
> card. Test each MEC. Once you know if there is a problem there, add a
=
>new SCSI=20
> cable and another card. Put different modules in the MECs so you can =
>see which=20
> one is on card A, B, C at all times. this will give you the info =
>as to=20
> how the cards are initializing and which card is card A, B, C as you =
>start=20
> adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were working
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>
> perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't imagine it being a =
>problem.=20
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>will not=20
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| Re: Paris hardware troubles won't stop. HELP!!! [message #88044 is a reply to message #88027] |
Fri, 13 July 2007 06:46 |
Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
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Tom....you need to hide your default project in a folder, or rename it. Make
Paris create it's own when it boots, based on the hardware it see's. This
is only during your trouble shooting phase. Once you get everything ironed
out, you can put the default ppj back. I ran into this problem when I was
trouble shooting a while back.
Rod
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
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>
>Well here's what is happening.
>
>I looked very closely at the pins on the scsi cables and noticed
>a slightly bent one or two on almost half of them (5). I think it's
>from being careless about pushing them in. I straightened them
>perfectly and yet still no luck with booting Paris. "No interface =
>attached
>to the Master Card" is the message. I'm only using one mec to test.
>I also tried the 442. Once in a while the Magma wouldn't turn on with =
>the
>442 attached. I think that is because of the bent pins. That's good of
>the Magma. I've tried all five cards, removed the A card and swapped it
=
>
>with another still no luck.=20
>
>I'm lost in this quagmire now. I'm not even pissed about the busted mec
>at this point. I want an answer to what is going on. The default =
>project=20
>is looking for external word clock so that's my only choice although I
>have tried it with no Lucid attached with the same results.
>
>I think I'll call Edmund.
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.r.com> wrote in message =
>news:469708c8$1@linux...
>
> That kinda totally sucks. Sorry.
> rod
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Hey Rod,
> >Ya I've been swapping things out to no end just to be sure.
> >I even had trouble getting it going with internal clock which ruled
> >out the Lucid in my mind.
> >
> >The latest news is I couldn't get it to boot at all with other Mecs
> >being the master. In the process I smoked the original Mec A
> >because the SCSI cable was half in at start up. I heard a crack
> >and then the smell of burning chips. It still powers up but it's out
> >of the picture now. Loaded with modules too.
> >
> >Now nothing gets it going except maybe the lowly 442. I'll try
> >that next. I have a local engineer coming over to see what=3D20
> >Paris can do. He's very well respected in these parts.
> >To bad I'm down for the count it seems.
> >Ass
> >
> > "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message =3D
> >news:4696c93b$1@linux...
> >
> > Tom, have you done anything to rule out the possibility that it may
=
>be
> =3D
> >a funky
> > MEC word clock connection, or perhaps the Lucid clock is flakey. Or
=
>=3D
> >even
> > a bad mogami wordclock cable (I know that's a longshot, but =
>anything's
> =3D
> >possible)
> > Just a thought.
> > Rod
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >Deej,
> > >Ya, I've uninstalled, reinstalled Paris about five times total in
=
>the
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >last day and a half.
> > >I am close to starting from scratch and possibly doing the =
>antipace =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >thing.
> > >I'm getting pretty good at it. I have Mec 1 loaded with cards =3D
> >attached
> > =3D3D
> > >to what has always
> > >been Card A for three years. Can that change? Paris works fine =
>with =3D
> >just
> > =3D3D
> > >that one. I'll try=3D3D20
> > >all the others in that position just to see though.
> > >
> > >I am close to starting from scratch and possibly doing the =
>antipace =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >thing. How could that be=3D3D20
> > >the evil that won't allow hardware to show up?
> > >Thanks,
> > >Tom
> > > "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message =3D3D
> > >news:4696229c$1@linux...
> > > Have you tested each MEC individually? I'd start there. Did you
=
>=3D3D
> > >iuninstall/reinstall Paris yet?
> > > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =3D3D
> > >news:4695d5bf@linux...
> > > Sorry to shout but this is driving me insane.
> > >
> > > I am working with a cloned drive that used to work with
> > > 2 Mecs and WC. Now no matter what I do, I can not
> > > get a second Mec to show up and receive clock. It
> > > doesn't matter if it's at the end of the line or anywhere
> > > else. It doesn't matter if it's internally clocked or =
>externally
> > > clocked. I've changed Mecs, clock cables, SCSI cables
> > > and no changes. I've even tried a reinstall of Paris.
> > > Same deal. =3D3D20
> > >
> > > I must be doing something totally wrong for this to continue.
> > > The only thing else I can think to try is swapping the =
>last=3D3D20
> > > EDS card with another or go down to four. Maybe it's
> > > card 5? Or, triple check the connectors between all the cards
> > > again.
> > >
> > > All EDS cards are up and running and play audio with Paris =3D
> >effects.
> > > All 5 cards share 3 IRQs with nothing else.
> > > What else is there?
> > > Sadly,
> > > Tom
> > >
> > >
> > > I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> > > http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =3D20
> > >
> > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> > ><HTML><HEAD>
> > ><META http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html; =
>=3D3D
> > >charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1">
> > ><META content=3D3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3D3DGENERATOR>
> > ><STYLE></STYLE>
> > ></HEAD>
> > ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Deej,</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Ya, I've uninstalled, =3D
> >reinstalled Paris
> > =3D3D
> > >about five=3D3D20
> > >times total in the last day and a half.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I am close to starting =
>from =3D
> >scratch and
> > =3D3D
> > >possibly=3D3D20
> > >doing the antipace thing.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'm getting pretty good =
>at it. I
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >have Mec 1=3D3D20
> > >loaded with cards attached to what has always</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>been Card A for three =
>years. Can
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >that change?=3D3D20
> > >Paris works fine with just that one. I'll try </FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>all the others in that =
>=3D
> ></FONT><FONT =3D3D
> > >face=3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > >size=3D3D3D2>position just to see though.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I am close to starting =
>from =3D
> >scratch and
> > =3D3D
> > >possibly=3D3D20
> > >doing the antipace thing. How could that be </FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>the evil that won't allow
=
>=3D
> >hardware to =3D3D
> > >show=3D3D20
> > >up?</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> > ><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20
> > >style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
>5px; =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > > <DIV>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message <A
=
>=3D
> >=3D3D
> > >
> > > =
>href=3D3D3D"news:4696229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Have you tested each =
>MEC =3D3D
> > >individually? I'd start=3D3D20
> > > there. Did you iuninstall/reinstall Paris yet?</FONT></DIV>
> > > <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20
> > > style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT:
=
>5px;
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D20
> > > =
>href=3D3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >wrote in=3D3D20
> > > message <A =3D3D
> > >href=3D3D3D"news:4695d5bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Sorry to shout but =
>this is =3D
> >driving
> > =3D3D
> > >me=3D3D20
> > > insane.</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I am working with a =
>cloned =3D
> >drive =3D3D
> > >that used to=3D3D20
> > > work with</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>2 Mecs and WC. =
></FONT><FONT
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >face=3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D2>Now no matter what I do, I can not</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>get a second Mec to =
>show up
> =3D
> >and =3D3D
> > >receive=3D3D20
> > > clock. It</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>doesn't matter if =
>it's at =3D
> >the end =3D3D
> > >of the line=3D3D20
> > > or anywhere</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>else. It doesn't =
>matter if =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >it's=3D3D20
> > > internally clocked or externally</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>clocked. I've changed
=
>Mecs,
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >clock cables,=3D3D20
> > > SCSI cables</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>and no changes. I've
=
>even =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >tried a=3D3D20
> > > reinstall of Paris.</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Same deal. =
></FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I must be doing =
>something =3D
> >totally =3D3D
> > >wrong for=3D3D20
> > > this to continue.</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>The only thing else I
=
>can =3D
> >think to
> > =3D3D
> > >try is=3D3D20
> > > swapping the last </FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>EDS card with another
=
>or go
> =3D
> >down to
> > =3D3D
> > >four. =3D3D20
> > > Maybe it's</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>card 5? Or, triple =
>check the
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >connectors=3D3D20
> > > between all the cards</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>again.</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>All EDS cards are up
=
>and =3D
> >running =3D3D
> > >and play audio=3D3D20
> > > with Paris effects.</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>All 5 cards share 3 =
>IRQs =3D
> >with =3D3D
> > >nothing=3D3D20
> > > else.</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>What else is =3D
> >there?</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Sadly,</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to
=
>fight
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >spam, and=3D3D20
> > > you?<BR><A=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com=
>/re=3D
> >fer=3D3D
> > >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY>=3D3D
> > ></HTML>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> ><HTML><HEAD>
> ><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
> >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
> ><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
> ><STYLE></STYLE>
> ></HEAD>
> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hey Rod,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Ya I've been swapping things out
=
>to no
> =3D
> >end just to=3D20
> >be sure.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I even had trouble getting it =
>going =3D
> >with internal=3D20
> >clock which ruled</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>out the Lucid in my =
>mind.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>The latest news is I couldn't =
>get it to
> =3D
> >boot at all=3D20
> >with other Mecs</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>being the master. In the process
=
>=3D
> >I smoked the=3D20
> >original Mec A</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>because the SCSI cable was half
=
>in at =3D
> >start=3D20
> >up. I heard a crack</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>and then the smell of burning =
>=3D
> >chips. It still=3D20
> >powers up but it's out</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>of the picture now. Loaded with
=
>=3D
> >modules=3D20
> >too.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Now nothing gets it going except
=
>maybe
> =3D
> >the lowly=3D20
> >442. I'll try</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>that next. I have a local =3D
> >engineer coming=3D20
> >over to see what </FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Paris can do. He's very well =3D
> >respected in=3D20
> >these parts.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>To bad I'm down for the count =
>it=3D20
> >seems.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Ass</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>=3D
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A=
>>&g=3D
> >t;=3D20
> > wrote in message <A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D"news:4696c93b$1@linux">news:4696c93b$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>T=
>om,=3D
> > have=3D20
> > you done anything to rule out the possibility that it may be a =3D
> >funky<BR>MEC=3D20
> > word clock connection, or perhaps the Lucid clock is flakey. Or =3D
> >even<BR>a bad=3D20
> > mogami wordclock cable (I know that's a longshot, but =
>anything's=3D20
> > possible)<BR>Just a thought.<BR>Rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> > href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20
> > wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Deej,<BR>>Ya, I've uninstalled, =3D
> >reinstalled=3D20
> > Paris about five times total in the =3D3D<BR>>last day and a =3D
> >half.<BR>>I am=3D20
> > close to starting from scratch and possibly doing the antipace=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>thing.<BR>>I'm getting pretty good at it. I have =3D
> >Mec 1=3D20
> > loaded with cards attached<BR>=3D3D<BR>>to what has =3D
> >always<BR>>been Card A=3D20
> > for three years. Can that change? Paris works fine with =3D
> >just<BR>=3D3D<BR>>that=3D20
> > one. I'll try=3D3D20<BR>>all the others in that position just =3D
> >to see=3D20
> > though.<BR>><BR>>I am close to starting from scratch and =3D
> >possibly doing=3D20
> > the antipace =3D3D<BR>>thing. How could that be=3D3D20<BR>>the =3D
> >evil that=3D20
> > won't allow hardware to show =3D
> >up?<BR>>Thanks,<BR>>Tom<BR>> "DJ"=3D20
> > <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>news:4696229c$1@linux...<BR>> Have you tested each =3D
> >MEC=3D20
> > individually? I'd start there. Did you =
>=3D3D<BR>>iuninstall/reinstall =3D
> >Paris=3D20
> > yet?<BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> > href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
>wrote =3D
> >in message=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>news:4695d5bf@linux...<BR>> Sorry to =3D
> >shout but=3D20
> > this is driving me insane.<BR>><BR>> I am =3D
> >working with=3D20
> > a cloned drive that used to work with<BR>> 2 Mecs =3D
> >and=3D20
> > WC. Now no matter what I do, I can not<BR>> =3D
> >get a=3D20
> > second Mec to show up and receive clock. =3D
> >It<BR>> =3D20
> > doesn't matter if it's at the end of the line or=3D20
> > anywhere<BR>> else. It doesn't matter if =3D
> >it's=3D20
> > internally clocked or externally<BR>> =3D
> >clocked. I've=3D20
> > changed Mecs, clock cables, SCSI cables<BR>> and =3D
> >no=3D20
> > changes. I've even tried a reinstall of =3D
> >Paris.<BR>> =3D20
> > Same deal. =3D3D20<BR>><BR>> I must be doing =3D
> >something=3D20
> > totally wrong for this to continue.<BR>> The only =3D
> >thing=3D20
> > else I can think to try is swapping the =3D
> >last=3D3D20<BR>> EDS=3D20
> > card with another or go down to four. Maybe=3D20
> > it's<BR>> card 5? Or, triple check the =3D
> >connectors=3D20
> > between all the cards<BR>> =3D20
> > again.<BR>><BR>> All EDS cards are up and =3D
> >running and=3D20
> > play audio with Paris effects.<BR>> All 5 cards =3D
> >share 3=3D20
> > IRQs with nothing else.<BR>> What else is=3D20
> > there?<BR>> Sadly,<BR>> =3D20
> > Tom<BR>><BR>><BR>> I choose Polesoft =3D
> >Lockspam to=3D20
> > fight spam, and you?<BR>> <A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
>fer=3D
> >.html</A> =3D20
> > <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D20
> > Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=3D20
> > http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html;=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =3D
> >content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20
> > 6.00.2800.1400"=3D20
> > =3D
> >name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=3D
> >D><BR>><BODY=3D20
> > bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > =3D
> >size=3D3D3D2>Deej,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Ya, I've uninstalled, =
>reinstalled=3D20
> > Paris<BR>=3D3D<BR>>about five=3D3D20<BR>>times total in the last =
>day =3D
> >and a=3D20
> > half.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>I am close to starting from scratch=3D20
> > and<BR>=3D3D<BR>>possibly=3D3D20<BR>>doing the antipace=3D20
> > thing.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>I'm getting pretty good at it. I =3D3D<BR>>have =
>Mec=3D20
> > 1=3D3D20<BR>>loaded with cards attached to what has=3D20
> > always</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>been Card A for three years. Can =3D3D<BR>>that=3D20
> > change?=3D3D20<BR>>Paris works fine with just that one. I'll =
>try=3D20
> > </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>all the others in that </FONT><FONT=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>>size=3D3D3D2>position just to
=
>=3D
> >see=3D20
> > though.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>I am close to starting from scratch=3D20
> > and<BR>=3D3D<BR>>possibly=3D3D20<BR>>doing the antipace thing. How
=
>=3D
> >could that be=3D20
> > </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>the evil that won't allow hardware to=3D20
> > =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>show=3D3D20<BR>>up?</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV&g=3D
> >t;<FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > =3D
> >size=3D3D3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D
> >=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial =3D
> >size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> > dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; =
>PADDING-LEFT: =3D
> >5px;=3D20
> > MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; =3D
> >MARGIN-RIGHT:=3D20
> > 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot =3D
> >_=3D20
> > net> wrote in message <A =3D3D<BR>><BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D'news:4696229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1@linux</A>...</DIV'>news=
>:46=3D
> >96229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>=3D
> >> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Have you tested each =3D
> >MEC=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>individually? I'd start=3D3D20<BR>> there. Did you=3D20
> > iuninstall/reinstall Paris yet?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
> >
> > <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;=3D20
> > PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000
=
>=3D
> >2px solid;=3D20
> > MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Tom =3D
> >Bruhl"=3D20
> > <<A=3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arp=
>egi=3D
> >o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>wrote in=3D3D20<BR>> message <A=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D'news:4695d5bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:469=
>5d5=3D
> >bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=3D
> >p; =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Sorry to shout but =3D
> >this is=3D20
> > driving<BR>=3D3D<BR>>me=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > insane.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
> ><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D
> ></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I am working with a =3D
> >cloned drive=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>that used to=3D3D20<BR>> work=3D20
> > with</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
> ><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>2 Mecs and WC. </FONT><FONT=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >size=3D3D3D2>Now no matter=3D20
> > what I do, I can =3D
> >not</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>get a second Mec to =3D
> >show up and=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>receive=3D3D20<BR>> clock.=3D20
> > It</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
> ><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>doesn't matter if it's at the end =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>of the=3D20
> > line=3D3D20<BR>> or=3D20
> > anywhere</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>else. It doesn't =3D
> >matter if=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>it's=3D3D20<BR>> internally clocked or=3D20
> > externally</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>clocked. I've changed =3D
> >Mecs,=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>clock cables,=3D3D20<BR>> SCSI=3D20
> > cables</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
> ><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>and no changes. I've even =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>tried=3D20
> > a=3D3D20<BR>> reinstall of=3D20
> > Paris.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
> ><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Same deal.=3D20
> > </FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
> ><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D
> ></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I must be doing =3D
> >something totally=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>wrong for=3D3D20<BR>> this to=3D20
> > continue.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>The only thing else I =3D
> >can think=3D20
> > to<BR>=3D3D<BR>>try is=3D3D20<BR>> swapping the =3D
> >last=3D20
> > </FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
> ><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>EDS card with another or go down =3D
> >to<BR>=3D3D<BR>>four.=3D20
> > =3D3D20<BR>> Maybe=3D20
> > it's</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
> ><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>card 5? Or, triple check the=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>connectors=3D3D20<BR>> between all the=3D20
> > cards</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
> ><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > =3D
> >size=3D3D3D2>again.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20
> > </DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>All EDS cards are up and running =3D3D<BR>>and =
>play=3D20
> > audio=3D3D20<BR>> with Paris=3D20
> > effects.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>All 5 cards share 3 =3D
> >IRQs with=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>nothing=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > else.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
> ><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>What else is=3D20
> > there?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
> ><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > =3D
> >size=3D3D3D2>Sadly,</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose =3D
> >Polesoft Lockspam=3D20
> > to fight =3D3D<BR>>spam, and=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > you?<BR><A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
>fer=3D
> =
>>'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=3D=
>
> >>=3D3D<BR>>.html</A>=3D20
> > =3D
> ></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY&=3D
> >gt;=3D3D<BR>></HTML><BR>><BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY ></HTML=3D
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
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><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Well here's what is =
>happening.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I looked very closely at the pins on =
>the scsi=20
>cables and noticed</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>a slightly bent one or two on almost =
>half of them=20
>(5). I think it's</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>from being careless about pushing them
=
>in. I=20
>straightened them</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>perfectly and yet still no luck with =
>booting=20
>Paris. "No interface attached</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>to the Master Card" is the =
>message. I'm only=20
>using one mec to test.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I also tried the 442. Once in a =
>while the=20
>Magma wouldn't turn on with the</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>442 attached. I think that is =
>because of the=20
>bent pins. That's good of</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the Magma. </FONT><FONT =
>face=3DArial=20
>size=3D2>I've tried all five cards, removed the A card and swapped it=20
></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>with another </FONT><FONT face=3DArial
=
>size=3D2>still=20
>no luck. </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm lost in this quagmire now. =
>I'm not even=20
>pissed about the busted mec</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>at this point. I want an answer =
>to what is=20
>going on. The default project </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>is looking for external word clock so =
>that's my=20
>only choice although I</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>have tried it with no Lucid attached =
>with the same=20
>results.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think I'll call Edmund.</FONT></DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.r.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.r.com</A>>=
> wrote=20
> in message <A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:469708c8$1@linux">news:469708c8$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>That=
> kinda=20
> totally sucks. Sorry.<BR>rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Hey Rod,<BR>>Ya I've been swapping =
>things out=20
> to no end just to be sure.<BR>>I even had trouble getting it going =
>with=20
> internal clock which ruled<BR>>out the Lucid in my =
>mind.<BR>><BR>>The=20
> latest news is I couldn't get it to boot at all with other =
>Mecs<BR>>being=20
> the master. In the process I smoked the original Mec =
>A<BR>>because=20
> the SCSI cable was half in at start up. I heard a =
>crack<BR>>and then=20
> the smell of burning chips. It still powers up but it's =
>out<BR>>of=20
> the picture now. Loaded with modules too.<BR>><BR>>Now =
>nothing=20
> gets it going except maybe the lowly 442. I'll try<BR>>that=20
> next. I have a local engineer coming over to see =
>what=3D20<BR>>Paris=20
> can do. He's very well respected in these parts.<BR>>To bad =
>I'm down=20
> for the count it seems.<BR>>Ass<BR>><BR>> "Rod Lincoln" =
><<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
>t;=20
> wrote in message =
>=3D<BR>>news:4696c93b$1@linux...<BR>><BR>> Tom,=20
> have you done anything to rule out the possibility that it may=20
> be<BR>=3D<BR>>a funky<BR>> MEC word clock connection, or =
>perhaps the=20
> Lucid clock is flakey. Or =3D<BR>>even<BR>> a bad mogami =
>wordclock=20
> cable (I know that's a longshot, but=20
> anything's<BR>=3D<BR>>possible)<BR>> Just a =
>thought.<BR>> =20
> Rod<BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> =20
> >Deej,<BR>> >Ya, I've uninstalled, reinstalled Paris =
>about five=20
> times total in the<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >last day and =
>a=20
> half.<BR>> >I am close to starting from scratch and =
>possibly doing=20
> the antipace =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >thing.<BR>> =
>>I'm=20
> getting pretty good at it. I have Mec 1 loaded with cards=20
> =3D<BR>>attached<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> >to what has=20
> always<BR>> >been Card A for three years. Can that change? =
>Paris=20
> works fine with =3D<BR>>just<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =
>>that=20
> one. I'll try=3D3D20<BR>> >all the others in that =
>position=20
> just to see though.<BR>> ><BR>> >I am close to =
>
> starting from scratch and possibly doing the antipace=20
> =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >thing. How could that=20
> be=3D3D20<BR>> >the evil that won't allow hardware to show =
>
> up?<BR>> >Thanks,<BR>> >Tom<BR>> =
>> =20
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message=20
> =3D3D<BR>> >news:4696229c$1@linux...<BR>> =
>> Have=20
> you tested each MEC individually? I'd start there. Did you =
>=3D3D<BR>> =20
> >iuninstall/reinstall Paris yet?<BR>> =
>> "Tom=20
> Bruhl" <<A =
>href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
> wrote in message =3D3D<BR>> =
>>news:4695d5bf@linux...<BR>> =20
> > Sorry to shout but this is driving me=20
> insane.<BR>> ><BR>> > I am =
>working=20
> with a cloned drive that used to work with<BR>> =20
> > 2 Mecs and WC. Now no matter what I do, I =
>can=20
> not<BR>> > get a second Mec to show up =
>and=20
> receive clock. It<BR>> > doesn't =
>matter if=20
> it's at the end of the line or anywhere<BR>> =
>> =20
> else. It doesn't matter if it's internally clocked or=20
> externally<BR>> > clocked. I've =
>changed=20
> Mecs, clock cables, SCSI cables<BR>> > =
>and no=20
> changes. I've even tried a reinstall of Paris.<BR>> =20
> > Same deal. =3D3D20<BR>> =
>><BR>> =20
> > I must be doing something totally wrong for =
>this to=20
> continue.<BR>> > The only thing else I =
>can think=20
> to try is swapping the last=3D3D20<BR>> =
>> EDS card=20
> with another or go down to four. Maybe it's<BR>> =20
> > card 5? Or, triple check the connectors =
>between=20
> all the cards<BR>> > =
>again.<BR>> =20
> ><BR>> > All EDS cards are up and =
>running and=20
> play audio with Paris =3D<BR>>effects.<BR>> =
>> =20
> All 5 cards share 3 IRQs with nothing else.<BR>> =20
> > What else is there?<BR>> =20
> > Sadly,<BR>> > =20
> Tom<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> =
>> =20
> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?<BR>> =20
> > <A=20
> =
>href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>.html</A> =20
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>"-//W3C//DTD=20
> HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"><BR>> =20
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> http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html; =
>=3D3D<BR>> =20
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>content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=20
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> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>> =
>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3D3DArial =
>size=3D3D3D2>Deej,</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Ya, I've =
>uninstalled,=20
> =3D<BR>>reinstalled Paris<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =
>>about=20
> five=3D3D20<BR>> >times total in the last day and a=20
> half.</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I am close to starting from =
>=3D<BR>>scratch=20
> and<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =
>>possibly=3D3D20<BR>> >doing=20
> the antipace thing.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'm getting =
>pretty good=20
> at it. I<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >have Mec =
>1=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> >loaded with cards attached to what has=20
> always</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>been Card A for three years.=20
> Can<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >that =
>change?=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> >Paris works fine with just that one. I'll try=20
> </FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D3D2>all the others in that =
>=3D<BR>></FONT><FONT=20
> =3D3D<BR>> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> >size=3D3D3D2>position just to see=20
> though.</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT =
>
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =
></DIV><BR>> =20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I am close to =
>starting=20
> from =3D<BR>>scratch and<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =20
> >possibly=3D3D20<BR>> >doing the antipace thing. How =
>could that=20
> be </FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>the evil that won't allow =
>=3D<BR>>hardware to=20
> =3D3D<BR>> >show=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> >up?</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT =
>
> face=3D3D3DArial =
>size=3D3D3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
> dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20<BR>> >style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =
>0px;=20
> PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =20
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
>0px"><BR>> =20
> > <DIV>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> =
>wrote in=20
> message <A =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> ><BR>> =
>> =20
> href=3D3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'news:4696229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:46=
>96229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>=
>> =20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Have =
>you tested=20
> each MEC =3D3D<BR>> >individually? I'd =
>start=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > there. Did you iuninstall/reinstall Paris=20
> yet?</FONT></DIV><BR>> > <BLOCKQUOTE=20
> dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;=20
> PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =
>
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
>0px"><BR>> =20
> > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" =
><<A=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > href=3D3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=20
> =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >wrote in=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > message <A =3D3D<BR>> =
>>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'news:4695d5bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:4695d5=
>bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=
>p;=20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
>size=3D3D3D2>Sorry=20
> to shout but this is =3D<BR>>driving<BR>> =
>=3D3D<BR>> =20
> >me=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
> insane.</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
> </DIV><BR>> > <DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I am working with a cloned =
>=3D<BR>>drive=20
> =3D3D<BR>> >that used to=3D3D20<BR>> =
>> =20
> work with</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>2 Mecs and WC.=20
> </FONT><FONT<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =20
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>size=3D3D3D2>Now=20
> no matter what I do, I can not</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
>size=3D3D3D2>get a=20
> second Mec to show up<BR>=3D<BR>>and =3D3D<BR>> =20
> >receive=3D3D20<BR>> > clock.=20
> It</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>doesn't matter if =
>it's at=20
> =3D<BR>>the end =3D3D<BR>> >of the =
>line=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > or =
>anywhere</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
>size=3D3D3D2>else.=20
> It doesn't matter if =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =
>>it's=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > internally clocked or=20
> externally</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>clocked. I've =
>changed=20
> Mecs,<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >clock =
>cables,=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > SCSI =
>cables</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
>size=3D3D3D2>and no=20
> changes. I've even =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >tried =
>a=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > reinstall of=20
> Paris.</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Same deal.=20
> </FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
> </DIV><BR>> > <DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I must be doing something =
>=3D<BR>>totally=20
> =3D3D<BR>> >wrong for=3D3D20<BR>> =
>> this=20
> to continue.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>The only thing =
>else I can=20
> =3D<BR>>think to<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> >try=20
> is=3D3D20<BR>> > swapping the last=20
> </FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>EDS card with =
>another or=20
> go<BR>=3D<BR>>down to<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> >four.=20
> =3D3D20<BR>> > Maybe=20
> it's</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>card 5? Or, =
>triple check=20
> the<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =
>>connectors=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > between all the=20
> cards</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D3D2>again.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =
>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>All EDS cards are =
>up and=20
> =3D<BR>>running =3D3D<BR>> >and play =
>audio=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > with Paris=20
> effects.</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =
>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>All 5 cards share =
>3 IRQs=20
> =3D<BR>>with =3D3D<BR>> >nothing=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > else.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
>size=3D3D3D2>What=20
> else is =3D<BR>>there?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D3D2>Sadly,</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> > <DIV><FONT =
>size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I=20
> choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =
>>spam,=20
> and=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
> you?<BR><A=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
> =3D3D<BR>> =3D<BR>>>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re'>h=
>ttp://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re</A>=3D<B=
>R>>fer=3D3D<BR>> =20
> >.html</A>=20
> =
></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY&=
>gt;=3D3D<BR>> =20
> ></HTML><BR>> ><BR>> =20
> ><BR>><BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML =
>4.0=20
> Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=20
> http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
> =3D<BR>>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
>content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
> 6.00.2800.1400"=20
> =
>name=3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=
>D><BR>><BODY=20
> bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
>size=3D3D2>Hey=20
> Rod,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>Ya I've been swapping things out to no<BR>=3D<BR>>end =
>just=20
> to=3D20<BR>>be =
>sure.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I even had trouble getting it going =
>=3D<BR>>with=20
> internal=3D20<BR>>clock which=20
> ruled</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>out the Lucid in my=20
> mind.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>The latest news is I couldn't get it =
>to<BR>=3D<BR>>boot at=20
> all=3D20<BR>>with other=20
> Mecs</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>being the master. In the process =3D<BR>>I smoked=20
> the=3D20<BR>>original Mec=20
> A</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>because the SCSI cable was half in at =
>=3D<BR>>start=3D20<BR>>up.=20
> I heard a crack</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>and then the smell of burning =
>=3D<BR>>chips. It=20
> still=3D20<BR>>powers up but it's=20
> out</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
>
> size=3D3D2>of the picture now. Loaded with=20
> =
>=3D<BR>>modules=3D20<BR>>too.</FONT></DIV><BR>><D=
>IV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> =
></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Now nothing gets it going except=20
> maybe<BR>=3D<BR>>the lowly=3D20<BR>>442. I'll=20
> try</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
>
> size=3D3D2>that next. I have a local =3D<BR>>engineer =
>coming=3D20<BR>>over=20
> to see what </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>Paris can do. He's very well =3D<BR>>respected =
>in=3D20<BR>>these=20
> parts.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>To bad I'm down for the count=20
> =
>it=3D20<BR>>seems.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=
>=20
> face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>Ass</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
> =
></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR>>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =
>0px;=20
> PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 =
>2px solid;=20
> MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Rod Lincoln"=20
> <<A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&a=
>mp;g'>mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</=
>A>&g</A>=3D<BR>>t;=3D20<BR>> =20
> wrote in message <A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'news:4696c93b$1@linux">news:4696c93b$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Tom'=
>>news:4696c93b$1@linux">news:4696c93b$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=
><BR>Tom</A>,=3D<BR>>=20
> have=3D20<BR>> you done anything to rule out the possibility =
>that it=20
> may be a =3D<BR>>funky<BR>MEC=3D20<BR>> word clock =
>connection,=20
> or perhaps the Lucid clock is flakey. Or =3D<BR>>even<BR>a=20
> bad=3D20<BR>> mogami wordclock cable (I know that's a =
>longshot, but=20
> anything's=3D20<BR>> possible)<BR>Just a=20
> thought.<BR>Rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl" =
><<A=3D20<BR>> =20
> href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto=
>:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20</A><BR>&g=
>t; =20
> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Deej,<BR>>Ya, =
>I've=20
> uninstalled, =3D<BR>>reinstalled=3D20<BR>> Paris about =
>five times=20
> total in the =3D3D<BR>>last day and a =
>=3D<BR>>half.<BR>>I=20
> am=3D20<BR>> close to starting from scratch and possibly =
>doing the=20
> antipace=3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>thing.<BR>>I'm =
>getting=20
> pretty good at it. I have =3D<BR>>Mec 1=3D20<BR>> loaded =
>with cards=20
> attached<BR>=3D3D<BR>>to what has=20
> =3D<BR>>always<BR>>been Card A=3D20<BR>> for =
>three years. Can=20
> that change? Paris works fine with=20
> =3D<BR>>just<BR>=3D3D<BR>>that=3D20<BR>> =
>one. I'll=20
> try=3D3D20<BR>>all the others in that position just =
>=3D<BR>>to=20
> see=3D20<BR>> though.<BR>><BR>>I am close =
>to starting=20
> from scratch and =3D<BR>>possibly doing=3D20<BR>> the =
>antipace=20
> =3D3D<BR>>thing. How could that be=3D3D20<BR>>the =
>=3D<BR>>evil=20
> that=3D20<BR>> won't allow hardware to show=20
> =3D<BR>>up?<BR>>Thanks,<BR>>Tom<BR>>=20
> "DJ"=3D20<BR>> <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote =
>in=20
> message=3D20<BR>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>>news:4696229c$1@linux...<BR>> Have you =
>tested each=20
> =3D<BR>>MEC=3D20<BR>> individually? I'd start there. Did =
>you=20
> =3D3D<BR>>iuninstall/reinstall =
>=3D<BR>>Paris=3D20<BR>> =20
> yet?<BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20<BR>> =
>href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=20
> wrote =3D<BR>>in message=3D20<BR>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>>news:4695d5bf@linux...<BR>> Sorry to =
>=3D<BR>>shout=20
> but=3D20<BR>> this is driving me =
>insane.<BR>><BR>> I=20
> am =3D<BR>>working with=3D20<BR>> a cloned drive that used =
>to work=20
> with<BR>> 2 Mecs =3D<BR>>and=3D20<BR>> WC. Now no =
>matter what=20
> I do, I can not<BR>> =3D<BR>>get a=3D20<BR>> =
>second Mec to=20
> show up and receive clock. =3D<BR>>It<BR>> =
>=3D20<BR>> doesn't=20
> matter if it's at the end of the line or=3D20<BR>> =20
> anywhere<BR>> else. It doesn't matter if=20
> =3D<BR>>it's=3D20<BR>> internally clocked or =
>externally<BR>>=20
> =3D<BR>>clocked. I've=3D20<BR>> changed Mecs, clock =
>cables, SCSI=20
> cables<BR>> and =3D<BR>>no=3D20<BR>> changes. =
>I've even tried=20
> a reinstall of =3D<BR>>Paris.<BR>> =3D20<BR>> =
>Same deal.=20
> =3D3D20<BR>><BR>> I must be doing=20
> =3D<BR>>something=3D20<BR>> totally wrong for this to=20
> continue.<BR>> The only =3D<BR>>thing=3D20<BR>> =
>else I can=20
> think to try is swapping the =3D<BR>>last=3D3D20<BR>>=20
> EDS=3D20<BR>> card with another or go down to four.=20
> Maybe=3D20<BR>> it's<BR>> card 5? Or, triple check =
>the=20
> =3D<BR>>connectors=3D20<BR>> between all the =
>cards<BR>>=20
> =3D20<BR>> again.<BR>><BR>> All EDS cards =
>are up and=20
> =3D<BR>>running and=3D20<BR>> play audio with Paris=20
> effects.<BR>> All 5 cards =3D<BR>>share =
>3=3D20<BR>> IRQs with=20
> nothing else.<BR>> What else is=3D20<BR>> =
>there?<BR>>=20
> Sadly,<BR>> =3D20<BR>> =20
> Tom<BR>><BR>><BR>> I choose Polesoft=20
> =3D<BR>>Lockspam to=3D20<BR>> fight spam, and =
>you?<BR>>=20
> <A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=
>>=3D<BR>>.html</A>=20
> =3D20<BR>> <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML =
>PUBLIC=20
> "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D20<BR>> =20
> =
>Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>>=
><META=3D20<BR>> =20
> http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type =
>content=3D3D3D"text/html;=3D20<BR>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
>
> =3D<BR>>content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20<BR>> =
>6.00.2800.1400"=3D20<BR>> =20
> =
>=3D<BR>>name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE&=
>gt;<BR>></HEA=3D<BR>>D><BR>><BODY=3D20<BR>&=
>gt; =20
> bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
> =
>=3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D2>Deej,</FONT></DIV><BR>>&l=
>t;DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> =20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Ya, I've uninstalled,=20
> reinstalled=3D20<BR>> Paris<BR>=3D3D<BR>>about =
>
> five=3D3D20<BR>>times total in the last day =3D<BR>>and=20
> a=3D20<BR>> =20
> half.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> =3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>I am =
>close to starting=20
> from scratch=3D20<BR>> =20
> and<BR>=3D3D<BR>>possibly=3D3D20<BR>>doing the =
>
> antipace=3D20<BR>> =20
> thing.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> =3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>I'm =
>getting pretty good=20
> at it. I =3D3D<BR>>have Mec=3D20<BR>> =
>1=3D3D20<BR>>loaded=20
> with cards attached to what has=3D20<BR>> =20
> always</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> =3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>been =
>Card A for three=20
> years. Can =3D3D<BR>>that=3D20<BR>> =20
> change?=3D3D20<BR>>Paris works fine with just that one. I'll=20
> try=3D20<BR>> =20
> </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>all the others in =
>that=20
> </FONT><FONT=3D20<BR>> =20
> =
>=3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>>size=3D3D3D2>p=
>osition just=20
> to =3D<BR>>see=3D20<BR>> =20
> though.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> =3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =
>size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> =3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>I am =
>close to starting=20
> from scratch=3D20<BR>> =20
> and<BR>=3D3D<BR>>possibly=3D3D20<BR>>doing the =
>antipace=20
> thing. How =3D<BR>>could that be=3D20<BR>> =20
> </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>the evil that =
>won't allow=20
> hardware to=3D20<BR>> =20
> =
>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>show=3D3D20<BR>>up?</FONT>&l=
>t;/DIV><BR>><DIV&g=3D<BR>>t;<FONT=3D20<BR>>&n=
>bsp;=20
> face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
> =
>=3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV><BR>>=
><DIV><FONT=3D<BR>>=3D20<BR>> =20
> face=3D3D3DArial=20
> =
>=3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><=
>BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR>> =20
> dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; =
>PADDING-LEFT:=20
> =3D<BR>>5px;=3D20<BR>> MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>=3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT:=20
> #000000 2px solid; =3D<BR>>MARGIN-RIGHT:=3D20<BR>> =20
> 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot=20
> =3D<BR>>_=3D20<BR>> net> wrote in message <A=20
> =3D3D<BR>><BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20<BR>> =
>
> =
>=3D<BR>>href=3D3D'news:4696229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1@linux</=
>A>...</DIV'>news:46=3D<BR>>96229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1=
>@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>=3D<BR>>>=20
> =3D20<BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
>size=3D3D3D2>Have you=20
> tested each =3D<BR>>MEC=3D20<BR>> =
>=3D3D<BR>>individually? I'd=20
> start=3D3D20<BR>> there. Did you=3D20<BR>> =
>iuninstall/reinstall=20
> Paris yet?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
>=3D<BR>><BR>> =20
> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20<BR>>=20
> =3D<BR>>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;=3D20<BR>> =
>PADDING-LEFT: 5px;=20
> MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 =
>=3D<BR>>2px=20
> solid;=3D20<BR>> MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> =
><DIV>"Tom=20
> =3D<BR>>Bruhl"=3D20<BR>> <<A=3D3D20<BR>>=20
> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20<BR>> =20
> =
>=3D<BR>>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net&l=
>t;/A'>mailto:arpegi=3D<BR>>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net<=
>;/A</A>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>>wrote in=3D3D20<BR>> message =
><A=3D20<BR>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20<BR>> =20
> =
>=3D<BR>>href=3D3D'news:4695d5bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>=
>;...</DIV'>news:4695d5=3D<BR>>bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux&l=
>t;/A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=3D<BR>>p;=20
> =3D20<BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
>size=3D3D3D2>Sorry to=20
> shout but =3D<BR>>this is=3D20<BR>> =20
> driving<BR>=3D3D<BR>>me=3D3D20<BR>> =
>=3D20<BR>> =20
> insane.</FONT></DIV><BR>>=20
> =3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D<BR>></DIV><BR>>=20
> =3D20<BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
>size=3D3D3D2>I am=20
> working with a =3D<BR>>cloned drive=3D20<BR>> =
>=3D3D<BR>>that=20
> used to=3D3D20<BR>> work=3D20<BR>> =20
> with</FONT></DIV><BR>>=20
> =3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3DArial =
>size=3D3D3D2>2=20
> Mecs and WC. </FONT><FONT=3D20<BR>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =
>=3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D2>Now=20
> no matter=3D20<BR>> what I do, I can=20
> =3D<BR>>not</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
>=3D20<BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>get a second Mec =
>to=20
> =3D<BR>>show up and=3D20<BR>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>>receive=3D3D20<BR>> =
>clock.=3D20<BR>> =20
> It</FONT></DIV><BR>>=20
> =3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D3D2>doesn't matter if it's at the end =
>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>of=20
> the=3D20<BR>> line=3D3D20<BR>> or=3D20<BR>> =
>
> anywhere</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20<BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>else. It doesn't=20
> =3D<BR>>matter if=3D20<BR>> =
>=3D3D<BR>>it's=3D3D20<BR>>=20
> internally clocked or=3D20<BR>> =20
> externally</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20<BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>clocked. I've =
>changed=20
> =3D<BR>>Mecs,=3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>clock=20
> cables,=3D3D20<BR>> SCSI=3D20<BR>> =20
> cables</FONT></DIV><BR>>=20
> =3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3DArial =
>size=3D3D3D2>and=20
> no changes. I've even =
>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>tried=3D20<BR>> =20
> a=3D3D20<BR>> reinstall of=3D20<BR>> =20
> Paris.</FONT></DIV><BR>>=20
> =3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D3D2>Same deal.=3D20<BR>> =20
> </FONT></DIV><BR>>=20
> =3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D<BR>></DIV><BR>>=20
> =3D20<BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
>size=3D3D3D2>I must be=20
> doing =3D<BR>>something totally=3D20<BR>> =
>=3D3D<BR>>wrong=20
> for=3D3D20<BR>> this to=3D20<BR>> =20
> continue.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20<BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>The only thing =
>else I=20
> =3D<BR>>can think=3D20<BR>> =
>to<BR>=3D3D<BR>>try=20
> is=3D3D20<BR>> swapping the =
>=3D<BR>>last=3D20<BR>> =20
> </FONT></DIV><BR>>=20
> =3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3DArial =
>size=3D3D3D2>EDS=20
> card with another or go down=20
> =3D<BR>>to<BR>=3D3D<BR>>four.=3D20<BR>> =20
> =3D3D20<BR>> Maybe=3D20<BR>> =20
> it's</FONT></DIV><BR>>=20
> =3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D3D2>card 5? Or, triple check the=3D20<BR>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>>connectors=3D3D20<BR>> between all=20
> the=3D20<BR>> cards</FONT></DIV><BR>>=20
> =3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> =
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
> =
>=3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D2>again.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
>
> =3D20<BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20<BR>> =
></DIV><BR>>=20
> <DIV><FONT =3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =
>size=3D3D3D2>All=20
> EDS cards are up and running =3D3D<BR>>and =
>play=3D20<BR>> =20
> audio=3D3D20<BR>> with Paris=3D20<BR>> =20
> effects.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20<BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>All 5 cards share =
>3=20
> =3D<BR>>IRQs with=3D20<BR>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>>nothing=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20<BR>> =20
> else.</FONT></DIV><BR>>=20
> =3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D3D2>What else is=3D20<BR>> =20
> there?</FONT></DIV><BR>>=20
> =3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> =
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
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| Re: Paris hardware troubles won't stop. HELP!!! [message #88045 is a reply to message #88044] |
Fri, 13 July 2007 06:45 |
Tom Bruhl
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
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Rod,
That's sounds good. I'll try that first. If it doesn't help
I'm stripping down to one EDS/Mec and build from there
if I can. =20
I have been deleting the Scherzo drivers so that there is only
one for each EDS card. I will continue to do that unless you
think I should leave 5 Scherzos for one EDS card.
Tom
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message =
news:4697822f$1@linux...
Tom....you need to hide your default project in a folder, or rename =
it. Make
Paris create it's own when it boots, based on the hardware it see's. =
This
is only during your trouble shooting phase. Once you get everything =
ironed
out, you can put the default ppj back. I ran into this problem when I =
was
trouble shooting a while back.
Rod
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Well here's what is happening.
>
>I looked very closely at the pins on the scsi cables and noticed
>a slightly bent one or two on almost half of them (5). I think it's
>from being careless about pushing them in. I straightened them
>perfectly and yet still no luck with booting Paris. "No interface =
=3D
>attached
>to the Master Card" is the message. I'm only using one mec to test.
>I also tried the 442. Once in a while the Magma wouldn't turn on =
with =3D
>the
>442 attached. I think that is because of the bent pins. That's good =
of
>the Magma. I've tried all five cards, removed the A card and swapped =
it
=3D
>
>with another still no luck.=3D20
>
>I'm lost in this quagmire now. I'm not even pissed about the busted =
mec
>at this point. I want an answer to what is going on. The default =
=3D
>project=3D20
>is looking for external word clock so that's my only choice although =
I
>have tried it with no Lucid attached with the same results.
>
>I think I'll call Edmund.
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.r.com> wrote in message =3D
>news:469708c8$1@linux...
>
> That kinda totally sucks. Sorry.
> rod
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Hey Rod,
> >Ya I've been swapping things out to no end just to be sure.
> >I even had trouble getting it going with internal clock which =
ruled
> >out the Lucid in my mind.
> >
> >The latest news is I couldn't get it to boot at all with other =
Mecs
> >being the master. In the process I smoked the original Mec A
> >because the SCSI cable was half in at start up. I heard a crack
> >and then the smell of burning chips. It still powers up but it's =
out
> >of the picture now. Loaded with modules too.
> >
> >Now nothing gets it going except maybe the lowly 442. I'll try
> >that next. I have a local engineer coming over to see what=3D3D20
> >Paris can do. He's very well respected in these parts.
> >To bad I'm down for the count it seems.
> >Ass
> >
> > "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message =3D3D
> >news:4696c93b$1@linux...
> >
> > Tom, have you done anything to rule out the possibility that it =
may
=3D
>be
> =3D3D
> >a funky
> > MEC word clock connection, or perhaps the Lucid clock is flakey. =
Or
=3D
>=3D3D
> >even
> > a bad mogami wordclock cable (I know that's a longshot, but =3D
>anything's
> =3D3D
> >possible)
> > Just a thought.
> > Rod
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >Deej,
> > >Ya, I've uninstalled, reinstalled Paris about five times total =
in
=3D
>the
> =3D3D
> >=3D3D3D
> > >last day and a half.
> > >I am close to starting from scratch and possibly doing the =3D
>antipace =3D3D
> >=3D3D3D
> > >thing.
> > >I'm getting pretty good at it. I have Mec 1 loaded with cards =
=3D3D
> >attached
> > =3D3D3D
> > >to what has always
> > >been Card A for three years. Can that change? Paris works fine =
=3D
>with =3D3D
> >just
> > =3D3D3D
> > >that one. I'll try=3D3D3D20
> > >all the others in that position just to see though.
> > >
> > >I am close to starting from scratch and possibly doing the =3D
>antipace =3D3D
> >=3D3D3D
> > >thing. How could that be=3D3D3D20
> > >the evil that won't allow hardware to show up?
> > >Thanks,
> > >Tom
> > > "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message =
=3D3D3D
> > >news:4696229c$1@linux...
> > > Have you tested each MEC individually? I'd start there. Did =
you
=3D
>=3D3D3D
> > >iuninstall/reinstall Paris yet?
> > > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =3D3D3D
> > >news:4695d5bf@linux...
> > > Sorry to shout but this is driving me insane.
> > >
> > > I am working with a cloned drive that used to work with
> > > 2 Mecs and WC. Now no matter what I do, I can not
> > > get a second Mec to show up and receive clock. It
> > > doesn't matter if it's at the end of the line or anywhere
> > > else. It doesn't matter if it's internally clocked or =3D
>externally
> > > clocked. I've changed Mecs, clock cables, SCSI cables
> > > and no changes. I've even tried a reinstall of Paris.
> > > Same deal. =3D3D3D20
> > >
> > > I must be doing something totally wrong for this to =
continue.
> > > The only thing else I can think to try is swapping the =3D
>last=3D3D3D20
> > > EDS card with another or go down to four. Maybe it's
> > > card 5? Or, triple check the connectors between all the =
cards
> > > again.
> > >
> > > All EDS cards are up and running and play audio with Paris =
=3D3D
> >effects.
> > > All 5 cards share 3 IRQs with nothing else.
> > > What else is there?
> > > Sadly,
> > > Tom
> > >
> > >
> > > I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> > > http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =3D3D20
> > >
> > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> > ><HTML><HEAD>
> > ><META http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type =
content=3D3D3D3D"text/html; =3D
>=3D3D3D
> > >charset=3D3D3D3Diso-8859-1">
> > ><META content=3D3D3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" =
name=3D3D3D3DGENERATOR>
> > ><STYLE></STYLE>
> > ></HEAD>
> > ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Deej,</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Ya, I've =
uninstalled, =3D3D
> >reinstalled Paris
> > =3D3D3D
> > >about five=3D3D3D20
> > >times total in the last day and a half.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>I am close to =
starting =3D
>from =3D3D
> >scratch and
> > =3D3D3D
> > >possibly=3D3D3D20
> > >doing the antipace thing.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>I'm getting pretty =
good =3D
>at it. I
> =3D3D
> >=3D3D3D
> > >have Mec 1=3D3D3D20
> > >loaded with cards attached to what has always</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>been Card A for =
three =3D
>years. Can
> =3D3D
> >=3D3D3D
> > >that change?=3D3D3D20
> > >Paris works fine with just that one. I'll try </FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>all the others in =
that =3D
>=3D3D
> ></FONT><FONT =3D3D3D
> > >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D3D20
> > >size=3D3D3D3D2>position just to see though.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>I am close to =
starting =3D
>from =3D3D
> >scratch and
> > =3D3D3D
> > >possibly=3D3D3D20
> > >doing the antipace thing. How could that be </FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>the evil that =
won't allow
=3D
>=3D3D
> >hardware to =3D3D3D
> > >show=3D3D3D20
> > >up?</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> > ><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20
> > >style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; =
MARGIN-LEFT: =3D
>5px; =3D3D
> >=3D3D3D
> > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > > <DIV>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message =
<A
=3D
>=3D3D
> >=3D3D3D
> > >
> > > =3D
=
>href=3D3D3D3D"news:4696229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Have you tested =
each =3D
>MEC =3D3D3D
> > >individually? I'd start=3D3D3D20
> > > there. Did you iuninstall/reinstall Paris yet?</FONT></DIV>
> > > <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20
> > > style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; =
MARGIN-LEFT:
=3D
>5px;
> =3D3D
> >=3D3D3D
> > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D3D20
> > > =3D
>href=3D3D3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
=3D3D
> >=3D3D3D
> > >wrote in=3D3D3D20
> > > message <A =3D3D3D
> > =
>href=3D3D3D3D"news:4695d5bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Sorry to shout =
but =3D
>this is =3D3D
> >driving
> > =3D3D3D
> > >me=3D3D3D20
> > > insane.</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>I am working =
with a =3D
>cloned =3D3D
> >drive =3D3D3D
> > >that used to=3D3D3D20
> > > work with</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>2 Mecs and WC. =
=3D
></FONT><FONT
> =3D3D
> >=3D3D3D
> > >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D3D2>Now no matter what I do, I can =
not</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>get a second =
Mec to =3D
>show up
> =3D3D
> >and =3D3D3D
> > >receive=3D3D3D20
> > > clock. It</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>doesn't matter =
if =3D
>it's at =3D3D
> >the end =3D3D3D
> > >of the line=3D3D3D20
> > > or anywhere</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>else. It =
doesn't =3D
>matter if =3D3D
> >=3D3D3D
> > >it's=3D3D3D20
> > > internally clocked or externally</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>clocked. I've =
changed
=3D
>Mecs,
> =3D3D
> >=3D3D3D
> > >clock cables,=3D3D3D20
> > > SCSI cables</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>and no =
changes. I've
=3D
>even =3D3D
> >=3D3D3D
> > >tried a=3D3D3D20
> > > reinstall of Paris.</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Same deal. =3D
></FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>I must be =
doing =3D
>something =3D3D
> >totally =3D3D3D
> > >wrong for=3D3D3D20
> > > this to continue.</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>The only thing =
else I
=3D
>can =3D3D
> >think to
> > =3D3D3D
> > >try is=3D3D3D20
> > > swapping the last </FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>EDS card with =
another
=3D
>or go
> =3D3D
> >down to
> > =3D3D3D
> > >four. =3D3D3D20
> > > Maybe it's</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>card 5? Or, =
triple =3D
>check the
> =3D3D
> >=3D3D3D
> > >connectors=3D3D3D20
> > > between all the cards</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>again.</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>All EDS cards =
are up
=3D
>and =3D3D
> >running =3D3D3D
> > >and play audio=3D3D3D20
> > > with Paris effects.</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>All 5 cards =
share 3 =3D
>IRQs =3D3D
> >with =3D3D3D
> > >nothing=3D3D3D20
> > > else.</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>What else is =
=3D3D
> >there?</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>Sadly,</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT size=3D3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft =
Lockspam to
=3D
>fight
> =3D3D
> >=3D3D3D
> > >spam, and=3D3D3D20
> > > you?<BR><A=3D3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D
> > =3D3D
> =3D
=
>>>href=3D3D3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.=
com=3D
>/re=3D3D
> >fer=3D3D3D
> > >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY>=3D3D3D
> > ></HTML>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> ><HTML><HEAD>
> ><META http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html; =
=3D3D
> >charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1">
> ><META content=3D3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3D3DGENERATOR>
> ><STYLE></STYLE>
> ></HEAD>
> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Hey Rod,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Ya I've been swapping =
things out
=3D
>to no
> =3D3D
> >end just to=3D3D20
> >be sure.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I even had trouble =
getting it =3D
>going =3D3D
> >with internal=3D3D20
> >clock which ruled</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>out the Lucid in my =3D
>mind.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>The latest news is I =
couldn't =3D
>get it to
> =3D3D
> >boot at all=3D3D20
> >with other Mecs</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>being the master. In the =
process
=3D
>=3D3D
> >I smoked the=3D3D20
> >original Mec A</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>because the SCSI cable =
was half
=3D
>in at =3D3D
> >start=3D3D20
> >up. I heard a crack</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>and then the smell of =
burning =3D
>=3D3D
> >chips. It still=3D3D20
> >powers up but it's out</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>of the picture now. =
Loaded with
=3D
>=3D3D
> >modules=3D3D20
> >too.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Now nothing gets it going =
except
=3D
>maybe
> =3D3D
> >the lowly=3D3D20
> >442. I'll try</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>that next. I have a local =
=3D3D
> >engineer coming=3D3D20
> >over to see what </FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Paris can do. He's very =
well =3D3D
> >respected in=3D3D20
> >these parts.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>To bad I'm down for the =
count =3D
>it=3D3D20
> >seems.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Ass</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20
> >style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px; =3D
>=3D3D
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=3D3D20
> > =3D3D
> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com=
</A=3D
>>&g=3D3D
> >t;=3D3D20
> > wrote in message <A=3D3D20
> > =3D3D
> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D3D"news:4696c93b$1@linux">news:4696c93b$1@linux</A>...</DIV><B=
R>T=3D
>om,=3D3D
> > have=3D3D20
> > you done anything to rule out the possibility that it may be a =
=3D3D
> >funky<BR>MEC=3D3D20
> > word clock connection, or perhaps the Lucid clock is flakey. Or =
=3D3D
> >even<BR>a bad=3D3D20
> > mogami wordclock cable (I know that's a longshot, but =3D
>anything's=3D3D20
> > possible)<BR>Just a thought.<BR>Rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D20
> > =
href=3D3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D3D20
> > wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Deej,<BR>>Ya, I've uninstalled, =3D3D
> >reinstalled=3D3D20
> > Paris about five times total in the =3D3D3D<BR>>last day and a =
=3D3D
> >half.<BR>>I am=3D3D20
> > close to starting from scratch and possibly doing the =
antipace=3D3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>thing.<BR>>I'm getting pretty good at it. I have =
=3D3D
> >Mec 1=3D3D20
> > loaded with cards attached<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>to what has =3D3D
> >always<BR>>been Card A=3D3D20
> > for three years. Can that change? Paris works fine with =3D3D
> >just<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>that=3D3D20
> > one. I'll try=3D3D3D20<BR>>all the others in that position just =
=3D3D
> >to see=3D3D20
> > though.<BR>><BR>>I am close to starting from scratch and =3D3D
> >possibly doing=3D3D20
> > the antipace =3D3D3D<BR>>thing. How could that =
be=3D3D3D20<BR>>the =3D3D
> >evil that=3D3D20
> > won't allow hardware to show =3D3D
> >up?<BR>>Thanks,<BR>>Tom<BR>> "DJ"=3D3D20
> > <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message=3D3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>news:4696229c$1@linux...<BR>> Have you tested each =
=3D3D
> >MEC=3D3D20
> > individually? I'd start there. Did you =3D
>=3D3D3D<BR>>iuninstall/reinstall =3D3D
> >Paris=3D3D20
> > yet?<BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D20
> > href=3D3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
=3D
>wrote =3D3D
> >in message=3D3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>news:4695d5bf@linux...<BR>> Sorry to =3D3D
> >shout but=3D3D20
> > this is driving me insane.<BR>><BR>> I am =3D3D
> >working with=3D3D20
> > a cloned drive that used to work with<BR>> 2 Mecs =3D3D
> >and=3D3D20
> > WC. Now no matter what I do, I can not<BR>> =3D3D
> >get a=3D3D20
> > second Mec to show up and receive clock. =3D3D
> >It<BR>> =3D3D20
> > doesn't matter if it's at the end of the line or=3D3D20
> > anywhere<BR>> else. It doesn't matter if =3D3D
> >it's=3D3D20
> > internally clocked or externally<BR>> =3D3D
> >clocked. I've=3D3D20
> > changed Mecs, clock cables, SCSI cables<BR>> and =3D3D
> >no=3D3D20
> > changes. I've even tried a reinstall of =3D3D
> >Paris.<BR>> =3D3D20
> > Same deal. =3D3D3D20<BR>><BR>> I must be doing =3D3D
> >something=3D3D20
> > totally wrong for this to continue.<BR>> The only =3D3D
> >thing=3D3D20
> > else I can think to try is swapping the =3D3D
> >last=3D3D3D20<BR>> EDS=3D3D20
> > card with another or go down to four. Maybe=3D3D20
> > it's<BR>> card 5? Or, triple check the =3D3D
> >connectors=3D3D20
> > between all the cards<BR>> =3D3D20
> > again.<BR>><BR>> All EDS cards are up and =3D3D
> >running and=3D3D20
> > play audio with Paris effects.<BR>> All 5 cards =3D3D
> >share 3=3D3D20
> > IRQs with nothing else.<BR>> What else is=3D3D20
> > there?<BR>> Sadly,<BR>> =3D3D20
> > Tom<BR>><BR>><BR>> I choose Polesoft =3D3D
> >Lockspam to=3D3D20
> > fight spam, and you?<BR>> <A=3D3D20
> > =3D3D
> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com=
/re=3D
>fer=3D3D
> >.html</A> =3D3D20
> > <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D3D20
> > Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=3D3D20
> > http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type =
content=3D3D3D3D"text/html;=3D3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =3D3D
> >content=3D3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D3D20
> > 6.00.2800.1400"=3D3D20
> > =3D3D
> >name=3D3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=3D3D
> >D><BR>><BODY=3D3D20
> > bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > =3D3D
> >size=3D3D3D3D2>Deej,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Ya, I've uninstalled, =3D
>reinstalled=3D3D20
> > Paris<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>about five=3D3D3D20<BR>>times total in the =
last =3D
>day =3D3D
> >and a=3D3D20
> > half.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D3D
> >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2>I am close to starting from scratch=3D3D20
> > and<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>possibly=3D3D3D20<BR>>doing the =
antipace=3D3D20
> > thing.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D3D
> >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2>I'm getting pretty good at it. I =3D3D3D<BR>>have =
=3D
>Mec=3D3D20
> > 1=3D3D3D20<BR>>loaded with cards attached to what has=3D3D20
> > always</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D3D
> >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2>been Card A for three years. Can =
=3D3D3D<BR>>that=3D3D20
> > change?=3D3D3D20<BR>>Paris works fine with just that one. I'll =
=3D
>try=3D3D20
> > </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2>all the others in that </FONT><FONT=3D3D20
> > =
=3D3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D3D20<BR>>size=3D3D3D3D2 >position just =
to
=3D
>=3D3D
> >see=3D3D20
> > though.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D3D
> >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D3D
> >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2>I am close to starting from scratch=3D3D20
> > and<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>possibly=3D3D3D20<BR>>doing the antipace =
thing. How
=3D
>=3D3D
> >could that be=3D3D20
> > </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2>the evil that won't allow hardware to=3D3D20
> > =3D3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>show=3D3D3D20<BR>>up?</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV&g=3D3D
> >t;<FONT=3D3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > =3D3D
> >size=3D3D3D3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D3D
> >=3D3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D3D
> >size=3D3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20
> > dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; =
=3D
>PADDING-LEFT: =3D3D
> >5px;=3D3D20
> > MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; =
=3D3D
> >MARGIN-RIGHT:=3D3D20
> > 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot =3D3D
> >_=3D3D20
> > net> wrote in message <A =3D3D3D<BR>><BR>> =
href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> > =3D3D
> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D3D'news:4696229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1@linux</A>...</DIV'>n=
ews=3D
>:46=3D3D
> >96229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>=3D3D
> >> =3D3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Have you tested =
each =3D3D
> >MEC=3D3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>individually? I'd start=3D3D3D20<BR>> there. Did =
you=3D3D20
> > iuninstall/reinstall Paris yet?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> >
> > <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
> >style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;=3D3D20
> > PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: =
#000000
=3D
>=3D3D
> >2px solid;=3D3D20
> > MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Tom =3D3D
> >Bruhl"=3D3D20
> > <<A=3D3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> > =3D3D
> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:=
arp=3D
>egi=3D3D
> >o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>wrote in=3D3D3D20<BR>> message <A=3D3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> > =3D3D
> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D3D'news:4695d5bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:=
469=3D
>5d5=3D3D
> >bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=3D3D
> >p; =3D3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Sorry to shout but =
=3D3D
> >this is=3D3D20
> > driving<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>me=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> > insane.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> ><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D3D
> ></DIV><BR>> =3D3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>I am working with a =
=3D3D
> >cloned drive=3D3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>that used to=3D3D3D20<BR>> work=3D3D20
> > with</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> ><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>2 Mecs and WC. =
</FONT><FONT=3D3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
> >size=3D3D3D3D2>Now no matter=3D3D20
> > what I do, I can =3D3D
> >not</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>get a second Mec to =
=3D3D
> >show up and=3D3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>receive=3D3D3D20<BR>> clock.=3D3D20
> > It</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> ><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>doesn't matter if it's at the =
end =3D3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>of the=3D3D20
> > line=3D3D3D20<BR>> or=3D3D20
> > anywhere</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>else. It doesn't =
=3D3D
> >matter if=3D3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>it's=3D3D3D20<BR>> internally clocked or=3D3D20
> > externally</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>clocked. I've =
changed =3D3D
> >Mecs,=3D3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>clock cables,=3D3D3D20<BR>> SCSI=3D3D20
> > cables</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> ><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>and no changes. I've even =
=3D3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>tried=3D3D20
> > a=3D3D3D20<BR>> reinstall of=3D3D20
> > Paris.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> ><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Same deal.=3D3D20
> > </FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> ><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D3D
> ></DIV><BR>> =3D3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>I must be doing =
=3D3D
> >something totally=3D3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>wrong for=3D3D3D20<BR>> this to=3D3D20
> > continue.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>The only thing else =
I =3D3D
> >can think=3D3D20
> > to<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>try is=3D3D3D20<BR>> swapping the =3D3D
> >last=3D3D20
> > </FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> ><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>EDS card with another or go =
down =3D3D
> >to<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>four.=3D3D20
> > =3D3D3D20<BR>> Maybe=3D3D20
> > it's</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> ><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>card 5? Or, triple check =
the=3D3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>connectors=3D3D3D20<BR>> between all the=3D3D20
> > cards</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> ><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > =3D3D
> >size=3D3D3D3D2>again.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D3D20
> > </DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D3D
> >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2>All EDS cards are up and running =3D3D3D<BR>>and =
=3D
>play=3D3D20
> > audio=3D3D3D20<BR>> with Paris=3D3D20
> > effects.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>All 5 cards share 3 =
=3D3D
> >IRQs with=3D3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>nothing=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> > else.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> ><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>What else is=3D3D20
> > there?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> ><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > =3D3D
> >size=3D3D3D3D2>Sadly,</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D20
> > <DIV><FONT size=3D3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose =3D3D
> >Polesoft Lockspam=3D3D20
> > to fight =3D3D3D<BR>>spam, and=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> > you?<BR><A=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> > =3D3D
> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com=
/re=3D
>fer=3D3D
> =3D
=
>>'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=3D=
3D=3D
>
> >>=3D3D3D<BR>>.html</A>=3D3D20
> > =3D3D
> ></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY&=3D3D
> =
>gt;=3D3D3D<BR>></HTML><BR>><BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY ></HTML=3D3D
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
><HTML><HEAD>
><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
><STYLE></STYLE>
></HEAD>
><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Well here's what is =3D
>happening.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I looked very closely at the =
pins on =3D
>the scsi=3D20
>cables and noticed</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>a slightly bent one or two on =
almost =3D
>half of them=3D20
>(5). I think it's</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>from being careless about =
pushing them
=3D
>in. I=3D20
>straightened them</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>perfectly and yet still no luck =
with =3D
>booting=3D20
>Paris. "No interface attached</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>to the Master Card" is the =3D
>message. I'm only=3D20
>using one mec to test.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I also tried the 442. Once in a =
=3D
>while the=3D20
>Magma wouldn't turn on with the</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>442 attached. I think that is =
=3D
>because of the=3D20
>bent pins. That's good of</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>the Magma. </FONT><FONT =3D
>face=3D3DArial=3D20
>size=3D3D2>I've tried all five cards, removed the A card and swapped =
it=3D20
></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>with another </FONT><FONT =
face=3D3DArial
=3D
>size=3D3D2>still=3D20
>no luck. </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm lost in this quagmire now. =
=3D
>I'm not even=3D20
>pissed about the busted mec</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>at this point. I want an answer =
=3D
>to what is=3D20
>going on. The default project </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>is looking for external word =
clock so =3D
>that's my=3D20
>only choice although I</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>have tried it with no Lucid =
attached =3D
>with the same=3D20
>results.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I think I'll call =
Edmund.</FONT></DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
=3D
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.r.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.r.com</A>>=
=3D
> wrote=3D20
> in message <A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"news:469708c8$1@linux">news:469708c8$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>T=
hat=3D
> kinda=3D20
> totally sucks. Sorry.<BR>rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20
> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Hey Rod,<BR>>Ya I've been swapping =3D
>things out=3D20
> to no end just to be sure.<BR>>I even had trouble getting it going =
=3D
>with=3D20
> internal clock which ruled<BR>>out the Lucid in my =3D
>mind.<BR>><BR>>The=3D20
> latest news is I couldn't get it to boot at all with other =3D
>Mecs<BR>>being=3D20
> the master. In the process I smoked the original Mec =3D
>A<BR>>because=3D20
> the SCSI cable was half in at start up. I heard a =3D
>crack<BR>>and then=3D20
> the smell of burning chips. It still powers up but it's =3D
>out<BR>>of=3D20
> the picture now. Loaded with modules too.<BR>><BR>>Now =3D
>nothing=3D20
> gets it going except maybe the lowly 442. I'll try<BR>>that=3D20
> next. I have a local engineer coming over to see =3D
>what=3D3D20<BR>>Paris=3D20
> can do. He's very well respected in these parts.<BR>>To bad =3D
>I'm down=3D20
> for the count it seems.<BR>>Ass<BR>><BR>> "Rod Lincoln" =3D
><<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A=
>&g=3D
>t;=3D20
> wrote in message =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>news:4696c93b$1@linux...<BR>><BR>> Tom,=3D20
> have you done anything to rule out the possibility that it may=3D20
> be<BR>=3D3D<BR>>a funky<BR>> MEC word clock connection, or =3D
>perhaps the=3D20
> Lucid clock is flakey. Or =3D3D<BR>>even<BR>> a bad mogami =3D
>wordclock=3D20
> cable (I know that's a longshot, but=3D20
> anything's<BR>=3D3D<BR>>possible)<BR>> Just a =3D
>thought.<BR>> =3D20
> Rod<BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20
> wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> =3D20
> >Deej,<BR>> >Ya, I've uninstalled, reinstalled Paris =3D
>about five=3D20
> times total in the<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >last day and =3D
>a=3D20
> half.<BR>> >I am close to starting from scratch and =3D
>possibly doing=3D20
> the antipace =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >thing.<BR>> =3D
>>I'm=3D20
> getting pretty good at it. I have Mec 1 loaded with cards=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>attached<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>> >to what has=3D20
> always<BR>> >been Card A for three years. Can that change? =3D
>Paris=3D20
> works fine with =3D3D<BR>>just<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
>>that=3D20
> one. I'll try=3D3D3D20<BR>> >all the others in that =3D
>position=3D20
> just to see though.<BR>> ><BR>> >I am close to =3D
>
> starting from scratch and possibly doing the antipace=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >thing. How could that=3D20
> be=3D3D3D20<BR>> >the evil that won't allow hardware to show =3D
>
> up?<BR>> >Thanks,<BR>> >Tom<BR>> =3D
>> =3D20
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message=3D20
> =3D3D3D<BR>> >news:4696229c$1@linux...<BR>> =3D
>> Have=3D20
> you tested each MEC individually? I'd start there. Did you =3D
>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> >iuninstall/reinstall Paris yet?<BR>> =3D
>> "Tom=3D20
> Bruhl" <<A =3D
>href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20
> wrote in message =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
>>news:4695d5bf@linux...<BR>> =3D20
> > Sorry to shout but this is driving me=3D20
> insane.<BR>> ><BR>> > I am =3D
>working=3D20
> with a cloned drive that used to work with<BR>> =3D20
> > 2 Mecs and WC. Now no matter what I do, I =3D
>can=3D20
> not<BR>> > get a second Mec to show up =3D
>and=3D20
> receive clock. It<BR>> > doesn't =3D
>matter if=3D20
> it's at the end of the line or anywhere<BR>> =3D
>> =3D20
> else. It doesn't matter if it's internally clocked or=3D20
> externally<BR>> > clocked. I've =3D
>changed=3D20
> Mecs, clock cables, SCSI cables<BR>> > =3D
>and no=3D20
> changes. I've even tried a reinstall of Paris.<BR>> =3D20
> > Same deal. =3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>><BR>> =3D20
> > I must be doing something totally wrong for =3D
>this to=3D20
> continue.<BR>> > The only thing else I =3D
>can think=3D20
> to try is swapping the last=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>> EDS card=3D20
> with another or go down to four. Maybe it's<BR>> =3D20
> > card 5? Or, triple check the connectors =3D
>between=3D20
> all the cards<BR>> > =3D
>again.<BR>> =3D20
> ><BR>> > All EDS cards are up and =3D
>running and=3D20
> play audio with Paris =3D3D<BR>>effects.<BR>> =3D
>> =3D20
> All 5 cards share 3 IRQs with nothing else.<BR>> =3D20
> > What else is there?<BR>> =3D20
> > Sadly,<BR>> > =3D20
> Tom<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> =3D
>> =3D20
> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?<BR>> =3D20
> > <A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
fer=3D
>.html</A> =3D20
> =3D3D20<BR>> ><BR>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC =3D
>"-//W3C//DTD=3D20
> HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"><BR>> =3D20
> ><HTML><HEAD><BR>> ><META=3D20
> http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D3D"text/html; =3D
>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> >charset=3D3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>> ><META =3D
>content=3D3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20
> 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>> =3D20
> ><STYLE></STYLE><BR>> =3D
>></HEAD><BR>> =3D20
> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>> =3D
>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
>size=3D3D3D3D2>Deej,</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Ya, I've =3D
>uninstalled,=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>reinstalled Paris<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
>>about=3D20
> five=3D3D3D20<BR>> >times total in the last day and a=3D20
> half.</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>I am close to starting from =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>scratch=3D20
> and<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
>>possibly=3D3D3D20<BR>> >doing=3D20
> the antipace thing.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>I'm getting =3D
>pretty good=3D20
> at it. I<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >have Mec =3D
>1=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> >loaded with cards attached to what has=3D20
> always</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>been Card A for three years.=3D20
> Can<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >that =3D
>change?=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> >Paris works fine with just that one. I'll try=3D20
> </FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D3D2>all the others in that =3D
>=3D3D<BR>></FONT><FONT=3D20
> =3D3D3D<BR>> >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> >size=3D3D3D3D2>position just to see=3D20
> though.</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT =3D
>
> face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D
></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>I am close to =3D
>starting=3D20
> from =3D3D<BR>>scratch and<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> >possibly=3D3D3D20<BR>> >doing the antipace thing. How =3D
>could that=3D20
> be </FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>the evil that won't allow =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>hardware to=3D20
> =3D3D3D<BR>> >show=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> >up?</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT =3D
>
> face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
>size=3D3D3D3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20<BR>> >style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =3D
>0px;=3D20
> PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: =3D
>0px"><BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> =3D
>wrote in=3D20
> message <A =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> ><BR>> =3D
>> =3D20
> href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D'news:4696229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1@linux</A>...</DIV'>news=
:46=3D
>96229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>=3D
>> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Have =3D
>you tested=3D20
> each MEC =3D3D3D<BR>> >individually? I'd =3D
>start=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > there. Did you iuninstall/reinstall Paris=3D20
> yet?</FONT></DIV><BR>> > <BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D
>style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;=3D20
> PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
>
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: =3D
>0px"><BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" =3D
><<A=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arp=
egi=3D
>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >wrote in=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > message <A =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
>>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D'news:4695d5bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:469=
5d5=3D
>bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=3D
>p;=3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
>size=3D3D3D3D2>Sorry=3D20
> to shout but this is =3D3D<BR>>driving<BR>> =3D
>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> >me=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D20
> insane.</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20
> </DIV><BR>> > <DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>I am working with a cloned =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>drive=3D20
> =3D3D3D<BR>> >that used to=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>> =3D20
> work with</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>2 Mecs and WC.=3D20
> </FONT><FONT<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D
>size=3D3D3D3D2>Now=3D20
> no matter what I do, I can not</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
>size=3D3D3D3D2>get a=3D20
> second Mec to show up<BR>=3D3D<BR>>and =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> >receive=3D3D3D20<BR>> > clock.=3D20
> It</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>doesn't matter if =3D
>it's at=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>the end =3D3D3D<BR>> >of the =3D
>line=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > or =3D
>anywhere</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
>size=3D3D3D3D2>else.=3D20
> It doesn't matter if =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
>>it's=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > internally clocked or=3D20
> externally</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>clocked. I've =3D
>changed=3D20
> Mecs,<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >clock =3D
>cables,=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > SCSI =3D
>cables</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
>size=3D3D3D3D2>and no=3D20
> changes. I've even =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >tried =3D
>a=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > reinstall of=3D20
> Paris.</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Same deal.=3D20
> </FONT></DIV><BR>> > =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20
> </DIV><BR>> > <DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>I must be doing something =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>totally=3D20
> =3D3D3D<BR>> >wrong for=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>> this=3D20
> to continue.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>The only thing =3D
>else I can=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>think to<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>> >try=3D20
> is=3D3D3D20<BR>> > swapping the last=3D20
> </FONT></DIV><BR>> > =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>EDS card with =3D
>another or=3D20
> go<BR>=3D3D<BR>>down to<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>> >four.=3D20
> =3D3D3D20<BR>> > Maybe=3D20
> it's</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>card 5? Or, =3D
>triple check=3D20
> the<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
>>connectors=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > between all the=3D20
> cards</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D3D2>again.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D
>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>All EDS cards are =3D
>up and=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>running =3D3D3D<BR>> >and play =3D
>audio=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > with Paris=3D20
> effects.</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =3D
>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>All 5 cards share =3D
>3 IRQs=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>with =3D3D3D<BR>> >nothing=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > else.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
>size=3D3D3D3D2>What=3D20
> else is =3D3D<BR>>there?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D3D2>Sadly,</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT =3D
>size=3D3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I=3D20
> choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
>>spam,=3D20
> and=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D20
> you?<BR><A=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D20
> =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
'>h=3D
=
>ttp://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re</A>=3D3D<B=
=3D
>R>>fer=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> >.html</A>=3D20
> =3D
></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY&=3D
>gt;=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> ></HTML><BR>> ><BR>> =3D20
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>4.0=3D20
> Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=3D20
> http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html;=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =3D
>content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20
> 6.00.2800.1400"=3D20
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>name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=3D
>D><BR>><BODY=3D20
> bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =3D
>size=3D3D3D2>Hey=3D20
> Rod,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>Ya I've been swapping things out to =
no<BR>=3D3D<BR>>end =3D
>just=3D20
> to=3D3D20<BR>>be =3D
>sure.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I even had trouble getting it going =
=3D
>=3D3D<BR>>with=3D20
> internal=3D3D20<BR>>clock which=3D20
> ruled</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>out the Lucid in my=3D20
> mind.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>The latest news is I couldn't get it =3D
>to<BR>=3D3D<BR>>boot at=3D20
> all=3D3D20<BR>>with other=3D20
> Mecs</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>being the master. In the process =3D3D<BR>>I =
smoked=3D20
> the=3D3D20<BR>>original Mec=3D20
> A</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>because the SCSI cable was half in at =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>start=3D3D20<BR>>up.=3D20
> I heard a crack</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>and then the smell of burning =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>chips. It=3D20
> still=3D3D20<BR>>powers up but it's=3D20
> out</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =3D
>
> size=3D3D3D2>of the picture now. Loaded with=3D20
> =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>modules=3D3D20<BR>>too.</FONT></DIV><BR>><D=3D
>IV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D
></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Now nothing gets it going except=3D20
> maybe<BR>=3D3D<BR>>the lowly=3D3D20<BR>>442. I'll=3D20
> try</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =3D
>
> size=3D3D3D2>that next. I have a local =3D3D<BR>>engineer =3D
>coming=3D3D20<BR>>over=3D20
> to see what </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>Paris can do. He's very well =3D3D<BR>>respected =3D
>in=3D3D20<BR>>these=3D20
> parts.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>To bad I'm down for the count=3D20
> =3D
>it=3D3D20<BR>>seems.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D
>=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>Ass</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20
> =3D
></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =3D
>0px;=3D20
> PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 =
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>2px solid;=3D20
> MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Rod Lincoln"=3D20
> <<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> =3D
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>href=3D3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A=
>&a=3D
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>mp;g'>mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</=3D
>A>&g</A>=3D3D<BR>>t;=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> wrote in message <A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> =3D
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>href=3D3D'news:4696c93b$1@linux">news:4696c93b$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>T=
om'=3D
>>news:4696c93b$1@linux">news:4696c93b$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=3D
><BR>Tom</A>,=3D3D<BR>>=3D20
> have=3D3D20<BR>> you done anything to rule out the possibility =3D
>that it=3D20
> may be a =3D3D<BR>>funky<BR>MEC=3D3D20<BR>> word clock =3D
>connection,=3D20
> or perhaps the Lucid clock is flakey. Or =3D3D<BR>>even<BR>a=3D20
> bad=3D3D20<BR>> mogami wordclock cable (I know that's a =3D
>longshot, but=3D20
> anything's=3D3D20<BR>> possible)<BR>Just a=3D20
> thought.<BR>Rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl" =3D
><<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D3D20'>m=
ailto=3D
>:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D3D20</A><BR>&g=3D
>t; =3D20
> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Deej,<BR>>Ya, =3D
>I've=3D20
> uninstalled, =3D3D<BR>>reinstalled=3D3D20<BR>> Paris about =3D
>five times=3D20
> total in the =3D3D3D<BR>>last day and a =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>half.<BR>>I=3D20
> am=3D3D20<BR>> close to starting from scratch and possibly =3D
>doing the=3D20
> antipace=3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>>thing.<BR>>I'm =3D
>getting=3D20
> pretty good at it. I have =3D3D<BR>>Mec 1=3D3D20<BR>> loaded =3D
>with cards=3D20
> attached<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>to what has=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>always<BR>>been Card A=3D3D20<BR>> for =3D
>three years. Can=3D20
> that change? Paris works fine with=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>just<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>that=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>one. I'll=3D20
> try=3D3D3D20<BR>>all the others in that position just =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>to=3D20
> see=3D3D20<BR>> though.<BR>><BR>>I am close =3D
>to starting=3D20
> from scratch and =3D3D<BR>>possibly doing=3D3D20<BR>> the =3D
>antipace=3D20
> =3D3D3D<BR>>thing. How could that be=3D3D3D20<BR>>the =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>evil=3D20
> that=3D3D20<BR>> won't allow hardware to show=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>up?<BR>>Thanks,<BR>>Tom<BR>>=3D20
> "DJ"=3D3D20<BR>> <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote =3D
>in=3D20
> message=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> =3D3D3D<BR>>news:4696229c$1@linux...<BR>> Have you =3D
>tested each=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>MEC=3D3D20<BR>> individually? I'd start there. Did =3D
>you=3D20
> =3D3D3D<BR>>iuninstall/reinstall =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>Paris=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> yet?<BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arp=
egi=3D
>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D20
> wrote =3D3D<BR>>in message=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> =3D3D3D<BR>>news:4695d5bf@linux...<BR>> Sorry to =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>shout=3D20
> but=3D3D20<BR>> this is driving me =3D
>insane.<BR>><BR>> I=3D20
> am =3D3D<BR>>working with=3D3D20<BR>> a cloned drive that used =3D
>to work=3D20
> with<BR>> 2 Mecs =3D3D<BR>>and=3D3D20<BR>> WC. Now no =3D
>matter what=3D20
> I do, I can not<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>get a=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>second Mec to=3D20
> show up and receive clock. =3D3D<BR>>It<BR>> =3D
>=3D3D20<BR>> doesn't=3D20
> matter if it's at the end of the line or=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> anywhere<BR>> else. It doesn't matter if=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>it's=3D3D20<BR>> internally clocked or =3D
>externally<BR>>=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>clocked. I've=3D3D20<BR>> changed Mecs, clock =3D
>cables, SCSI=3D20
> cables<BR>> and =3D3D<BR>>no=3D3D20<BR>> changes. =3D
>I've even tried=3D20
> a reinstall of =3D3D<BR>>Paris.<BR>> =3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>Same deal.=3D20
> =3D3D3D20<BR>><BR>> I must be doing=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>something=3D3D20<BR>> totally wrong for this to=3D20
> continue.<BR>> The only =3D3D<BR>>thing=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>else I can=3D20
> think to try is swapping the =3D3D<BR>>last=3D3D3D20<BR>>=3D20
> EDS=3D3D20<BR>> card with another or go down to four.=3D20
> Maybe=3D3D20<BR>> it's<BR>> card 5? Or, triple check =3D
>the=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>connectors=3D3D20<BR>> between all the =3D
>cards<BR>>=3D20
> =3D3D20<BR>> again.<BR>><BR>> All EDS cards =3D
>are up and=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>running and=3D3D20<BR>> play audio with Paris=3D20
> effects.<BR>> All 5 cards =3D3D<BR>>share =3D
>3=3D3D20<BR>> IRQs with=3D20
> nothing else.<BR>> What else is=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>there?<BR>>=3D20
> Sadly,<BR>> =3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> Tom<BR>><BR>><BR>> I choose Polesoft=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>Lockspam to=3D3D20<BR>> fight spam, and =3D
>you?<BR>>=3D20
> <A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> =3D
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>href=3D3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
fer=3D
=
>'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=3D=
>>=3D3D<BR>>.html</A>=3D20
> =3D3D20<BR>> <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML =3D
>PUBLIC=3D20
> "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> =3D
>Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>>=3D
><META=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type =3D
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> =3D3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =3D
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> =3D3D<BR>>content=3D3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>6.00.2800.1400"=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>name=3D3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE&=3D
>gt;<BR>></HEA=3D3D<BR>>D><BR>><BODY=3D3D20<BR>&=3D
>gt; =3D20
> bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D3D2>Deej,</FONT></DIV><BR>>&l=3D
>t;DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Ya, I've uninstalled,=3D20
> reinstalled=3D3D20<BR>> Paris<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>about =3D
>
> five=3D3D3D20<BR>>times total in the last day =3D3D<BR>>and=3D20
> a=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> half.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D3D2>I am =3D
>close to starting=3D20
> from scratch=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> and<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>possibly=3D3D3D20<BR>>doing the =3D
>
> antipace=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> thing.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D3D2>I'm =3D
>getting pretty good=3D20
> at it. I =3D3D3D<BR>>have Mec=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>1=3D3D3D20<BR>>loaded=3D20
> with cards attached to what has=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> always</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D3D2>been =3D
>Card A for three=3D20
> years. Can =3D3D3D<BR>>that=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> change?=3D3D3D20<BR>>Paris works fine with just that one. I'll=3D20
> try=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D3D2>all the others in =3D
>that=3D20
> </FONT><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> =3D
>=3D3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D3D20<BR>>size=3D3D3D3D2 >p=3D
>osition just=3D20
> to =3D3D<BR>>see=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> though.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20
> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D3D2>I am =3D
>close to starting=3D20
> from scratch=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> and<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>possibly=3D3D3D20<BR>>doing the =3D
>antipace=3D20
> thing. How =3D3D<BR>>could that be=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D3D2>the evil that =3D
>won't allow=3D20
> hardware to=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>show=3D3D3D20<BR>>up?</FONT>&l=3D
>t;/DIV><BR>><DIV&g=3D3D<BR>>t;<FONT=3D3D20<BR>>&n=3D
>bsp;=3D20
> face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV><BR>>=3D
><DIV><FONT=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><=3D
>BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; =3D
>PADDING-LEFT:=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>5px;=3D3D20<BR>> MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D
>=3D3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT:=3D20
> #000000 2px solid; =3D3D<BR>>MARGIN-RIGHT:=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>_=3D3D20<BR>> net> wrote in message <A=3D20
> =3D3D3D<BR>><BR>> href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>
> =3D
=
>=3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D'news:4696229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1@linux</=3D
>A>...</DIV'>news:46=3D3D<BR>>96229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1=3D
>@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>=3D3D<BR>>>=3D20
> =3D3D20<BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
>size=3D3D3D3D2>Have you=3D20
> tested each =3D3D<BR>>MEC=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>=3D3D3D<BR>>individually? I'd=3D20
> start=3D3D3D20<BR>> there. Did you=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>iuninstall/reinstall=3D20
> Paris yet?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
>=3D3D<BR>><BR>> =3D20
> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20<BR>>=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>PADDING-LEFT: 5px;=3D20
> MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>2px=3D20
> solid;=3D3D20<BR>> MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> =3D
><DIV>"Tom=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>Bruhl"=3D3D20<BR>> <<A=3D3D3D20<BR>>=3D20
> href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> =3D
=
>=3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net&l=3D=
>t;/A'>mailto:arpegi=3D3D<BR>>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net<=3D
>;/A</A>>>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> =3D3D3D<BR>>wrote in=3D3D3D20<BR>> message =3D
><A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> =3D3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D'news:4695d5bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>=3D
>;...</DIV'>news:4695d5=3D3D<BR>>bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux&l=3D
>t;/A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=3D3D<BR>>p;=3D20
> =3D3D20<BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
>size=3D3D3D3D2>Sorry to=3D20
> shout but =3D3D<BR>>this is=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> driving<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>me=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> insane.</FONT></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D3D<BR>></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> =3D3D20<BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
>size=3D3D3D3D2>I am=3D20
> working with a =3D3D<BR>>cloned drive=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>=3D3D3D<BR>>that=3D20
> used to=3D3D3D20<BR>> work=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> with</FONT></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
>size=3D3D3D3D2>2=3D20
> Mecs and WC. </FONT><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> =3D3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D3D2>Now=3D20
> no matter=3D3D20<BR>> what I do, I can=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>not</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>get a second Mec =3D
>to=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>show up and=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> =3D3D3D<BR>>receive=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>clock.=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> It</FONT></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D3D2>doesn't matter if it's at the end =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>of=3D20
> the=3D3D20<BR>> line=3D3D3D20<BR>> or=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>
> anywhere</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>else. It doesn't=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>matter if=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>=3D3D3D<BR>>it's=3D3D3D20<BR>>=3D20
> internally clocked or=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> externally</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>clocked. I've =3D
>changed=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>Mecs,=3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>>clock=3D20
> cables,=3D3D3D20<BR>> SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> cables</FONT></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
>size=3D3D3D3D2>and=3D20
> no changes. I've even =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>tried=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> a=3D3D3D20<BR>> reinstall of=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> Paris.</FONT></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D3D2>Same deal.=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> </FONT></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D3D<BR>></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> =3D3D20<BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
>size=3D3D3D3D2>I must be=3D20
> doing =3D3D<BR>>something totally=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>=3D3D3D<BR>>wrong=3D20
> for=3D3D3D20<BR>> this to=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> continue.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>The only thing =3D
>else I=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>can think=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>to<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>try=3D20
> is=3D3D3D20<BR>> swapping the =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>last=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> </FONT></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
>size=3D3D3D3D2>EDS=3D20
> card with another or go down=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>to<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>four.=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> =3D3D3D20<BR>> Maybe=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> it's</FONT></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D3D2>card 5? Or, triple check the=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> =3D3D3D<BR>>connectors=3D3D3D20<BR>> between all=3D20
> the=3D3D20<BR>> cards</FONT></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D3D2>again.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
>
> =3D3D20<BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> <DIV><FONT =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>size=3D3D3D3D2>All=3D20
> EDS cards are up and running =3D3D3D<BR>>and =3D
>play=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> audio=3D3D3D20<BR>> with Paris=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> effects.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>All 5 cards share =3D
>3=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>IRQs with=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> =3D3D3D<BR>>nothing=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> else.</FONT></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D3D2>What else is=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> there?</FONT></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D3D2>Sadly,</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rod,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That's sounds good. I'll try that =
first. If it doesn't help</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm stripping down to one EDS/Mec and =
build from=20
there</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>if I can. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have been deleting the Scherzo =
drivers so that=20
there is only</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>one for each EDS card. I will =
continue to do=20
that unless you</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>think I should leave 5 Scherzos for one =
EDS=20
card.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
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<DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
t;=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:4697822f$1@linux">news:4697822f$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Tom.=
....you=20
need to hide your default project in a folder, or rename it. =
Make<BR>Paris=20
create it's own when it boots, based on the hardware it see's. =
This<BR>is only=20
during your trouble shooting phase. Once you get everything =
ironed<BR>out, you=20
can put the default ppj back. I ran into this problem when I =
was<BR>trouble=20
shooting a while back.<BR>Rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Well here's what is =
happening.<BR>><BR>>I=20
looked very closely at the pins on the scsi cables and =
noticed<BR>>a=20
slightly bent one or two on almost half of them (5). I think=20
it's<BR>>from being careless about pushing them in. I =
straightened=20
them<BR>>perfectly and yet still no luck with booting Paris. =
"No=20
interface =3D<BR>>attached<BR>>to the Master Card" is the =
message. =20
I'm only using one mec to test.<BR>>I also tried the 442. =
Once in a=20
while the Magma wouldn't turn on with =3D<BR>>the<BR>>442 =
attached. =20
I think that is because of the bent pins. That's good =
of<BR>>the=20
Magma. I've tried all five cards, removed the A card and swapped =
it<BR>=3D<BR>><BR>>with another still no =
luck.=3D20<BR>><BR>>I'm lost=20
in this quagmire now. I'm not even pissed about the busted =
mec<BR>>at=20
this point. I want an answer to what is going on. The =
default=20
=3D<BR>>project=3D20<BR>>is looking for external word clock so =
that's my=20
only choice although I<BR>>have tried it with no Lucid attached =
with the=20
same results.<BR>><BR>>I think I'll call Edmund.<BR>> =
"Rod=20
Lincoln" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.r.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.r.com</A>>=
wrote=20
in message =3D<BR>>news:469708c8$1@linux...<BR>><BR>> =
That kinda=20
totally sucks. Sorry.<BR>> rod<BR>> "Tom Bruhl" =
<<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >Hey=20
Rod,<BR>> >Ya I've been swapping things out to no end just =
to be=20
sure.<BR>> >I even had trouble getting it going with =
internal=20
clock which ruled<BR>> >out the Lucid in my =
mind.<BR>> =20
><BR>> >The latest news is I couldn't get it to boot at =
all=20
with other Mecs<BR>> >being the master. In the =
process I=20
smoked the original Mec A<BR>> >because the SCSI cable was =
half in=20
at start up. I heard a crack<BR>> >and then the =
smell of=20
burning chips. It still powers up but it's out<BR>> =
>of the=20
picture now. Loaded with modules too.<BR>> =
><BR>> =20
>Now nothing gets it going except maybe the lowly 442. I'll=20
try<BR>> >that next. I have a local engineer coming =
over to=20
see what=3D3D20<BR>> >Paris can do. He's very well =
respected=20
in these parts.<BR>> >To bad I'm down for the count it=20
seems.<BR>> >Ass<BR>> ><BR>> =
> "Rod=20
Lincoln" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
t;=20
wrote in message =3D3D<BR>> =
>news:4696c93b$1@linux...<BR>> =20
><BR>> > Tom, have you done anything to rule out =
the=20
possibility that it may<BR>=3D<BR>>be<BR>> =
=3D3D<BR>> >a=20
funky<BR>> > MEC word clock connection, or perhaps =
the Lucid=20
clock is flakey. Or<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =
>even<BR>> =20
> a bad mogami wordclock cable (I know that's a longshot, but =
=3D<BR>>anything's<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =20
>possible)<BR>> > Just a thought.<BR>> =20
> Rod<BR>> > "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>> > ><BR>> > =20
><BR>> > >Deej,<BR>> > =
>Ya, I've=20
uninstalled, reinstalled Paris about five times total=20
in<BR>=3D<BR>>the<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =
>=3D3D3D<BR>> =20
> >last day and a half.<BR>> > >I am =
close to=20
starting from scratch and possibly doing the =3D<BR>>antipace=20
=3D3D<BR>> >=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
>thing.<BR>> =20
> >I'm getting pretty good at it. I have Mec 1 =
loaded with=20
cards =3D3D<BR>> >attached<BR>> > =20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > >to what has always<BR>> =
> =20
>been Card A for three years. Can that change? Paris works fine=20
=3D<BR>>with =3D3D<BR>> >just<BR>> > =20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > >that one. I'll=20
try=3D3D3D20<BR>> > >all the others in that =
position just=20
to see though.<BR>> > ><BR>> > =
>I am=20
close to starting from scratch and possibly doing the =
=3D<BR>>antipace=20
=3D3D<BR>> >=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
>thing. How=20
could that be=3D3D3D20<BR>> > >the evil that =
won't allow=20
hardware to show up?<BR>> > =
>Thanks,<BR>> =20
> >Tom<BR>> > > "DJ" <animix =
_ at _=20
animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message =3D3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
>news:4696229c$1@linux...<BR>> > > Have =
you=20
tested each MEC individually? I'd start there. Did=20
you<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
>iuninstall/reinstall Paris=20
yet?<BR>> > > "Tom Bruhl" =
<<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
in message=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
>news:4695d5bf@linux...<BR>> =20
> > Sorry to shout but this is driving =
me=20
insane.<BR>> > ><BR>> > =20
> I am working with a cloned drive that used to =
work=20
with<BR>> > > 2 Mecs and =
WC. Now=20
no matter what I do, I can not<BR>> > =
> =20
get a second Mec to show up and receive clock. It<BR>> =20
> > doesn't matter if it's at the end of =
the=20
line or anywhere<BR>> > > =
else. =20
It doesn't matter if it's internally clocked or=20
=3D<BR>>externally<BR>> > > =20
clocked. I've changed Mecs, clock cables, SCSI =
cables<BR>> =20
> > and no changes. I've even =
tried a=20
reinstall of Paris.<BR>> > > =
Same deal.=20
=3D3D3D20<BR>> > ><BR>> > =20
> I must be doing something totally wrong for =
this to=20
continue.<BR>> > > The only =
thing else=20
I can think to try is swapping the =
=3D<BR>>last=3D3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > EDS card with another or go down to=20
four. Maybe it's<BR>> > > =
card=20
5? Or, triple check the connectors between all the =
cards<BR>> =20
> > again.<BR>> > =20
><BR>> > > All EDS cards are =
up and=20
running and play audio with Paris =3D3D<BR>> =
>effects.<BR>> =20
> > All 5 cards share 3 IRQs with =
nothing=20
else.<BR>> > > What else is=20
there?<BR>> > > =
Sadly,<BR>> =20
> > Tom<BR>> > =20
><BR>> > ><BR>> > =20
> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and=20
you?<BR>> > > <A=20
=
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..html</A> =20
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size=3D3D3D3D2>Deej,</FONT></DIV > <BR>> =20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>Ya, I've=20
uninstalled, =3D3D<BR>> >reinstalled Paris<BR>> =
> =20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > >about five=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
>times total in the last day and a=20
half.</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>I am =
close to=20
starting =3D<BR>>from =3D3D<BR>> >scratch =
and<BR>> =20
> =3D3D3D<BR>> > =
>possibly=3D3D3D20<BR>> =20
> >doing the antipace=20
thing.</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>I'm =
getting pretty=20
good =3D<BR>>at it. I<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =
>=3D3D3D<BR>> =20
> >have Mec 1=3D3D3D20<BR>> > >loaded =
with=20
cards attached to what has =
always</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>been Card=20
A for three =3D<BR>>years. Can<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > >that =
change?=3D3D3D20<BR>> =20
> >Paris works fine with just that one. I'll try=20
</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>all the others in that=20
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> ></FONT><FONT =
=3D3D3D<BR>> =20
> >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =20
>size=3D3D3D3D2>position just to see=20
though.</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> > ><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>I am close to starting =3D<BR>>from =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>scratch and<BR>> > =3D3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
>possibly=3D3D3D20<BR>> > >doing the antipace =
thing. How=20
could that be </FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>the evil =
that won't=20
allow<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >hardware to =
=3D3D3D<BR>> =20
> >show=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =20
>up?</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>Thanks,</FONT></D IV> <BR>> =
> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV&a mp;gt; <BR>> =
> =20
><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =20
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0px"><BR>> =20
> > <DIV>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ =
net>=20
wrote in message <A<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =
>=3D3D3D<BR>> =20
> ><BR>> > > =
=3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:4696229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:46=
96229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>=
> =20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>Have you tested each =3D<BR>>MEC =
=3D3D3D<BR>> =20
> >individually? I'd start=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> there. Did you iuninstall/reinstall Paris=20
yet?</FONT></DIV><BR>> > > =20
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px;=20
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =20
> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=20
=3D3D<BR>> >=3D3D3D<BR>> > >wrote=20
in=3D3D3D20<BR>> > > message =
<A=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > >href=3D3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:4695d5bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:4695d5=
bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=
p;=20
> > <DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>Sorry to shout but =3D<BR>>this is =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>driving<BR>> > =3D3D3D<BR>> > =20
>me=3D3D3D20<BR>> > > =20
insane.</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> > =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>I=20
am working with a =3D<BR>>cloned =3D3D<BR>> >drive=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > >that used =
to=3D3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > work=20
with</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =
> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>2 Mecs and =
WC.=20
=3D<BR>></FONT><FONT<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2>Now no matter what =
I do, I=20
can not</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>get a second Mec to =3D<BR>>show up<BR>> =
=3D3D<BR>> >and =3D3D3D<BR>> > =20
>receive=3D3D3D20<BR>> > > =
clock.=20
It</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =
> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>doesn't =
matter if=20
=3D<BR>>it's at =3D3D<BR>> >the end =
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =20
>of the line=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =
> or=20
anywhere</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>else. It doesn't =3D<BR>>matter if =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > >it's=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> internally clocked or=20
externally</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>clocked. I've =
changed<BR>=3D<BR>>Mecs,<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>> >=3D3D3D<BR>> > >clock=20
cables,=3D3D3D20<BR>> > > SCSI=20
cables</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>and no changes. I've<BR>=3D<BR>>even =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > >tried =
a=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =20
> reinstall of=20
Paris.</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>Same deal. =
=3D<BR>></FONT></DIV><BR >> =20
> > <DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> > =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>I=20
must be doing =3D<BR>>something =3D3D<BR>> >totally=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > >wrong for=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> this to=20
continue.</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>The only thing else I<BR>=3D<BR>>can =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>think to<BR>> > =3D3D3D<BR>> > =
>try=20
is=3D3D3D20<BR>> > > swapping =
the last=20
</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =
> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>EDS card with =
another<BR>=3D<BR>>or go<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> >down =
to<BR>> > =3D3D3D<BR>> > >four. =
=3D3D3D20<BR>> > > Maybe=20
it's</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =
> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>card 5? Or, =
triple=20
=3D<BR>>check the<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =
>=3D3D3D<BR>> =20
> >connectors=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =20
> between all the=20
cards</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =
> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>again.</FONT></DI V> <BR>> =
> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> > =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>All EDS cards are up<BR>=3D<BR>>and =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>running =3D3D3D<BR>> > >and play=20
audio=3D3D3D20<BR>> > > with =
Paris=20
effects.</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>All 5 cards share 3 =3D<BR>>IRQs =
=3D3D<BR>> >with=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > >nothing=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> else.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>What else is =3D3D<BR>> =20
>there?</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>Sadly,</FONT></DI V> <BR>> =
> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV&a mp;gt; <BR>> =
> =20
> <DIV><FONT=20
size=3D3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam=20
to<BR>=3D<BR>>fight<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =
>=3D3D3D<BR>> =20
> >spam, and=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =20
> you?<BR><A=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> =3D3D3D<BR>> > =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
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href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com'>http=
://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com</A>=3D<BR>>=
/re=3D3D<BR>> =20
>fer=3D3D3D<BR>> > >.html</A>=20
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gt;=3D3D3D<BR>> =20
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> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> =20
><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
Transitional//EN"><BR>> =
><HTML><HEAD><BR>> =20
><META http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html;=20
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><META=20
content=3D3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" =
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><STYLE></STYLE><BR>> =
></HEAD><BR>> =20
><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Hey =
Rod,</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Ya I've been =
swapping=20
things out<BR>=3D<BR>>to no<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =
>end just=20
to=3D3D20<BR>> >be =
sure.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I even had =
trouble=20
getting it =3D<BR>>going =3D3D<BR>> >with=20
internal=3D3D20<BR>> >clock which=20
ruled</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>out the Lucid in my=20
=3D<BR>>mind.</FONT></DIV> <BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>The latest =
news is I=20
couldn't =3D<BR>>get it to<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =
>boot at=20
all=3D3D20<BR>> >with other=20
Mecs</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>being the master. In the=20
process<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >I smoked =
the=3D3D20<BR>> =20
>original Mec A</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>because the =
SCSI cable=20
was half<BR>=3D<BR>>in at =3D3D<BR>> =
>start=3D3D20<BR>> =20
>up. I heard a crack</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>and then the =
smell of=20
burning =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >chips. It =
still=3D3D20<BR>> =20
>powers up but it's out</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>of the =
picture now.=20
Loaded with<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =
>modules=3D3D20<BR>> =20
>too.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Now nothing =
gets it going=20
except<BR>=3D<BR>>maybe<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> >the=20
lowly=3D3D20<BR>> >442. I'll=20
try</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>that next. I have a local =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>engineer coming=3D3D20<BR>> >over to see what=20
</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>Paris can do. He's very well =3D3D<BR>> =
>respected=20
in=3D3D20<BR>> >these =
parts.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>To bad I'm =
down for the=20
count =3D<BR>>it=3D3D20<BR>> =20
>seems.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>Ass</FONT></DIV& ;gt; <BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20<BR>> =20
>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px;=20
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; =
MARGIN-RIGHT:=20
0px"><BR>> > <DIV>"Rod Lincoln"=20
<<A=3D3D20<BR>> > =3D3D<BR>> =20
=3D<BR>>>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A'>m=
ailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A</A>=3D=
<BR>>>&g=3D3D<BR>> =20
>t;=3D3D20<BR>> > wrote in message =
<A=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>> =3D<BR>>>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:4696c93b$1@linux">news:4696c93b$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>T'>n=
ews:4696c93b$1@linux">news:4696c93b$1@linux</A>...</DIV>&l=
t;BR>T</A>=3D<BR>>om,=3D3D<BR>> =20
> have=3D3D20<BR>> > you done anything to rule =
out the=20
possibility that it may be a =3D3D<BR>> =20
>funky<BR>MEC=3D3D20<BR>> > word clock =
connection, or=20
perhaps the Lucid clock is flakey. Or =3D3D<BR>> =
>even<BR>a=20
bad=3D3D20<BR>> > mogami wordclock cable (I know =
that's a=20
longshot, but =3D<BR>>anything's=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
possible)<BR>Just a thought.<BR>Rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl"=20
<<A=3D3D20<BR>> > href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D3D20'>mail=
to:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D3D20</A><B=
R>> =20
> =20
wrote:<BR>><BR>>&a mp;lt;BR>>Deej,<BR>>Ya, =
I've=20
uninstalled, =3D3D<BR>> >reinstalled=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
Paris about five times total in the =3D3D3D<BR>>last day and =
a=20
=3D3D<BR>> >half.<BR>>I am=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
close to starting from scratch and possibly doing the=20
antipace=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
=3D3D3D<BR>>thing.<BR>&am p;gt;I'm getting pretty good at =
it. I have=20
=3D3D<BR>> >Mec 1=3D3D20<BR>> > loaded =
with cards=20
attached<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>t o what has =3D3D<BR>> =
>always<BR>>been Card A=3D3D20<BR>> > =
for three=20
years. Can that change? Paris works fine with =3D3D<BR>> =20
>just<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>& gt;that=3D3D20 <BR>> =
> one.=20
I'll try=3D3D3D20<BR>>all the others in that position just=20
=3D3D<BR>> >to see=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
though.<BR>><BR>>I am close to starting from scratch =
and=20
=3D3D<BR>> >possibly doing=3D3D20<BR>> > =
the=20
antipace =3D3D3D<BR>>thing. How could that =
be=3D3D3D20<BR>>the=20
=3D3D<BR>> >evil that=3D3D20<BR>> > =
won't allow=20
hardware to show =3D3D<BR>> =20
>up?<BR>>Thanks,<BR&g t;>Tom<BR>>=20
"DJ"=3D3D20<BR>> > <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ =
net>=20
wrote in message=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
=3D3D3D<BR>>news:4696229c$1@linux...<BR>> Have you =
tested each=20
=3D3D<BR>> >MEC=3D3D20<BR>> > =
individually? I'd=20
start there. Did you =
=3D<BR> >=3D3D3D<BR>>iuninstall/reinstal l=20
=3D3D<BR>> >Paris=3D3D20<BR>> > =
yet?<BR>>=20
"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D20<BR>> > href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=20
=3D<BR>>wrote =3D3D<BR>> >in =
message=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
=3D3D3D<BR>>news:4695d5bf@linux...<BR>> Sorry to=20
=3D3D<BR>> >shout but=3D3D20<BR>> > this =
is driving=20
me insane.<BR>><BR>> I am =3D3D<BR>> =
>working=20
with=3D3D20<BR>> > a cloned drive that used to work=20
with<BR>> 2 Mecs =3D3D<BR>> =
>and=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> WC. Now no matter what I do, I can not<BR>>=20
=3D3D<BR>> >get a=3D3D20<BR>> > second =
Mec to show=20
up and receive clock. =3D3D<BR>> >It<BR>>=20
=3D3D20<BR>> > doesn't matter if it's at the end of =
the line=20
or=3D3D20<BR>> > anywhere<BR>> else. It =
doesn't=20
matter if =3D3D<BR>> >it's=3D3D20<BR>> > =
internally=20
clocked or externally<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> >clocked.=20
I've=3D3D20<BR>> > changed Mecs, clock cables, SCSI=20
cables<BR>> and =3D3D<BR>> =
>no=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> changes. I've even tried a reinstall of =3D3D<BR>> =
>Paris.<BR>> =3D3D20<BR>> > Same deal.=20
=3D3D3D20<BR>><BR>> ; I must be doing =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>something=3D3D20<BR>> > totally wrong for this =
to=20
continue.<BR>> The only =3D3D<BR>> =20
>thing=3D3D20<BR>> > else I can think to try is =
swapping=20
the =3D3D<BR>> >last=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
EDS=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> card with another or go down to four. =
Maybe=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> it's<BR>> card 5? Or, triple check the =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>connectors=3D3D20<BR>> > between all the=20
cards<BR>> =3D3D20<BR>> > =20
again.<BR>><BR>> All EDS cards are up and =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>running and=3D3D20<BR>> > play audio with Paris=20
effects.<BR>> All 5 cards =3D3D<BR>> >share=20
3=3D3D20<BR>> > IRQs with nothing =
else.<BR>> What=20
else is=3D3D20<BR>> > there?<BR>>=20
Sadly,<BR>> =3D3D20<BR>> > =20
Tom<BR>><BR>>& lt;BR>> I choose Polesoft=20
=3D3D<BR>> >Lockspam to=3D3D20<BR>> > =
fight spam,=20
and you?<BR>> <A=3D3D20<BR>> > =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
=3D<BR>>>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re'>h=
ttp://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re</A>=3D<B=
R>>fer=3D3D<BR>> =20
>.html</A> =3D3D20<BR>> > =20
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bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>>&am p;lt;DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> > =3D3D<BR>> =
=
>size=3D3D3D3D2>Deej,</FONT>& ;lt;/DIV><BR>><DIV=
><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Ya, I've uninstalled,=20
=3D<BR>>reinstalled=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
Paris<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>abou t =
five=3D3D3D20<BR>>times total=20
in the last =3D<BR>>day =3D3D<BR>> >and =
a=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> =
half.</FONT></DIV><BR& ;gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D3D<BR>> >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
size=3D3D3D3D2>I am close to starting from =
scratch=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> =
and<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>possib ly=3D3D3D20<BR>>doing=20
the antipace=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
thing.</FONT></DIV><BR&am p;gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D3D<BR>> >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
size=3D3D3D3D2>I'm getting pretty good at it. I =
=3D3D3D<BR>>have=20
=3D<BR>>Mec=3D3D20<BR>> > =
1=3D3D3D20<BR>>loaded with=20
cards attached to what has=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
always</FONT></DIV><BR&am p;gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D3D<BR>> >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
size=3D3D3D3D2>been Card A for three years. Can=20
=3D3D3D<BR>>that=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
change?=3D3D3D20<BR>>Paris works fine with just that one. =
I'll=20
=3D<BR>>try=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
</FONT></DIV><BR>& amp;gt;<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> > =
size=3D3D3D3D2>all the others=20
in that </FONT><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
=
=3D3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D3D20 <BR>>size=3D3D3D=
3D2>position=20
just to<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >see=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
though.</FONT></DIV><BR&a mp;gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D3D<BR>> >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>><DIV&am p;gt;<FONT=20
=3D3D<BR>> >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
size=3D3D3D3D2>I am close to starting from =
scratch=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> =
and<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>possib ly=3D3D3D20<BR>>doing=20
the antipace thing. How<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >could =
that=20
be=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
</FONT></DIV><BR>& amp;gt;<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> > =
size=3D3D3D3D2>the evil that=20
won't allow hardware to=3D3D20<BR>> > =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
=
>=3D3D3D<BR>>show=3D3D3D20&l t;BR>>up?</FONT></=
DIV><BR>><DIV&g=3 D3D <BR>> =20
>t;<FONT=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> > =3D3D<BR>> =
=
>size=3D3D3D3D2>Thanks,</FONT>&a mp;lt;/DIV><BR>><D=
IV><FONT=3D3D<BR>> =20
>=3D3D20<BR>> > face=3D3D3D3DArial =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
=
>size=3D3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT>&l t;/DIV><BR>><BLOCK=
QUOTE=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> =
dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D 3D3D "PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; =
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> MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 =
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> =20
0px"><BR>> <DIV>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot=20
=3D3D<BR>> >_=3D3D20<BR>> > net> =
wrote in message=20
<A =3D3D3D<BR>><BR>> =
href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR>>>href=3D3D3D'news:4696229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1@linu=
x</A>...</DIV'>news=3D<BR>>:46=3D3D <BR>> =20
=
>96229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1@linux</A>...</DIV</A&g=
t;><BR>=3D3D<BR>> =20
>> =3D3D20<BR>> > <DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>Have you tested each =3D3D<BR>> =20
>MEC=3D3D20<BR>> > =
=3D3D3D<BR>>individually? I'd=20
start=3D3D3D20<BR>> there. Did you=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
iuninstall/reinstall Paris yet?</FONT></DIV><BR& gt;> =
=3D3D<BR>> ><BR>> > <BLOCKQUOTE=20
dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =20
>style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;=3D3D20<BR>> > =
PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: =
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solid;=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Tom=20
=3D3D<BR>> >Bruhl"=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
<<A=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR>>>href=3D3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast=
..net</A'>mailto:arp=3D<BR>>egi=3D3D<BR >> =20
=
>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D3D20<=
BR>> =20
> =3D3D3D<BR>>wrote in=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
message=20
<A=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
=3D3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20 <BR>> =
> =20
=3D3D<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR>>>href=3D3D3D'news:4695d5bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux<=
;/A>...</DIV'>news:469=3D<BR>>5d5=3D3D <BR>> =20
=
>bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux </A>...</DIV</A>>& amp;l=
t;BR>>&nbs=3D3D<BR>> =20
>p; =3D3D20<BR>> > <DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>Sorry to shout but =3D3D<BR>> >this=20
is=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
driving<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>me =3D3D3D20<BR>>=20
=3D3D20<BR>> > =
insane.</FONT></DIV><BR&a mp;gt;>=20
=3D3D<BR>> ><DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D3D<BR>> =
></DIV><BR>> =3D3D20<BR>> > =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>I am working =
with a=20
=3D3D<BR>> >cloned drive=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
=3D3D3D<BR>>that used to=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
work=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> with</FONT></DIV><BR& gt;> =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> > =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>2 Mecs and WC. =
</FONT><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> =
=3D3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D3D20 <BR>>=20
=3D3D<BR>> >size=3D3D3D3D2>Now no =
matter=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> what I do, I can =3D3D<BR>> =20
>not</FONT></DIV>< BR>> =3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>get a second =
Mec to=20
=3D3D<BR>> >show up and=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
=3D3D3D<BR>>receive=3D3D3D20<BR& amp;gt;> =
clock.=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> It</FONT></DIV><BR> ;> =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> > =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>doesn't matter if it's at the end =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>>of the=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
line=3D3D3D20<BR>> or=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
anywhere</FONT></DIV><BR& amp;gt;> =3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>else. It =
doesn't=20
=3D3D<BR>> >matter if=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
=3D3D3D<BR>>it's=3D3D3D20<BR& ;gt;> internally clocked=20
or=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
externally</FONT></DIV><B R>> =
=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>clocked. I've=20
changed =3D3D<BR>> >Mecs,=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
=3D3D3D<BR>>clock cables,=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> cables</FONT></DIV><BR&am p;gt;> =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> > =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>and no changes. I've even =3D3D<BR>> =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>>tried=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
a=3D3D3D20<BR>> reinstall of=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
Paris.</FONT></DIV><BR&am p;gt;> =3D3D<BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> > =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>Same deal.=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
</FONT></DIV><BR>& amp;gt; =3D3D<BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> > =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D3D<BR>> =
></DIV><BR>>=20
=3D3D20<BR>> > <DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>I must be doing =3D3D<BR>> >something=20
totally=3D3D20<BR>> > =3D3D3D<BR>>wrong=20
for=3D3D3D20<BR>> this to=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
continue.</FONT></DIV><BR >> =3D3D20<BR>> =
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>The only thing=20
else I =3D3D<BR>> >can think=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
to<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>try is=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
swapping the=20
=3D3D<BR>> >last=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
</FONT></DIV><BR>& amp;gt; =3D3D<BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> > =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>EDS card with another or go down =3D3D<BR>> =
>to<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>> ;four.=3D3D20 <BR>> =
> =20
=3D3D3D20<BR>> Maybe=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
it's</FONT></DIV><BR& gt;> =3D3D<BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> > =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>card 5? Or, triple check the=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
=3D3D3D<BR>>connectors=3D3D3D20< BR>> between all=20
the=3D3D20<BR>> > =
cards</FONT></DIV><BR& ;gt;>=20
=3D3D<BR>> ><DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> > =3D3D<BR>> =
>size=3D3D3D3D2>again.</FONT>&am p;lt;/DIV><BR>>=20
=3D3D20<BR>> > <DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
</DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D3D<BR>> =20
>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> > =
size=3D3D3D3D2>All EDS=20
cards are up and running =3D3D3D<BR>>and=20
=3D<BR>>play=3D3D20<BR>> > =
audio=3D3D3D20<BR>> with=20
Paris=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
effects.</FONT></DIV><BR& amp;gt;> =3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>All 5 cards =
share 3=20
=3D3D<BR>> >IRQs with=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
=3D3D3D<BR>>nothing=3D3D3D20<BR& amp;gt;> =
=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
else.</FONT></DIV><BR& ;gt;> =3D3D<BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> > =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>What else is=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
there?</FONT></DIV><BR&am p;gt;> =3D3D<BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> > =3D3D<BR>> =
>size=3D3D3D3D2>Sadly,</FONT>&am p;lt;/DIV><BR>>=20
=3D3D20<BR>> > <DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
size=3D3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV&a mp;gt;<BR>> =
=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I =
choose=20
=3D3D<BR>> >Polesoft Lockspam=3D3D20<BR>> =
> to fight=20
=3D3D3D<BR>>spam, and=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> you?<BR><A=3D3D3D20<BR>&a mp;gt; =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20 <BR>> =
> =20
=3D3D<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR>>>href=3D3D3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://=
www.polesoft.com/re=3D<BR>>fer=3D3D<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR>>>'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.pol=
esoft.com/refer</A=3D3D=3D<BR>><BR>> =20
>>=3D3D3D<BR>>.html&l t;/A>=3D3D20 <BR>> =
> =20
=3D3D<BR>> =20
=
></FONT></DIV></BL OCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></B=
ODY&=3D3D<BR>> =20
=
>gt;=3D3D3D<BR>></HTML&am p;gt;<BR>><BR>>&am p;lt;=
BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY>&a mp;lt;/HTML=3D3D <BR>> =20
>><BR>> ><BR>> =20
><BR>><BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML =
4.0=20
Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD> <BR>><META=20
http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
=3D<BR>>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
6.00.2800.1400"=20
=
name=3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE> <BR>></HEA=
D><BR>><BODY=20
bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2>Well=20
here's what is=20
=
=3D<BR>>happening.</FONT></DIV> <BR>><DIV><FONT=
=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I looked very closely at the pins on =
=3D<BR>>the=20
scsi=3D20<BR>>cables and=20
noticed</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>a slightly bent one or two on almost =3D<BR>>half of=20
them=3D20<BR>>(5). I think=20
it's</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>from being careless about pushing them<BR>=3D<BR>>in. =
I=3D20<BR>>straightened=20
them</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>perfectly and yet still no luck with=20
=3D<BR>>booting=3D20<BR>>Paris. "No interface=20
attached</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>to the Master Card" is the =3D<BR>>message. I'm=20
only=3D20<BR>>using one mec to=20
test.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>I also tried the 442. Once in a =3D<BR>>while =
the=3D20<BR>>Magma=20
wouldn't turn on with =
the</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>442 attached. I think that is =
=3D<BR>>because of=20
the=3D20<BR>>bent pins. That's good=20
of</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>the Magma. </FONT><FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3DArial=3D20<BR>>size=3D3D2>I've tried all =
five cards, removed=20
the A card and swapped=20
it=3D20<BR>></FONT></DIV> <BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>with another </FONT><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial<BR>=3D<BR>>size=3D3D2>still=3D20 <BR>>no luck.=20
</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>I'm lost in this quagmire now. =3D<BR>>I'm not=20
even=3D20<BR>>pissed about the busted=20
mec</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2>at this point. I want an answer =3D<BR>>to what=20
is=3D20<BR>>going on. The default project=20
</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>is looking for external word clock so =3D<BR>>that's=20
my=3D20<BR>>only choice although=20
I</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>have tried it with no Lucid attached =3D<BR>>with the =
=
same=3D20<BR>>results.</FONT></DIV> <BR>><DIV><=
FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I think I'll call=20
=
Edmund.</FONT></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20 <BR>>style=3D=
3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=20
0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: =
#000000 2px=20
solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Rod Lincoln"=20
<<A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.r.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.r.com</A'>mai=
lto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.r.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.r.com</A</A>>&g=
t;=3D<BR>>=20
wrote=3D20<BR>> in message <A=3D20<BR>> =
=3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:469708c8$1@linux">news:469708c8$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>That=
'>news:469708c8$1@linux">news:469708c8$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=
;<BR>That</A>=3D<BR>>=20
kinda=3D20<BR>> totally sucks. =
Sorry.<BR>rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl"=20
<<A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto=
:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20</A><BR>&g=
t; =20
wrote:<BR>><BR>>&a mp;lt;BR>>Hey =
Rod,<BR>>Ya I've=20
been swapping =3D<BR>>things out=3D20<BR>> to no end just =
to be=20
sure.<BR>>I even had trouble getting it going=20
=3D<BR>>with=3D20<BR>> internal clock which =
ruled<BR>>out the=20
Lucid in my =
=3D<BR> >mind.<BR>><BR>&am p;gt;The=3D20 <BR>> =20
latest news is I couldn't get it to boot at all with other=20
=3D<BR>>Mecs<BR>>being=3D20<BR >> the master. In =
the process I=20
smoked the original Mec =
=3D<BR>>A<BR>>because=3D20<BR >> the=20
SCSI cable was half in at start up. I heard a =
=3D<BR>>crack<BR>>and=20
then=3D20<BR>> the smell of burning chips. It still powers up =
but it's=20
=3D<BR>>out<BR>>of=3D20<BR>> the picture now. =
Loaded with=20
modules too.<BR>><BR>>Now =
=3D<BR>>nothing=3D20<BR>> =20
gets it going except maybe the lowly 442. I'll=20
try<BR>>that=3D20<BR>> next. I have a local engineer =
coming=20
over to see =
=3D<BR>>what=3D3D20<BR>>Paris=3D20 <BR>> can do.=20
He's very well respected in these parts.<BR>>To bad =
=3D<BR>>I'm=20
down=3D20<BR>> for the count it=20
seems.<BR>>Ass<BR>> ;<BR>> "Rod Lincoln"=20
=3D<BR>><<A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&a=
mp;g'>mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</=
A>&g</A>=3D<BR>>t;=3D20<BR>> =20
wrote in message=20
=
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>news:4696c93b$1@linux...<BR>><B=
R>>=20
Tom,=3D20<BR>> have you done anything to rule out the =
possibility that=20
it may=3D20<BR>> be<BR>=3D3D<BR>>a =
funky<BR>> MEC=20
word clock connection, or =3D<BR>>perhaps the=3D20<BR>> =
Lucid clock is=20
flakey. Or =3D3D<BR>>even<BR>> ; a bad mogami=20
=3D<BR>>wordclock=3D20<BR>> cable (I know that's a =
longshot,=20
but=3D20<BR>> =20
anything's<BR>=3D3D<BR>>p ossible)<BR>> Just a=20
=3D<BR>>thought.<BR>> =3D20<BR>> =
Rod<BR>> "Tom=20
Bruhl" <<A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto=
:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20</A><BR>&g=
t; =20
wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> =
=3D20<BR>> =20
>Deej,<BR>> >Ya, I've uninstalled, reinstalled Paris=20
=3D<BR>>about five=3D20<BR>> times total in=20
the<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D& amp;lt;BR>> >last day and =
=3D<BR>>a=3D20<BR>> half.<BR>> >I am close to =
starting=20
from scratch and =3D<BR>>possibly doing=3D20<BR>> the =
antipace=20
=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>& ;gt; >thing.<BR>>=20
=3D<BR>>>I'm=3D20<BR>> getting pretty good at it. I =
have Mec 1=20
loaded with cards=3D20<BR>> =
=3D3D<BR>>attached<BR>&am p;gt;=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> >to what has=3D20<BR>> =
always<BR>>=20
>been Card A for three years. Can that change?=20
=3D<BR>>Paris=3D20<BR>> works fine with=20
=3D3D<BR>>just<BR>> ; =3D3D3D<BR>>=20
=3D<BR>>>that=3D20<BR>> one. I'll =
try=3D3D3D20<BR>> >all=20
the others in that =3D<BR>>position=3D20<BR>> just to see=20
though.<BR>> ><BR>> >I am close to=20
=3D<BR>><BR>> starting from scratch and possibly doing the =
antipace=3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>& ;gt; =
>thing. How=20
could that=3D20<BR>> be=3D3D3D20<BR>> >the evil =
that won't=20
allow hardware to show =3D<BR>><BR>> up?<BR>>=20
>Thanks,<BR>> >Tom<BR>> =3D<BR>>>=20
=3D20<BR>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> =
wrote in=20
message=3D20<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>>=20
>news:4696229c$1@linux...<BR>> =3D<BR>>> =
Have=3D20<BR>> =20
you tested each MEC individually? I'd start there. Did you=20
=3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20<BR>> =
>iuninstall/reinstall Paris=20
yet?<BR>> =3D<BR>>> "Tom=3D20<BR>> Bruhl" =
<<A=20
=3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto=
:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20</A><BR>&g=
t; =20
wrote in message =3D3D3D<BR>>=20
=3D<BR>>>news:4695d5bf@linux...<BR>> =
=3D20<BR>> > Sorry=20
to shout but this is driving me=3D20<BR>> =
insane.<BR>>=20
><BR>> > I am =3D<BR>>working=3D20<BR>> =
with a cloned=20
drive that used to work with<BR>> =3D20<BR>> > 2 =
Mecs and=20
WC. Now no matter what I do, I =3D<BR>>can=3D20<BR>> =
not<BR>>=20
> get a second Mec to show up =3D<BR>>and=3D20<BR>> =
receive clock.=20
It<BR>> > doesn't =3D<BR>>matter if=3D20<BR>> =
it's at the=20
end of the line or anywhere<BR>> =3D<BR>>> =
=3D20<BR>> =20
else. It doesn't matter if it's internally clocked =
or=3D20<BR>> =20
externally<BR>> > clocked. I've =
=3D<BR>>changed=3D20<BR>> =20
Mecs, clock cables, SCSI cables<BR>> > =3D<BR>>and=20
no=3D20<BR>> changes. I've even tried a reinstall of=20
Paris.<BR>> =3D20<BR>> > Same deal. =
=3D3D3D20<BR>>=20
=3D<BR>>><BR>> =3D20<BR>> > I must be doing =
something=20
totally wrong for =3D<BR>>this to=3D20<BR>> =
continue.<BR>>=20
> The only thing else I =3D<BR>>can think=3D20<BR>> to =
try is=20
swapping the last=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>> EDS =
card=3D20<BR>> =20
with another or go down to four. Maybe it's<BR>> =
=3D20<BR>> =20
> card 5? Or, triple check the connectors =
=3D<BR>>between=3D20<BR>> =20
all the cards<BR>> > =3D<BR>>again.<BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> ><BR>> > All EDS cards are up and=20
=3D<BR>>running and=3D20<BR>> play audio with Paris=20
=3D3D<BR>>effects.<BR>&am p;gt; =3D<BR>>> =
=3D20<BR>> All 5=20
cards share 3 IRQs with nothing else.<BR>> =
=3D20<BR>> >=20
What else is there?<BR>> =3D20<BR>> > =
Sadly,<BR>>=20
> =3D20<BR>> Tom<BR>> ><BR>> =
><BR>>=20
=3D<BR>>> =3D20<BR>> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to =
fight spam, and=20
you?<BR>> =3D20<BR>> > <A=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=
>=3D<BR>>.html</A>=20
=3D20<BR>> =3D3D20<BR>> ><BR>> =
><!DOCTYPE HTML=20
PUBLIC =3D<BR>>"-//W3C//DTD=3D20<BR>> HTML 4.0=20
Transitional//EN"><BR>> =3D20<BR>> =20
><HTML><HEAD><BR&a mp;gt;> =
><META=3D20<BR>> =20
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=3D<BR>>><DIV><FONT=3D20 <BR>> =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
=
=3D<BR> >size=3D3D3D3D2>Deej,</FONT>& ;lt;/DIV><BR>>=
=20
=3D20<BR>> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>Ya,=20
I've =3D<BR>>uninstalled,=3D20<BR>> =
=3D3D<BR>>reinstalled=20
Paris<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>> =
=3D<BR>>>about=3D20<BR>> =20
five=3D3D3D20<BR>> >times total in the last day and=20
a=3D20<BR>> half.</FONT></DIV><BR& ;gt;>=20
><DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>I am=20
close to starting from =
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>scratch=3D20 <BR>> =20
and<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>>=20
=3D<BR>>>possibly=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
>doing=3D20<BR>> the=20
antipace thing.</FONT></DIV><BR&am p;gt;> =
=3D20<BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>I'm =
getting=20
=3D<BR>>pretty good=3D20<BR>> at it.=20
I<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D&am p;lt;BR>> >have Mec=20
=3D<BR>>1=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20<BR>> >loaded =
with cards=20
attached to what has=3D20<BR>> =20
always</FONT></DIV><BR&am p;gt;>=20
><DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>been=20
Card A for three years.=3D20<BR>> =20
Can<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D& amp;lt;BR>> >that=20
=3D<BR>>change?=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20<BR>> =
>Paris works fine=20
with just that one. I'll try=3D20<BR>> =20
</FONT></DIV><BR>& amp;gt; ><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D3D2>all =
the others in=20
that =
=3D<BR> >=3D3D<BR>></FONT> <FONT=3D20 <BR>> =20
=3D3D3D<BR>> >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D3D20<BR>> ;=20
=3D20<BR>> >size=3D3D3D3D2>position just to =
see=3D20<BR>> =20
though.</FONT></DIV><BR&a mp;gt;> ><DIV><FONT =
=3D<BR>><BR>> face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
=3D<BR>></DIV><BR>> =3D20<BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>I am close to=20
=3D<BR>>starting=3D20<BR>> from =3D3D<BR>>scratch =
and<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20<BR>> =20
>possibly=3D3D3D20<BR>> >doing the antipace thing. How=20
=3D<BR>>could that=3D20<BR>> be=20
</FONT></DIV><BR>& amp;gt;=20
><DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>the=20
evil that won't allow =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>hardware =
to=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D3D<BR>> >show=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D20<BR>> =20
>up?</FONT></DIV>< BR>> ><DIV><FONT =
=3D<BR>><BR>> face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
=
=3D<BR> >size=3D3D3D3D2>Thanks,</FONT>&a mp;lt;/DIV><BR>&g=
t;=20
=3D20<BR>> ><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
size=3D3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV&a mp;gt;<BR>>=20
=3D<BR>>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR>> =20
dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
>style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=20
=3D<BR>>0px;=3D20<BR>> PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px;=20
=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>& ;gt; =3D20<BR>> =
>BORDER-LEFT:=20
#000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: =3D<BR>>0px"><BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> > <DIV>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ =
dot _=20
net> =3D<BR>>wrote in=3D20<BR>> message <A=20
=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>& ;gt; ><BR>> =
=3D<BR>>>=20
=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR>>href=3D3D'news:4696229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1@linux</=
A>...</DIV'>news:46=3D<BR>>96229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1=
@linux</A>...</DIV</A>&am p;gt;<BR>=3D <BR>>>=20
=3D20<BR>> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>Have =3D<BR>>you tested=3D20<BR>> each =
MEC=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> >individually? I'd =
=3D<BR>>start=3D3D3D20<BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> > there. Did you iuninstall/reinstall=20
Paris=3D20<BR>> yet?</FONT></DIV><BR& gt;> =
>=20
<BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR>> =
dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20<BR>> >=20
=3D<BR>>style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;=3D20<BR>> =
PADDING-LEFT: 5px;=20
MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D <BR>>=20
=3D<BR>><BR>> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; =
MARGIN-RIGHT:=20
=3D<BR>>0px"><BR>> =3D20<BR>> > =
<DIV>"Tom Bruhl"=20
=3D<BR> ><<A=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20<BR>> >=20
href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR>>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net&l=
t;/A'>mailto:arpegi=3D<BR>>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net<=
;/A</A>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>& ;gt; >wrote =
in=3D3D3D20<BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> > message <A =3D3D3D<BR>>=20
=3D<BR>>>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR>>href=3D3D'news:4695d5bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>=
;...</DIV'>news:4695d5=3D<BR>>bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux&l=
t;/A>...</DIV</A>>< ;BR>>&nbs=3D <BR>>p;=3D20=
<BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
=3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D3D2>Sorry=3D20<BR>> to shout but =
this is=20
=3D3D<BR>>driving<BR>& ;gt; =
=3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> >me=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =
=3D20<BR>> =20
insane.</FONT></DIV><BR&a mp;gt;> > =
=3D20<BR>> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20<BR>> =
</DIV><BR>> >=20
<DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>I am=20
working with a cloned =
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>drive=3D20<BR >> =20
=3D3D3D<BR>> >that used to=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D<BR>>>=20
=3D20<BR>> work with</FONT></DIV><BR& gt;>=20
=3D<BR>>> =3D20<BR>> <DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>2 Mecs and WC.=3D20<BR>> =20
=
</FONT><FONT<BR>=3D3D& ;lt;BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D3D20<BR>> ; > =
=3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D3D2>Now=3D20<BR>> no matter what I =
do, I can=20
not</FONT></DIV><BR&g t;> =3D20<BR>> >=20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
=3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D3D2>get=20
a=3D20<BR>> second Mec to show =
up<BR>=3D3D<BR>>and=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20<BR>> =
>receive=3D3D3D20<BR>> >=20
clock.=3D20<BR>> It</FONT></DIV><BR> ;> =
>=20
=3D20<BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>doesn't=20
matter if =3D<BR>>it's at=3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>the =
end=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> >of the =
=3D<BR>>line=3D3D3D20<BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> > or=20
=3D<BR> >anywhere</FONT></DIV>&am p;lt;BR>> =
=3D20<BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
=3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D3D2>else.=3D20<BR>> It doesn't =
matter if=20
=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>& ;gt; =
=3D<BR>>>it's=3D3D3D20<BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> > internally clocked or=3D20<BR>> =20
externally</FONT></DIV><B R>> =3D<BR>>>=20
=3D20<BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>clocked. I've =3D<BR>>changed=3D20<BR>> =20
Mecs,<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3 D<BR>> >clock=20
=3D<BR>>cables,=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20<BR>> > =
SCSI=20
=3D<BR> >cables</FONT></DIV>& lt;BR>> =
=3D20<BR>> >=20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
=3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D3D2>and=20
no=3D20<BR>> changes. I've even =
=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>& ;gt;=20
>tried =3D<BR>>a=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20<BR>> > =
reinstall=20
of=3D20<BR>> Paris.</FONT></DIV><BR&am p;gt;> =
>=20
=3D20<BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>Same=20
deal.=3D20<BR>> </FONT></DIV><BR>& amp;gt; >=20
=3D20<BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20<BR>> =
</DIV><BR>> >=20
<DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>I must=20
be doing something =
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>totally=3D20 <BR>> =20
=3D3D3D<BR>> >wrong for=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D<BR>>>=20
this=3D20<BR>> to =
continue.</FONT></DIV><BR >>=20
=3D<BR>>> =3D20<BR>> <DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>The only thing =3D<BR>>else I =
can=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>think to<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>>=20
>try=3D20<BR>> is=3D3D3D20<BR>> > swapping the =
last=3D20<BR>> </FONT></DIV><BR>& amp;gt; >=20
=3D20<BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>EDS=20
card with =3D<BR>>another or=3D20<BR>> =20
go<BR>=3D3D<BR>>down to<BR>> =
=3D3D3D<BR>>=20
>four.=3D20<BR>> =3D3D3D20<BR>> > =
Maybe=3D20<BR>> =20
it's</FONT></DIV><BR& gt;> > =3D20<BR>> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>card 5? Or,=20
=3D<BR>>triple check=3D20<BR>> =20
the<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D& amp;lt;BR>>=20
=3D<BR> >>connectors=3D3D3D20<BR>> ; =3D20<BR>> =
> between=20
all the=3D20<BR>> =
cards</FONT></DIV><BR& ;gt;> >=20
=3D20<BR>> <DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
size=3D3D3D3D2>again.</FONT></DI V><BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> > <DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =
=3D<BR>>>=20
=3D20<BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>All EDS=20
cards are =3D<BR>>up and=3D20<BR>> =
=3D3D<BR>>running=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> >and play =
=3D<BR>>audio=3D3D3D20<BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> > with Paris=3D20<BR>> =20
effects.</FONT></DIV><BR& amp;gt;> > =
=3D<BR>><BR>> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>All 5 cards =
share=20
=3D<BR>>3 IRQs=3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>with =
=3D3D3D<BR>>=20
>nothing=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20<BR>> >=20
else.</FONT></DIV><BR& ;gt;> =3D20<BR>> >=20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
=3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D3D2>What=3D20<BR>> else is=20
=3D3D<BR>>there?</FONT>&a mp;lt;/DIV><BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> > <DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
size=3D3D3D3D2>Sadly,</FONT></DI V><BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> > <DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
size=3D3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV&a mp;gt;<BR>> =
=3D20<BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR> >size=3D3D3D3D2><BR><BR&a mp;gt;I=3D20 <BR>> =
choose=20
Polesoft Lockspam to =
fight<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3 D<BR>>=20
=3D<BR>>>spam,=3D20<BR>> and=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
>=20
=3D20<BR>> you?<BR><A=3D3D3D20<BR>&a mp;gt; >=20
=3D20<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>>=20
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lesoft.com/re'>h=3D<BR>>ttp://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http:=
//www.polesoft.com/re</A>=3D3D<B=3D<BR >>R>>fer=3D3D3D&l=
t;BR>>=20
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gt;<BR>></HEA=3D<BR> >D><BR>><BODY=3D20 <BR>&=
gt; =20
bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>>& lt;DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3DArial=20
=3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D2>Hey=3D20<BR>> =20
Rod,</FONT></DIV><BR& gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>Ya I've =
been swapping=20
things out to no<BR>=3D3D<BR>>end =
=3D<BR>>just=3D20<BR>> =20
to=3D3D20<BR>>be=20
=
=3D<BR> >sure.</FONT></DIV>&l t;BR>><DIV><FON=
T=3D20<BR>> =20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I even had trouble getting it going=20
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>with=3D20<BR >> =20
internal=3D3D20<BR>>clock which=3D20<BR>> =20
ruled</FONT></DIV><BR& ;gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>out the =
Lucid in=20
my=3D20<BR>> =20
mind.</FONT></DIV><BR& ;gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =
size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>><DIV&am p;gt;<FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>The =
latest news is I=20
couldn't get it =3D<BR> >to<BR>=3D3D<BR>>b oot =
at=3D20<BR>> =20
all=3D3D20<BR>>with other=3D20<BR>> =20
Mecs</FONT></DIV><BR& gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>being =
the master. In=20
the process =3D3D<BR>>I smoked=3D20<BR>> =20
the=3D3D20<BR>>original Mec=3D20<BR>> =20
A</FONT></DIV><BR> ><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>because the SCSI =
cable was half=20
in at =
=3D<BR> >=3D3D<BR>>start=3D3D20<B R>>up.=3D20 <BR>>&=
nbsp; I=20
heard a=20
=
crack</FONT></DIV><BR& ;gt;><DIV><FONT=3D20 <BR>&=
gt; =20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>and then the smell of burning=20
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>chips. It=3D20<BR>> =20
still=3D3D20<BR>>powers up but it's=3D20<BR>> =20
out</FONT></DIV><BR&g t;><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3DArial=20
=3D<BR>><BR>> size=3D3D3D2>of the picture now. Loaded=20
with=3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR> >=3D3D<BR>>modules=3D3D20< ;BR>>too.</FONT&g=
t;</DIV><BR>><D=3D <BR>>IV><FONT=3D20<BR>>&n=
bsp;=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
=
=3D<BR> ></DIV><BR>>&l t;DIV><FONT=3D20 <BR>>&nbs=
p;=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Now nothing gets it going =
except=3D20<BR>> =20
maybe<BR>=3D3D<BR>>the lowly=3D3D20<BR>>442.=20
I'll=3D20<BR>> =20
try</FONT></DIV><BR&g t;><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3DArial=20
=3D<BR>><BR>> size=3D3D3D2>that next. I have a local=20
=3D3D<BR>>engineer=20
=3D<BR>>coming=3D3D20<BR>>over=3D20 <BR>> to see =
what=20
</FONT></DIV><BR>& amp;gt;<DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>Paris =
can do. He's very=20
well =3D3D<BR>>respected=20
=3D<BR>>in=3D3D20<BR>>these=3D20 <BR>> =20
parts.</FONT></DIV><BR&am p;gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>To bad =
I'm down for the=20
count=3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR> >it=3D3D20<BR>>seems.</FO NT></DIV><BR&g=
t;><DIV><FONT=3D<BR>>=3D20 <BR>> =20
face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
=
size=3D3D3D2>Ass</FONT></DIV& ;gt;<BR>><DIV><=
FONT=3D20<BR>> =20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR> ></DIV><BR>>&l t;BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20<BR>>s=
tyle=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=20
=3D<BR>>0px;=3D20<BR>> PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px;=20
=3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 =3D<BR>>2px =
solid;=3D20<BR>> =20
MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Rod =
Lincoln"=3D20<BR>> =20
<<A=3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20<BR >> =20
=
=3D<BR>>href=3D3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam=
..kc.rr.com</A>&a=3D<BR>>mp;g'>mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.r=
r.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</=3D<BR>>A>&g</A>=3D=
3D<BR>>t;=3D3D20<BR>& gt;=20
=3D20<BR>> wrote in message <A=3D3D20<BR>>=20
=3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20<BR >> =20
=
=3D<BR>>href=3D3D'news:4696c93b$1@linux">news:4696c93b$1@linux</=
A>...</DIV><BR>Tom'=3D<BR >>>news:4696c93b$1@linux"&g=
t;news:4696c93b$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=3D<BR>><BR>Tom&=
lt;/A>,=3D3D<BR>>=3D20<BR>> =20
have=3D3D20<BR>> you done anything to rule out the =
possibility=20
=3D<BR>>that it=3D20<BR>> may be a=20
=3D3D<BR>>funky<BR>MEC=3D 3D20<BR>> word clock=20
=3D<BR>>connection,=3D20<BR>> or perhaps the Lucid clock =
is flakey. Or=20
=3D3D<BR>>even<BR>a=3D20<BR >> =
bad=3D3D20<BR>>=20
mogami wordclock cable (I know that's a =3D<BR>>longshot,=20
but=3D20<BR>> anything's=3D3D20<BR>> =
possible)<BR>Just=20
a=3D20<BR>> thought.<BR>Rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl"=20
=3D<BR>><<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20<BR>> =20
href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR>>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net&l=
t;/A>>=3D3D20'>mailto=3D<BR>>:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio=
@comcast.net</A>>=3D3D20</A& gt;<BR>&g=3D <BR>>t; =
=3D20<BR>> =20
wrote:<BR>><BR>>&a mp;lt;BR>>Deej,<BR>>Ya, =
=3D<BR>>I've=3D20<BR>> uninstalled,=20
=3D3D<BR>>reinstalled=3D3D20<BR& amp;gt;> Paris about =
=3D<BR>>five=20
times=3D20<BR>> total in the =3D3D3D<BR>>last day =
and a=20
=3D<BR> >=3D3D<BR>>half.<BR&g t;>I=3D20 <BR>> =20
am=3D3D20<BR>> close to starting from scratch and possibly=20
=3D<BR>>doing the=3D20<BR>> antipace=3D3D20<BR>>=20
=3D3D3D<BR>>thing.<BR>&am p;gt;I'm =
=3D<BR>>getting=3D20<BR>> =20
pretty good at it. I have =3D3D<BR>>Mec =
1=3D3D20<BR>> loaded=20
=3D<BR>>with cards=3D20<BR>> =
attached<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>t o=20
what has=3D20<BR>> =
=3D3D<BR>>always<BR>& gt;been Card=20
A=3D3D20<BR>> for =3D<BR>>three years. =
Can=3D20<BR>> that=20
change? Paris works fine with=3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D3D<BR>>just<BR>=3D3D3D <BR>>that=3D3D20<BR&g=
t;>=20
=3D<BR>>one. I'll=3D20<BR>> try=3D3D3D20<BR>>all =
the others in=20
that position just =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>to=3D20<BR>> =
see=3D3D20<BR>> though.<BR>><BR>>I am close =
=3D<BR>>to starting=3D20<BR>> from scratch and=20
=3D3D<BR>>possibly doing=3D3D20<BR>> the=20
=3D<BR>>antipace=3D20<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>>thing. How =
could that=20
be=3D3D3D20<BR>>the =
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>evil=3D20<BR >> =20
that=3D3D20<BR>> won't allow hardware to =
show=3D20<BR>> =20
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=3D3D<BR>>up?<BR>> Thanks,<BR>>Tom<BR>&g t=
;=3D20<BR>> =20
"DJ"=3D3D20<BR>> <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> =
wrote=20
=3D<BR>>in=3D20<BR>> message=3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D3D<BR>>news:4696229c$1@linux...<BR>> Have you=20
=3D<BR>>tested each=3D20<BR>> =
=3D3D<BR>>MEC=3D3D20<BR>& amp;gt;=20
individually? I'd start there. Did =3D<BR>>you=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D3D<BR>>iuninstall/reinstall=20
=3D<BR> >=3D3D<BR>>Paris=3D3D20<B R>> =
=3D20<BR>> =20
yet?<BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D20<BR>>=20
=3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20<BR>> =20
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=3D<BR>>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net&l=
t;/A'>mailto:arpegi=3D<BR>>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net<=
;/A</A>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
wrote =3D3D<BR>>in message=3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D3D<BR>>news:4695d5bf@linux...<BR>> Sorry to=20
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>shout=3D20<BR >> =
but=3D3D20<BR>> this=20
is driving me =3D<BR> >insane.<BR>><BR>& amp;gt; =
I=3D20<BR>> =20
am =3D3D<BR>>working with=3D3D20<BR>> a cloned drive =
that used=20
=3D<BR>>to work=3D20<BR>> with<BR>> 2 Mecs=20
=3D3D<BR>>and=3D3D20<BR>& amp;gt; WC. Now no =
=3D<BR>>matter=20
what=3D20<BR>> I do, I can not<BR>> =
=3D3D<BR>>get=20
a=3D3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>second Mec to=3D20<BR>> =
show up and=20
receive clock. =3D3D<BR>>It<BR>> =
=3D<BR>>=3D3D20<BR>>=20
doesn't=3D20<BR>> matter if it's at the end of the line=20
or=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20<BR>> anywhere<BR>> =
else. It=20
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=3D3D<BR>>it's=3D3D20<BR> >=20
internally clocked or =
=3D<BR>>externally<BR>>=3D20<BR >> =20
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clock=20
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=3D3D<BR>>no=3D3D20<BR>&a mp;gt; changes. =3D<BR>>I've =
even=20
tried=3D20<BR>> a reinstall of =
=3D3D<BR>>Paris.<BR>& gt;=20
=3D3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>Same deal.=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D3D20<BR>><BR>> ; I must be =
doing=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>something=3D3D20<BR&am p;gt;> totally wrong for =
this=20
to=3D20<BR>> continue.<BR>> The only=20
=3D3D<BR>>thing=3D3D20<BR> ;> =3D<BR>>else I =
can=3D20<BR>> =20
think to try is swapping the=20
=3D3D<BR>>last=3D3D3D20<BR&g t;>=3D20 <BR>> =20
EDS=3D3D20<BR>> card with another or go down to =
four.=3D20<BR>> =20
Maybe=3D3D20<BR>> it's<BR>> card 5? Or, triple check =
=3D<BR>>the=3D20<BR>> =
=3D3D<BR>>connectors=3D3D20<BR&a mp;gt;>=20
between all the =3D<BR>>cards<BR>>=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D20<BR>> again.<BR>><BR>> All EDS cards =
=3D<BR>>are up and=3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>running=20
and=3D3D20<BR>> play audio with Paris=3D20<BR>> =20
effects.<BR>> All 5 cards =3D3D<BR>>share=20
=3D<BR>>3=3D3D20<BR>> IRQs with=3D20<BR>> nothing =
else.<BR>> What else is=3D3D20<BR>>=20
=3D<BR>>there?<BR>>=3D20<BR>> =
Sadly,<BR>>=20
=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20<BR>> =20
Tom<BR>><BR>>& lt;BR>> I choose=20
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to=3D3D20<BR>>=20
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;=20
=3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Ya, I've=20
uninstalled,=3D20<BR>> reinstalled=3D3D20<BR>>=20
Paris<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>abou t =3D<BR>><BR>> =20
five=3D3D3D20<BR>>times total in the last day=20
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scratch=3D3D20<BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> =20
and<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>possib ly=3D3D3D20<BR>>doing =
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thing.</FONT></DIV><BR&am p;gt;><DIV><FONT=3D20 <BR>=
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=3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20& ;lt;BR>> =
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=3D<BR>>getting pretty good=3D20<BR>> at it. I =
=3D3D3D<BR>>have=20
Mec=3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D<BR>>1=3D3D3D20<BR>>loaded=3D20 <BR>> =20
with cards attached to what has=3D3D20<BR>> =
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always</FONT></DIV><BR&am p;gt;><DIV><FONT=3D20 <BR>=
> =20
=3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20& ;lt;BR>> =
size=3D3D3D3D2>been=20
=3D<BR>>Card A for three=3D20<BR>> years. Can=20
=3D3D3D<BR>>that=3D3D20<BR&g t;> =3D20<BR>> =20
change?=3D3D3D20<BR>>Paris works fine with just that one.=20
I'll=3D20<BR>> try=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20<BR>> =20
=
</FONT></DIV><BR>& amp;gt;<DIV><FONT=3D20 <BR>>&n=
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face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D3D2>all the =
others in=20
=3D<BR>>that=3D20<BR>> =
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=3D20<BR>> =20
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though.</FONT></DIV><BR&a mp;gt;><DIV><FONT=3D20 <BR=
>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20& ;lt;BR>>=20
=3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20 <BR>> =20
</DIV><BR>><DIV&am p;gt;<FONT=3D20 <BR>> =20
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scratch=3D3D20<BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> =20
and<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>possib ly=3D3D3D20<BR>>doing =
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=3D3D<BR>>could that=20
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face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D3D2>the evil =
that=20
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dot=3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>_=3D3D20<BR>&am p;gt; =
net> wrote in=20
message <A=3D20<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>><BR>>= 20
href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>><BR>> =20
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=3D<BR> >=3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D'news:4696 229c$1@linux">news:=
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=3D3D20<BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
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=3D<BR> >=3D3D<BR>><BR>&am p;gt; =3D20<BR>> =
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<<A=3D3D3D20<BR>>=3D20<BR >> =20
href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">=
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>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net<=3D<BR>>;/A</A>>=
>=3D3D20<BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>>wrote =
in=3D3D3D20<BR>> message=20
=3D<BR>><A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D20<BR>> =20
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=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D'news:4695d5bf@linux">news:46=
95d5bf@linux</A>=3D<BR> >;...</DIV'>news:4695d5=3D3D<BR& amp;=
gt;>bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux&l=3D<BR>>t;/A>...</D=
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nbsp;=20
=3D3D20<BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
=3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D3D2>Sorry to=3D20<BR>> shout but=20
=3D3D<BR>>this is=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20<BR>> =20
driving<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>me =3D3D3D20<BR>>=20
=3D<BR>>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20<BR>> =20
insane.</FONT></DIV><BR&a mp;gt;>=3D20 <BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>><DIV><FO NT=3D3D20<BR>>=20
face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
=3D3D<BR>></DIV><B R>>=3D20 <BR>> =20
=3D3D20<BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
=3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D3D2>I am=3D20<BR>> working with a=20
=3D3D<BR>>cloned drive=3D3D20<BR>>=20
=3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>that=3D20<BR >> used =
to=3D3D3D20<BR>>=20
work=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20<BR>> =20
with</FONT></DIV><BR& gt;>=3D20 <BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>><DIV><FO NT=3D3D20<BR>> =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
=3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D3D2>2=3D20<BR>> Mecs and WC.=20
</FONT><FONT=3D3D20<BR>&a mp;gt; =3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D3D20 <BR>>=20
=3D<BR> >=3D3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D3D2> ;Now=3D20 <BR>> =
no=20
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=3D3D<BR>>not</FONT>& lt;/DIV><BR>>=20
=3D<BR>>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20<BR>> =
<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>get a second Mec =
=3D<BR>>to=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>show up and=3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D3D<BR>>receive=3D3D3D20<BR& amp;gt;>=20
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=3D3D<BR>><DIV><FO NT=3D3D20<BR>>=20
face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D3D2>doesn't matter =
if it's at=20
the end =
=3D<BR> >=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR& ;gt;>of=3D20 <BR>> =
the=3D3D20<BR>> line=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
or=3D3D20<BR>>=20
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anywhere</FONT></DIV><BR& amp;gt;>=20
=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20<BR>> <DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>else. It doesn't=3D20<BR>> =
=3D3D<BR>>matter=20
if=3D3D20<BR>>=20
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=3D<BR> >=3D3D3D<BR>>it's=3D3D3D20&l t;BR>>=3D20 <BR>>&=
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=3D3D20<BR>>=20
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size=3D3D3D3D2>clocked. I've =3D<BR>>changed=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>Mecs,=3D3D20<BR> ;>=20
=3D3D3D<BR>>clock=3D20<BR>> =
cables,=3D3D3D20<BR>>=20
SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20<BR>> =20
cables</FONT></DIV><BR&am p;gt;>=3D20 <BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>><DIV><FO NT=3D3D20<BR>> =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
=3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D3D2>and=3D20<BR>> no changes. I've =
even=20
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=3D<BR> >=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR& ;gt;>tried=3D3D20<BR>=
>=20
=3D20<BR>> a=3D3D3D20<BR>> reinstall =
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=3D20<BR>> =20
Paris.</FONT></DIV><BR&am p;gt;>=3D20 <BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>><DIV><FO NT=3D3D20<BR>>=20
face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D3D2>Same=20
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=3D3D<BR>>something totally=3D3D20<BR>>=20
=3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>wrong=3D20 <BR>> =
for=3D3D3D20<BR>>=20
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continue.</FONT></DIV><BR >> =3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D20<BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>The=20
only thing =3D<BR>>else I=3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>can =
think=3D3D20<BR>>=20
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is=3D3D3D20<BR>> swapping the=20
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=3D20<BR>> =20
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face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
=3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D3D2>EDS=3D20<BR>> card with another =
or go=20
down=3D20<BR>> =20
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=3D3D<BR>>to<BR>=3D3D3D&a mp;lt;BR>>four.=3D3D20<BR>=
;>=20
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it's</FONT></DIV><BR& gt;>=3D20 <BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>><DIV><FO NT=3D3D20<BR>>=20
face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D3D2>card 5? Or, =
triple check=20
the=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D3D<BR>>connectors=3D3D3D20< BR>> between=20
all=3D20<BR>> the=3D3D20<BR>>=20
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| Re: Paris hardware troubles won't stop. HELP!!! [message #88049 is a reply to message #88043] |
Fri, 13 July 2007 08:16 |
Tom Bruhl
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Guys,
I'm all set with the cables and the which card is A bit.
Rod you were right about what I was asking.
In any event I scaled down to one EDS (Pretty sure that's card A =
right?!!!)
and plugged it into each of my two working Mecs. Paris will boot but
even internal clock was never found nor were the in/outs on each Mec.
The 442 on the other hand works like a champ one card only. I suspect
either all my Mecs are screwy now or the SCSI cables are intermitant at =
best.
It's working fine with the 442 so I'm sticking with that for today.
I'll add my EDS cards one by one and see if that is back to normal.
Thanks for the help and if I need scsi cables what and where to buy them =
would be good info too.
Mr Testy
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message =
news:469780ce$1@linux...
I think Tom was asking if there was a "3.0" version of the EDS card =
that needed
to be connected to the master. The answer to that would be no.=20
Is this what you were asking Tom?
DJ's advice is very important though. I would do it, if you haven't =
already.
I don't want to sound like a "RTFM" kind of guy, but the Paris manual =
describes
this procedure pretty well.
It's on page 4 and 5 of the 3.0 version.
It kind of sounds to me like you may not be hooking up the correct eds =
card
to the master mec.
Rod
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>
>
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =3D
>news:46972376@linux...
> This is really a novice oriented question but . . .
> It doesn't matter which card is the "A" card
> in your system as far as Paris' ID orientation right?
>
> Yes, it does, and the orientation of the slots you are using in =3D
>combination with the orientation of the ribbon cables will determine =
=3D
>this. Have you changed them around during your reconfiguration?
>
> Start with a new SCSI cable and a single EDS card. Test each MEC. =
Once
=3D
>you know if there is a problem there, add a new SCSI cable and =
another =3D
>card. Put different modules in the MECs so you can see which one is =
on =3D
>card A, B, C at all times. this will give you the info as to how the =
=3D
>cards are initializing and which card is card A, B, C as you start =
=3D
>adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were =
working =3D
>perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't imagine it being a =
=3D
>problem. Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue though. Your =
=3D
>system will not function with bad SCSI cables.
>
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> <A href=3D3D"news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>This is really a novice =
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> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>It doesn't matter which card =
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> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>in your system as far as =
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> <DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Yes, it does, and the =
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>single EDS=3D20
> card. Test each MEC. Once you know if there is a problem there, add =
a
=3D
>new SCSI=3D20
> cable and another card. Put different modules in the MECs so you =
can =3D
>see which=3D20
> one is on card A, B, C at all times. this will give you the info =
=3D
>as to=3D20
> how the cards are initializing and which card is card A, B, C as =
you =3D
>start=3D20
> adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were =
working
=3D
>
> perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't imagine it being =
a =3D
>problem.=3D20
> Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue though. Your system =
=3D
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Guys,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm all set with the cables and the =
which card is A=20
bit.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rod you were right about what I was=20
asking.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In any event I scaled down to one EDS =
(Pretty sure=20
that's card A right?!!!)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and plugged it into each of my two =
working=20
Mecs. Paris will boot but</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>even internal clock was never found nor =
were the=20
in/outs on each Mec.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The 442 on the other hand works like a =
champ one=20
card only. I suspect</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>either all my Mecs are screwy now or =
the SCSI=20
cables are intermitant at best.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It's working fine with the 442 so I'm =
sticking with=20
that for today.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll add my EDS cards one by one and =
see if that is=20
back to normal.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for the help and if I need scsi =
cables what=20
and where to buy them would be good info too.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mr Testy</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
t;=20
wrote in message <A=20
href=3D"news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>I =
think Tom=20
was asking if there was a "3.0" version of the EDS card that =
needed<BR>to be=20
connected to the master. The answer to that would be no. <BR>Is this =
what you=20
were asking Tom?<BR>DJ's advice is very important though. I would do =
it, if=20
you haven't already.<BR>I don't want to sound like a "RTFM" kind of =
guy, but=20
the Paris manual describes<BR>this procedure pretty well.<BR>It's on =
page 4=20
and 5 of the 3.0 version.<BR>It kind of sounds to me like you may not =
be=20
hooking up the correct eds card<BR>to the master mec.<BR>Rod<BR>"DJ"=20
<animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net>=20
wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
in message=20
=3D<BR>>news:46972376@linux...<BR>> This is really a =
novice oriented=20
question but . . .<BR>> It doesn't matter which card is the =
"A"=20
card<BR>> in your system as far as Paris' ID orientation=20
right?<BR>><BR>> Yes, it does, and the orientation of the =
slots=20
you are using in =3D<BR>>combination with the orientation of the =
ribbon=20
cables will determine =3D<BR>>this. Have you changed them around =
during your=20
reconfiguration?<BR>><BR>> Start with a new SCSI cable and =
a=20
single EDS card. Test each MEC. Once<BR>=3D<BR>>you know if there =
is a=20
problem there, add a new SCSI cable and another =3D<BR>>card. Put =
different=20
modules in the MECs so you can see which one is on =3D<BR>>card A, =
B, C at=20
all times. this will give you the info as to how the =3D<BR>>cards =
are=20
initializing and which card is card A, B, C as you start =
=3D<BR>>adding more=20
hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were working =
=3D<BR>>perfectly=20
when I took my system off line. I can't imagine it being a =
=3D<BR>>problem.=20
Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue though. Your =
=3D<BR>>system=20
will not function with bad SCSI cables.<BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE =
HTML=20
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Bruhl"=20
<<A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
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href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
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right?</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Yes, it does, and the =
orientation=20
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cable and a=20
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know if=20
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and another card. Put different modules in the MECs so you can =
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will give you=20
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initializing and=20
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adding more=20
hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were=20
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off line. I=20
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| Re: Paris hardware troubles won't stop. HELP!!! [message #88052 is a reply to message #88049] |
Fri, 13 July 2007 09:42 |
Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
Registered: September 2005
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Did you try hiding the default ppj to see if it would boot up with a MEC when
creating a new session?
Rod
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Guys,
>I'm all set with the cables and the which card is A bit.
>Rod you were right about what I was asking.
>
>In any event I scaled down to one EDS (Pretty sure that's card A =
>right?!!!)
>and plugged it into each of my two working Mecs. Paris will boot but
>even internal clock was never found nor were the in/outs on each Mec.
>The 442 on the other hand works like a champ one card only. I suspect
>either all my Mecs are screwy now or the SCSI cables are intermitant at
=
>best.
>It's working fine with the 442 so I'm sticking with that for today.
>I'll add my EDS cards one by one and see if that is back to normal.
>
>Thanks for the help and if I need scsi cables what and where to buy them
=
>would be good info too.
>Mr Testy
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message =
>news:469780ce$1@linux...
>
> I think Tom was asking if there was a "3.0" version of the EDS card =
>that needed
> to be connected to the master. The answer to that would be no.=20
> Is this what you were asking Tom?
> DJ's advice is very important though. I would do it, if you haven't =
>already.
> I don't want to sound like a "RTFM" kind of guy, but the Paris manual
=
>describes
> this procedure pretty well.
> It's on page 4 and 5 of the 3.0 version.
> It kind of sounds to me like you may not be hooking up the correct eds
=
>card
> to the master mec.
> Rod
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =3D
> >news:46972376@linux...
> > This is really a novice oriented question but . . .
> > It doesn't matter which card is the "A" card
> > in your system as far as Paris' ID orientation right?
> >
> > Yes, it does, and the orientation of the slots you are using in =3D
> >combination with the orientation of the ribbon cables will determine
=
>=3D
> >this. Have you changed them around during your reconfiguration?
> >
> > Start with a new SCSI cable and a single EDS card. Test each MEC. =
>Once
> =3D
> >you know if there is a problem there, add a new SCSI cable and =
>another =3D
> >card. Put different modules in the MECs so you can see which one is =
>on =3D
> >card A, B, C at all times. this will give you the info as to how the
=
>=3D
> >cards are initializing and which card is card A, B, C as you start =
>=3D
> >adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were =
>working =3D
> >perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't imagine it being a
=
>=3D
> >problem. Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue though. Your
=
>=3D
> >system will not function with bad SCSI cables.
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
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> > <A href=3D3D"news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV>
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>oriented =3D
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> > .</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>It doesn't matter which card =
>is the =3D
> >"A"=3D20
> > card</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>in your system as far as =
>Paris' ID =3D
> >orientation=3D20
> > right?</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Yes, it does, and the =
>orientation of
> =3D
> >the slots=3D20
> > you are using in combination with the orientation of the =
>ribbon=3D20
> > cables will determine this. Have you changed them around during =3D
> >your=3D20
> > reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Start with a new SCSI cable =
>and a =3D
> >single EDS=3D20
> > card. Test each MEC. Once you know if there is a problem there, add
=
>a
> =3D
> >new SCSI=3D20
> > cable and another card. Put different modules in the MECs so you =
>can =3D
> >see which=3D20
> > one is on card A, B, C at all times. this will give you the info =
>=3D
> >as to=3D20
> > how the cards are initializing and which card is card A, B, C as =
>you =3D
> >start=3D20
> > adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were =
>working
> =3D
> >
> > perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't imagine it being
=
>a =3D
> >problem.=3D20
> > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue though. Your system
=
>=3D
> >will not=3D20
> > function with bad SCSI =3D
> >cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> >
> >
>
>
>
>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Guys,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm all set with the cables and the =
>which card is A=20
>bit.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rod you were right about what I was=20
>asking.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In any event I scaled down to one EDS =
>(Pretty sure=20
>that's card A right?!!!)</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and plugged it into each of my two =
>working=20
>Mecs. Paris will boot but</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>even internal clock was never found nor
=
>were the=20
>in/outs on each Mec.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The 442 on the other hand works like a
=
>champ one=20
>card only. I suspect</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>either all my Mecs are screwy now or =
>the SCSI=20
>cables are intermitant at best.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It's working fine with the 442 so I'm =
>sticking with=20
>that for today.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll add my EDS cards one by one and =
>see if that is=20
>back to normal.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for the help and if I need scsi
=
>cables what=20
>and where to buy them would be good info too.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mr Testy</FONT></DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
>t;=20
> wrote in message <A=20
> href=3D"news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>I
=
>think Tom=20
> was asking if there was a "3.0" version of the EDS card that =
>needed<BR>to be=20
> connected to the master. The answer to that would be no. <BR>Is this =
>what you=20
> were asking Tom?<BR>DJ's advice is very important though. I would do =
>it, if=20
> you haven't already.<BR>I don't want to sound like a "RTFM" kind of =
>guy, but=20
> the Paris manual describes<BR>this procedure pretty well.<BR>It's on =
>page 4=20
> and 5 of the 3.0 version.<BR>It kind of sounds to me like you may not
=
>be=20
> hooking up the correct eds card<BR>to the master mec.<BR>Rod<BR>"DJ"=20
> <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net>=20
> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
>in message=20
> =3D<BR>>news:46972376@linux...<BR>> This is really a =
>novice oriented=20
> question but . . .<BR>> It doesn't matter which card is the =
>"A"=20
> card<BR>> in your system as far as Paris' ID orientation=20
> right?<BR>><BR>> Yes, it does, and the orientation of the =
>slots=20
> you are using in =3D<BR>>combination with the orientation of the =
>ribbon=20
> cables will determine =3D<BR>>this. Have you changed them around =
>during your=20
> reconfiguration?<BR>><BR>> Start with a new SCSI cable and =
>a=20
> single EDS card. Test each MEC. Once<BR>=3D<BR>>you know if there =
>is a=20
> problem there, add a new SCSI cable and another =3D<BR>>card. Put =
>different=20
> modules in the MECs so you can see which one is on =3D<BR>>card A, =
>B, C at=20
> all times. this will give you the info as to how the =3D<BR>>cards =
>are=20
> initializing and which card is card A, B, C as you start =
>=3D<BR>>adding more=20
> hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were working =
>=3D<BR>>perfectly=20
> when I took my system off line. I can't imagine it being a =
>=3D<BR>>problem.=20
> Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue though. Your =
>=3D<BR>>system=20
> will not function with bad SCSI cables.<BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE =
>HTML=20
> PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
> Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=20
> http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
> =3D<BR>>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
>content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
> 6.00.6000.16414"=20
> =
>name=3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=
>D><BR>><BODY=20
> bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
> dir=3D3Dltr=3D20<BR>>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: =
>5px;=20
> MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; =
>MARGIN-RIGHT:=20
> 0px"><BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> <DIV>"Tom =
>Bruhl"=20
> <<A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=20
> wrote =3D<BR>>in message=3D20<BR>> <A href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:469723=
>76@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=
>p;=20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>This is really a =
>novice oriented=20
> =3D<BR>>question but . .=3D20<BR>> =20
> .</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>It doesn't matter which card is the =
>=3D<BR>>"A"=3D20<BR>> =20
> card</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>in your system as far as Paris' ID=20
> =3D<BR>>orientation=3D20<BR>> =20
> right?</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Yes, it does, and the =
>orientation=20
> of<BR>=3D<BR>>the slots=3D20<BR>> you are using in =
>combination with=20
> the orientation of the ribbon=3D20<BR>> cables will determine =
>this.=20
> Have you changed them around during =3D<BR>>your=3D20<BR>> =
>
> reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Start with a new SCSI =
>cable and a=20
> =3D<BR>>single EDS=3D20<BR>> card. Test each MEC. Once you =
>know if=20
> there is a problem there, add a<BR>=3D<BR>>new =
>SCSI=3D20<BR>> cable=20
> and another card. Put different modules in the MECs so you can =
>=3D<BR>>see=20
> which=3D20<BR>> one is on card A, B, C at all times. this =
>will give you=20
> the info =3D<BR>>as to=3D20<BR>> how the cards are =
>initializing and=20
> which card is card A, B, C as you =3D<BR>>start=3D20<BR>> =
>adding more=20
> hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were=20
> working<BR>=3D<BR>><BR>> perfectly when I took my system =
>off line. I=20
> can't imagine it being a =3D<BR>>problem.=3D20<BR>> Bent =
>pins on SCSI=20
> cables can be a serious issue though. Your system =3D<BR>>will=20
> not=3D20<BR>> function with bad SCSI=20
> =
>=3D<BR>>cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>=
>;</BODY></HTML><BR>><BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, =
>and=20
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| Re: Paris hardware troubles won't stop. HELP!!! [message #88053 is a reply to message #88045] |
Fri, 13 July 2007 09:47 |
Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
Registered: September 2005
|
Senior Member |
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Yeah, there should be only 1 scherzo per card. Here's a question. Are letting
Paris autofind the drivers? if so, are you sure you don'e have any of the
old (2.x)drivers on the drive? It should be loading the xp drivers.
Rod
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Rod,
>That's sounds good. I'll try that first. If it doesn't help
>I'm stripping down to one EDS/Mec and build from there
>if I can. =20
>
>I have been deleting the Scherzo drivers so that there is only
>one for each EDS card. I will continue to do that unless you
>think I should leave 5 Scherzos for one EDS card.
>Tom
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message =
>news:4697822f$1@linux...
>
> Tom....you need to hide your default project in a folder, or rename =
>it. Make
> Paris create it's own when it boots, based on the hardware it see's. =
>This
> is only during your trouble shooting phase. Once you get everything =
>ironed
> out, you can put the default ppj back. I ran into this problem when I
=
>was
> trouble shooting a while back.
> Rod
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Well here's what is happening.
> >
> >I looked very closely at the pins on the scsi cables and noticed
> >a slightly bent one or two on almost half of them (5). I think it's
> >from being careless about pushing them in. I straightened them
> >perfectly and yet still no luck with booting Paris. "No interface =
>=3D
> >attached
> >to the Master Card" is the message. I'm only using one mec to test.
> >I also tried the 442. Once in a while the Magma wouldn't turn on =
>with =3D
> >the
> >442 attached. I think that is because of the bent pins. That's good
=
>of
> >the Magma. I've tried all five cards, removed the A card and swapped
=
>it
> =3D
> >
> >with another still no luck.=3D20
> >
> >I'm lost in this quagmire now. I'm not even pissed about the busted
=
>mec
> >at this point. I want an answer to what is going on. The default =
>=3D
> >project=3D20
> >is looking for external word clock so that's my only choice although
=
>I
> >have tried it with no Lucid attached with the same results.
> >
> >I think I'll call Edmund.
> > "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.r.com> wrote in message =3D
> >news:469708c8$1@linux...
> >
> > That kinda totally sucks. Sorry.
> > rod
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >Hey Rod,
> > >Ya I've been swapping things out to no end just to be sure.
> > >I even had trouble getting it going with internal clock which =
>ruled
> > >out the Lucid in my mind.
> > >
> > >The latest news is I couldn't get it to boot at all with other =
>Mecs
> > >being the master. In the process I smoked the original Mec A
> > >because the SCSI cable was half in at start up. I heard a crack
> > >and then the smell of burning chips. It still powers up but it's
=
>out
> > >of the picture now. Loaded with modules too.
> > >
> > >Now nothing gets it going except maybe the lowly 442. I'll try
> > >that next. I have a local engineer coming over to see what=3D3D20
> > >Paris can do. He's very well respected in these parts.
> > >To bad I'm down for the count it seems.
> > >Ass
> > >
> > > "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message =3D3D
> > >news:4696c93b$1@linux...
> > >
> > > Tom, have you done anything to rule out the possibility that it
=
>may
> =3D
> >be
> > =3D3D
> > >a funky
> > > MEC word clock connection, or perhaps the Lucid clock is flakey.
=
>Or
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >even
> > > a bad mogami wordclock cable (I know that's a longshot, but =3D
> >anything's
> > =3D3D
> > >possible)
> > > Just a thought.
> > > Rod
> > > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Deej,
> > > >Ya, I've uninstalled, reinstalled Paris about five times total
=
>in
> =3D
> >the
> > =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >last day and a half.
> > > >I am close to starting from scratch and possibly doing the =3D
> >antipace =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >thing.
> > > >I'm getting pretty good at it. I have Mec 1 loaded with cards
=
>=3D3D
> > >attached
> > > =3D3D3D
> > > >to what has always
> > > >been Card A for three years. Can that change? Paris works fine
=
>=3D
> >with =3D3D
> > >just
> > > =3D3D3D
> > > >that one. I'll try=3D3D3D20
> > > >all the others in that position just to see though.
> > > >
> > > >I am close to starting from scratch and possibly doing the =3D
> >antipace =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >thing. How could that be=3D3D3D20
> > > >the evil that won't allow hardware to show up?
> > > >Thanks,
> > > >Tom
> > > > "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message =
>=3D3D3D
> > > >news:4696229c$1@linux...
> > > > Have you tested each MEC individually? I'd start there. Did =
>you
> =3D
> >=3D3D3D
> > > >iuninstall/reinstall Paris yet?
> > > > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =3D3D3D
> > > >news:4695d5bf@linux...
> > > > Sorry to shout but this is driving me insane.
> > > >
> > > > I am working with a cloned drive that used to work with
> > > > 2 Mecs and WC. Now no matter what I do, I can not
> > > > get a second Mec to show up and receive clock. It
> > > > doesn't matter if it's at the end of the line or anywhere
> > > > else. It doesn't matter if it's internally clocked or =3D
> >externally
> > > > clocked. I've changed Mecs, clock cables, SCSI cables
> > > > and no changes. I've even tried a reinstall of Paris.
> > > > Same deal. =3D3D3D20
> > > >
> > > > I must be doing something totally wrong for this to =
>continue.
> > > > The only thing else I can think to try is swapping the =3D
> >last=3D3D3D20
> > > > EDS card with another or go down to four. Maybe it's
> > > > card 5? Or, triple check the connectors between all the =
>cards
> > > > again.
> > > >
> > > > All EDS cards are up and running and play audio with Paris
=
>=3D3D
> > >effects.
> > > > All 5 cards share 3 IRQs with nothing else.
> > > > What else is there?
> > > > Sadly,
> > > > Tom
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> > > > http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =3D3D20
> > > >
> > > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> > > ><HTML><HEAD>
> > > ><META http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type =
>content=3D3D3D3D"text/html; =3D
> >=3D3D3D
> > > >charset=3D3D3D3Diso-8859-1">
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>name=3D3D3D3DGENERATOR>
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> > > ></HEAD>
> > > ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Deej,</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Ya, I've =
>uninstalled, =3D3D
> > >reinstalled Paris
> > > =3D3D3D
> > > >about five=3D3D3D20
> > > >times total in the last day and a half.</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>I am close to =
>starting =3D
> >from =3D3D
> > >scratch and
> > > =3D3D3D
> > > >possibly=3D3D3D20
> > > >doing the antipace thing.</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>I'm getting pretty
=
>good =3D
> >at it. I
> > =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >have Mec 1=3D3D3D20
> > > >loaded with cards attached to what has always</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>been Card A for =
>three =3D
> >years. Can
> > =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >that change?=3D3D3D20
> > > >Paris works fine with just that one. I'll try </FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>all the others in
=
>that =3D
> >=3D3D
> > ></FONT><FONT =3D3D3D
> > > >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D3D20
> > > >size=3D3D3D3D2>position just to see though.</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>I am close to =
>starting =3D
> >from =3D3D
> > >scratch and
> > > =3D3D3D
> > > >possibly=3D3D3D20
> > > >doing the antipace thing. How could that be </FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>the evil that =
>won't allow
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >hardware to =3D3D3D
> > > >show=3D3D3D20
> > > >up?</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
>size=3D3D3D3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20
> > > >style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; =
>MARGIN-LEFT: =3D
> >5px; =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > > > <DIV>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message
=
><A
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >
> > > > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D3D3D"news:4696229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Have you tested
=
>each =3D
> >MEC =3D3D3D
> > > >individually? I'd start=3D3D3D20
> > > > there. Did you iuninstall/reinstall Paris yet?</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20
> > > > style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; =
>MARGIN-LEFT:
> =3D
> >5px;
> > =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > > > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D3D20
> > > > =3D
> >href=3D3D3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
>=3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >wrote in=3D3D3D20
> > > > message <A =3D3D3D
> > > =
>>href=3D3D3D3D"news:4695d5bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Sorry to shout
=
>but =3D
> >this is =3D3D
> > >driving
> > > =3D3D3D
> > > >me=3D3D3D20
> > > > insane.</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>I am working =
>with a =3D
> >cloned =3D3D
> > >drive =3D3D3D
> > > >that used to=3D3D3D20
> > > > work with</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>2 Mecs and WC.
=
>=3D
> ></FONT><FONT
> > =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D3D20
> > > > size=3D3D3D3D2>Now no matter what I do, I can =
>not</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>get a second =
>Mec to =3D
> >show up
> > =3D3D
> > >and =3D3D3D
> > > >receive=3D3D3D20
> > > > clock. It</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>doesn't matter
=
>if =3D
> >it's at =3D3D
> > >the end =3D3D3D
> > > >of the line=3D3D3D20
> > > > or anywhere</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>else. It =
>doesn't =3D
> >matter if =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >it's=3D3D3D20
> > > > internally clocked or externally</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>clocked. I've
=
>changed
> =3D
> >Mecs,
> > =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >clock cables,=3D3D3D20
> > > > SCSI cables</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>and no =
>changes. I've
> =3D
> >even =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >tried a=3D3D3D20
> > > > reinstall of Paris.</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Same deal. =3D
> ></FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>I must be =
>doing =3D
> >something =3D3D
> > >totally =3D3D3D
> > > >wrong for=3D3D3D20
> > > > this to continue.</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>The only thing
=
>else I
> =3D
> >can =3D3D
> > >think to
> > > =3D3D3D
> > > >try is=3D3D3D20
> > > > swapping the last </FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>EDS card with
=
>another
> =3D
> >or go
> > =3D3D
> > >down to
> > > =3D3D3D
> > > >four. =3D3D3D20
> > > > Maybe it's</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>card 5? Or, =
>triple =3D
> >check the
> > =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >connectors=3D3D3D20
> > > > between all the cards</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
>size=3D3D3D3D2>again.</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>All EDS cards
=
>are up
> =3D
> >and =3D3D
> > >running =3D3D3D
> > > >and play audio=3D3D3D20
> > > > with Paris effects.</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>All 5 cards =
>share 3 =3D
> >IRQs =3D3D
> > >with =3D3D3D
> > > >nothing=3D3D3D20
> > > > else.</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>What else is =
>=3D3D
> > >there?</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
>size=3D3D3D3D2>Sadly,</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
>size=3D3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT size=3D3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft =
>Lockspam to
> =3D
> >fight
> > =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >spam, and=3D3D3D20
> > > > you?<BR><A=3D3D3D20
> > > > =3D3D3D
> > > =3D3D
> > =3D
> =
>>>>href=3D3D3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.=
>com=3D
> >/re=3D3D
> > >fer=3D3D3D
> > > >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY>=3D3D3D
> > > ></HTML>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> > ><HTML><HEAD>
> > ><META http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html; =
>=3D3D
> > >charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1">
> > ><META content=3D3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3D3DGENERATOR>
> > ><STYLE></STYLE>
> > ></HEAD>
> > ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Hey Rod,</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Ya I've been swapping =
>things out
> =3D
> >to no
> > =3D3D
> > >end just to=3D3D20
> > >be sure.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I even had trouble =
>getting it =3D
> >going =3D3D
> > >with internal=3D3D20
> > >clock which ruled</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>out the Lucid in my =3D
> >mind.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>The latest news is I =
>couldn't =3D
> >get it to
> > =3D3D
> > >boot at all=3D3D20
> > >with other Mecs</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>being the master. In the
=
>process
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >I smoked the=3D3D20
> > >original Mec A</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>because the SCSI cable =
>was half
> =3D
> >in at =3D3D
> > >start=3D3D20
> > >up. I heard a crack</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>and then the smell of =
>burning =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >chips. It still=3D3D20
> > >powers up but it's out</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>of the picture now. =
>Loaded with
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >modules=3D3D20
> > >too.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Now nothing gets it going
=
>except
> =3D
> >maybe
> > =3D3D
> > >the lowly=3D3D20
> > >442. I'll try</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>that next. I have a local
=
>=3D3D
> > >engineer coming=3D3D20
> > >over to see what </FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Paris can do. He's very =
>well =3D3D
> > >respected in=3D3D20
> > >these parts.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>To bad I'm down for the =
>count =3D
> >it=3D3D20
> > >seems.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Ass</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20
> > >style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
>5px; =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > > <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com=
></A=3D
> >>&g=3D3D
> > >t;=3D3D20
> > > wrote in message <A=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D3D"news:4696c93b$1@linux">news:4696c93b$1@linux</A>...</DIV><B=
>R>T=3D
> >om,=3D3D
> > > have=3D3D20
> > > you done anything to rule out the possibility that it may be a =
>=3D3D
> > >funky<BR>MEC=3D3D20
> > > word clock connection, or perhaps the Lucid clock is flakey. Or
=
>=3D3D
> > >even<BR>a bad=3D3D20
> > > mogami wordclock cable (I know that's a longshot, but =3D
> >anything's=3D3D20
> > > possible)<BR>Just a thought.<BR>Rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D20
> > > =
>href=3D3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D3D20
> > > wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Deej,<BR>>Ya, I've uninstalled, =3D3D
> > >reinstalled=3D3D20
> > > Paris about five times total in the =3D3D3D<BR>>last day and a =
>=3D3D
> > >half.<BR>>I am=3D3D20
> > > close to starting from scratch and possibly doing the =
>antipace=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D<BR>>thing.<BR>>I'm getting pretty good at it. I have =
>=3D3D
> > >Mec 1=3D3D20
> > > loaded with cards attached<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>to what has =3D3D
> > >always<BR>>been Card A=3D3D20
> > > for three years. Can that change? Paris works fine with =3D3D
> > >just<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>that=3D3D20
> > > one. I'll try=3D3D3D20<BR>>all the others in that position just
=
>=3D3D
> > >to see=3D3D20
> > > though.<BR>><BR>>I am close to starting from scratch and =3D3D
> > >possibly doing=3D3D20
> > > the antipace =3D3D3D<BR>>thing. How could that =
>be=3D3D3D20<BR>>the =3D3D
> > >evil that=3D3D20
> > > won't allow hardware to show =3D3D
> > >up?<BR>>Thanks,<BR>>Tom<BR>> "DJ"=3D3D20
> > > <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D<BR>>news:4696229c$1@linux...<BR>> Have you tested each =
>=3D3D
> > >MEC=3D3D20
> > > individually? I'd start there. Did you =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>iuninstall/reinstall =3D3D
> > >Paris=3D3D20
> > > yet?<BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D20
> > > href=3D3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>
=
>=3D
> >wrote =3D3D
> > >in message=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D<BR>>news:4695d5bf@linux...<BR>> Sorry to =3D3D
> > >shout but=3D3D20
> > > this is driving me insane.<BR>><BR>> I am =3D3D
> > >working with=3D3D20
> > > a cloned drive that used to work with<BR>> 2 Mecs =3D3D
> > >and=3D3D20
> > > WC. Now no matter what I do, I can not<BR>> =3D3D
> > >get a=3D3D20
> > > second Mec to show up and receive clock. =3D3D
> > >It<BR>> =3D3D20
> > > doesn't matter if it's at the end of the line or=3D3D20
> > > anywhere<BR>> else. It doesn't matter if =3D3D
> > >it's=3D3D20
> > > internally clocked or externally<BR>> =3D3D
> > >clocked. I've=3D3D20
> > > changed Mecs, clock cables, SCSI cables<BR>> and =3D3D
> > >no=3D3D20
> > > changes. I've even tried a reinstall of =3D3D
> > >Paris.<BR>> =3D3D20
> > > Same deal. =3D3D3D20<BR>><BR>> I must be doing =3D3D
> > >something=3D3D20
> > > totally wrong for this to continue.<BR>> The only =3D3D
> > >thing=3D3D20
> > > else I can think to try is swapping the =3D3D
> > >last=3D3D3D20<BR>> EDS=3D3D20
> > > card with another or go down to four. Maybe=3D3D20
> > > it's<BR>> card 5? Or, triple check the =3D3D
> > >connectors=3D3D20
> > > between all the cards<BR>> =3D3D20
> > > again.<BR>><BR>> All EDS cards are up and =3D3D
> > >running and=3D3D20
> > > play audio with Paris effects.<BR>> All 5 cards =3D3D
> > >share 3=3D3D20
> > > IRQs with nothing else.<BR>> What else is=3D3D20
> > > there?<BR>> Sadly,<BR>> =3D3D20
> > > Tom<BR>><BR>><BR>> I choose Polesoft =3D3D
> > >Lockspam to=3D3D20
> > > fight spam, and you?<BR>> <A=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com=
>/re=3D
> >fer=3D3D
> > >.html</A> =3D3D20
> > > <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D3D20
> > > Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=3D3D20
> > > http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type =
>content=3D3D3D3D"text/html;=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =3D3D
> > >content=3D3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D3D20
> > > 6.00.2800.1400"=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > >name=3D3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=3D3D
> > >D><BR>><BODY=3D3D20
> > > bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > >size=3D3D3D3D2>Deej,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> > > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Ya, I've uninstalled, =3D
> >reinstalled=3D3D20
> > > Paris<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>about five=3D3D3D20<BR>>times total in the
=
>last =3D
> >day =3D3D
> > >and a=3D3D20
> > > half.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D3D
> > >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D3D2>I am close to starting from scratch=3D3D20
> > > and<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>possibly=3D3D3D20<BR>>doing the =
>antipace=3D3D20
> > > thing.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D3D
> > >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D3D2>I'm getting pretty good at it. I =3D3D3D<BR>>have
=
>=3D
> >Mec=3D3D20
> > > 1=3D3D3D20<BR>>loaded with cards attached to what has=3D3D20
> > > always</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D3D
> > >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D3D2>been Card A for three years. Can =
>=3D3D3D<BR>>that=3D3D20
> > > change?=3D3D3D20<BR>>Paris works fine with just that one. I'll =
>=3D
> >try=3D3D20
> > > </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D3D2>all the others in that </FONT><FONT=3D3D20
> > > =
>=3D3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D3D20<BR>>size=3D3D3D3D2 >position just
=
>to
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >see=3D3D20
> > > though.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D3D
> > >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D3D
> > >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D3D2>I am close to starting from scratch=3D3D20
> > > and<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>possibly=3D3D3D20<BR>>doing the antipace =
>thing. How
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >could that be=3D3D20
> > > </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D3D2>the evil that won't allow hardware to=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D<BR>>show=3D3D3D20<BR>>up?</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV&g=3D3D
> > >t;<FONT=3D3D20
> > > face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > >size=3D3D3D3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D3D
> > >=3D3D20
> > > face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D3D
> > >size=3D3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20
> > > dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;
=
>=3D
> >PADDING-LEFT: =3D3D
> > >5px;=3D3D20
> > > MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; =
>=3D3D
> > >MARGIN-RIGHT:=3D3D20
> > > 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot =3D3D
> > >_=3D3D20
> > > net> wrote in message <A =3D3D3D<BR>><BR>> =
>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D3D'news:4696229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1@linux</A>...</DIV'>n=
>ews=3D
> >:46=3D3D
> > >96229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>=3D3D
> > >> =3D3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Have you tested =
>each =3D3D
> > >MEC=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D<BR>>individually? I'd start=3D3D3D20<BR>> there. Did =
>you=3D3D20
> > > iuninstall/reinstall Paris yet?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> > >
> > > <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
> > >style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;=3D3D20
> > > PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: =
>#000000
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >2px solid;=3D3D20
> > > MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Tom =3D3D
> > >Bruhl"=3D3D20
> > > <<A=3D3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:=
>arp=3D
> >egi=3D3D
> > >o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D<BR>>wrote in=3D3D3D20<BR>> message <A=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D3D'news:4695d5bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:=
>469=3D
> >5d5=3D3D
> > >bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=3D3D
> > >p; =3D3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Sorry to shout but
=
>=3D3D
> > >this is=3D3D20
> > > driving<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>me=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> > > insane.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> > ><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> > > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D3D
> > ></DIV><BR>> =3D3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>I am working with a
=
>=3D3D
> > >cloned drive=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D<BR>>that used to=3D3D3D20<BR>> work=3D3D20
> > > with</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> > ><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> > > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>2 Mecs and WC. =
></FONT><FONT=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
> > >size=3D3D3D3D2>Now no matter=3D3D20
> > > what I do, I can =3D3D
> > >not</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>get a second Mec to
=
>=3D3D
> > >show up and=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D<BR>>receive=3D3D3D20<BR>> clock.=3D3D20
> > > It</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> > ><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> > > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>doesn't matter if it's at the
=
>end =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D<BR>>of the=3D3D20
> > > line=3D3D3D20<BR>> or=3D3D20
> > > anywhere</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>else. It doesn't =
>=3D3D
> > >matter if=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D<BR>>it's=3D3D3D20<BR>> internally clocked or=3D3D20
> > > externally</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>clocked. I've =
>changed =3D3D
> > >Mecs,=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D<BR>>clock cables,=3D3D3D20<BR>> SCSI=3D3D20
> > > cables</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> > ><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> > > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>and no changes. I've even =
>=3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D<BR>>tried=3D3D20
> > > a=3D3D3D20<BR>> reinstall of=3D3D20
> > > Paris.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> > ><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> > > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Same deal.=3D3D20
> > > </FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> > ><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> > > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D3D
> > ></DIV><BR>> =3D3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>I must be doing =
>=3D3D
> > >something totally=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D<BR>>wrong for=3D3D3D20<BR>> this to=3D3D20
> > > continue.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>The only thing else
=
>I =3D3D
> > >can think=3D3D20
> > > to<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>try is=3D3D3D20<BR>> swapping the =3D3D
> > >last=3D3D20
> > > </FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> > ><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> > > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>EDS card with another or go =
>down =3D3D
> > >to<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>four.=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D20<BR>> Maybe=3D3D20
> > > it's</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> > ><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> > > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>card 5? Or, triple check =
>the=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D<BR>>connectors=3D3D3D20<BR>> between all the=3D3D20
> > > cards</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> > ><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> > > face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > >size=3D3D3D3D2>again.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D3D20
> > > </DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D3D
> > >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D3D2>All EDS cards are up and running =3D3D3D<BR>>and
=
>=3D
> >play=3D3D20
> > > audio=3D3D3D20<BR>> with Paris=3D3D20
> > > effects.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>All 5 cards share 3
=
>=3D3D
> > >IRQs with=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D<BR>>nothing=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> > > else.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> > ><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> > > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>What else is=3D3D20
> > > there?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> > ><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> > > face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > >size=3D3D3D3D2>Sadly,</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT size=3D3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose =3D3D
> > >Polesoft Lockspam=3D3D20
> > > to fight =3D3D3D<BR>>spam, and=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> > > you?<BR><A=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > =3D
> =
>>>href=3D3D3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com=
>/re=3D
> >fer=3D3D
> > =3D
> =
>>>'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=3D=
>3D=3D
> >
> > >>=3D3D3D<BR>>.html</A>=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > ></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY&=3D3D
> > =
>>gt;=3D3D3D<BR>></HTML><BR>><BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY ></HTML=3D3D
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> ><HTML><HEAD>
> ><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
> >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
> ><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
> ><STYLE></STYLE>
> ></HEAD>
> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Well here's what is =3D
> >happening.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I looked very closely at the =
>pins on =3D
> >the scsi=3D20
> >cables and noticed</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>a slightly bent one or two on =
>almost =3D
> >half of them=3D20
> >(5). I think it's</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>from being careless about =
>pushing them
> =3D
> >in. I=3D20
> >straightened them</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>perfectly and yet still no luck
=
>with =3D
> >booting=3D20
> >Paris. "No interface attached</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>to the Master Card" is the =3D
> >message. I'm only=3D20
> >using one mec to test.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I also tried the 442. Once in a
=
>=3D
> >while the=3D20
> >Magma wouldn't turn on with the</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>442 attached. I think that is =
>=3D
> >because of the=3D20
> >bent pins. That's good of</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>the Magma. </FONT><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3DArial=3D20
> >size=3D3D2>I've tried all five cards, removed the A card and swapped
=
>it=3D20
> ></FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>with another </FONT><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial
> =3D
> >size=3D3D2>still=3D20
> >no luck. </FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm lost in this quagmire now. =
>=3D
> >I'm not even=3D20
> >pissed about the busted mec</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>at this point. I want an answer
=
>=3D
> >to what is=3D20
> >going on. The default project </FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>is looking for external word =
>clock so =3D
> >that's my=3D20
> >only choice although I</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>have tried it with no Lucid =
>attached =3D
> >with the same=3D20
> >results.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I think I'll call =
>Edmund.</FONT></DIV>
> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>=3D
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.r.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.r.com</A>>=
>=3D
> > wrote=3D20
> > in message <A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D"news:469708c8$1@linux">news:469708c8$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>T=
>hat=3D
> > kinda=3D20
> > totally sucks. Sorry.<BR>rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> > href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20
> > wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Hey Rod,<BR>>Ya I've been swapping =3D
> >things out=3D20
> > to no end just to be sure.<BR>>I even had trouble getting it going
=
>=3D
> >with=3D20
> > internal clock which ruled<BR>>out the Lucid in my =3D
> >mind.<BR>><BR>>The=3D20
> > latest news is I couldn't get it to boot at all with other =3D
> >Mecs<BR>>being=3D20
> > the master. In the process I smoked the original Mec =3D
> >A<BR>>because=3D20
> > the SCSI cable was half in at start up. I heard a =3D
> >crack<BR>>and then=3D20
> > the smell of burning chips. It still powers up but it's =3D
> >out<BR>>of=3D20
> > the picture now. Loaded with modules too.<BR>><BR>>Now =3D
> >nothing=3D20
> > gets it going except maybe the lowly 442. I'll try<BR>>that=3D20
> > next. I have a local engineer coming over to see =3D
> >what=3D3D20<BR>>Paris=3D20
> > can do. He's very well respected in these parts.<BR>>To bad =3D
> >I'm down=3D20
> > for the count it seems.<BR>>Ass<BR>><BR>> "Rod Lincoln" =3D
> ><<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A=
>>&g=3D
> >t;=3D20
> > wrote in message =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>news:4696c93b$1@linux...<BR>><BR>> Tom,=3D20
> > have you done anything to rule out the possibility that it may=3D20
> > be<BR>=3D3D<BR>>a funky<BR>> MEC word clock connection, or =3D
> >perhaps the=3D20
> > Lucid clock is flakey. Or =3D3D<BR>>even<BR>> a bad mogami =3D
> >wordclock=3D20
> > cable (I know that's a longshot, but=3D20
> > anything's<BR>=3D3D<BR>>possible)<BR>> Just a =3D
> >thought.<BR>> =3D20
> > Rod<BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> > href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20
> > wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> =3D20
> > >Deej,<BR>> >Ya, I've uninstalled, reinstalled Paris =3D
> >about five=3D20
> > times total in the<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >last day and =3D
> >a=3D20
> > half.<BR>> >I am close to starting from scratch and =3D
> >possibly doing=3D20
> > the antipace =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >thing.<BR>> =3D
> >>I'm=3D20
> > getting pretty good at it. I have Mec 1 loaded with cards=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>attached<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>> >to what has=3D20
> > always<BR>> >been Card A for three years. Can that change? =3D
> >Paris=3D20
> > works fine with =3D3D<BR>>just<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >>that=3D20
> > one. I'll try=3D3D3D20<BR>> >all the others in that =3D
> >position=3D20
> > just to see though.<BR>> ><BR>> >I am close to =3D
> >
> > starting from scratch and possibly doing the antipace=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >thing. How could that=3D20
> > be=3D3D3D20<BR>> >the evil that won't allow hardware to show =3D
> >
> > up?<BR>> >Thanks,<BR>> >Tom<BR>> =3D
> >> =3D20
> > "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>> >news:4696229c$1@linux...<BR>> =3D
> >> Have=3D20
> > you tested each MEC individually? I'd start there. Did you =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >iuninstall/reinstall Paris yet?<BR>> =3D
> >> "Tom=3D20
> > Bruhl" <<A =3D
> >href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20
> > wrote in message =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >>news:4695d5bf@linux...<BR>> =3D20
> > > Sorry to shout but this is driving me=3D20
> > insane.<BR>> ><BR>> > I am =3D
> >working=3D20
> > with a cloned drive that used to work with<BR>> =3D20
> > > 2 Mecs and WC. Now no matter what I do, I =3D
> >can=3D20
> > not<BR>> > get a second Mec to show up =3D
> >and=3D20
> > receive clock. It<BR>> > doesn't =3D
> >matter if=3D20
> > it's at the end of the line or anywhere<BR>> =3D
> >> =3D20
> > else. It doesn't matter if it's internally clocked or=3D20
> > externally<BR>> > clocked. I've =3D
> >changed=3D20
> > Mecs, clock cables, SCSI cables<BR>> > =3D
> >and no=3D20
> > changes. I've even tried a reinstall of Paris.<BR>> =3D20
> > > Same deal. =3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >><BR>> =3D20
> > > I must be doing something totally wrong for =3D
> >this to=3D20
> > continue.<BR>> > The only thing else I =3D
> >can think=3D20
> > to try is swapping the last=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >> EDS card=3D20
> > with another or go down to four. Maybe it's<BR>> =3D20
> > > card 5? Or, triple check the connectors =3D
> >between=3D20
> > all the cards<BR>> > =3D
> >again.<BR>> =3D20
> > ><BR>> > All EDS cards are up and =3D
> >running and=3D20
> > play audio with Paris =3D3D<BR>>effects.<BR>> =3D
> >> =3D20
> > All 5 cards share 3 IRQs with nothing else.<BR>> =3D20
> > > What else is there?<BR>> =3D20
> > > Sadly,<BR>> > =3D20
> > Tom<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> =3D
> >> =3D20
> > I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?<BR>> =3D20
> > > <A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
>fer=3D
> >.html</A> =3D20
> > =3D3D20<BR>> ><BR>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC =3D
> >"-//W3C//DTD=3D20
> > HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"><BR>> =3D20
> > ><HTML><HEAD><BR>> ><META=3D20
> > http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D3D"text/html; =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >charset=3D3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>> ><META =3D
> >content=3D3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20
> > 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>> =3D20
> > ><STYLE></STYLE><BR>> =3D
> >></HEAD><BR>> =3D20
> > ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>> =3D
> >><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
> >size=3D3D3D3D2>Deej,</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Ya, I've =3D
> >uninstalled,=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>reinstalled Paris<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >>about=3D20
> > five=3D3D3D20<BR>> >times total in the last day and a=3D20
> > half.</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>I am close to starting from =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>scratch=3D20
> > and<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >>possibly=3D3D3D20<BR>> >doing=3D20
> > the antipace thing.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>I'm getting =3D
> >pretty good=3D20
> > at it. I<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >have Mec =3D
> >1=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > >loaded with cards attached to what has=3D20
> > always</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>been Card A for three years.=3D20
> > Can<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >that =3D
> >change?=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > >Paris works fine with just that one. I'll try=3D20
> > </FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2>all the others in that =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>></FONT><FONT=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>> >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > >size=3D3D3D3D2>position just to see=3D20
> > though.</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT =3D
> >
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D
> ></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>I am close to =3D
> >starting=3D20
> > from =3D3D<BR>>scratch and<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >possibly=3D3D3D20<BR>> >doing the antipace thing. How =3D
> >could that=3D20
> > be </FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>the evil that won't allow =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>hardware to=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>> >show=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > >up?</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT =3D
> >
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
> >size=3D3D3D3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
> >><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> > dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20<BR>> >style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =3D
> >0px;=3D20
> > PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: =3D
> >0px"><BR>> =3D20
> > > <DIV>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> =3D
> >wrote in=3D20
> > message <A =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> ><BR>> =3D
> >> =3D20
> > href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D'news:4696229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1@linux</A>...</DIV'>news=
>:46=3D
> >96229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>=3D
> >> =3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Have =3D
> >you tested=3D20
> > each MEC =3D3D3D<BR>> >individually? I'd =3D
> >start=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > there. Did you iuninstall/reinstall Paris=3D20
> > yet?</FONT></DIV><BR>> > <BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> > dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D
> >style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;=3D20
> > PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >
> > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: =3D
> >0px"><BR>> =3D20
> > > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" =3D
> ><<A=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arp=
>egi=3D
> >o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >wrote in=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > message <A =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D'news:4695d5bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:469=
>5d5=3D
> >bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=3D
> >p;=3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
> >size=3D3D3D3D2>Sorry=3D20
> > to shout but this is =3D3D<BR>>driving<BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >me=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D20
> > insane.</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20
> > </DIV><BR>> > <DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>I am working with a cloned =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>drive=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>> >that used to=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >> =3D20
> > work with</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
> >> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>2 Mecs and WC.=3D20
> > </FONT><FONT<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D
> >size=3D3D3D3D2>Now=3D20
> > no matter what I do, I can not</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
> >size=3D3D3D3D2>get a=3D20
> > second Mec to show up<BR>=3D3D<BR>>and =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >receive=3D3D3D20<BR>> > clock.=3D20
> > It</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>doesn't matter if =3D
> >it's at=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>the end =3D3D3D<BR>> >of the =3D
> >line=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > or =3D
> >anywhere</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
> >size=3D3D3D3D2>else.=3D20
> > It doesn't matter if =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >>it's=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > internally clocked or=3D20
> > externally</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
> >> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>clocked. I've =3D
> >changed=3D20
> > Mecs,<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >clock =3D
> >cables,=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > SCSI =3D
> >cables</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
> >size=3D3D3D3D2>and no=3D20
> > changes. I've even =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >tried =3D
> >a=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > reinstall of=3D20
> > Paris.</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Same deal.=3D20
> > </FONT></DIV><BR>> > =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20
> > </DIV><BR>> > <DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>I must be doing something =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>totally=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>> >wrong for=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >> this=3D20
> > to continue.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
> >> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>The only thing =3D
> >else I can=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>think to<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>> >try=3D20
> > is=3D3D3D20<BR>> > swapping the last=3D20
> > </FONT></DIV><BR>> > =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>EDS card with =3D
> >another or=3D20
> > go<BR>=3D3D<BR>>down to<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>> >four.=3D20
> > =3D3D3D20<BR>> > Maybe=3D20
> > it's</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>card 5? Or, =3D
> >triple check=3D20
> > the<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >>connectors=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > between all the=3D20
> > cards</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2>again.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D
> >> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>All EDS cards are =3D
> >up and=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>running =3D3D3D<BR>> >and play =3D
> >audio=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > with Paris=3D20
> > effects.</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =3D
> >
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>All 5 cards share =3D
> >3 IRQs=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>with =3D3D3D<BR>> >nothing=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > else.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
> >size=3D3D3D3D2>What=3D20
> > else is =3D3D<BR>>there?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2>Sadly,</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT =3D
> >size=3D3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I=3D20
> > choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >>spam,=3D20
> > and=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D20
> > you?<BR><A=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
>'>h=3D
> =
>>ttp://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re</A>=3D3D<B=
>=3D
> >R>>fer=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >.html</A>=3D20
> > =3D
> ></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY&=3D
> >gt;=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > ></HTML><BR>> ><BR>> =3D20
> > ><BR>><BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML =3D
> >4.0=3D20
> > Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=3D20
> > http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html;=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =3D
> >content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20
> > 6.00.2800.1400"=3D20
> > =3D
> >name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=3D
> >D><BR>><BODY=3D20
> > bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =3D
> >size=3D3D3D2>Hey=3D20
> > Rod,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>Ya I've been swapping things out to =
>no<BR>=3D3D<BR>>end =3D
> >just=3D20
> > to=3D3D20<BR>>be =3D
> >sure.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I even had trouble getting it going =
>=3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>with=3D20
> > internal=3D3D20<BR>>clock which=3D20
> > ruled</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>out the Lucid in my=3D20
> > mind.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>The latest news is I couldn't get it =3D
> >to<BR>=3D3D<BR>>boot at=3D20
> > all=3D3D20<BR>>with other=3D20
> > Mecs</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>being the master. In the process =3D3D<BR>>I =
>smoked=3D20
> > the=3D3D20<BR>>original Mec=3D20
> > A</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>because the SCSI cable was half in at =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>start=3D3D20<BR>>up.=3D20
> > I heard a crack</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>and then the smell of burning =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>chips. It=3D20
> > still=3D3D20<BR>>powers up but it's=3D20
> > out</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =3D
> >
> > size=3D3D3D2>of the picture now. Loaded with=3D20
> > =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>modules=3D3D20<BR>>too.</FONT></DIV><BR>><D=3D
> >IV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D
> ></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Now nothing gets it going except=3D20
> > maybe<BR>=3D3D<BR>>the lowly=3D3D20<BR>>442. I'll=3D20
> > try</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =3D
> >
> > size=3D3D3D2>that next. I have a local =3D3D<BR>>engineer =3D
> >coming=3D3D20<BR>>over=3D20
> > to see what </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>Paris can do. He's very well =3D3D<BR>>respected =3D
> >in=3D3D20<BR>>these=3D20
> > parts.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>To bad I'm down for the count=3D20
> > =3D
> >it=3D3D20<BR>>seems.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D
> >=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>Ass</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20
> > =3D
> ></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =3D
> >0px;=3D20
> > PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000
=
>=3D
> >2px solid;=3D20
> > MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Rod Lincoln"=3D20
> > <<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A=
>>&a=3D
> =
>>mp;g'>mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</=3D
> >A>&g</A>=3D3D<BR>>t;=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > wrote in message <A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D'news:4696c93b$1@linux">news:4696c93b$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>T=
>om'=3D
> >>news:4696c93b$1@linux">news:4696c93b$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=3D
> ><BR>Tom</A>,=3D3D<BR>>=3D20
> > have=3D3D20<BR>> you done anything to rule out the possibility =3D
> >that it=3D20
> > may be a =3D3D<BR>>funky<BR>MEC=3D3D20<BR>> word clock =3D
> >connection,=3D20
> > or perhaps the Lucid clock is flakey. Or =3D3D<BR>>even<BR>a=3D20
> > bad=3D3D20<BR>> mogami wordclock cable (I know that's a =3D
> >longshot, but=3D20
> > anything's=3D3D20<BR>> possible)<BR>Just a=3D20
> > thought.<BR>Rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl" =3D
> ><<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D3D20'>m=
>ailto=3D
> >:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D3D20</A><BR>&g=3D
> >t; =3D20
> > wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Deej,<BR>>Ya, =3D
> >I've=3D20
> > uninstalled, =3D3D<BR>>reinstalled=3D3D20<BR>> Paris about =3D
> >five times=3D20
> > total in the =3D3D3D<BR>>last day and a =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>half.<BR>>I=3D20
> > am=3D3D20<BR>> close to starting from scratch and possibly =3D
> >doing the=3D20
> > antipace=3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>>thing.<BR>>I'm =3D
> >getting=3D20
> > pretty good at it. I have =3D3D<BR>>Mec 1=3D3D20<BR>> loaded =3D
> >with cards=3D20
> > attached<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>to what has=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>always<BR>>been Card A=3D3D20<BR>> for =3D
> >three years. Can=3D20
> > that change? Paris works fine with=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>just<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>that=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >one. I'll=3D20
> > try=3D3D3D20<BR>>all the others in that position just =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>to=3D20
> > see=3D3D20<BR>> though.<BR>><BR>>I am close =3D
> >to starting=3D20
> > from scratch and =3D3D<BR>>possibly doing=3D3D20<BR>> the =3D
> >antipace=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>thing. How could that be=3D3D3D20<BR>>the =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>evil=3D20
> > that=3D3D20<BR>> won't allow hardware to show=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>up?<BR>>Thanks,<BR>>Tom<BR>>=3D20
> > "DJ"=3D3D20<BR>> <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote =3D
> >in=3D20
> > message=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>news:4696229c$1@linux...<BR>> Have you =3D
> >tested each=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>MEC=3D3D20<BR>> individually? I'd start there. Did =3D
> >you=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>iuninstall/reinstall =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>Paris=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > yet?<BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arp=
>egi=3D
> >o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D20
> > wrote =3D3D<BR>>in message=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>news:4695d5bf@linux...<BR>> Sorry to =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>shout=3D20
> > but=3D3D20<BR>> this is driving me =3D
> >insane.<BR>><BR>> I=3D20
> > am =3D3D<BR>>working with=3D3D20<BR>> a cloned drive that used =3D
> >to work=3D20
> > with<BR>> 2 Mecs =3D3D<BR>>and=3D3D20<BR>> WC. Now no =3D
> >matter what=3D20
> > I do, I can not<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>get a=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >second Mec to=3D20
> > show up and receive clock. =3D3D<BR>>It<BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D20<BR>> doesn't=3D20
> > matter if it's at the end of the line or=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > anywhere<BR>> else. It doesn't matter if=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>it's=3D3D20<BR>> internally clocked or =3D
> >externally<BR>>=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>clocked. I've=3D3D20<BR>> changed Mecs, clock =3D
> >cables, SCSI=3D20
> > cables<BR>> and =3D3D<BR>>no=3D3D20<BR>> changes. =3D
> >I've even tried=3D20
> > a reinstall of =3D3D<BR>>Paris.<BR>> =3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >Same deal.=3D20
> > =3D3D3D20<BR>><BR>> I must be doing=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>something=3D3D20<BR>> totally wrong for this to=3D20
> > continue.<BR>> The only =3D3D<BR>>thing=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >else I can=3D20
> > think to try is swapping the =3D3D<BR>>last=3D3D3D20<BR>>=3D20
> > EDS=3D3D20<BR>> card with another or go down to four.=3D20
> > Maybe=3D3D20<BR>> it's<BR>> card 5? Or, triple check =3D
> >the=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>connectors=3D3D20<BR>> between all the =3D
> >cards<BR>>=3D20
> > =3D3D20<BR>> again.<BR>><BR>> All EDS cards =3D
> >are up and=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>running and=3D3D20<BR>> play audio with Paris=3D20
> > effects.<BR>> All 5 cards =3D3D<BR>>share =3D
> >3=3D3D20<BR>> IRQs with=3D20
> > nothing else.<BR>> What else is=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >there?<BR>>=3D20
> > Sadly,<BR>> =3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > Tom<BR>><BR>><BR>> I choose Polesoft=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>Lockspam to=3D3D20<BR>> fight spam, and =3D
> >you?<BR>>=3D20
> > <A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
>fer=3D
> =
>>'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=3D=
>
> >>=3D3D<BR>>.html</A>=3D20
> > =3D3D20<BR>> <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML =3D
> >PUBLIC=3D20
> > "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> >Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>>=3D
> ><META=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type =3D
> >content=3D3D3D3D"text/html;=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =3D
> >
> > =3D3D<BR>>content=3D3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >6.00.2800.1400"=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>name=3D3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE&=3D
> >gt;<BR>></HEA=3D3D<BR>>D><BR>><BODY=3D3D20<BR>&=3D
> >gt; =3D20
> > bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D3D2>Deej,</FONT></DIV><BR>>&l=3D
> >t;DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Ya, I've uninstalled,=3D20
> > reinstalled=3D3D20<BR>> Paris<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>about =3D
> >
> > five=3D3D3D20<BR>>times total in the last day =3D3D<BR>>and=3D20
> > a=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > half.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D3D2>I am =3D
> >close to starting=3D20
> > from scratch=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > and<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>possibly=3D3D3D20<BR>>doing the =3D
> >
> > antipace=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > thing.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D3D2>I'm =3D
> >getting pretty good=3D20
> > at it. I =3D3D3D<BR>>have Mec=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >1=3D3D3D20<BR>>loaded=3D20
> > with cards attached to what has=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > always</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D3D2>been =3D
> >Card A for three=3D20
> > years. Can =3D3D3D<BR>>that=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > change?=3D3D3D20<BR>>Paris works fine with just that one. I'll=3D20
> > try=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D3D2>all the others in =3D
> >that=3D20
> > </FONT><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D3D20<BR>>size=3D3D3D3D2 >p=3D
> >osition just=3D20
> > to =3D3D<BR>>see=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > though.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20
> > </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D3D2>I am =3D
> >close to starting=3D20
> > from scratch=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > and<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>possibly=3D3D3D20<BR>>doing the =3D
> >antipace=3D20
> > thing. How =3D3D<BR>>could that be=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > </FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D3D2>the evil that =3D
> >won't allow=3D20
> > hardware to=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>show=3D3D3D20<BR>>up?</FONT>&l=3D
> >t;/DIV><BR>><DIV&g=3D3D<BR>>t;<FONT=3D3D20<BR>>&n=3D
> >bsp;=3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV><BR>>=3D
> ><DIV><FONT=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV><BR>><=3D
> >BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; =3D
> >PADDING-LEFT:=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>5px;=3D3D20<BR>> MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT:=3D20
> > #000000 2px solid; =3D3D<BR>>MARGIN-RIGHT:=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>_=3D3D20<BR>> net> wrote in message <A=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>><BR>> href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >
> > =3D
> =
>>=3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D'news:4696229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1@linux</=3D
> >A>...</DIV'>news:46=3D3D<BR>>96229c$1@linux">news:4696229c$1=3D
> >@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>=3D3D<BR>>>=3D20
> > =3D3D20<BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
> >size=3D3D3D3D2>Have you=3D20
> > tested each =3D3D<BR>>MEC=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>individually? I'd=3D20
> > start=3D3D3D20<BR>> there. Did you=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >iuninstall/reinstall=3D20
> > Paris yet?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>><BR>> =3D20
> > <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20<BR>>=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >PADDING-LEFT: 5px;=3D20
> > MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 =3D
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> ><DIV>"Tom=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>Bruhl"=3D3D20<BR>> <<A=3D3D3D20<BR>>=3D20
> > href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>=3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net&l=3D=
>
> >t;/A'>mailto:arpegi=3D3D<BR>>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net<=3D
> >;/A</A>>>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>wrote in=3D3D3D20<BR>> message =3D
> ><A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D'news:4695d5bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux</A>=3D
> >;...</DIV'>news:4695d5=3D3D<BR>>bf@linux">news:4695d5bf@linux&l=3D
> >t;/A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=3D3D<BR>>p;=3D20
> > =3D3D20<BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
> >size=3D3D3D3D2>Sorry to=3D20
> > shout but =3D3D<BR>>this is=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > driving<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>me=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > insane.</FONT></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D3D<BR>></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> > =3D3D20<BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
> >size=3D3D3D3D2>I am=3D20
> > working with a =3D3D<BR>>cloned drive=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>that=3D20
> > used to=3D3D3D20<BR>> work=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > with</FONT></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
> >size=3D3D3D3D2>2=3D20
> > Mecs and WC. </FONT><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D3D2>Now=3D20
> > no matter=3D3D20<BR>> what I do, I can=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>not</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>get a second Mec =3D
> >to=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>show up and=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>receive=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >clock.=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > It</FONT></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2>doesn't matter if it's at the end =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>of=3D20
> > the=3D3D20<BR>> line=3D3D3D20<BR>> or=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >
> > anywhere</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>else. It doesn't=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>matter if=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>it's=3D3D3D20<BR>>=3D20
> > internally clocked or=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > externally</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>clocked. I've =3D
> >changed=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>Mecs,=3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>>clock=3D20
> > cables,=3D3D3D20<BR>> SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > cables</FONT></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
> >size=3D3D3D3D2>and=3D20
> > no changes. I've even =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>tried=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > a=3D3D3D20<BR>> reinstall of=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > Paris.</FONT></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2>Same deal.=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > </FONT></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D3D<BR>></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> > =3D3D20<BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
> >size=3D3D3D3D2>I must be=3D20
> > doing =3D3D<BR>>something totally=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>wrong=3D20
> > for=3D3D3D20<BR>> this to=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > continue.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>The only thing =3D
> >else I=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>can think=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >to<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>try=3D20
> > is=3D3D3D20<BR>> swapping the =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>last=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > </FONT></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
> >size=3D3D3D3D2>EDS=3D20
> > card with another or go down=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>to<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>four.=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D3D3D20<BR>> Maybe=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > it's</FONT></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2>card 5? Or, triple check the=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>connectors=3D3D3D20<BR>> between all=3D20
> > the=3D3D20<BR>> cards</FONT></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D3D2>again.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
> >
> > =3D3D20<BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> ></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> > <DIV><FONT =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >size=3D3D3D3D2>All=3D20
> > EDS cards are up and running =3D3D3D<BR>>and =3D
> >play=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > audio=3D3D3D20<BR>> with Paris=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
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| Re: Paris hardware troubles won't stop. HELP!!! [message #88058 is a reply to message #88052] |
Fri, 13 July 2007 11:17 |
Tom Bruhl
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
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Hey Rod,
Hiding the default project didn't help anything. I've never
had 2.?? installed on this comp so I think I'm safe there regarding
drivers.
I am only able to intermitantly get the 442 working as the master.
I think that's do to the scsi cable issue. I need four new ones.
I am unable to get more than one EDS card working WITH the 442.
Not sure why. The ribbons are all wired correctly.
I'm off to a hellish gigging weekend. No more time for hell in Paris.
Thanks for all your input,
Tom
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message =
news:4697ab8a@linux...
Did you try hiding the default ppj to see if it would boot up with a =
MEC when
creating a new session?=20
Rod
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Guys,
>I'm all set with the cables and the which card is A bit.
>Rod you were right about what I was asking.
>
>In any event I scaled down to one EDS (Pretty sure that's card A =3D
>right?!!!)
>and plugged it into each of my two working Mecs. Paris will boot but
>even internal clock was never found nor were the in/outs on each Mec.
>The 442 on the other hand works like a champ one card only. I =
suspect
>either all my Mecs are screwy now or the SCSI cables are intermitant =
at
=3D
>best.
>It's working fine with the 442 so I'm sticking with that for today.
>I'll add my EDS cards one by one and see if that is back to normal.
>
>Thanks for the help and if I need scsi cables what and where to buy =
them
=3D
>would be good info too.
>Mr Testy
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message =3D
>news:469780ce$1@linux...
>
> I think Tom was asking if there was a "3.0" version of the EDS card =
=3D
>that needed
> to be connected to the master. The answer to that would be no.=3D20
> Is this what you were asking Tom?
> DJ's advice is very important though. I would do it, if you haven't =
=3D
>already.
> I don't want to sound like a "RTFM" kind of guy, but the Paris =
manual
=3D
>describes
> this procedure pretty well.
> It's on page 4 and 5 of the 3.0 version.
> It kind of sounds to me like you may not be hooking up the correct =
eds
=3D
>card
> to the master mec.
> Rod
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =3D3D
> >news:46972376@linux...
> > This is really a novice oriented question but . . .
> > It doesn't matter which card is the "A" card
> > in your system as far as Paris' ID orientation right?
> >
> > Yes, it does, and the orientation of the slots you are using in =
=3D3D
> >combination with the orientation of the ribbon cables will =
determine
=3D
>=3D3D
> >this. Have you changed them around during your reconfiguration?
> >
> > Start with a new SCSI cable and a single EDS card. Test each =
MEC. =3D
>Once
> =3D3D
> >you know if there is a problem there, add a new SCSI cable and =3D
>another =3D3D
> >card. Put different modules in the MECs so you can see which one =
is =3D
>on =3D3D
> >card A, B, C at all times. this will give you the info as to how =
the
=3D
>=3D3D
> >cards are initializing and which card is card A, B, C as you start =
=3D
>=3D3D
> >adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were =3D
>working =3D3D
> >perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't imagine it being =
a
=3D
>=3D3D
> >problem. Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue though. =
Your
=3D
>=3D3D
> >system will not function with bad SCSI cables.
> >
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> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D20
> > href=3D3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
=3D
>wrote =3D3D
> >in message=3D3D20
> > <A =
href=3D3D3D"news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>This is really a novice =
=3D
>oriented =3D3D
> >question but . .=3D3D20
> > .</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>It doesn't matter which =
card =3D
>is the =3D3D
> >"A"=3D3D20
> > card</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>in your system as far =
as =3D
>Paris' ID =3D3D
> >orientation=3D3D20
> > right?</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, and the =
=3D
>orientation of
> =3D3D
> >the slots=3D3D20
> > you are using in combination with the orientation of the =3D
>ribbon=3D3D20
> > cables will determine this. Have you changed them around during =
=3D3D
> >your=3D3D20
> > reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Start with a new SCSI =
cable =3D
>and a =3D3D
> >single EDS=3D3D20
> > card. Test each MEC. Once you know if there is a problem there, =
add
=3D
>a
> =3D3D
> >new SCSI=3D3D20
> > cable and another card. Put different modules in the MECs so you =
=3D
>can =3D3D
> >see which=3D3D20
> > one is on card A, B, C at all times. this will give you the info =
=3D
>=3D3D
> >as to=3D3D20
> > how the cards are initializing and which card is card A, B, C as =
=3D
>you =3D3D
> >start=3D3D20
> > adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were =
=3D
>working
> =3D3D
> >
> > perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't imagine it =
being
=3D
>a =3D3D
> >problem.=3D3D20
> > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue though. Your =
system
=3D
>=3D3D
> >will not=3D3D20
> > function with bad SCSI =3D3D
> >cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> >
> >
>
>
>
>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
>
><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
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><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Guys,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm all set with the cables and =
the =3D
>which card is A=3D20
>bit.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Rod you were right about what I =
was=3D20
>asking.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>In any event I scaled down to =
one EDS =3D
>(Pretty sure=3D20
>that's card A right?!!!)</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>and plugged it into each of my =
two =3D
>working=3D20
>Mecs. Paris will boot but</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>even internal clock was never =
found nor
=3D
>were the=3D20
>in/outs on each Mec.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>The 442 on the other hand works =
like a
=3D
>champ one=3D20
>card only. I suspect</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>either all my Mecs are screwy =
now or =3D
>the SCSI=3D20
>cables are intermitant at best.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>It's working fine with the 442 =
so I'm =3D
>sticking with=3D20
>that for today.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'll add my EDS cards one by one =
and =3D
>see if that is=3D20
>back to normal.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks for the help and if I =
need scsi
=3D
>cables what=3D20
>and where to buy them would be good info too.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Mr Testy</FONT></DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
=3D
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A=
>&g=3D
>t;=3D20
> wrote in message <A=3D20
> =
href=3D3D"news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>I
=3D
>think Tom=3D20
> was asking if there was a "3.0" version of the EDS card that =3D
>needed<BR>to be=3D20
> connected to the master. The answer to that would be no. <BR>Is =
this =3D
>what you=3D20
> were asking Tom?<BR>DJ's advice is very important though. I would =
do =3D
>it, if=3D20
> you haven't already.<BR>I don't want to sound like a "RTFM" kind of =
=3D
>guy, but=3D20
> the Paris manual describes<BR>this procedure pretty well.<BR>It's =
on =3D
>page 4=3D20
> and 5 of the 3.0 version.<BR>It kind of sounds to me like you may =
not
=3D
>be=3D20
> hooking up the correct eds card<BR>to the master =
mec.<BR>Rod<BR>"DJ"=3D20
> <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net>=3D20
> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote =3D
>in message=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>news:46972376@linux...<BR>> This is really a =3D
>novice oriented=3D20
> question but . . .<BR>> It doesn't matter which card is the =3D
>"A"=3D20
> card<BR>> in your system as far as Paris' ID orientation=3D20
> right?<BR>><BR>> Yes, it does, and the orientation of the =3D
>slots=3D20
> you are using in =3D3D<BR>>combination with the orientation of the =
=3D
>ribbon=3D20
> cables will determine =3D3D<BR>>this. Have you changed them around =
=3D
>during your=3D20
> reconfiguration?<BR>><BR>> Start with a new SCSI cable and =3D
>a=3D20
> single EDS card. Test each MEC. Once<BR>=3D3D<BR>>you know if there =
=3D
>is a=3D20
> problem there, add a new SCSI cable and another =3D3D<BR>>card. Put =
=3D
>different=3D20
> modules in the MECs so you can see which one is on =3D3D<BR>>card =
A, =3D
>B, C at=3D20
> all times. this will give you the info as to how the =
=3D3D<BR>>cards =3D
>are=3D20
> initializing and which card is card A, B, C as you start =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>adding more=3D20
> hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were working =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>perfectly=3D20
> when I took my system off line. I can't imagine it being a =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D20
> Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue though. Your =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>system=3D20
> will not function with bad SCSI cables.<BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE =3D
>HTML=3D20
> PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D20
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>content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20
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> 0px"><BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
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>Bruhl"=3D20
> <<A=3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arp=
egi=3D
>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D20
> wrote =3D3D<BR>>in message=3D3D20<BR>> <A href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:469=
723=3D
>76@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=3D
>p;=3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>This is really a =3D
>novice oriented=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>question but . .=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> .</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>It doesn't matter which card is the =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>"A"=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> card</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>in your system as far as Paris' ID=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>orientation=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> right?</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D
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><DIV><BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, and the =3D
>orientation=3D20
> of<BR>=3D3D<BR>>the slots=3D3D20<BR>> you are using in =3D
>combination with=3D20
> the orientation of the ribbon=3D3D20<BR>> cables will determine =3D
>this.=3D20
> Have you changed them around during =3D3D<BR>>your=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>
> reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Start with a new SCSI =3D
>cable and a=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>single EDS=3D3D20<BR>> card. Test each MEC. Once you =3D
>know if=3D20
> there is a problem there, add a<BR>=3D3D<BR>>new =3D
>SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> cable=3D20
> and another card. Put different modules in the MECs so you can =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>see=3D20
> which=3D3D20<BR>> one is on card A, B, C at all times. this =3D
>will give you=3D20
> the info =3D3D<BR>>as to=3D3D20<BR>> how the cards are =3D
>initializing and=3D20
> which card is card A, B, C as you =3D3D<BR>>start=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>adding more=3D20
> hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were=3D20
> working<BR>=3D3D<BR>><BR>> perfectly when I took my system =3D
>off line. I=3D20
> can't imagine it being a =3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D20<BR>> Bent =3D
>pins on SCSI=3D20
> cables can be a serious issue though. Your system =
=3D3D<BR>>will=3D20
> not=3D3D20<BR>> function with bad SCSI=3D20
> =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>=3D
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><DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
spam, =3D
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>you?<BR><A=3D20
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>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hey Rod,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hiding the default project didn't help=20
anything. I've never</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>had 2.?? installed on this comp so I =
think I'm safe=20
there regarding</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>drivers.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am only able to intermitantly get the =
442 working=20
as the master.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think that's do to the scsi cable =
issue. I=20
need four new ones.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am unable to get more than one EDS =
card working=20
WITH the 442.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Not sure why. The ribbons are all =
wired=20
correctly.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm off to a hellish gigging =
weekend. No more=20
time for hell in Paris.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for all your input,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
t;=20
wrote in message <A=20
href=3D"news:4697ab8a@linux">news:4697ab8a@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Did =
you try=20
hiding the default ppj to see if it would boot up with a MEC =
when<BR>creating=20
a new session? <BR>Rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Guys,<BR>>I'm all set with the cables =
and the=20
which card is A bit.<BR>>Rod you were right about what I was=20
asking.<BR>><BR>>In any event I scaled down to one EDS (Pretty =
sure=20
that's card A =3D<BR>>right?!!!)<BR>>and plugged it into each of =
my two=20
working Mecs. Paris will boot but<BR>>even internal clock was =
never=20
found nor were the in/outs on each Mec.<BR>>The 442 on the other =
hand works=20
like a champ one card only. I suspect<BR>>either all my Mecs =
are=20
screwy now or the SCSI cables are intermitant =
at<BR>=3D<BR>>best.<BR>>It's=20
working fine with the 442 so I'm sticking with that for =
today.<BR>>I'll add=20
my EDS cards one by one and see if that is back to=20
normal.<BR>><BR>>Thanks for the help and if I need scsi cables =
what and=20
where to buy them<BR>=3D<BR>>would be good info too.<BR>>Mr=20
Testy<BR>> "Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
t;=20
wrote in message =
=3D<BR>>news:469780ce$1@linux...<BR>><BR>> I=20
think Tom was asking if there was a "3.0" version of the EDS card=20
=3D<BR>>that needed<BR>> to be connected to the master. =
The answer=20
to that would be no.=3D20<BR>> Is this what you were asking=20
Tom?<BR>> DJ's advice is very important though. I would do =
it, if you=20
haven't =3D<BR>>already.<BR>> I don't want to sound like a =
"RTFM"=20
kind of guy, but the Paris =
manual<BR>=3D<BR>>describes<BR>> this=20
procedure pretty well.<BR>> It's on page 4 and 5 of the 3.0=20
version.<BR>> It kind of sounds to me like you may not be =
hooking up=20
the correct eds<BR>=3D<BR>>card<BR>> to the master=20
mec.<BR>> Rod<BR>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ =
dot _=20
net> wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> =20
><BR>> > "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
in message=20
=3D3D<BR>> >news:46972376@linux...<BR>> =
> This is=20
really a novice oriented question but . . .<BR>> > =
It=20
doesn't matter which card is the "A" card<BR>> > in =
your=20
system as far as Paris' ID orientation right?<BR>> =
><BR>> =20
> Yes, it does, and the orientation of the slots you are =
using in=20
=3D3D<BR>> >combination with the orientation of the ribbon =
cables=20
will determine<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >this. Have you =
changed them=20
around during your reconfiguration?<BR>> ><BR>> =20
> Start with a new SCSI cable and a single EDS card. Test =
each MEC.=20
=3D<BR>>Once<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> >you know if =
there is a=20
problem there, add a new SCSI cable and =3D<BR>>another =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>card. Put different modules in the MECs so you can see which one =
is=20
=3D<BR>>on =3D3D<BR>> >card A, B, C at all times. this =
will give=20
you the info as to how the<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >cards =
are=20
initializing and which card is card A, B, C as you start=20
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >adding more hardware. the MEC i =
sent you is one=20
of 4 that were =3D<BR>>working =3D3D<BR>> >perfectly =
when I took my=20
system off line. I can't imagine it being =
a<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =20
>problem. Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue though.=20
Your<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >system will not function =
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<<A=3D3D20<BR>> > href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=20
=3D<BR>>wrote =3D3D<BR>> >in =
message=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
<A href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:469723=
76@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=
p;=20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>This =
is really a=20
novice =3D<BR>>oriented =3D3D<BR>> >question but .=20
.=3D3D20<BR>> > =
..</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>It =
doesn't matter=20
which card =3D<BR>>is the =3D3D<BR>> =
>"A"=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> card</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>in your system as =
far as=20
=3D<BR>>Paris' ID =3D3D<BR>> =
>orientation=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> right?</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> > <DIV><BR>> =
> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, and =
the=20
=3D<BR>>orientation of<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> >the=20
slots=3D3D20<BR>> > you are using in combination =
with the=20
orientation of the =3D<BR>>ribbon=3D3D20<BR>> > =
cables will=20
determine this. Have you changed them around during =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>your=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR >> > =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> > <DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>Start with a new SCSI cable =3D<BR>>and a =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>single EDS=3D3D20<BR>> > card. Test each MEC. =
Once you=20
know if there is a problem there, add<BR>=3D<BR>>a<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>> >new SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> > cable =
and another=20
card. Put different modules in the MECs so you =3D<BR>>can =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>see which=3D3D20<BR>> > one is on card A, B, C =
at all=20
times. this will give you the info =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =
>as=20
to=3D3D20<BR>> > how the cards are initializing and =
which card=20
is card A, B, C as =3D<BR>>you =3D3D<BR>> =
>start=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that =
were=20
=3D<BR>>working<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =
><BR>> > =20
perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't imagine it=20
being<BR>=3D<BR>>a =3D3D<BR>> =
>problem.=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue though. =
Your=20
system<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >will =
not=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> function with bad SCSI =3D3D<BR>> =20
=
>cables.</FONT></DIV>& ;lt;/DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></B=
ODY></HTML><BR>> =20
><BR>> ><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>I choose =
Polesoft=20
Lockspam to fight spam, and=20
you?<BR>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
<BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD> <BR>><META=20
http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
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content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
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name=3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE> <BR>></HEA=
D><BR>><BODY=20
bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
=
size=3D3D2>Guys,</FONT></DIV& ;gt; <BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm all set with the cables and the =
=3D<BR>>which=20
card is =
A=3D20<BR>>bit.</FONT></DIV> <BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Rod you were right about what I=20
=
was=3D20<BR>>asking.</FONT></DIV> <BR>><DIV><FO=
NT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>In any event I scaled down to one EDS=20
=3D<BR>>(Pretty sure=3D20<BR>>that's card A=20
right?!!!)</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>and plugged it into each of my two=20
=3D<BR>>working=3D20<BR>>Mecs. Paris will boot=20
but</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2>even internal clock was never found =
nor<BR>=3D<BR>>were=20
the=3D20<BR>>in/outs on each=20
Mec.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>The 442 on the other hand works like =
a<BR>=3D<BR>>champ=20
one=3D20<BR>>card only. I=20
suspect</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>either all my Mecs are screwy now or =3D<BR>>the=20
SCSI=3D20<BR>>cables are intermitant at=20
best.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>It's working fine with the 442 so I'm =
=3D<BR>>sticking=20
with=3D20<BR>>that for=20
today.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>I'll add my EDS cards one by one and =3D<BR>>see if =
that=20
is=3D20<BR>>back to=20
normal.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>Thanks for the help and if I need =
scsi<BR>=3D<BR>>cables=20
what=3D20<BR>>and where to buy them would be good info=20
too.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>Mr=20
=
Testy</FONT></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20 <BR>>style=3D=
3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=20
0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: =
#000000 2px=20
solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Rod Lincoln"=20
<<A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&a=
mp;g'>mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</=
A>&g</A>=3D<BR>>t;=3D20<BR>> =20
wrote in message <A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>I'>n=
ews:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV>&l=
t;BR>I</A><BR>=3D<BR>>think=20
Tom=3D20<BR>> was asking if there was a "3.0" version of the =
EDS card=20
that =3D<BR>>needed<BR>to be=3D20<BR>> connected to =
the master.=20
The answer to that would be no. <BR>Is this =3D<BR>>what=20
you=3D20<BR>> were asking Tom?<BR>DJ's advice is very =
important=20
though. I would do =3D<BR>>it, if=3D20<BR>> you haven't=20
already.<BR>I don't want to sound like a "RTFM" kind of =
=3D<BR>>guy,=20
but=3D20<BR>> the Paris manual describes<BR>this =
procedure pretty=20
well.<BR>It's on =3D<BR>>page 4=3D20<BR>> and 5 of =
the 3.0=20
version.<BR>It kind of sounds to me like you may=20
not<BR>=3D<BR>>be=3D20<BR>> hooking up the correct eds=20
card<BR>to the master =
mec.<BR>Rod<BR>"DJ"=3D20<BR>> =20
<animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net>=3D20<BR>> =20
wrote:<BR>><BR>>&a mp;lt;BR>><BR>> "Tom =
Bruhl"=20
<<A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=20
wrote =3D<BR>>in message=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>news:46972376@linux...<BR>> This is really =
a=20
=3D<BR>>novice oriented=3D20<BR>> question but . . =
..<BR>> It=20
doesn't matter which card is the =3D<BR>>"A"=3D20<BR>> =20
card<BR>> in your system as far as Paris' ID=20
orientation=3D20<BR>> right?<BR>><BR>> Yes, =
it does,=20
and the orientation of the =3D<BR>>slots=3D20<BR>> you are =
using in=20
=3D3D<BR>>combination with the orientation of the=20
=3D<BR>>ribbon=3D20<BR>> cables will determine =
=3D3D<BR>>this.=20
Have you changed them around =3D<BR>>during your=3D20<BR>> =
reconfiguration?<BR>><BR> > Start with a new SCSI =
cable and=20
=3D<BR>>a=3D20<BR>> single EDS card. Test each MEC.=20
Once<BR>=3D3D<BR>>you know if there =3D<BR>>is=20
a=3D20<BR>> problem there, add a new SCSI cable and another=20
=3D3D<BR>>card. Put =3D<BR>>different=3D20<BR>> =
modules in the=20
MECs so you can see which one is on =3D3D<BR>>card A, =
=3D<BR>>B, C=20
at=3D20<BR>> all times. this will give you the info as to how =
the=20
=3D3D<BR>>cards =3D<BR>>are=3D20<BR>> =
initializing and which=20
card is card A, B, C as you start =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>adding =
more=3D20<BR>> hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that =
were=20
working =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>perfectly=3D20 <BR>> =
when I took my=20
system off line. I can't imagine it being a=20
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D20 <BR>> Bent pins on =
SCSI cables=20
can be a serious issue though. Your=20
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>system=3D20<BR >> will not =
function with bad=20
SCSI cables.<BR>><BR>>& amp;lt;!DOCTYPE=20
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=3D<BR>>content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20<BR>> =20
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<DIV>"Tom=20
=3D<BR>>Bruhl"=3D20<BR>> <<A=3D3D20<BR>>=20
href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR>>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net&l=
t;/A'>mailto:arpegi=3D<BR>>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net<=
;/A</A>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
wrote =3D3D<BR>>in message=3D3D20<BR>> <A=20
href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR>>href=3D3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>=
;...</DIV'>news:469723=3D<BR>>76@linux">news:46972376@linux&l=
t;/A>...</DIV</A>>< ;BR>>&nbs=3D <BR>>p;=3D20=
<BR>> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>This is really a=20
=3D<BR>>novice oriented=3D20<BR>> =
=3D3D<BR>>question but .=20
.=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20<BR>> =20
.</FONT></DIV><BR> > <DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>It =
doesn't matter which=20
card is the =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>"A"=3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D20<BR>> =20
card</FONT></DIV><BR& gt;> <DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>in your =
system as far=20
as Paris' ID=3D20<BR>> =
=3D3D<BR>>orientation=3D3D20<BR& amp;gt;>=20
=3D20<BR>> right?</FONT></DIV><BR&am p;gt;>=20
<DIV><FONT =3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>>=20
=3D<BR>><DIV><BR>> =3D20<BR>> =
<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, and the=20
=3D<BR>>orientation=3D20<BR>> =
of<BR>=3D3D<BR>>the=20
slots=3D3D20<BR>> you are using in =3D<BR>>combination=20
with=3D20<BR>> the orientation of the =
ribbon=3D3D20<BR>> cables=20
will determine =3D<BR>>this.=3D20<BR>> Have you changed =
them around=20
during =3D3D<BR>>your=3D3D20<BR> > =
=3D<BR>><BR>> =20
reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV>&am p;lt;BR>>=20
=3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =
=3D20<BR>> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Start with a new =
SCSI=20
=3D<BR>>cable and a=3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>single=20
EDS=3D3D20<BR>> card. Test each MEC. Once you =3D<BR>>know =
if=3D20<BR>> there is a problem there, add=20
a<BR>=3D3D<BR>>new =3D<BR>>SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> =
cable=3D20<BR>> and another card. Put different modules in =
the MECs so=20
you can =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>see=3D20<BR >> =20
which=3D3D20<BR>> one is on card A, B, C at all times. this=20
=3D<BR>>will give you=3D20<BR>> the info =
=3D3D<BR>>as=20
to=3D3D20<BR>> how the cards are =3D<BR>>initializing=20
and=3D20<BR>> which card is card A, B, C as you=20
=3D3D<BR>>start=3D3D20<BR> ;> =3D<BR>>adding=20
more=3D20<BR>> hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that=20
were=3D20<BR>> =
working<BR>=3D3D<BR>>& ;lt;BR>>=20
perfectly when I took my system =3D<BR>>off line. =
I=3D20<BR>> can't=20
imagine it being a =3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D20<BR& ;gt;> =
Bent=20
=3D<BR>>pins on SCSI=3D20<BR>> cables can be a serious =
issue though.=20
Your system =3D3D<BR>>will=3D20<BR>> =
not=3D3D20<BR>>=20
function with bad SCSI=3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR> >=3D3D<BR>>cables.</FONT& amp;gt;</DIV></DIV>=
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size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
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| Re: Paris hardware troubles won't stop. HELP!!! [message #88063 is a reply to message #88058] |
Fri, 13 July 2007 15:08 |
Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
Registered: September 2005
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Tom, sounds like it probably is a scsi issue. Your running xp right? The new
Scherzo drivers are for xp verses 98 not for 3.0 verses 2.x
Come to think of it. you probably whoudn't have had any old drivers on your
xp sys drive anyway...never mind.
Rod
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Hey Rod,
>Hiding the default project didn't help anything. I've never
>had 2.?? installed on this comp so I think I'm safe there regarding
>drivers.
>
>I am only able to intermitantly get the 442 working as the master.
>I think that's do to the scsi cable issue. I need four new ones.
>I am unable to get more than one EDS card working WITH the 442.
>Not sure why. The ribbons are all wired correctly.
>
>I'm off to a hellish gigging weekend. No more time for hell in Paris.
>Thanks for all your input,
>Tom
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message =
>news:4697ab8a@linux...
>
> Did you try hiding the default ppj to see if it would boot up with a =
>MEC when
> creating a new session?=20
> Rod
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Guys,
> >I'm all set with the cables and the which card is A bit.
> >Rod you were right about what I was asking.
> >
> >In any event I scaled down to one EDS (Pretty sure that's card A =3D
> >right?!!!)
> >and plugged it into each of my two working Mecs. Paris will boot but
> >even internal clock was never found nor were the in/outs on each Mec.
> >The 442 on the other hand works like a champ one card only. I =
>suspect
> >either all my Mecs are screwy now or the SCSI cables are intermitant
=
>at
> =3D
> >best.
> >It's working fine with the 442 so I'm sticking with that for today.
> >I'll add my EDS cards one by one and see if that is back to normal.
> >
> >Thanks for the help and if I need scsi cables what and where to buy =
>them
> =3D
> >would be good info too.
> >Mr Testy
> > "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message =3D
> >news:469780ce$1@linux...
> >
> > I think Tom was asking if there was a "3.0" version of the EDS card
=
>=3D
> >that needed
> > to be connected to the master. The answer to that would be no.=3D20
> > Is this what you were asking Tom?
> > DJ's advice is very important though. I would do it, if you haven't
=
>=3D
> >already.
> > I don't want to sound like a "RTFM" kind of guy, but the Paris =
>manual
> =3D
> >describes
> > this procedure pretty well.
> > It's on page 4 and 5 of the 3.0 version.
> > It kind of sounds to me like you may not be hooking up the correct
=
>eds
> =3D
> >card
> > to the master mec.
> > Rod
> > "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =3D3D
> > >news:46972376@linux...
> > > This is really a novice oriented question but . . .
> > > It doesn't matter which card is the "A" card
> > > in your system as far as Paris' ID orientation right?
> > >
> > > Yes, it does, and the orientation of the slots you are using in
=
>=3D3D
> > >combination with the orientation of the ribbon cables will =
>determine
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >this. Have you changed them around during your reconfiguration?
> > >
> > > Start with a new SCSI cable and a single EDS card. Test each =
>MEC. =3D
> >Once
> > =3D3D
> > >you know if there is a problem there, add a new SCSI cable and =3D
> >another =3D3D
> > >card. Put different modules in the MECs so you can see which one =
>is =3D
> >on =3D3D
> > >card A, B, C at all times. this will give you the info as to how =
>the
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >cards are initializing and which card is card A, B, C as you start
=
>=3D
> >=3D3D
> > >adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were =3D
> >working =3D3D
> > >perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't imagine it being
=
>a
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >problem. Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue though. =
>Your
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >system will not function with bad SCSI cables.
> > >
> > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> > ><HTML><HEAD>
> > ><META http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html; =
>=3D3D
> > >charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1">
> > ><META content=3D3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16414" name=3D3D3DGENERATOR>
> > ><STYLE></STYLE>
> > ></HEAD>
> > ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff>
> > ><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20
> > >style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
>5px; =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D20
> > > href=3D3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>
=
>=3D
> >wrote =3D3D
> > >in message=3D3D20
> > > <A =
>href=3D3D3D"news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>This is really a novice
=
>=3D
> >oriented =3D3D
> > >question but . .=3D3D20
> > > .</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>It doesn't matter which
=
>card =3D
> >is the =3D3D
> > >"A"=3D3D20
> > > card</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>in your system as far =
>as =3D
> >Paris' ID =3D3D
> > >orientation=3D3D20
> > > right?</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > <DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, and the =
>=3D
> >orientation of
> > =3D3D
> > >the slots=3D3D20
> > > you are using in combination with the orientation of the =3D
> >ribbon=3D3D20
> > > cables will determine this. Have you changed them around during
=
>=3D3D
> > >your=3D3D20
> > > reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Start with a new SCSI =
>cable =3D
> >and a =3D3D
> > >single EDS=3D3D20
> > > card. Test each MEC. Once you know if there is a problem there,
=
>add
> =3D
> >a
> > =3D3D
> > >new SCSI=3D3D20
> > > cable and another card. Put different modules in the MECs so you
=
>=3D
> >can =3D3D
> > >see which=3D3D20
> > > one is on card A, B, C at all times. this will give you the info
=
>=3D
> >=3D3D
> > >as to=3D3D20
> > > how the cards are initializing and which card is card A, B, C as
=
>=3D
> >you =3D3D
> > >start=3D3D20
> > > adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were =
>=3D
> >working
> > =3D3D
> > >
> > > perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't imagine it =
>being
> =3D
> >a =3D3D
> > >problem.=3D3D20
> > > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue though. Your =
>system
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >will not=3D3D20
> > > function with bad SCSI =3D3D
> > >cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> ><HTML><HEAD>
> ><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
> >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
> ><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
> ><STYLE></STYLE>
> ></HEAD>
> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Guys,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm all set with the cables and
=
>the =3D
> >which card is A=3D20
> >bit.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Rod you were right about what I
=
>was=3D20
> >asking.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>In any event I scaled down to =
>one EDS =3D
> >(Pretty sure=3D20
> >that's card A right?!!!)</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>and plugged it into each of my =
>two =3D
> >working=3D20
> >Mecs. Paris will boot but</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>even internal clock was never =
>found nor
> =3D
> >were the=3D20
> >in/outs on each Mec.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>The 442 on the other hand works
=
>like a
> =3D
> >champ one=3D20
> >card only. I suspect</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>either all my Mecs are screwy =
>now or =3D
> >the SCSI=3D20
> >cables are intermitant at best.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>It's working fine with the 442 =
>so I'm =3D
> >sticking with=3D20
> >that for today.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'll add my EDS cards one by one
=
>and =3D
> >see if that is=3D20
> >back to normal.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks for the help and if I =
>need scsi
> =3D
> >cables what=3D20
> >and where to buy them would be good info too.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Mr Testy</FONT></DIV>
> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>=3D
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A=
>>&g=3D
> >t;=3D20
> > wrote in message <A=3D20
> > =
>href=3D3D"news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>I
> =3D
> >think Tom=3D20
> > was asking if there was a "3.0" version of the EDS card that =3D
> >needed<BR>to be=3D20
> > connected to the master. The answer to that would be no. <BR>Is =
>this =3D
> >what you=3D20
> > were asking Tom?<BR>DJ's advice is very important though. I would =
>do =3D
> >it, if=3D20
> > you haven't already.<BR>I don't want to sound like a "RTFM" kind of
=
>=3D
> >guy, but=3D20
> > the Paris manual describes<BR>this procedure pretty well.<BR>It's =
>on =3D
> >page 4=3D20
> > and 5 of the 3.0 version.<BR>It kind of sounds to me like you may =
>not
> =3D
> >be=3D20
> > hooking up the correct eds card<BR>to the master =
>mec.<BR>Rod<BR>"DJ"=3D20
> > <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net>=3D20
> > wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> > href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
>wrote =3D
> >in message=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>news:46972376@linux...<BR>> This is really a =3D
> >novice oriented=3D20
> > question but . . .<BR>> It doesn't matter which card is the =3D
> >"A"=3D20
> > card<BR>> in your system as far as Paris' ID orientation=3D20
> > right?<BR>><BR>> Yes, it does, and the orientation of the =3D
> >slots=3D20
> > you are using in =3D3D<BR>>combination with the orientation of the
=
>=3D
> >ribbon=3D20
> > cables will determine =3D3D<BR>>this. Have you changed them around
=
>=3D
> >during your=3D20
> > reconfiguration?<BR>><BR>> Start with a new SCSI cable and =3D
> >a=3D20
> > single EDS card. Test each MEC. Once<BR>=3D3D<BR>>you know if there
=
>=3D
> >is a=3D20
> > problem there, add a new SCSI cable and another =3D3D<BR>>card. Put
=
>=3D
> >different=3D20
> > modules in the MECs so you can see which one is on =3D3D<BR>>card =
>A, =3D
> >B, C at=3D20
> > all times. this will give you the info as to how the =
>=3D3D<BR>>cards =3D
> >are=3D20
> > initializing and which card is card A, B, C as you start =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>adding more=3D20
> > hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were working =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>perfectly=3D20
> > when I took my system off line. I can't imagine it being a =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D20
> > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue though. Your =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>system=3D20
> > will not function with bad SCSI cables.<BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE =3D
> >HTML=3D20
> > PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D20
> > Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=3D20
> > http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html;=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =3D
> >content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20
> > 6.00.6000.16414"=3D20
> > =3D
> >name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=3D
> >D><BR>><BODY=3D20
> > bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> > dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; =
>PADDING-LEFT: =3D
> >5px;=3D20
> > MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; =3D
> >MARGIN-RIGHT:=3D20
> > 0px"><BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> <DIV>"Tom =3D
> >Bruhl"=3D20
> > <<A=3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arp=
>egi=3D
> >o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D20
> > wrote =3D3D<BR>>in message=3D3D20<BR>> <A href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:469=
>723=3D
> >76@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=3D
> >p;=3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>This is really a =3D
> >novice oriented=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>question but . .=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > .</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>It doesn't matter which card is the =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>"A"=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > card</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>in your system as far as Paris' ID=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>orientation=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > right?</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D
> ><DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, and the =3D
> >orientation=3D20
> > of<BR>=3D3D<BR>>the slots=3D3D20<BR>> you are using in =3D
> >combination with=3D20
> > the orientation of the ribbon=3D3D20<BR>> cables will determine =3D
> >this.=3D20
> > Have you changed them around during =3D3D<BR>>your=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >
> > reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
> ><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Start with a new SCSI =3D
> >cable and a=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>single EDS=3D3D20<BR>> card. Test each MEC. Once you =3D
> >know if=3D20
> > there is a problem there, add a<BR>=3D3D<BR>>new =3D
> >SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> cable=3D20
> > and another card. Put different modules in the MECs so you can =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>see=3D20
> > which=3D3D20<BR>> one is on card A, B, C at all times. this =3D
> >will give you=3D20
> > the info =3D3D<BR>>as to=3D3D20<BR>> how the cards are =3D
> >initializing and=3D20
> > which card is card A, B, C as you =3D3D<BR>>start=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >adding more=3D20
> > hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were=3D20
> > working<BR>=3D3D<BR>><BR>> perfectly when I took my system =3D
> >off line. I=3D20
> > can't imagine it being a =3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D20<BR>> Bent =3D
> >pins on SCSI=3D20
> > cables can be a serious issue though. Your system =
>=3D3D<BR>>will=3D20
> > not=3D3D20<BR>> function with bad SCSI=3D20
> > =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>=3D
> >;</BODY></HTML><BR>><BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
> ><DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
>spam, =3D
> >and=3D20
> >you?<BR><A=3D20
> =
>>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
>fer=3D
> >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
> >
> >
>
>
><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
><HTML><HEAD>
><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
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><STYLE></STYLE>
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><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hey Rod,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hiding the default project didn't help=20
>anything. I've never</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>had 2.?? installed on this comp so I =
>think I'm safe=20
>there regarding</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>drivers.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am only able to intermitantly get the
=
>442 working=20
>as the master.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think that's do to the scsi cable =
>issue. I=20
>need four new ones.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am unable to get more than one EDS =
>card working=20
>WITH the 442.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Not sure why. The ribbons are all =
>wired=20
>correctly.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm off to a hellish gigging =
>weekend. No more=20
>time for hell in Paris.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for all your input,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
>t;=20
> wrote in message <A=20
> href=3D"news:4697ab8a@linux">news:4697ab8a@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Did =
>you try=20
> hiding the default ppj to see if it would boot up with a MEC =
>when<BR>creating=20
> a new session? <BR>Rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Guys,<BR>>I'm all set with the cables =
>and the=20
> which card is A bit.<BR>>Rod you were right about what I was=20
> asking.<BR>><BR>>In any event I scaled down to one EDS (Pretty =
>sure=20
> that's card A =3D<BR>>right?!!!)<BR>>and plugged it into each of =
>my two=20
> working Mecs. Paris will boot but<BR>>even internal clock was =
>never=20
> found nor were the in/outs on each Mec.<BR>>The 442 on the other =
>hand works=20
> like a champ one card only. I suspect<BR>>either all my Mecs =
>are=20
> screwy now or the SCSI cables are intermitant =
>at<BR>=3D<BR>>best.<BR>>It's=20
> working fine with the 442 so I'm sticking with that for =
>today.<BR>>I'll add=20
> my EDS cards one by one and see if that is back to=20
> normal.<BR>><BR>>Thanks for the help and if I need scsi cables =
>what and=20
> where to buy them<BR>=3D<BR>>would be good info too.<BR>>Mr=20
> Testy<BR>> "Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
>t;=20
> wrote in message =
>=3D<BR>>news:469780ce$1@linux...<BR>><BR>> I=20
> think Tom was asking if there was a "3.0" version of the EDS card=20
> =3D<BR>>that needed<BR>> to be connected to the master. =
>The answer=20
> to that would be no.=3D20<BR>> Is this what you were asking=20
> Tom?<BR>> DJ's advice is very important though. I would do =
>it, if you=20
> haven't =3D<BR>>already.<BR>> I don't want to sound like a =
>"RTFM"=20
> kind of guy, but the Paris =
>manual<BR>=3D<BR>>describes<BR>> this=20
> procedure pretty well.<BR>> It's on page 4 and 5 of the 3.0=20
> version.<BR>> It kind of sounds to me like you may not be =
>hooking up=20
> the correct eds<BR>=3D<BR>>card<BR>> to the master=20
> mec.<BR>> Rod<BR>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ =
>dot _=20
> net> wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> =20
> ><BR>> > "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
>in message=20
> =3D3D<BR>> >news:46972376@linux...<BR>> =
>> This is=20
> really a novice oriented question but . . .<BR>> > =
>It=20
> doesn't matter which card is the "A" card<BR>> > in =
>your=20
> system as far as Paris' ID orientation right?<BR>> =
>><BR>> =20
> > Yes, it does, and the orientation of the slots you are =
>using in=20
> =3D3D<BR>> >combination with the orientation of the ribbon =
>cables=20
> will determine<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >this. Have you =
>changed them=20
> around during your reconfiguration?<BR>> ><BR>> =20
> > Start with a new SCSI cable and a single EDS card. Test =
>each MEC.=20
> =3D<BR>>Once<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> >you know if =
>there is a=20
> problem there, add a new SCSI cable and =3D<BR>>another =
>=3D3D<BR>> =20
> >card. Put different modules in the MECs so you can see which one =
>is=20
> =3D<BR>>on =3D3D<BR>> >card A, B, C at all times. this =
>will give=20
> you the info as to how the<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >cards =
>are=20
> initializing and which card is card A, B, C as you start=20
> =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >adding more hardware. the MEC i =
>sent you is one=20
> of 4 that were =3D<BR>>working =3D3D<BR>> >perfectly =
>when I took my=20
> system off line. I can't imagine it being =
>a<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =20
> >problem. Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue though.=20
> Your<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >system will not function =
>with bad SCSI=20
> cables.<BR>> ><BR>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC=20
> "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"><BR>> =20
> ><HTML><HEAD><BR>> ><META=20
> http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html; =
>=3D3D<BR>> =20
> >charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>> ><META =
>content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=20
> 6.00.6000.16414" name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>> =20
> ><STYLE></STYLE><BR>> =
>></HEAD><BR>> =20
> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>> =
>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
> dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20<BR>> >style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =
>0px;=20
> PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =20
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
>0px"><BR>> =20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
>size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
> </DIV><BR>> > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl"=20
> <<A=3D3D20<BR>> > href=3D3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=20
> =3D<BR>>wrote =3D3D<BR>> >in =
>message=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
> <A href=3D3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:469723=
>76@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=
>p;=20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>This =
>is really a=20
> novice =3D<BR>>oriented =3D3D<BR>> >question but .=20
> .=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>It =
>doesn't matter=20
> which card =3D<BR>>is the =3D3D<BR>> =
>>"A"=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > card</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>in your system as =
>far as=20
> =3D<BR>>Paris' ID =3D3D<BR>> =
>>orientation=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > right?</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
> </DIV><BR>> > <DIV><BR>> =
>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, and =
>the=20
> =3D<BR>>orientation of<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> >the=20
> slots=3D3D20<BR>> > you are using in combination =
>with the=20
> orientation of the =3D<BR>>ribbon=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>cables will=20
> determine this. Have you changed them around during =
>=3D3D<BR>> =20
> >your=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
> reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
> </DIV><BR>> > <DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D3D2>Start with a new SCSI cable =3D<BR>>and a =
>=3D3D<BR>> =20
> >single EDS=3D3D20<BR>> > card. Test each MEC. =
>Once you=20
> know if there is a problem there, add<BR>=3D<BR>>a<BR>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>> >new SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> > cable =
>and another=20
> card. Put different modules in the MECs so you =3D<BR>>can =
>=3D3D<BR>> =20
> >see which=3D3D20<BR>> > one is on card A, B, C =
>at all=20
> times. this will give you the info =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =
>>as=20
> to=3D3D20<BR>> > how the cards are initializing and =
>which card=20
> is card A, B, C as =3D<BR>>you =3D3D<BR>> =
>>start=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that =
>were=20
> =3D<BR>>working<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =
>><BR>> > =20
> perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't imagine it=20
> being<BR>=3D<BR>>a =3D3D<BR>> =
>>problem.=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue though. =
>Your=20
> system<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >will =
>not=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > function with bad SCSI =3D3D<BR>> =20
> =
>>cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></B=
>ODY></HTML><BR>> =20
> ><BR>> ><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>I choose =
>Polesoft=20
> Lockspam to fight spam, and=20
> you?<BR>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
> <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
> Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=20
> http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
> =3D<BR>>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
>content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
> 6.00.2800.1400"=20
> =
>name=3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=
>D><BR>><BODY=20
> bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
> =
>size=3D3D2>Guys,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm all set with the cables and the =
>=3D<BR>>which=20
> card is =
>A=3D20<BR>>bit.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Rod you were right about what I=20
> =
>was=3D20<BR>>asking.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FO=
>NT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> =
></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>In any event I scaled down to one EDS=20
> =3D<BR>>(Pretty sure=3D20<BR>>that's card A=20
> right?!!!)</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>and plugged it into each of my two=20
> =3D<BR>>working=3D20<BR>>Mecs. Paris will boot=20
> but</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
>
> size=3D3D2>even internal clock was never found =
>nor<BR>=3D<BR>>were=20
> the=3D20<BR>>in/outs on each=20
> Mec.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>The 442 on the other hand works like =
>a<BR>=3D<BR>>champ=20
> one=3D20<BR>>card only. I=20
> suspect</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>either all my Mecs are screwy now or =3D<BR>>the=20
> SCSI=3D20<BR>>cables are intermitant at=20
> best.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>It's working fine with the 442 so I'm =
>=3D<BR>>sticking=20
> with=3D20<BR>>that for=20
> today.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>I'll add my EDS cards one by one and =3D<BR>>see if =
>that=20
> is=3D20<BR>>back to=20
> normal.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>Thanks for the help and if I need =
>scsi<BR>=3D<BR>>cables=20
> what=3D20<BR>>and where to buy them would be good info=20
> too.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D2>Mr=20
> =
>Testy</FONT></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR>>style=3D=
>3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=20
> 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: =
>#000000 2px=20
> solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Rod Lincoln"=20
> <<A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&a=
>mp;g'>mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</=
>A>&g</A>=3D<BR>>t;=3D20<BR>> =20
> wrote in message <A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>I'>n=
>ews:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV>&l=
>t;BR>I</A><BR>=3D<BR>>think=20
> Tom=3D20<BR>> was asking if there was a "3.0" version of the =
>EDS card=20
> that =3D<BR>>needed<BR>to be=3D20<BR>> connected to =
>the master.=20
> The answer to that would be no. <BR>Is this =3D<BR>>what=20
> you=3D20<BR>> were asking Tom?<BR>DJ's advice is very =
>important=20
> though. I would do =3D<BR>>it, if=3D20<BR>> you haven't=20
> already.<BR>I don't want to sound like a "RTFM" kind of =
>=3D<BR>>guy,=20
> but=3D20<BR>> the Paris manual describes<BR>this =
>procedure pretty=20
> well.<BR>It's on =3D<BR>>page 4=3D20<BR>> and 5 of =
>the 3.0=20
> version.<BR>It kind of sounds to me like you may=20
> not<BR>=3D<BR>>be=3D20<BR>> hooking up the correct eds=20
> card<BR>to the master =
>mec.<BR>Rod<BR>"DJ"=3D20<BR>> =20
> <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net>=3D20<BR>> =20
> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> "Tom =
>Bruhl"=20
> <<A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=20
> wrote =3D<BR>>in message=3D20<BR>> =20
> =3D3D<BR>>news:46972376@linux...<BR>> This is really =
>a=20
> =3D<BR>>novice oriented=3D20<BR>> question but . . =
>.<BR>> It=20
> doesn't matter which card is the =3D<BR>>"A"=3D20<BR>> =20
> card<BR>> in your system as far as Paris' ID=20
> orientation=3D20<BR>> right?<BR>><BR>> Yes, =
>it does,=20
> and the orientation of the =3D<BR>>slots=3D20<BR>> you are =
>using in=20
> =3D3D<BR>>combination with the orientation of the=20
> =3D<BR>>ribbon=3D20<BR>> cables will determine =
>=3D3D<BR>>this.=20
> Have you changed them around =3D<BR>>during your=3D20<BR>> =
>
> reconfiguration?<BR>><BR>> Start with a new SCSI =
>cable and=20
> =3D<BR>>a=3D20<BR>> single EDS card. Test each MEC.=20
> Once<BR>=3D3D<BR>>you know if there =3D<BR>>is=20
> a=3D20<BR>> problem there, add a new SCSI cable and another=20
> =3D3D<BR>>card. Put =3D<BR>>different=3D20<BR>> =
>modules in the=20
> MECs so you can see which one is on =3D3D<BR>>card A, =
>=3D<BR>>B, C=20
> at=3D20<BR>> all times. this will give you the info as to how =
>the=20
> =3D3D<BR>>cards =3D<BR>>are=3D20<BR>> =
>initializing and which=20
> card is card A, B, C as you start =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>adding =
>
> more=3D20<BR>> hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that =
>were=20
> working =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>perfectly=3D20<BR>> =
>when I took my=20
> system off line. I can't imagine it being a=20
> =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D20<BR>> Bent pins on =
>SCSI cables=20
> can be a serious issue though. Your=20
> =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>system=3D20<BR>> will not =
>function with bad=20
> SCSI cables.<BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE=20
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>4.0=3D20<BR>> =20
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> =3D<BR>>Bruhl"=3D20<BR>> <<A=3D3D20<BR>>=20
> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20<BR>> =20
> =
>=3D<BR>>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net&l=
>t;/A'>mailto:arpegi=3D<BR>>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net<=
>;/A</A>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
> wrote =3D3D<BR>>in message=3D3D20<BR>> <A=20
> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20<BR>> =20
> =
>=3D<BR>>href=3D3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>=
>;...</DIV'>news:469723=3D<BR>>76@linux">news:46972376@linux&l=
>t;/A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=3D<BR>>p;=3D20=
><BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>This is really a=20
> =3D<BR>>novice oriented=3D20<BR>> =
>=3D3D<BR>>question but .=20
> .=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20<BR>> =20
> .</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=20
> =3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>It =
>doesn't matter which=20
> card is the =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>"A"=3D3D20<BR>> =
>=3D20<BR>> =20
> card</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=20
> =3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>in your =
>system as far=20
> as Paris' ID=3D20<BR>> =
>=3D3D<BR>>orientation=3D3D20<BR>>=20
> =3D20<BR>> right?</FONT></DIV><BR>>=20
> <DIV><FONT =3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
> size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>>=20
> =3D<BR>><DIV><BR>> =3D20<BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, and the=20
> =3D<BR>>orientation=3D20<BR>> =
>of<BR>=3D3D<BR>>the=20
> slots=3D3D20<BR>> you are using in =3D<BR>>combination=20
> with=3D20<BR>> the orientation of the =
>ribbon=3D3D20<BR>> cables=20
> will determine =3D<BR>>this.=3D20<BR>> Have you changed =
>them around=20
> during =3D3D<BR>>your=3D3D20<BR>> =
>=3D<BR>><BR>> =20
> reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR>>=20
> =3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3DArial=20
> size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =
>=3D20<BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Start with a new =
>SCSI=20
> =3D<BR>>cable and a=3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>single=20
> EDS=3D3D20<BR>> card. Test each MEC. Once you =3D<BR>>know =
>
> if=3D20<BR>> there is a problem there, add=20
> a<BR>=3D3D<BR>>new =3D<BR>>SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> =
>
> cable=3D20<BR>> and another card. Put different modules in =
>the MECs so=20
> you can =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>see=3D20<BR>> =20
> which=3D3D20<BR>> one is on card A, B, C at all times. this=20
> =3D<BR>>will give you=3D20<BR>> the info =
>=3D3D<BR>>as=20
> to=3D3D20<BR>> how the cards are =3D<BR>>initializing=20
> and=3D20<BR>> which card is card A, B, C as you=20
> =3D3D<BR>>start=3D3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>adding=20
> more=3D20<BR>> hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that=20
> were=3D20<BR>> =
>working<BR>=3D3D<BR>><BR>>=20
> perfectly when I took my system =3D<BR>>off line. =
>I=3D20<BR>> can't=20
> imagine it being a =3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D20<BR>> =
>Bent=20
> =3D<BR>>pins on SCSI=3D20<BR>> cables can be a serious =
>issue though.=20
> Your system =3D3D<BR>>will=3D20<BR>> =
>not=3D3D20<BR>>=20
> function with bad SCSI=3D20<BR>> =20
> =
>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV>=
>;</BLOCKQUOTE>=3D<BR>>;</BODY></HTML><BR>>&=
>lt;BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
>spam,=20
> =
>=3D<BR>>and=3D20<BR>>you?<BR><A=3D20<BR>>href=3D3D" <A=20
> =
>href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=
>>=3D<BR>>.html</A>=20
> =
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| Re: Paris hardware troubles won't stop. HELP!!! [message #88098 is a reply to message #88063] |
Sat, 14 July 2007 21:42 |
Tom Bruhl
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
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Rod,
I am working from a clone that was totally good with two
fully loaded Mecs. I have to assume the drivers are good.
I'm looking for a good vendor for SCSI cables now.
They're called SCSI 2 right?
http://www.m2cables.com/SCSI2toSCSI2CablesHDB50MtoML6.html
I'm thinking of cleaning the female jacks on the mec and EDS to be
sure all is well. Any sprays anyone suggests? I've got Deoxit.
Good?
Tom
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message =
news:4697f7e2$1@linux...
Tom, sounds like it probably is a scsi issue. Your running xp right? =
The new
Scherzo drivers are for xp verses 98 not for 3.0 verses 2.x
Come to think of it. you probably whoudn't have had any old drivers on =
your
xp sys drive anyway...never mind.
Rod
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Hey Rod,
>Hiding the default project didn't help anything. I've never
>had 2.?? installed on this comp so I think I'm safe there regarding
>drivers.
>
>I am only able to intermitantly get the 442 working as the master.
>I think that's do to the scsi cable issue. I need four new ones.
>I am unable to get more than one EDS card working WITH the 442.
>Not sure why. The ribbons are all wired correctly.
>
>I'm off to a hellish gigging weekend. No more time for hell in =
Paris.
>Thanks for all your input,
>Tom
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message =3D
>news:4697ab8a@linux...
>
> Did you try hiding the default ppj to see if it would boot up with =
a =3D
>MEC when
> creating a new session?=3D20
> Rod
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Guys,
> >I'm all set with the cables and the which card is A bit.
> >Rod you were right about what I was asking.
> >
> >In any event I scaled down to one EDS (Pretty sure that's card A =
=3D3D
> >right?!!!)
> >and plugged it into each of my two working Mecs. Paris will boot =
but
> >even internal clock was never found nor were the in/outs on each =
Mec.
> >The 442 on the other hand works like a champ one card only. I =3D
>suspect
> >either all my Mecs are screwy now or the SCSI cables are =
intermitant
=3D
>at
> =3D3D
> >best.
> >It's working fine with the 442 so I'm sticking with that for =
today.
> >I'll add my EDS cards one by one and see if that is back to =
normal.
> >
> >Thanks for the help and if I need scsi cables what and where to =
buy =3D
>them
> =3D3D
> >would be good info too.
> >Mr Testy
> > "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message =3D3D
> >news:469780ce$1@linux...
> >
> > I think Tom was asking if there was a "3.0" version of the EDS =
card
=3D
>=3D3D
> >that needed
> > to be connected to the master. The answer to that would be =
no.=3D3D20
> > Is this what you were asking Tom?
> > DJ's advice is very important though. I would do it, if you =
haven't
=3D
>=3D3D
> >already.
> > I don't want to sound like a "RTFM" kind of guy, but the Paris =
=3D
>manual
> =3D3D
> >describes
> > this procedure pretty well.
> > It's on page 4 and 5 of the 3.0 version.
> > It kind of sounds to me like you may not be hooking up the =
correct
=3D
>eds
> =3D3D
> >card
> > to the master mec.
> > Rod
> > "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =3D3D3D
> > >news:46972376@linux...
> > > This is really a novice oriented question but . . .
> > > It doesn't matter which card is the "A" card
> > > in your system as far as Paris' ID orientation right?
> > >
> > > Yes, it does, and the orientation of the slots you are using =
in
=3D
>=3D3D3D
> > >combination with the orientation of the ribbon cables will =3D
>determine
> =3D3D
> >=3D3D3D
> > >this. Have you changed them around during your reconfiguration?
> > >
> > > Start with a new SCSI cable and a single EDS card. Test each =
=3D
>MEC. =3D3D
> >Once
> > =3D3D3D
> > >you know if there is a problem there, add a new SCSI cable and =
=3D3D
> >another =3D3D3D
> > >card. Put different modules in the MECs so you can see which =
one =3D
>is =3D3D
> >on =3D3D3D
> > >card A, B, C at all times. this will give you the info as to =
how =3D
>the
> =3D3D
> >=3D3D3D
> > >cards are initializing and which card is card A, B, C as you =
start
=3D
>=3D3D
> >=3D3D3D
> > >adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were =
=3D3D
> >working =3D3D3D
> > >perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't imagine it =
being
=3D
>a
> =3D3D
> >=3D3D3D
> > >problem. Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue =
though. =3D
>Your
> =3D3D
> >=3D3D3D
> > >system will not function with bad SCSI cables.
> > >
> > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> > ><HTML><HEAD>
> > ><META http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type =
content=3D3D3D3D"text/html; =3D
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> > >charset=3D3D3D3Diso-8859-1">
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name=3D3D3D3DGENERATOR>
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MARGIN-LEFT: =3D
>5px; =3D3D
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> > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D3D20
> > > =
href=3D3D3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>
=3D
>=3D3D
> >wrote =3D3D3D
> > >in message=3D3D3D20
> > > <A =3D
>href=3D3D3D3D"news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>This is really a =
novice
=3D
>=3D3D
> >oriented =3D3D3D
> > >question but . .=3D3D3D20
> > > .</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>It doesn't =
matter which
=3D
>card =3D3D
> >is the =3D3D3D
> > >"A"=3D3D3D20
> > > card</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>in your system =
as far =3D
>as =3D3D
> >Paris' ID =3D3D3D
> > >orientation=3D3D3D20
> > > right?</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > <DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, =
and the =3D
>=3D3D
> >orientation of
> > =3D3D3D
> > >the slots=3D3D3D20
> > > you are using in combination with the orientation of the =
=3D3D
> >ribbon=3D3D3D20
> > > cables will determine this. Have you changed them around =
during
=3D
>=3D3D3D
> > >your=3D3D3D20
> > > reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Start with a new =
SCSI =3D
>cable =3D3D
> >and a =3D3D3D
> > >single EDS=3D3D3D20
> > > card. Test each MEC. Once you know if there is a problem =
there,
=3D
>add
> =3D3D
> >a
> > =3D3D3D
> > >new SCSI=3D3D3D20
> > > cable and another card. Put different modules in the MECs so =
you
=3D
>=3D3D
> >can =3D3D3D
> > >see which=3D3D3D20
> > > one is on card A, B, C at all times. this will give you the =
info
=3D
>=3D3D
> >=3D3D3D
> > >as to=3D3D3D20
> > > how the cards are initializing and which card is card A, B, C =
as
=3D
>=3D3D
> >you =3D3D3D
> > >start=3D3D3D20
> > > adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that =
were =3D
>=3D3D
> >working
> > =3D3D3D
> > >
> > > perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't imagine it =
=3D
>being
> =3D3D
> >a =3D3D3D
> > >problem.=3D3D3D20
> > > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue though. Your =
=3D
>system
> =3D3D
> >=3D3D3D
> > >will not=3D3D3D20
> > > function with bad SCSI =3D3D3D
> > >cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =3D20
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> ><HTML><HEAD>
> ><META http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html; =
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> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Guys,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'm all set with the =
cables and
=3D
>the =3D3D
> >which card is A=3D3D20
> >bit.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Rod you were right about =
what I
=3D
>was=3D3D20
> >asking.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>In any event I scaled =
down to =3D
>one EDS =3D3D
> >(Pretty sure=3D3D20
> >that's card A right?!!!)</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>and plugged it into each =
of my =3D
>two =3D3D
> >working=3D3D20
> >Mecs. Paris will boot but</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>even internal clock was =
never =3D
>found nor
> =3D3D
> >were the=3D3D20
> >in/outs on each Mec.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>The 442 on the other hand =
works
=3D
>like a
> =3D3D
> >champ one=3D3D20
> >card only. I suspect</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>either all my Mecs are =
screwy =3D
>now or =3D3D
> >the SCSI=3D3D20
> >cables are intermitant at best.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>It's working fine with =
the 442 =3D
>so I'm =3D3D
> >sticking with=3D3D20
> >that for today.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'll add my EDS cards one =
by one
=3D
>and =3D3D
> >see if that is=3D3D20
> >back to normal.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Thanks for the help and =
if I =3D
>need scsi
> =3D3D
> >cables what=3D3D20
> >and where to buy them would be good info too.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Mr Testy</FONT></DIV>
> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20
> >style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px; =3D
>=3D3D
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=3D3D20
> > =3D3D
> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com=
</A=3D
>>&g=3D3D
> >t;=3D3D20
> > wrote in message <A=3D3D20
> > =3D
=
>href=3D3D3D"news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR=
>I
> =3D3D
> >think Tom=3D3D20
> > was asking if there was a "3.0" version of the EDS card that =
=3D3D
> >needed<BR>to be=3D3D20
> > connected to the master. The answer to that would be no. <BR>Is =
=3D
>this =3D3D
> >what you=3D3D20
> > were asking Tom?<BR>DJ's advice is very important though. I =
would =3D
>do =3D3D
> >it, if=3D3D20
> > you haven't already.<BR>I don't want to sound like a "RTFM" kind =
of
=3D
>=3D3D
> >guy, but=3D3D20
> > the Paris manual describes<BR>this procedure pretty =
well.<BR>It's =3D
>on =3D3D
> >page 4=3D3D20
> > and 5 of the 3.0 version.<BR>It kind of sounds to me like you =
may =3D
>not
> =3D3D
> >be=3D3D20
> > hooking up the correct eds card<BR>to the master =3D
>mec.<BR>Rod<BR>"DJ"=3D3D20
> > <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net>=3D3D20
> > wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D20
> > href=3D3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
=3D
>wrote =3D3D
> >in message=3D3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>news:46972376@linux...<BR>> This is really a =3D3D
> >novice oriented=3D3D20
> > question but . . .<BR>> It doesn't matter which card is the =
=3D3D
> >"A"=3D3D20
> > card<BR>> in your system as far as Paris' ID orientation=3D3D20
> > right?<BR>><BR>> Yes, it does, and the orientation of the =3D3D
> >slots=3D3D20
> > you are using in =3D3D3D<BR>>combination with the orientation of =
the
=3D
>=3D3D
> >ribbon=3D3D20
> > cables will determine =3D3D3D<BR>>this. Have you changed them =
around
=3D
>=3D3D
> >during your=3D3D20
> > reconfiguration?<BR>><BR>> Start with a new SCSI cable and =3D3D
> >a=3D3D20
> > single EDS card. Test each MEC. Once<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>you know if =
there
=3D
>=3D3D
> >is a=3D3D20
> > problem there, add a new SCSI cable and another =
=3D3D3D<BR>>card. Put
=3D
>=3D3D
> >different=3D3D20
> > modules in the MECs so you can see which one is on =
=3D3D3D<BR>>card =3D
>A, =3D3D
> >B, C at=3D3D20
> > all times. this will give you the info as to how the =3D
>=3D3D3D<BR>>cards =3D3D
> >are=3D3D20
> > initializing and which card is card A, B, C as you start =3D3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>adding more=3D3D20
> > hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were working =3D3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>perfectly=3D3D20
> > when I took my system off line. I can't imagine it being a =3D3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D20
> > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue though. Your =
=3D3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>system=3D3D20
> > will not function with bad SCSI cables.<BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE =3D3D
> >HTML=3D3D20
> > PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D3D20
> > Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=3D3D20
> > http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type =
content=3D3D3D3D"text/html;=3D3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =3D3D
> >content=3D3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D3D20
> > 6.00.6000.16414"=3D3D20
> > =3D3D
> >name=3D3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=3D3D
> >D><BR>><BODY=3D3D20
> > bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20
> > dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; =
=3D
>PADDING-LEFT: =3D3D
> >5px;=3D3D20
> > MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; =
=3D3D
> >MARGIN-RIGHT:=3D3D20
> > 0px"><BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> <DIV>"Tom =3D3D
> >Bruhl"=3D3D20
> > <<A=3D3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> > =3D3D
> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:=
arp=3D
>egi=3D3D
> >o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D3D20
> > wrote =3D3D3D<BR>>in message=3D3D3D20<BR>> <A =
href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> > =3D3D
> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:=
469=3D
>723=3D3D
> >76@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=3D3D
> >p;=3D3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>This is really a =
=3D3D
> >novice oriented=3D3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>question but . .=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> > .</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D3D
> >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2>It doesn't matter which card is the =3D3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>"A"=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> > card</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D3D
> >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2>in your system as far as Paris' ID=3D3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>orientation=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> > right?</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D3D
> >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> ><DIV><BR>> =3D3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, and =
the =3D3D
> >orientation=3D3D20
> > of<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>the slots=3D3D3D20<BR>> you are using in =3D3D
> >combination with=3D3D20
> > the orientation of the ribbon=3D3D3D20<BR>> cables will =
determine =3D3D
> >this.=3D3D20
> > Have you changed them around during =
=3D3D3D<BR>>your=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
> >
> > reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> ><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Start with a new =
SCSI =3D3D
> >cable and a=3D3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>single EDS=3D3D3D20<BR>> card. Test each MEC. Once =
you =3D3D
> >know if=3D3D20
> > there is a problem there, add a<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>new =3D3D
> >SCSI=3D3D3D20<BR>> cable=3D3D20
> > and another card. Put different modules in the MECs so you can =
=3D3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>see=3D3D20
> > which=3D3D3D20<BR>> one is on card A, B, C at all times. this =
=3D3D
> >will give you=3D3D20
> > the info =3D3D3D<BR>>as to=3D3D3D20<BR>> how the cards are =3D3D
> >initializing and=3D3D20
> > which card is card A, B, C as you =
=3D3D3D<BR>>start=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
> >adding more=3D3D20
> > hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were=3D3D20
> > working<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>><BR>> perfectly when I took my system =
=3D3D
> >off line. I=3D3D20
> > can't imagine it being a =3D3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D3D20<BR>> Bent =
=3D3D
> >pins on SCSI=3D3D20
> > cables can be a serious issue though. Your system =3D
>=3D3D3D<BR>>will=3D3D20
> > not=3D3D3D20<BR>> function with bad SCSI=3D3D20
> > =3D3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>=3D3D
> >;</BODY></HTML><BR>><BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
> ><DIV><FONT size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to =
fight =3D
>spam, =3D3D
> >and=3D3D20
> >you?<BR><A=3D3D20
> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com=
/re=3D
>fer=3D3D
> >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
> >
> >
>
>
><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
><HTML><HEAD>
><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
><STYLE></STYLE>
></HEAD>
><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hey Rod,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hiding the default project =
didn't help=3D20
>anything. I've never</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>had 2.?? installed on this comp =
so I =3D
>think I'm safe=3D20
>there regarding</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>drivers.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am only able to intermitantly =
get the
=3D
>442 working=3D20
>as the master.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I think that's do to the scsi =
cable =3D
>issue. I=3D20
>need four new ones.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am unable to get more than one =
EDS =3D
>card working=3D20
>WITH the 442.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Not sure why. The ribbons are =
all =3D
>wired=3D20
>correctly.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm off to a hellish gigging =3D
>weekend. No more=3D20
>time for hell in Paris.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks for all your =
input,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
=3D
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A=
>&g=3D
>t;=3D20
> wrote in message <A=3D20
> =
href=3D3D"news:4697ab8a@linux">news:4697ab8a@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Did =
=3D
>you try=3D20
> hiding the default ppj to see if it would boot up with a MEC =3D
>when<BR>creating=3D20
> a new session? <BR>Rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20
> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Guys,<BR>>I'm all set with the cables =3D
>and the=3D20
> which card is A bit.<BR>>Rod you were right about what I was=3D20
> asking.<BR>><BR>>In any event I scaled down to one EDS (Pretty =3D
>sure=3D20
> that's card A =3D3D<BR>>right?!!!)<BR>>and plugged it into each of =
=3D
>my two=3D20
> working Mecs. Paris will boot but<BR>>even internal clock was =3D
>never=3D20
> found nor were the in/outs on each Mec.<BR>>The 442 on the other =
=3D
>hand works=3D20
> like a champ one card only. I suspect<BR>>either all my Mecs =3D
>are=3D20
> screwy now or the SCSI cables are intermitant =3D
>at<BR>=3D3D<BR>>best.<BR>>It's=3D20
> working fine with the 442 so I'm sticking with that for =3D
>today.<BR>>I'll add=3D20
> my EDS cards one by one and see if that is back to=3D20
> normal.<BR>><BR>>Thanks for the help and if I need scsi cables =3D
>what and=3D20
> where to buy them<BR>=3D3D<BR>>would be good info too.<BR>>Mr=3D20
> Testy<BR>> "Rod Lincoln" <<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A=
>&g=3D
>t;=3D20
> wrote in message =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>news:469780ce$1@linux...<BR>><BR>> I=3D20
> think Tom was asking if there was a "3.0" version of the EDS =
card=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>that needed<BR>> to be connected to the master. =3D
>The answer=3D20
> to that would be no.=3D3D20<BR>> Is this what you were asking=3D20
> Tom?<BR>> DJ's advice is very important though. I would do =3D
>it, if you=3D20
> haven't =3D3D<BR>>already.<BR>> I don't want to sound like a =3D
>"RTFM"=3D20
> kind of guy, but the Paris =3D
>manual<BR>=3D3D<BR>>describes<BR>> this=3D20
> procedure pretty well.<BR>> It's on page 4 and 5 of the 3.0=3D20
> version.<BR>> It kind of sounds to me like you may not be =3D
>hooking up=3D20
> the correct eds<BR>=3D3D<BR>>card<BR>> to the master=3D20
> mec.<BR>> Rod<BR>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ =3D
>dot _=3D20
> net> wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> =3D20
> ><BR>> > "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote =3D
>in message=3D20
> =3D3D3D<BR>> >news:46972376@linux...<BR>> =3D
>> This is=3D20
> really a novice oriented question but . . .<BR>> > =3D
>It=3D20
> doesn't matter which card is the "A" card<BR>> > in =3D
>your=3D20
> system as far as Paris' ID orientation right?<BR>> =3D
>><BR>> =3D20
> > Yes, it does, and the orientation of the slots you are =3D
>using in=3D20
> =3D3D3D<BR>> >combination with the orientation of the ribbon =3D
>cables=3D20
> will determine<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >this. Have you =3D
>changed them=3D20
> around during your reconfiguration?<BR>> ><BR>> =3D20
> > Start with a new SCSI cable and a single EDS card. Test =3D
>each MEC.=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>Once<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>> >you know if =3D
>there is a=3D20
> problem there, add a new SCSI cable and =3D3D<BR>>another =3D
>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> >card. Put different modules in the MECs so you can see which one =
=3D
>is=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>on =3D3D3D<BR>> >card A, B, C at all times. this =3D
>will give=3D20
> you the info as to how the<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >cards =3D
>are=3D20
> initializing and which card is card A, B, C as you start=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >adding more hardware. the MEC i =3D
>sent you is one=3D20
> of 4 that were =3D3D<BR>>working =3D3D3D<BR>> >perfectly =3D
>when I took my=3D20
> system off line. I can't imagine it being =3D
>a<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> >problem. Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue =
though.=3D20
> Your<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >system will not function =3D
>with bad SCSI=3D20
> cables.<BR>> ><BR>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC=3D20
> "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"><BR>> =3D20
> ><HTML><HEAD><BR>> ><META=3D20
> http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D3D"text/html; =3D
>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> >charset=3D3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>> ><META =3D
>content=3D3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20
> 6.00.6000.16414" name=3D3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>> =3D20
> ><STYLE></STYLE><BR>> =3D
>></HEAD><BR>> =3D20
> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>> =3D
>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20<BR>> >style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =3D
>0px;=3D20
> PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: =3D
>0px"><BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
>size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20
> </DIV><BR>> > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl"=3D20
> <<A=3D3D3D20<BR>> > href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arp=
egi=3D
>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>wrote =3D3D3D<BR>> >in =3D
>message=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D20
> <A href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:469=
723=3D
>76@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=3D
>p;=3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>This =3D
>is really a=3D20
> novice =3D3D<BR>>oriented =3D3D3D<BR>> >question but .=3D20
> .=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D
>.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>It =3D
>doesn't matter=3D20
> which card =3D3D<BR>>is the =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
>>"A"=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > card</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>in your system as =3D
>far as=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>Paris' ID =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
>>orientation=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > right?</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20
> </DIV><BR>> > <DIV><BR>> =3D
>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, and =3D
>the=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>orientation of<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>> >the=3D20
> slots=3D3D3D20<BR>> > you are using in combination =3D
>with the=3D20
> orientation of the =3D3D<BR>>ribbon=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D
>cables will=3D20
> determine this. Have you changed them around during =3D
>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> >your=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D20
> reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20
> </DIV><BR>> > <DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D3D2>Start with a new SCSI cable =3D3D<BR>>and a =3D
>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> >single EDS=3D3D3D20<BR>> > card. Test each MEC. =3D
>Once you=3D20
> know if there is a problem there, add<BR>=3D3D<BR>>a<BR>> =3D20
> =3D3D3D<BR>> >new SCSI=3D3D3D20<BR>> > cable =3D
>and another=3D20
> card. Put different modules in the MECs so you =3D3D<BR>>can =3D
>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> >see which=3D3D3D20<BR>> > one is on card A, B, C =3D
>at all=3D20
> times. this will give you the info =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
>>as=3D20
> to=3D3D3D20<BR>> > how the cards are initializing and =3D
>which card=3D20
> is card A, B, C as =3D3D<BR>>you =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
>>start=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that =3D
>were=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>working<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
>><BR>> > =3D20
> perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't imagine it=3D20
> being<BR>=3D3D<BR>>a =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
>>problem.=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue though. =3D
>Your=3D20
> system<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >will =3D
>not=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > function with bad SCSI =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> =3D
>>cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></B=3D
>ODY></HTML><BR>> =3D20
> ><BR>> ><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>I choose =3D
>Polesoft=3D20
> Lockspam to fight spam, and=3D20
> you?<BR>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =3D20
> <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D20
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> =3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =3D
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> =3D
>size=3D3D3D2>Guys,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'm all set with the cables and the =
=3D
>=3D3D<BR>>which=3D20
> card is =3D
>A=3D3D20<BR>>bit.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Rod you were right about what I=3D20
> =3D
>was=3D3D20<BR>>asking.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FO=3D
>NT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D
></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>In any event I scaled down to one =
EDS=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>(Pretty sure=3D3D20<BR>>that's card A=3D20
> right?!!!)</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>and plugged it into each of my two=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>working=3D3D20<BR>>Mecs. Paris will boot=3D20
> but</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =3D
>
> size=3D3D3D2>even internal clock was never found =3D
>nor<BR>=3D3D<BR>>were=3D20
> the=3D3D20<BR>>in/outs on each=3D20
> Mec.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>The 442 on the other hand works like =3D
>a<BR>=3D3D<BR>>champ=3D20
> one=3D3D20<BR>>card only. I=3D20
> suspect</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>either all my Mecs are screwy now or =
=3D3D<BR>>the=3D20
> SCSI=3D3D20<BR>>cables are intermitant at=3D20
> best.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>It's working fine with the 442 so I'm =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>sticking=3D20
> with=3D3D20<BR>>that for=3D20
> today.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>I'll add my EDS cards one by one and =3D3D<BR>>see if =
=3D
>that=3D20
> is=3D3D20<BR>>back to=3D20
> normal.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>Thanks for the help and if I need =3D
>scsi<BR>=3D3D<BR>>cables=3D20
> what=3D3D20<BR>>and where to buy them would be good info=3D20
> too.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>Mr=3D20
> =3D
>Testy</FONT></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D=3D
>3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=3D20
> 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: =
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>#000000 2px=3D20
> solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Rod Lincoln"=3D20
> <<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A=
>&a=3D
=
>mp;g'>mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</=3D
>A>&g</A>=3D3D<BR>>t;=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> wrote in message <A=3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D'news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>I=
'>n=3D
>ews:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV>&l=3D
>t;BR>I</A><BR>=3D3D<BR>>think=3D20
> Tom=3D3D20<BR>> was asking if there was a "3.0" version of the =3D
>EDS card=3D20
> that =3D3D<BR>>needed<BR>to be=3D3D20<BR>> connected to =3D
>the master.=3D20
> The answer to that would be no. <BR>Is this =3D3D<BR>>what=3D20
> you=3D3D20<BR>> were asking Tom?<BR>DJ's advice is very =3D
>important=3D20
> though. I would do =3D3D<BR>>it, if=3D3D20<BR>> you haven't=3D20
> already.<BR>I don't want to sound like a "RTFM" kind of =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>guy,=3D20
> but=3D3D20<BR>> the Paris manual describes<BR>this =3D
>procedure pretty=3D20
> well.<BR>It's on =3D3D<BR>>page 4=3D3D20<BR>> and 5 of =3D
>the 3.0=3D20
> version.<BR>It kind of sounds to me like you may=3D20
> not<BR>=3D3D<BR>>be=3D3D20<BR>> hooking up the correct eds=3D20
> card<BR>to the master =3D
>mec.<BR>Rod<BR>"DJ"=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> "Tom =3D
>Bruhl"=3D20
> <<A=3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arp=
egi=3D
>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D20
> wrote =3D3D<BR>>in message=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> =3D3D3D<BR>>news:46972376@linux...<BR>> This is really =3D
>a=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>novice oriented=3D3D20<BR>> question but . . =3D
>.<BR>> It=3D20
> doesn't matter which card is the =3D3D<BR>>"A"=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> card<BR>> in your system as far as Paris' ID=3D20
> orientation=3D3D20<BR>> right?<BR>><BR>> Yes, =3D
>it does,=3D20
> and the orientation of the =3D3D<BR>>slots=3D3D20<BR>> you are =3D
>using in=3D20
> =3D3D3D<BR>>combination with the orientation of the=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>ribbon=3D3D20<BR>> cables will determine =3D
>=3D3D3D<BR>>this.=3D20
> Have you changed them around =3D3D<BR>>during your=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>
> reconfiguration?<BR>><BR>> Start with a new SCSI =3D
>cable and=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>a=3D3D20<BR>> single EDS card. Test each MEC.=3D20
> Once<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>you know if there =3D3D<BR>>is=3D20
> a=3D3D20<BR>> problem there, add a new SCSI cable and another=3D20
> =3D3D3D<BR>>card. Put =3D3D<BR>>different=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>modules in the=3D20
> MECs so you can see which one is on =3D3D3D<BR>>card A, =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>B, C=3D20
> at=3D3D20<BR>> all times. this will give you the info as to how =3D
>the=3D20
> =3D3D3D<BR>>cards =3D3D<BR>>are=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>initializing and which=3D20
> card is card A, B, C as you start =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>adding =3D
>
> more=3D3D20<BR>> hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that =3D
>were=3D20
> working =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>perfectly=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>when I took my=3D20
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> =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D20<BR>> Bent pins on =3D
>SCSI cables=3D20
> can be a serious issue though. Your=3D20
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>function with bad=3D20
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> href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> =3D
=
>=3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net&l=3D=
>t;/A'>mailto:arpegi=3D3D<BR>>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net<=3D
>;/A</A>>>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> wrote =3D3D3D<BR>>in message=3D3D3D20<BR>> <A=3D20
> href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> =3D
>=3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>=3D
>;...</DIV'>news:469723=3D3D<BR>>76@linux">news:46972376@linux&l=3D
>t;/A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=3D3D<BR>>p;=3D3D20=3D
><BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>This is really a=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>novice oriented=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>=3D3D3D<BR>>question but .=3D20
> .=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> .</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D3D2>It =3D
>doesn't matter which=3D20
> card is the =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>"A"=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> card</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D3D2>in your =3D
>system as far=3D20
> as Paris' ID=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>=3D3D3D<BR>>orientation=3D3D3D20<BR>>=3D20
> =3D3D20<BR>> right?</FONT></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> <DIV><FONT =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>>=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>><DIV><BR>> =3D3D20<BR>> =3D
><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, and the=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>orientation=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>of<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>the=3D20
> slots=3D3D3D20<BR>> you are using in =3D3D<BR>>combination=3D20
> with=3D3D20<BR>> the orientation of the =3D
>ribbon=3D3D3D20<BR>> cables=3D20
> will determine =3D3D<BR>>this.=3D3D20<BR>> Have you changed =3D
>them around=3D20
> during =3D3D3D<BR>>your=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>=3D3D<BR>><BR>> =3D20
> reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D
>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Start with a new =3D
>SCSI=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>cable and a=3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>>single=3D20
> EDS=3D3D3D20<BR>> card. Test each MEC. Once you =3D3D<BR>>know =3D
>
> if=3D3D20<BR>> there is a problem there, add=3D20
> a<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>new =3D3D<BR>>SCSI=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>
> cable=3D3D20<BR>> and another card. Put different modules in =3D
>the MECs so=3D20
> you can =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>see=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> which=3D3D3D20<BR>> one is on card A, B, C at all times. this=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>will give you=3D3D20<BR>> the info =3D
>=3D3D3D<BR>>as=3D20
> to=3D3D3D20<BR>> how the cards are =3D3D<BR>>initializing=3D20
> and=3D3D20<BR>> which card is card A, B, C as you=3D20
> =3D3D3D<BR>>start=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>adding=3D20
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>working<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>><BR>>=3D20
> perfectly when I took my system =3D3D<BR>>off line. =3D
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> imagine it being a =3D3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>Bent=3D20
> =3D3D<BR>>pins on SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> cables can be a serious =3D
>issue though.=3D20
> Your system =3D3D3D<BR>>will=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
>not=3D3D3D20<BR>>=3D20
> function with bad SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> =3D
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>href=3D3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rod,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am working from a clone that was =
totally good=20
with two</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>fully loaded Mecs. I have to =
assume the=20
drivers are good.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm looking for a good vendor for SCSI =
cables=20
now.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>They're called SCSI 2 =
right?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
href=3D"http://www.m2cables.com/SCSI2toSCSI2CablesHDB50MtoML6.html">http:=
//www.m2cables.com/SCSI2toSCSI2CablesHDB50MtoML6.html</A></FONT ></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm thinking of cleaning the female =
jacks on the=20
mec and EDS to be</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>sure all is well. Any sprays =
anyone=20
suggests? I've got Deoxit.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Good?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
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<DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
t;=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:4697f7e2$1@linux">news:4697f7e2$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Tom,=
sounds=20
like it probably is a scsi issue. Your running xp right? The =
new<BR>Scherzo=20
drivers are for xp verses 98 not for 3.0 verses 2.x<BR>Come to think =
of it.=20
you probably whoudn't have had any old drivers on your<BR>xp sys drive =
anyway...never mind.<BR>Rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Hey Rod,<BR>>Hiding the default =
project=20
didn't help anything. I've never<BR>>had 2.?? installed on =
this comp=20
so I think I'm safe there regarding<BR>>drivers.<BR>><BR>>I =
am only=20
able to intermitantly get the 442 working as the master.<BR>>I =
think that's=20
do to the scsi cable issue. I need four new ones.<BR>>I am =
unable to=20
get more than one EDS card working WITH the 442.<BR>>Not sure =
why. =20
The ribbons are all wired correctly.<BR>><BR>>I'm off to a =
hellish=20
gigging weekend. No more time for hell in Paris.<BR>>Thanks =
for all=20
your input,<BR>>Tom<BR>> "Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
t;=20
wrote in message =
=3D<BR>>news:4697ab8a@linux...<BR>><BR>> Did you=20
try hiding the default ppj to see if it would boot up with a =
=3D<BR>>MEC=20
when<BR>> creating a new session?=3D20<BR>> =
Rod<BR>> =20
"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> =20
>Guys,<BR>> >I'm all set with the cables and the which =
card is=20
A bit.<BR>> >Rod you were right about what I was=20
asking.<BR>> ><BR>> >In any event I scaled =
down to one=20
EDS (Pretty sure that's card A =3D3D<BR>> =
>right?!!!)<BR>> =20
>and plugged it into each of my two working Mecs. Paris will =
boot=20
but<BR>> >even internal clock was never found nor were the =
in/outs=20
on each Mec.<BR>> >The 442 on the other hand works like a =
champ=20
one card only. I =3D<BR>>suspect<BR>> >either all =
my Mecs=20
are screwy now or the SCSI cables are =
intermitant<BR>=3D<BR>>at<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>> >best.<BR>> >It's working fine with =
the 442=20
so I'm sticking with that for today.<BR>> >I'll add my EDS =
cards=20
one by one and see if that is back to normal.<BR>> =
><BR>> =20
>Thanks for the help and if I need scsi cables what and where to =
buy=20
=3D<BR>>them<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> >would be good =
info=20
too.<BR>> >Mr Testy<BR>> > "Rod Lincoln" =
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
t;=20
wrote in message =3D3D<BR>> =
>news:469780ce$1@linux...<BR>> =20
><BR>> > I think Tom was asking if there was a =
"3.0"=20
version of the EDS card<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >that=20
needed<BR>> > to be connected to the master. The =
answer to=20
that would be no.=3D3D20<BR>> > Is this what you =
were asking=20
Tom?<BR>> > DJ's advice is very important though. I =
would do=20
it, if you haven't<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =
>already.<BR>> =20
> I don't want to sound like a "RTFM" kind of guy, but the =
Paris=20
=3D<BR>>manual<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =
>describes<BR>> =20
> this procedure pretty well.<BR>> > It's =
on page 4=20
and 5 of the 3.0 version.<BR>> > It kind of sounds =
to me=20
like you may not be hooking up the =
correct<BR>=3D<BR>>eds<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>> >card<BR>> > to the master=20
mec.<BR>> > Rod<BR>> > "DJ" =
<animix _=20
at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:<BR>> > =
><BR>> =20
> ><BR>> > ><BR>> > =
> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
in message=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
>news:46972376@linux...<BR>> =20
> > This is really a novice oriented question but . =
..=20
.<BR>> > > It doesn't matter which card is =
the "A"=20
card<BR>> > > in your system as far as =
Paris' ID=20
orientation right?<BR>> > ><BR>> =
> =20
> Yes, it does, and the orientation of the slots you are =
using=20
in<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> > >combination with =
the=20
orientation of the ribbon cables will =
=3D<BR>>determine<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>> >=3D3D3D<BR>> > >this. =
Have you=20
changed them around during your reconfiguration?<BR>> =
> =20
><BR>> > > Start with a new SCSI cable =
and a=20
single EDS card. Test each =3D<BR>>MEC. =3D3D<BR>> =20
>Once<BR>> > =3D3D3D<BR>> > =
>you know=20
if there is a problem there, add a new SCSI cable and =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>another =3D3D3D<BR>> > >card. Put different =
modules in=20
the MECs so you can see which one =3D<BR>>is =3D3D<BR>> =
>on=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > >card A, B, C at all times. this =
will give=20
you the info as to how =3D<BR>>the<BR>> =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > >cards are initializing and =
which card=20
is card A, B, C as you start<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > >adding more hardware. the MEC =
i sent=20
you is one of 4 that were =3D3D<BR>> >working =
=3D3D3D<BR>> =20
> >perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't =
imagine it=20
being<BR>=3D<BR>>a<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =
>=3D3D3D<BR>> =20
> >problem. Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious =
issue=20
though. =3D<BR>>Your<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =
>=3D3D3D<BR>> =20
> >system will not function with bad SCSI =
cables.<BR>> =20
> ><BR>> > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC=20
"-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"><BR>> > =20
><HTML><HEAD><BR>> > ><META=20
http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D3D"text/html;=20
=3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =20
>charset=3D3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>> > =
><META=20
content=3D3D3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16414" =
name=3D3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>> =20
> ><STYLE></STYLE><BR>> > =20
></HEAD><BR>> > ><BODY=20
bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>> > =
><BLOCKQUOTE=20
dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =
>style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=20
0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =3D<BR>>5px; =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px =
solid;=20
MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> > > =
<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>> =20
> > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" =
<<A=3D3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > href=3D3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>><BR>=3D<BR>>=3D=
3D<BR>> =20
>wrote =3D3D3D<BR>> > >in =
message=3D3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > <A =3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:469723=
76@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=
p;=20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>This is really a =
novice<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =20
>oriented =3D3D3D<BR>> > >question but .=20
.=3D3D3D20<BR>> > > =20
.</FONT></DIV><BR>> > > =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>It doesn't =
matter=20
which<BR>=3D<BR>>card =3D3D<BR>> >is the =
=3D3D3D<BR>> =20
> >"A"=3D3D3D20<BR>> > > =20
card</FONT></DIV><BR>> > > =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>in your =
system as far=20
=3D<BR>>as =3D3D<BR>> >Paris' ID =3D3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
>orientation=3D3D3D20<BR>> > > =20
right?</FONT></DIV><BR>> > > =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>> > > =
<DIV><BR>> =20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, and the =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =
>orientation of<BR>> > =3D3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
>the slots=3D3D3D20<BR>> > > you are =
using in=20
combination with the orientation of the =3D3D<BR>> =20
>ribbon=3D3D3D20<BR>> > > cables will =
determine=20
this. Have you changed them around =
during<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =20
> >your=3D3D3D20<BR>> > > =20
reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR >> > =
> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>> > > <DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Start with a new SCSI =
=3D<BR>>cable=20
=3D3D<BR>> >and a =3D3D3D<BR>> > =
>single=20
EDS=3D3D3D20<BR>> > > card. Test each MEC. =
Once you=20
know if there is a problem there,<BR>=3D<BR>>add<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>> >a<BR>> > =
=3D3D3D<BR>> =20
> >new SCSI=3D3D3D20<BR>> > > =
cable and=20
another card. Put different modules in the MECs so=20
you<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >can =3D3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
>see which=3D3D3D20<BR>> > > one is on =
card A, B,=20
C at all times. this will give you the =
info<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > >as to=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> how the cards are initializing and which card is card A, B, =
C=20
as<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >you =3D3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
>start=3D3D3D20<BR>> > > adding more =
hardware. the=20
MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =20
>working<BR>> > =3D3D3D<BR>> > =20
><BR>> > > perfectly when I took my =
system off=20
line. I can't imagine it =3D<BR>>being<BR>> =
=3D3D<BR>> >a=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > >problem.=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue though. =
Your=20
=3D<BR>>system<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =
>=3D3D3D<BR>> =20
> >will not=3D3D3D20<BR>> > > =
function=20
with bad SCSI =3D3D3D<BR>> > =20
=
>cables.</FONT></DIV>& ;lt;/DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></B=
ODY></HTML><BR>> =20
> ><BR>> > ><BR>> =
><BR>> =20
><BR>> ><BR>> >I choose Polesoft Lockspam =
to fight=20
spam, and you?<BR>> =
>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
=3D20<BR>> ><BR>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC =
"-//W3C//DTD=20
HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"><BR>> =20
><HTML><HEAD><BR>> ><META=20
http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html; =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>> ><META =
content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=20
6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>> =20
><STYLE></STYLE><BR>> =
></HEAD><BR>> =20
><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>Guys,</FONT></DIV&a mp;gt; <BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'm all set =
with the=20
cables and<BR>=3D<BR>>the =3D3D<BR>> >which card is=20
A=3D3D20<BR>> >bit.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Rod you were =
right about=20
what I<BR>=3D<BR>>was=3D3D20<BR>> =20
>asking.</FONT></DIV><BR >> =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>In any event =
I scaled=20
down to =3D<BR>>one EDS =3D3D<BR>> >(Pretty =
sure=3D3D20<BR>> =20
>that's card A right?!!!)</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>and plugged =
it into each=20
of my =3D<BR>>two =3D3D<BR>> =
>working=3D3D20<BR>> >Mecs.=20
Paris will boot but</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>even internal =
clock was=20
never =3D<BR>>found nor<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> >were=20
the=3D3D20<BR>> >in/outs on each=20
Mec.</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>The 442 on the other hand =
works<BR>=3D<BR>>like=20
a<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> >champ one=3D3D20<BR>> =
>card=20
only. I suspect</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>either all my Mecs are screwy =
=3D<BR>>now or=20
=3D3D<BR>> >the SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> >cables are =
intermitant=20
at best.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>It's working fine with the 442 =
=3D<BR>>so I'm=20
=3D3D<BR>> >sticking with=3D3D20<BR>> >that =
for=20
today.</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'll add my EDS cards one by =
one<BR>=3D<BR>>and=20
=3D3D<BR>> >see if that is=3D3D20<BR>> >back =
to=20
normal.</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Thanks for =
the help and=20
if I =3D<BR>>need scsi<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> >cables =
what=3D3D20<BR>> >and where to buy them would be good info =
too.</FONT></DIV><BR>> ><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Mr =
Testy</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20<BR>> =
>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;=20
PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =20
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
0px"><BR>> =20
> <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
=3D3D<BR>> =3D<BR>>>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A'>m=
ailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A</A>=3D=
<BR>>>&g=3D3D<BR>> =20
>t;=3D3D20<BR>> > wrote in message =
<A=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>I'>n=
ews:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV>&l=
t;BR>I</A><BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>> >think Tom=3D3D20<BR>> > was =
asking if=20
there was a "3.0" version of the EDS card that =3D3D<BR>> =20
>needed<BR>to be=3D3D20<BR>> > connected to =
the=20
master. The answer to that would be no. <BR>Is =3D<BR>>this=20
=3D3D<BR>> >what you=3D3D20<BR>> > were =
asking=20
Tom?<BR>DJ's advice is very important though. I would =
=3D<BR>>do=20
=3D3D<BR>> >it, if=3D3D20<BR>> > you =
haven't=20
already.<BR>I don't want to sound like a "RTFM" kind=20
of<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >guy, but=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
the Paris manual describes<BR>this procedure pretty =
well.<BR>It's=20
=3D<BR>>on =3D3D<BR>> >page 4=3D3D20<BR>> =
> and 5=20
of the 3.0 version.<BR>It kind of sounds to me like you may=20
=3D<BR>>not<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =
>be=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> hooking up the correct eds card<BR>to the master=20
=3D<BR>>mec.<BR>Rod<BR> "DJ"=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
<animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net>=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
wrote:<BR>><BR>>&a mp;lt;BR>><BR>> "Tom =
Bruhl"=20
<<A=3D3D20<BR>> > href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=20
=3D<BR>>wrote =3D3D<BR>> >in =
message=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
=3D3D3D<BR>>news:46972376@linux...<BR>> This is =
really a=20
=3D3D<BR>> >novice oriented=3D3D20<BR>> =
> question=20
but . . .<BR>> It doesn't matter which card is the =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>"A"=3D3D20<BR>> > card<BR>> in your =
system as far=20
as Paris' ID orientation=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
right?<BR>><BR>> Yes, it does, and the orientation =
of the=20
=3D3D<BR>> >slots=3D3D20<BR>> > you are =
using in=20
=3D3D3D<BR>>combination with the orientation of=20
the<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >ribbon=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
cables will determine =3D3D3D<BR>>this. Have you changed them =
around<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >during =
your=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> reconfiguration?<BR>><BR> > Start with a =
new SCSI=20
cable and =3D3D<BR>> >a=3D3D20<BR>> > =
single EDS=20
card. Test each MEC. Once<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>you know if=20
there<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >is a=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
problem there, add a new SCSI cable and another =
=3D3D3D<BR>>card.=20
Put<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =
>different=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
modules in the MECs so you can see which one is on =
=3D3D3D<BR>>card=20
=3D<BR>>A, =3D3D<BR>> >B, C at=3D3D20<BR>> =
> all=20
times. this will give you the info as to how the=20
=3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>cards =3D3D<BR>> =
>are=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> initializing and which card is card A, B, C as you start=20
=3D3D<BR>> >=3D3D3D<BR>>adding =
more=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were working=20
=3D3D<BR>> =
>=3D3D3D<BR>>perfectly=3D3D20<BR >> =20
> when I took my system off line. I can't imagine it being a=20
=3D3D<BR>> =
>=3D3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D20<BR >> =20
> Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue though. =
Your=20
=3D3D<BR>> =
>=3D3D3D<BR>>system=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
will not function with bad SCSI=20
cables.<BR>><BR>>& amp;lt;!DOCTYPE =3D3D<BR>> =20
>HTML=3D3D20<BR>> > PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML=20
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bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>>&am p;lt;BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20 <BR>>&nb=
sp;=20
> =
dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D 3D3D "PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; =
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<DIV>"Tom =3D3D<BR>> >Bruhl"=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
<<A=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR>>>href=3D3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast=
..net</A'>mailto:arp=3D<BR>>egi=3D3D<BR >> =20
=
>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D3D20<=
BR>> =20
> wrote =3D3D3D<BR>>in =
message=3D3D3D20<BR>> <A=20
href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20<BR>> > =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR>>>href=3D3D3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux<=
;/A>...</DIV'>news:469=3D<BR>>723=3D3D <BR>> =20
=
>76@linux">news:46972376@linux </A>...</DIV</A>>& amp;l=
t;BR>>&nbs=3D3D<BR>> =20
>p;=3D3D20<BR>> > <DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>This is really a =3D3D<BR>> >novice=20
oriented=3D3D20<BR>> > =3D3D3D<BR>>question =
but .=20
.=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20<BR>> > =20
.</FONT></DIV><BR> > <DIV><FONT =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> > =
size=3D3D3D3D2>It doesn't=20
matter which card is the =3D3D<BR>> =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>>"A"=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
card</FONT></DIV><BR& gt;> <DIV><FONT=20
=3D3D<BR>> >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
size=3D3D3D3D2>in your system as far as Paris' =
ID=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> =3D3D3D<BR>>orientation=3D3D3D20< ;BR>>=20
=3D3D20<BR>> > =
right?</FONT></DIV><BR&am p;gt;>=20
<DIV><FONT =3D3D<BR>> =
>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>>=20
=3D3D<BR>> ><DIV><BR>> =
=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, =
and the=20
=3D3D<BR>> >orientation=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
of<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>the slots=3D3D3D20<BR>> you =
are using in=20
=3D3D<BR>> >combination with=3D3D20<BR>> =
> the=20
orientation of the ribbon=3D3D3D20<BR>> cables will determine =
=3D3D<BR>> >this.=3D3D20<BR>> > Have you =
changed=20
them around during =3D3D3D<BR>>your=3D3D3D20<BR& ;gt;>=20
=3D3D<BR>> ><BR>> > =20
reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV>&am p;lt;BR>> =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> > =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =
=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>Start with a=20
new SCSI =3D3D<BR>> >cable and a=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
=3D3D3D<BR>>single EDS=3D3D3D20<BR>> card. Test each =
MEC. Once=20
you =3D3D<BR>> >know if=3D3D20<BR>> > =
there is a=20
problem there, add a<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>new =
=3D3D<BR>> =20
>SCSI=3D3D3D20<BR>> cable=3D3D20<BR>> > =
and another=20
card. Put different modules in the MECs so you can =3D3D<BR>> =
>=3D3D3D<BR>>see=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
which=3D3D3D20<BR>> one is on card A, B, C at all times. this =
=3D3D<BR>> >will give you=3D3D20<BR>> > =
the info=20
=3D3D3D<BR>>as to=3D3D3D20<BR>> how the cards are=20
=3D3D<BR>> >initializing and=3D3D20<BR>> =
> which=20
card is card A, B, C as you =
=3D3D3D<BR>>start=3D3D3D20<BR&am p;gt;>=20
=3D3D<BR>> >adding more=3D3D20<BR>> > =
hardware. the=20
MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
working<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>&a mp;lt;BR>> perfectly when I =
took my=20
system =3D3D<BR>> >off line. I=3D3D20<BR>> =
> can't=20
imagine it being a =
=3D3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D3D20<BR >> Bent=20
=3D3D<BR>> >pins on SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> > =
cables can be=20
a serious issue though. Your system=20
=3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>will=3D3D20 <BR>> > =20
not=3D3D3D20<BR>> function with bad SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
=3D3D<BR>> =20
=
>=3D3D3D<BR>>cables.</FON T></DIV></DIV><=
/BLOCKQUOTE>=3D3D<BR>> =20
=
>;</BODY></HTML><B R>><BR>><BR> ;<=
/BLOCKQUOTE><BR>> =20
><DIV><FONT size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose =
Polesoft=20
Lockspam to fight =3D<BR>>spam, =3D3D<BR>> =
>and=3D3D20<BR>> =20
>you?<BR><A=3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D<BR>>>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re'>h=
ttp://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re</A>=3D<B=
R>>fer=3D3D<BR>> =20
>.html</A>=20
</FONT></DIV></BODY&g t;</HTML> <BR>> =20
><BR>> ><BR>><BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML =
PUBLIC=20
"-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD> <BR>><META=20
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D><BR>><BODY=20
bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2>Hey=20
Rod,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>Hiding the default project didn't =
help=3D20<BR>>anything. I've=20
never</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>had 2.?? installed on this comp so I =3D<BR>>think =
I'm=20
safe=3D20<BR>>there=20
regarding</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
=
size=3D3D2>drivers.</FONT></DIV& amp;gt; <BR>><DIV><FON=
T=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am only able to intermitantly get=20
the<BR>=3D<BR>>442 working=3D20<BR>>as the=20
master.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>I think that's do to the scsi cable =3D<BR>>issue.=20
I=3D20<BR>>need four new=20
ones.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>I am unable to get more than one EDS =3D<BR>>card=20
working=3D20<BR>>WITH the=20
442.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>Not sure why. The ribbons are all=20
=
=3D<BR>>wired=3D20<BR>>correctly.</FONT></DIV> <BR>>&=
lt;DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm off to a hellish gigging =
=3D<BR>>weekend. No=20
more=3D20<BR>>time for hell in=20
Paris.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>Thanks for all your=20
input,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
=
size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV&g t; <BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR>=
>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=20
0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: =
#000000 2px=20
solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Rod Lincoln"=20
<<A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&a=
mp;g'>mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</=
A>&g</A>=3D<BR>>t;=3D20<BR>> =20
wrote in message <A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:4697ab8a@linux">news:4697ab8a@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Did'>new=
s:4697ab8a@linux">news:4697ab8a@linux</A>...</DIV><BR&g=
t;Did</A>=20
=3D<BR>>you try=3D20<BR>> hiding the default ppj to see if =
it would=20
boot up with a MEC =
=3D<BR>>when<BR>creating=3D20<BR>> a new=20
session? <BR>Rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl" =
<<A=3D20<BR>> =20
href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto=
:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20</A><BR>&g=
t; =20
wrote:<BR>><BR>>&a mp;lt;BR>>Guys,<BR>>I'm =
all set=20
with the cables =3D<BR>>and the=3D20<BR>> which card is A=20
bit.<BR>>Rod you were right about what I =
was=3D20<BR>> =20
asking.<BR>><BR>>I n any event I scaled down to one =
EDS=20
(Pretty =3D<BR>>sure=3D20<BR>> that's card A=20
=3D3D<BR>>right?!!!)<BR>& amp;gt;and plugged it into each of =
=3D<BR>>my two=3D20<BR>> working Mecs. Paris will boot=20
but<BR>>even internal clock was =
=3D<BR>>never=3D20<BR>> found=20
nor were the in/outs on each Mec.<BR>>The 442 on the other=20
=3D<BR>>hand works=3D20<BR>> like a champ one card only. I =
suspect<BR>>either all my Mecs =
=3D<BR>>are=3D20<BR>> screwy=20
now or the SCSI cables are intermitant=20
=
=3D<BR> >at<BR>=3D3D<BR>>b est.<BR>>It's=3D20 <BR=
>> =20
working fine with the 442 so I'm sticking with that for=20
=3D<BR>>today.<BR>>I'll add=3D20<BR>> my EDS =
cards one by one=20
and see if that is back to=3D20<BR>> =20
normal.<BR>><BR>>T hanks for the help and if I need =
scsi=20
cables =3D<BR>>what and=3D20<BR>> where to buy=20
them<BR>=3D3D<BR>>would be good info=20
too.<BR>>Mr=3D20<BR>> Testy<BR>> "Rod =
Lincoln"=20
<<A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&a=
mp;g'>mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</=
A>&g</A>=3D<BR>>t;=3D20<BR>> =20
wrote in message=20
=
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>news:469780ce$1@linux...<BR>><B=
R>>=20
I=3D20<BR>> think Tom was asking if there was a "3.0" version =
of the=20
EDS card=3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>that =
needed<BR>> to be=20
connected to the master. =3D<BR>>The answer=3D20<BR>> to =
that would be=20
no.=3D3D20<BR>> Is this what you were =
asking=3D20<BR>> =20
Tom?<BR>> DJ's advice is very important though. I would do=20
=3D<BR>>it, if you=3D20<BR>> haven't=20
=3D3D<BR>>already.<BR>&am p;gt; I don't want to sound like a =
=3D<BR>>"RTFM"=3D20<BR>> kind of guy, but the Paris=20
=3D<BR> >manual<BR>=3D3D<BR>& gt;describes<BR>>=20
this=3D20<BR>> procedure pretty well.<BR>> It's on =
page 4 and=20
5 of the 3.0=3D20<BR>> version.<BR>> It kind of =
sounds to me=20
like you may not be =3D<BR>>hooking up=3D20<BR>> the =
correct=20
eds<BR>=3D3D<BR>>card& ;lt;BR>> to the=20
master=3D20<BR>> mec.<BR>> Rod<BR>> "DJ" =
<animix _=20
at _ animas _ =3D<BR>>dot _=3D20<BR>> net> =
wrote:<BR>>=20
><BR>> ><BR>> =3D20<BR>> =
><BR>>=20
> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=20
wrote =3D<BR>>in message=3D20<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>>=20
>news:46972376@linux...<BR>> =3D<BR>>> This=20
is=3D20<BR>> really a novice oriented question but . . =
..<BR>>=20
> =3D<BR>>It=3D20<BR>> doesn't matter which card is the =
"A"=20
card<BR>> > in =3D<BR>>your=3D20<BR>> system =
as far as=20
Paris' ID orientation right?<BR>> =
=3D<BR>>><BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> > Yes, it does, and the orientation of the =
slots you are=20
=3D<BR>>using in=3D20<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>> =
>combination with=20
the orientation of the ribbon =3D<BR>>cables=3D20<BR>> =
will=20
determine<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3 D3D3D<BR>> >this. =
Have you=20
=3D<BR>>changed them=3D20<BR>> around during your=20
reconfiguration?<BR>> ><BR>> =3D20<BR>> =
> Start=20
with a new SCSI cable and a single EDS card. Test =3D<BR>>each=20
MEC.=3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>Once<BR>> ; =
=3D3D3D<BR>>=20
>you know if =3D<BR>>there is a=3D20<BR>> problem =
there, add a new=20
SCSI cable and =3D3D<BR>>another =
=3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> >card. Put different modules in the MECs so you =
can see=20
which one =3D<BR>>is=3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>on =
=3D3D3D<BR>>=20
>card A, B, C at all times. this =3D<BR>>will =
give=3D20<BR>> you=20
the info as to how =
the<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D& amp;lt;BR>> >cards=20
=3D<BR>>are=3D20<BR>> initializing and which card is card =
A, B, C as=20
you start=3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>& ;gt; =
>adding=20
more hardware. the MEC i =3D<BR>>sent you is one=3D20<BR>> =
of 4 that=20
were =3D3D<BR>>working =3D3D3D<BR>> >perfectly =
=3D<BR>>when=20
I took my=3D20<BR>> system off line. I can't imagine it being =
=3D<BR> >a<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3 D3D3D<BR>> =
=3D20<BR>> =20
>problem. Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue=20
though.=3D20<BR>> =
Your<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D <BR>>=20
>system will not function =3D<BR>>with bad =
SCSI=3D20<BR>> =20
cables.<BR>> ><BR>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML=20
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bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>>=20
=3D<BR>>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR>> =20
dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
>style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=20
=3D<BR>>0px;=3D20<BR>> PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px;=20
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=3D20<BR>> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
=3D<BR>>size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20 <BR>> =20
</DIV><BR>> > <DIV>"Tom =
Bruhl"=3D20<BR>> =20
<<A=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =
href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR>>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net&l=
t;/A'>mailto:arpegi=3D<BR>>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net<=
;/A</A>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>wrote =3D3D3D<BR>> >in=20
=3D<BR>>message=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D20<BR>> =
<A=20
href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR>>href=3D3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>=
;...</DIV'>news:469723=3D<BR>>76@linux">news:46972376@linux&l=
t;/A>...</DIV</A>>< ;BR>>&nbs=3D <BR>>p;=3D20=
<BR>> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>This =
=3D<BR>>is=20
really a=3D20<BR>> novice =3D3D<BR>>oriented =
=3D3D3D<BR>>=20
>question but .=3D20<BR>> .=3D3D3D20<BR>> >=20
=3D<BR> >.</FONT></DIV><BR >> =
=3D20<BR>> >=20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>It =
=3D<BR>>doesn't=20
matter=3D20<BR>> which card =3D3D<BR>>is the =
=3D3D3D<BR>>=20
=3D<BR>>>"A"=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20<BR>> >=20
card</FONT></DIV><BR& gt;> > =3D20<BR>> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>in your =
system as=20
=3D<BR>>far as=3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>Paris' ID=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> =
=3D<BR> >>orientation=3D3D3D20<BR>&g t;=20
=3D20<BR>> > right?</FONT></DIV><BR&am p;gt;> =
>=20
=3D20<BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20<BR>> =
</DIV><BR>> >=20
<DIV><BR>> =3D<BR>>> =3D20<BR>> =
<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, and=20
=3D<BR>>the=3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>orientation =
of<BR>>=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> >the=3D20<BR>> =
slots=3D3D3D20<BR>> >=20
you are using in combination =3D<BR>>with the=3D20<BR>> =
orientation of=20
the =3D3D<BR>>ribbon=3D3D3D20<BR& ;gt;> > =
=3D<BR>>cables=20
will=3D20<BR>> determine this. Have you changed them around =
during=20
=3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20<BR>> =
>your=3D3D3D20<BR>>=20
> =3D20<BR>> =
reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV>&am p;lt;BR>>=20
> =3D20<BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20<BR>> =
</DIV><BR>> >=20
<DIV><FONT =3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
size=3D3D3D3D2>Start with a new SCSI cable =3D3D<BR>>and a =
=3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20<BR>> >single=20
EDS=3D3D3D20<BR>> > card. Test each MEC. =3D<BR>>Once=20
you=3D20<BR>> know if there is a problem there,=20
add<BR>=3D3D<BR>>a< ;BR>> =3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D3D<BR>> >new SCSI=3D3D3D20<BR>> > cable =
=3D<BR>>and=20
another=3D20<BR>> card. Put different modules in the MECs so =
you=20
=3D3D<BR>>can =3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =
=3D20<BR>> >see=20
which=3D3D3D20<BR>> > one is on card A, B, C =3D<BR>>at =
all=3D20<BR>> times. this will give you the info=20
=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>& ;gt; =
=3D<BR>>>as=3D20<BR>> =20
to=3D3D3D20<BR>> > how the cards are initializing and =
=3D<BR>>which=20
card=3D20<BR>> is card A, B, C as =3D3D<BR>>you=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D<BR>>>start=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D20<BR>> =20
> adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that=20
=3D<BR>>were=3D20<BR>> =
=3D3D<BR>>working<BR>& ;gt;=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D<BR>>><BR>> > =
=3D20<BR>> =20
perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't imagine =
it=3D20<BR>> =20
being<BR>=3D3D<BR>>a =3D3D3D<BR>>=20
=3D<BR>>>problem.=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20<BR>> =
> Bent pins on=20
SCSI cables can be a serious issue though. =
=3D<BR>>Your=3D20<BR>> =20
system<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D 3D<BR>> >will=20
=3D<BR>>not=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20<BR>> > =
function with bad=20
SCSI =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR> >>cables.</FONT></DIV& ;gt;</DIV></BLOCKQUOT=
E></B=3D<BR> >ODY></HTML><BR>&a mp;gt;=20
=3D20<BR>> ><BR>>=20
><BR>><BR>> <BR>><BR>>I choose=20
=3D<BR>>Polesoft=3D20<BR>> Lockspam to fight spam,=20
and=3D20<BR>> =
you?<BR>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html=20
=3D20<BR>> <BR>><BR>>< !DOCTYPE HTML =
PUBLIC=20
"-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D20<BR>> =20
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Transitional//EN" ><BR>><HTML>&l t;HEAD><BR>>=
<META=3D20<BR>> =20
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face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR> >size=3D3D3D2>Guys,</FONT>&l t;/DIV><BR>>&l=
t;DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> =20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'm all set with the cables and the=20
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>which=3D20<BR >> card is=20
=
=3D<BR> >A=3D3D20<BR>>bit.</FONT& amp;gt;</DIV><BR>&=
gt;<DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> =20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Rod you were right about what =
I=3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR> >was=3D3D20<BR>>asking.</ FONT></DIV><BR=
>><DIV><FO=3D<BR>>NT=3D20 <BR>> =20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
=
=3D<BR> ></DIV><BR>>&l t;DIV><FONT=3D20 <BR>>&nbs=
p;=20
face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>In any event I scaled down to one=20
EDS=3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>(Pretty =
sure=3D3D20<BR>>that's=20
card A=3D20<BR>> =20
right?!!!)</FONT></DIV><B R>><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>and =
plugged it into=20
each of my two=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D<BR>>working=3D3D20<BR& gt;>Mecs. Paris will=20
boot=3D20<BR>> =20
but</FONT></DIV><BR&g t;><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3DArial=20
=3D<BR>><BR>> size=3D3D3D2>even internal clock was =
never found=20
=3D<BR> >nor<BR>=3D3D<BR>> were=3D20 <BR>> =20
the=3D3D20<BR>>in/outs on each=3D20<BR>> =20
Mec.</FONT></DIV><BR& gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>The 442 =
on the other=20
hand works like =
=3D<BR> >a<BR>=3D3D<BR>>ch amp=3D20 <BR>> =20
one=3D3D20<BR>>card only. I=3D20<BR>> =20
suspect</FONT></DIV><BR&a mp;gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>either =
all my Mecs are=20
screwy now or =3D3D<BR>>the=3D20<BR>> =20
SCSI=3D3D20<BR>>cables are intermitant at=3D20<BR>> =20
best.</FONT></DIV><BR& ;gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>It's =
working fine with=20
the 442 so I'm =
=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>sticking=3D20 <BR>> =20
with=3D3D20<BR>>that for=3D20<BR>> =20
today.</FONT></DIV><BR&am p;gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>I'll =
add my EDS cards=20
one by one and =3D3D<BR>>see if =
=3D<BR>>that=3D20<BR>> =20
is=3D3D20<BR>>back to=3D20<BR>> =20
normal.</FONT></DIV><BR&a mp;gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =
size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>><DIV&am p;gt;<FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>Thanks =
for the help and=20
if I need =
=3D<BR> >scsi<BR>=3D3D<BR>> ;cables=3D20 <BR>> =20
what=3D3D20<BR>>and where to buy them would be good=20
info=3D20<BR>> =20
too.</FONT></DIV><BR& gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =
size=3D3D3D2>Mr=3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR> >Testy</FONT></DIV>&l t;BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3=
D20<BR>>style=3D3D=3D<BR>>3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=3D20 <BR>> =
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0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Rod Lincoln"=3D20<BR>> =20
<<A=3D3D20<BR>> =
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=3D<BR>>href=3D3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam=
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3D<BR>>t;=3D3D20<BR>& gt;=20
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href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR>>href=3D3D'news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</=
A>...</DIV><BR>I'> n=3D <BR>>ews:469780ce$1@linux">=
news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV>&l=3D<BR>>t;BR>I&=
lt;/A><BR>=3D3D<BR>&g t;think=3D20 <BR>> =20
Tom=3D3D20<BR>> was asking if there was a "3.0" version of =
the=20
=3D<BR>>EDS card=3D20<BR>> that =
=3D3D<BR>>needed<BR>to=20
be=3D3D20<BR>> connected to =3D<BR>>the =
master.=3D20<BR>> The=20
answer to that would be no. <BR>Is this=20
=3D3D<BR>>what=3D20<BR>> you=3D3D20<BR>> =
were asking=20
Tom?<BR>DJ's advice is very =
=3D<BR>>important=3D20<BR>> though.=20
I would do =3D3D<BR>>it, if=3D3D20<BR>> you=20
haven't=3D20<BR>> already.<BR>I don't want to sound =
like a "RTFM"=20
kind of =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>guy,=3D20<BR >> =
but=3D3D20<BR>>=20
the Paris manual describes<BR>this =3D<BR>>procedure=20
pretty=3D20<BR>> well.<BR>It's on =
=3D3D<BR>>page=20
4=3D3D20<BR>> and 5 of =3D<BR>>the 3.0=3D20<BR>> =20
version.<BR>It kind of sounds to me like you =
may=3D20<BR>> =20
not<BR>=3D3D<BR>>be=3D3D2 0<BR>> hooking up the =
correct=20
eds=3D20<BR>> card<BR>to the master=20
=3D<BR>>mec.<BR>Rod<BR> "DJ"=3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D20<BR>> =20
<animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net>=3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D20<BR>> =20
wrote:<BR>><BR>>&a mp;lt;BR>><BR>> "Tom=20
=3D<BR>>Bruhl"=3D20<BR>> <<A=3D3D20<BR>>=20
href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20<BR>> =20
=
=3D<BR>>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net&l=
t;/A'>mailto:arpegi=3D<BR>>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net<=
;/A</A>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
wrote =3D3D<BR>>in message=3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D20<BR>> =20
=3D3D3D<BR>>news:46972376@linux...<BR>> This is =
really=20
=3D<BR>>a=3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>novice=20
oriented=3D3D20<BR>> question but . . =
=3D<BR>>.<BR>>=20
It=3D20<BR>> doesn't matter which card is the=20
=3D3D<BR>>"A"=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20<BR>> =
card<BR>>=20
in your system as far as Paris' ID=3D20<BR>> =20
orientation=3D3D20<BR>> right?<BR>><BR>> =
Yes,=20
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Have you changed=20
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there=20
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=3D3D3D<BR>>card. Put=20
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in=20
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=3D20<BR>> =20
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ID=3D3D20<BR>>=20
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| Re: Paris hardware troubles won't stop. HELP!!! [message #88099 is a reply to message #88098] |
Sat, 14 July 2007 22:35 |
JeffH
Messages: 307
Registered: October 2007
Location: Wamic, OR
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Tom,
Stupid question, but did you ever start up without any c16's? If so did
you see the same issue?
Jeff
Bruhl wrote:
> Rod,
> I am working from a clone that was totally good with two
> fully loaded Mecs. I have to assume the drivers are good.
> I'm looking for a good vendor for SCSI cables now.
> They're called SCSI 2 right?
> http://www.m2cables.com/SCSI2toSCSI2CablesHDB50MtoML6.html
>
> I'm thinking of cleaning the female jacks on the mec and EDS to be
> sure all is well. Any sprays anyone suggests? I've got Deoxit.
> Good?
> Tom
>
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com
> <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com>> wrote in message
> news:4697f7e2$1@linux...
>
> Tom, sounds like it probably is a scsi issue. Your running xp right?
> The new
> Scherzo drivers are for xp verses 98 not for 3.0 verses 2.x
> Come to think of it. you probably whoudn't have had any old drivers
> on your
> xp sys drive anyway...never mind.
> Rod
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Hey Rod,
> >Hiding the default project didn't help anything. I've never
> >had 2.?? installed on this comp so I think I'm safe there regarding
> >drivers.
> >
> >I am only able to intermitantly get the 442 working as the master.
> >I think that's do to the scsi cable issue. I need four new ones.
> >I am unable to get more than one EDS card working WITH the 442.
> >Not sure why. The ribbons are all wired correctly.
> >
> >I'm off to a hellish gigging weekend. No more time for hell in Paris.
> >Thanks for all your input,
> >Tom
> > "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com
> <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com>> wrote in message =
> >news:4697ab8a@linux...
> >
> > Did you try hiding the default ppj to see if it would boot up
> with a =
> >MEC when
> > creating a new session?=20
> > Rod
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >Guys,
> > >I'm all set with the cables and the which card is A bit.
> > >Rod you were right about what I was asking.
> > >
> > >In any event I scaled down to one EDS (Pretty sure that's card
> A =3D
> > >right?!!!)
> > >and plugged it into each of my two working Mecs. Paris will
> boot but
> > >even internal clock was never found nor were the in/outs on
> each Mec.
> > >The 442 on the other hand works like a champ one card only. I =
> >suspect
> > >either all my Mecs are screwy now or the SCSI cables are
> intermitant
> =
> >at
> > =3D
> > >best.
> > >It's working fine with the 442 so I'm sticking with that for today.
> > >I'll add my EDS cards one by one and see if that is back to normal.
> > >
> > >Thanks for the help and if I need scsi cables what and where to
> buy =
> >them
> > =3D
> > >would be good info too.
> > >Mr Testy
> > > "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com
> <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com>> wrote in message =3D
> > >news:469780ce$1@linux...
> > >
> > > I think Tom was asking if there was a "3.0" version of the
> EDS card
> =
> >=3D
> > >that needed
> > > to be connected to the master. The answer to that would be
> no.=3D20
> > > Is this what you were asking Tom?
> > > DJ's advice is very important though. I would do it, if you
> haven't
> =
> >=3D
> > >already.
> > > I don't want to sound like a "RTFM" kind of guy, but the Paris =
> >manual
> > =3D
> > >describes
> > > this procedure pretty well.
> > > It's on page 4 and 5 of the 3.0 version.
> > > It kind of sounds to me like you may not be hooking up the
> correct
> =
> >eds
> > =3D
> > >card
> > > to the master mec.
> > > Rod
> > > "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>> wrote in message =3D3D
> > > >news:46972376@linux...
> > > > This is really a novice oriented question but . . .
> > > > It doesn't matter which card is the "A" card
> > > > in your system as far as Paris' ID orientation right?
> > > >
> > > > Yes, it does, and the orientation of the slots you are
> using in
> =
> >=3D3D
> > > >combination with the orientation of the ribbon cables will =
> >determine
> > =3D
> > >=3D3D
> > > >this. Have you changed them around during your reconfiguration?
> > > >
> > > > Start with a new SCSI cable and a single EDS card. Test each =
> >MEC. =3D
> > >Once
> > > =3D3D
> > > >you know if there is a problem there, add a new SCSI cable
> and =3D
> > >another =3D3D
> > > >card. Put different modules in the MECs so you can see which
> one =
> >is =3D
> > >on =3D3D
> > > >card A, B, C at all times. this will give you the info as to
> how =
> >the
> > =3D
> > >=3D3D
> > > >cards are initializing and which card is card A, B, C as you
> start
> =
> >=3D
> > >=3D3D
> > > >adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that
> were =3D
> > >working =3D3D
> > > >perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't imagine it
> being
> =
> >a
> > =3D
> > >=3D3D
> > > >problem. Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue
> though. =
> >Your
> > =3D
> > >=3D3D
> > > >system will not function with bad SCSI cables.
> > > >
> > > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> > > ><HTML><HEAD>
> > > ><META http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html; =
> >=3D3D
> > > >charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1">
> > > ><META content=3D3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16414"
> name=3D3D3DGENERATOR>
> > > ><STYLE></STYLE>
> > > ></HEAD>
> > > ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff>
> > > ><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20
> > > >style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px;
> MARGIN-LEFT: =
> >5px; =3D
> > >=3D3D
> > > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D20
> > > >
> href=3D3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>>
> =
> >=3D
> > >wrote =3D3D
> > > >in message=3D3D20
> > > > <A =
> >href=3D3D3D"news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV
> <news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV>>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>This is really a
> novice
> =
> >=3D
> > >oriented =3D3D
> > > >question but . .=3D3D20
> > > > .</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>It doesn't matter
> which
> =
> >card =3D
> > >is the =3D3D
> > > >"A"=3D3D20
> > > > card</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>in your system as
> far =
> >as =3D
> > >Paris' ID =3D3D
> > > >orientation=3D3D20
> > > > right?</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > > <DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, and
> the =
> >=3D
> > >orientation of
> > > =3D3D
> > > >the slots=3D3D20
> > > > you are using in combination with the orientation of the =3D
> > >ribbon=3D3D20
> > > > cables will determine this. Have you changed them around
> during
> =
> >=3D3D
> > > >your=3D3D20
> > > > reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Start with a new
> SCSI =
> >cable =3D
> > >and a =3D3D
> > > >single EDS=3D3D20
> > > > card. Test each MEC. Once you know if there is a problem
> there,
> =
> >add
> > =3D
> > >a
> > > =3D3D
> > > >new SCSI=3D3D20
> > > > cable and another card. Put different modules in the MECs
> so you
> =
> >=3D
> > >can =3D3D
> > > >see which=3D3D20
> > > > one is on card A, B, C at all times. this will give you
> the info
> =
> >=3D
> > >=3D3D
> > > >as to=3D3D20
> > > > how the cards are initializing and which card is card A,
> B, C as
> =
> >=3D
> > >you =3D3D
> > > >start=3D3D20
> > > > adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that
> were =
> >=3D
> > >working
> > > =3D3D
> > > >
> > > > perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't imagine it =
> >being
> > =3D
> > >a =3D3D
> > > >problem.=3D3D20
> > > > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue though. Your =
> >system
> > =3D
> > >=3D3D
> > > >will not=3D3D20
> > > > function with bad SCSI =3D3D
> > > >cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> > >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
> > >
> > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> > ><HTML><HEAD>
> > ><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
> > >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
> > ><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
> > ><STYLE></STYLE>
> > ></HEAD>
> > ><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Guys,</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm all set with the
> cables and
> =
> >the =3D
> > >which card is A=3D20
> > >bit.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Rod you were right about
> what I
> =
> >was=3D20
> > >asking.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>In any event I scaled down
> to =
> >one EDS =3D
> > >(Pretty sure=3D20
> > >that's card A right?!!!)</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>and plugged it into each
> of my =
> >two =3D
> > >working=3D20
> > >Mecs. Paris will boot but</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>even internal clock was
> never =
> >found nor
> > =3D
> > >were the=3D20
> > >in/outs on each Mec.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>The 442 on the other hand
> works
> =
> >like a
> > =3D
> > >champ one=3D20
> > >card only. I suspect</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>either all my Mecs are
> screwy =
> >now or =3D
> > >the SCSI=3D20
> > >cables are intermitant at best.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>It's working fine with the
> 442 =
> >so I'm =3D
> > >sticking with=3D20
> > >that for today.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'll add my EDS cards one
> by one
> =
> >and =3D
> > >see if that is=3D20
> > >back to normal.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks for the help and if I =
> >need scsi
> > =3D
> > >cables what=3D20
> > >and where to buy them would be good info too.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Mr Testy</FONT></DIV>
> > ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> > >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT:
> 5px; =
> >=3D
> > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > > <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=3D20
> > > =3D
> > =
> >>href=3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A
> <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>=
> >>&g=3D
> > >t;=3D20
> > > wrote in message <A=3D20
> > > =
> >href=3D3D"news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>I
> <news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>I>
> > =3D
> > >think Tom=3D20
> > > was asking if there was a "3.0" version of the EDS card that =3D
> > >needed<BR>to be=3D20
> > > connected to the master. The answer to that would be no. <BR>Is =
> >this =3D
> > >what you=3D20
> > > were asking Tom?<BR>DJ's advice is very important though. I
> would =
> >do =3D
> > >it, if=3D20
> > > you haven't already.<BR>I don't want to sound like a "RTFM"
> kind of
> =
> >=3D
> > >guy, but=3D20
> > > the Paris manual describes<BR>this procedure pretty
> well.<BR>It's =
> >on =3D
> > >page 4=3D20
> > > and 5 of the 3.0 version.<BR>It kind of sounds to me like you
> may =
> >not
> > =3D
> > >be=3D20
> > > hooking up the correct eds card<BR>to the master =
> >mec.<BR>Rod<BR>"DJ"=3D20
> > > <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net>=3D20
> > > wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> > > href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>> =
> >wrote =3D
> > >in message=3D20
> > > =3D3D<BR>>news:46972376@linux...<BR>> This is really a =3D
> > >novice oriented=3D20
> > > question but . . .<BR>> It doesn't matter which card is the =3D
> > >"A"=3D20
> > > card<BR>> in your system as far as Paris' ID orientation=3D20
> > > right?<BR>><BR>> Yes, it does, and the orientation of the =3D
> > >slots=3D20
> > > you are using in =3D3D<BR>>combination with the orientation
> of the
> =
> >=3D
> > >ribbon=3D20
> > > cables will determine =3D3D<BR>>this. Have you changed them
> around
> =
> >=3D
> > >during your=3D20
> > > reconfiguration?<BR>><BR>> Start with a new SCSI cable and =3D
> > >a=3D20
> > > single EDS card. Test each MEC. Once<BR>=3D3D<BR>>you know if
> there
> =
> >=3D
> > >is a=3D20
> > > problem there, add a new SCSI cable and another
> =3D3D<BR>>card. Put
> =
> >=3D
> > >different=3D20
> > > modules in the MECs so you can see which one is on
> =3D3D<BR>>card =
> >A, =3D
> > >B, C at=3D20
> > > all times. this will give you the info as to how the =
> >=3D3D<BR>>cards =3D
> > >are=3D20
> > > initializing and which card is card A, B, C as you start =3D
> > >=3D3D<BR>>adding more=3D20
> > > hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were working =3D
> > >=3D3D<BR>>perfectly=3D20
> > > when I took my system off line. I can't imagine it being a =3D
> > >=3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D20
> > > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue though. Your =3D
> > >=3D3D<BR>>system=3D20
> > > will not function with bad SCSI cables.<BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE =3D
> > >HTML=3D20
> > > PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D20
> > > Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=3D20
> > > http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html;=3D20
> > > =3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =3D
> > >content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20
> > > 6.00.6000.16414"=3D20
> > > =3D
> > >name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=3D
> > >D><BR>><BODY=3D20
> > > bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> > > dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; =
> >PADDING-LEFT: =3D
> > >5px;=3D20
> > > MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; =3D
> > >MARGIN-RIGHT:=3D20
> > > 0px"><BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> <DIV>"Tom =3D
> > >Bruhl"=3D20
> > > <<A=3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > > =3D
> > =
> >>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arp=
> >egi=3D
> > >o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D20
> > > wrote =3D3D<BR>>in message=3D3D20<BR>> <A href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > > =3D
> > =
> >>href=3D3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:469=
> >723=3D
> > >76@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=3D
> > >p;=3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>This is really a =3D
> > >novice oriented=3D20
> > > =3D3D<BR>>question but . .=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > .</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D
> > >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D2>It doesn't matter which card is the =3D
> > >=3D3D<BR>>"A"=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > card</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D
> > >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D2>in your system as far as Paris' ID=3D20
> > > =3D3D<BR>>orientation=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > right?</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D
> > >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D
> > ><DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, and
> the =3D
> > >orientation=3D20
> > > of<BR>=3D3D<BR>>the slots=3D3D20<BR>> you are using in =3D
> > >combination with=3D20
> > > the orientation of the ribbon=3D3D20<BR>> cables will
> determine =3D
> > >this.=3D20
> > > Have you changed them around during
> =3D3D<BR>>your=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> > >
> > > reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
> > ><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Start with a new
> SCSI =3D
> > >cable and a=3D20
> > > =3D3D<BR>>single EDS=3D3D20<BR>> card. Test each MEC. Once
> you =3D
> > >know if=3D20
> > > there is a problem there, add a<BR>=3D3D<BR>>new =3D
> > >SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> cable=3D20
> > > and another card. Put different modules in the MECs so you
> can =3D
> > >=3D3D<BR>>see=3D20
> > > which=3D3D20<BR>> one is on card A, B, C at all times. this =3D
> > >will give you=3D20
> > > the info =3D3D<BR>>as to=3D3D20<BR>> how the cards are =3D
> > >initializing and=3D20
> > > which card is card A, B, C as you =3D3D<BR>>start=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> > >adding more=3D20
> > > hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were=3D20
> > > working<BR>=3D3D<BR>><BR>> perfectly when I took my system =3D
> > >off line. I=3D20
> > > can't imagine it being a =3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D20<BR>> Bent =3D
> > >pins on SCSI=3D20
> > > cables can be a serious issue though. Your system =
> >=3D3D<BR>>will=3D20
> > > not=3D3D20<BR>> function with bad SCSI=3D20
> > > =3D
> > >=3D3D<BR>>cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>=3D
> > >;</BODY></HTML><BR>><BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
> > ><DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
> >spam, =3D
> > >and=3D20
> > >you?<BR><A=3D20
> > =
> >>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re
> <http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re>=
> >fer=3D
> > >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> ><HTML><HEAD>
> ><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
> >charset=3Diso-8859-1">
> ><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR>
> ><STYLE></STYLE>
> ></HEAD>
> ><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hey Rod,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hiding the default project didn't
> help=20
> >anything. I've never</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>had 2.?? installed on this comp
> so I =
> >think I'm safe=20
> >there regarding</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>drivers.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am only able to intermitantly
> get the
> =
> >442 working=20
> >as the master.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think that's do to the scsi cable =
> >issue. I=20
> >need four new ones.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am unable to get more than one
> EDS =
> >card working=20
> >WITH the 442.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Not sure why. The ribbons are all =
> >wired=20
> >correctly.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm off to a hellish gigging =
> >weekend. No more=20
> >time for hell in Paris.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for all your
> input,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> ><BLOCKQUOTE=20
> >style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
> > =
> >href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g
> <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g>=
> >t;=20
> > wrote in message <A=20
> >
> href=3D"news:4697ab8a@linux">news:4697ab8a@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Did
> <news:4697ab8a@linux">news:4697ab8a@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Did> =
> >you try=20
> > hiding the default ppj to see if it would boot up with a MEC =
> >when<BR>creating=20
> > a new session? <BR>Rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> > href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20>
> > wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Guys,<BR>>I'm all set with the cables =
> >and the=20
> > which card is A bit.<BR>>Rod you were right about what I was=20
> > asking.<BR>><BR>>In any event I scaled down to one EDS (Pretty =
> >sure=20
> > that's card A =3D<BR>>right?!!!)<BR>>and plugged it into each of =
> >my two=20
> > working Mecs. Paris will boot but<BR>>even internal clock was =
> >never=20
> > found nor were the in/outs on each Mec.<BR>>The 442 on the other =
> >hand works=20
> > like a champ one card only. I suspect<BR>>either all my Mecs =
> >are=20
> > screwy now or the SCSI cables are intermitant =
> >at<BR>=3D<BR>>best.<BR>>It's=20
> > working fine with the 442 so I'm sticking with that for =
> >today.<BR>>I'll add=20
> > my EDS cards one by one and see if that is back to=20
> > normal.<BR>><BR>>Thanks for the help and if I need scsi cables =
> >what and=20
> > where to buy them<BR>=3D<BR>>would be good info too.<BR>>Mr=20
> > Testy<BR>> "Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
> > =
> >href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g
> <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g>=
> >t;=20
> > wrote in message =
> >=3D<BR>>news:469780ce$1@linux...<BR>><BR>> I=20
> > think Tom was asking if there was a "3.0" version of the EDS card=20
> > =3D<BR>>that needed<BR>> to be connected to the master. =
> >The answer=20
> > to that would be no.=3D20<BR>> Is this what you were asking=20
> > Tom?<BR>> DJ's advice is very important though. I would do =
> >it, if you=20
> > haven't =3D<BR>>already.<BR>> I don't want to sound like a =
> >"RTFM"=20
> > kind of guy, but the Paris =
> >manual<BR>=3D<BR>>describes<BR>> this=20
> > procedure pretty well.<BR>> It's on page 4 and 5 of the 3.0=20
> > version.<BR>> It kind of sounds to me like you may not be =
> >hooking up=20
> > the correct eds<BR>=3D<BR>>card<BR>> to the master=20
> > mec.<BR>> Rod<BR>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ =
> >dot _=20
> > net> wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> =20
> > ><BR>> > "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> > href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>> wrote =
> >in message=20
> > =3D3D<BR>> >news:46972376@linux...<BR>> =
> >> This is=20
> > really a novice oriented question but . . .<BR>> > =
> >It=20
> > doesn't matter which card is the "A" card<BR>> > in =
> >your=20
> > system as far as Paris' ID orientation right?<BR>> =
> >><BR>> =20
> > > Yes, it does, and the orientation of the slots you are =
> >using in=20
> > =3D3D<BR>> >combination with the orientation of the ribbon =
> >cables=20
> > will determine<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >this. Have you =
> >changed them=20
> > around during your reconfiguration?<BR>> ><BR>> =20
> > > Start with a new SCSI cable and a single EDS card. Test =
> >each MEC.=20
> > =3D<BR>>Once<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> >you know if =
> >there is a=20
> > problem there, add a new SCSI cable and =3D<BR>>another =
> >=3D3D<BR>> =20
> > >card. Put different modules in the MECs so you can see which one =
> >is=20
> > =3D<BR>>on =3D3D<BR>> >card A, B, C at all times. this =
> >will give=20
> > you the info as to how the<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >cards =
> >are=20
> > initializing and which card is card A, B, C as you start=20
> > =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >adding more hardware. the MEC i =
> >sent you is one=20
> > of 4 that were =3D<BR>>working =3D3D<BR>> >perfectly =
> >when I took my=20
> > system off line. I can't imagine it being =
> >a<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =20
> > >problem. Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue though.=20
> > Your<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >system will not function =
> >with bad SCSI=20
> > cables.<BR>> ><BR>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC=20
> > "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"><BR>> =20
> > ><HTML><HEAD><BR>> ><META=20
> > http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html; =
> >=3D3D<BR>> =20
> > >charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>> ><META =
> >content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=20
> > 6.00.6000.16414" name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>> =20
> > ><STYLE></STYLE><BR>> =
> >></HEAD><BR>> =20
> > ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>> =
> >><BLOCKQUOTE=20
> > dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20<BR>> >style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =
> >0px;=20
> > PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =20
> > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
> >0px"><BR>> =20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
> >size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
> > </DIV><BR>> > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl"=20
> > <<A=3D3D20<BR>> > href=3D3D3D"<A=20
> > =
> >href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
> >o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=20
> > =3D<BR>>wrote =3D3D<BR>> >in =
> >message=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
> > <A href=3D3D3D"<A=20
> > =
> >href=3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:469723=
> >76@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=
> >p;=20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>This =
> >is really a=20
> > novice =3D<BR>>oriented =3D3D<BR>> >question but .=20
> > .=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> >.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>It =
> >doesn't matter=20
> > which card =3D<BR>>is the =3D3D<BR>> =
> >>"A"=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > > card</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>in your system as =
> >far as=20
> > =3D<BR>>Paris' ID =3D3D<BR>> =
> >>orientation=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > > right?</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
> > </DIV><BR>> > <DIV><BR>> =
> >> =20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, and =
> >the=20
> > =3D<BR>>orientation of<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> >the=20
> > slots=3D3D20<BR>> > you are using in combination =
> >with the=20
> > orientation of the =3D<BR>>ribbon=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> >cables will=20
> > determine this. Have you changed them around during =
> >=3D3D<BR>> =20
> > >your=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
> > reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
> > </DIV><BR>> > <DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D3D2>Start with a new SCSI cable =3D<BR>>and a =
> >=3D3D<BR>> =20
> > >single EDS=3D3D20<BR>> > card. Test each MEC. =
> >Once you=20
> > know if there is a problem there, add<BR>=3D<BR>>a<BR>> =20
> > =3D3D<BR>> >new SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> > cable =
> >and another=20
> > card. Put different modules in the MECs so you =3D<BR>>can =
> >=3D3D<BR>> =20
> > >see which=3D3D20<BR>> > one is on card A, B, C =
> >at all=20
> > times. this will give you the info =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =
> >>as=20
> > to=3D3D20<BR>> > how the cards are initializing and =
> >which card=20
> > is card A, B, C as =3D<BR>>you =3D3D<BR>> =
> >>start=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > > adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that =
> >were=20
> > =3D<BR>>working<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =
> >><BR>> > =20
> > perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't imagine it=20
> > being<BR>=3D<BR>>a =3D3D<BR>> =
> >>problem.=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue though. =
> >Your=20
> > system<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >will =
> >not=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > > function with bad SCSI =3D3D<BR>> =20
> > =
> >>cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></B=
> >ODY></HTML><BR>> =20
> > ><BR>> ><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>I choose =
> >Polesoft=20
> > Lockspam to fight spam, and=20
> > you?<BR>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
> > <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
> > Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=20
> > http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
> > =3D<BR>>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
> >content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
> > 6.00.2800.1400"=20
> > =
> >name=3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=
> >D><BR>><BODY=20
> > bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
> > =
> >size=3D3D2>Guys,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm all set with the cables and the =
> >=3D<BR>>which=20
> > card is =
> >A=3D20<BR>>bit.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Rod you were right about what I=20
> > =
> >was=3D20<BR>>asking.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FO=
> >NT=20
> > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> =
> ></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>In any event I scaled down to one EDS=20
> > =3D<BR>>(Pretty sure=3D20<BR>>that's card A=20
> > right?!!!)</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2>and plugged it into each of my two=20
> > =3D<BR>>working=3D20<BR>>Mecs. Paris will boot=20
> > but</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
> >
> > size=3D3D2>even internal clock was never found =
> >nor<BR>=3D<BR>>were=20
> > the=3D20<BR>>in/outs on each=20
> > Mec.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2>The 442 on the other hand works like =
> >a<BR>=3D<BR>>champ=20
> > one=3D20<BR>>card only. I=20
> > suspect</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2>either all my Mecs are screwy now or =3D<BR>>the=20
> > SCSI=3D20<BR>>cables are intermitant at=20
> > best.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2>It's working fine with the 442 so I'm =
> >=3D<BR>>sticking=20
> > with=3D20<BR>>that for=20
> > today.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2>I'll add my EDS cards one by one and =3D<BR>>see if =
> >that=20
> > is=3D20<BR>>back to=20
> > normal.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2>Thanks for the help and if I need =
> >scsi<BR>=3D<BR>>cables=20
> > what=3D20<BR>>and where to buy them would be good info=20
> > too.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D2>Mr=20
> > =
> >Testy</FONT></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR>>style=3D=
> >3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=20
> > 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: =
> >#000000 2px=20
> > solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Rod Lincoln"=20
> > <<A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
> > =
> >href=3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&a=
> >mp;g'>mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</=
> >A>&g</A>=3D<BR>>t;=3D20<BR>> =20
> > wrote in message <A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
> > =
> >href=3D'news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>I'>n=
> >ews:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV>&l=
> >t;BR>I</A><BR>=3D<BR>>think=20
> > Tom=3D20<BR>> was asking if there was a "3.0" version of the =
> >EDS card=20
> > that =3D<BR>>needed<BR>to be=3D20<BR>> connected to =
> >the master.=20
> > The answer to that would be no. <BR>Is this =3D<BR>>what=20
> > you=3D20<BR>> were asking Tom?<BR>DJ's advice is very =
> >important=20
> > though. I would do =3D<BR>>it, if=3D20<BR>> you haven't=20
> > already.<BR>I don't want to sound like a "RTFM" kind of =
> >=3D<BR>>guy,=20
> > but=3D20<BR>> the Paris manual describes<BR>this =
> >procedure pretty=20
> > well.<BR>It's on =3D<BR>>page 4=3D20<BR>> and 5 of =
> >the 3.0=20
> > version.<BR>It kind of sounds to me like you may=20
> > not<BR>=3D<BR>>be=3D20<BR>> hooking up the correct eds=20
> > card<BR>to the master =
> >mec.<BR>Rod<BR>"DJ"=3D20<BR>> =20
> > <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net>=3D20<BR>> =20
> > wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> "Tom =
> >Bruhl"=20
> > <<A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
> > =
> >href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
> >o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=20
> > wrote =3D<BR>>in message=3D20<BR>> =20
> > =3D3D<BR>>news:46972376@linux...<BR>> This is really =
> >a=20
> > =3D<BR>>novice oriented=3D20<BR>> question but . . =
> >.<BR>> It=20
> > doesn't matter which card is the =3D<BR>>"A"=3D20<BR>> =20
> > card<BR>> in your system as far as Paris' ID=20
> > orientation=3D20<BR>> right?<BR>><BR>> Yes, =
> >it does,=20
> > and the orientation of the =3D<BR>>slots=3D20<BR>> you are =
> >using in=20
> > =3D3D<BR>>combination with the orientation of the=20
> > =3D<BR>>ribbon=3D20<BR>> cables will determine =
> >=3D3D<BR>>this.=20
> > Have you changed them around =3D<BR>>during your=3D20<BR>> =
> >
> > reconfiguration?<BR>><BR>> Start with a new SCSI =
> >cable and=20
> > =3D<BR>>a=3D20<BR>> single EDS card. Test each MEC.=20
> > Once<BR>=3D3D<BR>>you know if there =3D<BR>>is=20
> > a=3D20<BR>> problem there, add a new SCSI cable and another=20
> > =3D3D<BR>>card. Put =3D<BR>>different=3D20<BR>> =
> >modules in the=20
> > MECs so you can see which one is on =3D3D<BR>>card A, =
> >=3D<BR>>B, C=20
> > at=3D20<BR>> all times. this will give you the info as to how =
> >the=20
> > =3D3D<BR>>cards =3D<BR>>are=3D20<BR>> =
> >initializing and which=20
> > card is card A, B, C as you start =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>adding =
> >
> > more=3D20<BR>> hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that =
> >were=20
> > working =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>perfectly=3D20<BR>> =
> >when I took my=20
> > system off line. I can't imagine it being a=20
> > =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D20<BR>> Bent pins on =
> >SCSI cables=20
> > can be a serious issue though. Your=20
> > =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>system=3D20<BR>> will not =
> >function with bad=20
> > SCSI cables.<BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE=20
> > =3D<BR>>HTML=3D20<BR>> PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML =
> >4.0=3D20<BR>> =20
> > =
> >Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>>=
> ><META=3D20<BR>> =20
> > http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type =
> >content=3D3D3D"text/html;=3D20<BR>> =20
> > =3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
> >
> > =3D<BR>>content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20<BR>> =20
> > 6.00.6000.16414"=3D20<BR>> =20
> > =
> >=3D<BR>>name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE&=
> >gt;<BR>></HEA=3D<BR>>D><BR>><BODY=3D20<BR>&=
> >gt; =20
> > =
> >bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR>> =
> >
> > dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; =
> >PADDING-LEFT:=20
> > =3D<BR>>5px;=3D20<BR>> MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
> >=3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT:=20
> > #000000 2px solid; =3D<BR>>MARGIN-RIGHT:=3D20<BR>> =20
> > 0px"><BR>> <DIV><FONT =
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
> > size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =
> ><DIV>"Tom=20
> > =3D<BR>>Bruhl"=3D20<BR>> <<A=3D3D20<BR>>=20
> > href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20<BR>> =20
> > =
> >=3D<BR>>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net&l=
> >t;/A'>mailto:arpegi=3D<BR>>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net<=
> >;/A</A>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
> > wrote =3D3D<BR>>in message=3D3D20<BR>> <A=20
> > href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20<BR>> =20
> > =
> >=3D<BR>>href=3D3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>=
> >;...</DIV'>news:469723=3D<BR>>76@linux">news:46972376@linux&l=
> >t;/A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=3D<BR>>p;=3D20=
> ><BR>> =20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>This is really a=20
> > =3D<BR>>novice oriented=3D20<BR>> =
> >=3D3D<BR>>question but .=20
> > .=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20<BR>> =20
> > .</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=20
> > =3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>It =
> >doesn't matter which=20
> > card is the =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>"A"=3D3D20<BR>> =
> >=3D20<BR>> =20
> > card</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=20
> > =3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>in your =
> >system as far=20
> > as Paris' ID=3D20<BR>> =
> >=3D3D<BR>>orientation=3D3D20<BR>>=20
> > =3D20<BR>> right?</FONT></DIV><BR>>=20
> > <DIV><FONT =3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
> > size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>>=20
> > =3D<BR>><DIV><BR>> =3D20<BR>> =
> ><DIV><FONT=20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, and the=20
> > =3D<BR>>orientation=3D20<BR>> =
> >of<BR>=3D3D<BR>>the=20
> > slots=3D3D20<BR>> you are using in =3D<BR>>combination=20
> > with=3D20<BR>> the orientation of the =
> >ribbon=3D3D20<BR>> cables=20
> > will determine =3D<BR>>this.=3D20<BR>> Have you changed =
> >them around=20
> > during =3D3D<BR>>your=3D3D20<BR>> =
> >=3D<BR>><BR>> =20
> > reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR>>=20
> > =3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3DArial=20
> > size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =
> >=3D20<BR>> =20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Start with a new =
> >SCSI=20
> > =3D<BR>>cable and a=3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>single=20
> > EDS=3D3D20<BR>> card. Test each MEC. Once you =3D<BR>>know =
> >
> > if=3D20<BR>> there is a problem there, add=20
> > a<BR>=3D3D<BR>>new =3D<BR>>SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> =
> >
> > cable=3D20<BR>> and another card. Put different modules in =
> >the MECs so=20
> > you can =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>see=3D20<BR>> =20
> > which=3D3D20<BR>> one is on card A, B, C at all times. this=20
> > =3D<BR>>will give you=3D20<BR>> the info =
> >=3D3D<BR>>as=20
> > to=3D3D20<BR>> how the cards are =3D<BR>>initializing=20
> > and=3D20<BR>> which card is card A, B, C as you=20
> > =3D3D<BR>>start=3D3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>adding=20
> > more=3D20<BR>> hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that=20
> > were=3D20<BR>> =
> >working<BR>=3D3D<BR>><BR>>=20
> > perfectly when I took my system =3D<BR>>off line. =
> >I=3D20<BR>> can't=20
> > imagine it being a =3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D20<BR>> =
> >Bent=20
> > =3D<BR>>pins on SCSI=3D20<BR>> cables can be a serious =
> >issue though.=20
> > Your system =3D3D<BR>>will=3D20<BR>> =
> >not=3D3D20<BR>>=20
> > function with bad SCSI=3D20<BR>> =20
> > =
> >=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV>=
> >;</BLOCKQUOTE>=3D<BR>>;</BODY></HTML><BR>>&=
> >lt;BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> > size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
> >spam,=20
> > =
> >=3D<BR>>and=3D20<BR>>you?<BR><A=3D20<BR>>href=3D3D" <A=20
> > =
> >href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
> >'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=
> >>=3D<BR>>.html</A>=20
> > =
> ></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML><BR>><BR>><BR></=
> >BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> >
> >
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| Re: Paris hardware troubles won't stop. HELP!!! [message #88146 is a reply to message #88099] |
Sun, 15 July 2007 19:14 |
Tom Bruhl
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
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Ya Jeff,
At least half the times no C-16 was attached.
Do you think that a bad C-16 cable could cause these issues?
I'll remove them from the setup until all is well.
I know at least a few times it worked that the C-16 did also.
Tom=20
"Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message =
news:4699b378@linux...
Tom,
Stupid question, but did you ever start up without any c16's? If so =
did=20
you see the same issue?
Jeff
Bruhl wrote:
> Rod,
> I am working from a clone that was totally good with two
> fully loaded Mecs. I have to assume the drivers are good.
> I'm looking for a good vendor for SCSI cables now.
> They're called SCSI 2 right?
> http://www.m2cables.com/SCSI2toSCSI2CablesHDB50MtoML6.html
> =20
> I'm thinking of cleaning the female jacks on the mec and EDS to be
> sure all is well. Any sprays anyone suggests? I've got Deoxit.
> Good?
> Tom
>=20
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com
> <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com>> wrote in message
> news:4697f7e2$1@linux...
>=20
> Tom, sounds like it probably is a scsi issue. Your running xp =
right?
> The new
> Scherzo drivers are for xp verses 98 not for 3.0 verses 2.x
> Come to think of it. you probably whoudn't have had any old =
drivers
> on your
> xp sys drive anyway...never mind.
> Rod
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>> =
wrote:
> >
> >
> >Hey Rod,
> >Hiding the default project didn't help anything. I've never
> >had 2.?? installed on this comp so I think I'm safe there =
regarding
> >drivers.
> >
> >I am only able to intermitantly get the 442 working as the =
master.
> >I think that's do to the scsi cable issue. I need four new =
ones.
> >I am unable to get more than one EDS card working WITH the =
442.
> >Not sure why. The ribbons are all wired correctly.
> >
> >I'm off to a hellish gigging weekend. No more time for hell =
in Paris.
> >Thanks for all your input,
> >Tom
> > "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com
> <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com>> wrote in message =3D
> >news:4697ab8a@linux...
> >
> > Did you try hiding the default ppj to see if it would boot =
up
> with a =3D
> >MEC when
> > creating a new session?=3D20
> > Rod
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net =
<mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >Guys,
> > >I'm all set with the cables and the which card is A bit.
> > >Rod you were right about what I was asking.
> > >
> > >In any event I scaled down to one EDS (Pretty sure that's =
card
> A =3D3D
> > >right?!!!)
> > >and plugged it into each of my two working Mecs. Paris =
will
> boot but
> > >even internal clock was never found nor were the in/outs on
> each Mec.
> > >The 442 on the other hand works like a champ one card only. =
I =3D
> >suspect
> > >either all my Mecs are screwy now or the SCSI cables are
> intermitant
> =3D
> >at
> > =3D3D
> > >best.
> > >It's working fine with the 442 so I'm sticking with that =
for today.
> > >I'll add my EDS cards one by one and see if that is back to =
normal.
> > >
> > >Thanks for the help and if I need scsi cables what and =
where to
> buy =3D
> >them
> > =3D3D
> > >would be good info too.
> > >Mr Testy
> > > "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com
> <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com>> wrote in message =3D3D
> > >news:469780ce$1@linux...
> > >
> > > I think Tom was asking if there was a "3.0" version of =
the
> EDS card
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >that needed
> > > to be connected to the master. The answer to that would =
be
> no.=3D3D20
> > > Is this what you were asking Tom?
> > > DJ's advice is very important though. I would do it, if =
you
> haven't
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >already.
> > > I don't want to sound like a "RTFM" kind of guy, but the =
Paris =3D
> >manual
> > =3D3D
> > >describes
> > > this procedure pretty well.
> > > It's on page 4 and 5 of the 3.0 version.
> > > It kind of sounds to me like you may not be hooking up =
the
> correct
> =3D
> >eds
> > =3D3D
> > >card
> > > to the master mec.
> > > Rod
> > > "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>> wrote in message =3D3D3D
> > > >news:46972376@linux...
> > > > This is really a novice oriented question but . . .
> > > > It doesn't matter which card is the "A" card
> > > > in your system as far as Paris' ID orientation right?
> > > >
> > > > Yes, it does, and the orientation of the slots you are
> using in
> =3D
> >=3D3D3D
> > > >combination with the orientation of the ribbon cables =
will =3D
> >determine
> > =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >this. Have you changed them around during your =
reconfiguration?
> > > >
> > > > Start with a new SCSI cable and a single EDS card. =
Test each =3D
> >MEC. =3D3D
> > >Once
> > > =3D3D3D
> > > >you know if there is a problem there, add a new SCSI =
cable
> and =3D3D
> > >another =3D3D3D
> > > >card. Put different modules in the MECs so you can see =
which
> one =3D
> >is =3D3D
> > >on =3D3D3D
> > > >card A, B, C at all times. this will give you the info =
as to
> how =3D
> >the
> > =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >cards are initializing and which card is card A, B, C as =
you
> start
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 =
that
> were =3D3D
> > >working =3D3D3D
> > > >perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't =
imagine it
> being
> =3D
> >a
> > =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >problem. Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue
> though. =3D
> >Your
> > =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >system will not function with bad SCSI cables.
> > > >
> > > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 =
Transitional//EN">
> > > ><HTML><HEAD>
> > > ><META http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type =
content=3D3D3D3D"text/html; =3D
> >=3D3D3D
> > > >charset=3D3D3D3Diso-8859-1">
> > > ><META content=3D3D3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16414"
> name=3D3D3D3DGENERATOR>
> > > ><STYLE></STYLE>
> > > ></HEAD>
> > > ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff>
> > > ><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20
> > > >style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px;
> MARGIN-LEFT: =3D
> >5px; =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV>
> > > > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D3D20
> > > >=20
> href=3D3D3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>>
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >wrote =3D3D3D
> > > >in message=3D3D3D20
> > > > <A =3D
> =
>href=3D3D3D3D"news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV
> <news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV>>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>This is =
really a
> novice
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >oriented =3D3D3D
> > > >question but . .=3D3D3D20
> > > > .</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>It =
doesn't matter
> which
> =3D
> >card =3D3D
> > >is the =3D3D3D
> > > >"A"=3D3D3D20
> > > > card</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>in your =
system as
> far =3D
> >as =3D3D
> > >Paris' ID =3D3D3D
> > > >orientation=3D3D3D20
> > > > right?</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV>
> > > > <DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Yes, it =
does, and
> the =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >orientation of
> > > =3D3D3D
> > > >the slots=3D3D3D20
> > > > you are using in combination with the orientation of =
the =3D3D
> > >ribbon=3D3D3D20
> > > > cables will determine this. Have you changed them =
around
> during
> =3D
> >=3D3D3D
> > > >your=3D3D3D20
> > > > reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Start =
with a new
> SCSI =3D
> >cable =3D3D
> > >and a =3D3D3D
> > > >single EDS=3D3D3D20
> > > > card. Test each MEC. Once you know if there is a =
problem
> there,
> =3D
> >add
> > =3D3D
> > >a
> > > =3D3D3D
> > > >new SCSI=3D3D3D20
> > > > cable and another card. Put different modules in the =
MECs
> so you
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >can =3D3D3D
> > > >see which=3D3D3D20
> > > > one is on card A, B, C at all times. this will give =
you
> the info
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >as to=3D3D3D20
> > > > how the cards are initializing and which card is card =
A,
> B, C as
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >you =3D3D3D
> > > >start=3D3D3D20
> > > > adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 =
that
> were =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >working
> > > =3D3D3D
> > > >
> > > > perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't =
imagine it =3D
> >being
> > =3D3D
> > >a =3D3D3D
> > > >problem.=3D3D3D20
> > > > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue =
though. Your =3D
> >system
> > =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >will not=3D3D3D20
> > > > function with bad SCSI =3D3D3D
> > > >cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> > >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =3D20
> > >
> > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 =
Transitional//EN">
> > ><HTML><HEAD>
> > ><META http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type =
content=3D3D3D"text/html; =3D3D
> > >charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1">
> > ><META content=3D3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" =
name=3D3D3DGENERATOR>
> > ><STYLE></STYLE>
> > ></HEAD>
> > ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Guys,</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'm all set with =
the
> cables and
> =3D
> >the =3D3D
> > >which card is A=3D3D20
> > >bit.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Rod you were right =
about
> what I
> =3D
> >was=3D3D20
> > >asking.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>In any event I =
scaled down
> to =3D
> >one EDS =3D3D
> > >(Pretty sure=3D3D20
> > >that's card A right?!!!)</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>and plugged it =
into each
> of my =3D
> >two =3D3D
> > >working=3D3D20
> > >Mecs. Paris will boot but</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>even internal =
clock was
> never =3D
> >found nor
> > =3D3D
> > >were the=3D3D20
> > >in/outs on each Mec.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>The 442 on the =
other hand
> works
> =3D
> >like a
> > =3D3D
> > >champ one=3D3D20
> > >card only. I suspect</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>either all my Mecs =
are
> screwy =3D
> >now or =3D3D
> > >the SCSI=3D3D20
> > >cables are intermitant at best.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>It's working fine =
with the
> 442 =3D
> >so I'm =3D3D
> > >sticking with=3D3D20
> > >that for today.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'll add my EDS =
cards one
> by one
> =3D
> >and =3D3D
> > >see if that is=3D3D20
> > >back to normal.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Thanks for the =
help and if I =3D
> >need scsi
> > =3D3D
> > >cables what=3D3D20
> > >and where to buy them would be good info too.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Mr =
Testy</FONT></DIV>
> > ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20
> > >style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; =
MARGIN-LEFT:
> 5px; =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > > <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com=
</A
> =
<mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>=3D
> >>&g=3D3D
> > >t;=3D3D20
> > > wrote in message <A=3D3D20
> > > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D3D"news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR=
>I
> <news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>I>
> > =3D3D
> > >think Tom=3D3D20
> > > was asking if there was a "3.0" version of the EDS card =
that =3D3D
> > >needed<BR>to be=3D3D20
> > > connected to the master. The answer to that would be no. =
<BR>Is =3D
> >this =3D3D
> > >what you=3D3D20
> > > were asking Tom?<BR>DJ's advice is very important though. =
I
> would =3D
> >do =3D3D
> > >it, if=3D3D20
> > > you haven't already.<BR>I don't want to sound like a =
"RTFM"
> kind of
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >guy, but=3D3D20
> > > the Paris manual describes<BR>this procedure pretty
> well.<BR>It's =3D
> >on =3D3D
> > >page 4=3D3D20
> > > and 5 of the 3.0 version.<BR>It kind of sounds to me like =
you
> may =3D
> >not
> > =3D3D
> > >be=3D3D20
> > > hooking up the correct eds card<BR>to the master =3D
> >mec.<BR>Rod<BR>"DJ"=3D3D20
> > > <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net>=3D3D20
> > > wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D20
> > > =
href=3D3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>> =3D
> >wrote =3D3D
> > >in message=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D<BR>>news:46972376@linux...<BR>> This is really a =
=3D3D
> > >novice oriented=3D3D20
> > > question but . . .<BR>> It doesn't matter which card is =
the =3D3D
> > >"A"=3D3D20
> > > card<BR>> in your system as far as Paris' ID =
orientation=3D3D20
> > > right?<BR>><BR>> Yes, it does, and the orientation of the =
=3D3D
> > >slots=3D3D20
> > > you are using in =3D3D3D<BR>>combination with the =
orientation
> of the
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >ribbon=3D3D20
> > > cables will determine =3D3D3D<BR>>this. Have you changed =
them
> around
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >during your=3D3D20
> > > reconfiguration?<BR>><BR>> Start with a new SCSI cable =
and =3D3D
> > >a=3D3D20
> > > single EDS card. Test each MEC. Once<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>you =
know if
> there
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >is a=3D3D20
> > > problem there, add a new SCSI cable and another
> =3D3D3D<BR>>card. Put
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >different=3D3D20
> > > modules in the MECs so you can see which one is on
> =3D3D3D<BR>>card =3D
> >A, =3D3D
> > >B, C at=3D3D20
> > > all times. this will give you the info as to how the =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>cards =3D3D
> > >are=3D3D20
> > > initializing and which card is card A, B, C as you start =
=3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D<BR>>adding more=3D3D20
> > > hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were =
working =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D<BR>>perfectly=3D3D20
> > > when I took my system off line. I can't imagine it being =
a =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D20
> > > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue though. =
Your =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D<BR>>system=3D3D20
> > > will not function with bad SCSI =
cables.<BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE =3D3D
> > >HTML=3D3D20
> > > PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D3D20
> > > Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=3D3D20
> > > http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type =
content=3D3D3D3D"text/html;=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =3D3D
> > >content=3D3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D3D20
> > > 6.00.6000.16414"=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > >name=3D3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=3D3D
> > >D><BR>><BODY=3D3D20
> > > bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20
> > > =
dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; =3D
> >PADDING-LEFT: =3D3D
> > >5px;=3D3D20
> > > MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px =
solid; =3D3D
> > >MARGIN-RIGHT:=3D3D20
> > > 0px"><BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> <DIV>"Tom =3D3D
> > >Bruhl"=3D3D20
> > > <<A=3D3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:=
arp=3D
> >egi=3D3D
> > >o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D3D20
> > > wrote =3D3D3D<BR>>in message=3D3D3D20<BR>> <A =
href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:=
469=3D
> >723=3D3D
> > =
>76@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=3D3D
> > >p;=3D3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>This is =
really a =3D3D
> > >novice oriented=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D<BR>>question but . .=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> > > .</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D3D
> > >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D3D2>It doesn't matter which card is the =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D<BR>>"A"=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> > > card</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D3D
> > >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D3D2>in your system as far as Paris' ID=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D<BR>>orientation=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> > > right?</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D3D
> > >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> > ><DIV><BR>> =3D3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Yes, it =
does, and
> the =3D3D
> > >orientation=3D3D20
> > > of<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>the slots=3D3D3D20<BR>> you are using =
in =3D3D
> > >combination with=3D3D20
> > > the orientation of the ribbon=3D3D3D20<BR>> cables will
> determine =3D3D
> > >this.=3D3D20
> > > Have you changed them around during
> =3D3D3D<BR>>your=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
> > >
> > > reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> > ><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> > > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =
=3D3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Start with a =
new
> SCSI =3D3D
> > >cable and a=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D<BR>>single EDS=3D3D3D20<BR>> card. Test each MEC. =
Once
> you =3D3D
> > >know if=3D3D20
> > > there is a problem there, add a<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>new =3D3D
> > >SCSI=3D3D3D20<BR>> cable=3D3D20
> > > and another card. Put different modules in the MECs so =
you
> can =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D<BR>>see=3D3D20
> > > which=3D3D3D20<BR>> one is on card A, B, C at all times. =
this =3D3D
> > >will give you=3D3D20
> > > the info =3D3D3D<BR>>as to=3D3D3D20<BR>> how the cards =
are =3D3D
> > >initializing and=3D3D20
> > > which card is card A, B, C as you =
=3D3D3D<BR>>start=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
> > >adding more=3D3D20
> > > hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were=3D3D20
> > > working<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>><BR>> perfectly when I took my =
system =3D3D
> > >off line. I=3D3D20
> > > can't imagine it being a =
=3D3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D3D20<BR>> Bent =3D3D
> > >pins on SCSI=3D3D20
> > > cables can be a serious issue though. Your system =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>will=3D3D20
> > > not=3D3D3D20<BR>> function with bad SCSI=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D<BR>>cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>=3D3D
> > >;</BODY></HTML><BR>><BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
> > ><DIV><FONT size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam =
to fight =3D
> >spam, =3D3D
> > >and=3D3D20
> > >you?<BR><A=3D3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com=
/re
> =
<http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re>=3D
> >fer=3D3D
> > >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> ><HTML><HEAD>
> ><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
> >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
> ><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
> ><STYLE></STYLE>
> ></HEAD>
> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hey Rod,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hiding the default =
project didn't
> help=3D20
> >anything. I've never</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>had 2.?? installed on =
this comp
> so I =3D
> >think I'm safe=3D20
> >there regarding</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>drivers.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am only able to =
intermitantly
> get the
> =3D
> >442 working=3D20
> >as the master.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I think that's do to the =
scsi cable =3D
> >issue. I=3D20
> >need four new ones.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am unable to get more =
than one
> EDS =3D
> >card working=3D20
> >WITH the 442.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Not sure why. The ribbons =
are all =3D
> >wired=3D20
> >correctly.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm off to a hellish =
gigging =3D
> >weekend. No more=3D20
> >time for hell in Paris.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks for all your
> input,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px; =3D
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A=
>&g
> =
<mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g>=3D
> >t;=3D20
> > wrote in message <A=3D20
> >=20
> =
href=3D3D"news:4697ab8a@linux">news:4697ab8a@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Did
> <news:4697ab8a@linux">news:4697ab8a@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Did> =
=3D
> >you try=3D20
> > hiding the default ppj to see if it would boot up with a MEC =
=3D
> >when<BR>creating=3D20
> > a new session? <BR>Rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> > =
href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20>
> > wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Guys,<BR>>I'm all set with the cables =
=3D
> >and the=3D20
> > which card is A bit.<BR>>Rod you were right about what I =
was=3D20
> > asking.<BR>><BR>>In any event I scaled down to one EDS =
(Pretty =3D
> >sure=3D20
> > that's card A =3D3D<BR>>right?!!!)<BR>>and plugged it into =
each of =3D
> >my two=3D20
> > working Mecs. Paris will boot but<BR>>even internal clock =
was =3D
> >never=3D20
> > found nor were the in/outs on each Mec.<BR>>The 442 on the =
other =3D
> >hand works=3D20
> > like a champ one card only. I suspect<BR>>either all my Mecs =
=3D
> >are=3D20
> > screwy now or the SCSI cables are intermitant =3D
> >at<BR>=3D3D<BR>>best.<BR>>It's=3D20
> > working fine with the 442 so I'm sticking with that for =3D
> >today.<BR>>I'll add=3D20
> > my EDS cards one by one and see if that is back to=3D20
> > normal.<BR>><BR>>Thanks for the help and if I need scsi =
cables =3D
> >what and=3D20
> > where to buy them<BR>=3D3D<BR>>would be good info =
too.<BR>>Mr=3D20
> > Testy<BR>> "Rod Lincoln" <<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A=
>&g
> =
<mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g>=3D
> >t;=3D20
> > wrote in message =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>news:469780ce$1@linux...<BR>><BR>> I=3D20
> > think Tom was asking if there was a "3.0" version of the EDS =
card=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>that needed<BR>> to be connected to the master. =
=3D
> >The answer=3D20
> > to that would be no.=3D3D20<BR>> Is this what you were =
asking=3D20
> > Tom?<BR>> DJ's advice is very important though. I would do =
=3D
> >it, if you=3D20
> > haven't =3D3D<BR>>already.<BR>> I don't want to sound like a =
=3D
> >"RTFM"=3D20
> > kind of guy, but the Paris =3D
> >manual<BR>=3D3D<BR>>describes<BR>> this=3D20
> > procedure pretty well.<BR>> It's on page 4 and 5 of the =
3.0=3D20
> > version.<BR>> It kind of sounds to me like you may not be =
=3D
> >hooking up=3D20
> > the correct eds<BR>=3D3D<BR>>card<BR>> to the master=3D20
> > mec.<BR>> Rod<BR>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ =3D
> >dot _=3D20
> > net> wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> =3D20
> > ><BR>> > "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> > href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>> wrote =3D
> >in message=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>> >news:46972376@linux...<BR>> =3D
> >> This is=3D20
> > really a novice oriented question but . . .<BR>> > =3D
> >It=3D20
> > doesn't matter which card is the "A" card<BR>> > in =3D
> >your=3D20
> > system as far as Paris' ID orientation right?<BR>> =3D
> >><BR>> =3D20
> > > Yes, it does, and the orientation of the slots you are =3D
> >using in=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>> >combination with the orientation of the ribbon =
=3D
> >cables=3D20
> > will determine<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >this. Have you =3D
> >changed them=3D20
> > around during your reconfiguration?<BR>> ><BR>> =3D20
> > > Start with a new SCSI cable and a single EDS card. Test =
=3D
> >each MEC.=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>Once<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>> >you know if =3D
> >there is a=3D20
> > problem there, add a new SCSI cable and =3D3D<BR>>another =
=3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >card. Put different modules in the MECs so you can see =
which one =3D
> >is=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>on =3D3D3D<BR>> >card A, B, C at all times. this =
=3D
> >will give=3D20
> > you the info as to how the<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >cards =
=3D
> >are=3D20
> > initializing and which card is card A, B, C as you =
start=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >adding more hardware. the MEC i =3D
> >sent you is one=3D20
> > of 4 that were =3D3D<BR>>working =3D3D3D<BR>> >perfectly =3D
> >when I took my=3D20
> > system off line. I can't imagine it being =3D
> >a<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >problem. Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue =
though.=3D20
> > Your<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >system will not function =3D
> >with bad SCSI=3D20
> > cables.<BR>> ><BR>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC=3D20
> > "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"><BR>> =3D20
> > ><HTML><HEAD><BR>> ><META=3D20
> > http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D3D"text/html; =
=3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >charset=3D3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>> ><META =3D
> >content=3D3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20
> > 6.00.6000.16414" name=3D3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>> =3D20
> > ><STYLE></STYLE><BR>> =3D
> >></HEAD><BR>> =3D20
> > ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>> =3D
> >><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> > dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20<BR>> >style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =
=3D
> >0px;=3D20
> > PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =
=3D20
> > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: =3D
> >0px"><BR>> =3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
> >size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20
> > </DIV><BR>> > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl"=3D20
> > <<A=3D3D3D20<BR>> > href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arp=
egi=3D
> >o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>wrote =3D3D3D<BR>> >in =3D
> >message=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D20
> > <A href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:469=
723=3D
> >76@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=3D
> >p;=3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>This =3D
> >is really a=3D20
> > novice =3D3D<BR>>oriented =3D3D3D<BR>> >question but .=3D20
> > .=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D
> >.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>It =3D
> >doesn't matter=3D20
> > which card =3D3D<BR>>is the =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >>"A"=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > card</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>in your system =
as =3D
> >far as=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>Paris' ID =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >>orientation=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > right?</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20
> > </DIV><BR>> > <DIV><BR>> =3D
> >> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, =
and =3D
> >the=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>orientation of<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>> >the=3D20
> > slots=3D3D3D20<BR>> > you are using in combination =3D
> >with the=3D20
> > orientation of the =3D3D<BR>>ribbon=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D
> >cables will=3D20
> > determine this. Have you changed them around during =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >your=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D20
> > reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20
> > </DIV><BR>> > <DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2>Start with a new SCSI cable =3D3D<BR>>and a =
=3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >single EDS=3D3D3D20<BR>> > card. Test each MEC. =3D
> >Once you=3D20
> > know if there is a problem there, add<BR>=3D3D<BR>>a<BR>> =
=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>> >new SCSI=3D3D3D20<BR>> > cable =3D
> >and another=3D20
> > card. Put different modules in the MECs so you =3D3D<BR>>can =
=3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >see which=3D3D3D20<BR>> > one is on card A, B, C =3D
> >at all=3D20
> > times. this will give you the info =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =
=3D
> >>as=3D20
> > to=3D3D3D20<BR>> > how the cards are initializing and =3D
> >which card=3D20
> > is card A, B, C as =3D3D<BR>>you =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >>start=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that =
=3D
> >were=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>working<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >><BR>> > =3D20
> > perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't imagine =
it=3D20
> > being<BR>=3D3D<BR>>a =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >>problem.=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue though. =
=3D
> >Your=3D20
> > system<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >will =3D
> >not=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > function with bad SCSI =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> >>cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></B=3D
> >ODY></HTML><BR>> =3D20
> > ><BR>> ><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>I choose =3D
> >Polesoft=3D20
> > Lockspam to fight spam, and=3D20
> > you?<BR>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =3D20
> > <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D20
> > Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=3D20
> > http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html;=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =3D
> >content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20
> > 6.00.2800.1400"=3D20
> > =3D
> >name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=3D
> >D><BR>><BODY=3D20
> > bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > =3D
> >size=3D3D3D2>Guys,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'm all set with the cables =
and the =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>which=3D20
> > card is =3D
> >A=3D3D20<BR>>bit.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Rod you were right about what =
I=3D20
> > =3D
> >was=3D3D20<BR>>asking.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FO=3D
> >NT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D
> ></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>In any event I scaled down to =
one EDS=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>(Pretty sure=3D3D20<BR>>that's card A=3D20
> > right?!!!)</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>and plugged it into each of my two=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>working=3D3D20<BR>>Mecs. Paris will boot=3D20
> > but</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =3D
> >
> > size=3D3D3D2>even internal clock was never found =3D
> >nor<BR>=3D3D<BR>>were=3D20
> > the=3D3D20<BR>>in/outs on each=3D20
> > Mec.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>The 442 on the other hand works like =3D
> >a<BR>=3D3D<BR>>champ=3D20
> > one=3D3D20<BR>>card only. I=3D20
> > suspect</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>either all my Mecs are screwy now or =
=3D3D<BR>>the=3D20
> > SCSI=3D3D20<BR>>cables are intermitant at=3D20
> > best.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>It's working fine with the 442 so I'm =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>sticking=3D20
> > with=3D3D20<BR>>that for=3D20
> > today.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>I'll add my EDS cards one by one and =
=3D3D<BR>>see if =3D
> >that=3D20
> > is=3D3D20<BR>>back to=3D20
> > normal.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>Thanks for the help and if I need =3D
> >scsi<BR>=3D3D<BR>>cables=3D20
> > what=3D3D20<BR>>and where to buy them would be good =
info=3D20
> > too.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>Mr=3D20
> > =3D
> >Testy</FONT></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D=3D
> >3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=3D20
> > 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
=3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: =3D
> >#000000 2px=3D20
> > solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Rod Lincoln"=3D20
> > <<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A=
>&a=3D
> =
>mp;g'>mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</=3D
> >A>&g</A>=3D3D<BR>>t;=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > wrote in message <A=3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D'news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>I=
'>n=3D
> >ews:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV>&l=3D
> >t;BR>I</A><BR>=3D3D<BR>>think=3D20
> > Tom=3D3D20<BR>> was asking if there was a "3.0" version of =
the =3D
> >EDS card=3D20
> > that =3D3D<BR>>needed<BR>to be=3D3D20<BR>> connected to =3D
> >the master.=3D20
> > The answer to that would be no. <BR>Is this =
=3D3D<BR>>what=3D20
> > you=3D3D20<BR>> were asking Tom?<BR>DJ's advice is very =3D
> >important=3D20
> > though. I would do =3D3D<BR>>it, if=3D3D20<BR>> you =
haven't=3D20
> > already.<BR>I don't want to sound like a "RTFM" kind of =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>guy,=3D20
> > but=3D3D20<BR>> the Paris manual describes<BR>this =3D
> >procedure pretty=3D20
> > well.<BR>It's on =3D3D<BR>>page 4=3D3D20<BR>> and 5 of =3D
> >the 3.0=3D20
> > version.<BR>It kind of sounds to me like you may=3D20
> > not<BR>=3D3D<BR>>be=3D3D20<BR>> hooking up the correct =
eds=3D20
> > card<BR>to the master =3D
> >mec.<BR>Rod<BR>"DJ"=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> "Tom =3D
> >Bruhl"=3D20
> > <<A=3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arp=
egi=3D
> >o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D20
> > wrote =3D3D<BR>>in message=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>news:46972376@linux...<BR>> This is really =3D
> >a=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>novice oriented=3D3D20<BR>> question but . . =3D
> >.<BR>> It=3D20
> > doesn't matter which card is the =3D3D<BR>>"A"=3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D20
> > card<BR>> in your system as far as Paris' ID=3D20
> > orientation=3D3D20<BR>> right?<BR>><BR>> Yes, =3D
> >it does,=3D20
> > and the orientation of the =3D3D<BR>>slots=3D3D20<BR>> you =
are =3D
> >using in=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>combination with the orientation of the=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>ribbon=3D3D20<BR>> cables will determine =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>this.=3D20
> > Have you changed them around =3D3D<BR>>during =
your=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >
> > reconfiguration?<BR>><BR>> Start with a new SCSI =3D
> >cable and=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>a=3D3D20<BR>> single EDS card. Test each MEC.=3D20
> > Once<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>you know if there =3D3D<BR>>is=3D20
> > a=3D3D20<BR>> problem there, add a new SCSI cable and =
another=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>card. Put =3D3D<BR>>different=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >modules in the=3D20
> > MECs so you can see which one is on =3D3D3D<BR>>card A, =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>B, C=3D20
> > at=3D3D20<BR>> all times. this will give you the info as to =
how =3D
> >the=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>cards =3D3D<BR>>are=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >initializing and which=3D20
> > card is card A, B, C as you start =
=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>adding =3D
> >
> > more=3D3D20<BR>> hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 =
that =3D
> >were=3D20
> > working =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>perfectly=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >when I took my=3D20
> > system off line. I can't imagine it being a=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D20<BR>> Bent pins on =3D
> >SCSI cables=3D20
> > can be a serious issue though. Your=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>system=3D3D20<BR>> will not =3D
> >function with bad=3D20
> > SCSI cables.<BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE=3D20
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> > size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D
> ><DIV>"Tom=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>Bruhl"=3D3D20<BR>> <<A=3D3D3D20<BR>>=3D20
> > href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> =
>=3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net&l=3D=
> =
>t;/A'>mailto:arpegi=3D3D<BR>>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net<=3D
> >;/A</A>>>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > wrote =3D3D3D<BR>>in message=3D3D3D20<BR>> <A=3D20
> > href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> =
>=3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>=3D
> =
>;...</DIV'>news:469723=3D3D<BR>>76@linux">news:46972376@linux&l=3D
> >t;/A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=3D3D<BR>>p;=3D3D20=3D
> ><BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>This is really =
a=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>novice oriented=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>question but .=3D20
> > .=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > .</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D3D2>It =
=3D
> >doesn't matter which=3D20
> > card is the =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>"A"=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > card</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D3D2>in =
your =3D
> >system as far=3D20
> > as Paris' ID=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>orientation=3D3D3D20<BR>>=3D20
> > =3D3D20<BR>> right?</FONT></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> > <DIV><FONT =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>>=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>><DIV><BR>> =3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> ><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, and the=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>orientation=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >of<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>the=3D20
> > slots=3D3D3D20<BR>> you are using in =
=3D3D<BR>>combination=3D20
> > with=3D3D20<BR>> the orientation of the =3D
> >ribbon=3D3D3D20<BR>> cables=3D20
> > will determine =3D3D<BR>>this.=3D3D20<BR>> Have you changed =
=3D
> >them around=3D20
> > during =3D3D3D<BR>>your=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>><BR>> =3D20
> > reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Start with a =
new =3D
> >SCSI=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>cable and a=3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>>single=3D20
> > EDS=3D3D3D20<BR>> card. Test each MEC. Once you =
=3D3D<BR>>know =3D
> >
> > if=3D3D20<BR>> there is a problem there, add=3D20
> > a<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>new =3D3D<BR>>SCSI=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >
> > cable=3D3D20<BR>> and another card. Put different modules in =
=3D
> >the MECs so=3D20
> > you can =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>see=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > which=3D3D3D20<BR>> one is on card A, B, C at all times. =
this=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>will give you=3D3D20<BR>> the info =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>as=3D20
> > to=3D3D3D20<BR>> how the cards are =
=3D3D<BR>>initializing=3D20
> > and=3D3D20<BR>> which card is card A, B, C as you=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>start=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>adding=3D20
> > more=3D3D20<BR>> hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 =
that=3D20
> > were=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >working<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>><BR>>=3D20
> > perfectly when I took my system =3D3D<BR>>off line. =3D
> >I=3D3D20<BR>> can't=3D20
> > imagine it being a =3D3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >Bent=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>pins on SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> cables can be a serious =
=3D
> >issue though.=3D20
> > Your system =3D3D3D<BR>>will=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >not=3D3D3D20<BR>>=3D20
> > function with bad SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV>=3D
> >;</BLOCKQUOTE>=3D3D<BR>>;</BODY></HTML><BR>>&=3D
> >lt;BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =3D
> >spam,=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>=3D3D<BR>>and=3D3D20<BR>>you?<BR><A=3D3D20<BR>>href=3D3D3D "<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
fer=3D
> =
>'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=3D=
> >>=3D3D<BR>>.html</A>=3D20
> > =3D
> ></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML><BR>><BR>><BR></=3D
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ya Jeff,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>At least half the times no C-16 was=20
attached.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Do you think that a bad C-16 cable =
could cause=20
these issues?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll remove them from the setup until =
all is=20
well.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I know at least a few times =
it worked=20
that the C-16 did also.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"Jeff Hoover" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>> wrote =
in message=20
<A=20
=
href=3D"news:4699b378@linux">news:4699b378@linux</A>...</DIV>Tom,<BR><BR>=
Stupid=20
question, but did you ever start up without any c16's? If so did =
<BR>you=20
see the same issue?<BR><BR>Jeff<BR><BR><BR>Bruhl wrote:<BR>> =
Rod,<BR>> I=20
am working from a clone that was totally good with two<BR>> fully =
loaded=20
Mecs. I have to assume the drivers are good.<BR>> I'm looking =
for a=20
good vendor for SCSI cables now.<BR>> They're called SCSI 2 =
right?<BR>>=20
<A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.m2cables.com/SCSI2toSCSI2CablesHDB50MtoML6.html">http:=
//www.m2cables.com/SCSI2toSCSI2CablesHDB50MtoML6.html</A><BR >> =20
<BR>> I'm thinking of cleaning the female jacks on the mec and EDS =
to=20
be<BR>> sure all is well. Any sprays anyone suggests? =
I've got=20
Deoxit.<BR>> Good?<BR>> Tom<BR>> =
<BR>> =20
"Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A><B=
R>> =20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.co=
m</A>>>=20
wrote in message<BR>> <A=20
href=3D"news:4697f7e2$1@linux">news:4697f7e2$1@linux</A>...<BR>>=20
<BR>> Tom, sounds like it probably is a =
scsi issue.=20
Your running xp right?<BR>> The=20
new<BR>> Scherzo drivers are for xp verses =
98 not=20
for 3.0 verses 2.x<BR>> Come to think of =
it. you=20
probably whoudn't have had any old =
drivers<BR>> on=20
your<BR>> xp sys drive anyway...never=20
mind.<BR>> =
Rod<BR>> "Tom=20
Bruhl" <<A =
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A> <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">mailto:arpegio@comcast.net</A>>>=
;=20
wrote:<BR> > =2 0
><BR> > =2 0
><BR>> >Hey=20
Rod,<BR>> >Hiding the default =
project=20
didn't help anything. I've =
never<BR> > =2 0
>had 2.?? installed on this comp so I think I'm safe there=20
regarding<BR> > =2 0
>drivers.<BR> > =2 0
><BR>> >I am only able to =
intermitantly=20
get the 442 working as the =
master.<BR>> >I=20
think that's do to the scsi cable issue. I need four new=20
ones.<BR>> >I am unable to get =
more than=20
one EDS card working WITH the =
442.<BR> > =2 0
>Not sure why. The ribbons are all wired=20
correctly.<BR> > =2 0
><BR>> >I'm off to a hellish =
gigging=20
weekend. No more time for hell in=20
Paris.<BR>> >Thanks for all your=20
input,<BR> > =2 0
>Tom<BR>> > "Rod Lincoln" =
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A><B=
R>> =20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.co=
m</A>>>=20
wrote in message =3D<BR> > =2 0
>news:4697ab8a@linux...<BR> > =2 0
><BR>> > Did you try =
hiding the=20
default ppj to see if it would boot up<BR>> =
with a=20
=3D<BR>> >MEC=20
when<BR>> > creating a new=20
session?=3D20<BR>> > =20
Rod<BR>> > "Tom Bruhl" =
<<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A> <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">mailto:arpegio@comcast.net</A>>>=
;<BR>> =20
wrote:<BR>> > =20
><BR>> > =20
><BR>> > =20
>Guys,<BR>> > >I'm all =
set=20
with the cables and the which card is A=20
bit.<BR>> > >Rod you were =
right=20
about what I was asking.<BR>> =
> =20
><BR>> > >In any event =
I=20
scaled down to one EDS (Pretty sure that's=20
card<BR>> A=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>right?!!!)<BR>> > =
>and=20
plugged it into each of my two working Mecs. Paris=20
will<BR>> boot=20
but<BR>> > >even internal =
clock=20
was never found nor were the in/outs =
on<BR>> each=20
Mec.<BR>> > >The 442 on =
the other=20
hand works like a champ one card only. I=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>suspect<BR>> > =
>either all my=20
Mecs are screwy now or the SCSI cables =
are<BR>> =20
intermitant<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>at<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>best.<BR>> > >It's =
working=20
fine with the 442 so I'm sticking with that for=20
today.<BR>> > >I'll add =
my EDS=20
cards one by one and see if that is back to=20
normal.<BR>> > =20
><BR>> > >Thanks for =
the help=20
and if I need scsi cables what and where =
to<BR>> =20
buy =3D<BR> > =2 0
>them<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > >would be =
good info=20
too.<BR>> > >Mr=20
Testy<BR>> > > "Rod =
Lincoln" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A><B=
R>> =20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.co=
m</A>>>=20
wrote in message =3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
>news:469780ce$1@linux...<BR>> =
> =20
><BR>> > > I =
think Tom=20
was asking if there was a "3.0" version of =
the<BR>> =20
EDS card<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > >that=20
needed<BR>> > > to =
be=20
connected to the master. The answer to that would=20
be<BR>> =20
no.=3D3D20<BR>> > > =
Is this=20
what you were asking Tom?<BR>> =
> =20
> DJ's advice is very important though. I would do it, if=20
you<BR>> =
haven't<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>already.<BR>> > =
> I=20
don't want to sound like a "RTFM" kind of guy, but the Paris=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>manual<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>describes<BR>> > =
> this=20
procedure pretty well.<BR>> =
> =20
> It's on page 4 and 5 of the 3.0=20
version.<BR>> > > =
It kind=20
of sounds to me like you may not be hooking up=20
the<BR>> =
correct<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>eds<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>card<BR>> > > =
to the=20
master mec.<BR>> > =
> =20
Rod<BR>> > > "DJ"=20
<animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net>=20
wrote:<BR>> > > =20
><BR>> > > =20
><BR>> > > =20
><BR>> > > =
> =20
"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A><BR>> =
=20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">mailto:arpegio@comcast.net</A>>>=
; wrote=20
in message =3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>news:46972376@linux...<BR>> =
> =20
> > This is really a novice oriented question but . =
..=20
.<BR>> > > =
> It=20
doesn't matter which card is the "A"=20
card<BR>> > > =
> in=20
your system as far as Paris' ID orientation=20
right?<BR>> > > =20
><BR>> > > =
> =20
Yes, it does, and the orientation of the slots you=20
are<BR>> using =
in<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>combination with the orientation of the ribbon cables will=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>determine<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>this. Have you changed them around during your=20
reconfiguration?<BR>> > =
> =20
><BR>> > > =
> =20
Start with a new SCSI cable and a single EDS card. Test each=20
=3D<BR>> >MEC.=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>Once<BR>> > > =20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > > =
>you know=20
if there is a problem there, add a new SCSI=20
cable<BR>> and=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >another=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > > =
>card.=20
Put different modules in the MECs so you can see=20
which<BR>> one=20
=3D<BR>> >is=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >on=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > > =
>card A,=20
B, C at all times. this will give you the info as=20
to<BR>> how =
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>the<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>cards are initializing and which card is card A, B, C as=20
you<BR>> =
start<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4=20
that<BR>> were=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >working=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > > =20
>perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't imagine=20
it<BR>> =
being<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>a<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>problem. Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious=20
issue<BR>> though.=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>Your<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>system will not function with bad SCSI=20
cables.<BR>> > > =20
><BR>> > > =20
><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
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> =
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> =20
> <DIV>"Tom Bruhl"=20
<<A=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
> <BR>> href=3D3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A><BR>> =
=20
<<A=20
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href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>><BR>> =
=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > >wrote=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > > =
>in=20
message=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
> <A =3D<BR>> =
>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:469723=
76@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV</A><BR>> &n=
bsp; =20
<<A=20
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href=3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:469723=
76@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV</A>>><BR>>=
=20
> > > <DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>This is really a<BR>> =20
novice<BR>> =
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =
>oriented=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > > =
>question=20
but . .=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
> =
..</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> > > <DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>It doesn't matter<BR>> =20
which<BR>> =
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>card =3D3D<BR>> > >is =
the=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > > =20
>"A"=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
> =
card</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> > > <DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>in your system as<BR>> =
far=20
=3D<BR>> >as=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >Paris' ID=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > > =20
>orientation=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> > =20
right?</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> > > <DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> > =
> =20
> <DIV><BR>> =
> =20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, and<BR>> =
the=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =
>orientation=20
of<BR>> > > =20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > > =
>the=20
slots=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
> you are using in combination with the orientation of the=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>ribbon=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
> cables will determine this. Have you changed them=20
around<BR>> =
during<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>your=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
> =20
=
reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR >> =
=20
> > > <DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> > =
> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>Start with a=20
new<BR>> SCSI=20
=3D<BR>> >cable=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >and a=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > > =
>single=20
EDS=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
> card. Test each MEC. Once you know if there is a=20
problem<BR>> =
there,<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>add<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>a<BR>> > > =20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > > =
>new=20
SCSI=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
> cable and another card. Put different modules in the=20
MECs<BR>> so =
you<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > >can=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > > =
>see=20
which=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
> one is on card A, B, C at all times. this will give=20
you<BR>> the =
info<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> >as=20
to=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
> how the cards are initializing and which card is card=20
A,<BR>> B, C =
as<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > >you=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > > =20
>start=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
> adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4=20
that<BR>> were=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>working<BR>> > =
> =20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > > =20
><BR>> > > =
> =20
perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't imagine it=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>being<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > >a=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > > =20
>problem.=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =
> > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue =
though.=20
Your =3D<BR> > =2 0
>system<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> >will=20
not=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
> function with bad SCSI =
=3D3D3D<BR> > =2 0
> > =20
=
>cables.</FONT></DIV>& ;lt;/DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></B=
ODY></HTML><BR> > =2 0
> > ><BR>> =
> =20
> ><BR>> > =20
><BR>> > =20
><BR>> > =20
><BR>> > >I choose =
Polesoft=20
Lockspam to fight spam, and you?<BR>> =
> >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
=3D20<BR>> > =20
><BR>> > ><!DOCTYPE =
HTML=20
PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
Transitional//EN"><BR>> > =
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> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
=
size=3D3D3D2>Guys,</FONT></DIV&a mp;gt; <BR>> &=
nbsp; =20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>I'm all set=20
with the<BR>> cables=20
and<BR>> =
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>the =3D3D<BR>> > =
>which card is=20
A=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
=
>bit.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>Rod you were=20
right about<BR>> what=20
I<BR>> =
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>was=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
=
>asking.</FONT></DIV><BR >>  =
;=20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> > =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>In any event =
I scaled=20
down<BR>> to=20
=3D<BR>> >one EDS=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >(Pretty=20
sure=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>that's card A=20
=
right?!!!)</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
=20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>and plugged it=20
into each<BR>> of my=20
=3D<BR>> >two=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>working=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>Mecs.=20
Paris will boot=20
but</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>even internal =
clock=20
was<BR>> never=20
=3D<BR>> >found=20
nor<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > >were=20
the=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>in/outs on each=20
Mec.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>The 442 on =
the other=20
hand<BR>> =
works<BR>> =20
=3D<BR>> >like=20
a<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > >champ=20
one=3D3D20<BR>> > >card =
only. I=20
suspect</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>either all my=20
Mecs are<BR>> screwy=20
=3D<BR>> >now or=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >the=20
SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>cables are=20
intermitant at=20
best.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>It's working=20
fine with the<BR>> 442=20
=3D<BR>> >so I'm=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >sticking=20
with=3D3D20<BR>> > >that =
for=20
today.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>I'll add my=20
EDS cards one<BR>> by=20
one<BR>> =
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>and =3D3D<BR>> > >see =
if that=20
is=3D3D20<BR>> > >back to =
normal.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> > =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Thanks for =
the help and=20
if I =3D<BR>> >need=20
scsi<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > >cables=20
what=3D3D20<BR>> > >and =
where to=20
buy them would be good info=20
too.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Mr=20
Testy</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> =
><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20<BR> > =2 0
> >style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px;=20
MARGIN-LEFT:<BR>> 5px;=20
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0px"><BR>> > > =20
<DIV>"Rod Lincoln" =
<<A=3D3D20<BR> > =2 0
> > =3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
=3D<BR>> >>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
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href=3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A'>m=
ailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A</A><B=
R>> =20
<<A=20
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href=3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A'>m=
ailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A</A>&g=
t;=3D<BR> > =2 0
>>&g=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>t;=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> wrote=20
in message <A=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> =3D<BR>> =
>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
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href=3D'news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>I'>n=
ews:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV>&l=
t;BR>I</A><BR>> =20
<<A=20
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href=3D'news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>I'>n=
ews:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV>&l=
t;BR>I</A>><BR> > =2 0
> =3D3D<BR>> > =
>think=20
Tom=3D3D20<BR>> > > =
was=20
asking if there was a "3.0" version of the EDS card that=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>needed<BR>to=20
be=3D3D20<BR>> > > =
connected=20
to the master. The answer to that would be no. <BR>Is=20
=3D<BR>> >this=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >what=20
you=3D3D20<BR>> > > =
were=20
asking Tom?<BR>DJ's advice is very important though.=20
I<BR>> would=20
=3D<BR>> >do=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >it,=20
if=3D3D20<BR>> > > =
you=20
haven't already.<BR>I don't want to sound like a=20
"RTFM"<BR>> kind =
of<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > >guy,=20
but=3D3D20<BR>> > > =
the Paris=20
manual describes<BR>this procedure=20
pretty<BR>> well.<BR>It's=20
=3D<BR>> >on=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >page=20
4=3D3D20<BR>> > > =
and 5 of=20
the 3.0 version.<BR>It kind of sounds to me like=20
you<BR>> may=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>not<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>be=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
hooking up the correct eds card<BR>to the master=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
=
>mec.<BR>Rod<BR>"DJ"=3D3D20 <BR>>  =
; =20
> > <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _=20
net>=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
wrote:<BR>><BR>>&a mp;lt;BR>><BR>> "Tom =
Bruhl"=20
<<A=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A><BR>> =
=20
<<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>>=20
=3D<BR>> >wrote=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >in=20
message=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
=3D3D3D<BR>>news:46972376@linux...<BR>> This is =
really a=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >novice=20
oriented=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
question but . . .<BR>> It doesn't matter which card is the=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>"A"=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
card<BR>> in your system as far as Paris' ID=20
orientation=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
right?<BR>><BR>> Yes, it does, and the orientation =
of the=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>slots=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> you=20
are using in =3D3D3D<BR>>combination with the=20
orientation<BR>> of=20
the<BR>> =
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>ribbon=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
cables will determine =3D3D3D<BR>>this. Have you changed=20
them<BR>> =
around<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > >during=20
your=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
reconfiguration?<BR>><BR> > Start with a new SCSI =
cable and=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>a=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> single=20
EDS card. Test each MEC. Once<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>you know=20
if<BR>> =
there<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > >is=20
a=3D3D20<BR>> > > =
problem=20
there, add a new SCSI cable and =
another<BR>> =20
=3D3D3D<BR>>card. Put<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>different=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
modules in the MECs so you can see which one is=20
on<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>>card=20
=3D<BR>> >A,=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >B, C=20
at=3D3D20<BR>> > > =
all times.=20
this will give you the info as to how the=20
=3D<BR>> =
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right?</FONT></DIV><BR&am p;gt;> <DIV><FONT=20
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will<BR>> determine=20
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> =20
Have you changed them around during<BR>> =20
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reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV>&am p;lt;BR>>=20
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> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>Start with a new<BR>> =
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a=3D3D20<BR>> > > =20
=3D3D3D<BR>>single EDS=3D3D3D20<BR>> card. Test each =
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the info=20
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more=3D3D20<BR>> > =
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hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that=20
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working<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>&a mp;lt;BR>> perfectly when I =
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PUBLIC=20
"-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
Transitional//EN"><BR> > =2 0
><HTML><HEAD><BR> > =2 0
><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
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>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR> > =2 0
><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400"=20
name=3D3DGENERATOR><BR> > =2 0
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></HEAD><BR>> ><BODY=20
bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hey=20
Rod,</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hiding the =
default project=20
didn't<BR>> =20
help=3D20<BR>> >anything. I've=20
never</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>had 2.?? =
installed on this=20
comp<BR>> so I=20
=3D<BR>> >think I'm=20
safe=3D20<BR>> >there=20
=
regarding</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
=
size=3D3D2>drivers.</FONT></DIV& amp;gt; <BR>> =
=20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am only able to=20
intermitantly<BR>> get=20
the<BR>> =
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>442 working=3D20<BR>> >as the=20
master.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I think that's do =
to the scsi=20
cable =3D<BR>> >issue.=20
I=3D20<BR>> >need four new=20
ones.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am unable to =
get more than=20
one<BR>> EDS=20
=3D<BR>> >card=20
working=3D20<BR>> >WITH the=20
442.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Not sure why. The =
ribbons are=20
all =3D<BR> > =2 0
>wired=3D20<BR> > =2 0
=
>correctly.</FONT></DIV><BR >> &n=
bsp;=20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm off to a hellish gigging=20
=3D<BR>> >weekend. No=20
more=3D20<BR>> >time for hell in=20
Paris.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks for all=20
your<BR>> =20
input,</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
=
size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV&g t; <BR>>  =
; =20
><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR> > =2 0
>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px;=20
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solid;=20
MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> =
> =20
<DIV>"Rod Lincoln" =
<<A=3D20<BR> > =2 0
> =3D<BR>> >href=3D3D"<A=20
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href=3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&a=
mp;g'>mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</=
A>&g</A><BR>> =20
<<A=20
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href=3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&a=
mp;g'>mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</=
A>&g</A>>=3D<BR> > =2 0
>t;=3D20<BR>> > wrote in =
message=20
<A=3D20<BR>> >=20
<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:4697ab8a@linux">news:4697ab8a@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Did'>new=
s:4697ab8a@linux">news:4697ab8a@linux</A>...</DIV><BR&g=
t;Did</A><BR>> =20
<<A=20
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href=3D'news:4697ab8a@linux">news:4697ab8a@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Did'>new=
s:4697ab8a@linux">news:4697ab8a@linux</A>...</DIV><BR&g=
t;Did</A>>=20
=3D<BR>> >you=20
try=3D20<BR>> > hiding the =
default ppj=20
to see if it would boot up with a MEC =
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>when<BR>creating=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
a new session? <BR>Rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl"=20
<<A=3D20<BR>> > =
href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto=
:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20</A><BR>&g=
t; =20
<<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto=
:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20</A>><B=
R> > =2 0
> =20
wrote:<BR>><BR>>&a mp;lt;BR>>Guys,<BR>>I'm =
all set=20
with the cables =3D<BR>> >and=20
the=3D20<BR>> > which card =
is A=20
bit.<BR>>Rod you were right about what I=20
was=3D20<BR>> > =20
asking.<BR>><BR>>I n any event I scaled down to one =
EDS=20
(Pretty =3D<BR> > =2 0
>sure=3D20<BR>> > that's =
card A=20
=3D3D<BR>>right?!!!)<BR>& amp;gt;and plugged it into each of =
=3D<BR>> >my=20
two=3D20<BR>> > working =
Mecs. Paris=20
will boot but<BR>>even internal clock was=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>never=3D20<BR>> > found =
nor were=20
the in/outs on each Mec.<BR>>The 442 on the other=20
=3D<BR>> >hand=20
works=3D20<BR>> > like a =
champ one=20
card only. I suspect<BR>>either all my Mecs=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>are=3D20<BR>> > screwy =
now or the=20
SCSI cables are intermitant =3D<BR> > =2 0
=
>at<BR>=3D3D<BR>>b est.<BR>>It's=3D20 <BR>>&n=
bsp; =20
> working fine with the 442 so I'm sticking with that for=20
=3D<BR>> >today.<BR>>I'll =
add=3D20<BR>> > my EDS cards =
one by=20
one and see if that is back =
to=3D20<BR> > =2 0
> normal.<BR>><BR>>T hanks for the help and =
if I=20
need scsi cables =3D<BR>> >what=20
and=3D20<BR>> > where to buy =
them<BR>=3D3D<BR>>would be good info=20
too.<BR>>Mr=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
Testy<BR>> "Rod Lincoln"=20
<<A=3D20<BR>> > =20
=3D<BR>> >href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&a=
mp;g'>mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</=
A>&g</A><BR>> =20
<<A=20
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href=3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&a=
mp;g'>mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</=
A>&g</A>>=3D<BR> > =2 0
>t;=3D20<BR>> > wrote in =
message=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
=
>=3D3D<BR>>news:469780ce$1@linux...<BR>><BR>&g=
t;=20
I=3D20<BR>> > think Tom was =
asking if=20
there was a "3.0" version of the EDS=20
card=3D20<BR>> > =
=3D3D<BR>>that=20
needed<BR>> to be connected to the master.=20
=3D<BR>> >The=20
answer=3D20<BR>> > to that =
would be=20
no.=3D3D20<BR>> Is this what you were=20
asking=3D20<BR>> > =
Tom?<BR>>=20
DJ's advice is very important though. I would do=20
=3D<BR>> >it, if=20
you=3D20<BR>> > haven't=20
=3D3D<BR>>already.<BR>&am p;gt; I don't want to sound like a =
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>"RTFM"=3D20<BR>> > kind =
of guy,=20
but the Paris =3D<BR> > =2 0
>manual<BR>=3D3D<BR>& gt;describes<BR>>=20
this=3D20<BR>> > procedure =
pretty=20
well.<BR>> It's on page 4 and 5 of the=20
3.0=3D20<BR>> > =
version.<BR>>=20
It kind of sounds to me like you may not be=20
=3D<BR>> >hooking=20
up=3D20<BR>> > the correct=20
eds<BR>=3D3D<BR>>card& ;lt;BR>> to the=20
master=3D20<BR>> > =
mec.<BR>>=20
Rod<BR>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _=20
=3D<BR>> >dot=20
_=3D20<BR>> > net>=20
wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> > =
><BR>> >=20
"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A><BR>> =
=20
<<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>>=20
wrote =3D<BR>> >in=20
message=3D20<BR>> > =20
=3D3D3D<BR>> >news:46972376@linux...<BR>>=20
=3D<BR>> >> This=20
is=3D20<BR>> > really a =
novice=20
oriented question but . . .<BR>> >=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>It=3D20<BR>> > doesn't =
matter=20
which card is the "A" card<BR>> > in=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>your=3D20<BR>> > system =
as far as=20
Paris' ID orientation right?<BR>>=20
=3D<BR>> >><BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> > > Yes, it =
does, and=20
the orientation of the slots you are =
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>using in=3D20<BR>> > =20
=3D3D3D<BR>> >combination with the orientation of the =
ribbon=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>cables=3D20<BR>> > will=20
determine<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3 D3D3D<BR>> >this. =
Have you=20
=3D<BR>> >changed=20
them=3D20<BR>> > around =
during your=20
reconfiguration?<BR>> ><BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> > > Start with =
a new=20
SCSI cable and a single EDS card. Test =
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>each MEC.=3D20<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>>Once<BR>> ; =3D3D3D<BR>> >you =
know if=20
=3D<BR>> >there is=20
a=3D20<BR>> > problem there, =
add a new=20
SCSI cable and =3D3D<BR>>another=20
=3D<BR>> >=3D3D3D<BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> > >card. Put =
different=20
modules in the MECs so you can see which one=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>is=3D20<BR>> > =
=3D3D<BR>>on=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> >card A, B, C at all times. this=20
=3D<BR>> >will=20
give=3D20<BR>> > you the =
info as to=20
how the<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D& amp;lt;BR>> >cards=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>are=3D20<BR>> > =
initializing and=20
which card is card A, B, C as you=20
start=3D20<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>& ;gt; >adding more hardware. the =
MEC i=20
=3D<BR>> >sent you is=20
one=3D20<BR>> > of 4 that =
were=20
=3D3D<BR>>working =3D3D3D<BR>> >perfectly=20
=3D<BR>> >when I took=20
my=3D20<BR>> > system off =
line. I=20
can't imagine it being =3D<BR> > =2 0
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| Re: Paris hardware troubles won't stop. HELP!!! [message #88149 is a reply to message #88146] |
Sun, 15 July 2007 19:45 |
JeffH
Messages: 307
Registered: October 2007
Location: Wamic, OR
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Tom,
I just had some wierd issues at one point, systme not starting, crashin
etc. switch c-16's and it was fine. I'm just thinking start at minimum
hardward (one EDS, one MEC) and work your way up. If you can't get it
consistently with the minimums, it's time to create a new image from
scratch and then do it again.
Wish you were close by...I'd blow off a day to help solve this one. I
know the frustration. this past week I had an all day session (eight
straight hours) with no burps whatsoever. Hopefully you can get it there.
Jeff
> Ya Jeff,
> At least half the times no C-16 was attached.
> Do you think that a bad C-16 cable could cause these issues?
> I'll remove them from the setup until all is well.
> I know at least a few times it worked that the C-16 did also.
> Tom
>
>
>
> "Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com <mailto:jkhoover@excite.com>>
> wrote in message news:4699b378@linux...
> Tom,
>
> Stupid question, but did you ever start up without any c16's? If so
> did
> you see the same issue?
>
> Jeff
>
>
> Bruhl wrote:
> > Rod,
> > I am working from a clone that was totally good with two
> > fully loaded Mecs. I have to assume the drivers are good.
> > I'm looking for a good vendor for SCSI cables now.
> > They're called SCSI 2 right?
> > http://www.m2cables.com/SCSI2toSCSI2CablesHDB50MtoML6.html
> >
> > I'm thinking of cleaning the female jacks on the mec and EDS to be
> > sure all is well. Any sprays anyone suggests? I've got Deoxit.
> > Good?
> > Tom
> >
> > "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com
> <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com>
> > <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com>> wrote in message
> > news:4697f7e2$1@linux...
> >
> > Tom, sounds like it probably is a scsi issue. Your running xp
> right?
> > The new
> > Scherzo drivers are for xp verses 98 not for 3.0 verses 2.x
> > Come to think of it. you probably whoudn't have had any old
> drivers
> > on your
> > xp sys drive anyway...never mind.
> > Rod
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >Hey Rod,
> > >Hiding the default project didn't help anything. I've never
> > >had 2.?? installed on this comp so I think I'm safe there
> regarding
> > >drivers.
> > >
> > >I am only able to intermitantly get the 442 working as the
> master.
> > >I think that's do to the scsi cable issue. I need four new
> ones.
> > >I am unable to get more than one EDS card working WITH the 442.
> > >Not sure why. The ribbons are all wired correctly.
> > >
> > >I'm off to a hellish gigging weekend. No more time for
> hell in Paris.
> > >Thanks for all your input,
> > >Tom
> > > "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com
> <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com>
> > <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com>> wrote in message =
> > >news:4697ab8a@linux...
> > >
> > > Did you try hiding the default ppj to see if it would boot up
> > with a =
> > >MEC when
> > > creating a new session?=20
> > > Rod
> > > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Guys,
> > > >I'm all set with the cables and the which card is A bit.
> > > >Rod you were right about what I was asking.
> > > >
> > > >In any event I scaled down to one EDS (Pretty sure
> that's card
> > A =3D
> > > >right?!!!)
> > > >and plugged it into each of my two working Mecs. Paris will
> > boot but
> > > >even internal clock was never found nor were the in/outs on
> > each Mec.
> > > >The 442 on the other hand works like a champ one card
> only. I =
> > >suspect
> > > >either all my Mecs are screwy now or the SCSI cables are
> > intermitant
> > =
> > >at
> > > =3D
> > > >best.
> > > >It's working fine with the 442 so I'm sticking with that
> for today.
> > > >I'll add my EDS cards one by one and see if that is back
> to normal.
> > > >
> > > >Thanks for the help and if I need scsi cables what and
> where to
> > buy =
> > >them
> > > =3D
> > > >would be good info too.
> > > >Mr Testy
> > > > "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com
> <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com>
> > <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com>> wrote in message =3D
> > > >news:469780ce$1@linux...
> > > >
> > > > I think Tom was asking if there was a "3.0" version of the
> > EDS card
> > =
> > >=3D
> > > >that needed
> > > > to be connected to the master. The answer to that would be
> > no.=3D20
> > > > Is this what you were asking Tom?
> > > > DJ's advice is very important though. I would do it,
> if you
> > haven't
> > =
> > >=3D
> > > >already.
> > > > I don't want to sound like a "RTFM" kind of guy, but
> the Paris =
> > >manual
> > > =3D
> > > >describes
> > > > this procedure pretty well.
> > > > It's on page 4 and 5 of the 3.0 version.
> > > > It kind of sounds to me like you may not be hooking up the
> > correct
> > =
> > >eds
> > > =3D
> > > >card
> > > > to the master mec.
> > > > Rod
> > > > "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>
> > <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>> wrote in message =3D3D
> > > > >news:46972376@linux...
> > > > > This is really a novice oriented question but . . .
> > > > > It doesn't matter which card is the "A" card
> > > > > in your system as far as Paris' ID orientation right?
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, it does, and the orientation of the slots you are
> > using in
> > =
> > >=3D3D
> > > > >combination with the orientation of the ribbon cables
> will =
> > >determine
> > > =3D
> > > >=3D3D
> > > > >this. Have you changed them around during your
> reconfiguration?
> > > > >
> > > > > Start with a new SCSI cable and a single EDS card.
> Test each =
> > >MEC. =3D
> > > >Once
> > > > =3D3D
> > > > >you know if there is a problem there, add a new SCSI
> cable
> > and =3D
> > > >another =3D3D
> > > > >card. Put different modules in the MECs so you can
> see which
> > one =
> > >is =3D
> > > >on =3D3D
> > > > >card A, B, C at all times. this will give you the
> info as to
> > how =
> > >the
> > > =3D
> > > >=3D3D
> > > > >cards are initializing and which card is card A, B, C
> as you
> > start
> > =
> > >=3D
> > > >=3D3D
> > > > >adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that
> > were =3D
> > > >working =3D3D
> > > > >perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't
> imagine it
> > being
> > =
> > >a
> > > =3D
> > > >=3D3D
> > > > >problem. Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue
> > though. =
> > >Your
> > > =3D
> > > >=3D3D
> > > > >system will not function with bad SCSI cables.
> > > > >
> > > > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0
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> > > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > > > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D20
> > > > >
> >
> href=3D3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A
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> > <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A
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> > =
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> > > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>This is
> really a
> > novice
> > =
> > >=3D
> > > >oriented =3D3D
> > > > >question but . .=3D3D20
> > > > > .</FONT></DIV>
> > > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>It doesn't
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> > which
> > =
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> > > > > right?</FONT></DIV>
> > > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > > > <DIV>
> > > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Yes, it
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> > > > =3D3D
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> > =
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> > > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Start with
> a new
> > SCSI =
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> > > >and a =3D3D
> > > > >single EDS=3D3D20
> > > > > card. Test each MEC. Once you know if there is a
> problem
> > there,
> > =
> > >add
> > > =3D
> > > >a
> > > > =3D3D
> > > > >new SCSI=3D3D20
> > > > > cable and another card. Put different modules in
> the MECs
> > so you
> > =
> > >=3D
> > > >can =3D3D
> > > > >see which=3D3D20
> > > > > one is on card A, B, C at all times. this will give you
> > the info
> > =
> > >=3D
> > > >=3D3D
> > > > >as to=3D3D20
> > > > > how the cards are initializing and which card is
> card A,
> > B, C as
> > =
> > >=3D
> > > >you =3D3D
> > > > >start=3D3D20
> > > > > adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of
> 4 that
> > were =
> > >=3D
> > > >working
> > > > =3D3D
> > > > >
> > > > > perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't
> imagine it =
> > >being
> > > =3D
> > > >a =3D3D
> > > > >problem.=3D3D20
> > > > > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue
> though. Your =
> > >system
> > > =3D
> > > >=3D3D
> > > > >will not=3D3D20
> > > > > function with bad SCSI =3D3D
> > > > >cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> > > >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
> > > >
> > > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0
> Transitional//EN">
> > > ><HTML><HEAD>
> > > ><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type
> content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
> > > >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
> > > ><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400"
> name=3D3DGENERATOR>
> > > ><STYLE></STYLE>
> > > ></HEAD>
> > > ><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Guys,</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm all set with the
> > cables and
> > =
> > >the =3D
> > > >which card is A=3D20
> > > >bit.</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Rod you were right
> about
> > what I
> > =
> > >was=3D20
> > > >asking.</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>In any event I
> scaled down
> > to =
> > >one EDS =3D
> > > >(Pretty sure=3D20
> > > >that's card A right?!!!)</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>and plugged it into
> each
> > of my =
> > >two =3D
> > > >working=3D20
> > > >Mecs. Paris will boot but</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>even internal clock was
> > never =
> > >found nor
> > > =3D
> > > >were the=3D20
> > > >in/outs on each Mec.</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>The 442 on the
> other hand
> > works
> > =
> > >like a
> > > =3D
> > > >champ one=3D20
> > > >card only. I suspect</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>either all my Mecs are
> > screwy =
> > >now or =3D
> > > >the SCSI=3D20
> > > >cables are intermitant at best.</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>It's working fine
> with the
> > 442 =
> > >so I'm =3D
> > > >sticking with=3D20
> > > >that for today.</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'll add my EDS
> cards one
> > by one
> > =
> > >and =3D
> > > >see if that is=3D20
> > > >back to normal.</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks for the help
> and if I =
> > >need scsi
> > > =3D
> > > >cables what=3D20
> > > >and where to buy them would be good info too.</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Mr Testy</FONT></DIV>
> > > ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> > > >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px;
> MARGIN-LEFT:
> > 5px; =
> > >=3D
> > > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > > > <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=3D20
> > > > =3D
> > > =
> >
> >>href=3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A
> <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>
> >
> <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A
> <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>>=
> > >>&g=3D
> > > >t;=3D20
> > > > wrote in message <A=3D20
> > > > =
> >
> >href=3D3D"news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>I
> <news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>I>
> >
> <news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>I
> <news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>I>>
> > > =3D
> > > >think Tom=3D20
> > > > was asking if there was a "3.0" version of the EDS
> card that =3D
> > > >needed<BR>to be=3D20
> > > > connected to the master. The answer to that would be
> no. <BR>Is =
> > >this =3D
> > > >what you=3D20
> > > > were asking Tom?<BR>DJ's advice is very important
> though. I
> > would =
> > >do =3D
> > > >it, if=3D20
> > > > you haven't already.<BR>I don't want to sound like a
> "RTFM"
> > kind of
> > =
> > >=3D
> > > >guy, but=3D20
> > > > the Paris manual describes<BR>this procedure pretty
> > well.<BR>It's =
> > >on =3D
> > > >page 4=3D20
> > > > and 5 of the 3.0 version.<BR>It kind of sounds to me
> like you
> > may =
> > >not
> > > =3D
> > > >be=3D20
> > > > hooking up the correct eds card<BR>to the master =
> > >mec.<BR>Rod<BR>"DJ"=3D20
> > > > <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net>=3D20
> > > > wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> > > >
> href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>
> > <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>>> =
> > >wrote =3D
> > > >in message=3D20
> > > > =3D3D<BR>>news:46972376@linux...<BR>> This is really a =3D
> > > >novice oriented=3D20
> > > > question but . . .<BR>> It doesn't matter which card
> is the =3D
> > > >"A"=3D20
> > > > card<BR>> in your system as far as Paris' ID
> orientation=3D20
> > > > right?<BR>><BR>> Yes, it does, and the orientation of
> the =3D
> > > >slots=3D20
> > > > you are using in =3D3D<BR>>combination with the
> orientation
> > of the
> > =
> > >=3D
> > > >ribbon=3D20
> > > > cables will determine =3D3D<BR>>this. Have you changed
> them
> > around
> > =
> > >=3D
> > > >during your=3D20
> > > > reconfiguration?<BR>><BR>> Start with a new SCSI cable
> and =3D
> > > >a=3D20
> > > > single EDS card. Test each MEC. Once<BR>=3D3D<BR>>you
> know if
> > there
> > =
> > >=3D
> > > >is a=3D20
> > > > problem there, add a new SCSI cable and another
> > =3D3D<BR>>card. Put
> > =
> > >=3D
> > > >different=3D20
> > > > modules in the MECs so you can see which one is on
> > =3D3D<BR>>card =
> > >A, =3D
> > > >B, C at=3D20
> > > > all times. this will give you the info as to how the =
> > >=3D3D<BR>>cards =3D
> > > >are=3D20
> > > > initializing and which card is card A, B, C as you
> start =3D
> > > >=3D3D<BR>>adding more=3D20
> > > > hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were
> working =3D
> > > >=3D3D<BR>>perfectly=3D20
> > > > when I took my system off line. I can't imagine it
> being a =3D
> > > >=3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D20
> > > > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue
> though. Your =3D
> > > >=3D3D<BR>>system=3D20
> > > > will not function with bad SCSI
> cables.<BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE =3D
> > > >HTML=3D20
> > > > PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D20
> > > > Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=3D20
> > > > http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type
> content=3D3D3D"text/html;=3D20
> > > > =3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =3D
> > > >content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20
> > > > 6.00.6000.16414"=3D20
> > > > =3D
> > > >name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=3D
> > > >D><BR>><BODY=3D20
> > > > bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> > > > dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT:
> 0px; =
> > >PADDING-LEFT: =3D
> > > >5px;=3D20
> > > > MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px
> solid; =3D
> > > >MARGIN-RIGHT:=3D20
> > > > 0px"><BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > > > size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> <DIV>"Tom =3D
> > > >Bruhl"=3D20
> > > > <<A=3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > > > =3D
> > > =
> >
> >>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arp=
> > >egi=3D
> > > >o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D20
> > > > wrote =3D3D<BR>>in message=3D3D20<BR>> <A
> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > > > =3D
> > > =
> >
> >>href=3D3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:469=
> > >723=3D
> > > >76@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=3D
> > > >p;=3D20
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>This is
> really a =3D
> > > >novice oriented=3D20
> > > > =3D3D<BR>>question but . .=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > > .</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D
> > > >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > > > size=3D3D3D2>It doesn't matter which card is the =3D
> > > >=3D3D<BR>>"A"=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > > card</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D
> > > >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > > > size=3D3D3D2>in your system as far as Paris' ID=3D20
> > > > =3D3D<BR>>orientation=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > > right?</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D
> > > >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > > > size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D
> > > ><DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, and
> > the =3D
> > > >orientation=3D20
> > > > of<BR>=3D3D<BR>>the slots=3D3D20<BR>> you are using in =3D
> > > >combination with=3D20
> > > > the orientation of the ribbon=3D3D20<BR>> cables will
> > determine =3D
> > > >this.=3D20
> > > > Have you changed them around during
> > =3D3D<BR>>your=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> > > >
> > > > reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D
> > > ><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > > > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Start with a new
> > SCSI =3D
> > > >cable and a=3D20
> > > > =3D3D<BR>>single EDS=3D3D20<BR>> card. Test each MEC. Once
> > you =3D
> > > >know if=3D20
> > > > there is a problem there, add a<BR>=3D3D<BR>>new =3D
> > > >SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> cable=3D20
> > > > and another card. Put different modules in the MECs so you
> > can =3D
> > > >=3D3D<BR>>see=3D20
> > > > which=3D3D20<BR>> one is on card A, B, C at all times.
> this =3D
> > > >will give you=3D20
> > > > the info =3D3D<BR>>as to=3D3D20<BR>> how the cards are =3D
> > > >initializing and=3D20
> > > > which card is card A, B, C as you
> =3D3D<BR>>start=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> > > >adding more=3D20
> > > > hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were=3D20
> > > > working<BR>=3D3D<BR>><BR>> perfectly when I took my
> system =3D
> > > >off line. I=3D20
> > > > can't imagine it being a
> =3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D20<BR>> Bent =3D
> > > >pins on SCSI=3D20
> > > > cables can be a serious issue though. Your system =
> > >=3D3D<BR>>will=3D20
> > > > not=3D3D20<BR>> function with bad SCSI=3D20
> > > > =3D
> > > >=3D3D<BR>>cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>=3D
> > > >;</BODY></HTML><BR>><BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
> > > ><DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam
> to fight =
> > >spam, =3D
> > > >and=3D20
> > > >you?<BR><A=3D20
> > > =
> >
> >>href=3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re
> <http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re>
> >
> <http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re
> <http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re>>=
> > >fer=3D
> > > >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> > ><HTML><HEAD>
> > ><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
> > >charset=3Diso-8859-1">
> > ><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR>
> > ><STYLE></STYLE>
> > ></HEAD>
> > ><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hey Rod,</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hiding the default project
> didn't
> > help=20
> > >anything. I've never</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>had 2.?? installed on this
> comp
> > so I =
> > >think I'm safe=20
> > >there regarding</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>drivers.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am only able to
> intermitantly
> > get the
> > =
> > >442 working=20
> > >as the master.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think that's do to the
> scsi cable =
> > >issue. I=20
> > >need four new ones.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am unable to get more
> than one
> > EDS =
> > >card working=20
> > >WITH the 442.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Not sure why. The ribbons
> are all =
> > >wired=20
> > >correctly.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm off to a hellish gigging =
> > >weekend. No more=20
> > >time for hell in Paris.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for all your
> > input,</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> > ><BLOCKQUOTE=20
> > >style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px;
> MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
> > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > > <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
> > > =
> >
> >href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g
> <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g>
> >
> <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g
> <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g>>=
> > >t;=20
> > > wrote in message <A=20
> > >
> >
> href=3D"news:4697ab8a@linux">news:4697ab8a@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Did
> <news:4697ab8a@linux">news:4697ab8a@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Did>
> > <news:4697ab8a@linux">news:4697ab8a@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Did
> <news:4697ab8a@linux">news:4697ab8a@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Did>> =
> > >you try=20
> > > hiding the default ppj to see if it would boot up with a
> MEC =
> > >when<BR>creating=20
> > > a new session? <BR>Rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> > >
> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20>
> > <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20>>
> > > wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Guys,<BR>>I'm all set with the cables =
> > >and the=20
> > > which card is A bit.<BR>>Rod you were right about what I
> was=20
> > > asking.<BR>><BR>>In any event I scaled down to one EDS
> (Pretty =
> > >sure=20
> > > that's card A =3D<BR>>right?!!!)<BR>>and plugged it into
> each of =
> > >my two=20
> > > working Mecs. Paris will boot but<BR>>even internal clock
> was =
> > >never=20
> > > found nor were the in/outs on each Mec.<BR>>The 442 on
> the other =
> > >hand works=20
> > > like a champ one card only. I suspect<BR>>either all my
> Mecs =
> > >are=20
> > > screwy now or the SCSI cables are intermitant =
> > >at<BR>=3D<BR>>best.<BR>>It's=20
> > > working fine with the 442 so I'm sticking with that for =
> > >today.<BR>>I'll add=20
> > > my EDS cards one by one and see if that is back to=20
> > > normal.<BR>><BR>>Thanks for the help and if I need scsi
> cables =
> > >what and=20
> > > where to buy them<BR>=3D<BR>>would be good info
> too.<BR>>Mr=20
> > > Testy<BR>> "Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
> > > =
> >
> >href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g
> <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g>
> >
> <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g
> <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g>>=
> > >t;=20
> > > wrote in message =
> > >=3D<BR>>news:469780ce$1@linux...<BR>><BR>> I=20
> > > think Tom was asking if there was a "3.0" version of the
> EDS card=20
> > > =3D<BR>>that needed<BR>> to be connected to the master. =
> > >The answer=20
> > > to that would be no.=3D20<BR>> Is this what you were
> asking=20
> > > Tom?<BR>> DJ's advice is very important though. I would do =
> > >it, if you=20
> > > haven't =3D<BR>>already.<BR>> I don't want to sound like a =
> > >"RTFM"=20
> > > kind of guy, but the Paris =
> > >manual<BR>=3D<BR>>describes<BR>> this=20
> > > procedure pretty well.<BR>> It's on page 4 and 5 of the
> 3.0=20
> > > version.<BR>> It kind of sounds to me like you may not be =
> > >hooking up=20
> > > the correct eds<BR>=3D<BR>>card<BR>> to the master=20
> > > mec.<BR>> Rod<BR>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ =
> > >dot _=20
> > > net> wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> =20
> > > ><BR>> > "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> > >
> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>
> > <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>>> wrote =
> > >in message=20
> > > =3D3D<BR>> >news:46972376@linux...<BR>> =
> > >> This is=20
> > > really a novice oriented question but . . .<BR>> > =
> > >It=20
> > > doesn't matter which card is the "A" card<BR>> > in =
> > >your=20
> > > system as far as Paris' ID orientation right?<BR>> =
> > >><BR>> =20
> > > > Yes, it does, and the orientation of the slots you are =
> > >using in=20
> > > =3D3D<BR>> >combination with the orientation of the ribbon =
> > >cables=20
> > > will determine<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >this. Have you =
> > >changed them=20
> > > around during your reconfiguration?<BR>> ><BR>> =20
> > > > Start with a new SCSI cable and a single EDS card. Test =
> > >each MEC.=20
> > > =3D<BR>>Once<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> >you know if =
> > >there is a=20
> > > problem there, add a new SCSI cable and =3D<BR>>another =
> > >=3D3D<BR>> =20
> > > >card. Put different modules in the MECs so you can see
> which one =
> > >is=20
> > > =3D<BR>>on =3D3D<BR>> >card A, B, C at all times. this =
> > >will give=20
> > > you the info as to how the<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >cards =
> > >are=20
> > > initializing and which card is card A, B, C as you start=20
> > > =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >adding more hardware. the MEC i =
> > >sent you is one=20
> > > of 4 that were =3D<BR>>working =3D3D<BR>> >perfectly =
> > >when I took my=20
> > > system off line. I can't imagine it being =
> > >a<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =20
> > > >problem. Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue
> though.=20
> > > Your<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >system will not function =
> > >with bad SCSI=20
> > > cables.<BR>> ><BR>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC=20
> > > "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"><BR>> =20
> > > ><HTML><HEAD><BR>> ><META=20
> > > http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html; =
> > >=3D3D<BR>> =20
> > > >charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>> ><META =
> > >content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=20
> > > 6.00.6000.16414" name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>> =20
> > > ><STYLE></STYLE><BR>> =
> > >></HEAD><BR>> =20
> > > ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>> =
> > >><BLOCKQUOTE=20
> > > dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20<BR>> >style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =
> > >0px;=20
> > > PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =20
> > > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
> > >0px"><BR>> =20
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
> > >size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
> > > </DIV><BR>> > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl"=20
> > > <<A=3D3D20<BR>> > href=3D3D3D"<A=20
> > > =
> >
> >href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
> > >o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=20
> > > =3D<BR>>wrote =3D3D<BR>> >in =
> > >message=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
> > > <A href=3D3D3D"<A=20
> > > =
> >
> >href=3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:469723=
> > >76@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=
> > >p;=20
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>This =
> > >is really a=20
> > > novice =3D<BR>>oriented =3D3D<BR>> >question but .=20
> > > .=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> > >.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =20
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>It =
> > >doesn't matter=20
> > > which card =3D<BR>>is the =3D3D<BR>> =
> > >>"A"=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > > > card</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>in your system as =
> > >far as=20
> > > =3D<BR>>Paris' ID =3D3D<BR>> =
> > >>orientation=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > > > right?</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
> > > </DIV><BR>> > <DIV><BR>> =
> > >> =20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, and =
> > >the=20
> > > =3D<BR>>orientation of<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> >the=20
> > > slots=3D3D20<BR>> > you are using in combination =
> > >with the=20
> > > orientation of the =3D<BR>>ribbon=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> > >cables will=20
> > > determine this. Have you changed them around during =
> > >=3D3D<BR>> =20
> > > >your=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
> > > reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
> > > </DIV><BR>> > <DIV><FONT =
> > >face=3D3D3DArial=20
> > > size=3D3D3D2>Start with a new SCSI cable =3D<BR>>and a =
> > >=3D3D<BR>> =20
> > > >single EDS=3D3D20<BR>> > card. Test each MEC. =
> > >Once you=20
> > > know if there is a problem there, add<BR>=3D<BR>>a<BR>> =20
> > > =3D3D<BR>> >new SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> > cable =
> > >and another=20
> > > card. Put different modules in the MECs so you =3D<BR>>can =
> > >=3D3D<BR>> =20
> > > >see which=3D3D20<BR>> > one is on card A, B, C =
> > >at all=20
> > > times. this will give you the info =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> =
> > >>as=20
> > > to=3D3D20<BR>> > how the cards are initializing and =
> > >which card=20
> > > is card A, B, C as =3D<BR>>you =3D3D<BR>> =
> > >>start=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > > > adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that =
> > >were=20
> > > =3D<BR>>working<BR>> =3D3D<BR>> =
> > >><BR>> > =20
> > > perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't imagine
> it=20
> > > being<BR>=3D<BR>>a =3D3D<BR>> =
> > >>problem.=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > > > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue though. =
> > >Your=20
> > > system<BR>=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >will =
> > >not=3D3D20<BR>> =20
> > > > function with bad SCSI =3D3D<BR>> =20
> > > =
> > >>cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></B=
> > >ODY></HTML><BR>> =20
> > > ><BR>> ><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>I choose =
> > >Polesoft=20
> > > Lockspam to fight spam, and=20
> > > you?<BR>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
> > > <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
> > > Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=20
> > > http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
> > > =3D<BR>>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
> > >content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
> > > 6.00.2800.1400"=20
> > > =
> > >name=3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=
> > >D><BR>><BODY=20
> > > bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
> > > =
> > >size=3D3D2>Guys,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> > > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm all set with the cables and
> the =
> > >=3D<BR>>which=20
> > > card is =
> > >A=3D20<BR>>bit.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> > > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Rod you were right about what I=20
> > > =
> > >was=3D20<BR>>asking.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FO=
> > >NT=20
> > > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> =
> > ></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> > > face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>In any event I scaled down to
> one EDS=20
> > > =3D<BR>>(Pretty sure=3D20<BR>>that's card A=20
> > > right?!!!)</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> > >face=3D3DArial=20
> > > size=3D3D2>and plugged it into each of my two=20
> > > =3D<BR>>working=3D20<BR>>Mecs. Paris will boot=20
> > > but</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
> > >
> > > size=3D3D2>even internal clock was never found =
> > >nor<BR>=3D<BR>>were=20
> > > the=3D20<BR>>in/outs on each=20
> > > Mec.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> > >face=3D3DArial=20
> > > size=3D3D2>The 442 on the other hand works like =
> > >a<BR>=3D<BR>>champ=20
> > > one=3D20<BR>>card only. I=20
> > > suspect</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> > >face=3D3DArial=20
> > > size=3D3D2>either all my Mecs are screwy now or
> =3D<BR>>the=20
> > > SCSI=3D20<BR>>cables are intermitant at=20
> > > best.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> > >face=3D3DArial=20
> > > size=3D3D2>It's working fine with the 442 so I'm =
> > >=3D<BR>>sticking=20
> > > with=3D20<BR>>that for=20
> > > today.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> > >face=3D3DArial=20
> > > size=3D3D2>I'll add my EDS cards one by one and
> =3D<BR>>see if =
> > >that=20
> > > is=3D20<BR>>back to=20
> > > normal.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> > >face=3D3DArial=20
> > > size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> > >face=3D3DArial=20
> > > size=3D3D2>Thanks for the help and if I need =
> > >scsi<BR>=3D<BR>>cables=20
> > > what=3D20<BR>>and where to buy them would be good info=20
> > > too.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
> > >face=3D3DArial=20
> > > size=3D3D2>Mr=20
> > > =
> > >Testy</FONT></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR>>style=3D=
> > >3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=20
> > > 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
> =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: =
> > >#000000 2px=20
> > > solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Rod Lincoln"=20
> > > <<A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
> > > =
> >
> >href=3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&a=
> >
> >mp;g'>mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</=
> > >A>&g</A>=3D<BR>>t;=3D20<BR>> =20
> > > wrote in message <A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
> > > =
> >
> >href=3D'news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>I'>n=
> > >ews:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV>&l=
> > >t;BR>I</A><BR>=3D<BR>>think=20
> > > Tom=3D20<BR>> was asking if there was a "3.0" version of
> the =
> > >EDS card=20
> > > that =3D<BR>>needed<BR>to be=3D20<BR>> connected to =
> > >the master.=20
> > > The answer to that would be no. <BR>Is this =3D<BR>>what=20
> > > you=3D20<BR>> were asking Tom?<BR>DJ's advice is very =
> > >important=20
> > > though. I would do =3D<BR>>it, if=3D20<BR>> you haven't=20
> > > already.<BR>I don't want to sound like a "RTFM" kind of =
> > >=3D<BR>>guy,=20
> > > but=3D20<BR>> the Paris manual describes<BR>this =
> > >procedure pretty=20
> > > well.<BR>It's on =3D<BR>>page 4=3D20<BR>> and 5 of =
> > >the 3.0=20
> > > version.<BR>It kind of sounds to me like you may=20
> > > not<BR>=3D<BR>>be=3D20<BR>> hooking up the correct eds=20
> > > card<BR>to the master =
> > >mec.<BR>Rod<BR>"DJ"=3D20<BR>> =20
> > > <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net>=3D20<BR>> =20
> > > wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> "Tom =
> > >Bruhl"=20
> > > <<A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
> > > =
> >
> >href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
> > >o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=20
> > > wrote =3D<BR>>in message=3D20<BR>> =20
> > > =3D3D<BR>>news:46972376@linux...<BR>> This is really =
> > >a=20
> > > =3D<BR>>novice oriented=3D20<BR>> question but . . =
> > >.<BR>> It=20
> > > doesn't matter which card is the =3D<BR>>"A"=3D20<BR>> =20
> > > card<BR>> in your system as far as Paris' ID=20
> > > orientation=3D20<BR>> right?<BR>><BR>> Yes, =
> > >it does,=20
> > > and the orientation of the =3D<BR>>slots=3D20<BR>> you are =
> > >using in=20
> > > =3D3D<BR>>combination with the orientation of the=20
> > > =3D<BR>>ribbon=3D20<BR>> cables will determine =
> > >=3D3D<BR>>this.=20
> > > Have you changed them around =3D<BR>>during your=3D20<BR>> =
> > >
> > > reconfiguration?<BR>><BR>> Start with a new SCSI =
> > >cable and=20
> > > =3D<BR>>a=3D20<BR>> single EDS card. Test each MEC.=20
> > > Once<BR>=3D3D<BR>>you know if there =3D<BR>>is=20
> > > a=3D20<BR>> problem there, add a new SCSI cable and
> another=20
> > > =3D3D<BR>>card. Put =3D<BR>>different=3D20<BR>> =
> > >modules in the=20
> > > MECs so you can see which one is on =3D3D<BR>>card A, =
> > >=3D<BR>>B, C=20
> > > at=3D20<BR>> all times. this will give you the info as to
> how =
> > >the=20
> > > =3D3D<BR>>cards =3D<BR>>are=3D20<BR>> =
> > >initializing and which=20
> > > card is card A, B, C as you start =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>adding =
> > >
> > > more=3D20<BR>> hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4
> that =
> > >were=20
> > > working =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>perfectly=3D20<BR>> =
> > >when I took my=20
> > > system off line. I can't imagine it being a=20
> > > =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D20<BR>> Bent pins on =
> > >SCSI cables=20
> > > can be a serious issue though. Your=20
> > > =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>system=3D20<BR>> will not =
> > >function with bad=20
> > > SCSI cables.<BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE=20
> > > =3D<BR>>HTML=3D20<BR>> PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML =
> > >4.0=3D20<BR>> =20
> > > =
> > >Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>>=
> > ><META=3D20<BR>> =20
> > > http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type =
> > >content=3D3D3D"text/html;=3D20<BR>> =20
> > > =3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
> > >
> > > =3D<BR>>content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20<BR>> =20
> > > 6.00.6000.16414"=3D20<BR>> =20
> > > =
> > >=3D<BR>>name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE&=
> > >gt;<BR>></HEA=3D<BR>>D><BR>><BODY=3D20<BR>&=
> > >gt; =20
> > > =
> > >bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR>> =
> > >
> > > dir=3D3D3Dltr=3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; =
> > >PADDING-LEFT:=20
> > > =3D<BR>>5px;=3D20<BR>> MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
> > >=3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT:=20
> > > #000000 2px solid; =3D<BR>>MARGIN-RIGHT:=3D20<BR>> =20
> > > 0px"><BR>> <DIV><FONT =
> > >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
> > > size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =
> > ><DIV>"Tom=20
> > > =3D<BR>>Bruhl"=3D20<BR>> <<A=3D3D20<BR>>=20
> > > href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20<BR>> =20
> > > =
> >
> >=3D<BR>>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net&l=
> > >t;/A'>mailto:arpegi=3D<BR>>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net<=
> > >;/A</A>>>=3D20<BR>> =20
> > > wrote =3D3D<BR>>in message=3D3D20<BR>> <A=20
> > > href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20<BR>> =20
> > > =
> > >=3D<BR>>href=3D3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>=
> > >;...</DIV'>news:469723=3D<BR>>76@linux">news:46972376@linux&l=
> > >t;/A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=3D<BR>>p;=3D20=
> > ><BR>> =20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>This is really a=20
> > > =3D<BR>>novice oriented=3D20<BR>> =
> > >=3D3D<BR>>question but .=20
> > > .=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20<BR>> =20
> > > .</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=20
> > > =3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>It =
> > >doesn't matter which=20
> > > card is the =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>"A"=3D3D20<BR>> =
> > >=3D20<BR>> =20
> > > card</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=20
> > > =3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D2>in your =
> > >system as far=20
> > > as Paris' ID=3D20<BR>> =
> > >=3D3D<BR>>orientation=3D3D20<BR>>=20
> > > =3D20<BR>> right?</FONT></DIV><BR>>=20
> > > <DIV><FONT =3D<BR>>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =20
> > > size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>>=20
> > > =3D<BR>><DIV><BR>> =3D20<BR>> =
> > ><DIV><FONT=20
> > > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, and the=20
> > > =3D<BR>>orientation=3D20<BR>> =
> > >of<BR>=3D3D<BR>>the=20
> > > slots=3D3D20<BR>> you are using in =3D<BR>>combination=20
> > > with=3D20<BR>> the orientation of the =
> > >ribbon=3D3D20<BR>> cables=20
> > > will determine =3D<BR>>this.=3D20<BR>> Have you changed =
> > >them around=20
> > > during =3D3D<BR>>your=3D3D20<BR>> =
> > >=3D<BR>><BR>> =20
> > > reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR>>=20
> > > =3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3DArial=20
> > > size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =
> > >=3D20<BR>> =20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Start with a new =
> > >SCSI=20
> > > =3D<BR>>cable and a=3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>single=20
> > > EDS=3D3D20<BR>> card. Test each MEC. Once you =3D<BR>>know =
> > >
> > > if=3D20<BR>> there is a problem there, add=20
> > > a<BR>=3D3D<BR>>new =3D<BR>>SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> =
> > >
> > > cable=3D20<BR>> and another card. Put different modules in =
> > >the MECs so=20
> > > you can =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>see=3D20<BR>> =20
> > > which=3D3D20<BR>> one is on card A, B, C at all times.
> this=20
> > > =3D<BR>>will give you=3D20<BR>> the info =
> > >=3D3D<BR>>as=20
> > > to=3D3D20<BR>> how the cards are =3D<BR>>initializing=20
> > > and=3D20<BR>> which card is card A, B, C as you=20
> > > =3D3D<BR>>start=3D3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>adding=20
> > > more=3D20<BR>> hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4
> that=20
> > > were=3D20<BR>> =
> > >working<BR>=3D3D<BR>><BR>>=20
> > > perfectly when I took my system =3D<BR>>off line. =
> > >I=3D20<BR>> can't=20
> > > imagine it being a =3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D20<BR>> =
> > >Bent=20
> > > =3D<BR>>pins on SCSI=3D20<BR>> cables can be a serious =
> > >issue though.=20
> > > Your system =3D3D<BR>>will=3D20<BR>> =
> > >not=3D3D20<BR>>=20
> > > function with bad SCSI=3D20<BR>> =20
> > > =
> > >=3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>>cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV>=
> > >;</BLOCKQUOTE>=3D<BR>>;</BODY></HTML><BR>>&=
> > >lt;BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>><DIV><FONT=20
> > > size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
> > >spam,=20
> > > =
> > >=3D<BR>>and=3D20<BR>>you?<BR><A=3D20<BR>>href=3D3D" <A=20
> > > =
> >
> >href=3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
> >
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| Re: Paris hardware troubles won't stop. HELP!!! [message #88152 is a reply to message #88146] |
Sun, 15 July 2007 20:43 |
Aaron Allen
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This might be flogging the rented and dead mule, but you did verify that =
dual core was off in this equation, and hadn't been flipped back on by a =
gremlin?
AA
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:469ad5e8@linux...
Ya Jeff,
At least half the times no C-16 was attached.
Do you think that a bad C-16 cable could cause these issues?
I'll remove them from the setup until all is well.
I know at least a few times it worked that the C-16 did also.
Tom=20
"Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message =
news:4699b378@linux...
Tom,
Stupid question, but did you ever start up without any c16's? If so =
did=20
you see the same issue?
Jeff
Bruhl wrote:
> Rod,
> I am working from a clone that was totally good with two
> fully loaded Mecs. I have to assume the drivers are good.
> I'm looking for a good vendor for SCSI cables now.
> They're called SCSI 2 right?
> http://www.m2cables.com/SCSI2toSCSI2CablesHDB50MtoML6.html
> =20
> I'm thinking of cleaning the female jacks on the mec and EDS to be
> sure all is well. Any sprays anyone suggests? I've got Deoxit.
> Good?
> Tom
>=20
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com
> <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com>> wrote in message
> news:4697f7e2$1@linux...
>=20
> Tom, sounds like it probably is a scsi issue. Your running xp =
right?
> The new
> Scherzo drivers are for xp verses 98 not for 3.0 verses 2.x
> Come to think of it. you probably whoudn't have had any old =
drivers
> on your
> xp sys drive anyway...never mind.
> Rod
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>> =
wrote:
> >
> >
> >Hey Rod,
> >Hiding the default project didn't help anything. I've never
> >had 2.?? installed on this comp so I think I'm safe there =
regarding
> >drivers.
> >
> >I am only able to intermitantly get the 442 working as the =
master.
> >I think that's do to the scsi cable issue. I need four new =
ones.
> >I am unable to get more than one EDS card working WITH the =
442.
> >Not sure why. The ribbons are all wired correctly.
> >
> >I'm off to a hellish gigging weekend. No more time for hell =
in Paris.
> >Thanks for all your input,
> >Tom
> > "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com
> <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com>> wrote in message =3D
> >news:4697ab8a@linux...
> >
> > Did you try hiding the default ppj to see if it would boot =
up
> with a =3D
> >MEC when
> > creating a new session?=3D20
> > Rod
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net =
<mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >Guys,
> > >I'm all set with the cables and the which card is A bit.
> > >Rod you were right about what I was asking.
> > >
> > >In any event I scaled down to one EDS (Pretty sure that's =
card
> A =3D3D
> > >right?!!!)
> > >and plugged it into each of my two working Mecs. Paris =
will
> boot but
> > >even internal clock was never found nor were the in/outs =
on
> each Mec.
> > >The 442 on the other hand works like a champ one card =
only. I =3D
> >suspect
> > >either all my Mecs are screwy now or the SCSI cables are
> intermitant
> =3D
> >at
> > =3D3D
> > >best.
> > >It's working fine with the 442 so I'm sticking with that =
for today.
> > >I'll add my EDS cards one by one and see if that is back =
to normal.
> > >
> > >Thanks for the help and if I need scsi cables what and =
where to
> buy =3D
> >them
> > =3D3D
> > >would be good info too.
> > >Mr Testy
> > > "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com
> <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com>> wrote in message =3D3D
> > >news:469780ce$1@linux...
> > >
> > > I think Tom was asking if there was a "3.0" version of =
the
> EDS card
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >that needed
> > > to be connected to the master. The answer to that would =
be
> no.=3D3D20
> > > Is this what you were asking Tom?
> > > DJ's advice is very important though. I would do it, if =
you
> haven't
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >already.
> > > I don't want to sound like a "RTFM" kind of guy, but =
the Paris =3D
> >manual
> > =3D3D
> > >describes
> > > this procedure pretty well.
> > > It's on page 4 and 5 of the 3.0 version.
> > > It kind of sounds to me like you may not be hooking up =
the
> correct
> =3D
> >eds
> > =3D3D
> > >card
> > > to the master mec.
> > > Rod
> > > "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>> wrote in message =3D3D3D
> > > >news:46972376@linux...
> > > > This is really a novice oriented question but . . .
> > > > It doesn't matter which card is the "A" card
> > > > in your system as far as Paris' ID orientation =
right?
> > > >
> > > > Yes, it does, and the orientation of the slots you =
are
> using in
> =3D
> >=3D3D3D
> > > >combination with the orientation of the ribbon cables =
will =3D
> >determine
> > =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >this. Have you changed them around during your =
reconfiguration?
> > > >
> > > > Start with a new SCSI cable and a single EDS card. =
Test each =3D
> >MEC. =3D3D
> > >Once
> > > =3D3D3D
> > > >you know if there is a problem there, add a new SCSI =
cable
> and =3D3D
> > >another =3D3D3D
> > > >card. Put different modules in the MECs so you can see =
which
> one =3D
> >is =3D3D
> > >on =3D3D3D
> > > >card A, B, C at all times. this will give you the info =
as to
> how =3D
> >the
> > =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >cards are initializing and which card is card A, B, C =
as you
> start
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 =
that
> were =3D3D
> > >working =3D3D3D
> > > >perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't =
imagine it
> being
> =3D
> >a
> > =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >problem. Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious =
issue
> though. =3D
> >Your
> > =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >system will not function with bad SCSI cables.
> > > >
> > > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 =
Transitional//EN">
> > > ><HTML><HEAD>
> > > ><META http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type =
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> MARGIN-LEFT: =3D
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> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV>
> > > > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D3D20
> > > >=20
> =
href=3D3D3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>>
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >wrote =3D3D3D
> > > >in message=3D3D3D20
> > > > <A =3D
> =
>href=3D3D3D3D"news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV
> <news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV>>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>This is =
really a
> novice
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >oriented =3D3D3D
> > > >question but . .=3D3D3D20
> > > > .</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>It =
doesn't matter
> which
> =3D
> >card =3D3D
> > >is the =3D3D3D
> > > >"A"=3D3D3D20
> > > > card</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>in your =
system as
> far =3D
> >as =3D3D
> > >Paris' ID =3D3D3D
> > > >orientation=3D3D3D20
> > > > right?</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV>
> > > > <DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Yes, it =
does, and
> the =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >orientation of
> > > =3D3D3D
> > > >the slots=3D3D3D20
> > > > you are using in combination with the orientation of =
the =3D3D
> > >ribbon=3D3D3D20
> > > > cables will determine this. Have you changed them =
around
> during
> =3D
> >=3D3D3D
> > > >your=3D3D3D20
> > > > reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Start =
with a new
> SCSI =3D
> >cable =3D3D
> > >and a =3D3D3D
> > > >single EDS=3D3D3D20
> > > > card. Test each MEC. Once you know if there is a =
problem
> there,
> =3D
> >add
> > =3D3D
> > >a
> > > =3D3D3D
> > > >new SCSI=3D3D3D20
> > > > cable and another card. Put different modules in the =
MECs
> so you
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >can =3D3D3D
> > > >see which=3D3D3D20
> > > > one is on card A, B, C at all times. this will give =
you
> the info
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >as to=3D3D3D20
> > > > how the cards are initializing and which card is =
card A,
> B, C as
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >you =3D3D3D
> > > >start=3D3D3D20
> > > > adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 =
that
> were =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >working
> > > =3D3D3D
> > > >
> > > > perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't =
imagine it =3D
> >being
> > =3D3D
> > >a =3D3D3D
> > > >problem.=3D3D3D20
> > > > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue =
though. Your =3D
> >system
> > =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >will not=3D3D3D20
> > > > function with bad SCSI =3D3D3D
> > > >cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> > >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =3D20
> > >
> > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 =
Transitional//EN">
> > ><HTML><HEAD>
> > ><META http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type =
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> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>Guys,</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'm all set with =
the
> cables and
> =3D
> >the =3D3D
> > >which card is A=3D3D20
> > >bit.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Rod you were =
right about
> what I
> =3D
> >was=3D3D20
> > >asking.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>In any event I =
scaled down
> to =3D
> >one EDS =3D3D
> > >(Pretty sure=3D3D20
> > >that's card A right?!!!)</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>and plugged it =
into each
> of my =3D
> >two =3D3D
> > >working=3D3D20
> > >Mecs. Paris will boot but</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>even internal =
clock was
> never =3D
> >found nor
> > =3D3D
> > >were the=3D3D20
> > >in/outs on each Mec.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>The 442 on the =
other hand
> works
> =3D
> >like a
> > =3D3D
> > >champ one=3D3D20
> > >card only. I suspect</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>either all my =
Mecs are
> screwy =3D
> >now or =3D3D
> > >the SCSI=3D3D20
> > >cables are intermitant at best.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>It's working =
fine with the
> 442 =3D
> >so I'm =3D3D
> > >sticking with=3D3D20
> > >that for today.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'll add my EDS =
cards one
> by one
> =3D
> >and =3D3D
> > >see if that is=3D3D20
> > >back to normal.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Thanks for the =
help and if I =3D
> >need scsi
> > =3D3D
> > >cables what=3D3D20
> > >and where to buy them would be good info =
too.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Mr =
Testy</FONT></DIV>
> > ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20
> > >style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; =
MARGIN-LEFT:
> 5px; =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > > <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com=
</A
> =
<mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>=3D
> >>&g=3D3D
> > >t;=3D3D20
> > > wrote in message <A=3D3D20
> > > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D3D"news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR=
>I
> =
<news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>I>
> > =3D3D
> > >think Tom=3D3D20
> > > was asking if there was a "3.0" version of the EDS card =
that =3D3D
> > >needed<BR>to be=3D3D20
> > > connected to the master. The answer to that would be =
no. <BR>Is =3D
> >this =3D3D
> > >what you=3D3D20
> > > were asking Tom?<BR>DJ's advice is very important =
though. I
> would =3D
> >do =3D3D
> > >it, if=3D3D20
> > > you haven't already.<BR>I don't want to sound like a =
"RTFM"
> kind of
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >guy, but=3D3D20
> > > the Paris manual describes<BR>this procedure pretty
> well.<BR>It's =3D
> >on =3D3D
> > >page 4=3D3D20
> > > and 5 of the 3.0 version.<BR>It kind of sounds to me =
like you
> may =3D
> >not
> > =3D3D
> > >be=3D3D20
> > > hooking up the correct eds card<BR>to the master =3D
> >mec.<BR>Rod<BR>"DJ"=3D3D20
> > > <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net>=3D3D20
> > > wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D20
> > > =
href=3D3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>> =3D
> >wrote =3D3D
> > >in message=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D<BR>>news:46972376@linux...<BR>> This is really =
a =3D3D
> > >novice oriented=3D3D20
> > > question but . . .<BR>> It doesn't matter which card is =
the =3D3D
> > >"A"=3D3D20
> > > card<BR>> in your system as far as Paris' ID =
orientation=3D3D20
> > > right?<BR>><BR>> Yes, it does, and the orientation of =
the =3D3D
> > >slots=3D3D20
> > > you are using in =3D3D3D<BR>>combination with the =
orientation
> of the
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >ribbon=3D3D20
> > > cables will determine =3D3D3D<BR>>this. Have you =
changed them
> around
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >during your=3D3D20
> > > reconfiguration?<BR>><BR>> Start with a new SCSI cable =
and =3D3D
> > >a=3D3D20
> > > single EDS card. Test each MEC. Once<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>you =
know if
> there
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >is a=3D3D20
> > > problem there, add a new SCSI cable and another
> =3D3D3D<BR>>card. Put
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >different=3D3D20
> > > modules in the MECs so you can see which one is on
> =3D3D3D<BR>>card =3D
> >A, =3D3D
> > >B, C at=3D3D20
> > > all times. this will give you the info as to how the =
=3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>cards =3D3D
> > >are=3D3D20
> > > initializing and which card is card A, B, C as you =
start =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D<BR>>adding more=3D3D20
> > > hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were =
working =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D<BR>>perfectly=3D3D20
> > > when I took my system off line. I can't imagine it =
being a =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D20
> > > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue though. =
Your =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D<BR>>system=3D3D20
> > > will not function with bad SCSI =
cables.<BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE =3D3D
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> > > size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> <DIV>"Tom =3D3D
> > >Bruhl"=3D3D20
> > > <<A=3D3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:=
arp=3D
> >egi=3D3D
> > >o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D3D20
> > > wrote =3D3D3D<BR>>in message=3D3D3D20<BR>> <A =
href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:=
469=3D
> >723=3D3D
> > =
>76@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=3D3D
> > >p;=3D3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>This is =
really a =3D3D
> > >novice oriented=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D<BR>>question but . .=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> > > .</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D3D
> > >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D3D2>It doesn't matter which card is the =
=3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D<BR>>"A"=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> > > card</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D3D
> > >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D3D2>in your system as far as Paris' =
ID=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D<BR>>orientation=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> > > right?</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D3D
> > >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> > ><DIV><BR>> =3D3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Yes, it =
does, and
> the =3D3D
> > >orientation=3D3D20
> > > of<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>the slots=3D3D3D20<BR>> you are using =
in =3D3D
> > >combination with=3D3D20
> > > the orientation of the ribbon=3D3D3D20<BR>> cables will
> determine =3D3D
> > >this.=3D3D20
> > > Have you changed them around during
> =3D3D3D<BR>>your=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
> > >
> > > reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> > ><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> > > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =
=3D3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Start with =
a new
> SCSI =3D3D
> > >cable and a=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D<BR>>single EDS=3D3D3D20<BR>> card. Test each =
MEC. Once
> you =3D3D
> > >know if=3D3D20
> > > there is a problem there, add a<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>new =
=3D3D
> > >SCSI=3D3D3D20<BR>> cable=3D3D20
> > > and another card. Put different modules in the MECs so =
you
> can =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D<BR>>see=3D3D20
> > > which=3D3D3D20<BR>> one is on card A, B, C at all =
times. this =3D3D
> > >will give you=3D3D20
> > > the info =3D3D3D<BR>>as to=3D3D3D20<BR>> how the cards =
are =3D3D
> > >initializing and=3D3D20
> > > which card is card A, B, C as you =
=3D3D3D<BR>>start=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
> > >adding more=3D3D20
> > > hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that =
were=3D3D20
> > > working<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>><BR>> perfectly when I took my =
system =3D3D
> > >off line. I=3D3D20
> > > can't imagine it being a =
=3D3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D3D20<BR>> Bent =3D3D
> > >pins on SCSI=3D3D20
> > > cables can be a serious issue though. Your system =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>will=3D3D20
> > > not=3D3D3D20<BR>> function with bad SCSI=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D<BR>>cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>=3D3D
> > >;</BODY></HTML><BR>><BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
> > ><DIV><FONT size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft =
Lockspam to fight =3D
> >spam, =3D3D
> > >and=3D3D20
> > >you?<BR><A=3D3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com=
/re
> =
<http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re>=3D
> >fer=3D3D
> > >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 =
Transitional//EN">
> ><HTML><HEAD>
> ><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =
=3D
> >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
> ><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" =
name=3D3DGENERATOR>
> ><STYLE></STYLE>
> ></HEAD>
> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hey Rod,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hiding the default =
project didn't
> help=3D20
> >anything. I've never</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>had 2.?? installed on =
this comp
> so I =3D
> >think I'm safe=3D20
> >there regarding</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>drivers.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am only able to =
intermitantly
> get the
> =3D
> >442 working=3D20
> >as the master.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I think that's do to =
the scsi cable =3D
> >issue. I=3D20
> >need four new ones.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am unable to get more =
than one
> EDS =3D
> >card working=3D20
> >WITH the 442.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Not sure why. The =
ribbons are all =3D
> >wired=3D20
> >correctly.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm off to a hellish =
gigging =3D
> >weekend. No more=3D20
> >time for hell in Paris.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks for all your
> input,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; =
MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A=
>&g
> =
<mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g>=3D
> >t;=3D20
> > wrote in message <A=3D20
> >=20
> =
href=3D3D"news:4697ab8a@linux">news:4697ab8a@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Did
> <news:4697ab8a@linux">news:4697ab8a@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Did> =
=3D
> >you try=3D20
> > hiding the default ppj to see if it would boot up with a =
MEC =3D
> >when<BR>creating=3D20
> > a new session? <BR>Rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> > =
href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20>
> > wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Guys,<BR>>I'm all set with the cables =
=3D
> >and the=3D20
> > which card is A bit.<BR>>Rod you were right about what I =
was=3D20
> > asking.<BR>><BR>>In any event I scaled down to one EDS =
(Pretty =3D
> >sure=3D20
> > that's card A =3D3D<BR>>right?!!!)<BR>>and plugged it into =
each of =3D
> >my two=3D20
> > working Mecs. Paris will boot but<BR>>even internal clock =
was =3D
> >never=3D20
> > found nor were the in/outs on each Mec.<BR>>The 442 on the =
other =3D
> >hand works=3D20
> > like a champ one card only. I suspect<BR>>either all my =
Mecs =3D
> >are=3D20
> > screwy now or the SCSI cables are intermitant =3D
> >at<BR>=3D3D<BR>>best.<BR>>It's=3D20
> > working fine with the 442 so I'm sticking with that for =
=3D
> >today.<BR>>I'll add=3D20
> > my EDS cards one by one and see if that is back to=3D20
> > normal.<BR>><BR>>Thanks for the help and if I need scsi =
cables =3D
> >what and=3D20
> > where to buy them<BR>=3D3D<BR>>would be good info =
too.<BR>>Mr=3D20
> > Testy<BR>> "Rod Lincoln" <<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A=
>&g
> =
<mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g>=3D
> >t;=3D20
> > wrote in message =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>news:469780ce$1@linux...<BR>><BR>> I=3D20
> > think Tom was asking if there was a "3.0" version of the =
EDS card=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>that needed<BR>> to be connected to the master. =
=3D
> >The answer=3D20
> > to that would be no.=3D3D20<BR>> Is this what you were =
asking=3D20
> > Tom?<BR>> DJ's advice is very important though. I would do =
=3D
> >it, if you=3D20
> > haven't =3D3D<BR>>already.<BR>> I don't want to sound like =
a =3D
> >"RTFM"=3D20
> > kind of guy, but the Paris =3D
> >manual<BR>=3D3D<BR>>describes<BR>> this=3D20
> > procedure pretty well.<BR>> It's on page 4 and 5 of the =
3.0=3D20
> > version.<BR>> It kind of sounds to me like you may not be =
=3D
> >hooking up=3D20
> > the correct eds<BR>=3D3D<BR>>card<BR>> to the master=3D20
> > mec.<BR>> Rod<BR>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ =3D
> >dot _=3D20
> > net> wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> =3D20
> > ><BR>> > "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> > =
href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>> wrote =
=3D
> >in message=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>> >news:46972376@linux...<BR>> =3D
> >> This is=3D20
> > really a novice oriented question but . . .<BR>> > =3D
> >It=3D20
> > doesn't matter which card is the "A" card<BR>> > in =3D
> >your=3D20
> > system as far as Paris' ID orientation right?<BR>> =3D
> >><BR>> =3D20
> > > Yes, it does, and the orientation of the slots you are =
=3D
> >using in=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>> >combination with the orientation of the =
ribbon =3D
> >cables=3D20
> > will determine<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >this. Have you =
=3D
> >changed them=3D20
> > around during your reconfiguration?<BR>> ><BR>> =3D20
> > > Start with a new SCSI cable and a single EDS card. Test =
=3D
> >each MEC.=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>Once<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>> >you know if =3D
> >there is a=3D20
> > problem there, add a new SCSI cable and =3D3D<BR>>another =
=3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >card. Put different modules in the MECs so you can see =
which one =3D
> >is=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>on =3D3D3D<BR>> >card A, B, C at all times. this =
=3D
> >will give=3D20
> > you the info as to how the<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =
>cards =3D
> >are=3D20
> > initializing and which card is card A, B, C as you =
start=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >adding more hardware. the MEC i =
=3D
> >sent you is one=3D20
> > of 4 that were =3D3D<BR>>working =3D3D3D<BR>> >perfectly =
=3D
> >when I took my=3D20
> > system off line. I can't imagine it being =3D
> >a<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >problem. Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue =
though.=3D20
> > Your<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >system will not function =
=3D
> >with bad SCSI=3D20
> > cables.<BR>> ><BR>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC=3D20
> > "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"><BR>> =3D20
> > ><HTML><HEAD><BR>> ><META=3D20
> > http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type =
content=3D3D3D3D"text/html; =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >charset=3D3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>> ><META =3D
> >content=3D3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20
> > 6.00.6000.16414" name=3D3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>> =3D20
> > ><STYLE></STYLE><BR>> =3D
> >></HEAD><BR>> =3D20
> > ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>> =3D
> >><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> > dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
>style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =3D
> >0px;=3D20
> > PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: =3D
> >0px"><BR>> =3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
> >size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20
> > </DIV><BR>> > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl"=3D20
> > <<A=3D3D3D20<BR>> > href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arp=
egi=3D
> >o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>wrote =3D3D3D<BR>> >in =3D
> >message=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D20
> > <A href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:469=
723=3D
> >76@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=3D
> >p;=3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>This =3D
> >is really a=3D20
> > novice =3D3D<BR>>oriented =3D3D3D<BR>> >question but =
..=3D20
> > .=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D
> >.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>It =3D
> >doesn't matter=3D20
> > which card =3D3D<BR>>is the =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >>"A"=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > card</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>in your =
system as =3D
> >far as=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>Paris' ID =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >>orientation=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > right?</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20
> > </DIV><BR>> > <DIV><BR>> =3D
> >> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, =
and =3D
> >the=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>orientation of<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>> >the=3D20
> > slots=3D3D3D20<BR>> > you are using in combination =3D
> >with the=3D20
> > orientation of the =3D3D<BR>>ribbon=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D
> >cables will=3D20
> > determine this. Have you changed them around during =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >your=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D20
> > reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20
> > </DIV><BR>> > <DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2>Start with a new SCSI cable =3D3D<BR>>and a =
=3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >single EDS=3D3D3D20<BR>> > card. Test each MEC. =3D
> >Once you=3D20
> > know if there is a problem there, add<BR>=3D3D<BR>>a<BR>> =
=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>> >new SCSI=3D3D3D20<BR>> > cable =3D
> >and another=3D20
> > card. Put different modules in the MECs so you =
=3D3D<BR>>can =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >see which=3D3D3D20<BR>> > one is on card A, B, C =3D
> >at all=3D20
> > times. this will give you the info =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =
=3D
> >>as=3D20
> > to=3D3D3D20<BR>> > how the cards are initializing and =3D
> >which card=3D20
> > is card A, B, C as =3D3D<BR>>you =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >>start=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 =
that =3D
> >were=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>working<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >><BR>> > =3D20
> > perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't imagine =
it=3D20
> > being<BR>=3D3D<BR>>a =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >>problem.=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue though. =
=3D
> >Your=3D20
> > system<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >will =3D
> >not=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > function with bad SCSI =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> >>cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></B=3D
> >ODY></HTML><BR>> =3D20
> > ><BR>> ><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>I choose =3D
> >Polesoft=3D20
> > Lockspam to fight spam, and=3D20
> > you?<BR>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =3D20
> > <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D20
> > Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=3D20
> > http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type =
content=3D3D3D"text/html;=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =3D
> >content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20
> > 6.00.2800.1400"=3D20
> > =3D
> >name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=3D
> >D><BR>><BODY=3D20
> > bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > =3D
> >size=3D3D3D2>Guys,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'm all set with the cables =
and the =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>which=3D20
> > card is =3D
> >A=3D3D20<BR>>bit.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Rod you were right about =
what I=3D20
> > =3D
> >was=3D3D20<BR>>asking.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FO=3D
> >NT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D
> ></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>In any event I scaled down =
to one EDS=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>(Pretty sure=3D3D20<BR>>that's card A=3D20
> > right?!!!)</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>and plugged it into each of my two=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>working=3D3D20<BR>>Mecs. Paris will boot=3D20
> > but</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =3D
> >
> > size=3D3D3D2>even internal clock was never found =3D
> >nor<BR>=3D3D<BR>>were=3D20
> > the=3D3D20<BR>>in/outs on each=3D20
> > Mec.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>The 442 on the other hand works like =3D
> >a<BR>=3D3D<BR>>champ=3D20
> > one=3D3D20<BR>>card only. I=3D20
> > suspect</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>either all my Mecs are screwy now or =
=3D3D<BR>>the=3D20
> > SCSI=3D3D20<BR>>cables are intermitant at=3D20
> > best.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>It's working fine with the 442 so I'm =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>sticking=3D20
> > with=3D3D20<BR>>that for=3D20
> > today.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>I'll add my EDS cards one by one and =
=3D3D<BR>>see if =3D
> >that=3D20
> > is=3D3D20<BR>>back to=3D20
> > normal.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>Thanks for the help and if I need =3D
> >scsi<BR>=3D3D<BR>>cables=3D20
> > what=3D3D20<BR>>and where to buy them would be good =
info=3D20
> > too.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>Mr=3D20
> > =3D
> >Testy</FONT></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D=3D
> >3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=3D20
> > 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
=3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: =3D
> >#000000 2px=3D20
> > solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Rod Lincoln"=3D20
> > <<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A=
>&a=3D
> =
>mp;g'>mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</=3D
> >A>&g</A>=3D3D<BR>>t;=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > wrote in message <A=3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D'news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>I=
'>n=3D
> =
>ews:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV>&l=3D
> >t;BR>I</A><BR>=3D3D<BR>>think=3D20
> > Tom=3D3D20<BR>> was asking if there was a "3.0" version of =
the =3D
> >EDS card=3D20
> > that =3D3D<BR>>needed<BR>to be=3D3D20<BR>> connected to =
=3D
> >the master.=3D20
> > The answer to that would be no. <BR>Is this =
=3D3D<BR>>what=3D20
> > you=3D3D20<BR>> were asking Tom?<BR>DJ's advice is very =
=3D
> >important=3D20
> > though. I would do =3D3D<BR>>it, if=3D3D20<BR>> you =
haven't=3D20
> > already.<BR>I don't want to sound like a "RTFM" kind of =
=3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>guy,=3D20
> > but=3D3D20<BR>> the Paris manual describes<BR>this =3D
> >procedure pretty=3D20
> > well.<BR>It's on =3D3D<BR>>page 4=3D3D20<BR>> and 5 of =3D
> >the 3.0=3D20
> > version.<BR>It kind of sounds to me like you may=3D20
> > not<BR>=3D3D<BR>>be=3D3D20<BR>> hooking up the correct =
eds=3D20
> > card<BR>to the master =3D
> >mec.<BR>Rod<BR>"DJ"=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> "Tom =3D
> >Bruhl"=3D20
> > <<A=3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arp=
egi=3D
> >o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D20
> > wrote =3D3D<BR>>in message=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>news:46972376@linux...<BR>> This is really =3D
> >a=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>novice oriented=3D3D20<BR>> question but . . =3D
> >.<BR>> It=3D20
> > doesn't matter which card is the =3D3D<BR>>"A"=3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D20
> > card<BR>> in your system as far as Paris' ID=3D20
> > orientation=3D3D20<BR>> right?<BR>><BR>> Yes, =3D
> >it does,=3D20
> > and the orientation of the =3D3D<BR>>slots=3D3D20<BR>> you =
are =3D
> >using in=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>combination with the orientation of the=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>ribbon=3D3D20<BR>> cables will determine =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>this.=3D20
> > Have you changed them around =3D3D<BR>>during =
your=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >
> > reconfiguration?<BR>><BR>> Start with a new SCSI =3D
> >cable and=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>a=3D3D20<BR>> single EDS card. Test each =
MEC.=3D20
> > Once<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>you know if there =3D3D<BR>>is=3D20
> > a=3D3D20<BR>> problem there, add a new SCSI cable and =
another=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>card. Put =3D3D<BR>>different=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >modules in the=3D20
> > MECs so you can see which one is on =3D3D3D<BR>>card A, =
=3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>B, C=3D20
> > at=3D3D20<BR>> all times. this will give you the info as =
to how =3D
> >the=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>cards =3D3D<BR>>are=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >initializing and which=3D20
> > card is card A, B, C as you start =
=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>adding =3D
> >
> > more=3D3D20<BR>> hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 =
that =3D
> >were=3D20
> > working =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>perfectly=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >when I took my=3D20
> > system off line. I can't imagine it being a=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D20<BR>> Bent pins on =
=3D
> >SCSI cables=3D20
> > can be a serious issue though. Your=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>system=3D3D20<BR>> will not =3D
> >function with bad=3D20
> > SCSI cables.<BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>HTML=3D3D20<BR>> PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML =3D
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> > =3D3D<BR>>content=3D3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
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> > =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>name=3D3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE&=3D
> >gt;<BR>></HEA=3D3D<BR>>D><BR>><BODY=3D3D20<BR>&=3D
> >gt; =3D20
> > =3D
> >bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >
> > dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =
0px; =3D
> >PADDING-LEFT:=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>5px;=3D3D20<BR>> MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT:=3D20
> > #000000 2px solid; =3D3D<BR>>MARGIN-RIGHT:=3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D20
> > 0px"><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D
> ><DIV>"Tom=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>Bruhl"=3D3D20<BR>> <<A=3D3D3D20<BR>>=3D20
> > href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> =
>=3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net&l=3D=
> =
>t;/A'>mailto:arpegi=3D3D<BR>>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net<=3D
> >;/A</A>>>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > wrote =3D3D3D<BR>>in message=3D3D3D20<BR>> <A=3D20
> > href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> =
>=3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>=3D
> =
>;...</DIV'>news:469723=3D3D<BR>>76@linux">news:46972376@linux&l=3D
> >t;/A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=3D3D<BR>>p;=3D3D20=3D
> ><BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>This is =
really a=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>novice oriented=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>question but .=3D20
> > .=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > .</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D3D2>It =
=3D
> >doesn't matter which=3D20
> > card is the =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>"A"=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > card</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> size=3D3D3D3D2>in =
your =3D
> >system as far=3D20
> > as Paris' ID=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>orientation=3D3D3D20<BR>>=3D20
> > =3D3D20<BR>> right?</FONT></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> > <DIV><FONT =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>>=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>><DIV><BR>> =3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> ><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, and =
the=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>orientation=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >of<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>the=3D20
> > slots=3D3D3D20<BR>> you are using in =
=3D3D<BR>>combination=3D20
> > with=3D3D20<BR>> the orientation of the =3D
> >ribbon=3D3D3D20<BR>> cables=3D20
> > will determine =3D3D<BR>>this.=3D3D20<BR>> Have you =
changed =3D
> >them around=3D20
> > during =3D3D3D<BR>>your=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>><BR>> =3D20
> > reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Start with a =
new =3D
> >SCSI=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>cable and a=3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>>single=3D20
> > EDS=3D3D3D20<BR>> card. Test each MEC. Once you =
=3D3D<BR>>know =3D
> >
> > if=3D3D20<BR>> there is a problem there, add=3D20
> > a<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>new =3D3D<BR>>SCSI=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >
> > cable=3D3D20<BR>> and another card. Put different modules =
in =3D
> >the MECs so=3D20
> > you can =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>see=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > which=3D3D3D20<BR>> one is on card A, B, C at all times. =
this=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>will give you=3D3D20<BR>> the info =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>as=3D20
> > to=3D3D3D20<BR>> how the cards are =
=3D3D<BR>>initializing=3D20
> > and=3D3D20<BR>> which card is card A, B, C as you=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>start=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>adding=3D20
> > more=3D3D20<BR>> hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 =
that=3D20
> > were=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >working<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>><BR>>=3D20
> > perfectly when I took my system =3D3D<BR>>off line. =3D
> >I=3D3D20<BR>> can't=3D20
> > imagine it being a =3D3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >Bent=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>pins on SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> cables can be a serious =
=3D
> >issue though.=3D20
> > Your system =3D3D3D<BR>>will=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >not=3D3D3D20<BR>>=3D20
> > function with bad SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV>=3D
> >;</BLOCKQUOTE>=3D3D<BR>>;</BODY></HTML><BR>>&=3D
> >lt;BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
=3D
> >spam,=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>=3D3D<BR>>and=3D3D20<BR>>you?<BR><A=3D3D20<BR>>href=3D3D3D "<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
fer=3D
> =
>'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=3D=
> >>=3D3D<BR>>.html</A>=3D20
> > =3D
> ></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML><BR>><BR>><BR></=3D
> >BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> >
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This might be flogging the rented =
and=20
dead mule, but you did verify that dual core was off in this =
equation, and=20
hadn't been flipped back on by a gremlin?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><BR>AA</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
in message=20
<A href=3D"news:469ad5e8@linux">news:469ad5e8@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ya Jeff,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>At least half the times no C-16 was=20
attached.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Do you think that a bad C-16 cable =
could cause=20
these issues?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll remove them from the setup until =
all is=20
well.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I know at least a few times =
it worked=20
that the C-16 did also.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"Jeff Hoover" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:4699b378@linux">news:4699b378@linux</A>...</DIV>Tom,<BR><BR>=
Stupid=20
question, but did you ever start up without any c16's? If so =
did=20
<BR>you see the same issue?<BR><BR>Jeff<BR><BR><BR>Bruhl =
wrote:<BR>>=20
Rod,<BR>> I am working from a clone that was totally good with=20
two<BR>> fully loaded Mecs. I have to assume the drivers =
are=20
good.<BR>> I'm looking for a good vendor for SCSI cables =
now.<BR>>=20
They're called SCSI 2 right?<BR>> <A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.m2cables.com/SCSI2toSCSI2CablesHDB50MtoML6.html">http:=
//www.m2cables.com/SCSI2toSCSI2CablesHDB50MtoML6.html</A><BR >> =20
<BR>> I'm thinking of cleaning the female jacks on the mec and =
EDS to=20
be<BR>> sure all is well. Any sprays anyone suggests? =
I've=20
got Deoxit.<BR>> Good?<BR>> Tom<BR>>=20
<BR>> "Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A><B=
R>> =20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.co=
m</A>>>=20
wrote in message<BR>> <A=20
href=3D"news:4697f7e2$1@linux">news:4697f7e2$1@linux</A>...<BR>>=20
<BR>> Tom, sounds like it probably is a =
scsi=20
issue. Your running xp right?<BR>> The=20
new<BR>> Scherzo drivers are for xp =
verses 98 not=20
for 3.0 verses 2.x<BR>> Come to think of =
it. you=20
probably whoudn't have had any old =
drivers<BR>> =20
on your<BR>> xp sys drive anyway...never=20
mind.<BR>> =
Rod<BR>> =20
"Tom Bruhl" <<A =
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>=20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">mailto:arpegio@comcast.net</A>>>=
;=20
wrote:<BR> > =2 0
><BR> > =2 0
><BR>> >Hey=20
Rod,<BR>> >Hiding the default =
project=20
didn't help anything. I've =
never<BR> > =2 0
>had 2.?? installed on this comp so I think I'm safe there=20
regarding<BR> > =2 0
>drivers.<BR> > =2 0
><BR>> >I am only able to=20
intermitantly get the 442 working as the=20
master.<BR>> >I think that's do =
to the=20
scsi cable issue. I need four new=20
ones.<BR>> >I am unable to get =
more than=20
one EDS card working WITH the =
442.<BR> > =2 0
>Not sure why. The ribbons are all wired=20
correctly.<BR> > =2 0
><BR>> >I'm off to a hellish =
gigging=20
weekend. No more time for hell in=20
Paris.<BR>> >Thanks for all your =
input,<BR> > =2 0
>Tom<BR>> > "Rod =
Lincoln"=20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A><B=
R>> =20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.co=
m</A>>>=20
wrote in message =3D<BR> > =2 0
>news:4697ab8a@linux...<BR> > =2 0
><BR>> > Did you try =
hiding the=20
default ppj to see if it would boot =
up<BR>> with=20
a =3D<BR>> >MEC=20
when<BR>> > creating a new =
session?=3D20<BR>> > =20
Rod<BR>> > "Tom Bruhl" =
<<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A> <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">mailto:arpegio@comcast.net</A>>>=
;<BR>> =20
wrote:<BR>> > =20
><BR>> > =20
><BR>> > =20
>Guys,<BR>> > >I'm =
all set=20
with the cables and the which card is A=20
bit.<BR>> > >Rod you =
were right=20
about what I was asking.<BR>> =
> =20
><BR>> > >In any =
event I=20
scaled down to one EDS (Pretty sure that's=20
card<BR>> A=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>right?!!!)<BR>> > =
>and=20
plugged it into each of my two working Mecs. Paris=20
will<BR>> boot=20
but<BR>> > >even =
internal clock=20
was never found nor were the in/outs =
on<BR>> each=20
Mec.<BR>> > >The 442 on =
the=20
other hand works like a champ one card only. I=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>suspect<BR>> > =
>either all=20
my Mecs are screwy now or the SCSI cables=20
are<BR>> =20
intermitant<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>at<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>best.<BR>> > >It's =
working=20
fine with the 442 so I'm sticking with that for=20
today.<BR>> > >I'll add =
my EDS=20
cards one by one and see if that is back to=20
normal.<BR>> > =20
><BR>> > >Thanks for =
the=20
help and if I need scsi cables what and where=20
to<BR>> buy=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>them<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > >would be =
good info=20
too.<BR>> > >Mr=20
Testy<BR>> > > =
"Rod=20
Lincoln" <<A=20
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href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A><B=
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<<A=20
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m</A>>>=20
wrote in message =3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
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> ><BR>> > =
> =20
I think Tom was asking if there was a "3.0" version of=20
the<BR>> EDS =
card<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > >that=20
needed<BR>> > > =
to be=20
connected to the master. The answer to that would=20
be<BR>> =20
no.=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> Is this=20
what you were asking Tom?<BR>> =
> =20
> DJ's advice is very important though. I would do it, if=20
you<BR>> =
haven't<BR>> =20
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>=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>already.<BR>> > =
> I=20
don't want to sound like a "RTFM" kind of guy, but the Paris=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>manual<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>describes<BR>> > =
> =20
this procedure pretty well.<BR>> =
> =20
> It's on page 4 and 5 of the 3.0=20
version.<BR>> > > =
It kind=20
of sounds to me like you may not be hooking up=20
the<BR>> =
correct<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>eds<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>card<BR>> > > =
to the=20
master mec.<BR>> > =
> =20
Rod<BR>> > > "DJ" =
<animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net>=20
wrote:<BR>> > > =20
><BR>> > > =20
><BR>> > > =20
><BR>> > > =
> =20
"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
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href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A><BR>> =
=20
<<A=20
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href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">mailto:arpegio@comcast.net</A>>>=
;=20
wrote in message =3D3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
> =
>news:46972376@linux...<BR> > =2 0
> > > This is really a novice oriented =
question=20
but . . .<BR>> > =
> =20
> It doesn't matter which card is the "A"=20
card<BR>> > > =
> =20
in your system as far as Paris' ID orientation=20
right?<BR>> > > =20
><BR>> > > =
> =20
Yes, it does, and the orientation of the slots you=20
are<BR>> using =
in<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>combination with the orientation of the ribbon cables will=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>determine<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>this. Have you changed them around during your=20
reconfiguration?<BR>> > =
> =20
><BR>> > > =
> =20
Start with a new SCSI cable and a single EDS card. Test each=20
=3D<BR>> >MEC.=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>Once<BR>> > > =
=3D3D3D<BR>> > > =
>you=20
know if there is a problem there, add a new SCSI=20
cable<BR>> and=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >another=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > > =
>card.=20
Put different modules in the MECs so you can see=20
which<BR>> one=20
=3D<BR>> >is=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >on=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > > =
>card=20
A, B, C at all times. this will give you the info as=20
to<BR>> how=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>the<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>cards are initializing and which card is card A, B, C as=20
you<BR>> =
start<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4=20
that<BR>> were=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >working=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > > =20
>perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't imagine=20
it<BR>> =
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>a<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
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> =20
>problem. Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious=20
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=3D<BR> > =2 0
>Your<BR>> > =20
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>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
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>system will not function with bad SCSI=20
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> =20
> <DIV>"Tom Bruhl"=20
<<A=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
> <BR>> href=3D3D3D3D"<A=20
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href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A><BR>> =
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<<A=20
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href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
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=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > >wrote =
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>in=20
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> =20
> <A =3D<BR>> =
>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=20
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<<A=20
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> > > <DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>This is really a<BR>> =20
novice<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =
>oriented=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > > =20
>question but . .=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> > =20
.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>It doesn't matter<BR>> =20
which<BR>> =20
=3D<BR>> >card=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >is the=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > > =20
>"A"=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
> =20
card</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> > > <DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>in your system as<BR>> =
far=20
=3D<BR>> >as=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >Paris' ID =
=3D3D3D<BR>> > > =20
>orientation=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> > =20
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right?</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> > > <DIV><FONT =
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> =20
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size=3D3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, and<BR>> =
the=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =
>orientation=20
of<BR>> > > =20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > > =
>the=20
slots=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
> you are using in combination with the orientation of the=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>ribbon=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =
> > cables will determine this. Have you changed =
them=20
around<BR>> =20
during<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>your=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
> =20
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reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR >> =
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> > > <DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> > =
> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>Start with a=20
new<BR>> SCSI=20
=3D<BR>> >cable=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >and a=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > > =
>single=20
EDS=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
> card. Test each MEC. Once you know if there is a=20
problem<BR>> =20
there,<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>add<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>a<BR>> > > =20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > > =
>new=20
SCSI=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
> cable and another card. Put different modules in the=20
MECs<BR>> so =
you<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > >can=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > > =
>see=20
which=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
> one is on card A, B, C at all times. this will give=20
you<BR>> the =
info<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> >as=20
to=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
> how the cards are initializing and which card is card=20
A,<BR>> B, C =
as<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > >you=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > > =20
>start=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
> adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4=20
that<BR>> were=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>working<BR>> > =
> =20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > > =20
><BR>> > > =
> =20
perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't imagine it=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>being<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > >a=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > > =20
>problem.=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious =
issue=20
though. Your =3D<BR> > =2 0
>system<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>will not=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
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=3D3D3D<BR>> > > =20
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Lockspam to fight spam, and =
you?<BR> > =2 0
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size=3D3D3D2>Guys,</FONT></DIV&a mp;gt; <BR>> &=
nbsp; =20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>I'm all set=20
with the<BR>> cables=20
and<BR>> =
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>the =3D3D<BR>> > =
>which card=20
is A=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
=
>bit.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>Rod you were=20
right about<BR>> what=20
I<BR>> =
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>was=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
=
>asking.</FONT></DIV><BR >>  =
;=20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> > =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>In any =
event I scaled=20
down<BR>> to=20
=3D<BR>> >one EDS=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >(Pretty=20
sure=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>that's card A=20
=
right?!!!)</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
=20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>and plugged=20
it into each<BR>> of my=20
=3D<BR>> >two=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>working=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>Mecs.=20
Paris will boot=20
but</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>even=20
internal clock was<BR>> never=20
=3D<BR>> >found=20
nor<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > >were=20
the=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>in/outs on=20
each =
Mec.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>The 442 on=20
the other hand<BR>> =20
works<BR>> =20
=3D<BR>> >like=20
a<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > >champ=20
one=3D3D20<BR>> > >card =
only. I=20
=
suspect</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>either all=20
my Mecs are<BR>> screwy=20
=3D<BR>> >now or=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >the=20
SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>cables are=20
intermitant at=20
best.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>It's working=20
fine with the<BR>> 442=20
=3D<BR>> >so I'm=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >sticking=20
with=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>that for=20
=
today.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>I'll add my=20
EDS cards one<BR>> by=20
one<BR>> =
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>and =3D3D<BR>> > =
>see if that=20
is=3D3D20<BR>> > >back =
to=20
=
normal.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> > =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Thanks for =
the help and=20
if I =3D<BR>> >need=20
scsi<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > >cables=20
what=3D3D20<BR>> > >and =
where to=20
buy them would be good info=20
too.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>Mr=20
Testy</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> =
><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20<BR> > =2 0
> >style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px;=20
MARGIN-LEFT:<BR>> 5px;=20
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0px"><BR>> > > =
<DIV>"Rod Lincoln"=20
<<A=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
=3D<BR>> >>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
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href=3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A'>m=
ailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A</A><B=
R>> =20
<<A=20
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href=3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A'>m=
ailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A</A>&g=
t;=3D<BR> > =2 0
>>&g=3D3D<BR>> > =
>t;=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
wrote in message <A=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> =3D<BR>> =
>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
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href=3D'news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>I'>n=
ews:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV>&l=
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t;BR>I</A>><BR> > =2 0
> =3D3D<BR>> > =
>think=20
Tom=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> was=20
asking if there was a "3.0" version of the EDS card that=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>needed<BR>to=20
be=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
connected to the master. The answer to that would be no. =
<BR>Is=20
=3D<BR>> >this=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >what=20
you=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> were=20
asking Tom?<BR>DJ's advice is very important though.=20
I<BR>> would=20
=3D<BR>> >do=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >it,=20
if=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> you=20
haven't already.<BR>I don't want to sound like a=20
"RTFM"<BR>> kind=20
of<BR>> =
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > >guy,=20
but=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> the=20
Paris manual describes<BR>this procedure=20
pretty<BR>> well.<BR>It's=20
=3D<BR>> >on=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >page=20
4=3D3D20<BR>> > > =
and 5 of=20
the 3.0 version.<BR>It kind of sounds to me like=20
you<BR>> may=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>not<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>be=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
hooking up the correct eds card<BR>to the master=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
=
>mec.<BR>Rod<BR>"DJ"=3D3D20 <BR>>  =
; =20
> > <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _=20
net>=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
wrote:<BR>><BR>>&a mp;lt;BR>><BR>> "Tom =
Bruhl"=20
<<A=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A><BR>> =
=20
<<A=20
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href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>>=20
=3D<BR>> >wrote=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >in=20
message=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
=3D3D3D<BR>>news:46972376@linux...<BR>> This is =
really a=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >novice=20
oriented=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
question but . . .<BR>> It doesn't matter which card is the =
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>"A"=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
card<BR>> in your system as far as Paris' ID=20
orientation=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
right?<BR>><BR>> Yes, it does, and the orientation =
of the=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>slots=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
you are using in =3D3D3D<BR>>combination with the=20
orientation<BR>> of=20
the<BR>> =
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>ribbon=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
cables will determine =3D3D3D<BR>>this. Have you changed=20
them<BR>> =
around<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =
>during=20
your=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
reconfiguration?<BR>><BR> > Start with a new SCSI =
cable and=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>a=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
single EDS card. Test each MEC. =
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> >p;=3D3D20<BR>> =
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> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>This is=20
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oriented=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
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=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =
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> size=3D3D3D3D2>It doesn't matter which card is the=20
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> size=3D3D3D3D2>in your system as far as Paris'=20
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right?</FONT></DIV><BR&am p;gt;> <DIV><FONT=20
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size=3D3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, and<BR>> =
the=20
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>orientation=3D3D20<BR>> =
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> =20
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>this.=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
Have you changed them around during<BR>> =20
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reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV>&am p;lt;BR>>=20
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> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>Start with a new<BR>> =
SCSI=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >cable and =
a=3D3D20<BR>> > > =
=3D3D3D<BR>>single EDS=3D3D3D20<BR>> card. Test =
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Once<BR>> you=20
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a problem there, add a<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>new=20
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more=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that=20
were=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
working<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>&a mp;lt;BR>> perfectly when =
I took my=20
system =3D3D<BR>> > =
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SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> > =
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><BR>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML =
PUBLIC=20
"-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
Transitional//EN"><BR> > =2 0
><HTML><HEAD><BR> > =2 0
><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
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>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR> > =2 0
><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400"=20
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><STYLE></STYLE><BR> > =2 0
></HEAD><BR>> ><BODY =
bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hey=20
Rod,</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hiding the =
default project=20
didn't<BR>> =20
help=3D20<BR>> >anything. I've=20
never</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>had 2.?? =
installed on this=20
comp<BR>> so I=20
=3D<BR>> >think I'm=20
safe=3D20<BR>> >there=20
=
regarding</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
=
size=3D3D2>drivers.</FONT></DIV& amp;gt; <BR>> =
=20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am only able to=20
intermitantly<BR>> get=20
the<BR>> =
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>442 working=3D20<BR>> >as =
the=20
=
master.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I think that's =
do to the=20
scsi cable =3D<BR>> >issue.=20
I=3D20<BR>> >need four new=20
ones.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am unable to =
get more=20
than one<BR>> EDS=20
=3D<BR>> >card=20
working=3D20<BR>> >WITH the=20
442.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Not sure why. =
The ribbons=20
are all =3D<BR> > =2 0
>wired=3D20<BR> > =2 0
=
>correctly.</FONT></DIV><BR >> &n=
bsp;=20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm off to a hellish gigging=20
=3D<BR>> >weekend. No=20
more=3D20<BR>> >time for hell in =
=
Paris.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks for all=20
your<BR>> =20
=
input,</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
=
size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV&g t; <BR>>  =
; =20
><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR> > =2 0
>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px;=20
=3D<BR>> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 =
2px solid;=20
MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> =
> =20
<DIV>"Rod Lincoln" =
<<A=3D20<BR> > =2 0
> =3D<BR>> =
>href=3D3D"<A=20
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href=3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&a=
mp;g'>mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</=
A>&g</A><BR>> =20
<<A=20
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href=3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&a=
mp;g'>mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</=
A>&g</A>>=3D<BR> > =2 0
>t;=3D20<BR>> > wrote =
in message=20
<A=3D20<BR>> >=20
<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:4697ab8a@linux">news:4697ab8a@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Did'>new=
s:4697ab8a@linux">news:4697ab8a@linux</A>...</DIV><BR&g=
t;Did</A><BR>> =20
<<A=20
=
href=3D'news:4697ab8a@linux">news:4697ab8a@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Did'>new=
s:4697ab8a@linux">news:4697ab8a@linux</A>...</DIV><BR&g=
t;Did</A>>=20
=3D<BR>> >you=20
try=3D20<BR>> > hiding the =
default=20
ppj to see if it would boot up with a MEC=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
=
>when<BR>creating=3D20<BR> > =2 0
> a new session? <BR>Rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl"=20
<<A=3D20<BR>> > =
href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto=
:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20</A><BR>&g=
t; =20
<<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto=
:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20</A>><B=
R> > =2 0
> =20
=
wrote:<BR>><BR>>&a mp;lt;BR>>Guys,<BR>>I'm =
all=20
set with the cables =3D<BR>> =
>and=20
the=3D20<BR>> > which card =
is A=20
bit.<BR>>Rod you were right about what I=20
was=3D20<BR>> > =20
asking.<BR>><BR>>I n any event I scaled down to one =
EDS=20
(Pretty =3D<BR> > =2 0
>sure=3D20<BR>> > =
that's card A=20
=3D3D<BR>>right?!!!)<BR>& amp;gt;and plugged it into each =
of=20
=3D<BR>> >my=20
two=3D20<BR>> > working =
Mecs. Paris=20
will boot but<BR>>even internal clock was=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>never=3D20<BR>> > =
found nor were=20
the in/outs on each Mec.<BR>>The 442 on the other=20
=3D<BR>> >hand=20
works=3D20<BR>> > like a =
champ one=20
card only. I suspect<BR>>either all my Mecs=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>are=3D20<BR>> > screwy =
now or=20
the SCSI cables are intermitant =
=3D<BR> > =2 0
=
>at<BR>=3D3D<BR>>b est.<BR>>It's=3D20 <BR>>&n=
bsp; =20
> working fine with the 442 so I'm sticking with that for=20
=3D<BR>> =
>today.<BR>>I'll=20
add=3D20<BR>> > my EDS =
cards one by=20
one and see if that is back =
to=3D20<BR> > =2 0
> normal.<BR>><BR>>T hanks for the help =
and if I=20
need scsi cables =3D<BR>> >what=20
and=3D20<BR>> > where to =
buy=20
them<BR>=3D3D<BR>>would be good info=20
too.<BR>>Mr=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
Testy<BR>> "Rod Lincoln"=20
<<A=3D20<BR>> > =20
=3D<BR>> >href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&a=
mp;g'>mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</=
A>&g</A><BR>> =20
<<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&a=
mp;g'>mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</=
A>&g</A>>=3D<BR> > =2 0
>t;=3D20<BR>> > wrote =
in message=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
=
>=3D3D<BR>>news:469780ce$1@linux...<BR>><BR>&g=
t;=20
I=3D20<BR>> > think Tom =
was asking=20
if there was a "3.0" version of the EDS=20
card=3D20<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>>that needed<BR>> to be connected to the =
master.=20
=3D<BR>> >The=20
answer=3D20<BR>> > to that =
would be=20
no.=3D3D20<BR>> Is this what you were=20
asking=3D20<BR>> > =20
Tom?<BR>> DJ's advice is very important though. I would do=20
=3D<BR>> >it, if=20
you=3D20<BR>> > haven't=20
=3D3D<BR>>already.<BR>&am p;gt; I don't want to sound like =
a=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>"RTFM"=3D20<BR>> > =
kind of guy,=20
but the Paris =3D<BR> > =2 0
>manual<BR>=3D3D<BR>& gt;describes<BR>>=20
this=3D20<BR>> > procedure =
pretty=20
well.<BR>> It's on page 4 and 5 of the=20
3.0=3D20<BR>> > =20
version.<BR>> It kind of sounds to me like you may not be=20
=3D<BR>> >hooking=20
up=3D20<BR>> > the correct =
eds<BR>=3D3D<BR>>card& ;lt;BR>> to the=20
master=3D20<BR>> > =20
mec.<BR>> Rod<BR>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ =
=3D<BR>> >dot=20
_=3D20<BR>> > net>=20
wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> > =
><BR>> >=20
"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A><BR>> =
=20
<<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>>=20
wrote =3D<BR>> >in=20
message=3D20<BR>> > =20
=3D3D3D<BR>> >news:46972376@linux...<BR>>=20
=3D<BR>> >> This=20
is=3D20<BR>> > really a =
novice=20
oriented question but . . .<BR>> >=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>It=3D20<BR>> > doesn't =
matter=20
which card is the "A" card<BR>> > in=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>your=3D20<BR>> > =
system as far=20
as Paris' ID orientation right?<BR>>=20
=3D<BR>> >><BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> > > Yes, it =
does, and=20
the orientation of the slots you are =
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>using in=3D20<BR>> > =20
=3D3D3D<BR>> >combination with the orientation of the =
ribbon=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>cables=3D20<BR>> > =
will=20
determine<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3 D3D3D<BR>> =
>this. Have you=20
=3D<BR>> >changed=20
them=3D20<BR>> > around =
during your=20
reconfiguration?<BR>> ><BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> > > Start =
with a new=20
SCSI cable and a single EDS card. Test=20
=3D<BR>> >each=20
MEC.=3D20<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>>Once<BR>> ; =3D3D3D<BR>> >you =
know if=20
=3D<BR>> >there is=20
a=3D20<BR>> > problem =
there, add a=20
new SCSI cable and =3D3D<BR>>another=20
=3D<BR>> >=3D3D3D<BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> > >card. Put =
different=20
modules in the MECs so you can see which one=20
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| Re: Paris hardware troubles won't stop. HELP!!! [message #88167 is a reply to message #88152] |
Mon, 16 July 2007 06:32 |
Tom Bruhl
Messages: 1368
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Aaron,
Hyperthreading is off. I'll double check though. I'd love to save the =
money
on those scsi cables.
What do you think about Deoxit in the female scsi jacks?
Tom
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =
news:469aead6@linux...
This might be flogging the rented and dead mule, but you did verify =
that dual core was off in this equation, and hadn't been flipped back on =
by a gremlin?
AA
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:469ad5e8@linux...
Ya Jeff,
At least half the times no C-16 was attached.
Do you think that a bad C-16 cable could cause these issues?
I'll remove them from the setup until all is well.
I know at least a few times it worked that the C-16 did also.
Tom=20
"Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message =
news:4699b378@linux...
Tom,
Stupid question, but did you ever start up without any c16's? If =
so did=20
you see the same issue?
Jeff
Bruhl wrote:
> Rod,
> I am working from a clone that was totally good with two
> fully loaded Mecs. I have to assume the drivers are good.
> I'm looking for a good vendor for SCSI cables now.
> They're called SCSI 2 right?
> http://www.m2cables.com/SCSI2toSCSI2CablesHDB50MtoML6.html
> =20
> I'm thinking of cleaning the female jacks on the mec and EDS to =
be
> sure all is well. Any sprays anyone suggests? I've got Deoxit.
> Good?
> Tom
>=20
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com
> <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com>> wrote in message
> news:4697f7e2$1@linux...
>=20
> Tom, sounds like it probably is a scsi issue. Your running =
xp right?
> The new
> Scherzo drivers are for xp verses 98 not for 3.0 verses 2.x
> Come to think of it. you probably whoudn't have had any old =
drivers
> on your
> xp sys drive anyway...never mind.
> Rod
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net =
<mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Hey Rod,
> >Hiding the default project didn't help anything. I've =
never
> >had 2.?? installed on this comp so I think I'm safe there =
regarding
> >drivers.
> >
> >I am only able to intermitantly get the 442 working as the =
master.
> >I think that's do to the scsi cable issue. I need four =
new ones.
> >I am unable to get more than one EDS card working WITH the =
442.
> >Not sure why. The ribbons are all wired correctly.
> >
> >I'm off to a hellish gigging weekend. No more time for =
hell in Paris.
> >Thanks for all your input,
> >Tom
> > "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com
> <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com>> wrote in message =3D
> >news:4697ab8a@linux...
> >
> > Did you try hiding the default ppj to see if it would =
boot up
> with a =3D
> >MEC when
> > creating a new session?=3D20
> > Rod
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net =
<mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >Guys,
> > >I'm all set with the cables and the which card is A =
bit.
> > >Rod you were right about what I was asking.
> > >
> > >In any event I scaled down to one EDS (Pretty sure =
that's card
> A =3D3D
> > >right?!!!)
> > >and plugged it into each of my two working Mecs. Paris =
will
> boot but
> > >even internal clock was never found nor were the =
in/outs on
> each Mec.
> > >The 442 on the other hand works like a champ one card =
only. I =3D
> >suspect
> > >either all my Mecs are screwy now or the SCSI cables =
are
> intermitant
> =3D
> >at
> > =3D3D
> > >best.
> > >It's working fine with the 442 so I'm sticking with =
that for today.
> > >I'll add my EDS cards one by one and see if that is =
back to normal.
> > >
> > >Thanks for the help and if I need scsi cables what and =
where to
> buy =3D
> >them
> > =3D3D
> > >would be good info too.
> > >Mr Testy
> > > "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com
> <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com>> wrote in message =3D3D
> > >news:469780ce$1@linux...
> > >
> > > I think Tom was asking if there was a "3.0" version =
of the
> EDS card
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >that needed
> > > to be connected to the master. The answer to that =
would be
> no.=3D3D20
> > > Is this what you were asking Tom?
> > > DJ's advice is very important though. I would do it, =
if you
> haven't
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >already.
> > > I don't want to sound like a "RTFM" kind of guy, but =
the Paris =3D
> >manual
> > =3D3D
> > >describes
> > > this procedure pretty well.
> > > It's on page 4 and 5 of the 3.0 version.
> > > It kind of sounds to me like you may not be hooking =
up the
> correct
> =3D
> >eds
> > =3D3D
> > >card
> > > to the master mec.
> > > Rod
> > > "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>> wrote in message =3D3D3D
> > > >news:46972376@linux...
> > > > This is really a novice oriented question but . . =
..
> > > > It doesn't matter which card is the "A" card
> > > > in your system as far as Paris' ID orientation =
right?
> > > >
> > > > Yes, it does, and the orientation of the slots you =
are
> using in
> =3D
> >=3D3D3D
> > > >combination with the orientation of the ribbon =
cables will =3D
> >determine
> > =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >this. Have you changed them around during your =
reconfiguration?
> > > >
> > > > Start with a new SCSI cable and a single EDS card. =
Test each =3D
> >MEC. =3D3D
> > >Once
> > > =3D3D3D
> > > >you know if there is a problem there, add a new SCSI =
cable
> and =3D3D
> > >another =3D3D3D
> > > >card. Put different modules in the MECs so you can =
see which
> one =3D
> >is =3D3D
> > >on =3D3D3D
> > > >card A, B, C at all times. this will give you the =
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> > =3D3D
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> > > >cards are initializing and which card is card A, B, =
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> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 =
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> > > >perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't =
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> > =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >problem. Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious =
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> > =3D3D
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> > > >system will not function with bad SCSI cables.
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> > > > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D3D20
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> > > > <DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Yes, =
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> > >orientation of
> > > =3D3D3D
> > > >the slots=3D3D3D20
> > > > you are using in combination with the orientation =
of the =3D3D
> > >ribbon=3D3D3D20
> > > > cables will determine this. Have you changed them =
around
> during
> =3D
> >=3D3D3D
> > > >your=3D3D3D20
> > > > reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Start =
with a new
> SCSI =3D
> >cable =3D3D
> > >and a =3D3D3D
> > > >single EDS=3D3D3D20
> > > > card. Test each MEC. Once you know if there is a =
problem
> there,
> =3D
> >add
> > =3D3D
> > >a
> > > =3D3D3D
> > > >new SCSI=3D3D3D20
> > > > cable and another card. Put different modules in =
the MECs
> so you
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >can =3D3D3D
> > > >see which=3D3D3D20
> > > > one is on card A, B, C at all times. this will =
give you
> the info
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >as to=3D3D3D20
> > > > how the cards are initializing and which card is =
card A,
> B, C as
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >you =3D3D3D
> > > >start=3D3D3D20
> > > > adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of =
4 that
> were =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >working
> > > =3D3D3D
> > > >
> > > > perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't =
imagine it =3D
> >being
> > =3D3D
> > >a =3D3D3D
> > > >problem.=3D3D3D20
> > > > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue =
though. Your =3D
> >system
> > =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >will not=3D3D3D20
> > > > function with bad SCSI =3D3D3D
> > > =
>cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> > >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =3D20
> > >
> > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 =
Transitional//EN">
> > ><HTML><HEAD>
> > ><META http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type =
content=3D3D3D"text/html; =3D3D
> > >charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1">
> > ><META content=3D3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" =
name=3D3D3DGENERATOR>
> > ><STYLE></STYLE>
> > ></HEAD>
> > ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>Guys,</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'm all set =
with the
> cables and
> =3D
> >the =3D3D
> > >which card is A=3D3D20
> > >bit.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Rod you were =
right about
> what I
> =3D
> >was=3D3D20
> > >asking.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>In any event I =
scaled down
> to =3D
> >one EDS =3D3D
> > >(Pretty sure=3D3D20
> > >that's card A right?!!!)</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>and plugged it =
into each
> of my =3D
> >two =3D3D
> > >working=3D3D20
> > >Mecs. Paris will boot but</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>even internal =
clock was
> never =3D
> >found nor
> > =3D3D
> > >were the=3D3D20
> > >in/outs on each Mec.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>The 442 on the =
other hand
> works
> =3D
> >like a
> > =3D3D
> > >champ one=3D3D20
> > >card only. I suspect</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>either all my =
Mecs are
> screwy =3D
> >now or =3D3D
> > >the SCSI=3D3D20
> > >cables are intermitant at best.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>It's working =
fine with the
> 442 =3D
> >so I'm =3D3D
> > >sticking with=3D3D20
> > >that for today.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'll add my =
EDS cards one
> by one
> =3D
> >and =3D3D
> > >see if that is=3D3D20
> > >back to normal.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Thanks for the =
help and if I =3D
> >need scsi
> > =3D3D
> > >cables what=3D3D20
> > >and where to buy them would be good info =
too.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Mr =
Testy</FONT></DIV>
> > ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20
> > >style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; =
MARGIN-LEFT:
> 5px; =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > > <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com=
</A
> =
<mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>=3D
> >>&g=3D3D
> > >t;=3D3D20
> > > wrote in message <A=3D3D20
> > > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D3D"news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR=
>I
> =
<news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>I>
> > =3D3D
> > >think Tom=3D3D20
> > > was asking if there was a "3.0" version of the EDS =
card that =3D3D
> > >needed<BR>to be=3D3D20
> > > connected to the master. The answer to that would be =
no. <BR>Is =3D
> >this =3D3D
> > >what you=3D3D20
> > > were asking Tom?<BR>DJ's advice is very important =
though. I
> would =3D
> >do =3D3D
> > >it, if=3D3D20
> > > you haven't already.<BR>I don't want to sound like a =
"RTFM"
> kind of
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >guy, but=3D3D20
> > > the Paris manual describes<BR>this procedure pretty
> well.<BR>It's =3D
> >on =3D3D
> > >page 4=3D3D20
> > > and 5 of the 3.0 version.<BR>It kind of sounds to me =
like you
> may =3D
> >not
> > =3D3D
> > >be=3D3D20
> > > hooking up the correct eds card<BR>to the master =3D
> >mec.<BR>Rod<BR>"DJ"=3D3D20
> > > <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net>=3D3D20
> > > wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D20
> > > =
href=3D3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>> =3D
> >wrote =3D3D
> > >in message=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D<BR>>news:46972376@linux...<BR>> This is =
really a =3D3D
> > >novice oriented=3D3D20
> > > question but . . .<BR>> It doesn't matter which card =
is the =3D3D
> > >"A"=3D3D20
> > > card<BR>> in your system as far as Paris' ID =
orientation=3D3D20
> > > right?<BR>><BR>> Yes, it does, and the orientation of =
the =3D3D
> > >slots=3D3D20
> > > you are using in =3D3D3D<BR>>combination with the =
orientation
> of the
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >ribbon=3D3D20
> > > cables will determine =3D3D3D<BR>>this. Have you =
changed them
> around
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >during your=3D3D20
> > > reconfiguration?<BR>><BR>> Start with a new SCSI =
cable and =3D3D
> > >a=3D3D20
> > > single EDS card. Test each MEC. =
Once<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>you know if
> there
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >is a=3D3D20
> > > problem there, add a new SCSI cable and another
> =3D3D3D<BR>>card. Put
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >different=3D3D20
> > > modules in the MECs so you can see which one is on
> =3D3D3D<BR>>card =3D
> >A, =3D3D
> > >B, C at=3D3D20
> > > all times. this will give you the info as to how the =
=3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>cards =3D3D
> > >are=3D3D20
> > > initializing and which card is card A, B, C as you =
start =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D<BR>>adding more=3D3D20
> > > hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were =
working =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D<BR>>perfectly=3D3D20
> > > when I took my system off line. I can't imagine it =
being a =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D20
> > > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue =
though. Your =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D<BR>>system=3D3D20
> > > will not function with bad SCSI =
cables.<BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE =3D3D
> > >HTML=3D3D20
> > > PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D3D20
> > > Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=3D3D20
> > > http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type =
content=3D3D3D3D"text/html;=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
=3D3D
> > >content=3D3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D3D20
> > > 6.00.6000.16414"=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > =
>name=3D3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=3D3D
> > >D><BR>><BODY=3D3D20
> > > bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20
> > > =
dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; =3D
> >PADDING-LEFT: =3D3D
> > >5px;=3D3D20
> > > MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 =
2px solid; =3D3D
> > >MARGIN-RIGHT:=3D3D20
> > > 0px"><BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> <DIV>"Tom =3D3D
> > >Bruhl"=3D3D20
> > > <<A=3D3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:=
arp=3D
> >egi=3D3D
> > >o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D3D20
> > > wrote =3D3D3D<BR>>in message=3D3D3D20<BR>> <A =
href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:=
469=3D
> >723=3D3D
> > =
>76@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=3D3D
> > >p;=3D3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>This is =
really a =3D3D
> > >novice oriented=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D<BR>>question but . .=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> > > .</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D3D
> > >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D3D2>It doesn't matter which card is the =
=3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D<BR>>"A"=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> > > card</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D3D
> > >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D3D2>in your system as far as Paris' =
ID=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D<BR>>orientation=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> > > right?</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D3D
> > >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> > ><DIV><BR>> =3D3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Yes, it =
does, and
> the =3D3D
> > >orientation=3D3D20
> > > of<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>the slots=3D3D3D20<BR>> you are =
using in =3D3D
> > >combination with=3D3D20
> > > the orientation of the ribbon=3D3D3D20<BR>> cables =
will
> determine =3D3D
> > >this.=3D3D20
> > > Have you changed them around during
> =3D3D3D<BR>>your=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
> > >
> > > reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> > ><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> > > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =
=3D3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Start =
with a new
> SCSI =3D3D
> > >cable and a=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D<BR>>single EDS=3D3D3D20<BR>> card. Test each =
MEC. Once
> you =3D3D
> > >know if=3D3D20
> > > there is a problem there, add a<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>new =
=3D3D
> > >SCSI=3D3D3D20<BR>> cable=3D3D20
> > > and another card. Put different modules in the MECs =
so you
> can =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D<BR>>see=3D3D20
> > > which=3D3D3D20<BR>> one is on card A, B, C at all =
times. this =3D3D
> > >will give you=3D3D20
> > > the info =3D3D3D<BR>>as to=3D3D3D20<BR>> how the =
cards are =3D3D
> > >initializing and=3D3D20
> > > which card is card A, B, C as you =
=3D3D3D<BR>>start=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
> > >adding more=3D3D20
> > > hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that =
were=3D3D20
> > > working<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>><BR>> perfectly when I took my =
system =3D3D
> > >off line. I=3D3D20
> > > can't imagine it being a =
=3D3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D3D20<BR>> Bent =3D3D
> > >pins on SCSI=3D3D20
> > > cables can be a serious issue though. Your system =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>will=3D3D20
> > > not=3D3D3D20<BR>> function with bad SCSI=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > =
>=3D3D3D<BR>>cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>=3D3D
> > >;</BODY></HTML><BR>><BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
> > ><DIV><FONT size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft =
Lockspam to fight =3D
> >spam, =3D3D
> > >and=3D3D20
> > >you?<BR><A=3D3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com=
/re
> =
<http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re>=3D
> >fer=3D3D
> > >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 =
Transitional//EN">
> ><HTML><HEAD>
> ><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =
=3D
> >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
> ><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" =
name=3D3DGENERATOR>
> ><STYLE></STYLE>
> ></HEAD>
> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hey Rod,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hiding the default =
project didn't
> help=3D20
> >anything. I've never</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>had 2.?? installed on =
this comp
> so I =3D
> >think I'm safe=3D20
> >there regarding</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>drivers.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am only able to =
intermitantly
> get the
> =3D
> >442 working=3D20
> >as the master.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I think that's do to =
the scsi cable =3D
> >issue. I=3D20
> >need four new ones.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am unable to get =
more than one
> EDS =3D
> >card working=3D20
> >WITH the 442.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Not sure why. The =
ribbons are all =3D
> >wired=3D20
> >correctly.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm off to a hellish =
gigging =3D
> >weekend. No more=3D20
> >time for hell in Paris.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks for all your
> input,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; =
MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A=
>&g
> =
<mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g>=3D
> >t;=3D20
> > wrote in message <A=3D20
> >=20
> =
href=3D3D"news:4697ab8a@linux">news:4697ab8a@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Did
> =
<news:4697ab8a@linux">news:4697ab8a@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Did> =3D
> >you try=3D20
> > hiding the default ppj to see if it would boot up with a =
MEC =3D
> >when<BR>creating=3D20
> > a new session? <BR>Rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> > =
href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20>
> > wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Guys,<BR>>I'm all set with the =
cables =3D
> >and the=3D20
> > which card is A bit.<BR>>Rod you were right about what I =
was=3D20
> > asking.<BR>><BR>>In any event I scaled down to one EDS =
(Pretty =3D
> >sure=3D20
> > that's card A =3D3D<BR>>right?!!!)<BR>>and plugged it =
into each of =3D
> >my two=3D20
> > working Mecs. Paris will boot but<BR>>even internal =
clock was =3D
> >never=3D20
> > found nor were the in/outs on each Mec.<BR>>The 442 on =
the other =3D
> >hand works=3D20
> > like a champ one card only. I suspect<BR>>either all my =
Mecs =3D
> >are=3D20
> > screwy now or the SCSI cables are intermitant =3D
> >at<BR>=3D3D<BR>>best.<BR>>It's=3D20
> > working fine with the 442 so I'm sticking with that for =
=3D
> >today.<BR>>I'll add=3D20
> > my EDS cards one by one and see if that is back to=3D20
> > normal.<BR>><BR>>Thanks for the help and if I need scsi =
cables =3D
> >what and=3D20
> > where to buy them<BR>=3D3D<BR>>would be good info =
too.<BR>>Mr=3D20
> > Testy<BR>> "Rod Lincoln" <<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A=
>&g
> =
<mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g>=3D
> >t;=3D20
> > wrote in message =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>news:469780ce$1@linux...<BR>><BR>> I=3D20
> > think Tom was asking if there was a "3.0" version of the =
EDS card=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>that needed<BR>> to be connected to the =
master. =3D
> >The answer=3D20
> > to that would be no.=3D3D20<BR>> Is this what you were =
asking=3D20
> > Tom?<BR>> DJ's advice is very important though. I would =
do =3D
> >it, if you=3D20
> > haven't =3D3D<BR>>already.<BR>> I don't want to sound =
like a =3D
> >"RTFM"=3D20
> > kind of guy, but the Paris =3D
> >manual<BR>=3D3D<BR>>describes<BR>> this=3D20
> > procedure pretty well.<BR>> It's on page 4 and 5 of the =
3.0=3D20
> > version.<BR>> It kind of sounds to me like you may not =
be =3D
> >hooking up=3D20
> > the correct eds<BR>=3D3D<BR>>card<BR>> to the =
master=3D20
> > mec.<BR>> Rod<BR>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ =3D
> >dot _=3D20
> > net> wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> =3D20
> > ><BR>> > "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> > =
href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>> wrote =
=3D
> >in message=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>> >news:46972376@linux...<BR>> =3D
> >> This is=3D20
> > really a novice oriented question but . . .<BR>> > =3D
> >It=3D20
> > doesn't matter which card is the "A" card<BR>> > in =3D
> >your=3D20
> > system as far as Paris' ID orientation right?<BR>> =3D
> >><BR>> =3D20
> > > Yes, it does, and the orientation of the slots you are =
=3D
> >using in=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>> >combination with the orientation of the =
ribbon =3D
> >cables=3D20
> > will determine<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >this. Have you =
=3D
> >changed them=3D20
> > around during your reconfiguration?<BR>> ><BR>> =3D20
> > > Start with a new SCSI cable and a single EDS card. =
Test =3D
> >each MEC.=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>Once<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>> >you know if =3D
> >there is a=3D20
> > problem there, add a new SCSI cable and =
=3D3D<BR>>another =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >card. Put different modules in the MECs so you can see =
which one =3D
> >is=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>on =3D3D3D<BR>> >card A, B, C at all times. =
this =3D
> >will give=3D20
> > you the info as to how the<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =
>cards =3D
> >are=3D20
> > initializing and which card is card A, B, C as you =
start=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >adding more hardware. the MEC i =
=3D
> >sent you is one=3D20
> > of 4 that were =3D3D<BR>>working =3D3D3D<BR>> >perfectly =
=3D
> >when I took my=3D20
> > system off line. I can't imagine it being =3D
> >a<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >problem. Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious =
issue though.=3D20
> > Your<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >system will not function =
=3D
> >with bad SCSI=3D20
> > cables.<BR>> ><BR>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC=3D20
> > "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"><BR>> =3D20
> > ><HTML><HEAD><BR>> ><META=3D20
> > http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type =
content=3D3D3D3D"text/html; =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >charset=3D3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>> ><META =3D
> >content=3D3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20
> > 6.00.6000.16414" name=3D3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>> =3D20
> > ><STYLE></STYLE><BR>> =3D
> >></HEAD><BR>> =3D20
> > ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>> =3D
> >><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> > dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
>style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =3D
> >0px;=3D20
> > PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: =3D
> >0px"><BR>> =3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
> >size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20
> > </DIV><BR>> > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl"=3D20
> > <<A=3D3D3D20<BR>> > href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arp=
egi=3D
> >o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>wrote =3D3D3D<BR>> >in =3D
> >message=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D20
> > <A href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:469=
723=3D
> >76@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=3D
> >p;=3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>This =3D
> >is really a=3D20
> > novice =3D3D<BR>>oriented =3D3D3D<BR>> >question but =
..=3D20
> > .=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D
> >.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>It =3D
> >doesn't matter=3D20
> > which card =3D3D<BR>>is the =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >>"A"=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > card</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>in your =
system as =3D
> >far as=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>Paris' ID =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >>orientation=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > right?</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20
> > </DIV><BR>> > <DIV><BR>> =3D
> >> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Yes, it =
does, and =3D
> >the=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>orientation of<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>> >the=3D20
> > slots=3D3D3D20<BR>> > you are using in combination =3D
> >with the=3D20
> > orientation of the =3D3D<BR>>ribbon=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D
> >cables will=3D20
> > determine this. Have you changed them around during =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >your=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D20
> > reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20
> > </DIV><BR>> > <DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2>Start with a new SCSI cable =3D3D<BR>>and =
a =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >single EDS=3D3D3D20<BR>> > card. Test each MEC. =3D
> >Once you=3D20
> > know if there is a problem there, =
add<BR>=3D3D<BR>>a<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>> >new SCSI=3D3D3D20<BR>> > cable =3D
> >and another=3D20
> > card. Put different modules in the MECs so you =
=3D3D<BR>>can =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >see which=3D3D3D20<BR>> > one is on card A, B, C =3D
> >at all=3D20
> > times. this will give you the info =
=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >>as=3D20
> > to=3D3D3D20<BR>> > how the cards are initializing and =
=3D
> >which card=3D20
> > is card A, B, C as =3D3D<BR>>you =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >>start=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 =
that =3D
> >were=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>working<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >><BR>> > =3D20
> > perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't =
imagine it=3D20
> > being<BR>=3D3D<BR>>a =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >>problem.=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue =
though. =3D
> >Your=3D20
> > system<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >will =3D
> >not=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > function with bad SCSI =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> >>cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></B=3D
> >ODY></HTML><BR>> =3D20
> > ><BR>> ><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>I choose =3D
> >Polesoft=3D20
> > Lockspam to fight spam, and=3D20
> > you?<BR>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =3D20
> > <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML =
4.0=3D20
> > Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=3D20
> > http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type =
content=3D3D3D"text/html;=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =3D
> >content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20
> > 6.00.2800.1400"=3D20
> > =3D
> >name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=3D
> >D><BR>><BODY=3D20
> > bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > =3D
> >size=3D3D3D2>Guys,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'm all set with the =
cables and the =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>which=3D20
> > card is =3D
> >A=3D3D20<BR>>bit.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Rod you were right about =
what I=3D20
> > =3D
> >was=3D3D20<BR>>asking.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FO=3D
> >NT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D
> ></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>In any event I scaled down =
to one EDS=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>(Pretty sure=3D3D20<BR>>that's card A=3D20
> > right?!!!)</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>and plugged it into each of my two=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>working=3D3D20<BR>>Mecs. Paris will boot=3D20
> > but</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =3D
> >
> > size=3D3D3D2>even internal clock was never found =3D
> >nor<BR>=3D3D<BR>>were=3D20
> > the=3D3D20<BR>>in/outs on each=3D20
> > Mec.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>The 442 on the other hand works like =3D
> >a<BR>=3D3D<BR>>champ=3D20
> > one=3D3D20<BR>>card only. I=3D20
> > suspect</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>either all my Mecs are screwy now or =
=3D3D<BR>>the=3D20
> > SCSI=3D3D20<BR>>cables are intermitant at=3D20
> > best.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>It's working fine with the 442 so I'm =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>sticking=3D20
> > with=3D3D20<BR>>that for=3D20
> > today.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>I'll add my EDS cards one by one and =
=3D3D<BR>>see if =3D
> >that=3D20
> > is=3D3D20<BR>>back to=3D20
> > normal.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>Thanks for the help and if I need =3D
> >scsi<BR>=3D3D<BR>>cables=3D20
> > what=3D3D20<BR>>and where to buy them would be good =
info=3D20
> > too.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>Mr=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>Testy</FONT></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D=3D
> >3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=3D20
> > 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
=3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: =3D
> >#000000 2px=3D20
> > solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Rod Lincoln"=3D20
> > <<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A=
>&a=3D
> =
>mp;g'>mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</=3D
> >A>&g</A>=3D3D<BR>>t;=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > wrote in message <A=3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D'news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>I=
'>n=3D
> =
>ews:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV>&l=3D
> >t;BR>I</A><BR>=3D3D<BR>>think=3D20
> > Tom=3D3D20<BR>> was asking if there was a "3.0" version =
of the =3D
> >EDS card=3D20
> > that =3D3D<BR>>needed<BR>to be=3D3D20<BR>> connected to =
=3D
> >the master.=3D20
> > The answer to that would be no. <BR>Is this =
=3D3D<BR>>what=3D20
> > you=3D3D20<BR>> were asking Tom?<BR>DJ's advice is very =
=3D
> >important=3D20
> > though. I would do =3D3D<BR>>it, if=3D3D20<BR>> you =
haven't=3D20
> > already.<BR>I don't want to sound like a "RTFM" kind of =
=3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>guy,=3D20
> > but=3D3D20<BR>> the Paris manual describes<BR>this =3D
> >procedure pretty=3D20
> > well.<BR>It's on =3D3D<BR>>page 4=3D3D20<BR>> and 5 of =
=3D
> >the 3.0=3D20
> > version.<BR>It kind of sounds to me like you may=3D20
> > not<BR>=3D3D<BR>>be=3D3D20<BR>> hooking up the correct =
eds=3D20
> > card<BR>to the master =3D
> >mec.<BR>Rod<BR>"DJ"=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> "Tom =3D
> >Bruhl"=3D20
> > <<A=3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arp=
egi=3D
> >o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D20
> > wrote =3D3D<BR>>in message=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>news:46972376@linux...<BR>> This is really =
=3D
> >a=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>novice oriented=3D3D20<BR>> question but . . =
=3D
> >.<BR>> It=3D20
> > doesn't matter which card is the =
=3D3D<BR>>"A"=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > card<BR>> in your system as far as Paris' ID=3D20
> > orientation=3D3D20<BR>> right?<BR>><BR>> Yes, =3D
> >it does,=3D20
> > and the orientation of the =3D3D<BR>>slots=3D3D20<BR>> =
you are =3D
> >using in=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>combination with the orientation of the=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>ribbon=3D3D20<BR>> cables will determine =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>this.=3D20
> > Have you changed them around =3D3D<BR>>during =
your=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >
> > reconfiguration?<BR>><BR>> Start with a new SCSI =3D
> >cable and=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>a=3D3D20<BR>> single EDS card. Test each =
MEC.=3D20
> > Once<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>you know if there =3D3D<BR>>is=3D20
> > a=3D3D20<BR>> problem there, add a new SCSI cable and =
another=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>card. Put =3D3D<BR>>different=3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D
> >modules in the=3D20
> > MECs so you can see which one is on =3D3D3D<BR>>card A, =
=3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>B, C=3D20
> > at=3D3D20<BR>> all times. this will give you the info as =
to how =3D
> >the=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>cards =3D3D<BR>>are=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >initializing and which=3D20
> > card is card A, B, C as you start =
=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>adding =3D
> >
> > more=3D3D20<BR>> hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of =
4 that =3D
> >were=3D20
> > working =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>perfectly=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >when I took my=3D20
> > system off line. I can't imagine it being a=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D20<BR>> Bent pins on =
=3D
> >SCSI cables=3D20
> > can be a serious issue though. Your=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>system=3D3D20<BR>> will not =3D
> >function with bad=3D20
> > SCSI cables.<BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>HTML=3D3D20<BR>> PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML =3D
> >4.0=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> >Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>>=3D
> ><META=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type =3D
> >content=3D3D3D3D"text/html;=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =3D
> >
> > =3D3D<BR>>content=3D3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > 6.00.6000.16414"=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>name=3D3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE&=3D
> >gt;<BR>></HEA=3D3D<BR>>D><BR>><BODY=3D3D20<BR>&=3D
> >gt; =3D20
> > =3D
> >bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >
> > =
dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; =3D
> >PADDING-LEFT:=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>5px;=3D3D20<BR>> MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT:=3D20
> > #000000 2px solid; =3D3D<BR>>MARGIN-RIGHT:=3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D20
> > 0px"><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D
> ><DIV>"Tom=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>Bruhl"=3D3D20<BR>> <<A=3D3D3D20<BR>>=3D20
> > href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> =
>=3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net&l=3D=
> =
>t;/A'>mailto:arpegi=3D3D<BR>>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net<=3D
> >;/A</A>>>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > wrote =3D3D3D<BR>>in message=3D3D3D20<BR>> <A=3D20
> > href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> =
>=3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>=3D
> =
>;...</DIV'>news:469723=3D3D<BR>>76@linux">news:46972376@linux&l=3D
> >t;/A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=3D3D<BR>>p;=3D3D20=3D
> ><BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>This is =
really a=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>novice oriented=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>question but .=3D20
> > .=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > .</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =
size=3D3D3D3D2>It =3D
> >doesn't matter which=3D20
> > card is the =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>"A"=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > card</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =
size=3D3D3D3D2>in your =3D
> >system as far=3D20
> > as Paris' ID=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>orientation=3D3D3D20<BR>>=3D20
> > =3D3D20<BR>> right?</FONT></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> > <DIV><FONT =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>>=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>><DIV><BR>> =3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> ><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, and =
the=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>orientation=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >of<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>the=3D20
> > slots=3D3D3D20<BR>> you are using in =
=3D3D<BR>>combination=3D20
> > with=3D3D20<BR>> the orientation of the =3D
> >ribbon=3D3D3D20<BR>> cables=3D20
> > will determine =3D3D<BR>>this.=3D3D20<BR>> Have you =
changed =3D
> >them around=3D20
> > during =3D3D3D<BR>>your=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>><BR>> =3D20
> > reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Start with =
a new =3D
> >SCSI=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>cable and a=3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D3D3D<BR>>single=3D20
> > EDS=3D3D3D20<BR>> card. Test each MEC. Once you =
=3D3D<BR>>know =3D
> >
> > if=3D3D20<BR>> there is a problem there, add=3D20
> > a<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>new =3D3D<BR>>SCSI=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >
> > cable=3D3D20<BR>> and another card. Put different =
modules in =3D
> >the MECs so=3D20
> > you can =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>see=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > which=3D3D3D20<BR>> one is on card A, B, C at all times. =
this=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>will give you=3D3D20<BR>> the info =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>as=3D20
> > to=3D3D3D20<BR>> how the cards are =
=3D3D<BR>>initializing=3D20
> > and=3D3D20<BR>> which card is card A, B, C as you=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>start=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>adding=3D20
> > more=3D3D20<BR>> hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of =
4 that=3D20
> > were=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >working<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>><BR>>=3D20
> > perfectly when I took my system =3D3D<BR>>off line. =3D
> >I=3D3D20<BR>> can't=3D20
> > imagine it being a =3D3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D
> >Bent=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>pins on SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> cables can be a =
serious =3D
> >issue though.=3D20
> > Your system =3D3D3D<BR>>will=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >not=3D3D3D20<BR>>=3D20
> > function with bad SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV>=3D
> >;</BLOCKQUOTE>=3D3D<BR>>;</BODY></HTML><BR>>&=3D
> >lt;BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
=3D
> >spam,=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>=3D3D<BR>>and=3D3D20<BR>>you?<BR><A=3D3D20<BR>>href=3D3D3D "<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
fer=3D
> =
>'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=3D=
> >>=3D3D<BR>>.html</A>=3D20
> > =3D
> ></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML><BR>><BR>><BR></=3D
> >BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> >
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Aaron,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hyperthreading is off. I'll =
double check=20
though. I'd love to save the money</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>on those scsi cables.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What do you think about Deoxit in the =
female scsi=20
jacks?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Aaron Allen" <<A=20
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wrote in=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This might be flogging =
the rented and=20
dead mule, but you did verify that dual core was off in this =
equation,=20
and hadn't been flipped back on by a gremlin?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><BR>AA</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A =
href=3D"news:469ad5e8@linux">news:469ad5e8@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ya Jeff,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>At least half the times no C-16 was =
attached.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Do you think that a bad C-16 cable =
could cause=20
these issues?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll remove them from the setup =
until all is=20
well.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I know at least a few =
times it worked=20
that the C-16 did also.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Jeff Hoover" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:4699b378@linux">news:4699b378@linux</A>...</DIV>Tom,<BR><BR>=
Stupid=20
question, but did you ever start up without any c16's? If so =
did=20
<BR>you see the same issue?<BR><BR>Jeff<BR><BR><BR>Bruhl =
wrote:<BR>>=20
Rod,<BR>> I am working from a clone that was totally good with=20
two<BR>> fully loaded Mecs. I have to assume the drivers =
are=20
good.<BR>> I'm looking for a good vendor for SCSI cables =
now.<BR>>=20
They're called SCSI 2 right?<BR>> <A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.m2cables.com/SCSI2toSCSI2CablesHDB50MtoML6.html">http:=
//www.m2cables.com/SCSI2toSCSI2CablesHDB50MtoML6.html</A><BR >> =20
<BR>> I'm thinking of cleaning the female jacks on the mec and =
EDS to=20
be<BR>> sure all is well. Any sprays anyone =
suggests? I've=20
got Deoxit.<BR>> Good?<BR>> Tom<BR>>=20
<BR>> "Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A><B=
R>> =20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.co=
m</A>>>=20
wrote in message<BR>> <A=20
=
href=3D"news:4697f7e2$1@linux">news:4697f7e2$1@linux</A>...<BR>>=20
<BR>> Tom, sounds like it probably is a =
scsi=20
issue. Your running xp right?<BR>> The=20
new<BR>> Scherzo drivers are for xp =
verses 98=20
not for 3.0 verses 2.x<BR>> Come to =
think of=20
it. you probably whoudn't have had any old=20
drivers<BR>> on=20
your<BR>> xp sys drive anyway...never=20
mind.<BR>> =
Rod<BR>> =20
"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A> <<A =
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">mailto:arpegio@comcast.net</A>>>=
;=20
wrote:<BR> > =2 0
><BR> > =2 0
><BR>> >Hey=20
Rod,<BR>> >Hiding the default =
project=20
didn't help anything. I've=20
never<BR>> >had 2.?? installed =
on this=20
comp so I think I'm safe there=20
regarding<BR> > =2 0
>drivers.<BR> > =2 0
><BR>> >I am only able to=20
intermitantly get the 442 working as the=20
master.<BR>> >I think that's =
do to the=20
scsi cable issue. I need four new=20
ones.<BR>> >I am unable to get =
more=20
than one EDS card working WITH the=20
442.<BR>> >Not sure why. =
The=20
ribbons are all wired =
correctly.<BR> > =2 0
><BR>> >I'm off to a =
hellish=20
gigging weekend. No more time for hell in=20
Paris.<BR>> >Thanks for all =
your=20
input,<BR> > =2 0
>Tom<BR>> > "Rod =
Lincoln"=20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A><B=
R>> =20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.co=
m</A>>>=20
wrote in message =3D<BR> > =2 0
>news:4697ab8a@linux...<BR> > =2 0
><BR>> > Did you try =
hiding=20
the default ppj to see if it would boot =
up<BR>> =20
with a =3D<BR>> >MEC=20
when<BR>> > creating a =
new=20
session?=3D20<BR>> > =20
Rod<BR>> > "Tom Bruhl" =
<<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A> <<A =
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">mailto:arpegio@comcast.net</A>>>=
;<BR>> =20
wrote:<BR>> > =20
><BR>> > =20
><BR>> > =20
>Guys,<BR>> > >I'm =
all set=20
with the cables and the which card is A=20
bit.<BR>> > >Rod you =
were=20
right about what I was =
asking.<BR> > =2 0
> ><BR>> > =
>In=20
any event I scaled down to one EDS (Pretty sure that's=20
card<BR>> A=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>right?!!!)<BR>> > =
>and=20
plugged it into each of my two working Mecs. Paris=20
will<BR>> boot=20
but<BR>> > >even =
internal=20
clock was never found nor were the in/outs=20
on<BR>> each=20
Mec.<BR>> > >The 442 =
on the=20
other hand works like a champ one card only. I=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>suspect<BR>> > =
>either=20
all my Mecs are screwy now or the SCSI cables=20
are<BR>> =20
intermitant<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>at<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>best.<BR>> > =
>It's=20
working fine with the 442 so I'm sticking with that for=20
today.<BR>> > >I'll =
add my=20
EDS cards one by one and see if that is back to=20
normal.<BR>> > =20
><BR>> > >Thanks =
for the=20
help and if I need scsi cables what and where=20
to<BR>> buy=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>them<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > >would =
be good=20
info too.<BR>> > >Mr=20
Testy<BR>> > > =
"Rod=20
Lincoln" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A><B=
R>> =20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.co=
m</A>>>=20
wrote in message =3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
>news:469780ce$1@linux...<BR>> =
> ><BR>> > =20
> I think Tom was asking if there was a "3.0" version of=20
the<BR>> EDS=20
card<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =
>that=20
needed<BR>> > > =
to be=20
connected to the master. The answer to that would=20
be<BR>> =20
no.=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> Is=20
this what you were asking =
Tom?<BR> > =2 0
> > DJ's advice is very important though. I =
would do it,=20
if you<BR>> =20
haven't<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>already.<BR>> > =
> I=20
don't want to sound like a "RTFM" kind of guy, but the Paris=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>manual<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>describes<BR>> > =
> =20
this procedure pretty well.<BR> > =2 0
> > It's on page 4 and 5 of the 3.0=20
version.<BR>> > =
> It=20
kind of sounds to me like you may not be hooking up=20
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=3D<BR> > =2 0
>eds<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
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> to=20
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> Rod<BR>> > =
> =20
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net>=20
wrote:<BR>> > > =
><BR>> > > =20
><BR>> > > =20
><BR>> > > =20
> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A><BR>> =
=20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">mailto:arpegio@comcast.net</A>>>=
;=20
wrote in message =3D3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
> =20
>news:46972376@linux...<BR> > =2 0
> > > This is really a novice oriented =
question=20
but . . .<BR>> > =
> =20
> It doesn't matter which card is the "A"=20
card<BR>> > > =20
> in your system as far as Paris' ID orientation=20
right?<BR>> > > =
><BR>> > > =20
> Yes, it does, and the orientation of the slots you=20
are<BR>> using=20
in<BR>> =
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>combination with the orientation of the ribbon cables will=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
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=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>this. Have you changed them around during your=20
reconfiguration?<BR>> > =20
> ><BR>> > =20
> > Start with a new SCSI cable and a single EDS =
card.=20
Test each =3D<BR>> >MEC.=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>Once<BR>> > =
> =20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> >you=20
know if there is a problem there, add a new SCSI=20
cable<BR>> and=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >another =
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>card. Put different modules in the MECs so you can see=20
which<BR>> one=20
=3D<BR>> >is=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >on=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> >card=20
A, B, C at all times. this will give you the info as=20
to<BR>> how=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>the<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>cards are initializing and which card is card A, B, C as=20
you<BR>> =
start<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4=20
that<BR>> were=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >working =
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't imagine=20
it<BR>> =
being<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>a<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>problem. Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious=20
issue<BR>> though.=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>Your<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
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<<A=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> > <BR>> href=3D3D3D3D"<A=20
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=20
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and<BR>> the=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
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>orientation=20
of<BR>> > > =20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
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> =20
> you are using in combination with the orientation of =
the=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>ribbon=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> > cables will determine this. Have you changed =
them=20
around<BR>> =20
during<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>your=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =
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reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR >> =
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> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>Start with=20
a new<BR>> SCSI=20
=3D<BR>> >cable=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >and a=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>single EDS=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> > card. Test each MEC. Once you know if there =
is a=20
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there,<BR>> =20
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>add<BR>> > =20
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>a<BR>> > > =20
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> >new=20
SCSI=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =
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> cable and another card. Put different modules in the=20
MECs<BR>> so=20
you<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > >can =
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> >see=20
which=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
> one is on card A, B, C at all times. this will give=20
you<BR>> the=20
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> =20
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card A,<BR>> B, C=20
as<BR>> =
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > >you =
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>start=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> > adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is =
one of 4=20
that<BR>> were=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
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>working<BR>> > =
> =20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
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> perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't =
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> =20
>problem.=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
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> > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious =
issue=20
though. Your =3D<BR> > =2 0
>system<BR>> > =20
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> =20
>will not=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
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=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
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>cables.</FONT></DIV>& ;lt;/DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></B=
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> > ><BR> > =2 0
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> ><BR>> > =20
><BR>> > =20
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Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and=20
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>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
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><BR>> > =
><!DOCTYPE=20
HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
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> =20
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><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
=
size=3D3D3D2>Guys,</FONT></DIV&a mp;gt; <BR>> &=
nbsp; =20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>I'm all=20
set with the<BR>> cables=20
and<BR>> =20
=3D<BR>> >the=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >which =
card is=20
A=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
=
>bit.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>Rod you=20
were right about<BR>> what=20
I<BR>> =
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>was=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
=
>asking.</FONT></DIV><BR >>  =
;=20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> > =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>In any =
event I scaled=20
down<BR>> to=20
=3D<BR>> >one EDS=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >(Pretty =
sure=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>that's card=20
A=20
=
right?!!!)</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
=20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>and=20
plugged it into each<BR>> of my=20
=3D<BR>> >two=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>working=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
>Mecs. Paris will boot=20
but</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>even=20
internal clock was<BR>> never=20
=3D<BR>> >found=20
nor<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > >were=20
the=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>in/outs on=20
each =
Mec.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>The 442 on=20
the other hand<BR>> =20
works<BR>> =20
=3D<BR>> >like=20
a<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > >champ=20
one=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>card only. I=20
=
suspect</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>either all=20
my Mecs are<BR>> screwy=20
=3D<BR>> >now or=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >the=20
SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>cables are=20
intermitant at=20
=
best.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>It's=20
working fine with the<BR>> 442=20
=3D<BR>> >so I'm=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>sticking=20
with=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>that for=20
=
today.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>I'll add=20
my EDS cards one<BR>> by=20
one<BR>> =20
=3D<BR>> >and=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >see if =
that=20
is=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>back to=20
=
normal.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> > =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Thanks =
for the help=20
and if I =3D<BR>> >need=20
scsi<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > >cables=20
what=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>and where=20
to buy them would be good info=20
=
too.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>Mr=20
=
Testy</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> =
><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20<BR> > =2 0
> >style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; =
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0px"><BR>> > =
> =20
<DIV>"Rod Lincoln"=20
<<A=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
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href=3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A'>m=
ailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A</A><B=
R>> =20
<<A=20
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href=3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A'>m=
ailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A</A>&g=
t;=3D<BR> > =2 0
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> =20
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wrote in message =
<A=3D3D20<BR> > =2 0
> > =3D<BR> > =2 0
>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
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href=3D'news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>I'>n=
ews:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV>&l=
t;BR>I</A><BR>> =20
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href=3D'news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>I'>n=
ews:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV>&l=
t;BR>I</A>><BR> > =2 0
> =3D3D<BR>> > =
>think=20
Tom=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> was=20
asking if there was a "3.0" version of the EDS card that=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>needed<BR>to =
be=3D3D20<BR> > =2 0
> > connected to the master. The answer to that =
would be=20
no. <BR>Is =3D<BR>> =
>this=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >what=20
you=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> were=20
asking Tom?<BR>DJ's advice is very important though.=20
I<BR>> would=20
=3D<BR>> >do=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >it,=20
if=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> you=20
haven't already.<BR>I don't want to sound like a=20
"RTFM"<BR>> kind=20
of<BR>> =
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =
>guy,=20
but=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> the=20
Paris manual describes<BR>this procedure=20
pretty<BR>> well.<BR>It's=20
=3D<BR>> >on=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >page=20
4=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> and 5=20
of the 3.0 version.<BR>It kind of sounds to me like=20
you<BR>> may=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>not<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>be=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
hooking up the correct eds card<BR>to the master=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
=
>mec.<BR>Rod<BR>"DJ"=3D3D20 <BR>>  =
; =20
> > <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _=20
net>=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
wrote:<BR>><BR>>&a mp;lt;BR>><BR>> =
"Tom Bruhl"=20
<<A=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A><BR>> =
=20
<<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>>=20
=3D<BR>> >wrote=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >in=20
message=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
=3D3D3D<BR>>news:46972376@linux...<BR>> This is =
really a=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >novice=20
oriented=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
question but . . .<BR>> It doesn't matter which card is =
the=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>"A"=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
card<BR>> in your system as far as Paris' ID=20
orientation=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> right?<BR>><BR>> Yes, it does, and =
the=20
orientation of the =3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
>slots=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
you are using in =3D3D3D<BR>>combination with the=20
orientation<BR>> of=20
the<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>ribbon=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> cables will determine =3D3D3D<BR>>this. Have =
you changed=20
them<BR>> =20
around<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =
>during=20
your=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
reconfiguration?<BR>><BR> > Start with a new SCSI =
cable=20
and =3D3D<BR>> > =20
>a=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
single EDS card. Test each MEC. =
Once<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>you know=20
if<BR>> =
there<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > >is=20
a=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> problem=20
there, add a new SCSI cable and =
another<BR>> =20
=3D3D3D<BR>>card. Put<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>different=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> modules in the MECs so you can see which one is=20
on<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>>card=20
=3D<BR>> >A,=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >B, C=20
at=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> all=20
times. this will give you the info as to how the=20
=3D<BR>> =
>=3D3D3D<BR>>cards=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>are=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
initializing and which card is card A, B, C as you start=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>>adding=20
more=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were working=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
=
>=3D3D3D<BR>>perfectly=3D3D20<BR >> =
=20
> > when I took my system off line. I can't =
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>=3D3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D20<BR >> &=
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> =20
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=
>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D3D20<=
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> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
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>novice=20
oriented=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
=3D3D3D<BR>>question but . .=3D3D3D20<BR>>=20
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=3D3D<BR>> > =20
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> =20
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=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
card</FONT></DIV><BR& gt;> <DIV><FONT=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
=
>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> size=3D3D3D3D2>in your system as far as Paris'=20
ID=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
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> =20
right?</FONT></DIV><BR&am p;gt;> <DIV><FONT=20
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> =20
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=3D3D20<BR> > =2 0
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, =
and<BR>> the=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>orientation=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> of<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>the =
slots=3D3D3D20<BR>>=20
you are using in =3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
>combination with=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> the orientation of the ribbon=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
cables=20
will<BR>> determine=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>this.=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
Have you changed them around =
during<BR>> =20
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=3D3D<BR>> > =20
><BR>> > > =20
reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV>&am p;lt;BR>>=20
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=
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=3D3D20<BR> > =2 0
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>Start with a new<BR>> =
SCSI=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >cable =
and=20
a=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
=3D3D3D<BR>>single EDS=3D3D3D20<BR>> card. Test =
each MEC.=20
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=3D3D<BR>> > >know=20
if=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> there=20
is a problem there, add a<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>new=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>SCSI=3D3D3D20<BR>>=20
cable=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> and=20
another card. Put different modules in the MECs so=20
you<BR>> can=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
=
>=3D3D3D<BR>>see=3D3D20<BR>> =
=20
> > which=3D3D3D20<BR>> one is on card =
A, B, C at=20
all times. this =3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
>will give you=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> the info =3D3D3D<BR>>as =
to=3D3D3D20<BR>> how the=20
cards are =3D3D<BR>> > =20
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> =20
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><BR> > =2 0
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><BR>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML =
PUBLIC=20
"-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
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><HTML><HEAD><BR>> =
><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
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>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR> > =2 0
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><STYLE></STYLE><BR> > =2 0
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><BODY=20
bgColor=3D3D#ffffff><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hey=20
=
Rod,</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hiding the =
default=20
project didn't<BR>> =20
help=3D20<BR>> >anything. I've =
=
never</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>had 2.?? =
installed on=20
this comp<BR>> so I=20
=3D<BR>> >think I'm=20
safe=3D20<BR>> >there=20
=
regarding</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
=
size=3D3D2>drivers.</FONT></DIV& amp;gt; <BR>> =
=20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am only able to=20
intermitantly<BR>> get=20
the<BR>> =20
=3D<BR>> >442=20
working=3D20<BR>> >as the=20
=
master.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I think =
that's do to the=20
scsi cable =3D<BR>> >issue.=20
I=3D20<BR>> >need four new=20
=
ones.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am unable =
to get more=20
than one<BR>> EDS=20
=3D<BR>> >card=20
working=3D20<BR>> >WITH the=20
=
442.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Not sure why. =
The ribbons=20
are all =3D<BR> > =2 0
>wired=3D20<BR> > =2 0
=
>correctly.</FONT></DIV><BR >> &n=
bsp;=20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm off to a hellish gigging=20
=3D<BR>> >weekend. No=20
more=3D20<BR>> >time for hell =
in=20
=
Paris.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks for =
all=20
your<BR>> =20
=
input,</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
=
size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV&g t; <BR>>  =
; =20
><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR> > =2 0
>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px;=20
=3D<BR>> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 =
2px=20
solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
0px"><BR> > =2 0
> <DIV>"Rod Lincoln"=20
<<A=3D20<BR>> > =20
=3D<BR>> >href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&a=
mp;g'>mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</=
A>&g</A><BR>> =20
<<A=20
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href=3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&a=
mp;g'>mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</=
A>&g</A>>=3D<BR> > =2 0
>t;=3D20<BR>> > wrote =
in=20
message <A=3D20<BR>> >=20
<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:4697ab8a@linux">news:4697ab8a@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Did'>new=
s:4697ab8a@linux">news:4697ab8a@linux</A>...</DIV><BR&g=
t;Did</A><BR>> =20
<<A=20
=
href=3D'news:4697ab8a@linux">news:4697ab8a@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Did'>new=
s:4697ab8a@linux">news:4697ab8a@linux</A>...</DIV><BR&g=
t;Did</A>>=20
=3D<BR>> >you=20
try=3D20<BR>> > hiding =
the default=20
ppj to see if it would boot up with a MEC=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
=
>when<BR>creating=3D20<BR> > =2 0
> a new session? <BR>Rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl"=20
<<A=3D20<BR>> > =
href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto=
:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20</A><BR>&g=
t; =20
<<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto=
:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20</A>><B=
R> > =2 0
> =20
=
wrote:<BR>><BR>>&a mp;lt;BR>>Guys,<BR>>I'm =
all=20
set with the cables =3D<BR>> =
>and=20
the=3D20<BR>> > which =
card is A=20
bit.<BR>>Rod you were right about what I=20
was=3D20<BR>> > =20
asking.<BR>><BR>>I n any event I scaled down to =
one EDS=20
(Pretty =3D<BR> > =2 0
>sure=3D20<BR>> > =
that's card A=20
=3D3D<BR>>right?!!!)<BR>& amp;gt;and plugged it into =
each of=20
=3D<BR>> >my=20
two=3D20<BR>> > working =
Mecs.=20
Paris will boot but<BR>>even internal clock was=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>never=3D20<BR>> > =
found nor=20
were the in/outs on each Mec.<BR>>The 442 on the other=20
=3D<BR>> >hand=20
works=3D20<BR>> > like a =
champ one=20
card only. I suspect<BR>>either all my Mecs=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>are=3D20<BR>> > =
screwy now or=20
the SCSI cables are intermitant =
=3D<BR> > =2 0
=
>at<BR>=3D3D<BR>>b est.<BR>>It's=3D20 <BR>>&n=
bsp; =20
> working fine with the 442 so I'm sticking with that for =
=3D<BR>> =
>today.<BR>>I'll=20
add=3D20<BR>> > my EDS =
cards one=20
by one and see if that is back =
to=3D20<BR> > =2 0
> normal.<BR>><BR>>T hanks for the help =
and if I=20
need scsi cables =3D<BR>> =
>what=20
and=3D20<BR>> > where to =
buy=20
them<BR>=3D3D<BR>>would be good info=20
too.<BR>>Mr=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
Testy<BR>> "Rod Lincoln"=20
<<A=3D20<BR>> > =20
=3D<BR>> >href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&a=
mp;g'>mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</=
A>&g</A><BR>> =20
<<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&a=
mp;g'>mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</=
A>&g</A>>=3D<BR> > =2 0
>t;=3D20<BR>> > wrote =
in=20
message =3D<BR> > =2 0
=
>=3D3D<BR>>news:469780ce$1@linux...<BR>><BR>&g=
t;=20
I=3D20<BR>> > think Tom =
was asking=20
if there was a "3.0" version of the EDS=20
card=3D20<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>>that needed<BR>> to be connected to =
the master.=20
=3D<BR>> >The=20
answer=3D20<BR>> > to =
that would=20
be no.=3D3D20<BR>> Is this what you were=20
asking=3D20<BR>> > =20
Tom?<BR>> DJ's advice is very important though. I would =
do=20
=3D<BR>> >it, if=20
you=3D20<BR>> > haven't=20
=3D3D<BR>>already.<BR>&am p;gt; I don't want to sound =
like a=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>"RTFM"=3D20<BR>> > =
kind of=20
guy, but the Paris =3D<BR> > =2 0
>manual<BR>=3D3D<BR>& gt;describes<BR>>=20
this=3D20<BR>> > =
procedure pretty=20
well.<BR>> It's on page 4 and 5 of the=20
3.0=3D20<BR>> > =20
version.<BR>> It kind of sounds to me like you may not be =
=3D<BR>> >hooking=20
up=3D20<BR>> > the =
correct=20
eds<BR>=3D3D<BR>>card& ;lt;BR>> to the=20
master=3D20<BR>> > =20
mec.<BR>> Rod<BR>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas =
_=20
=3D<BR>> >dot=20
_=3D20<BR>> > net>=20
wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> > =
><BR>>=20
> "Tom Bruhl" =
<<A=3D20<BR> > =2 0
> href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A><BR>> =
=20
<<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>>=20
wrote =3D<BR>> >in=20
message=3D20<BR>> > =20
=3D3D3D<BR>> >news:46972376@linux...<BR>>=20
=3D<BR>> >> This=20
is=3D20<BR>> > really a =
novice=20
oriented question but . . .<BR>> >=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>It=3D20<BR>> > =
doesn't matter=20
which card is the "A" card<BR>> > in=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>your=3D20<BR>> > =
system as far=20
as Paris' ID orientation right?<BR>>=20
=3D<BR>> >><BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> > > Yes, =
it does,=20
and the orientation of the slots you are=20
=3D<BR>> >using=20
in=3D20<BR>> > =
=3D3D3D<BR>>=20
>combination with the orientation of the ribbon=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>cables=3D20<BR>> > =
will=20
determine<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3 D3D3D<BR>> =
>this. Have you=20
=3D<BR>> >changed=20
them=3D20<BR>> > around =
during=20
your reconfiguration?<BR>> ><BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> > > Start =
with a new=20
SCSI cable and a single EDS card. Test=20
=3D<BR>> >each=20
MEC.=3D20<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>>Once<BR>> ; =3D3D3D<BR>> =
>you know if=20
=3D<BR>> >there is=20
a=3D20<BR>> > problem =
there, add a=20
new SCSI cable and =3D3D<BR>>another=20
=3D<BR>> =
>=3D3D3D<BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> > >card. =
Put=20
different modules in the MECs so you can see which one=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>is=3D20<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>>on =3D3D3D<BR>> >card A, B, C at =
all times.=20
this =3D<BR>> >will=20
give=3D20<BR>> > you the =
info as=20
to how the<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D& amp;lt;BR>> =
>cards=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>are=3D20<BR>> > =
initializing=20
and which card is card A, B, C as you=20
start=3D20<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>& ;gt; >adding more hardware. =
the MEC i=20
=3D<BR>> >sent you is=20
one=3D20<BR>> > of 4 =
that were=20
=3D3D<BR>>working =3D3D3D<BR>> >perfectly=20
=3D<BR>> >when I took=20
my=3D20<BR>> > system =
off line. I=20
can't imagine it being =3D<BR> > =2 0
>a<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3 D3D3D<BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> > =
>problem. Bent=20
pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue=20
though.=3D20<BR>> > =20
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will not=20
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=3D<BR>> >is really=20
a=3D20<BR>> > novice=20
=3D3D<BR>>oriented =3D3D3D<BR>> >question but =
.=3D20<BR>> > =20
.=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>.</FONT></DIV><BR >>=20
=3D20<BR>> > >=20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>It=20
=3D<BR>> >doesn't=20
matter=3D20<BR>> > which =
card=20
=3D3D<BR>>is the =3D3D3D<BR>>=20
=3D<BR>> =
>>"A"=3D3D3D20<BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> > >=20
card</FONT></DIV><BR& gt;> >=20
=3D20<BR>> > =
<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>in your system as=20
=3D<BR>> >far=20
as=3D20<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>>Paris' ID =3D3D3D<BR>>=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>>orientation=3D3D3D20<BR>&g t;=20
=3D20<BR>> > >=20
right?</FONT></DIV><BR&am p;gt;> >=20
=3D20<BR>> > =
<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
=
size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20<BR>>  =
;=20
> </DIV><BR>> > =
<DIV><BR>>=20
=3D<BR>> >>=20
=3D20<BR>> > =
<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, and=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>the=3D20<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>>orientation of<BR>> =
=3D3D3D<BR>>=20
>the=3D20<BR>> > =20
slots=3D3D3D20<BR>> > you are using in combination=20
=3D<BR>> >with=20
the=3D20<BR>> > =
orientation of the=20
=3D3D<BR>>ribbon=3D3D3D20<BR& ;gt;> >=20
=3D<BR>> >cables=20
will=3D20<BR>> > =
determine this.=20
Have you changed them around during=20
=3D<BR>> =
>=3D3D3D<BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> > =20
>your=3D3D3D20<BR>> >=20
=3D20<BR>> > =20
reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV>&am p;lt;BR>> >=20
=3D20<BR>> > =
<DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
=
size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20<BR>>  =
;=20
> </DIV><BR>> > <DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
size=3D3D3D3D2>Start with a new SCSI cable =
=3D3D<BR>>and a=20
=3D<BR>> =
>=3D3D3D<BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> > >single=20
EDS=3D3D3D20<BR>> > card. Test each MEC.=20
=3D<BR>> >Once=20
you=3D20<BR>> > know if =
there is a=20
problem there, add<BR>=3D3D<BR>>a< ;BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> > =
=3D3D3D<BR>>=20
>new SCSI=3D3D3D20<BR>> > cable=20
=3D<BR>> >and=20
another=3D20<BR>> > =
card. Put=20
different modules in the MECs so you =3D3D<BR>>can=20
=3D<BR>> =
>=3D3D3D<BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> > >see=20
which=3D3D3D20<BR>> > one is on card A, B, C=20
=3D<BR>> >at=20
all=3D20<BR>> > times. =
this will=20
give you the info =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>& ;gt;=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>>as=3D20<BR>> > =20
to=3D3D3D20<BR>> > how the cards are initializing and=20
=3D<BR>> >which=20
card=3D20<BR>> > is card =
A, B, C=20
as =3D3D<BR>>you =3D3D3D<BR>>=20
=3D<BR>> =
>>start=3D3D3D20<BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> > > adding =
more=20
hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that=20
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_ at _=20
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=3D20<BR>> > =20
wrote:<BR>><BR>>&a mp;lt;BR>><BR>> =
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=3D<BR> > =2 0
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message=3D3D20<BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> > =20
=3D3D3D<BR>>news:46972376@linux...<BR>> This is =
really=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>a=3D20<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>>novice oriented=3D3D20<BR>> question =
but . .=20
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matter=20
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> =20
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| Re: Paris hardware troubles won't stop. HELP!!! [message #88201 is a reply to message #88167] |
Mon, 16 July 2007 16:11 |
Aaron Allen
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I don't s'pose it could hurt if they're tarnished. My experiences though =
with the issue your seeing have been bad SCSI cables.=20
Start small, test every little component, unless you've got a bent up =
input pin somewhere (and I'd light them well and magnifying lense them =
all) I'm having a hard time buying that you have 4 dead cables out of =
the blue though, something caused that if it's the case.=20
AA
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:469b74bf@linux...
Aaron,
Hyperthreading is off. I'll double check though. I'd love to save =
the money
on those scsi cables.
What do you think about Deoxit in the female scsi jacks?
Tom
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =
news:469aead6@linux...
This might be flogging the rented and dead mule, but you did verify =
that dual core was off in this equation, and hadn't been flipped back on =
by a gremlin?
AA
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:469ad5e8@linux...
Ya Jeff,
At least half the times no C-16 was attached.
Do you think that a bad C-16 cable could cause these issues?
I'll remove them from the setup until all is well.
I know at least a few times it worked that the C-16 did also.
Tom=20
"Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message =
news:4699b378@linux...
Tom,
Stupid question, but did you ever start up without any c16's? =
If so did=20
you see the same issue?
Jeff
Bruhl wrote:
> Rod,
> I am working from a clone that was totally good with two
> fully loaded Mecs. I have to assume the drivers are good.
> I'm looking for a good vendor for SCSI cables now.
> They're called SCSI 2 right?
> http://www.m2cables.com/SCSI2toSCSI2CablesHDB50MtoML6.html
> =20
> I'm thinking of cleaning the female jacks on the mec and EDS =
to be
> sure all is well. Any sprays anyone suggests? I've got =
Deoxit.
> Good?
> Tom
>=20
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com
> <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com>> wrote in message
> news:4697f7e2$1@linux...
>=20
> Tom, sounds like it probably is a scsi issue. Your running =
xp right?
> The new
> Scherzo drivers are for xp verses 98 not for 3.0 verses =
2.x
> Come to think of it. you probably whoudn't have had any =
old drivers
> on your
> xp sys drive anyway...never mind.
> Rod
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net =
<mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Hey Rod,
> >Hiding the default project didn't help anything. I've =
never
> >had 2.?? installed on this comp so I think I'm safe =
there regarding
> >drivers.
> >
> >I am only able to intermitantly get the 442 working as =
the master.
> >I think that's do to the scsi cable issue. I need four =
new ones.
> >I am unable to get more than one EDS card working WITH =
the 442.
> >Not sure why. The ribbons are all wired correctly.
> >
> >I'm off to a hellish gigging weekend. No more time for =
hell in Paris.
> >Thanks for all your input,
> >Tom
> > "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com
> <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com>> wrote in message =3D
> >news:4697ab8a@linux...
> >
> > Did you try hiding the default ppj to see if it would =
boot up
> with a =3D
> >MEC when
> > creating a new session?=3D20
> > Rod
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net =
<mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >Guys,
> > >I'm all set with the cables and the which card is A =
bit.
> > >Rod you were right about what I was asking.
> > >
> > >In any event I scaled down to one EDS (Pretty sure =
that's card
> A =3D3D
> > >right?!!!)
> > >and plugged it into each of my two working Mecs. =
Paris will
> boot but
> > >even internal clock was never found nor were the =
in/outs on
> each Mec.
> > >The 442 on the other hand works like a champ one card =
only. I =3D
> >suspect
> > >either all my Mecs are screwy now or the SCSI cables =
are
> intermitant
> =3D
> >at
> > =3D3D
> > >best.
> > >It's working fine with the 442 so I'm sticking with =
that for today.
> > >I'll add my EDS cards one by one and see if that is =
back to normal.
> > >
> > >Thanks for the help and if I need scsi cables what =
and where to
> buy =3D
> >them
> > =3D3D
> > >would be good info too.
> > >Mr Testy
> > > "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com
> <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com>> wrote in message =3D3D
> > >news:469780ce$1@linux...
> > >
> > > I think Tom was asking if there was a "3.0" version =
of the
> EDS card
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >that needed
> > > to be connected to the master. The answer to that =
would be
> no.=3D3D20
> > > Is this what you were asking Tom?
> > > DJ's advice is very important though. I would do =
it, if you
> haven't
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >already.
> > > I don't want to sound like a "RTFM" kind of guy, =
but the Paris =3D
> >manual
> > =3D3D
> > >describes
> > > this procedure pretty well.
> > > It's on page 4 and 5 of the 3.0 version.
> > > It kind of sounds to me like you may not be hooking =
up the
> correct
> =3D
> >eds
> > =3D3D
> > >card
> > > to the master mec.
> > > Rod
> > > "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>> wrote in message =3D3D3D
> > > >news:46972376@linux...
> > > > This is really a novice oriented question but . =
.. .
> > > > It doesn't matter which card is the "A" card
> > > > in your system as far as Paris' ID orientation =
right?
> > > >
> > > > Yes, it does, and the orientation of the slots =
you are
> using in
> =3D
> >=3D3D3D
> > > >combination with the orientation of the ribbon =
cables will =3D
> >determine
> > =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >this. Have you changed them around during your =
reconfiguration?
> > > >
> > > > Start with a new SCSI cable and a single EDS =
card. Test each =3D
> >MEC. =3D3D
> > >Once
> > > =3D3D3D
> > > >you know if there is a problem there, add a new =
SCSI cable
> and =3D3D
> > >another =3D3D3D
> > > >card. Put different modules in the MECs so you can =
see which
> one =3D
> >is =3D3D
> > >on =3D3D3D
> > > >card A, B, C at all times. this will give you the =
info as to
> how =3D
> >the
> > =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >cards are initializing and which card is card A, =
B, C as you
> start
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of =
4 that
> were =3D3D
> > >working =3D3D3D
> > > >perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't =
imagine it
> being
> =3D
> >a
> > =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >problem. Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious =
issue
> though. =3D
> >Your
> > =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >system will not function with bad SCSI cables.
> > > >
> > > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 =
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> > > ><HTML><HEAD>
> > > ><META http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type =
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> > > ><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20
> > > >style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: =
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> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D3D20
> > > >=20
> =
href=3D3D3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>>
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >wrote =3D3D3D
> > > >in message=3D3D3D20
> > > > <A =3D
> =
>href=3D3D3D3D"news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV
> <news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV>>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>This is really a
> novice
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >oriented =3D3D3D
> > > >question but . .=3D3D3D20
> > > > .</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>It =
doesn't matter
> which
> =3D
> >card =3D3D
> > >is the =3D3D3D
> > > >"A"=3D3D3D20
> > > > card</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>in =
your system as
> far =3D
> >as =3D3D
> > >Paris' ID =3D3D3D
> > > >orientation=3D3D3D20
> > > > right?</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > > <DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, and
> the =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >orientation of
> > > =3D3D3D
> > > >the slots=3D3D3D20
> > > > you are using in combination with the =
orientation of the =3D3D
> > >ribbon=3D3D3D20
> > > > cables will determine this. Have you changed =
them around
> during
> =3D
> >=3D3D3D
> > > >your=3D3D3D20
> > > > reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>Start with a new
> SCSI =3D
> >cable =3D3D
> > >and a =3D3D3D
> > > >single EDS=3D3D3D20
> > > > card. Test each MEC. Once you know if there is a =
problem
> there,
> =3D
> >add
> > =3D3D
> > >a
> > > =3D3D3D
> > > >new SCSI=3D3D3D20
> > > > cable and another card. Put different modules in =
the MECs
> so you
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >can =3D3D3D
> > > >see which=3D3D3D20
> > > > one is on card A, B, C at all times. this will =
give you
> the info
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >as to=3D3D3D20
> > > > how the cards are initializing and which card is =
card A,
> B, C as
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >you =3D3D3D
> > > >start=3D3D3D20
> > > > adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one =
of 4 that
> were =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >working
> > > =3D3D3D
> > > >
> > > > perfectly when I took my system off line. I =
can't imagine it =3D
> >being
> > =3D3D
> > >a =3D3D3D
> > > >problem.=3D3D3D20
> > > > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue =
though. Your =3D
> >system
> > =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >will not=3D3D3D20
> > > > function with bad SCSI =3D3D3D
> > > =
>cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> > >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =3D20
> > >
> > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 =
Transitional//EN">
> > ><HTML><HEAD>
> > ><META http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type =
content=3D3D3D"text/html; =3D3D
> > >charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1">
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> > ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>Guys,</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'm all set =
with the
> cables and
> =3D
> >the =3D3D
> > >which card is A=3D3D20
> > >bit.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Rod you were =
right about
> what I
> =3D
> >was=3D3D20
> > >asking.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>In any event =
I scaled down
> to =3D
> >one EDS =3D3D
> > >(Pretty sure=3D3D20
> > >that's card A right?!!!)</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>and plugged =
it into each
> of my =3D
> >two =3D3D
> > >working=3D3D20
> > >Mecs. Paris will boot but</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>even =
internal clock was
> never =3D
> >found nor
> > =3D3D
> > >were the=3D3D20
> > >in/outs on each Mec.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>The 442 on =
the other hand
> works
> =3D
> >like a
> > =3D3D
> > >champ one=3D3D20
> > >card only. I suspect</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>either all =
my Mecs are
> screwy =3D
> >now or =3D3D
> > >the SCSI=3D3D20
> > >cables are intermitant at best.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>It's working =
fine with the
> 442 =3D
> >so I'm =3D3D
> > >sticking with=3D3D20
> > >that for today.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'll add my =
EDS cards one
> by one
> =3D
> >and =3D3D
> > >see if that is=3D3D20
> > >back to normal.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Thanks for =
the help and if I =3D
> >need scsi
> > =3D3D
> > >cables what=3D3D20
> > >and where to buy them would be good info =
too.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Mr =
Testy</FONT></DIV>
> > ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20
> > >style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; =
MARGIN-LEFT:
> 5px; =3D
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> > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > > <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com=
</A
> =
<mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>=3D
> >>&g=3D3D
> > >t;=3D3D20
> > > wrote in message <A=3D3D20
> > > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D3D"news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR=
>I
> =
<news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>I>
> > =3D3D
> > >think Tom=3D3D20
> > > was asking if there was a "3.0" version of the EDS =
card that =3D3D
> > >needed<BR>to be=3D3D20
> > > connected to the master. The answer to that would =
be no. <BR>Is =3D
> >this =3D3D
> > >what you=3D3D20
> > > were asking Tom?<BR>DJ's advice is very important =
though. I
> would =3D
> >do =3D3D
> > >it, if=3D3D20
> > > you haven't already.<BR>I don't want to sound like =
a "RTFM"
> kind of
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >guy, but=3D3D20
> > > the Paris manual describes<BR>this procedure pretty
> well.<BR>It's =3D
> >on =3D3D
> > >page 4=3D3D20
> > > and 5 of the 3.0 version.<BR>It kind of sounds to =
me like you
> may =3D
> >not
> > =3D3D
> > >be=3D3D20
> > > hooking up the correct eds card<BR>to the master =
=3D
> >mec.<BR>Rod<BR>"DJ"=3D3D20
> > > <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net>=3D3D20
> > > wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D20
> > > =
href=3D3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>> =3D
> >wrote =3D3D
> > >in message=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D<BR>>news:46972376@linux...<BR>> This is =
really a =3D3D
> > >novice oriented=3D3D20
> > > question but . . .<BR>> It doesn't matter which =
card is the =3D3D
> > >"A"=3D3D20
> > > card<BR>> in your system as far as Paris' ID =
orientation=3D3D20
> > > right?<BR>><BR>> Yes, it does, and the orientation =
of the =3D3D
> > >slots=3D3D20
> > > you are using in =3D3D3D<BR>>combination with the =
orientation
> of the
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >ribbon=3D3D20
> > > cables will determine =3D3D3D<BR>>this. Have you =
changed them
> around
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >during your=3D3D20
> > > reconfiguration?<BR>><BR>> Start with a new SCSI =
cable and =3D3D
> > >a=3D3D20
> > > single EDS card. Test each MEC. =
Once<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>you know if
> there
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >is a=3D3D20
> > > problem there, add a new SCSI cable and another
> =3D3D3D<BR>>card. Put
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >different=3D3D20
> > > modules in the MECs so you can see which one is on
> =3D3D3D<BR>>card =3D
> >A, =3D3D
> > >B, C at=3D3D20
> > > all times. this will give you the info as to how =
the =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>cards =3D3D
> > >are=3D3D20
> > > initializing and which card is card A, B, C as you =
start =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D<BR>>adding more=3D3D20
> > > hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were =
working =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D<BR>>perfectly=3D3D20
> > > when I took my system off line. I can't imagine it =
being a =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D20
> > > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue =
though. Your =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D<BR>>system=3D3D20
> > > will not function with bad SCSI =
cables.<BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE =3D3D
> > >HTML=3D3D20
> > > PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D3D20
> > > =
Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=3D3D20
> > > http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type =
content=3D3D3D3D"text/html;=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
=3D3D
> > >content=3D3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D3D20
> > > 6.00.6000.16414"=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > =
>name=3D3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=3D3D
> > >D><BR>><BODY=3D3D20
> > > bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20
> > > =
dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; =3D
> >PADDING-LEFT: =3D3D
> > >5px;=3D3D20
> > > MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 =
2px solid; =3D3D
> > >MARGIN-RIGHT:=3D3D20
> > > 0px"><BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> <DIV>"Tom =3D3D
> > >Bruhl"=3D3D20
> > > <<A=3D3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:=
arp=3D
> >egi=3D3D
> > >o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D3D20
> > > wrote =3D3D3D<BR>>in message=3D3D3D20<BR>> <A =
href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:=
469=3D
> >723=3D3D
> > =
>76@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=3D3D
> > >p;=3D3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>This =
is really a =3D3D
> > >novice oriented=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D<BR>>question but . .=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> > > .</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D3D
> > >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D3D2>It doesn't matter which card is the =
=3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D<BR>>"A"=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> > > card</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D3D
> > >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D3D2>in your system as far as Paris' =
ID=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D<BR>>orientation=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> > > right?</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D3D
> > >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> > ><DIV><BR>> =3D3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Yes, =
it does, and
> the =3D3D
> > >orientation=3D3D20
> > > of<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>the slots=3D3D3D20<BR>> you are =
using in =3D3D
> > >combination with=3D3D20
> > > the orientation of the ribbon=3D3D3D20<BR>> cables =
will
> determine =3D3D
> > >this.=3D3D20
> > > Have you changed them around during
> =3D3D3D<BR>>your=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
> > >
> > > reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> > ><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> > > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>> =3D3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Start =
with a new
> SCSI =3D3D
> > >cable and a=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D<BR>>single EDS=3D3D3D20<BR>> card. Test =
each MEC. Once
> you =3D3D
> > >know if=3D3D20
> > > there is a problem there, add a<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>new =
=3D3D
> > >SCSI=3D3D3D20<BR>> cable=3D3D20
> > > and another card. Put different modules in the MECs =
so you
> can =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D<BR>>see=3D3D20
> > > which=3D3D3D20<BR>> one is on card A, B, C at all =
times. this =3D3D
> > >will give you=3D3D20
> > > the info =3D3D3D<BR>>as to=3D3D3D20<BR>> how the =
cards are =3D3D
> > >initializing and=3D3D20
> > > which card is card A, B, C as you =
=3D3D3D<BR>>start=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
> > >adding more=3D3D20
> > > hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that =
were=3D3D20
> > > working<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>><BR>> perfectly when I took =
my system =3D3D
> > >off line. I=3D3D20
> > > can't imagine it being a =
=3D3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D3D20<BR>> Bent =3D3D
> > >pins on SCSI=3D3D20
> > > cables can be a serious issue though. Your system =
=3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>will=3D3D20
> > > not=3D3D3D20<BR>> function with bad SCSI=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > =
>=3D3D3D<BR>>cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>=3D3D
> > >;</BODY></HTML><BR>><BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
> > ><DIV><FONT size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft =
Lockspam to fight =3D
> >spam, =3D3D
> > >and=3D3D20
> > >you?<BR><A=3D3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com=
/re
> =
<http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re>=3D
> >fer=3D3D
> > >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 =
Transitional//EN">
> ><HTML><HEAD>
> ><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type =
content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
> >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
> ><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" =
name=3D3DGENERATOR>
> ><STYLE></STYLE>
> ></HEAD>
> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hey =
Rod,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hiding the default =
project didn't
> help=3D20
> >anything. I've never</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>had 2.?? installed =
on this comp
> so I =3D
> >think I'm safe=3D20
> >there regarding</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2>drivers.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am only able to =
intermitantly
> get the
> =3D
> >442 working=3D20
> >as the master.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I think that's do =
to the scsi cable =3D
> >issue. I=3D20
> >need four new ones.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am unable to get =
more than one
> EDS =3D
> >card working=3D20
> >WITH the 442.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Not sure why. The =
ribbons are all =3D
> >wired=3D20
> >correctly.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm off to a =
hellish gigging =3D
> >weekend. No more=3D20
> >time for hell in Paris.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks for all your
> input,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; =
MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A=
>&g
> =
<mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g>=3D
> >t;=3D20
> > wrote in message <A=3D20
> >=20
> =
href=3D3D"news:4697ab8a@linux">news:4697ab8a@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Did
> =
<news:4697ab8a@linux">news:4697ab8a@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Did> =3D
> >you try=3D20
> > hiding the default ppj to see if it would boot up with =
a MEC =3D
> >when<BR>creating=3D20
> > a new session? <BR>Rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> > =
href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20
> =
<mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20>
> > wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Guys,<BR>>I'm all set with the =
cables =3D
> >and the=3D20
> > which card is A bit.<BR>>Rod you were right about what =
I was=3D20
> > asking.<BR>><BR>>In any event I scaled down to one EDS =
(Pretty =3D
> >sure=3D20
> > that's card A =3D3D<BR>>right?!!!)<BR>>and plugged it =
into each of =3D
> >my two=3D20
> > working Mecs. Paris will boot but<BR>>even internal =
clock was =3D
> >never=3D20
> > found nor were the in/outs on each Mec.<BR>>The 442 on =
the other =3D
> >hand works=3D20
> > like a champ one card only. I suspect<BR>>either all =
my Mecs =3D
> >are=3D20
> > screwy now or the SCSI cables are intermitant =3D
> >at<BR>=3D3D<BR>>best.<BR>>It's=3D20
> > working fine with the 442 so I'm sticking with that =
for =3D
> >today.<BR>>I'll add=3D20
> > my EDS cards one by one and see if that is back =
to=3D20
> > normal.<BR>><BR>>Thanks for the help and if I need =
scsi cables =3D
> >what and=3D20
> > where to buy them<BR>=3D3D<BR>>would be good info =
too.<BR>>Mr=3D20
> > Testy<BR>> "Rod Lincoln" <<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A=
>&g
> =
<mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g>=3D
> >t;=3D20
> > wrote in message =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>news:469780ce$1@linux...<BR>><BR>> I=3D20
> > think Tom was asking if there was a "3.0" version of =
the EDS card=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>that needed<BR>> to be connected to the =
master. =3D
> >The answer=3D20
> > to that would be no.=3D3D20<BR>> Is this what you were =
asking=3D20
> > Tom?<BR>> DJ's advice is very important though. I =
would do =3D
> >it, if you=3D20
> > haven't =3D3D<BR>>already.<BR>> I don't want to sound =
like a =3D
> >"RTFM"=3D20
> > kind of guy, but the Paris =3D
> >manual<BR>=3D3D<BR>>describes<BR>> this=3D20
> > procedure pretty well.<BR>> It's on page 4 and 5 of =
the 3.0=3D20
> > version.<BR>> It kind of sounds to me like you may not =
be =3D
> >hooking up=3D20
> > the correct eds<BR>=3D3D<BR>>card<BR>> to the =
master=3D20
> > mec.<BR>> Rod<BR>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ =3D
> >dot _=3D20
> > net> wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> =3D20
> > ><BR>> > "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> > =
href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>> =
wrote =3D
> >in message=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>> >news:46972376@linux...<BR>> =3D
> >> This is=3D20
> > really a novice oriented question but . . .<BR>> > =3D
> >It=3D20
> > doesn't matter which card is the "A" card<BR>> > in =
=3D
> >your=3D20
> > system as far as Paris' ID orientation right?<BR>> =3D
> >><BR>> =3D20
> > > Yes, it does, and the orientation of the slots you =
are =3D
> >using in=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>> >combination with the orientation of the =
ribbon =3D
> >cables=3D20
> > will determine<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >this. Have =
you =3D
> >changed them=3D20
> > around during your reconfiguration?<BR>> ><BR>> =3D20
> > > Start with a new SCSI cable and a single EDS card. =
Test =3D
> >each MEC.=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>Once<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>> >you know if =3D
> >there is a=3D20
> > problem there, add a new SCSI cable and =
=3D3D<BR>>another =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >card. Put different modules in the MECs so you can =
see which one =3D
> >is=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>on =3D3D3D<BR>> >card A, B, C at all times. =
this =3D
> >will give=3D20
> > you the info as to how the<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =
>cards =3D
> >are=3D20
> > initializing and which card is card A, B, C as you =
start=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >adding more hardware. the MEC =
i =3D
> >sent you is one=3D20
> > of 4 that were =3D3D<BR>>working =3D3D3D<BR>> =
>perfectly =3D
> >when I took my=3D20
> > system off line. I can't imagine it being =3D
> >a<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >problem. Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious =
issue though.=3D20
> > Your<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >system will not =
function =3D
> >with bad SCSI=3D20
> > cables.<BR>> ><BR>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC=3D20
> > "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"><BR>> =3D20
> > ><HTML><HEAD><BR>> ><META=3D20
> > http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type =
content=3D3D3D3D"text/html; =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >charset=3D3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>> ><META =3D
> >content=3D3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20
> > 6.00.6000.16414" name=3D3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>> =3D20
> > ><STYLE></STYLE><BR>> =3D
> >></HEAD><BR>> =3D20
> > ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>> =3D
> >><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> > dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
>style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =3D
> >0px;=3D20
> > PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: =3D
> >0px"><BR>> =3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
> >size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20
> > </DIV><BR>> > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl"=3D20
> > <<A=3D3D3D20<BR>> > href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arp=
egi=3D
> >o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>wrote =3D3D3D<BR>> >in =3D
> >message=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D20
> > <A href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:469=
723=3D
> =
>76@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=3D
> >p;=3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>This =
=3D
> >is really a=3D20
> > novice =3D3D<BR>>oriented =3D3D3D<BR>> >question but =
..=3D20
> > .=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D
> >.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>It =3D
> >doesn't matter=3D20
> > which card =3D3D<BR>>is the =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >>"A"=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > card</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>in your =
system as =3D
> >far as=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>Paris' ID =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >>orientation=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > right?</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20
> > </DIV><BR>> > <DIV><BR>> =3D
> >> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Yes, it =
does, and =3D
> >the=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>orientation of<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>> >the=3D20
> > slots=3D3D3D20<BR>> > you are using in combination =3D
> >with the=3D20
> > orientation of the =3D3D<BR>>ribbon=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =
=3D
> >cables will=3D20
> > determine this. Have you changed them around during =
=3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >your=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D20
> > reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20
> > </DIV><BR>> > <DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2>Start with a new SCSI cable =
=3D3D<BR>>and a =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >single EDS=3D3D3D20<BR>> > card. Test each MEC. =3D
> >Once you=3D20
> > know if there is a problem there, =
add<BR>=3D3D<BR>>a<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>> >new SCSI=3D3D3D20<BR>> > cable =3D
> >and another=3D20
> > card. Put different modules in the MECs so you =
=3D3D<BR>>can =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >see which=3D3D3D20<BR>> > one is on card A, B, C =3D
> >at all=3D20
> > times. this will give you the info =
=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >>as=3D20
> > to=3D3D3D20<BR>> > how the cards are initializing and =
=3D
> >which card=3D20
> > is card A, B, C as =3D3D<BR>>you =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >>start=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 =
that =3D
> >were=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>working<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >><BR>> > =3D20
> > perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't =
imagine it=3D20
> > being<BR>=3D3D<BR>>a =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >>problem.=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue =
though. =3D
> >Your=3D20
> > system<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >will =3D
> >not=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > function with bad SCSI =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> >>cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></B=3D
> >ODY></HTML><BR>> =3D20
> > ><BR>> ><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>I choose =3D
> >Polesoft=3D20
> > Lockspam to fight spam, and=3D20
> > you?<BR>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =3D20
> > <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML =
4.0=3D20
> > Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=3D20
> > http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type =
content=3D3D3D"text/html;=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =3D
> >content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20
> > 6.00.2800.1400"=3D20
> > =3D
> >name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=3D
> >D><BR>><BODY=3D20
> > bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > =3D
> >size=3D3D3D2>Guys,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'm all set with the =
cables and the =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>which=3D20
> > card is =3D
> >A=3D3D20<BR>>bit.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Rod you were right about =
what I=3D20
> > =3D
> >was=3D3D20<BR>>asking.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FO=3D
> >NT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D
> ></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>In any event I scaled =
down to one EDS=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>(Pretty sure=3D3D20<BR>>that's card A=3D20
> > right?!!!)</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>and plugged it into each of my two=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>working=3D3D20<BR>>Mecs. Paris will =
boot=3D20
> > but</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =3D
> >
> > size=3D3D3D2>even internal clock was never found =3D
> >nor<BR>=3D3D<BR>>were=3D20
> > the=3D3D20<BR>>in/outs on each=3D20
> > Mec.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>The 442 on the other hand works like =3D
> >a<BR>=3D3D<BR>>champ=3D20
> > one=3D3D20<BR>>card only. I=3D20
> > suspect</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>either all my Mecs are screwy now or =
=3D3D<BR>>the=3D20
> > SCSI=3D3D20<BR>>cables are intermitant at=3D20
> > best.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>It's working fine with the 442 so I'm =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>sticking=3D20
> > with=3D3D20<BR>>that for=3D20
> > today.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>I'll add my EDS cards one by one and =
=3D3D<BR>>see if =3D
> >that=3D20
> > is=3D3D20<BR>>back to=3D20
> > normal.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>Thanks for the help and if I need =3D
> >scsi<BR>=3D3D<BR>>cables=3D20
> > what=3D3D20<BR>>and where to buy them would be good =
info=3D20
> > too.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>Mr=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>Testy</FONT></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D=3D
> >3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=3D20
> > 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
=3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: =3D
> >#000000 2px=3D20
> > solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Rod =
Lincoln"=3D20
> > <<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A=
>&a=3D
> =
>mp;g'>mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</=3D
> >A>&g</A>=3D3D<BR>>t;=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > wrote in message <A=3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D'news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>I=
'>n=3D
> =
>ews:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV>&l=3D
> >t;BR>I</A><BR>=3D3D<BR>>think=3D20
> > Tom=3D3D20<BR>> was asking if there was a "3.0" =
version of the =3D
> >EDS card=3D20
> > that =3D3D<BR>>needed<BR>to be=3D3D20<BR>> connected =
to =3D
> >the master.=3D20
> > The answer to that would be no. <BR>Is this =
=3D3D<BR>>what=3D20
> > you=3D3D20<BR>> were asking Tom?<BR>DJ's advice is =
very =3D
> >important=3D20
> > though. I would do =3D3D<BR>>it, if=3D3D20<BR>> you =
haven't=3D20
> > already.<BR>I don't want to sound like a "RTFM" kind =
of =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>guy,=3D20
> > but=3D3D20<BR>> the Paris manual describes<BR>this =3D
> >procedure pretty=3D20
> > well.<BR>It's on =3D3D<BR>>page 4=3D3D20<BR>> and 5 of =
=3D
> >the 3.0=3D20
> > version.<BR>It kind of sounds to me like you may=3D20
> > not<BR>=3D3D<BR>>be=3D3D20<BR>> hooking up the correct =
eds=3D20
> > card<BR>to the master =3D
> >mec.<BR>Rod<BR>"DJ"=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> "Tom =3D
> >Bruhl"=3D20
> > <<A=3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arp=
egi=3D
> >o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D20
> > wrote =3D3D<BR>>in message=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>news:46972376@linux...<BR>> This is really =
=3D
> >a=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>novice oriented=3D3D20<BR>> question but . . =
=3D
> >.<BR>> It=3D20
> > doesn't matter which card is the =
=3D3D<BR>>"A"=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > card<BR>> in your system as far as Paris' ID=3D20
> > orientation=3D3D20<BR>> right?<BR>><BR>> Yes, =3D
> >it does,=3D20
> > and the orientation of the =3D3D<BR>>slots=3D3D20<BR>> =
you are =3D
> >using in=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>combination with the orientation of =
the=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>ribbon=3D3D20<BR>> cables will determine =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>this.=3D20
> > Have you changed them around =3D3D<BR>>during =
your=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >
> > reconfiguration?<BR>><BR>> Start with a new SCSI =3D
> >cable and=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>a=3D3D20<BR>> single EDS card. Test each =
MEC.=3D20
> > Once<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>you know if there =
=3D3D<BR>>is=3D20
> > a=3D3D20<BR>> problem there, add a new SCSI cable and =
another=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>card. Put =3D3D<BR>>different=3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D
> >modules in the=3D20
> > MECs so you can see which one is on =3D3D3D<BR>>card =
A, =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>B, C=3D20
> > at=3D3D20<BR>> all times. this will give you the info =
as to how =3D
> >the=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>cards =3D3D<BR>>are=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >initializing and which=3D20
> > card is card A, B, C as you start =
=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>adding =3D
> >
> > more=3D3D20<BR>> hardware. the MEC i sent you is one =
of 4 that =3D
> >were=3D20
> > working =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>perfectly=3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D
> >when I took my=3D20
> > system off line. I can't imagine it being a=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D20<BR>> Bent pins =
on =3D
> >SCSI cables=3D20
> > can be a serious issue though. Your=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>system=3D3D20<BR>> will not =3D
> >function with bad=3D20
> > SCSI cables.<BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>HTML=3D3D20<BR>> PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML =
=3D
> >4.0=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> >Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>>=3D
> ><META=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type =3D
> >content=3D3D3D3D"text/html;=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =3D
> >
> > =3D3D<BR>>content=3D3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > 6.00.6000.16414"=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>name=3D3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE&=3D
> >gt;<BR>></HEA=3D3D<BR>>D><BR>><BODY=3D3D20<BR>&=3D
> >gt; =3D20
> > =3D
> >bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >
> > =
dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; =3D
> >PADDING-LEFT:=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>5px;=3D3D20<BR>> MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT:=3D20
> > #000000 2px solid; =3D3D<BR>>MARGIN-RIGHT:=3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D20
> > 0px"><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D
> ><DIV>"Tom=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>Bruhl"=3D3D20<BR>> <<A=3D3D3D20<BR>>=3D20
> > href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> =
>=3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net&l=3D=
> =
>t;/A'>mailto:arpegi=3D3D<BR>>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net<=3D
> >;/A</A>>>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > wrote =3D3D3D<BR>>in message=3D3D3D20<BR>> <A=3D20
> > href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> =
>=3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>=3D
> =
>;...</DIV'>news:469723=3D3D<BR>>76@linux">news:46972376@linux&l=3D
> >t;/A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=3D3D<BR>>p;=3D3D20=3D
> ><BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>This is =
really a=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>novice oriented=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>question but .=3D20
> > .=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > .</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =
size=3D3D3D3D2>It =3D
> >doesn't matter which=3D20
> > card is the =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>"A"=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D
> >=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > card</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =
size=3D3D3D3D2>in your =3D
> >system as far=3D20
> > as Paris' ID=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>orientation=3D3D3D20<BR>>=3D20
> > =3D3D20<BR>> right?</FONT></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> > <DIV><FONT =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>>=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>><DIV><BR>> =3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> ><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, and =
the=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>orientation=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >of<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>the=3D20
> > slots=3D3D3D20<BR>> you are using in =
=3D3D<BR>>combination=3D20
> > with=3D3D20<BR>> the orientation of the =3D
> >ribbon=3D3D3D20<BR>> cables=3D20
> > will determine =3D3D<BR>>this.=3D3D20<BR>> Have you =
changed =3D
> >them around=3D20
> > during =3D3D3D<BR>>your=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>><BR>> =3D20
> > reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Start =
with a new =3D
> >SCSI=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>cable and a=3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D3D3D<BR>>single=3D20
> > EDS=3D3D3D20<BR>> card. Test each MEC. Once you =
=3D3D<BR>>know =3D
> >
> > if=3D3D20<BR>> there is a problem there, add=3D20
> > a<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>new =3D3D<BR>>SCSI=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >
> > cable=3D3D20<BR>> and another card. Put different =
modules in =3D
> >the MECs so=3D20
> > you can =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>see=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > which=3D3D3D20<BR>> one is on card A, B, C at all =
times. this=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>will give you=3D3D20<BR>> the info =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>as=3D20
> > to=3D3D3D20<BR>> how the cards are =
=3D3D<BR>>initializing=3D20
> > and=3D3D20<BR>> which card is card A, B, C as you=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>start=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>adding=3D20
> > more=3D3D20<BR>> hardware. the MEC i sent you is one =
of 4 that=3D20
> > were=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >working<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>><BR>>=3D20
> > perfectly when I took my system =3D3D<BR>>off line. =
=3D
> >I=3D3D20<BR>> can't=3D20
> > imagine it being a =3D3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D
> >Bent=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>pins on SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> cables can be a =
serious =3D
> >issue though.=3D20
> > Your system =3D3D3D<BR>>will=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >not=3D3D3D20<BR>>=3D20
> > function with bad SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV>=3D
> >;</BLOCKQUOTE>=3D3D<BR>>;</BODY></HTML><BR>>&=3D
> >lt;BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to =
fight =3D
> >spam,=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>=3D3D<BR>>and=3D3D20<BR>>you?<BR><A=3D3D20<BR>>href=3D3D3D "<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
fer=3D
> =
>'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=3D=
> >>=3D3D<BR>>.html</A>=3D20
> > =3D
> ></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML><BR>><BR>><BR></=3D
> >BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> >
> >
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I don't s'pose it could hurt if they're =
tarnished.=20
My experiences though with the issue your seeing have been bad SCSI =
cables.=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Start small, test every little =
component, unless=20
you've got a bent up input pin somewhere (and I'd light them well and =
magnifying=20
lense them all) I'm having a hard time buying that you have 4 dead =
cables out of=20
the blue though, something caused that if it's the case. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>AA</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
in message=20
<A href=3D"news:469b74bf@linux">news:469b74bf@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Aaron,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hyperthreading is off. I'll =
double check=20
though. I'd love to save the money</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>on those scsi cables.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What do you think about Deoxit in the =
female scsi=20
jacks?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Aaron Allen" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:know-spam@not_here.dude">know-spam@not_here.dude</A>> =
wrote=20
in message <A =
href=3D"news:469aead6@linux">news:469aead6@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This might be flogging =
the rented and=20
dead mule, but you did verify that dual core was off in this =
equation,=20
and hadn't been flipped back on by a gremlin?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><BR>AA</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A =
href=3D"news:469ad5e8@linux">news:469ad5e8@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ya Jeff,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>At least half the times no C-16 =
was=20
attached.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Do you think that a bad C-16 =
cable could=20
cause these issues?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll remove them from the setup =
until all is=20
well.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I know at least a few =
times it=20
worked that the C-16 did also.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Jeff Hoover" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:4699b378@linux">news:4699b378@linux</A>...</DIV>Tom,<BR><BR>=
Stupid=20
question, but did you ever start up without any c16's? If =
so did=20
<BR>you see the same issue?<BR><BR>Jeff<BR><BR><BR>Bruhl =
wrote:<BR>>=20
Rod,<BR>> I am working from a clone that was totally good =
with=20
two<BR>> fully loaded Mecs. I have to assume the =
drivers are=20
good.<BR>> I'm looking for a good vendor for SCSI cables =
now.<BR>>=20
They're called SCSI 2 right?<BR>> <A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.m2cables.com/SCSI2toSCSI2CablesHDB50MtoML6.html">http:=
//www.m2cables.com/SCSI2toSCSI2CablesHDB50MtoML6.html</A><BR >> =20
<BR>> I'm thinking of cleaning the female jacks on the mec =
and EDS to=20
be<BR>> sure all is well. Any sprays anyone =
suggests? =20
I've got Deoxit.<BR>> Good?<BR>> Tom<BR>>=20
<BR>> "Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A><B=
R>> =20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.co=
m</A>>>=20
wrote in message<BR>> <A=20
=
href=3D"news:4697f7e2$1@linux">news:4697f7e2$1@linux</A>...<BR>>=20
<BR>> Tom, sounds like it probably is =
a scsi=20
issue. Your running xp right?<BR>> =
The=20
new<BR>> Scherzo drivers are for xp =
verses 98=20
not for 3.0 verses 2.x<BR>> Come to =
think of=20
it. you probably whoudn't have had any old=20
drivers<BR>> on=20
your<BR>> xp sys drive anyway...never =
mind.<BR>> =20
Rod<BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A> =
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">mailto:arpegio@comcast.net</A>>>=
;=20
wrote:<BR> > =2 0
><BR> > =2 0
><BR>> >Hey=20
Rod,<BR>> >Hiding the =
default=20
project didn't help anything. I've=20
never<BR>> >had 2.?? =
installed on=20
this comp so I think I'm safe there=20
regarding<BR> > =2 0
>drivers.<BR> > =2 0
><BR>> >I am only able to =
intermitantly get the 442 working as the=20
master.<BR>> >I think that's =
do to=20
the scsi cable issue. I need four new=20
ones.<BR>> >I am unable to =
get more=20
than one EDS card working WITH the=20
442.<BR>> >Not sure =
why. The=20
ribbons are all wired =
correctly.<BR> > =2 0
><BR>> >I'm off to a =
hellish=20
gigging weekend. No more time for hell in=20
Paris.<BR>> >Thanks for all =
your=20
input,<BR> > =2 0
>Tom<BR>> > "Rod =
Lincoln"=20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A><B=
R>> =20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.co=
m</A>>>=20
wrote in message =3D<BR> > =2 0
>news:4697ab8a@linux...<BR>> =
><BR>> > Did you =
try hiding=20
the default ppj to see if it would boot=20
up<BR>> with a=20
=3D<BR>> >MEC=20
when<BR>> > creating a =
new=20
session?=3D20<BR>> > =20
Rod<BR>> > "Tom Bruhl" =
<<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A> =
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">mailto:arpegio@comcast.net</A>>>=
;<BR>> =20
wrote:<BR>> > =20
><BR>> > =20
><BR>> > =20
>Guys,<BR>> > =
>I'm all=20
set with the cables and the which card is A=20
bit.<BR>> > >Rod =
you were=20
right about what I was =
asking.<BR> > =2 0
> ><BR>> > =
>In=20
any event I scaled down to one EDS (Pretty sure that's=20
card<BR>> A=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>right?!!!)<BR>> > =
>and=20
plugged it into each of my two working Mecs. Paris=20
will<BR>> boot=20
but<BR>> > >even =
internal=20
clock was never found nor were the in/outs=20
on<BR>> each=20
Mec.<BR>> > >The =
442 on the=20
other hand works like a champ one card only. I=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>suspect<BR>> > =
>either=20
all my Mecs are screwy now or the SCSI cables=20
are<BR>> =20
intermitant<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>at<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>best.<BR>> > =
>It's=20
working fine with the 442 so I'm sticking with that for=20
today.<BR>> > >I'll =
add my=20
EDS cards one by one and see if that is back to=20
normal.<BR>> > =20
><BR>> > >Thanks =
for the=20
help and if I need scsi cables what and where=20
to<BR>> buy=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>them<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > >would =
be good=20
info too.<BR>> > =
>Mr=20
Testy<BR>> > =
> "Rod=20
Lincoln" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A><B=
R>> =20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.co=
m</A>>>=20
wrote in message =3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
=
>news:469780ce$1@linux...<BR> > =2 0
> ><BR>> > =
> I think Tom was asking if there was a "3.0" version =
of=20
the<BR>> EDS=20
card<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =
>that=20
needed<BR>> > =
> to be=20
connected to the master. The answer to that would=20
be<BR>> =20
no.=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> Is=20
this what you were asking =
Tom?<BR> > =2 0
> > DJ's advice is very important though. I =
would do=20
it, if you<BR>> =20
haven't<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>already.<BR>> > =
> =20
I don't want to sound like a "RTFM" kind of guy, but the Paris=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>manual<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>describes<BR>> > =20
> this procedure pretty=20
well.<BR>> > =
> It's=20
on page 4 and 5 of the 3.0=20
version.<BR>> > =
> It=20
kind of sounds to me like you may not be hooking up=20
the<BR>> =20
correct<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>eds<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>card<BR>> > =
> to=20
the master mec.<BR>> > =
> Rod<BR>> > =20
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net>=20
wrote:<BR>> > =
> =20
><BR>> > > =
><BR>> > > =
><BR>> > > =
> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A><BR>> =
=20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">mailto:arpegio@comcast.net</A>>>=
;=20
wrote in message =3D3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
> =20
>news:46972376@linux...<BR>> =
> > > This is really a novice =
oriented=20
question but . . .<BR>> =
> =20
> > It doesn't matter which card is the "A"=20
card<BR>> > > =
> in your system as far as Paris' ID orientation=20
right?<BR>> > =
> =20
><BR>> > > =
> Yes, it does, and the orientation of the slots you=20
are<BR>> using=20
in<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>combination with the orientation of the ribbon cables will=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>determine<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>this. Have you changed them around during your=20
reconfiguration?<BR>> =
> =20
> ><BR>> > =
> > Start with a new SCSI cable and a single =
EDS card.=20
Test each =3D<BR>> >MEC.=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>Once<BR>> > =
> =20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>you know if there is a problem there, add a new SCSI=20
cable<BR>> and=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>another=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>card. Put different modules in the MECs so you can see=20
which<BR>> one=20
=3D<BR>> >is=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >on=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>card A, B, C at all times. this will give you the info as=20
to<BR>> how=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>the<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>cards are initializing and which card is card A, B, C as=20
you<BR>> =20
start<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4=20
that<BR>> were=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>working=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't imagine=20
it<BR>> =
being<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>a<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>problem. Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious=20
issue<BR>> though.=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>Your<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>system will not function with bad SCSI=20
cables.<BR>> > =
> =20
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<<A=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> > <BR>> =
href=3D3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A><BR>> =
=20
<<A=20
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href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
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=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
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>wrote=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> >in=20
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> =20
> > <A =
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=20
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bsp; =20
<<A=20
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href=3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:469723=
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=20
> > > <DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>This is really =
a<BR>> =20
novice<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =
>oriented=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
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..=3D3D3D20<BR> > =2 0
> > > =20
.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
> > > <DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>It doesn't =
matter<BR>> =20
which<BR>> =20
=3D<BR>> >card=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >is =
the=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>"A"=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> > =20
=
card</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> > > <DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>in your system =
as<BR>> far=20
=3D<BR>> >as=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>Paris' ID=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>orientation=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> > =20
=
right?</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> > > <DIV><FONT =
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> =20
> <DIV><BR>> =
> =20
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size=3D3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, =
and<BR>> the=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =
>orientation=20
of<BR>> > > =20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>the slots=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> > you are using in combination with the =
orientation=20
of the =3D3D<BR>> > =20
>ribbon=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> > cables will determine this. Have you =
changed them=20
around<BR>> =20
during<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>your=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> > =20
=
reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR >> =
=20
> > > <DIV><FONT =
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size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
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> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>Start=20
with a new<BR>> SCSI=20
=3D<BR>> >cable=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >and a =
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>single EDS=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> > card. Test each MEC. Once you know if =
there is a=20
problem<BR>> =20
there,<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>add<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>a<BR>> > =
> =20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>new SCSI=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> > cable and another card. Put different =
modules in=20
the MECs<BR>> so=20
you<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =
>can=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>see which=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> > one is on card A, B, C at all times. this =
will=20
give you<BR>> the=20
info<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>as to=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> > how the cards are initializing and which =
card is=20
card A,<BR>> B, C=20
as<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =
>you=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>start=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> > adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you =
is one of=20
4 that<BR>> were=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>working<BR>> > =
> =20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
><BR>> > > =
> perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't =
imagine it=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>being<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > >a=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>problem.=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious =
issue=20
though. Your =3D<BR> > =2 0
>system<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>will not=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> > function with bad SCSI=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
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size=3D3D3D2>Guys,</FONT></DIV&a mp;gt; <BR>> &=
nbsp; =20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>I'm all=20
set with the<BR>> cables=20
and<BR>> =20
=3D<BR>> >the=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >which =
card is=20
A=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
=
>bit.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>Rod you=20
were right about<BR>> what=20
I<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>was=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
=
>asking.</FONT></DIV><BR >>  =
;=20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> > =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>In any =
event I=20
scaled down<BR>> to=20
=3D<BR>> >one EDS=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>(Pretty=20
sure=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>that's=20
card A=20
=
right?!!!)</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
=20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>and=20
plugged it into each<BR>> of my=20
=3D<BR>> >two=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>working=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
>Mecs. Paris will boot=20
=
but</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>even=20
internal clock was<BR>> never=20
=3D<BR>> >found=20
nor<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > >were=20
the=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>in/outs on=20
each =
Mec.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>The 442=20
on the other hand<BR>> =20
works<BR>> =20
=3D<BR>> >like=20
a<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > >champ =
one=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>card only.=20
I =
suspect</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>either=20
all my Mecs are<BR>> screwy=20
=3D<BR>> >now or=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >the=20
SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>cables=20
are intermitant at=20
=
best.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>It's=20
working fine with the<BR>> 442=20
=3D<BR>> >so I'm=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>sticking=20
with=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>that for=20
=
today.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>I'll add=20
my EDS cards one<BR>> by=20
one<BR>> =20
=3D<BR>> >and=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >see =
if that=20
is=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>back to=20
=
normal.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> > =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Thanks =
for the help=20
and if I =3D<BR>> >need=20
scsi<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>cables=20
what=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>and where=20
to buy them would be good info=20
=
too.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>Mr=20
=
Testy</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> =
><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20<BR> > =2 0
> >style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: =
5px;=20
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0px"><BR>> > =
> =20
<DIV>"Rod Lincoln"=20
<<A=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> =3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
=3D<BR>> >>href=3D3D3D"<A =
=
href=3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A'>m=
ailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A</A><B=
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<<A=20
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href=3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A'>m=
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t;=3D<BR> > =2 0
>>&g=3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
>t;=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
wrote in message =
<A=3D3D20<BR> > =2 0
> > =3D<BR> > =2 0
>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
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href=3D'news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>I'>n=
ews:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV>&l=
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href=3D'news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>I'>n=
ews:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV>&l=
t;BR>I</A>><BR> > =2 0
> =3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
>think Tom=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> was asking if there was a "3.0" version of the EDS =
card that=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>needed<BR>to =
be=3D3D20<BR> > =2 0
> > connected to the master. The answer to =
that would=20
be no. <BR>Is =3D<BR>> =
>this=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >what=20
you=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
were asking Tom?<BR>DJ's advice is very important though.=20
I<BR>> would=20
=3D<BR>> >do=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >it,=20
if=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> you=20
haven't already.<BR>I don't want to sound like a=20
"RTFM"<BR>> kind=20
of<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =
>guy,=20
but=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> the=20
Paris manual describes<BR>this procedure=20
pretty<BR>> well.<BR>It's=20
=3D<BR>> >on=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >page=20
4=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> and 5=20
of the 3.0 version.<BR>It kind of sounds to me like=20
you<BR>> may=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>not<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>be=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
hooking up the correct eds card<BR>to the master=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
=
>mec.<BR>Rod<BR>"DJ"=3D3D20 <BR>>  =
; =20
> > <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _=20
net>=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
wrote:<BR>><BR>>&a mp;lt;BR>><BR>> =
"Tom=20
Bruhl" <<A=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> href=3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A><BR>> =
=20
<<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>>=20
=3D<BR>> >wrote=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >in=20
message=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
=3D3D3D<BR>>news:46972376@linux...<BR>> This =
is really a=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>novice=20
oriented=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> question but . . .<BR>> It doesn't matter =
which card=20
is the =3D3D<BR>> > =20
>"A"=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
card<BR>> in your system as far as Paris' ID=20
orientation=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> right?<BR>><BR>> Yes, it does, and =
the=20
orientation of the =3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
>slots=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> you are using in =3D3D3D<BR>>combination =
with the=20
orientation<BR>> of=20
the<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>ribbon=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> cables will determine =3D3D3D<BR>>this. Have =
you=20
changed them<BR>> =20
around<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =
>during=20
your=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
reconfiguration?<BR>><BR> > Start with a new =
SCSI cable=20
and =3D3D<BR>> > =20
>a=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
single EDS card. Test each MEC. =
Once<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>you=2 0
know if<BR>> =20
there<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =
>is=20
a=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
problem there, add a new SCSI cable and=20
another<BR>> =
=3D3D3D<BR>>card.=20
Put<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>different=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> modules in the MECs so you can see which one is=20
on<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>>card=20
=3D<BR>> >A,=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >B, C=20
at=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> all=20
times. this will give you the info as to how the=20
=3D<BR>> =
>=3D3D3D<BR>>cards=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>are=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
initializing and which card is card A, B, C as you start=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>>adding=20
more=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that were working=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
=
>=3D3D3D<BR>>perfectly=3D3D20<BR >> =
=20
> > when I took my system off line. I can't =
imagine it=20
being a =3D3D<BR>> > =20
=
>=3D3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D20<BR >> &=
nbsp;=20
> > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious =
issue=20
though. Your =3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
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> =20
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> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
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=
>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D3D20<=
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message=3D3D3D20<BR>> <A=20
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=3D<BR> > =2 0
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t;BR>>&nbs=3D3D<BR> > =2 0
> >p;=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>This is=20
really a =3D3D<BR>> > =
>novice=20
oriented=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =3D3D3D<BR>>question but . =
..=3D3D3D20<BR>>=20
=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
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=3D3D<BR>> > =20
=
>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR> > =2 0
> > size=3D3D3D3D2>It doesn't matter which =
card is=20
the =3D3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>>"A"=3D3D3D20<BR>>=20
=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
card</FONT></DIV><BR& gt;> <DIV><FONT=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
=
>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR> > =2 0
> > size=3D3D3D3D2>in your system as far as =
Paris'=20
ID=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
=3D3D3D<BR>>orientation=3D3D3D20< ;BR>>=20
=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
right?</FONT></DIV><BR&am p;gt;> =
<DIV><FONT=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
=
>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR> > =2 0
> > size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> =
=3D3D<BR> > =2 0
> ><DIV><BR>>=20
=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
<DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Yes, it =
does,=20
and<BR>> the=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>orientation=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> of<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>the =
slots=3D3D3D20<BR>>=20
you are using in =3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
>combination =
with=3D3D20<BR> > =2 0
> > the orientation of the =
ribbon=3D3D3D20<BR>>=20
cables will<BR>> determine=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>this.=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> Have you changed them around=20
during<BR>> =20
=3D3D3D<BR>>your=3D3D3D20<BR& ;gt;>=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
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reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV>&am p;lt;BR>>=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
=
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=3D3D20<BR> > =2 0
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>Start with a =
new<BR>> SCSI=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >cable =
and=20
a=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
=3D3D3D<BR>>single EDS=3D3D3D20<BR>> card. =
Test each MEC.=20
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=3D3D<BR>> > >know=20
if=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
there is a problem there, add =
a<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>new=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
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and another card. Put different modules in the MECs so=20
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=3D3D<BR>> > =20
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=20
> > which=3D3D3D20<BR>> one is on =
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> =20
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> =20
> the info =3D3D3D<BR>>as =
to=3D3D3D20<BR>> how=20
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> =20
>initializing =
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=3D3D<BR>> > =
>adding=20
more=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that=20
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> =20
working<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>&a mp;lt;BR>> perfectly =
when I took=20
my system =3D3D<BR>> > =
>off=20
line. I=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
can't imagine it being a=20
=3D3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D3D20<BR >> Bent=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >pins =
on=20
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> =20
cables can be a serious issue though. Your system=20
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=
>=3D3D3D<BR>>will=3D3D20<BR>>  =
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><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hey=20
=
Rod,</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hiding the =
default=20
project didn't<BR>> =20
help=3D20<BR>> >anything. =
I've=20
=
never</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>had 2.?? =
installed on=20
this comp<BR>> so I=20
=3D<BR>> >think I'm=20
safe=3D20<BR>> >there=20
=
regarding</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
=
size=3D3D2>drivers.</FONT></DIV& amp;gt; <BR>> =
=20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am only =
able to=20
intermitantly<BR>> get=20
the<BR>> =20
=3D<BR>> >442=20
working=3D20<BR>> >as the=20
=
master.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I think =
that's do to=20
the scsi cable =3D<BR>> =
>issue.=20
I=3D20<BR>> >need four new=20
=
ones.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am unable =
to get more=20
than one<BR>> EDS=20
=3D<BR>> >card=20
working=3D20<BR>> >WITH the=20
=
442.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Not sure =
why. The=20
ribbons are all =3D<BR> > =2 0
>wired=3D20<BR> > =2 0
=
>correctly.</FONT></DIV><BR >> &n=
bsp;=20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm off to =
a hellish=20
gigging =3D<BR>> >weekend. =
No=20
more=3D20<BR>> >time for =
hell in=20
=
Paris.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks for =
all=20
your<BR>> =20
=
input,</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
=
size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV&g t; <BR>>  =
; =20
><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR> > =2 0
>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; =
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> <DIV>"Rod Lincoln"=20
<<A=3D20<BR>> > =20
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<<A=20
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=3D<BR>> >you=20
try=3D20<BR>> > hiding =
the=20
default ppj to see if it would boot up with a MEC=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
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>when<BR>creating=3D20<BR> > =2 0
> a new session? <BR>Rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl"=20
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R> > =2 0
> =20
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wrote:<BR>><BR>>&a mp;lt;BR>>Guys,<BR>>I'm=2 0
all set with the cables =
=3D<BR>> >and=20
the=3D20<BR>> > which =
card is A=20
bit.<BR>>Rod you were right about what I=20
was=3D20<BR>> > =20
asking.<BR>><BR>>I n any event I scaled down to =
one EDS=20
(Pretty =3D<BR> > =2 0
>sure=3D20<BR>> > =
that's card=20
A =3D3D<BR>>right?!!!)<BR>& amp;gt;and plugged it into =
each of=20
=3D<BR>> >my=20
two=3D20<BR>> > =
working Mecs.=20
Paris will boot but<BR>>even internal clock was=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>never=3D20<BR>> > =
found nor=20
were the in/outs on each Mec.<BR>>The 442 on the other=20
=3D<BR>> >hand=20
works=3D20<BR>> > like =
a champ=20
one card only. I suspect<BR>>either all my Mecs=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>are=3D20<BR>> > =
screwy now=20
or the SCSI cables are intermitant=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
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>at<BR>=3D3D<BR>>b est.<BR>>It's=3D20 <BR>>&n=
bsp; =20
> working fine with the 442 so I'm sticking with that =
for=20
=3D<BR>> =
>today.<BR>>I'll=20
add=3D20<BR>> > my EDS =
cards one=20
by one and see if that is back=20
to=3D20<BR>> > =20
normal.<BR>><BR>>T hanks for the help and if I =
need=20
scsi cables =3D<BR>> >what=20
and=3D20<BR>> > where =
to buy=20
them<BR>=3D3D<BR>>would be good info=20
too.<BR>>Mr=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
Testy<BR>> "Rod Lincoln"=20
<<A=3D20<BR>> > =20
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>t;=3D20<BR>> > =
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>=3D3D<BR>>news:469780ce$1@linux...<BR>><BR>&g=
t;=20
I=3D20<BR>> > think =
Tom was=20
asking if there was a "3.0" version of the EDS=20
card=3D20<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>>that needed<BR>> to be connected to =
the=20
master. =3D<BR>> >The=20
answer=3D20<BR>> > to =
that would=20
be no.=3D3D20<BR>> Is this what you were=20
asking=3D20<BR>> > =20
Tom?<BR>> DJ's advice is very important though. I would =
do=20
=3D<BR>> >it, if=20
you=3D20<BR>> > =
haven't=20
=3D3D<BR>>already.<BR>&am p;gt; I don't want to sound =
like a=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>"RTFM"=3D20<BR>> > =
kind of=20
guy, but the Paris =3D<BR> > =2 0
>manual<BR>=3D3D<BR>& gt;describes<BR>>=20
this=3D20<BR>> > =
procedure=20
pretty well.<BR>> It's on page 4 and 5 of the=20
3.0=3D20<BR>> > =20
version.<BR>> It kind of sounds to me like you may not =
be=20
=3D<BR>> >hooking=20
up=3D20<BR>> > the =
correct=20
eds<BR>=3D3D<BR>>card& ;lt;BR>> to the=20
master=3D20<BR>> > =20
mec.<BR>> Rod<BR>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ =
animas _=20
=3D<BR>> >dot=20
_=3D20<BR>> > net>=20
wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> > =
><BR>>=20
> "Tom Bruhl" =
<<A=3D20<BR> > =2 0
> href=3D3D"<A=20
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=3D<BR>> >> This=20
is=3D20<BR>> > really =
a novice=20
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>It=3D20<BR>> > =
doesn't=20
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>your=3D20<BR>> > =
system as=20
far as Paris' ID orientation right?<BR>>=20
=3D<BR>> >><BR>> =
=3D20<BR>> > > Yes, =
it does,=20
and the orientation of the slots you are=20
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>this. Have=20
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them=3D20<BR>> > =
around during=20
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=3D20<BR>> > > =
Start with a=20
new SCSI cable and a single EDS card. Test=20
=3D<BR>> >each=20
MEC.=3D20<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>>Once<BR>> ; =3D3D3D<BR>> =
>you know if=20
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a=3D20<BR>> > problem =
there, add=20
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>=3D3D3D<BR>>=20
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=3D3D<BR>>on =3D3D3D<BR>> >card A, B, C at =
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=3D3D<BR>>orientation of<BR>> =
=3D3D3D<BR>>=20
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will=3D20<BR>> > =
determine this.=20
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=3D20<BR>> > =20
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=3D<BR> > =2 0
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=3D3D<BR>>and a=20
=3D<BR>> =
>=3D3D3D<BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> > =
>single=20
EDS=3D3D3D20<BR>> > card. Test each MEC.=20
=3D<BR>> >Once=20
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if there is=20
a problem there, add<BR>=3D3D<BR>>a< ;BR>> =
=3D20<BR>> > =
=3D3D3D<BR>>=20
>new SCSI=3D3D3D20<BR>> > cable=20
=3D<BR>> >and=20
another=3D20<BR>> > =
card. Put=20
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which=3D3D3D20<BR>> > one is on card A, B, C=20
=3D<BR>> >at=20
all=3D20<BR>> > times. =
this will=20
give you the info =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>& ;gt;=20
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to=3D3D3D20<BR>> > how the cards are initializing =
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SCSI cables can be a serious issue though.=20
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cables and=20
the =3D<BR> > =2 0
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about what=20
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=3D<BR> > =2 0
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> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>In any event I =
scaled down to=20
one EDS=3D20<BR>> > =20
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right?!!!)</FONT></DIV><B R>><DIV><FONT=20
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>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =
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size=3D3D3D2>even=20
internal clock was never found =
=3D<BR> > =2 0
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>nor<BR>=3D3D<BR>> were=3D20 <BR>> &n=
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Mec.</FONT></DIV><BR& gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
size=3D3D3D2>The 442 on the other hand works like=20
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suspect</FONT></DIV><BR&a mp;gt;><DIV><FONT=20
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>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
size=3D3D3D2>either all my Mecs are screwy now or=20
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> =20
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best.</FONT></DIV><BR& ;gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
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Mon, 16 July 2007 19:09 |
Tom Bruhl
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Intermitant success is the best I've got right now.
I plan to install Paris on another comp, try each EDS
individually and each SCSI cable individually with the 442. If
all goes well or not I will have an answer. Next, try the same in=20
the actual Paris rig without the Magma. If I can get regular
Paris boots there then it's the Magma power supply
or Magma cable. I'm thinking power supply. I always
had all 5 EDS cards showing even when the hardware
attached to them wasn't.
Does this sound like a logical approach to you?
I'm sick of chasing my tail.
Tom
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =
news:469bfc6c@linux...
I don't s'pose it could hurt if they're tarnished. My experiences =
though with the issue your seeing have been bad SCSI cables.=20
Start small, test every little component, unless you've got a bent up =
input pin somewhere (and I'd light them well and magnifying lense them =
all) I'm having a hard time buying that you have 4 dead cables out of =
the blue though, something caused that if it's the case.=20
AA
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:469b74bf@linux...
Aaron,
Hyperthreading is off. I'll double check though. I'd love to save =
the money
on those scsi cables.
What do you think about Deoxit in the female scsi jacks?
Tom
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =
news:469aead6@linux...
This might be flogging the rented and dead mule, but you did =
verify that dual core was off in this equation, and hadn't been flipped =
back on by a gremlin?
AA
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:469ad5e8@linux...
Ya Jeff,
At least half the times no C-16 was attached.
Do you think that a bad C-16 cable could cause these issues?
I'll remove them from the setup until all is well.
I know at least a few times it worked that the C-16 did also.
Tom=20
"Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message =
news:4699b378@linux...
Tom,
Stupid question, but did you ever start up without any c16's? =
If so did=20
you see the same issue?
Jeff
Bruhl wrote:
> Rod,
> I am working from a clone that was totally good with two
> fully loaded Mecs. I have to assume the drivers are good.
> I'm looking for a good vendor for SCSI cables now.
> They're called SCSI 2 right?
> http://www.m2cables.com/SCSI2toSCSI2CablesHDB50MtoML6.html
> =20
> I'm thinking of cleaning the female jacks on the mec and EDS =
to be
> sure all is well. Any sprays anyone suggests? I've got =
Deoxit.
> Good?
> Tom
>=20
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com
> <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com>> wrote in message
> news:4697f7e2$1@linux...
>=20
> Tom, sounds like it probably is a scsi issue. Your =
running xp right?
> The new
> Scherzo drivers are for xp verses 98 not for 3.0 verses =
2.x
> Come to think of it. you probably whoudn't have had any =
old drivers
> on your
> xp sys drive anyway...never mind.
> Rod
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net =
<mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Hey Rod,
> >Hiding the default project didn't help anything. I've =
never
> >had 2.?? installed on this comp so I think I'm safe =
there regarding
> >drivers.
> >
> >I am only able to intermitantly get the 442 working as =
the master.
> >I think that's do to the scsi cable issue. I need =
four new ones.
> >I am unable to get more than one EDS card working WITH =
the 442.
> >Not sure why. The ribbons are all wired correctly.
> >
> >I'm off to a hellish gigging weekend. No more time =
for hell in Paris.
> >Thanks for all your input,
> >Tom
> > "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com
> <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com>> wrote in message =3D
> >news:4697ab8a@linux...
> >
> > Did you try hiding the default ppj to see if it =
would boot up
> with a =3D
> >MEC when
> > creating a new session?=3D20
> > Rod
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net =
<mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >Guys,
> > >I'm all set with the cables and the which card is A =
bit.
> > >Rod you were right about what I was asking.
> > >
> > >In any event I scaled down to one EDS (Pretty sure =
that's card
> A =3D3D
> > >right?!!!)
> > >and plugged it into each of my two working Mecs. =
Paris will
> boot but
> > >even internal clock was never found nor were the =
in/outs on
> each Mec.
> > >The 442 on the other hand works like a champ one =
card only. I =3D
> >suspect
> > >either all my Mecs are screwy now or the SCSI =
cables are
> intermitant
> =3D
> >at
> > =3D3D
> > >best.
> > >It's working fine with the 442 so I'm sticking with =
that for today.
> > >I'll add my EDS cards one by one and see if that is =
back to normal.
> > >
> > >Thanks for the help and if I need scsi cables what =
and where to
> buy =3D
> >them
> > =3D3D
> > >would be good info too.
> > >Mr Testy
> > > "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com
> <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com>> wrote in message =
=3D3D
> > >news:469780ce$1@linux...
> > >
> > > I think Tom was asking if there was a "3.0" =
version of the
> EDS card
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >that needed
> > > to be connected to the master. The answer to that =
would be
> no.=3D3D20
> > > Is this what you were asking Tom?
> > > DJ's advice is very important though. I would do =
it, if you
> haven't
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >already.
> > > I don't want to sound like a "RTFM" kind of guy, =
but the Paris =3D
> >manual
> > =3D3D
> > >describes
> > > this procedure pretty well.
> > > It's on page 4 and 5 of the 3.0 version.
> > > It kind of sounds to me like you may not be =
hooking up the
> correct
> =3D
> >eds
> > =3D3D
> > >card
> > > to the master mec.
> > > Rod
> > > "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>> wrote in message =3D3D3D
> > > >news:46972376@linux...
> > > > This is really a novice oriented question but =
.. . .
> > > > It doesn't matter which card is the "A" card
> > > > in your system as far as Paris' ID orientation =
right?
> > > >
> > > > Yes, it does, and the orientation of the slots =
you are
> using in
> =3D
> >=3D3D3D
> > > >combination with the orientation of the ribbon =
cables will =3D
> >determine
> > =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >this. Have you changed them around during your =
reconfiguration?
> > > >
> > > > Start with a new SCSI cable and a single EDS =
card. Test each =3D
> >MEC. =3D3D
> > >Once
> > > =3D3D3D
> > > >you know if there is a problem there, add a new =
SCSI cable
> and =3D3D
> > >another =3D3D3D
> > > >card. Put different modules in the MECs so you =
can see which
> one =3D
> >is =3D3D
> > >on =3D3D3D
> > > >card A, B, C at all times. this will give you =
the info as to
> how =3D
> >the
> > =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >cards are initializing and which card is card A, =
B, C as you
> start
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one =
of 4 that
> were =3D3D
> > >working =3D3D3D
> > > >perfectly when I took my system off line. I =
can't imagine it
> being
> =3D
> >a
> > =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >problem. Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a =
serious issue
> though. =3D
> >Your
> > =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >system will not function with bad SCSI cables.
> > > >
> > > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 =
Transitional//EN">
> > > ><HTML><HEAD>
> > > ><META http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type =
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> > > >charset=3D3D3D3Diso-8859-1">
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> name=3D3D3D3DGENERATOR>
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> > > ><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20
> > > >style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: =
5px;
> MARGIN-LEFT: =3D
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> > >=3D3D3D
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0px">
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D3D20
> > > >=20
> =
href=3D3D3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>>
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >wrote =3D3D3D
> > > >in message=3D3D3D20
> > > > <A =3D
> =
>href=3D3D3D3D"news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV
> <news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV>>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>This is really a
> novice
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >oriented =3D3D3D
> > > >question but . .=3D3D3D20
> > > > .</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>It doesn't matter
> which
> =3D
> >card =3D3D
> > >is the =3D3D3D
> > > >"A"=3D3D3D20
> > > > card</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>in your system as
> far =3D
> >as =3D3D
> > >Paris' ID =3D3D3D
> > > >orientation=3D3D3D20
> > > > right?</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > > <DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, and
> the =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >orientation of
> > > =3D3D3D
> > > >the slots=3D3D3D20
> > > > you are using in combination with the =
orientation of the =3D3D
> > >ribbon=3D3D3D20
> > > > cables will determine this. Have you changed =
them around
> during
> =3D
> >=3D3D3D
> > > >your=3D3D3D20
> > > > reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>Start with a new
> SCSI =3D
> >cable =3D3D
> > >and a =3D3D3D
> > > >single EDS=3D3D3D20
> > > > card. Test each MEC. Once you know if there is =
a problem
> there,
> =3D
> >add
> > =3D3D
> > >a
> > > =3D3D3D
> > > >new SCSI=3D3D3D20
> > > > cable and another card. Put different modules =
in the MECs
> so you
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >can =3D3D3D
> > > >see which=3D3D3D20
> > > > one is on card A, B, C at all times. this will =
give you
> the info
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >as to=3D3D3D20
> > > > how the cards are initializing and which card =
is card A,
> B, C as
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >you =3D3D3D
> > > >start=3D3D3D20
> > > > adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is =
one of 4 that
> were =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >working
> > > =3D3D3D
> > > >
> > > > perfectly when I took my system off line. I =
can't imagine it =3D
> >being
> > =3D3D
> > >a =3D3D3D
> > > >problem.=3D3D3D20
> > > > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious =
issue though. Your =3D
> >system
> > =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >will not=3D3D3D20
> > > > function with bad SCSI =3D3D3D
> > > =
>cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> > >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =3D20
> > >
> > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 =
Transitional//EN">
> > ><HTML><HEAD>
> > ><META http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type =
content=3D3D3D"text/html; =3D3D
> > >charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1">
> > ><META content=3D3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" =
name=3D3D3DGENERATOR>
> > ><STYLE></STYLE>
> > ></HEAD>
> > ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>Guys,</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'm all =
set with the
> cables and
> =3D
> >the =3D3D
> > >which card is A=3D3D20
> > >bit.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Rod you =
were right about
> what I
> =3D
> >was=3D3D20
> > >asking.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>In any =
event I scaled down
> to =3D
> >one EDS =3D3D
> > >(Pretty sure=3D3D20
> > >that's card A right?!!!)</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>and =
plugged it into each
> of my =3D
> >two =3D3D
> > >working=3D3D20
> > >Mecs. Paris will boot but</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>even =
internal clock was
> never =3D
> >found nor
> > =3D3D
> > >were the=3D3D20
> > >in/outs on each Mec.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>The 442 on =
the other hand
> works
> =3D
> >like a
> > =3D3D
> > >champ one=3D3D20
> > >card only. I suspect</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>either all =
my Mecs are
> screwy =3D
> >now or =3D3D
> > >the SCSI=3D3D20
> > >cables are intermitant at best.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>It's =
working fine with the
> 442 =3D
> >so I'm =3D3D
> > >sticking with=3D3D20
> > >that for today.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'll add =
my EDS cards one
> by one
> =3D
> >and =3D3D
> > >see if that is=3D3D20
> > >back to normal.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Thanks for =
the help and if I =3D
> >need scsi
> > =3D3D
> > >cables what=3D3D20
> > >and where to buy them would be good info =
too.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Mr =
Testy</FONT></DIV>
> > ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20
> > >style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; =
MARGIN-LEFT:
> 5px; =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > > <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com=
</A
> =
<mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>=3D
> >>&g=3D3D
> > >t;=3D3D20
> > > wrote in message <A=3D3D20
> > > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D3D"news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR=
>I
> =
<news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>I>
> > =3D3D
> > >think Tom=3D3D20
> > > was asking if there was a "3.0" version of the =
EDS card that =3D3D
> > >needed<BR>to be=3D3D20
> > > connected to the master. The answer to that would =
be no. <BR>Is =3D
> >this =3D3D
> > >what you=3D3D20
> > > were asking Tom?<BR>DJ's advice is very important =
though. I
> would =3D
> >do =3D3D
> > >it, if=3D3D20
> > > you haven't already.<BR>I don't want to sound =
like a "RTFM"
> kind of
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >guy, but=3D3D20
> > > the Paris manual describes<BR>this procedure =
pretty
> well.<BR>It's =3D
> >on =3D3D
> > >page 4=3D3D20
> > > and 5 of the 3.0 version.<BR>It kind of sounds to =
me like you
> may =3D
> >not
> > =3D3D
> > >be=3D3D20
> > > hooking up the correct eds card<BR>to the master =
=3D
> >mec.<BR>Rod<BR>"DJ"=3D3D20
> > > <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net>=3D3D20
> > > wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D20
> > > =
href=3D3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>> =
=3D
> >wrote =3D3D
> > >in message=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D<BR>>news:46972376@linux...<BR>> This is =
really a =3D3D
> > >novice oriented=3D3D20
> > > question but . . .<BR>> It doesn't matter which =
card is the =3D3D
> > >"A"=3D3D20
> > > card<BR>> in your system as far as Paris' ID =
orientation=3D3D20
> > > right?<BR>><BR>> Yes, it does, and the =
orientation of the =3D3D
> > >slots=3D3D20
> > > you are using in =3D3D3D<BR>>combination with the =
orientation
> of the
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >ribbon=3D3D20
> > > cables will determine =3D3D3D<BR>>this. Have you =
changed them
> around
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >during your=3D3D20
> > > reconfiguration?<BR>><BR>> Start with a new SCSI =
cable and =3D3D
> > >a=3D3D20
> > > single EDS card. Test each MEC. =
Once<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>you know if
> there
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >is a=3D3D20
> > > problem there, add a new SCSI cable and another
> =3D3D3D<BR>>card. Put
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >different=3D3D20
> > > modules in the MECs so you can see which one is =
on
> =3D3D3D<BR>>card =3D
> >A, =3D3D
> > >B, C at=3D3D20
> > > all times. this will give you the info as to how =
the =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>cards =3D3D
> > >are=3D3D20
> > > initializing and which card is card A, B, C as =
you start =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D<BR>>adding more=3D3D20
> > > hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that =
were working =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D<BR>>perfectly=3D3D20
> > > when I took my system off line. I can't imagine =
it being a =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D20
> > > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue =
though. Your =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D<BR>>system=3D3D20
> > > will not function with bad SCSI =
cables.<BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE =3D3D
> > >HTML=3D3D20
> > > PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D3D20
> > > =
Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=3D3D20
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content=3D3D3D3D"text/html;=3D3D20
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> > >content=3D3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D3D20
> > > 6.00.6000.16414"=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > =
>name=3D3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=3D3D
> > >D><BR>><BODY=3D3D20
> > > bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20
> > > =
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> >PADDING-LEFT: =3D3D
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#000000 2px solid; =3D3D
> > >MARGIN-RIGHT:=3D3D20
> > > 0px"><BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> <DIV>"Tom =
=3D3D
> > >Bruhl"=3D3D20
> > > <<A=3D3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:=
arp=3D
> >egi=3D3D
> > >o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D3D20
> > > wrote =3D3D3D<BR>>in message=3D3D3D20<BR>> <A =
href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:=
469=3D
> >723=3D3D
> > =
>76@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=3D3D
> > >p;=3D3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>This =
is really a =3D3D
> > >novice oriented=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D<BR>>question but . .=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D3D20
> > > .</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D3D
> > >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D3D2>It doesn't matter which card is =
the =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D<BR>>"A"=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> > > card</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D3D
> > >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D3D2>in your system as far as Paris' =
ID=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D<BR>>orientation=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> > > right?</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D3D
> > >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> > ><DIV><BR>> =3D3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Yes, =
it does, and
> the =3D3D
> > >orientation=3D3D20
> > > of<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>the slots=3D3D3D20<BR>> you are =
using in =3D3D
> > >combination with=3D3D20
> > > the orientation of the ribbon=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
cables will
> determine =3D3D
> > >this.=3D3D20
> > > Have you changed them around during
> =3D3D3D<BR>>your=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
> > >
> > > reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> > ><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> > > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>> =3D3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>Start with a new
> SCSI =3D3D
> > >cable and a=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D<BR>>single EDS=3D3D3D20<BR>> card. Test =
each MEC. Once
> you =3D3D
> > >know if=3D3D20
> > > there is a problem there, add =
a<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>new =3D3D
> > >SCSI=3D3D3D20<BR>> cable=3D3D20
> > > and another card. Put different modules in the =
MECs so you
> can =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D<BR>>see=3D3D20
> > > which=3D3D3D20<BR>> one is on card A, B, C at all =
times. this =3D3D
> > >will give you=3D3D20
> > > the info =3D3D3D<BR>>as to=3D3D3D20<BR>> how the =
cards are =3D3D
> > >initializing and=3D3D20
> > > which card is card A, B, C as you =
=3D3D3D<BR>>start=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
> > >adding more=3D3D20
> > > hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that =
were=3D3D20
> > > working<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>><BR>> perfectly when I =
took my system =3D3D
> > >off line. I=3D3D20
> > > can't imagine it being a =
=3D3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D3D20<BR>> Bent =3D3D
> > >pins on SCSI=3D3D20
> > > cables can be a serious issue though. Your system =
=3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>will=3D3D20
> > > not=3D3D3D20<BR>> function with bad SCSI=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > =
>=3D3D3D<BR>>cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>=3D3D
> > >;</BODY></HTML><BR>><BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
> > ><DIV><FONT size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft =
Lockspam to fight =3D
> >spam, =3D3D
> > >and=3D3D20
> > >you?<BR><A=3D3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com=
/re
> =
<http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re>=3D
> >fer=3D3D
> > >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 =
Transitional//EN">
> ><HTML><HEAD>
> ><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type =
content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
> >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
> ><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" =
name=3D3DGENERATOR>
> ><STYLE></STYLE>
> ></HEAD>
> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hey =
Rod,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hiding the =
default project didn't
> help=3D20
> >anything. I've never</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>had 2.?? =
installed on this comp
> so I =3D
> >think I'm safe=3D20
> >there regarding</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2>drivers.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am only able to =
intermitantly
> get the
> =3D
> >442 working=3D20
> >as the master.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I think that's do =
to the scsi cable =3D
> >issue. I=3D20
> >need four new ones.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am unable to =
get more than one
> EDS =3D
> >card working=3D20
> >WITH the 442.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Not sure why. The =
ribbons are all =3D
> >wired=3D20
> >correctly.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm off to a =
hellish gigging =3D
> >weekend. No more=3D20
> >time for hell in Paris.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks for all =
your
> input,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; =
MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A=
>&g
> =
<mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g>=3D
> >t;=3D20
> > wrote in message <A=3D20
> >=20
> =
href=3D3D"news:4697ab8a@linux">news:4697ab8a@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Did
> =
<news:4697ab8a@linux">news:4697ab8a@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Did> =3D
> >you try=3D20
> > hiding the default ppj to see if it would boot up =
with a MEC =3D
> >when<BR>creating=3D20
> > a new session? <BR>Rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> > =
href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20
> =
<mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20>
> > wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Guys,<BR>>I'm all set with the =
cables =3D
> >and the=3D20
> > which card is A bit.<BR>>Rod you were right about =
what I was=3D20
> > asking.<BR>><BR>>In any event I scaled down to one =
EDS (Pretty =3D
> >sure=3D20
> > that's card A =3D3D<BR>>right?!!!)<BR>>and plugged =
it into each of =3D
> >my two=3D20
> > working Mecs. Paris will boot but<BR>>even internal =
clock was =3D
> >never=3D20
> > found nor were the in/outs on each Mec.<BR>>The 442 =
on the other =3D
> >hand works=3D20
> > like a champ one card only. I suspect<BR>>either all =
my Mecs =3D
> >are=3D20
> > screwy now or the SCSI cables are intermitant =3D
> >at<BR>=3D3D<BR>>best.<BR>>It's=3D20
> > working fine with the 442 so I'm sticking with that =
for =3D
> >today.<BR>>I'll add=3D20
> > my EDS cards one by one and see if that is back =
to=3D20
> > normal.<BR>><BR>>Thanks for the help and if I need =
scsi cables =3D
> >what and=3D20
> > where to buy them<BR>=3D3D<BR>>would be good info =
too.<BR>>Mr=3D20
> > Testy<BR>> "Rod Lincoln" <<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A=
>&g
> =
<mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g>=3D
> >t;=3D20
> > wrote in message =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>news:469780ce$1@linux...<BR>><BR>> I=3D20
> > think Tom was asking if there was a "3.0" version of =
the EDS card=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>that needed<BR>> to be connected to the =
master. =3D
> >The answer=3D20
> > to that would be no.=3D3D20<BR>> Is this what you =
were asking=3D20
> > Tom?<BR>> DJ's advice is very important though. I =
would do =3D
> >it, if you=3D20
> > haven't =3D3D<BR>>already.<BR>> I don't want to =
sound like a =3D
> >"RTFM"=3D20
> > kind of guy, but the Paris =3D
> >manual<BR>=3D3D<BR>>describes<BR>> this=3D20
> > procedure pretty well.<BR>> It's on page 4 and 5 of =
the 3.0=3D20
> > version.<BR>> It kind of sounds to me like you may =
not be =3D
> >hooking up=3D20
> > the correct eds<BR>=3D3D<BR>>card<BR>> to the =
master=3D20
> > mec.<BR>> Rod<BR>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ =3D
> >dot _=3D20
> > net> wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> =3D20
> > ><BR>> > "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> > =
href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>> =
wrote =3D
> >in message=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>> >news:46972376@linux...<BR>> =3D
> >> This is=3D20
> > really a novice oriented question but . . .<BR>> > =
=3D
> >It=3D20
> > doesn't matter which card is the "A" card<BR>> > in =
=3D
> >your=3D20
> > system as far as Paris' ID orientation right?<BR>> =
=3D
> >><BR>> =3D20
> > > Yes, it does, and the orientation of the slots you =
are =3D
> >using in=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>> >combination with the orientation of =
the ribbon =3D
> >cables=3D20
> > will determine<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >this. Have =
you =3D
> >changed them=3D20
> > around during your reconfiguration?<BR>> ><BR>> =
=3D20
> > > Start with a new SCSI cable and a single EDS card. =
Test =3D
> >each MEC.=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>Once<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>> >you know if =3D
> >there is a=3D20
> > problem there, add a new SCSI cable and =
=3D3D<BR>>another =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >card. Put different modules in the MECs so you can =
see which one =3D
> >is=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>on =3D3D3D<BR>> >card A, B, C at all =
times. this =3D
> >will give=3D20
> > you the info as to how the<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =
>cards =3D
> >are=3D20
> > initializing and which card is card A, B, C as you =
start=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >adding more hardware. the =
MEC i =3D
> >sent you is one=3D20
> > of 4 that were =3D3D<BR>>working =3D3D3D<BR>> =
>perfectly =3D
> >when I took my=3D20
> > system off line. I can't imagine it being =3D
> >a<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >problem. Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious =
issue though.=3D20
> > Your<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >system will not =
function =3D
> >with bad SCSI=3D20
> > cables.<BR>> ><BR>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC=3D20
> > "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"><BR>> =3D20
> > ><HTML><HEAD><BR>> ><META=3D20
> > http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type =
content=3D3D3D3D"text/html; =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >charset=3D3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>> ><META =3D
> >content=3D3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20
> > 6.00.6000.16414" name=3D3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>> =3D20
> > ><STYLE></STYLE><BR>> =3D
> >></HEAD><BR>> =3D20
> > ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>> =3D
> >><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> > dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
>style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =3D
> >0px;=3D20
> > PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: =3D
> >0px"><BR>> =3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
> >size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20
> > </DIV><BR>> > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl"=3D20
> > <<A=3D3D3D20<BR>> > href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arp=
egi=3D
> >o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>wrote =3D3D3D<BR>> >in =3D
> >message=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D20
> > <A href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:469=
723=3D
> =
>76@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=3D
> >p;=3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>This =
=3D
> >is really a=3D20
> > novice =3D3D<BR>>oriented =3D3D3D<BR>> >question but =
..=3D20
> > .=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D
> >.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>It =
=3D
> >doesn't matter=3D20
> > which card =3D3D<BR>>is the =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >>"A"=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > card</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>in your =
system as =3D
> >far as=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>Paris' ID =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >>orientation=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > right?</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20
> > </DIV><BR>> > <DIV><BR>> =3D
> >> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Yes, it =
does, and =3D
> >the=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>orientation of<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>> >the=3D20
> > slots=3D3D3D20<BR>> > you are using in combination =
=3D
> >with the=3D20
> > orientation of the =3D3D<BR>>ribbon=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =
=3D
> >cables will=3D20
> > determine this. Have you changed them around during =
=3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >your=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D20
> > reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20
> > </DIV><BR>> > <DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2>Start with a new SCSI cable =
=3D3D<BR>>and a =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >single EDS=3D3D3D20<BR>> > card. Test each MEC. =3D
> >Once you=3D20
> > know if there is a problem there, =
add<BR>=3D3D<BR>>a<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>> >new SCSI=3D3D3D20<BR>> > cable =3D
> >and another=3D20
> > card. Put different modules in the MECs so you =
=3D3D<BR>>can =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >see which=3D3D3D20<BR>> > one is on card A, B, C =
=3D
> >at all=3D20
> > times. this will give you the info =
=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >>as=3D20
> > to=3D3D3D20<BR>> > how the cards are initializing =
and =3D
> >which card=3D20
> > is card A, B, C as =3D3D<BR>>you =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >>start=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of =
4 that =3D
> >were=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>working<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >><BR>> > =3D20
> > perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't =
imagine it=3D20
> > being<BR>=3D3D<BR>>a =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >>problem.=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue =
though. =3D
> >Your=3D20
> > system<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >will =3D
> >not=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > function with bad SCSI =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> >>cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></B=3D
> >ODY></HTML><BR>> =3D20
> > ><BR>> ><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>I choose =3D
> >Polesoft=3D20
> > Lockspam to fight spam, and=3D20
> > you?<BR>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =3D20
> > <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML =
4.0=3D20
> > Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=3D20
> > http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type =
content=3D3D3D"text/html;=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =3D
> >content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20
> > 6.00.2800.1400"=3D20
> > =3D
> >name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=3D
> >D><BR>><BODY=3D20
> > bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > =3D
> >size=3D3D3D2>Guys,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'm all set with the =
cables and the =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>which=3D20
> > card is =3D
> >A=3D3D20<BR>>bit.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Rod you were right =
about what I=3D20
> > =3D
> >was=3D3D20<BR>>asking.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FO=3D
> >NT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D
> ></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>In any event I scaled =
down to one EDS=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>(Pretty sure=3D3D20<BR>>that's card A=3D20
> > right?!!!)</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>and plugged it into each of my two=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>working=3D3D20<BR>>Mecs. Paris will =
boot=3D20
> > but</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =3D
> >
> > size=3D3D3D2>even internal clock was never found =3D
> >nor<BR>=3D3D<BR>>were=3D20
> > the=3D3D20<BR>>in/outs on each=3D20
> > Mec.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>The 442 on the other hand works like =
=3D
> >a<BR>=3D3D<BR>>champ=3D20
> > one=3D3D20<BR>>card only. I=3D20
> > suspect</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>either all my Mecs are screwy now or =
=3D3D<BR>>the=3D20
> > SCSI=3D3D20<BR>>cables are intermitant at=3D20
> > best.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>It's working fine with the 442 so I'm =
=3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>sticking=3D20
> > with=3D3D20<BR>>that for=3D20
> > today.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>I'll add my EDS cards one by one and =
=3D3D<BR>>see if =3D
> >that=3D20
> > is=3D3D20<BR>>back to=3D20
> > normal.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>Thanks for the help and if I need =3D
> >scsi<BR>=3D3D<BR>>cables=3D20
> > what=3D3D20<BR>>and where to buy them would be good =
info=3D20
> > too.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>Mr=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>Testy</FONT></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D=3D
> >3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=3D20
> > 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
=3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: =3D
> >#000000 2px=3D20
> > solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Rod =
Lincoln"=3D20
> > <<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A=
>&a=3D
> =
>mp;g'>mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</=3D
> >A>&g</A>=3D3D<BR>>t;=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > wrote in message <A=3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D'news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>I=
'>n=3D
> =
>ews:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV>&l=3D
> >t;BR>I</A><BR>=3D3D<BR>>think=3D20
> > Tom=3D3D20<BR>> was asking if there was a "3.0" =
version of the =3D
> >EDS card=3D20
> > that =3D3D<BR>>needed<BR>to be=3D3D20<BR>> connected =
to =3D
> >the master.=3D20
> > The answer to that would be no. <BR>Is this =
=3D3D<BR>>what=3D20
> > you=3D3D20<BR>> were asking Tom?<BR>DJ's advice is =
very =3D
> >important=3D20
> > though. I would do =3D3D<BR>>it, if=3D3D20<BR>> you =
haven't=3D20
> > already.<BR>I don't want to sound like a "RTFM" kind =
of =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>guy,=3D20
> > but=3D3D20<BR>> the Paris manual describes<BR>this =
=3D
> >procedure pretty=3D20
> > well.<BR>It's on =3D3D<BR>>page 4=3D3D20<BR>> and 5 =
of =3D
> >the 3.0=3D20
> > version.<BR>It kind of sounds to me like you =
may=3D20
> > not<BR>=3D3D<BR>>be=3D3D20<BR>> hooking up the =
correct eds=3D20
> > card<BR>to the master =3D
> >mec.<BR>Rod<BR>"DJ"=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> "Tom =3D
> >Bruhl"=3D20
> > <<A=3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arp=
egi=3D
> >o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D20
> > wrote =3D3D<BR>>in message=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>news:46972376@linux...<BR>> This is =
really =3D
> >a=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>novice oriented=3D3D20<BR>> question but . =
.. =3D
> >.<BR>> It=3D20
> > doesn't matter which card is the =
=3D3D<BR>>"A"=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > card<BR>> in your system as far as Paris' ID=3D20
> > orientation=3D3D20<BR>> right?<BR>><BR>> Yes, =3D
> >it does,=3D20
> > and the orientation of the =
=3D3D<BR>>slots=3D3D20<BR>> you are =3D
> >using in=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>combination with the orientation of =
the=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>ribbon=3D3D20<BR>> cables will determine =
=3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>this.=3D20
> > Have you changed them around =3D3D<BR>>during =
your=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >
> > reconfiguration?<BR>><BR>> Start with a new SCSI =3D
> >cable and=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>a=3D3D20<BR>> single EDS card. Test each =
MEC.=3D20
> > Once<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>you know if there =
=3D3D<BR>>is=3D20
> > a=3D3D20<BR>> problem there, add a new SCSI cable =
and another=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>card. Put =
=3D3D<BR>>different=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >modules in the=3D20
> > MECs so you can see which one is on =3D3D3D<BR>>card =
A, =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>B, C=3D20
> > at=3D3D20<BR>> all times. this will give you the =
info as to how =3D
> >the=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>cards =3D3D<BR>>are=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >initializing and which=3D20
> > card is card A, B, C as you start =
=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>adding =3D
> >
> > more=3D3D20<BR>> hardware. the MEC i sent you is one =
of 4 that =3D
> >were=3D20
> > working =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>perfectly=3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D
> >when I took my=3D20
> > system off line. I can't imagine it being a=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D20<BR>> Bent pins =
on =3D
> >SCSI cables=3D20
> > can be a serious issue though. Your=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>system=3D3D20<BR>> will not =
=3D
> >function with bad=3D20
> > SCSI cables.<BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>HTML=3D3D20<BR>> PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML =
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> >4.0=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
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> > http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type =3D
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> > =3D3D<BR>>content=3D3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > 6.00.6000.16414"=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> =
>=3D3D<BR>>name=3D3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE&=3D
> >gt;<BR>></HEA=3D3D<BR>>D><BR>><BODY=3D3D20<BR>&=3D
> >gt; =3D20
> > =3D
> >bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D
> >
> > =
dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; =3D
> >PADDING-LEFT:=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>5px;=3D3D20<BR>> MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT:=3D20
> > #000000 2px solid; =
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> > 0px"><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D
> ><DIV>"Tom=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>Bruhl"=3D3D20<BR>> <<A=3D3D3D20<BR>>=3D20
> > href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> =
>=3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net&l=3D=
> =
>t;/A'>mailto:arpegi=3D3D<BR>>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net<=3D
> >;/A</A>>>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > wrote =3D3D3D<BR>>in message=3D3D3D20<BR>> <A=3D20
> > href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> =
>=3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>=3D
> =
>;...</DIV'>news:469723=3D3D<BR>>76@linux">news:46972376@linux&l=3D
> >t;/A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=3D3D<BR>>p;=3D3D20=3D
> ><BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>This is =
really a=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>novice oriented=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>question but .=3D20
> > .=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > .</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =
size=3D3D3D3D2>It =3D
> >doesn't matter which=3D20
> > card is the =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>"A"=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D
> >=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > card</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =
size=3D3D3D3D2>in your =3D
> >system as far=3D20
> > as Paris' ID=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>orientation=3D3D3D20<BR>>=3D20
> > =3D3D20<BR>> right?</FONT></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> > <DIV><FONT =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>>=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>><DIV><BR>> =3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> ><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, and =
the=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>orientation=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >of<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>the=3D20
> > slots=3D3D3D20<BR>> you are using in =
=3D3D<BR>>combination=3D20
> > with=3D3D20<BR>> the orientation of the =3D
> >ribbon=3D3D3D20<BR>> cables=3D20
> > will determine =3D3D<BR>>this.=3D3D20<BR>> Have you =
changed =3D
> >them around=3D20
> > during =3D3D3D<BR>>your=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>><BR>> =3D20
> > reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Start =
with a new =3D
> >SCSI=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>cable and a=3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D3D3D<BR>>single=3D20
> > EDS=3D3D3D20<BR>> card. Test each MEC. Once you =
=3D3D<BR>>know =3D
> >
> > if=3D3D20<BR>> there is a problem there, add=3D20
> > a<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>new =3D3D<BR>>SCSI=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D
> >
> > cable=3D3D20<BR>> and another card. Put different =
modules in =3D
> >the MECs so=3D20
> > you can =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>see=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > which=3D3D3D20<BR>> one is on card A, B, C at all =
times. this=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>will give you=3D3D20<BR>> the info =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>as=3D20
> > to=3D3D3D20<BR>> how the cards are =
=3D3D<BR>>initializing=3D20
> > and=3D3D20<BR>> which card is card A, B, C as =
you=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>start=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D3D<BR>>adding=3D20
> > more=3D3D20<BR>> hardware. the MEC i sent you is one =
of 4 that=3D20
> > were=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >working<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>><BR>>=3D20
> > perfectly when I took my system =3D3D<BR>>off line. =
=3D
> >I=3D3D20<BR>> can't=3D20
> > imagine it being a =
=3D3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >Bent=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>pins on SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> cables can be a =
serious =3D
> >issue though.=3D20
> > Your system =3D3D3D<BR>>will=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >not=3D3D3D20<BR>>=3D20
> > function with bad SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV>=3D
> >;</BLOCKQUOTE>=3D3D<BR>>;</BODY></HTML><BR>>&=3D
> >lt;BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to =
fight =3D
> >spam,=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>=3D3D<BR>>and=3D3D20<BR>>you?<BR><A=3D3D20<BR>>href=3D3D3D "<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
fer=3D
> =
>'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=3D=
> >>=3D3D<BR>>.html</A>=3D20
> > =3D
> ></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML><BR>><BR>><BR></=3D
> >BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> >
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Intermitant success is the best I've =
got right=20
now.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I plan to install Paris on another =
comp, try each=20
EDS</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>individually and each SCSI cable =
individually=20
with the 442. If</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>all goes well or not I will have an =
answer. =20
Next, try the same in </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the actual </FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>Paris rig=20
without the Magma. If I can get regular</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Paris boots there then it's the Magma =
power=20
supply</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>or Magma cable. I'm thinking =
power=20
supply. I always</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>had all 5 EDS cards showing even when =
the=20
hardware</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>attached to them wasn't.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Does this sound like a logical approach =
to=20
you?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm sick of chasing my =
tail.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"Aaron Allen" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:know-spam@not_here.dude">know-spam@not_here.dude</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A =
href=3D"news:469bfc6c@linux">news:469bfc6c@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I don't s'pose it could hurt if =
they're=20
tarnished. My experiences though with the issue your seeing have been =
bad SCSI=20
cables. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Start small, test every little =
component, unless=20
you've got a bent up input pin somewhere (and I'd light them well and=20
magnifying lense them all) I'm having a hard time buying that you have =
4 dead=20
cables out of the blue though, something caused that if it's the case. =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>AA</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A =
href=3D"news:469b74bf@linux">news:469b74bf@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Aaron,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hyperthreading is off. I'll =
double check=20
though. I'd love to save the money</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>on those scsi cables.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What do you think about Deoxit in =
the female=20
scsi jacks?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"Aaron Allen" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:know-spam@not_here.dude">know-spam@not_here.dude</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
href=3D"news:469aead6@linux">news:469aead6@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This might be flogging =
the rented and=20
dead mule, but you did verify that dual core was off in this=20
equation, and hadn't been flipped back on by a =
gremlin?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><BR>AA</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A =
href=3D"news:469ad5e8@linux">news:469ad5e8@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ya Jeff,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>At least half the times no C-16 =
was=20
attached.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Do you think that a bad C-16 =
cable could=20
cause these issues?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll remove them from the setup =
until all=20
is well.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I know at least a few =
times it=20
worked that the C-16 did also.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"Jeff Hoover" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>> wrote in =
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:4699b378@linux">news:4699b378@linux</A>...</DIV>Tom,<BR><BR>=
Stupid=20
question, but did you ever start up without any c16's? =
If so did=20
<BR>you see the same issue?<BR><BR>Jeff<BR><BR><BR>Bruhl=20
wrote:<BR>> Rod,<BR>> I am working from a clone that was =
totally=20
good with two<BR>> fully loaded Mecs. I have to =
assume the=20
drivers are good.<BR>> I'm looking for a good vendor for =
SCSI=20
cables now.<BR>> They're called SCSI 2 right?<BR>> <A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.m2cables.com/SCSI2toSCSI2CablesHDB50MtoML6.html">http:=
//www.m2cables.com/SCSI2toSCSI2CablesHDB50MtoML6.html</A><BR >> =20
<BR>> I'm thinking of cleaning the female jacks on the mec =
and EDS=20
to be<BR>> sure all is well. Any sprays anyone=20
suggests? I've got Deoxit.<BR>> Good?<BR>> =
Tom<BR>>=20
<BR>> "Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A><B=
R>> =20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.co=
m</A>>>=20
wrote in message<BR>> <A=20
=
href=3D"news:4697f7e2$1@linux">news:4697f7e2$1@linux</A>...<BR>>=20
<BR>> Tom, sounds like it probably =
is a=20
scsi issue. Your running xp =
right?<BR>> The=20
new<BR>> Scherzo drivers are for xp =
verses=20
98 not for 3.0 verses 2.x<BR>> Come =
to=20
think of it. you probably whoudn't have had any old=20
drivers<BR>> on=20
your<BR>> xp sys drive =
anyway...never=20
mind.<BR>> =20
Rod<BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A> =
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">mailto:arpegio@comcast.net</A>>>=
;=20
wrote:<BR> > =2 0
><BR> > =2 0
><BR>> >Hey=20
Rod,<BR>> >Hiding the =
default=20
project didn't help anything. I've=20
never<BR>> >had 2.?? =
installed on=20
this comp so I think I'm safe there=20
regarding<BR> > =2 0
>drivers.<BR> > =2 0
><BR>> >I am only able =
to=20
intermitantly get the 442 working as the=20
master.<BR>> >I think =
that's do to=20
the scsi cable issue. I need four new=20
ones.<BR>> >I am unable to =
get=20
more than one EDS card working WITH the=20
442.<BR>> >Not sure =
why. The=20
ribbons are all wired =
correctly.<BR> > =2 0
><BR>> >I'm off to a =
hellish=20
gigging weekend. No more time for hell in=20
Paris.<BR>> >Thanks for =
all your=20
input,<BR> > =2 0
>Tom<BR>> > "Rod =
Lincoln"=20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A><B=
R>> =20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.co=
m</A>>>=20
wrote in message =3D<BR> > =2 0
=
>news:4697ab8a@linux...<BR> > =2 0
><BR>> > Did you =
try=20
hiding the default ppj to see if it would boot=20
up<BR>> with a=20
=3D<BR>> >MEC=20
when<BR>> > creating =
a new=20
session?=3D20<BR>> > =
Rod<BR>> > "Tom =
Bruhl"=20
<<A =
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>=20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">mailto:arpegio@comcast.net</A>>>=
;<BR>> =20
wrote:<BR>> > =20
><BR>> > =20
><BR>> > =20
>Guys,<BR>> > =
>I'm all=20
set with the cables and the which card is A=20
bit.<BR>> > >Rod =
you were=20
right about what I was =
asking.<BR> > =2 0
> ><BR>> =
> =20
>In any event I scaled down to one EDS (Pretty sure that's=20
card<BR>> A=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>right?!!!)<BR>> =
> =20
>and plugged it into each of my two working Mecs. =
Paris=20
will<BR>> boot=20
but<BR>> > >even =
internal=20
clock was never found nor were the in/outs=20
on<BR>> each=20
Mec.<BR>> > >The =
442 on=20
the other hand works like a champ one card only. I=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>suspect<BR>> > =20
>either all my Mecs are screwy now or the SCSI cables=20
are<BR>> =20
intermitant<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>at<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>best.<BR>> > =
>It's=20
working fine with the 442 so I'm sticking with that for=20
today.<BR>> > =
>I'll add=20
my EDS cards one by one and see if that is back to=20
normal.<BR>> > =20
><BR>> > =
>Thanks for=20
the help and if I need scsi cables what and where=20
to<BR>> buy=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>them<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>would be good=20
info too.<BR>> > =
>Mr=20
Testy<BR>> > =
> "Rod=20
Lincoln" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A><B=
R>> =20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.co=
m</A>>>=20
wrote in message =3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
=
>news:469780ce$1@linux...<BR> > =2 0
> ><BR>> =
> =20
> I think Tom was asking if there was a "3.0" version =
of=20
the<BR>> EDS=20
card<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =
>that=20
needed<BR>> > =
> to=20
be connected to the master. The answer to that would=20
be<BR>> =20
no.=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
Is this what you were asking=20
Tom?<BR>> > =
> DJ's=20
advice is very important though. I would do it, if=20
you<BR>> =20
haven't<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>already.<BR>> > =20
> I don't want to sound like a "RTFM" kind of guy, =
but the=20
Paris =3D<BR> > =2 0
>manual<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>describes<BR>> > =
> this procedure pretty=20
well.<BR>> > =
> It's=20
on page 4 and 5 of the 3.0=20
version.<BR>> > =
> =20
It kind of sounds to me like you may not be hooking up=20
the<BR>> =20
correct<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>eds<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>card<BR>> > =
> =20
to the master mec.<BR>> =
> =20
> Rod<BR>> =
> =20
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net>=20
wrote:<BR>> > =
> =20
><BR>> > =
> =20
><BR>> > =
> =20
><BR>> > =
> =20
> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A><BR>> =
=20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">mailto:arpegio@comcast.net</A>>>=
;=20
wrote in message =3D3D3D<BR>> =
> > =20
=
>news:46972376@linux...<BR> > =2 0
> > > This is really a novice =
oriented=20
question but . . .<BR>> =
> =20
> > It doesn't matter which card is the "A"=20
card<BR>> > =
> =20
> in your system as far as Paris' ID orientation=20
right?<BR>> > =
> =20
><BR>> > =
> =20
> Yes, it does, and the orientation of the slots you=20
are<BR>> using=20
in<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>combination with the orientation of the ribbon cables will =
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>determine<BR>> > =
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>this. Have you changed them around during your=20
reconfiguration?<BR>> =
> =20
> ><BR>> =
> =20
> > Start with a new SCSI cable and a single =
EDS=20
card. Test each =3D<BR>> =
>MEC.=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>Once<BR>> > =
> =20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>you know if there is a problem there, add a new SCSI=20
cable<BR>> and=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>another=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>card. Put different modules in the MECs so you can see=20
which<BR>> one=20
=3D<BR>> >is=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >on=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>card A, B, C at all times. this will give you the info as=20
to<BR>> how=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>the<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>cards are initializing and which card is card A, B, C as=20
you<BR>> =20
start<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4=20
that<BR>> were=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>working=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't imagine=20
it<BR>> =20
being<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>a<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>problem. Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious=20
issue<BR>> though.=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>Your<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>system will not function with bad SCSI=20
cables.<BR>> > =
> =20
><BR>> > =
> =20
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> > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl"=20
<<A=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> > <BR>> =
href=3D3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A><BR>> =
=20
<<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>><BR>> =
=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =
>wrote=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>in message=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> > <A =
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:469723=
76@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV</A><BR>> &n=
bsp; =20
<<A=20
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href=3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:469723=
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=20
> > > <DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>This is really =
a<BR>> =20
novice<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =
>oriented=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>question but . =
..=3D3D3D20<BR> > =2 0
> > > =20
=
..</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> > > <DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>It doesn't =
matter<BR>> =20
which<BR>> =20
=3D<BR>> >card=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >is =
the=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>"A"=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> > =20
=
card</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> > > <DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>in your system =
as<BR>> far=20
=3D<BR>> >as=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>Paris' ID=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>orientation=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> > > =20
=
right?</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> > > <DIV><FONT =
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</DIV><BR>> > =20
> > =20
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> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, =
and<BR>> the=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>orientation of<BR>> =
> =20
> =3D3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
> >the =
slots=3D3D3D20<BR> > =2 0
> > > you are using in combination =
with the=20
orientation of the =3D3D<BR>> =
> =
>ribbon=3D3D3D20<BR> > =2 0
> > > cables will determine this. =
Have you=20
changed them around<BR>> =20
during<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>your=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> > =20
=
reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR >> =
=20
> > > <DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> > =20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>Start with a =
new<BR>> SCSI=20
=3D<BR>> >cable=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >and =
a=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>single EDS=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> > card. Test each MEC. Once you know if =
there is a=20
problem<BR>> =20
there,<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>add<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>a<BR>> > =
> =20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>new SCSI=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> > cable and another card. Put different =
modules in=20
the MECs<BR>> so=20
you<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =
>can=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>see which=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> > one is on card A, B, C at all times. =
this will=20
give you<BR>> the=20
info<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>as to=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> > how the cards are initializing and which =
card is=20
card A,<BR>> B, C=20
as<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =
>you=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>start=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> > adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you =
is one=20
of 4 that<BR>> were=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>working<BR>> > =20
> =3D3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
> ><BR>> =
> =20
> > perfectly when I took my system off =
line. I=20
can't imagine it =3D<BR> > =2 0
>being<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > >a=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>problem.=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a =
serious issue=20
though. Your =3D<BR> > =2 0
>system<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>will not=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> > function with bad SCSI=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
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choose=20
Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and=20
you?<BR>> > =20
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size=3D3D3D2>Guys,</FONT></DIV&a mp;gt; <BR>> &=
nbsp; =20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>I'm=20
all set with the<BR>> cables=20
and<BR>> =20
=3D<BR>> >the=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>which card is=20
A=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
=
>bit.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>Rod=20
you were right about<BR>> what=20
I<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>was=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
=
>asking.</FONT></DIV><BR >>  =
;=20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> > =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>In =
any event I=20
scaled down<BR>> to=20
=3D<BR>> >one EDS=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>(Pretty=20
sure=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>that's=20
card A=20
=
right?!!!)</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
=20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>and=20
plugged it into each<BR>> of my=20
=3D<BR>> >two=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>working=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
>Mecs. Paris will boot=20
=
but</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>even=20
internal clock was<BR>> never=20
=3D<BR>> >found=20
nor<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>were=20
the=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>in/outs=20
on each=20
=
Mec.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>The=20
442 on the other hand<BR>> =20
works<BR>> =20
=3D<BR>> >like=20
a<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>champ=20
one=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>card=20
only. I=20
=
suspect</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>either=20
all my Mecs are<BR>> screwy=20
=3D<BR>> >now or=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >the =
SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>cables=20
are intermitant at=20
=
best.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>It's=20
working fine with the<BR>> 442=20
=3D<BR>> >so I'm=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>sticking=20
with=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>that=20
for=20
=
today.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>I'll=20
add my EDS cards one<BR>> by=20
one<BR>> =20
=3D<BR>> >and=20
=3D3D<BR>> > >see =
if that=20
is=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>back to=20
=
normal.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> > =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>Thanks for the=20
help and if I =3D<BR>> =
>need=20
scsi<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>cables=20
what=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>and=20
where to buy them would be good info=20
=
too.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>Mr=20
=
Testy</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> =20
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><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20<BR> > =2 0
> >style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: =
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> =20
<DIV>"Rod Lincoln"=20
<<A=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> =3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
=3D<BR>> =
>>href=3D3D3D"<A=20
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> =20
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"Tom=20
Bruhl" <<A=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> href=3D3D3D"<A=20
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> =20
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> =20
single EDS card. Test each MEC. =
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problem there, add a new SCSI cable and=20
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> =20
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the default=20
project didn't<BR>> =20
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I've=20
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><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>had 2.?? =
installed on=20
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=20
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</DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am only =
able to=20
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the<BR>> =20
=3D<BR>> >442=20
working=3D20<BR>> >as the=20
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master.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I think =
that's do to=20
the scsi cable =3D<BR>> =
>issue.=20
I=3D20<BR>> >need four new =
=
ones.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am =
unable to get=20
more than one<BR>> EDS=20
=3D<BR>> >card=20
working=3D20<BR>> >WITH =
the=20
=
442.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Not sure =
why. The=20
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=
>correctly.</FONT></DIV><BR >> &n=
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><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
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</DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm off =
to a hellish=20
gigging =3D<BR>> >weekend. =
No=20
more=3D20<BR>> >time for =
hell in=20
=
Paris.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks =
for all=20
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that's=20
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=3D<BR> > =2 0
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> found=20
nor were the in/outs on each Mec.<BR>>The 442 on the =
other=20
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works=3D20<BR>> > =
like a champ=20
one card only. I suspect<BR>>either all my Mecs=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>are=3D20<BR>> > =
screwy now=20
or the SCSI cables are intermitant=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
=
>at<BR>=3D3D<BR>>b est.<BR>>It's=3D20 <BR>>&n=
bsp; =20
> working fine with the 442 so I'm sticking with that =
for=20
=3D<BR>> =
>today.<BR>>I'll=20
add=3D20<BR>> > my =
EDS cards=20
one by one and see if that is back=20
to=3D20<BR>> > =20
normal.<BR>><BR>>T hanks for the help and if =
I need=20
scsi cables =3D<BR>> >what =
and=3D20<BR>> > =
where to buy=20
them<BR>=3D3D<BR>>would be good info=20
=
too.<BR>>Mr=3D20<BR> > =2 0
> Testy<BR>> "Rod Lincoln"=20
<<A=3D20<BR>> =
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>t;=3D20<BR>> > =
wrote in=20
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>=3D3D<BR>>news:469780ce$1@linux...<BR>><BR>&g=
t;=20
I=3D20<BR>> > think =
Tom was=20
asking if there was a "3.0" version of the EDS=20
card=3D20<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>>that needed<BR>> to be connected =
to the=20
master. =3D<BR>> >The=20
answer=3D20<BR>> > =
to that=20
would be no.=3D3D20<BR>> Is this what you were=20
asking=3D20<BR>> > =20
Tom?<BR>> DJ's advice is very important though. I =
would do=20
=3D<BR>> >it, if=20
you=3D20<BR>> > =
haven't=20
=3D3D<BR>>already.<BR>&am p;gt; I don't want to =
sound like a=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>"RTFM"=3D20<BR>> =
> kind of=20
guy, but the Paris =3D<BR> > =2 0
>manual<BR>=3D3D<BR>& gt;describes<BR>> =
this=3D20<BR>> > =
procedure=20
pretty well.<BR>> It's on page 4 and 5 of the=20
3.0=3D20<BR>> > =20
version.<BR>> It kind of sounds to me like you may =
not be=20
=3D<BR>> >hooking=20
up=3D20<BR>> > the =
correct=20
eds<BR>=3D3D<BR>>card& ;lt;BR>> to the=20
master=3D20<BR>> > =20
mec.<BR>> Rod<BR>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ =
animas _=20
=3D<BR>> >dot=20
_=3D20<BR>> > =
net>=20
wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> > =20
><BR>> > "Tom Bruhl"=20
<<A=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
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href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
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wrote =3D<BR>> >in=20
message=3D20<BR>> > =20
=3D3D3D<BR>> >news:46972376@linux...<BR>> =
=3D<BR>> >> This=20
is=3D20<BR>> > =
really a novice=20
oriented question but . . .<BR>> >=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>It=3D20<BR>> > =
doesn't=20
matter which card is the "A" card<BR>> > in=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
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system as=20
far as Paris' ID orientation right?<BR>>=20
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Yes, it=20
does, and the orientation of the slots you are=20
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in=3D20<BR>> > =20
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the ribbon=20
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>cables=3D20<BR>> =
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>this. Have=20
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them=3D20<BR>> > =
around during=20
your reconfiguration?<BR>> ><BR>>=20
=3D20<BR>> > > =
Start with a=20
new SCSI cable and a single EDS card. Test=20
=3D<BR>> >each=20
MEC.=3D20<BR>> > =20
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>you know=20
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>card. Put=20
different modules in the MECs so you can see which one=20
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>is=3D20<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>>on =3D3D3D<BR>> >card A, B, C =
at all times.=20
this =3D<BR>> >will=20
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the info=20
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the<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D& amp;lt;BR>> >cards=20
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initializing and which card is card A, B, C as you=20
start=3D20<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>& ;gt; >adding more =
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that were=20
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=3D3D3D<BR>>=20
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determine=20
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=3D20<BR>> > =20
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=3D<BR> > =2 0
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=3D20<BR> > =2 0
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=3D3D3D<BR>> >new SCSI=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =
cable=20
=3D<BR>> >and=20
another=3D20<BR>> > =
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>size=3D3D3D2>Guys,</FONT>&l t;/DIV><BR>><DIV&g=
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> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>In any event I =
scaled down to=20
one EDS=3D20<BR>> > =20
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| Re: Paris hardware troubles won't stop. HELP!!! [message #88230 is a reply to message #88219] |
Mon, 16 July 2007 21:54 |
Aaron Allen
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Yup. Strip it ALL down to a PC only with video card, one EDS and one =
MEC. Get that flying, add a second EDS.. pull the 2nd EDS, try another, =
etc... do the same with MEC's and cables.=20
AA
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:469c263f@linux...
Intermitant success is the best I've got right now.
I plan to install Paris on another comp, try each EDS
individually and each SCSI cable individually with the 442. If
all goes well or not I will have an answer. Next, try the same in=20
the actual Paris rig without the Magma. If I can get regular
Paris boots there then it's the Magma power supply
or Magma cable. I'm thinking power supply. I always
had all 5 EDS cards showing even when the hardware
attached to them wasn't.
Does this sound like a logical approach to you?
I'm sick of chasing my tail.
Tom
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =
news:469bfc6c@linux...
I don't s'pose it could hurt if they're tarnished. My experiences =
though with the issue your seeing have been bad SCSI cables.=20
Start small, test every little component, unless you've got a bent =
up input pin somewhere (and I'd light them well and magnifying lense =
them all) I'm having a hard time buying that you have 4 dead cables out =
of the blue though, something caused that if it's the case.=20
AA
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:469b74bf@linux...
Aaron,
Hyperthreading is off. I'll double check though. I'd love to =
save the money
on those scsi cables.
What do you think about Deoxit in the female scsi jacks?
Tom
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =
news:469aead6@linux...
This might be flogging the rented and dead mule, but you did =
verify that dual core was off in this equation, and hadn't been flipped =
back on by a gremlin?
AA
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:469ad5e8@linux...
Ya Jeff,
At least half the times no C-16 was attached.
Do you think that a bad C-16 cable could cause these issues?
I'll remove them from the setup until all is well.
I know at least a few times it worked that the C-16 did also.
Tom=20
"Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message =
news:4699b378@linux...
Tom,
Stupid question, but did you ever start up without any =
c16's? If so did=20
you see the same issue?
Jeff
Bruhl wrote:
> Rod,
> I am working from a clone that was totally good with two
> fully loaded Mecs. I have to assume the drivers are good.
> I'm looking for a good vendor for SCSI cables now.
> They're called SCSI 2 right?
> http://www.m2cables.com/SCSI2toSCSI2CablesHDB50MtoML6.html
> =20
> I'm thinking of cleaning the female jacks on the mec and =
EDS to be
> sure all is well. Any sprays anyone suggests? I've got =
Deoxit.
> Good?
> Tom
>=20
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com
> <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com>> wrote in message
> news:4697f7e2$1@linux...
>=20
> Tom, sounds like it probably is a scsi issue. Your =
running xp right?
> The new
> Scherzo drivers are for xp verses 98 not for 3.0 =
verses 2.x
> Come to think of it. you probably whoudn't have had =
any old drivers
> on your
> xp sys drive anyway...never mind.
> Rod
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net =
<mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Hey Rod,
> >Hiding the default project didn't help anything. =
I've never
> >had 2.?? installed on this comp so I think I'm safe =
there regarding
> >drivers.
> >
> >I am only able to intermitantly get the 442 working =
as the master.
> >I think that's do to the scsi cable issue. I need =
four new ones.
> >I am unable to get more than one EDS card working =
WITH the 442.
> >Not sure why. The ribbons are all wired correctly.
> >
> >I'm off to a hellish gigging weekend. No more time =
for hell in Paris.
> >Thanks for all your input,
> >Tom
> > "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com
> <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com>> wrote in message =
=3D
> >news:4697ab8a@linux...
> >
> > Did you try hiding the default ppj to see if it =
would boot up
> with a =3D
> >MEC when
> > creating a new session?=3D20
> > Rod
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net =
<mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >Guys,
> > >I'm all set with the cables and the which card is =
A bit.
> > >Rod you were right about what I was asking.
> > >
> > >In any event I scaled down to one EDS (Pretty =
sure that's card
> A =3D3D
> > >right?!!!)
> > >and plugged it into each of my two working Mecs. =
Paris will
> boot but
> > >even internal clock was never found nor were the =
in/outs on
> each Mec.
> > >The 442 on the other hand works like a champ one =
card only. I =3D
> >suspect
> > >either all my Mecs are screwy now or the SCSI =
cables are
> intermitant
> =3D
> >at
> > =3D3D
> > >best.
> > >It's working fine with the 442 so I'm sticking =
with that for today.
> > >I'll add my EDS cards one by one and see if that =
is back to normal.
> > >
> > >Thanks for the help and if I need scsi cables =
what and where to
> buy =3D
> >them
> > =3D3D
> > >would be good info too.
> > >Mr Testy
> > > "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com
> <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com>> wrote in message =
=3D3D
> > >news:469780ce$1@linux...
> > >
> > > I think Tom was asking if there was a "3.0" =
version of the
> EDS card
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >that needed
> > > to be connected to the master. The answer to =
that would be
> no.=3D3D20
> > > Is this what you were asking Tom?
> > > DJ's advice is very important though. I would =
do it, if you
> haven't
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >already.
> > > I don't want to sound like a "RTFM" kind of =
guy, but the Paris =3D
> >manual
> > =3D3D
> > >describes
> > > this procedure pretty well.
> > > It's on page 4 and 5 of the 3.0 version.
> > > It kind of sounds to me like you may not be =
hooking up the
> correct
> =3D
> >eds
> > =3D3D
> > >card
> > > to the master mec.
> > > Rod
> > > "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>> wrote in message =3D3D3D
> > > >news:46972376@linux...
> > > > This is really a novice oriented question =
but . . .
> > > > It doesn't matter which card is the "A" card
> > > > in your system as far as Paris' ID =
orientation right?
> > > >
> > > > Yes, it does, and the orientation of the =
slots you are
> using in
> =3D
> >=3D3D3D
> > > >combination with the orientation of the ribbon =
cables will =3D
> >determine
> > =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >this. Have you changed them around during your =
reconfiguration?
> > > >
> > > > Start with a new SCSI cable and a single EDS =
card. Test each =3D
> >MEC. =3D3D
> > >Once
> > > =3D3D3D
> > > >you know if there is a problem there, add a =
new SCSI cable
> and =3D3D
> > >another =3D3D3D
> > > >card. Put different modules in the MECs so you =
can see which
> one =3D
> >is =3D3D
> > >on =3D3D3D
> > > >card A, B, C at all times. this will give you =
the info as to
> how =3D
> >the
> > =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >cards are initializing and which card is card =
A, B, C as you
> start
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is =
one of 4 that
> were =3D3D
> > >working =3D3D3D
> > > >perfectly when I took my system off line. I =
can't imagine it
> being
> =3D
> >a
> > =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >problem. Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a =
serious issue
> though. =3D
> >Your
> > =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >system will not function with bad SCSI cables.
> > > >
> > > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 =
Transitional//EN">
> > > ><HTML><HEAD>
> > > ><META http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type =
content=3D3D3D3D"text/html; =3D
> >=3D3D3D
> > > >charset=3D3D3D3Diso-8859-1">
> > > ><META content=3D3D3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16414"
> name=3D3D3D3DGENERATOR>
> > > ><STYLE></STYLE>
> > > ></HEAD>
> > > ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff>
> > > ><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20
> > > >style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; =
PADDING-LEFT: 5px;
> MARGIN-LEFT: =3D
> >5px; =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
0px">
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D3D20
> > > >=20
> =
href=3D3D3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>>
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >wrote =3D3D3D
> > > >in message=3D3D3D20
> > > > <A =3D
> =
>href=3D3D3D3D"news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV
> =
<news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV>>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>This is really a
> novice
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >oriented =3D3D3D
> > > >question but . .=3D3D3D20
> > > > .</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>It doesn't matter
> which
> =3D
> >card =3D3D
> > >is the =3D3D3D
> > > >"A"=3D3D3D20
> > > > card</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>in your system as
> far =3D
> >as =3D3D
> > >Paris' ID =3D3D3D
> > > >orientation=3D3D3D20
> > > > right?</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > > <DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, and
> the =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >orientation of
> > > =3D3D3D
> > > >the slots=3D3D3D20
> > > > you are using in combination with the =
orientation of the =3D3D
> > >ribbon=3D3D3D20
> > > > cables will determine this. Have you changed =
them around
> during
> =3D
> >=3D3D3D
> > > >your=3D3D3D20
> > > > reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>Start with a new
> SCSI =3D
> >cable =3D3D
> > >and a =3D3D3D
> > > >single EDS=3D3D3D20
> > > > card. Test each MEC. Once you know if there =
is a problem
> there,
> =3D
> >add
> > =3D3D
> > >a
> > > =3D3D3D
> > > >new SCSI=3D3D3D20
> > > > cable and another card. Put different =
modules in the MECs
> so you
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >can =3D3D3D
> > > >see which=3D3D3D20
> > > > one is on card A, B, C at all times. this =
will give you
> the info
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >as to=3D3D3D20
> > > > how the cards are initializing and which =
card is card A,
> B, C as
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >you =3D3D3D
> > > >start=3D3D3D20
> > > > adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is =
one of 4 that
> were =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >working
> > > =3D3D3D
> > > >
> > > > perfectly when I took my system off line. I =
can't imagine it =3D
> >being
> > =3D3D
> > >a =3D3D3D
> > > >problem.=3D3D3D20
> > > > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious =
issue though. Your =3D
> >system
> > =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >will not=3D3D3D20
> > > > function with bad SCSI =3D3D3D
> > > =
>cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and =
you?
> > >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =3D20
> > >
> > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 =
Transitional//EN">
> > ><HTML><HEAD>
> > ><META http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type =
content=3D3D3D"text/html; =3D3D
> > >charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1">
> > ><META content=3D3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" =
name=3D3D3DGENERATOR>
> > ><STYLE></STYLE>
> > ></HEAD>
> > ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>Guys,</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'm all =
set with the
> cables and
> =3D
> >the =3D3D
> > >which card is A=3D3D20
> > >bit.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Rod you =
were right about
> what I
> =3D
> >was=3D3D20
> > >asking.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>In any =
event I scaled down
> to =3D
> >one EDS =3D3D
> > >(Pretty sure=3D3D20
> > >that's card A right?!!!)</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>and =
plugged it into each
> of my =3D
> >two =3D3D
> > >working=3D3D20
> > >Mecs. Paris will boot but</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>even =
internal clock was
> never =3D
> >found nor
> > =3D3D
> > >were the=3D3D20
> > >in/outs on each Mec.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>The 442 =
on the other hand
> works
> =3D
> >like a
> > =3D3D
> > >champ one=3D3D20
> > >card only. I suspect</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>either =
all my Mecs are
> screwy =3D
> >now or =3D3D
> > >the SCSI=3D3D20
> > >cables are intermitant at best.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>It's =
working fine with the
> 442 =3D
> >so I'm =3D3D
> > >sticking with=3D3D20
> > >that for today.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'll add =
my EDS cards one
> by one
> =3D
> >and =3D3D
> > >see if that is=3D3D20
> > >back to normal.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Thanks =
for the help and if I =3D
> >need scsi
> > =3D3D
> > >cables what=3D3D20
> > >and where to buy them would be good info =
too.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Mr =
Testy</FONT></DIV>
> > ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20
> > >style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: =
5px; MARGIN-LEFT:
> 5px; =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
0px">
> > > <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com=
</A
> =
<mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>=3D
> >>&g=3D3D
> > >t;=3D3D20
> > > wrote in message <A=3D3D20
> > > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D3D"news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR=
>I
> =
<news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>I>
> > =3D3D
> > >think Tom=3D3D20
> > > was asking if there was a "3.0" version of the =
EDS card that =3D3D
> > >needed<BR>to be=3D3D20
> > > connected to the master. The answer to that =
would be no. <BR>Is =3D
> >this =3D3D
> > >what you=3D3D20
> > > were asking Tom?<BR>DJ's advice is very =
important though. I
> would =3D
> >do =3D3D
> > >it, if=3D3D20
> > > you haven't already.<BR>I don't want to sound =
like a "RTFM"
> kind of
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >guy, but=3D3D20
> > > the Paris manual describes<BR>this procedure =
pretty
> well.<BR>It's =3D
> >on =3D3D
> > >page 4=3D3D20
> > > and 5 of the 3.0 version.<BR>It kind of sounds =
to me like you
> may =3D
> >not
> > =3D3D
> > >be=3D3D20
> > > hooking up the correct eds card<BR>to the =
master =3D
> >mec.<BR>Rod<BR>"DJ"=3D3D20
> > > <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net>=3D3D20
> > > wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> "Tom Bruhl" =
<<A=3D3D20
> > > =
href=3D3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>> =
=3D
> >wrote =3D3D
> > >in message=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D<BR>>news:46972376@linux...<BR>> This is =
really a =3D3D
> > >novice oriented=3D3D20
> > > question but . . .<BR>> It doesn't matter which =
card is the =3D3D
> > >"A"=3D3D20
> > > card<BR>> in your system as far as Paris' ID =
orientation=3D3D20
> > > right?<BR>><BR>> Yes, it does, and the =
orientation of the =3D3D
> > >slots=3D3D20
> > > you are using in =3D3D3D<BR>>combination with =
the orientation
> of the
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >ribbon=3D3D20
> > > cables will determine =3D3D3D<BR>>this. Have =
you changed them
> around
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >during your=3D3D20
> > > reconfiguration?<BR>><BR>> Start with a new =
SCSI cable and =3D3D
> > >a=3D3D20
> > > single EDS card. Test each MEC. =
Once<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>you know if
> there
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >is a=3D3D20
> > > problem there, add a new SCSI cable and another
> =3D3D3D<BR>>card. Put
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >different=3D3D20
> > > modules in the MECs so you can see which one is =
on
> =3D3D3D<BR>>card =3D
> >A, =3D3D
> > >B, C at=3D3D20
> > > all times. this will give you the info as to =
how the =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>cards =3D3D
> > >are=3D3D20
> > > initializing and which card is card A, B, C as =
you start =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D<BR>>adding more=3D3D20
> > > hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that =
were working =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D<BR>>perfectly=3D3D20
> > > when I took my system off line. I can't imagine =
it being a =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D20
> > > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue =
though. Your =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D<BR>>system=3D3D20
> > > will not function with bad SCSI =
cables.<BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE =3D3D
> > >HTML=3D3D20
> > > PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D3D20
> > > =
Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=3D3D20
> > > http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type =
content=3D3D3D3D"text/html;=3D3D20
> > > =
=3D3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =3D3D
> > >content=3D3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D3D20
> > > 6.00.6000.16414"=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > =
>name=3D3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=3D3D
> > >D><BR>><BODY=3D3D20
> > > bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20
> > > =
dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; =3D
> >PADDING-LEFT: =3D3D
> > >5px;=3D3D20
> > > MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: =
#000000 2px solid; =3D3D
> > >MARGIN-RIGHT:=3D3D20
> > > 0px"><BR>> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> <DIV>"Tom =
=3D3D
> > >Bruhl"=3D3D20
> > > <<A=3D3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:=
arp=3D
> >egi=3D3D
> > =
>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D3D20
> > > wrote =3D3D3D<BR>>in message=3D3D3D20<BR>> <A =
href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:=
469=3D
> >723=3D3D
> > =
>76@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=3D3D
> > >p;=3D3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>This is really a =3D3D
> > >novice oriented=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D<BR>>question but . .=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D3D20
> > > .</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D3D
> > >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D3D2>It doesn't matter which card is =
the =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D<BR>>"A"=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> > > card</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D3D
> > >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D3D2>in your system as far as Paris' =
ID=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D<BR>>orientation=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> > > right?</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D3D
> > >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> > ><DIV><BR>> =3D3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, and
> the =3D3D
> > >orientation=3D3D20
> > > of<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>the slots=3D3D3D20<BR>> you =
are using in =3D3D
> > >combination with=3D3D20
> > > the orientation of the ribbon=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
cables will
> determine =3D3D
> > >this.=3D3D20
> > > Have you changed them around during
> =3D3D3D<BR>>your=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
> > >
> > > reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> > ><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> > > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>> =3D3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>Start with a new
> SCSI =3D3D
> > >cable and a=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D<BR>>single EDS=3D3D3D20<BR>> card. Test =
each MEC. Once
> you =3D3D
> > >know if=3D3D20
> > > there is a problem there, add =
a<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>new =3D3D
> > >SCSI=3D3D3D20<BR>> cable=3D3D20
> > > and another card. Put different modules in the =
MECs so you
> can =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D<BR>>see=3D3D20
> > > which=3D3D3D20<BR>> one is on card A, B, C at =
all times. this =3D3D
> > >will give you=3D3D20
> > > the info =3D3D3D<BR>>as to=3D3D3D20<BR>> how =
the cards are =3D3D
> > >initializing and=3D3D20
> > > which card is card A, B, C as you =
=3D3D3D<BR>>start=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
> > >adding more=3D3D20
> > > hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that =
were=3D3D20
> > > working<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>><BR>> perfectly when I =
took my system =3D3D
> > >off line. I=3D3D20
> > > can't imagine it being a =
=3D3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D3D20<BR>> Bent =3D3D
> > >pins on SCSI=3D3D20
> > > cables can be a serious issue though. Your =
system =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>will=3D3D20
> > > not=3D3D3D20<BR>> function with bad SCSI=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > =
>=3D3D3D<BR>>cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>=3D3D
> > >;</BODY></HTML><BR>><BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
> > ><DIV><FONT size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft =
Lockspam to fight =3D
> >spam, =3D3D
> > >and=3D3D20
> > >you?<BR><A=3D3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com=
/re
> =
<http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re>=3D
> >fer=3D3D
> > >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 =
Transitional//EN">
> ><HTML><HEAD>
> ><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type =
content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
> >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
> ><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" =
name=3D3DGENERATOR>
> ><STYLE></STYLE>
> ></HEAD>
> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hey =
Rod,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hiding the =
default project didn't
> help=3D20
> >anything. I've never</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>had 2.?? =
installed on this comp
> so I =3D
> >think I'm safe=3D20
> >there regarding</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2>drivers.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am only able =
to intermitantly
> get the
> =3D
> >442 working=3D20
> >as the master.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I think that's =
do to the scsi cable =3D
> >issue. I=3D20
> >need four new ones.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am unable to =
get more than one
> EDS =3D
> >card working=3D20
> >WITH the 442.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Not sure why. =
The ribbons are all =3D
> >wired=3D20
> >correctly.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm off to a =
hellish gigging =3D
> >weekend. No more=3D20
> >time for hell in Paris.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks for all =
your
> input,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; =
MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A=
>&g
> =
<mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g>=3D
> >t;=3D20
> > wrote in message <A=3D20
> >=20
> =
href=3D3D"news:4697ab8a@linux">news:4697ab8a@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Did
> =
<news:4697ab8a@linux">news:4697ab8a@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Did> =3D
> >you try=3D20
> > hiding the default ppj to see if it would boot up =
with a MEC =3D
> >when<BR>creating=3D20
> > a new session? <BR>Rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> > =
href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20
> =
<mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20>
> > wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Guys,<BR>>I'm all set with =
the cables =3D
> >and the=3D20
> > which card is A bit.<BR>>Rod you were right about =
what I was=3D20
> > asking.<BR>><BR>>In any event I scaled down to one =
EDS (Pretty =3D
> >sure=3D20
> > that's card A =3D3D<BR>>right?!!!)<BR>>and plugged =
it into each of =3D
> >my two=3D20
> > working Mecs. Paris will boot but<BR>>even =
internal clock was =3D
> >never=3D20
> > found nor were the in/outs on each Mec.<BR>>The =
442 on the other =3D
> >hand works=3D20
> > like a champ one card only. I suspect<BR>>either =
all my Mecs =3D
> >are=3D20
> > screwy now or the SCSI cables are intermitant =3D
> >at<BR>=3D3D<BR>>best.<BR>>It's=3D20
> > working fine with the 442 so I'm sticking with =
that for =3D
> >today.<BR>>I'll add=3D20
> > my EDS cards one by one and see if that is back =
to=3D20
> > normal.<BR>><BR>>Thanks for the help and if I need =
scsi cables =3D
> >what and=3D20
> > where to buy them<BR>=3D3D<BR>>would be good info =
too.<BR>>Mr=3D20
> > Testy<BR>> "Rod Lincoln" <<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A=
>&g
> =
<mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g>=3D
> >t;=3D20
> > wrote in message =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>news:469780ce$1@linux...<BR>><BR>> I=3D20
> > think Tom was asking if there was a "3.0" version =
of the EDS card=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>that needed<BR>> to be connected to the =
master. =3D
> >The answer=3D20
> > to that would be no.=3D3D20<BR>> Is this what you =
were asking=3D20
> > Tom?<BR>> DJ's advice is very important though. I =
would do =3D
> >it, if you=3D20
> > haven't =3D3D<BR>>already.<BR>> I don't want to =
sound like a =3D
> >"RTFM"=3D20
> > kind of guy, but the Paris =3D
> >manual<BR>=3D3D<BR>>describes<BR>> this=3D20
> > procedure pretty well.<BR>> It's on page 4 and 5 =
of the 3.0=3D20
> > version.<BR>> It kind of sounds to me like you may =
not be =3D
> >hooking up=3D20
> > the correct eds<BR>=3D3D<BR>>card<BR>> to the =
master=3D20
> > mec.<BR>> Rod<BR>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ =
=3D
> >dot _=3D20
> > net> wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> =3D20
> > ><BR>> > "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> > =
href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>> =
wrote =3D
> >in message=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>> >news:46972376@linux...<BR>> =3D
> >> This is=3D20
> > really a novice oriented question but . . .<BR>> > =
=3D
> >It=3D20
> > doesn't matter which card is the "A" card<BR>> > =
in =3D
> >your=3D20
> > system as far as Paris' ID orientation right?<BR>> =
=3D
> >><BR>> =3D20
> > > Yes, it does, and the orientation of the slots =
you are =3D
> >using in=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>> >combination with the orientation of =
the ribbon =3D
> >cables=3D20
> > will determine<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >this. =
Have you =3D
> >changed them=3D20
> > around during your reconfiguration?<BR>> ><BR>> =
=3D20
> > > Start with a new SCSI cable and a single EDS =
card. Test =3D
> >each MEC.=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>Once<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>> >you know if =3D
> >there is a=3D20
> > problem there, add a new SCSI cable and =
=3D3D<BR>>another =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >card. Put different modules in the MECs so you =
can see which one =3D
> >is=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>on =3D3D3D<BR>> >card A, B, C at all =
times. this =3D
> >will give=3D20
> > you the info as to how =
the<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >cards =3D
> >are=3D20
> > initializing and which card is card A, B, C as you =
start=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >adding more hardware. the =
MEC i =3D
> >sent you is one=3D20
> > of 4 that were =3D3D<BR>>working =3D3D3D<BR>> =
>perfectly =3D
> >when I took my=3D20
> > system off line. I can't imagine it being =3D
> >a<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >problem. Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a =
serious issue though.=3D20
> > Your<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >system will not =
function =3D
> >with bad SCSI=3D20
> > cables.<BR>> ><BR>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC=3D20
> > "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"><BR>> =
=3D20
> > ><HTML><HEAD><BR>> ><META=3D20
> > http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type =
content=3D3D3D3D"text/html; =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >charset=3D3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>> ><META =3D
> >content=3D3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20
> > 6.00.6000.16414" name=3D3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>> =
=3D20
> > ><STYLE></STYLE><BR>> =3D
> >></HEAD><BR>> =3D20
> > ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>> =3D
> >><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> > dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
>style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =3D
> >0px;=3D20
> > PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: =3D
> >0px"><BR>> =3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
> >size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20
> > </DIV><BR>> > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl"=3D20
> > <<A=3D3D3D20<BR>> > href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arp=
egi=3D
> >o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>wrote =3D3D3D<BR>> >in =3D
> >message=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D20
> > <A href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:469=
723=3D
> =
>76@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=3D
> >p;=3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>This =3D
> >is really a=3D20
> > novice =3D3D<BR>>oriented =3D3D3D<BR>> >question =
but .=3D20
> > .=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D
> >.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>It =
=3D
> >doesn't matter=3D20
> > which card =3D3D<BR>>is the =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >>"A"=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > card</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>in =
your system as =3D
> >far as=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>Paris' ID =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >>orientation=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > right?</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20
> > </DIV><BR>> > <DIV><BR>> =3D
> >> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Yes, =
it does, and =3D
> >the=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>orientation of<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>> =
>the=3D20
> > slots=3D3D3D20<BR>> > you are using in combination =
=3D
> >with the=3D20
> > orientation of the =3D3D<BR>>ribbon=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =3D
> >cables will=3D20
> > determine this. Have you changed them around =
during =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >your=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D20
> > reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20
> > </DIV><BR>> > <DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2>Start with a new SCSI cable =
=3D3D<BR>>and a =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >single EDS=3D3D3D20<BR>> > card. Test each MEC. =
=3D
> >Once you=3D20
> > know if there is a problem there, =
add<BR>=3D3D<BR>>a<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>> >new SCSI=3D3D3D20<BR>> > cable =3D
> >and another=3D20
> > card. Put different modules in the MECs so you =
=3D3D<BR>>can =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >see which=3D3D3D20<BR>> > one is on card A, B, C =
=3D
> >at all=3D20
> > times. this will give you the info =
=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >>as=3D20
> > to=3D3D3D20<BR>> > how the cards are initializing =
and =3D
> >which card=3D20
> > is card A, B, C as =3D3D<BR>>you =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >>start=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is one =
of 4 that =3D
> >were=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>working<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >><BR>> > =3D20
> > perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't =
imagine it=3D20
> > being<BR>=3D3D<BR>>a =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >>problem.=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious issue =
though. =3D
> >Your=3D20
> > system<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >will =3D
> >not=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > function with bad SCSI =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> >>cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></B=3D
> >ODY></HTML><BR>> =3D20
> > ><BR>> ><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>I choose =3D
> >Polesoft=3D20
> > Lockspam to fight spam, and=3D20
> > you?<BR>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =3D20
> > <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML =
4.0=3D20
> > Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=3D20
> > http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type =
content=3D3D3D"text/html;=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =3D
> >content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20
> > 6.00.2800.1400"=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=3D
> >D><BR>><BODY=3D20
> > bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > =3D
> >size=3D3D3D2>Guys,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'm all set with the =
cables and the =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>which=3D20
> > card is =3D
> >A=3D3D20<BR>>bit.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Rod you were right =
about what I=3D20
> > =3D
> >was=3D3D20<BR>>asking.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FO=3D
> >NT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D
> ></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>In any event I =
scaled down to one EDS=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>(Pretty sure=3D3D20<BR>>that's card =
A=3D20
> > right?!!!)</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>and plugged it into each of my =
two=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>working=3D3D20<BR>>Mecs. Paris will =
boot=3D20
> > but</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
=3D
> >
> > size=3D3D3D2>even internal clock was never found =
=3D
> >nor<BR>=3D3D<BR>>were=3D20
> > the=3D3D20<BR>>in/outs on each=3D20
> > Mec.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>The 442 on the other hand works like =
=3D
> >a<BR>=3D3D<BR>>champ=3D20
> > one=3D3D20<BR>>card only. I=3D20
> > suspect</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>either all my Mecs are screwy now or =
=3D3D<BR>>the=3D20
> > SCSI=3D3D20<BR>>cables are intermitant at=3D20
> > best.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>It's working fine with the 442 so I'm =
=3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>sticking=3D20
> > with=3D3D20<BR>>that for=3D20
> > today.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>I'll add my EDS cards one by one and =
=3D3D<BR>>see if =3D
> >that=3D20
> > is=3D3D20<BR>>back to=3D20
> > normal.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>Thanks for the help and if I need =3D
> >scsi<BR>=3D3D<BR>>cables=3D20
> > what=3D3D20<BR>>and where to buy them would be =
good info=3D20
> > too.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>Mr=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>Testy</FONT></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D=3D
> >3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=3D20
> > 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
=3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: =3D
> >#000000 2px=3D20
> > solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Rod =
Lincoln"=3D20
> > <<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A=
>&a=3D
> =
>mp;g'>mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</=3D
> >A>&g</A>=3D3D<BR>>t;=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > wrote in message <A=3D3D20<BR>> =
href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D'news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>I=
'>n=3D
> =
>ews:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV>&l=3D
> >t;BR>I</A><BR>=3D3D<BR>>think=3D20
> > Tom=3D3D20<BR>> was asking if there was a "3.0" =
version of the =3D
> >EDS card=3D20
> > that =3D3D<BR>>needed<BR>to be=3D3D20<BR>> =
connected to =3D
> >the master.=3D20
> > The answer to that would be no. <BR>Is this =
=3D3D<BR>>what=3D20
> > you=3D3D20<BR>> were asking Tom?<BR>DJ's advice is =
very =3D
> >important=3D20
> > though. I would do =3D3D<BR>>it, if=3D3D20<BR>> =
you haven't=3D20
> > already.<BR>I don't want to sound like a "RTFM" =
kind of =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>guy,=3D20
> > but=3D3D20<BR>> the Paris manual describes<BR>this =
=3D
> >procedure pretty=3D20
> > well.<BR>It's on =3D3D<BR>>page 4=3D3D20<BR>> and =
5 of =3D
> >the 3.0=3D20
> > version.<BR>It kind of sounds to me like you =
may=3D20
> > not<BR>=3D3D<BR>>be=3D3D20<BR>> hooking up the =
correct eds=3D20
> > card<BR>to the master =3D
> >mec.<BR>Rod<BR>"DJ"=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net>=3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D20
> > wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> "Tom =3D
> >Bruhl"=3D20
> > <<A=3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arp=
egi=3D
> >o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D20
> > wrote =3D3D<BR>>in message=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>news:46972376@linux...<BR>> This is =
really =3D
> >a=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>novice oriented=3D3D20<BR>> question but =
.. . =3D
> >.<BR>> It=3D20
> > doesn't matter which card is the =
=3D3D<BR>>"A"=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > card<BR>> in your system as far as Paris' ID=3D20
> > orientation=3D3D20<BR>> right?<BR>><BR>> Yes, =3D
> >it does,=3D20
> > and the orientation of the =
=3D3D<BR>>slots=3D3D20<BR>> you are =3D
> >using in=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>combination with the orientation of =
the=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>ribbon=3D3D20<BR>> cables will determine =
=3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>this.=3D20
> > Have you changed them around =3D3D<BR>>during =
your=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >
> > reconfiguration?<BR>><BR>> Start with a new SCSI =
=3D
> >cable and=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>a=3D3D20<BR>> single EDS card. Test each =
MEC.=3D20
> > Once<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>you know if there =
=3D3D<BR>>is=3D20
> > a=3D3D20<BR>> problem there, add a new SCSI cable =
and another=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>card. Put =
=3D3D<BR>>different=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >modules in the=3D20
> > MECs so you can see which one is on =
=3D3D3D<BR>>card A, =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>B, C=3D20
> > at=3D3D20<BR>> all times. this will give you the =
info as to how =3D
> >the=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>cards =3D3D<BR>>are=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >initializing and which=3D20
> > card is card A, B, C as you start =
=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>adding =3D
> >
> > more=3D3D20<BR>> hardware. the MEC i sent you is =
one of 4 that =3D
> >were=3D20
> > working =
=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>perfectly=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >when I took my=3D20
> > system off line. I can't imagine it being a=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D20<BR>> Bent =
pins on =3D
> >SCSI cables=3D20
> > can be a serious issue though. Your=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>system=3D3D20<BR>> will not =
=3D
> >function with bad=3D20
> > SCSI cables.<BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>HTML=3D3D20<BR>> PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD =
HTML =3D
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> > =3D3D<BR>>content=3D3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D20
> > 6.00.6000.16414"=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> =
>=3D3D<BR>>name=3D3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE&=3D
> >gt;<BR>></HEA=3D3D<BR>>D><BR>><BODY=3D3D20<BR>&=3D
> >gt; =3D20
> > =3D
> >bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D
> >
> > =
dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; =3D
> >PADDING-LEFT:=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>5px;=3D3D20<BR>> MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT:=3D20
> > #000000 2px solid; =
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> > 0px"><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D
> ><DIV>"Tom=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>Bruhl"=3D3D20<BR>> =
<<A=3D3D3D20<BR>>=3D20
> > href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> =
>=3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net&l=3D=
> =
>t;/A'>mailto:arpegi=3D3D<BR>>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net<=3D
> >;/A</A>>>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > wrote =3D3D3D<BR>>in message=3D3D3D20<BR>> <A=3D20
> > href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> =
>=3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>=3D
> =
>;...</DIV'>news:469723=3D3D<BR>>76@linux">news:46972376@linux&l=3D
> >t;/A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=3D3D<BR>>p;=3D3D20=3D
> ><BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>This =
is really a=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>novice oriented=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>question but .=3D20
> > .=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > .</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =
size=3D3D3D3D2>It =3D
> >doesn't matter which=3D20
> > card is the =
=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>"A"=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > card</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =
size=3D3D3D3D2>in your =3D
> >system as far=3D20
> > as Paris' ID=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>orientation=3D3D3D20<BR>>=3D20
> > =3D3D20<BR>> right?</FONT></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> > <DIV><FONT =
=3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>>=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>><DIV><BR>> =3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> ><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, =
and the=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>orientation=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >of<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>the=3D20
> > slots=3D3D3D20<BR>> you are using in =
=3D3D<BR>>combination=3D20
> > with=3D3D20<BR>> the orientation of the =3D
> >ribbon=3D3D3D20<BR>> cables=3D20
> > will determine =3D3D<BR>>this.=3D3D20<BR>> Have =
you changed =3D
> >them around=3D20
> > during =3D3D3D<BR>>your=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>><BR>> =3D20
> > reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Start =
with a new =3D
> >SCSI=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>cable and a=3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D3D3D<BR>>single=3D20
> > EDS=3D3D3D20<BR>> card. Test each MEC. Once you =
=3D3D<BR>>know =3D
> >
> > if=3D3D20<BR>> there is a problem there, add=3D20
> > a<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>new =3D3D<BR>>SCSI=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D
> >
> > cable=3D3D20<BR>> and another card. Put different =
modules in =3D
> >the MECs so=3D20
> > you can =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>see=3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D20
> > which=3D3D3D20<BR>> one is on card A, B, C at all =
times. this=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>will give you=3D3D20<BR>> the info =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>as=3D20
> > to=3D3D3D20<BR>> how the cards are =
=3D3D<BR>>initializing=3D20
> > and=3D3D20<BR>> which card is card A, B, C as =
you=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>start=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D3D<BR>>adding=3D20
> > more=3D3D20<BR>> hardware. the MEC i sent you is =
one of 4 that=3D20
> > were=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >working<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>><BR>>=3D20
> > perfectly when I took my system =3D3D<BR>>off =
line. =3D
> >I=3D3D20<BR>> can't=3D20
> > imagine it being a =
=3D3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >Bent=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>pins on SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> cables can be a =
serious =3D
> >issue though.=3D20
> > Your system =3D3D3D<BR>>will=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >not=3D3D3D20<BR>>=3D20
> > function with bad SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV>=3D
> >;</BLOCKQUOTE>=3D3D<BR>>;</BODY></HTML><BR>>&=3D
> >lt;BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to =
fight =3D
> >spam,=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>=3D3D<BR>>and=3D3D20<BR>>you?<BR><A=3D3D20<BR>>href=3D3D3D "<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
fer=3D
> =
>'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=3D=
> >>=3D3D<BR>>.html</A>=3D20
> > =3D
> ></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML><BR>><BR>><BR></=3D
> >BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> >
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Yup. Strip it ALL down to a PC only =
with video=20
card, one EDS and one MEC. Get that flying, add a second EDS.. pull the =
2nd EDS,=20
try another, etc... do the same with MEC's and cables. =
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<DIV><BR>AA</DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
in message=20
<A href=3D"news:469c263f@linux">news:469c263f@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Intermitant success is the best I've =
got right=20
now.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I plan to install Paris on another =
comp, try each=20
EDS</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>individually and each SCSI cable =
individually with the 442. If</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>all goes well or not I will have an =
answer. =20
Next, try the same in </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the actual </FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>Paris=20
rig without the Magma. If I can get regular</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Paris boots there then it's the Magma =
power=20
supply</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>or Magma cable. I'm thinking =
power=20
supply. I always</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>had all 5 EDS cards showing even when =
the=20
hardware</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>attached to them wasn't.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Does this sound like a logical =
approach to=20
you?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm sick of chasing my =
tail.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"Aaron Allen" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:know-spam@not_here.dude">know-spam@not_here.dude</A>> =
wrote=20
in message <A =
href=3D"news:469bfc6c@linux">news:469bfc6c@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I don't s'pose it could hurt if =
they're=20
tarnished. My experiences though with the issue your seeing have =
been bad=20
SCSI cables. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Start small, test every little =
component,=20
unless you've got a bent up input pin somewhere (and I'd light them =
well and=20
magnifying lense them all) I'm having a hard time buying that you =
have 4=20
dead cables out of the blue though, something caused that if it's =
the case.=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>AA</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A =
href=3D"news:469b74bf@linux">news:469b74bf@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Aaron,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hyperthreading is off. I'll =
double=20
check though. I'd love to save the money</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>on those scsi =
cables.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What do you think about Deoxit in =
the female=20
scsi jacks?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
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<DIV>"Aaron Allen" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:know-spam@not_here.dude">know-spam@not_here.dude</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
href=3D"news:469aead6@linux">news:469aead6@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This might be flogging =
the rented and=20
dead mule, but you did verify that dual core was off in =
this=20
equation, and hadn't been flipped back on by a =
gremlin?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><BR>AA</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote in =
message <A =
href=3D"news:469ad5e8@linux">news:469ad5e8@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ya Jeff,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>At least half the times no =
C-16 was=20
attached.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Do you think that a bad C-16 =
cable could=20
cause these issues?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll remove them from the =
setup until all=20
is well.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I know at least =
a few times it=20
worked that the C-16 did also.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"Jeff Hoover" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>> wrote=20
in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:4699b378@linux">news:4699b378@linux</A>...</DIV>Tom,<BR><BR>=
Stupid=20
question, but did you ever start up without any c16's? =
If so=20
did <BR>you see the same issue?<BR><BR>Jeff<BR><BR><BR>Bruhl =
wrote:<BR>> Rod,<BR>> I am working from a clone that =
was=20
totally good with two<BR>> fully loaded Mecs. I =
have to=20
assume the drivers are good.<BR>> I'm looking for a good =
vendor=20
for SCSI cables now.<BR>> They're called SCSI 2 =
right?<BR>> <A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.m2cables.com/SCSI2toSCSI2CablesHDB50MtoML6.html">http:=
//www.m2cables.com/SCSI2toSCSI2CablesHDB50MtoML6.html</A><BR >> =20
<BR>> I'm thinking of cleaning the female jacks on the =
mec and=20
EDS to be<BR>> sure all is well. Any sprays anyone=20
suggests? I've got Deoxit.<BR>> Good?<BR>> =
Tom<BR>>=20
<BR>> "Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A><B=
R>> =20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.co=
m</A>>>=20
wrote in message<BR>> <A=20
=
href=3D"news:4697f7e2$1@linux">news:4697f7e2$1@linux</A>...<BR>>=20
<BR>> Tom, sounds like it =
probably is a=20
scsi issue. Your running xp =
right?<BR>> =20
The new<BR>> Scherzo drivers are =
for xp=20
verses 98 not for 3.0 verses =
2.x<BR>> =20
Come to think of it. you probably whoudn't have had any old=20
drivers<BR>> on=20
your<BR>> xp sys drive =
anyway...never=20
mind.<BR>> =20
Rod<BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A> =
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">mailto:arpegio@comcast.net</A>>>=
;=20
wrote:<BR> > =2 0
><BR> > =2 0
><BR>> >Hey=20
Rod,<BR>> >Hiding the =
default=20
project didn't help anything. I've=20
never<BR>> >had 2.?? =
installed=20
on this comp so I think I'm safe there=20
regarding<BR> > =2 0
>drivers.<BR> > =2 0
><BR>> >I am only =
able to=20
intermitantly get the 442 working as the=20
master.<BR>> >I think =
that's do=20
to the scsi cable issue. I need four new=20
ones.<BR>> >I am unable =
to get=20
more than one EDS card working WITH the=20
442.<BR>> >Not sure =
why. =20
The ribbons are all wired=20
correctly.<BR> > =2 0
><BR>> >I'm off to a =
hellish=20
gigging weekend. No more time for hell in=20
Paris.<BR>> >Thanks for =
all your=20
input,<BR> > =2 0
>Tom<BR>> > =
"Rod=20
Lincoln" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A><B=
R>> =20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.co=
m</A>>>=20
wrote in message =3D<BR> > =2 0
=
>news:4697ab8a@linux...<BR> > =2 0
><BR>> > Did =
you try=20
hiding the default ppj to see if it would boot=20
up<BR>> with a=20
=3D<BR>> >MEC=20
when<BR>> > =
creating a new=20
session?=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
Rod<BR>> > "Tom =
Bruhl"=20
<<A =
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>=20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">mailto:arpegio@comcast.net</A>>>=
;<BR>> =20
wrote:<BR>> > =20
><BR>> > =20
><BR>> > =20
>Guys,<BR>> > =
>I'm=20
all set with the cables and the which card is A=20
bit.<BR>> > =
>Rod you=20
were right about what I was=20
asking.<BR>> > =20
><BR>> > >In =
any=20
event I scaled down to one EDS (Pretty sure that's=20
card<BR>> A=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>right?!!!)<BR>> =
> =20
>and plugged it into each of my two working Mecs. =
Paris=20
will<BR>> boot=20
but<BR>> > =
>even=20
internal clock was never found nor were the in/outs=20
on<BR>> each=20
Mec.<BR>> > =
>The 442 on=20
the other hand works like a champ one card only. I=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>suspect<BR>> > =
>either all my Mecs are screwy now or the SCSI cables=20
are<BR>> =20
intermitant<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>at<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>best.<BR>> > =
>It's=20
working fine with the 442 so I'm sticking with that for=20
today.<BR>> > =
>I'll add=20
my EDS cards one by one and see if that is back to=20
normal.<BR>> > =20
><BR>> > =
>Thanks for=20
the help and if I need scsi cables what and where=20
to<BR>> buy=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>them<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>would be=20
good info too.<BR>> =
> =20
>Mr Testy<BR>> =
> =20
> "Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A><B=
R>> =20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.co=
m</A>>>=20
wrote in message =3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
=
>news:469780ce$1@linux...<BR> > =2 0
> ><BR>> =
> =20
> I think Tom was asking if there was a "3.0" =
version of=20
the<BR>> EDS=20
card<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =
>that=20
needed<BR>> > =
> =20
to be connected to the master. The answer to that would=20
be<BR>> =20
no.=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
Is this what you were asking=20
Tom?<BR>> > =
> =20
DJ's advice is very important though. I would do it, if=20
you<BR>> =20
haven't<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>already.<BR>> =
> =20
> I don't want to sound like a "RTFM" kind of guy, =
but the=20
Paris =3D<BR> > =2 0
>manual<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>describes<BR>> =
> =20
> this procedure pretty=20
well.<BR>> > =
> =20
It's on page 4 and 5 of the 3.0=20
version.<BR>> > =
> =20
It kind of sounds to me like you may not be hooking up=20
the<BR>> =20
correct<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>eds<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>card<BR>> > =
> =20
to the master mec.<BR>> =
> =20
> Rod<BR>> =
> =20
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net>=20
wrote:<BR>> > =
> =20
><BR>> > =
> =20
><BR>> > =
> =20
><BR>> > =
> =20
> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A><BR>> =
=20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">mailto:arpegio@comcast.net</A>>>=
;=20
wrote in message =
=3D3D3D<BR> > =2 0
> > =20
=
>news:46972376@linux...<BR> > =2 0
> > > This is really a novice =
oriented=20
question but . . .<BR>> =
> =20
> > It doesn't matter which card is the =
"A"=20
card<BR>> > =
> =20
> in your system as far as Paris' ID orientation=20
right?<BR>> > =
> =20
><BR>> > =
> =20
> Yes, it does, and the orientation of the slots =
you=20
are<BR>> using=20
in<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> >combination with the orientation of the =
ribbon cables=20
will =3D<BR> > =2 0
>determine<BR>> =
> =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> >this. Have you changed them around during =
your=20
reconfiguration?<BR>> =
> =20
> ><BR>> =
> =20
> > Start with a new SCSI cable and a =
single EDS=20
card. Test each =3D<BR>> =
>MEC.=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>Once<BR>> > =
> =20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>you know if there is a problem there, add a new SCSI=20
cable<BR>> and=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>another=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>card. Put different modules in the MECs so you can see=20
which<BR>> one=20
=3D<BR>> >is=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>on=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>card A, B, C at all times. this will give you the info =
as=20
to<BR>> how=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>the<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> >cards are initializing and which card is card =
A, B, C=20
as you<BR>> =20
start<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> >adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is =
one of 4=20
that<BR>> were=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>working=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't =
imagine=20
it<BR>> =20
being<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>a<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> >problem. Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a =
serious=20
issue<BR>> though.=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>Your<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> >system will not function with bad SCSI=20
cables.<BR>> > =
> =20
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> =20
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> =20
> > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl"=20
<<A=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> > <BR>> =
href=3D3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A><BR>> =
=20
<<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>><BR>> =
=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =
>wrote=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>in =
message=3D3D3D20<BR> > =2 0
> > > <A=20
=3D<BR>> =
>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:469723=
76@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV</A><BR>> &n=
bsp; =20
<<A=20
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href=3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:469723=
76@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV</A>>><BR>>=
=20
> > > <DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>This is really=20
a<BR>> =20
novice<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>oriented =3D3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
> >question but .=20
.=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
> =20
=
..</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> > > <DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>It doesn't=20
matter<BR>> =20
which<BR>> =20
=3D<BR>> >card=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>is the=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>"A"=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> > =20
=
card</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> > > <DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>in your system=20
as<BR>> far=20
=3D<BR>> >as=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>Paris' ID=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
=
>orientation=3D3D3D20<BR> > =2 0
> > > =20
=
right?</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> > > <DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> =
> =20
> > =20
<DIV><BR>> > =
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, =
and<BR>> =20
the =3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>orientation of<BR>> =
> =20
> =3D3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
> >the=20
slots=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> > you are using in combination with the=20
orientation of the =
=3D3D<BR> > =2 0
> =
>ribbon=3D3D3D20<BR> > =2 0
> > > cables will determine this. =
Have=20
you changed them around<BR>> =20
during<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =
>your=3D3D3D20<BR> > =2 0
> > > =20
=
reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR >> =
=20
> > > <DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> =
> =20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>Start with a =
new<BR>> =20
SCSI =3D<BR>> >cable=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>and a=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>single =
EDS=3D3D3D20<BR> > =2 0
> > > card. Test each MEC. Once =
you know=20
if there is a problem<BR>> =20
there,<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>add<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>a<BR>> > =
> =20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>new SCSI=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> > cable and another card. Put different =
modules=20
in the MECs<BR>> so=20
you<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =
>can=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>see which=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> > > one is on card A, B, C at =
all=20
times. this will give you<BR>> =
the=20
info<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> >as =
to=3D3D3D20<BR> > =2 0
> > > how the cards are =
initializing and=20
which card is card A,<BR>> B, C=20
as<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =
>you=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>start=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> > adding more hardware. the MEC i sent =
you is=20
one of 4 that<BR>> were=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>working<BR>> > =
> =3D3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
> ><BR>> =
> =20
> > perfectly when I took my system off =
line. I=20
can't imagine it =3D<BR> > =2 0
>being<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > >a =
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>problem.=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a =
serious=20
issue though. Your =3D<BR>> =
>system<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> >will =
not=3D3D3D20<BR> > =2 0
> > > function with bad SCSI=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
=
>cables.</FONT></DIV>& ;lt;/DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></B=
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> =20
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choose=20
Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and=20
you?<BR>> > =20
>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
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><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=20
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=
size=3D3D3D2>Guys,</FONT></DIV&a mp;gt; <BR>> &=
nbsp; =20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>I'm=20
all set with the<BR>> cables=20
and<BR>> =20
=3D<BR>> >the=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>which card=20
is A=3D3D20<BR>> > =
=
>bit.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>Rod=20
you were right about<BR>> what=20
I<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>was=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
=
>asking.</FONT></DIV><BR >>  =
;=20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> =
> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>In =
any event I=20
scaled down<BR>> to=20
=3D<BR>> >one EDS=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>(Pretty=20
sure=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>that's card A=20
=
right?!!!)</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
=20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>and=20
plugged it into each<BR>> of my=20
=3D<BR>> >two=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>working=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
>Mecs. Paris will boot=20
=
but</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>even=20
internal clock was<BR>> never=20
=3D<BR>> >found=20
nor<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>were=20
the=3D3D20<BR>> > =20
>in/outs on each=20
=
Mec.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>The=20
442 on the other hand<BR>> =20
works<BR>> =20
=3D<BR>> >like=20
a<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>champ=20
one=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>card=20
only. I=20
=
suspect</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>either all my Mecs =
are<BR>> =20
screwy =3D<BR>> >now or=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>the=20
SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>cables are intermitant at=20
=
best.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>It's=20
working fine with the<BR>> 442=20
=3D<BR>> >so I'm=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>sticking=20
with=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>that=20
for=20
=
today.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>I'll=20
add my EDS cards one<BR>> by=20
one<BR>> =20
=3D<BR>> >and=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>see if that=20
is=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>back to=20
=
normal.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> =
> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>Thanks for the=20
help and if I =3D<BR>> =
>need=20
scsi<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>cables=20
what=3D3D20<BR>> > =
>and=20
where to buy them would be good info=20
=
too.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>Mr=20
=
Testy</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> =20
=
><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20<BR> > =2 0
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> =20
<DIV>"Rod Lincoln"=20
<<A=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> =3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
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href=3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A'>m=
ailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A</A><B=
R>> =20
<<A=20
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t;=3D<BR> > =2 0
>>&g=3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
>t;=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> wrote in message=20
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> =20
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> =3D3D<BR>> =
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>think Tom=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
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> > connected to the master. The answer to =
that=20
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=3D<BR> > =2 0
>this =3D3D<BR>> =
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>what you=3D3D20<BR>> =
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you haven't already.<BR>I don't want to sound like a=20
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>=3D3D<BR>> > =
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> =20
the Paris manual describes<BR>this procedure=20
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=3D3D<BR>> > =
>page=20
4=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
and 5 of the 3.0 version.<BR>It kind of sounds to me =
like=20
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=3D<BR> > =2 0
>not<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>be=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> hooking up the correct eds card<BR>to the =
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=3D<BR> > =2 0
=
>mec.<BR>Rod<BR>"DJ"=3D3D20 <BR>>  =
; =20
> > <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _=20
net>=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> =20
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wrote:<BR>><BR>>&a mp;lt;BR>><BR>> "Tom=20
Bruhl" =
<<A=3D3D20<BR> > =2 0
> > href=3D3D3D"<A=20
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href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
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=3D<BR>> >wrote=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>in=20
message=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> =
=3D3D3D<BR>>news:46972376@linux...<BR>>=20
This is really a =3D3D<BR>> =
> >novice=20
oriented=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> question but . . .<BR>> It doesn't =
matter which=20
card is the =3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
>"A"=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> card<BR>> in your system as far as =
Paris' ID=20
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> right?<BR>><BR>> Yes, it does, =
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>=3D3D<BR>> > =
>during=20
your=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> reconfiguration?<BR>><BR> > =
Start with a=20
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>a=3D3D20<BR> > =2 0
> > single EDS card. Test each MEC.=20
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there<BR>> =20
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>=3D3D<BR>> > =
>is=20
a=3D3D20<BR>> > =
> =20
problem there, add a new SCSI cable and=20
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Put<BR>> =20
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>different=3D3D20<BR>> =
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> hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that =
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>combination=20
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> the orientation of the =
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=3D3D<BR>> > =20
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> =20
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>cable and=20
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> =20
=3D3D3D<BR>>single EDS=3D3D3D20<BR>> card. =
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=20
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the info =3D3D3D<BR>>as to=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
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> =
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perfectly when I took my system=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
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=3D3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D3D20<BR >> Bent=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>pins on=20
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><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hey=20
=
Rod,</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hiding =
the default=20
project didn't<BR>> =20
help=3D20<BR>> =
>anything. I've=20
=
never</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>had =
2.?? installed=20
on this comp<BR>> so I=20
=3D<BR>> >think I'm=20
safe=3D20<BR>> >there=20
=
regarding</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
=
size=3D3D2>drivers.</FONT></DIV& amp;gt; <BR>> =
=20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am =
only able to=20
intermitantly<BR>> get=20
the<BR>> =20
=3D<BR>> >442=20
working=3D20<BR>> >as =
the=20
=
master.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I think =
that's do=20
to the scsi cable =3D<BR>> =
>issue.=20
I=3D20<BR>> >need four =
new=20
=
ones.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am =
unable to get=20
more than one<BR>> EDS=20
=3D<BR>> >card=20
working=3D20<BR>> >WITH =
the=20
=
442.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Not =
sure why. The=20
ribbons are all =3D<BR> > =2 0
>wired=3D20<BR> > =2 0
=
>correctly.</FONT></DIV><BR >> &n=
bsp;=20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm off =
to a=20
hellish gigging =3D<BR>> =
>weekend.=20
No more=3D20<BR>> >time =
for hell=20
in=20
=
Paris.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks =
for all=20
your<BR>> =20
=
input,</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
=
size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV&g t; <BR>>  =
; =20
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<DIV>"Rod Lincoln"=20
<<A=3D20<BR>> =
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A>&g</A>>=3D<BR> > =2 0
>t;=3D20<BR>> > =
wrote in=20
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>=20
<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
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href=3D'news:4697ab8a@linux">news:4697ab8a@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Did'>new=
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=3D<BR>> >you=20
try=3D20<BR>> > =
hiding the=20
default ppj to see if it would boot up with a MEC=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
=
>when<BR>creating=3D20<BR> > =2 0
> a new session? <BR>Rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl" =
<<A=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
href=3D3D"<A=20
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href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto=
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R> > =2 0
> =20
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wrote:<BR>><BR>>&a mp;lt;BR>>Guys,<BR>>I'm=2 0
all set with the cables =
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>and the=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
which card is A bit.<BR>>Rod you were right about =
what I=20
was=3D20<BR>> > =20
asking.<BR>><BR>>I n any event I scaled =
down to one=20
EDS (Pretty =3D<BR> > =2 0
>sure=3D20<BR>> =
> that's=20
card A =3D3D<BR>>right?!!!)<BR>& amp;gt;and =
plugged it into=20
each of =3D<BR>> >my=20
two=3D20<BR>> > =
working=20
Mecs. Paris will boot but<BR>>even internal clock =
was=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>never=3D20<BR>> =
> found=20
nor were the in/outs on each Mec.<BR>>The 442 on =
the other=20
=3D<BR>> >hand=20
works=3D20<BR>> > =
like a=20
champ one card only. I suspect<BR>>either all my =
Mecs=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>are=3D20<BR>> =
> screwy=20
now or the SCSI cables are intermitant=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
=
>at<BR>=3D3D<BR>>b est.<BR>>It's=3D20 <BR>>&n=
bsp; =20
> working fine with the 442 so I'm sticking with =
that for=20
=3D<BR>> =
>today.<BR>>I'll=20
add=3D20<BR>> > my =
EDS cards=20
one by one and see if that is back=20
to=3D20<BR>> > =20
normal.<BR>><BR>>T hanks for the help and =
if I need=20
scsi cables =3D<BR>> =
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> Testy<BR>> "Rod Lincoln"=20
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wrote in=20
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t;=20
I=3D20<BR>> > =
think Tom was=20
asking if there was a "3.0" version of the EDS=20
card=3D20<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>>that needed<BR>> to be connected =
to the=20
master. =3D<BR>> >The=20
answer=3D20<BR>> > =
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asking=3D20<BR>> > =
Tom?<BR>> DJ's advice is very important though. I =
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haven't=20
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>"RTFM"=3D20<BR>> =
> kind=20
of guy, but the Paris =
=3D<BR> > =2 0
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>manual<BR>=3D3D<BR>& gt;describes<BR>>=20
this=3D20<BR>> > =
procedure=20
pretty well.<BR>> It's on page 4 and 5 of the=20
3.0=3D20<BR>> > =20
version.<BR>> It kind of sounds to me like you may =
not be=20
=3D<BR>> >hooking=20
up=3D20<BR>> > the =
correct=20
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master=3D20<BR>> > =
mec.<BR>> Rod<BR>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ =
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net>=20
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>news:46972376@linux...<BR>>=20
=3D<BR>> >> This=20
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really a=20
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doesn't=20
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>this.=20
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around=20
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=3D20<BR>> > > =
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right about=20
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; =20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>In any event I =
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> =20
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right?!!!)</FONT></DIV><B R>><DIV><FONT=20
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>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR> > =2 0
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but</FONT></DIV><BR&g t;><DIV><FONT=20
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=
Mec.</FONT></DIV><BR& gt;><DIV><FONT=20
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=
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR> > =2 0
> size=3D3D3D2>The 442 on the other hand works =
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> size=3D3D3D2>either all my Mecs are screwy now =
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best.</FONT></DIV><BR& ;gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
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Tom Bruhl
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Aaron,
I'm on it.
t
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =
news:469c4ccb@linux...
Yup. Strip it ALL down to a PC only with video card, one EDS and one =
MEC. Get that flying, add a second EDS.. pull the 2nd EDS, try another, =
etc... do the same with MEC's and cables.=20
AA
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:469c263f@linux...
Intermitant success is the best I've got right now.
I plan to install Paris on another comp, try each EDS
individually and each SCSI cable individually with the 442. If
all goes well or not I will have an answer. Next, try the same in=20
the actual Paris rig without the Magma. If I can get regular
Paris boots there then it's the Magma power supply
or Magma cable. I'm thinking power supply. I always
had all 5 EDS cards showing even when the hardware
attached to them wasn't.
Does this sound like a logical approach to you?
I'm sick of chasing my tail.
Tom
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =
news:469bfc6c@linux...
I don't s'pose it could hurt if they're tarnished. My experiences =
though with the issue your seeing have been bad SCSI cables.=20
Start small, test every little component, unless you've got a bent =
up input pin somewhere (and I'd light them well and magnifying lense =
them all) I'm having a hard time buying that you have 4 dead cables out =
of the blue though, something caused that if it's the case.=20
AA
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:469b74bf@linux...
Aaron,
Hyperthreading is off. I'll double check though. I'd love to =
save the money
on those scsi cables.
What do you think about Deoxit in the female scsi jacks?
Tom
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =
news:469aead6@linux...
This might be flogging the rented and dead mule, but you did =
verify that dual core was off in this equation, and hadn't been flipped =
back on by a gremlin?
AA
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:469ad5e8@linux...
Ya Jeff,
At least half the times no C-16 was attached.
Do you think that a bad C-16 cable could cause these issues?
I'll remove them from the setup until all is well.
I know at least a few times it worked that the C-16 did =
also.
Tom=20
"Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message =
news:4699b378@linux...
Tom,
Stupid question, but did you ever start up without any =
c16's? If so did=20
you see the same issue?
Jeff
Bruhl wrote:
> Rod,
> I am working from a clone that was totally good with two
> fully loaded Mecs. I have to assume the drivers are =
good.
> I'm looking for a good vendor for SCSI cables now.
> They're called SCSI 2 right?
> =
http://www.m2cables.com/SCSI2toSCSI2CablesHDB50MtoML6.html
> =20
> I'm thinking of cleaning the female jacks on the mec and =
EDS to be
> sure all is well. Any sprays anyone suggests? I've got =
Deoxit.
> Good?
> Tom
>=20
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com
> <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com>> wrote in message
> news:4697f7e2$1@linux...
>=20
> Tom, sounds like it probably is a scsi issue. Your =
running xp right?
> The new
> Scherzo drivers are for xp verses 98 not for 3.0 =
verses 2.x
> Come to think of it. you probably whoudn't have had =
any old drivers
> on your
> xp sys drive anyway...never mind.
> Rod
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net =
<mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Hey Rod,
> >Hiding the default project didn't help anything. =
I've never
> >had 2.?? installed on this comp so I think I'm =
safe there regarding
> >drivers.
> >
> >I am only able to intermitantly get the 442 =
working as the master.
> >I think that's do to the scsi cable issue. I need =
four new ones.
> >I am unable to get more than one EDS card working =
WITH the 442.
> >Not sure why. The ribbons are all wired =
correctly.
> >
> >I'm off to a hellish gigging weekend. No more =
time for hell in Paris.
> >Thanks for all your input,
> >Tom
> > "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com
> <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com>> wrote in message =
=3D
> >news:4697ab8a@linux...
> >
> > Did you try hiding the default ppj to see if it =
would boot up
> with a =3D
> >MEC when
> > creating a new session?=3D20
> > Rod
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net =
<mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >Guys,
> > >I'm all set with the cables and the which card =
is A bit.
> > >Rod you were right about what I was asking.
> > >
> > >In any event I scaled down to one EDS (Pretty =
sure that's card
> A =3D3D
> > >right?!!!)
> > >and plugged it into each of my two working =
Mecs. Paris will
> boot but
> > >even internal clock was never found nor were =
the in/outs on
> each Mec.
> > >The 442 on the other hand works like a champ =
one card only. I =3D
> >suspect
> > >either all my Mecs are screwy now or the SCSI =
cables are
> intermitant
> =3D
> >at
> > =3D3D
> > >best.
> > >It's working fine with the 442 so I'm sticking =
with that for today.
> > >I'll add my EDS cards one by one and see if =
that is back to normal.
> > >
> > >Thanks for the help and if I need scsi cables =
what and where to
> buy =3D
> >them
> > =3D3D
> > >would be good info too.
> > >Mr Testy
> > > "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com
> <mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com>> wrote in message =
=3D3D
> > >news:469780ce$1@linux...
> > >
> > > I think Tom was asking if there was a "3.0" =
version of the
> EDS card
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >that needed
> > > to be connected to the master. The answer to =
that would be
> no.=3D3D20
> > > Is this what you were asking Tom?
> > > DJ's advice is very important though. I would =
do it, if you
> haven't
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >already.
> > > I don't want to sound like a "RTFM" kind of =
guy, but the Paris =3D
> >manual
> > =3D3D
> > >describes
> > > this procedure pretty well.
> > > It's on page 4 and 5 of the 3.0 version.
> > > It kind of sounds to me like you may not be =
hooking up the
> correct
> =3D
> >eds
> > =3D3D
> > >card
> > > to the master mec.
> > > Rod
> > > "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> =
wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>> wrote in message =
=3D3D3D
> > > >news:46972376@linux...
> > > > This is really a novice oriented question =
but . . .
> > > > It doesn't matter which card is the "A" =
card
> > > > in your system as far as Paris' ID =
orientation right?
> > > >
> > > > Yes, it does, and the orientation of the =
slots you are
> using in
> =3D
> >=3D3D3D
> > > >combination with the orientation of the =
ribbon cables will =3D
> >determine
> > =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >this. Have you changed them around during =
your reconfiguration?
> > > >
> > > > Start with a new SCSI cable and a single =
EDS card. Test each =3D
> >MEC. =3D3D
> > >Once
> > > =3D3D3D
> > > >you know if there is a problem there, add a =
new SCSI cable
> and =3D3D
> > >another =3D3D3D
> > > >card. Put different modules in the MECs so =
you can see which
> one =3D
> >is =3D3D
> > >on =3D3D3D
> > > >card A, B, C at all times. this will give =
you the info as to
> how =3D
> >the
> > =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >cards are initializing and which card is =
card A, B, C as you
> start
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is =
one of 4 that
> were =3D3D
> > >working =3D3D3D
> > > >perfectly when I took my system off line. I =
can't imagine it
> being
> =3D
> >a
> > =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >problem. Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a =
serious issue
> though. =3D
> >Your
> > =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >system will not function with bad SCSI =
cables.
> > > >
> > > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 =
Transitional//EN">
> > > ><HTML><HEAD>
> > > ><META http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type =
content=3D3D3D3D"text/html; =3D
> >=3D3D3D
> > > >charset=3D3D3D3Diso-8859-1">
> > > ><META content=3D3D3D3D"MSHTML =
6.00.6000.16414"
> name=3D3D3D3DGENERATOR>
> > > ><STYLE></STYLE>
> > > ></HEAD>
> > > ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff>
> > > ><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20
> > > >style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; =
PADDING-LEFT: 5px;
> MARGIN-LEFT: =3D
> >5px; =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; =
MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D3D3D20
> > > >=20
> =
href=3D3D3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A
> =
<mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>>
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >wrote =3D3D3D
> > > >in message=3D3D3D20
> > > > <A =3D
> =
>href=3D3D3D3D"news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV
> =
<news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV>>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>This is really a
> novice
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >oriented =3D3D3D
> > > >question but . .=3D3D3D20
> > > > .</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>It doesn't matter
> which
> =3D
> >card =3D3D
> > >is the =3D3D3D
> > > >"A"=3D3D3D20
> > > > card</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>in your system as
> far =3D
> >as =3D3D
> > >Paris' ID =3D3D3D
> > > >orientation=3D3D3D20
> > > > right?</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > > <DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, and
> the =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >orientation of
> > > =3D3D3D
> > > >the slots=3D3D3D20
> > > > you are using in combination with the =
orientation of the =3D3D
> > >ribbon=3D3D3D20
> > > > cables will determine this. Have you =
changed them around
> during
> =3D
> >=3D3D3D
> > > >your=3D3D3D20
> > > > reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>Start with a new
> SCSI =3D
> >cable =3D3D
> > >and a =3D3D3D
> > > >single EDS=3D3D3D20
> > > > card. Test each MEC. Once you know if =
there is a problem
> there,
> =3D
> >add
> > =3D3D
> > >a
> > > =3D3D3D
> > > >new SCSI=3D3D3D20
> > > > cable and another card. Put different =
modules in the MECs
> so you
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >can =3D3D3D
> > > >see which=3D3D3D20
> > > > one is on card A, B, C at all times. this =
will give you
> the info
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >as to=3D3D3D20
> > > > how the cards are initializing and which =
card is card A,
> B, C as
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >you =3D3D3D
> > > >start=3D3D3D20
> > > > adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you =
is one of 4 that
> were =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >working
> > > =3D3D3D
> > > >
> > > > perfectly when I took my system off line. =
I can't imagine it =3D
> >being
> > =3D3D
> > >a =3D3D3D
> > > >problem.=3D3D3D20
> > > > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious =
issue though. Your =3D
> >system
> > =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D
> > > >will not=3D3D3D20
> > > > function with bad SCSI =3D3D3D
> > > =
>cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and =
you?
> > >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =3D20
> > >
> > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 =
Transitional//EN">
> > ><HTML><HEAD>
> > ><META http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type =
content=3D3D3D"text/html; =3D3D
> > >charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1">
> > ><META content=3D3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" =
name=3D3D3DGENERATOR>
> > ><STYLE></STYLE>
> > ></HEAD>
> > ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>Guys,</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'm =
all set with the
> cables and
> =3D
> >the =3D3D
> > >which card is A=3D3D20
> > >bit.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Rod =
you were right about
> what I
> =3D
> >was=3D3D20
> > >asking.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>In any =
event I scaled down
> to =3D
> >one EDS =3D3D
> > >(Pretty sure=3D3D20
> > >that's card A right?!!!)</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>and =
plugged it into each
> of my =3D
> >two =3D3D
> > >working=3D3D20
> > >Mecs. Paris will boot but</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>even =
internal clock was
> never =3D
> >found nor
> > =3D3D
> > >were the=3D3D20
> > >in/outs on each Mec.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>The =
442 on the other hand
> works
> =3D
> >like a
> > =3D3D
> > >champ one=3D3D20
> > >card only. I suspect</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>either =
all my Mecs are
> screwy =3D
> >now or =3D3D
> > >the SCSI=3D3D20
> > >cables are intermitant at best.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>It's =
working fine with the
> 442 =3D
> >so I'm =3D3D
> > >sticking with=3D3D20
> > >that for today.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'll =
add my EDS cards one
> by one
> =3D
> >and =3D3D
> > >see if that is=3D3D20
> > >back to normal.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Thanks =
for the help and if I =3D
> >need scsi
> > =3D3D
> > >cables what=3D3D20
> > >and where to buy them would be good info =
too.</FONT></DIV>
> > ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Mr =
Testy</FONT></DIV>
> > ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20
> > >style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: =
5px; MARGIN-LEFT:
> 5px; =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
0px">
> > > <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com=
</A
> =
<mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>=3D
> >>&g=3D3D
> > >t;=3D3D20
> > > wrote in message <A=3D3D20
> > > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D3D"news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR=
>I
> =
<news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>I>
> > =3D3D
> > >think Tom=3D3D20
> > > was asking if there was a "3.0" version of =
the EDS card that =3D3D
> > >needed<BR>to be=3D3D20
> > > connected to the master. The answer to that =
would be no. <BR>Is =3D
> >this =3D3D
> > >what you=3D3D20
> > > were asking Tom?<BR>DJ's advice is very =
important though. I
> would =3D
> >do =3D3D
> > >it, if=3D3D20
> > > you haven't already.<BR>I don't want to sound =
like a "RTFM"
> kind of
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >guy, but=3D3D20
> > > the Paris manual describes<BR>this procedure =
pretty
> well.<BR>It's =3D
> >on =3D3D
> > >page 4=3D3D20
> > > and 5 of the 3.0 version.<BR>It kind of =
sounds to me like you
> may =3D
> >not
> > =3D3D
> > >be=3D3D20
> > > hooking up the correct eds card<BR>to the =
master =3D
> >mec.<BR>Rod<BR>"DJ"=3D3D20
> > > <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net>=3D3D20
> > > wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> "Tom Bruhl" =
<<A=3D3D20
> > > =
href=3D3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A
> =
<mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>> =3D
> >wrote =3D3D
> > >in message=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D<BR>>news:46972376@linux...<BR>> This =
is really a =3D3D
> > >novice oriented=3D3D20
> > > question but . . .<BR>> It doesn't matter =
which card is the =3D3D
> > >"A"=3D3D20
> > > card<BR>> in your system as far as Paris' ID =
orientation=3D3D20
> > > right?<BR>><BR>> Yes, it does, and the =
orientation of the =3D3D
> > >slots=3D3D20
> > > you are using in =3D3D3D<BR>>combination with =
the orientation
> of the
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >ribbon=3D3D20
> > > cables will determine =3D3D3D<BR>>this. Have =
you changed them
> around
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >during your=3D3D20
> > > reconfiguration?<BR>><BR>> Start with a new =
SCSI cable and =3D3D
> > >a=3D3D20
> > > single EDS card. Test each MEC. =
Once<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>you know if
> there
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >is a=3D3D20
> > > problem there, add a new SCSI cable and =
another
> =3D3D3D<BR>>card. Put
> =3D
> >=3D3D
> > >different=3D3D20
> > > modules in the MECs so you can see which one =
is on
> =3D3D3D<BR>>card =3D
> >A, =3D3D
> > >B, C at=3D3D20
> > > all times. this will give you the info as to =
how the =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>cards =3D3D
> > >are=3D3D20
> > > initializing and which card is card A, B, C =
as you start =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D<BR>>adding more=3D3D20
> > > hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that =
were working =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D<BR>>perfectly=3D3D20
> > > when I took my system off line. I can't =
imagine it being a =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D20
> > > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious =
issue though. Your =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D<BR>>system=3D3D20
> > > will not function with bad SCSI =
cables.<BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE =3D3D
> > >HTML=3D3D20
> > > PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D3D20
> > > =
Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=3D3D20
> > > http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type =
content=3D3D3D3D"text/html;=3D3D20
> > > =
=3D3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =3D3D
> > >content=3D3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D3D20
> > > 6.00.6000.16414"=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > =
>name=3D3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=3D3D
> > >D><BR>><BODY=3D3D20
> > > =
bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20
> > > =
dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; =3D
> >PADDING-LEFT: =3D3D
> > >5px;=3D3D20
> > > MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: =
#000000 2px solid; =3D3D
> > >MARGIN-RIGHT:=3D3D20
> > > 0px"><BR>> <DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> <DIV>"Tom =
=3D3D
> > >Bruhl"=3D3D20
> > > <<A=3D3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:=
arp=3D
> >egi=3D3D
> > =
>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D3D20
> > > wrote =3D3D3D<BR>>in message=3D3D3D20<BR>> <A =
href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:=
469=3D
> >723=3D3D
> > =
>76@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=3D3D
> > >p;=3D3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>This is really a =3D3D
> > >novice oriented=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D<BR>>question but . .=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D3D20
> > > .</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D3D
> > >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D3D2>It doesn't matter which card =
is the =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D<BR>>"A"=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> > > card</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D3D
> > >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D3D2>in your system as far as =
Paris' ID=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D<BR>>orientation=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20
> > > right?</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT =3D3D
> > >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> > > size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> > ><DIV><BR>> =3D3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, and
> the =3D3D
> > >orientation=3D3D20
> > > of<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>the slots=3D3D3D20<BR>> you =
are using in =3D3D
> > >combination with=3D3D20
> > > the orientation of the ribbon=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
cables will
> determine =3D3D
> > >this.=3D3D20
> > > Have you changed them around during
> =3D3D3D<BR>>your=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
> > >
> > > reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D3D
> > ><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> > > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV><BR>> =3D3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>Start with a new
> SCSI =3D3D
> > >cable and a=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D3D<BR>>single EDS=3D3D3D20<BR>> card. =
Test each MEC. Once
> you =3D3D
> > >know if=3D3D20
> > > there is a problem there, add =
a<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>new =3D3D
> > >SCSI=3D3D3D20<BR>> cable=3D3D20
> > > and another card. Put different modules in =
the MECs so you
> can =3D3D
> > >=3D3D3D<BR>>see=3D3D20
> > > which=3D3D3D20<BR>> one is on card A, B, C at =
all times. this =3D3D
> > >will give you=3D3D20
> > > the info =3D3D3D<BR>>as to=3D3D3D20<BR>> how =
the cards are =3D3D
> > >initializing and=3D3D20
> > > which card is card A, B, C as you =
=3D3D3D<BR>>start=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D
> > >adding more=3D3D20
> > > hardware. the MEC i sent you is one of 4 that =
were=3D3D20
> > > working<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>><BR>> perfectly when I =
took my system =3D3D
> > >off line. I=3D3D20
> > > can't imagine it being a =
=3D3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D3D20<BR>> Bent =3D3D
> > >pins on SCSI=3D3D20
> > > cables can be a serious issue though. Your =
system =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>will=3D3D20
> > > not=3D3D3D20<BR>> function with bad =
SCSI=3D3D20
> > > =3D3D
> > =
>=3D3D3D<BR>>cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>=3D3D
> > >;</BODY></HTML><BR>><BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
> > ><DIV><FONT size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose =
Polesoft Lockspam to fight =3D
> >spam, =3D3D
> > >and=3D3D20
> > >you?<BR><A=3D3D20
> > =3D
> =
>>href=3D3D3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com=
/re
> =
<http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re>=3D
> >fer=3D3D
> > >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 =
Transitional//EN">
> ><HTML><HEAD>
> ><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type =
content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
> >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
> ><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" =
name=3D3DGENERATOR>
> ><STYLE></STYLE>
> ></HEAD>
> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hey =
Rod,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hiding the =
default project didn't
> help=3D20
> >anything. I've never</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>had 2.?? =
installed on this comp
> so I =3D
> >think I'm safe=3D20
> >there regarding</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2>drivers.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am only =
able to intermitantly
> get the
> =3D
> >442 working=3D20
> >as the master.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I think =
that's do to the scsi cable =3D
> >issue. I=3D20
> >need four new ones.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am unable =
to get more than one
> EDS =3D
> >card working=3D20
> >WITH the 442.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Not sure why. =
The ribbons are all =3D
> >wired=3D20
> >correctly.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> =
</DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm off to a =
hellish gigging =3D
> >weekend. No more=3D20
> >time for hell in Paris.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks for =
all your
> input,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; =
MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
0px">
> > <DIV>"Rod Lincoln" <<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A=
>&g
> =
<mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g>=3D
> >t;=3D20
> > wrote in message <A=3D20
> >=20
> =
href=3D3D"news:4697ab8a@linux">news:4697ab8a@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Did
> =
<news:4697ab8a@linux">news:4697ab8a@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Did> =3D
> >you try=3D20
> > hiding the default ppj to see if it would boot =
up with a MEC =3D
> >when<BR>creating=3D20
> > a new session? <BR>Rod<BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> > =
href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20
> =
<mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20>
> > wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Guys,<BR>>I'm all set with =
the cables =3D
> >and the=3D20
> > which card is A bit.<BR>>Rod you were right =
about what I was=3D20
> > asking.<BR>><BR>>In any event I scaled down to =
one EDS (Pretty =3D
> >sure=3D20
> > that's card A =3D3D<BR>>right?!!!)<BR>>and =
plugged it into each of =3D
> >my two=3D20
> > working Mecs. Paris will boot but<BR>>even =
internal clock was =3D
> >never=3D20
> > found nor were the in/outs on each Mec.<BR>>The =
442 on the other =3D
> >hand works=3D20
> > like a champ one card only. I suspect<BR>>either =
all my Mecs =3D
> >are=3D20
> > screwy now or the SCSI cables are intermitant =
=3D
> >at<BR>=3D3D<BR>>best.<BR>>It's=3D20
> > working fine with the 442 so I'm sticking with =
that for =3D
> >today.<BR>>I'll add=3D20
> > my EDS cards one by one and see if that is back =
to=3D20
> > normal.<BR>><BR>>Thanks for the help and if I =
need scsi cables =3D
> >what and=3D20
> > where to buy them<BR>=3D3D<BR>>would be good =
info too.<BR>>Mr=3D20
> > Testy<BR>> "Rod Lincoln" <<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A=
>&g
> =
<mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g>=3D
> >t;=3D20
> > wrote in message =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>news:469780ce$1@linux...<BR>><BR>> =
I=3D20
> > think Tom was asking if there was a "3.0" =
version of the EDS card=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>that needed<BR>> to be connected to =
the master. =3D
> >The answer=3D20
> > to that would be no.=3D3D20<BR>> Is this what =
you were asking=3D20
> > Tom?<BR>> DJ's advice is very important though. =
I would do =3D
> >it, if you=3D20
> > haven't =3D3D<BR>>already.<BR>> I don't want to =
sound like a =3D
> >"RTFM"=3D20
> > kind of guy, but the Paris =3D
> >manual<BR>=3D3D<BR>>describes<BR>> this=3D20
> > procedure pretty well.<BR>> It's on page 4 and 5 =
of the 3.0=3D20
> > version.<BR>> It kind of sounds to me like you =
may not be =3D
> >hooking up=3D20
> > the correct eds<BR>=3D3D<BR>>card<BR>> to the =
master=3D20
> > mec.<BR>> Rod<BR>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ =
=3D
> >dot _=3D20
> > net> wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> =3D20
> > ><BR>> > "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> > =
href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A
> =
<mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>> wrote =3D
> >in message=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>> >news:46972376@linux...<BR>> =3D
> >> This is=3D20
> > really a novice oriented question but . . .<BR>> =
> =3D
> >It=3D20
> > doesn't matter which card is the "A" card<BR>> > =
in =3D
> >your=3D20
> > system as far as Paris' ID orientation =
right?<BR>> =3D
> >><BR>> =3D20
> > > Yes, it does, and the orientation of the slots =
you are =3D
> >using in=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>> >combination with the orientation =
of the ribbon =3D
> >cables=3D20
> > will determine<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >this. =
Have you =3D
> >changed them=3D20
> > around during your reconfiguration?<BR>> ><BR>> =
=3D20
> > > Start with a new SCSI cable and a single EDS =
card. Test =3D
> >each MEC.=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>Once<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>> >you know if =
=3D
> >there is a=3D20
> > problem there, add a new SCSI cable and =
=3D3D<BR>>another =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >card. Put different modules in the MECs so you =
can see which one =3D
> >is=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>on =3D3D3D<BR>> >card A, B, C at all =
times. this =3D
> >will give=3D20
> > you the info as to how =
the<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >cards =3D
> >are=3D20
> > initializing and which card is card A, B, C as =
you start=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >adding more hardware. =
the MEC i =3D
> >sent you is one=3D20
> > of 4 that were =3D3D<BR>>working =3D3D3D<BR>> =
>perfectly =3D
> >when I took my=3D20
> > system off line. I can't imagine it being =3D
> >a<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >problem. Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a =
serious issue though.=3D20
> > Your<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >system will not =
function =3D
> >with bad SCSI=3D20
> > cables.<BR>> ><BR>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC=3D20
> > "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"><BR>> =
=3D20
> > ><HTML><HEAD><BR>> ><META=3D20
> > http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type =
content=3D3D3D3D"text/html; =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >charset=3D3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>> ><META =3D
> >content=3D3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20
> > 6.00.6000.16414" name=3D3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>> =
=3D20
> > ><STYLE></STYLE><BR>> =3D
> >></HEAD><BR>> =3D20
> > ><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>> =3D
> >><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> > dir=3D3D3D3Dltr=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
>style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: =3D
> >0px;=3D20
> > PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
=3D
> >0px"><BR>> =3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D
> >size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20
> > </DIV><BR>> > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl"=3D20
> > <<A=3D3D3D20<BR>> > href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arp=
egi=3D
> >o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>wrote =3D3D3D<BR>> >in =3D
> >message=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D20
> > <A href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:469=
723=3D
> =
>76@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=3D
> >p;=3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>This =3D
> >is really a=3D20
> > novice =3D3D<BR>>oriented =3D3D3D<BR>> >question =
but .=3D20
> > .=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D
> >.</FONT></DIV><BR>> =3D20
> > > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>It =3D
> >doesn't matter=3D20
> > which card =3D3D<BR>>is the =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >>"A"=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > card</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>in =
your system as =3D
> >far as=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>Paris' ID =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >>orientation=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > right?</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20
> > </DIV><BR>> > <DIV><BR>> =3D
> >> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, and =3D
> >the=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>orientation of<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>> =
>the=3D20
> > slots=3D3D3D20<BR>> > you are using in =
combination =3D
> >with the=3D20
> > orientation of the =
=3D3D<BR>>ribbon=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D
> >cables will=3D20
> > determine this. Have you changed them around =
during =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >your=3D3D3D20<BR>> > =3D20
> > reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR>> > =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=3D20
> > </DIV><BR>> > <DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2>Start with a new SCSI cable =
=3D3D<BR>>and a =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >single EDS=3D3D3D20<BR>> > card. Test each MEC. =
=3D
> >Once you=3D20
> > know if there is a problem there, =
add<BR>=3D3D<BR>>a<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>> >new SCSI=3D3D3D20<BR>> > cable =3D
> >and another=3D20
> > card. Put different modules in the MECs so you =
=3D3D<BR>>can =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > >see which=3D3D3D20<BR>> > one is on card A, B, =
C =3D
> >at all=3D20
> > times. this will give you the info =
=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >>as=3D20
> > to=3D3D3D20<BR>> > how the cards are =
initializing and =3D
> >which card=3D20
> > is card A, B, C as =3D3D<BR>>you =3D3D3D<BR>> =
=3D
> >>start=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is =
one of 4 that =3D
> >were=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>working<BR>> =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >><BR>> > =3D20
> > perfectly when I took my system off line. I =
can't imagine it=3D20
> > being<BR>=3D3D<BR>>a =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D
> >>problem.=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a serious =
issue though. =3D
> >Your=3D20
> > system<BR>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>> >will =3D
> >not=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > > function with bad SCSI =3D3D3D<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> >>cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></B=3D
> >ODY></HTML><BR>> =3D20
> > ><BR>> ><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>I choose =3D
> >Polesoft=3D20
> > Lockspam to fight spam, and=3D20
> > you?<BR>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =
=3D20
> > <BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD =
HTML 4.0=3D20
> > =
Transitional//EN"><BR>><HTML><HEAD><BR>><META=3D20
> > http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type =
content=3D3D3D"text/html;=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>charset=3D3D3Diso-8859-1"><BR>><META =
=3D
> >content=3D3D3D"MSHTML=3D20
> > 6.00.2800.1400"=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>name=3D3D3DGENERATOR><BR>><STYLE></STYLE><BR>></HEA=3D
> >D><BR>><BODY=3D20
> > bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>size=3D3D3D2>Guys,</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'm all set with =
the cables and the =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>which=3D20
> > card is =3D
> >A=3D3D20<BR>>bit.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>Rod you were right =
about what I=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>was=3D3D20<BR>>asking.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FO=3D
> >NT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2></FONT> =3D
> ></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>In any event I =
scaled down to one EDS=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>(Pretty sure=3D3D20<BR>>that's card =
A=3D20
> > right?!!!)</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>and plugged it into each of my =
two=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>working=3D3D20<BR>>Mecs. Paris will =
boot=3D20
> > but</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
=3D
> >
> > size=3D3D3D2>even internal clock was never found =
=3D
> >nor<BR>=3D3D<BR>>were=3D20
> > the=3D3D20<BR>>in/outs on each=3D20
> > Mec.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>The 442 on the other hand works =
like =3D
> >a<BR>=3D3D<BR>>champ=3D20
> > one=3D3D20<BR>>card only. I=3D20
> > suspect</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>either all my Mecs are screwy now =
or =3D3D<BR>>the=3D20
> > SCSI=3D3D20<BR>>cables are intermitant at=3D20
> > best.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>It's working fine with the 442 so =
I'm =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>sticking=3D20
> > with=3D3D20<BR>>that for=3D20
> > today.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>I'll add my EDS cards one by one =
and =3D3D<BR>>see if =3D
> >that=3D20
> > is=3D3D20<BR>>back to=3D20
> > normal.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>Thanks for the help and if I need =
=3D
> >scsi<BR>=3D3D<BR>>cables=3D20
> > what=3D3D20<BR>>and where to buy them would be =
good info=3D20
> > too.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =3D
> >face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2>Mr=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>Testy</FONT></DIV><BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20<BR>>style=3D3D=3D
> >3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=3D20
> > 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
=3D3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: =3D
> >#000000 2px=3D20
> > solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Rod =
Lincoln"=3D20
> > <<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A=
>&a=3D
> =
>mp;g'>mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</=3D
> >A>&g</A>=3D3D<BR>>t;=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > wrote in message <A=3D3D20<BR>> =
href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D'news:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>I=
'>n=3D
> =
>ews:469780ce$1@linux">news:469780ce$1@linux</A>...</DIV>&l=3D
> >t;BR>I</A><BR>=3D3D<BR>>think=3D20
> > Tom=3D3D20<BR>> was asking if there was a "3.0" =
version of the =3D
> >EDS card=3D20
> > that =3D3D<BR>>needed<BR>to be=3D3D20<BR>> =
connected to =3D
> >the master.=3D20
> > The answer to that would be no. <BR>Is this =
=3D3D<BR>>what=3D20
> > you=3D3D20<BR>> were asking Tom?<BR>DJ's advice =
is very =3D
> >important=3D20
> > though. I would do =3D3D<BR>>it, if=3D3D20<BR>> =
you haven't=3D20
> > already.<BR>I don't want to sound like a "RTFM" =
kind of =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>guy,=3D20
> > but=3D3D20<BR>> the Paris manual =
describes<BR>this =3D
> >procedure pretty=3D20
> > well.<BR>It's on =3D3D<BR>>page 4=3D3D20<BR>> =
and 5 of =3D
> >the 3.0=3D20
> > version.<BR>It kind of sounds to me like you =
may=3D20
> > not<BR>=3D3D<BR>>be=3D3D20<BR>> hooking up the =
correct eds=3D20
> > card<BR>to the master =3D
> >mec.<BR>Rod<BR>"DJ"=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net>=3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D20
> > wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> "Tom =3D
> >Bruhl"=3D20
> > <<A=3D3D20<BR>> href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arp=
egi=3D
> >o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A</A>>>=3D20
> > wrote =3D3D<BR>>in message=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>news:46972376@linux...<BR>> This is =
really =3D
> >a=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>novice oriented=3D3D20<BR>> question =
but . . =3D
> >.<BR>> It=3D20
> > doesn't matter which card is the =
=3D3D<BR>>"A"=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > card<BR>> in your system as far as Paris' =
ID=3D20
> > orientation=3D3D20<BR>> right?<BR>><BR>> Yes, =
=3D
> >it does,=3D20
> > and the orientation of the =
=3D3D<BR>>slots=3D3D20<BR>> you are =3D
> >using in=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>combination with the orientation of =
the=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>ribbon=3D3D20<BR>> cables will =
determine =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>this.=3D20
> > Have you changed them around =3D3D<BR>>during =
your=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >
> > reconfiguration?<BR>><BR>> Start with a new SCSI =
=3D
> >cable and=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>a=3D3D20<BR>> single EDS card. Test =
each MEC.=3D20
> > Once<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>you know if there =
=3D3D<BR>>is=3D20
> > a=3D3D20<BR>> problem there, add a new SCSI =
cable and another=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>card. Put =
=3D3D<BR>>different=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >modules in the=3D20
> > MECs so you can see which one is on =
=3D3D3D<BR>>card A, =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>B, C=3D20
> > at=3D3D20<BR>> all times. this will give you the =
info as to how =3D
> >the=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>cards =3D3D<BR>>are=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >initializing and which=3D20
> > card is card A, B, C as you start =
=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>adding =3D
> >
> > more=3D3D20<BR>> hardware. the MEC i sent you is =
one of 4 that =3D
> >were=3D20
> > working =
=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>perfectly=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >when I took my=3D20
> > system off line. I can't imagine it being a=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D20<BR>> Bent =
pins on =3D
> >SCSI cables=3D20
> > can be a serious issue though. Your=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>system=3D3D20<BR>> will =
not =3D
> >function with bad=3D20
> > SCSI cables.<BR>><BR>><!DOCTYPE=3D20
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> >face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D
> ><DIV>"Tom=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>Bruhl"=3D3D20<BR>> =
<<A=3D3D3D20<BR>>=3D20
> > href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> =
>=3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net&l=3D=
> =
>t;/A'>mailto:arpegi=3D3D<BR>>o@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net<=3D
> >;/A</A>>>=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > wrote =3D3D3D<BR>>in message=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
<A=3D20
> > href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> =
>=3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>=3D
> =
>;...</DIV'>news:469723=3D3D<BR>>76@linux">news:46972376@linux&l=3D
> >t;/A>...</DIV</A>><BR>>&nbs=3D3D<BR>>p;=3D3D20=3D
> ><BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>This is really a=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>novice oriented=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>question but .=3D20
> > .=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > .</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =
size=3D3D3D3D2>It =3D
> >doesn't matter which=3D20
> > card is the =
=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>"A"=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > card</FONT></DIV><BR>> <DIV><FONT=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =
size=3D3D3D3D2>in your =3D
> >system as far=3D20
> > as Paris' ID=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>orientation=3D3D3D20<BR>>=3D20
> > =3D3D20<BR>> right?</FONT></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> > <DIV><FONT =
=3D3D<BR>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>>=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>><DIV><BR>> =3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> ><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, =
and the=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>orientation=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >of<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>the=3D20
> > slots=3D3D3D20<BR>> you are using in =
=3D3D<BR>>combination=3D20
> > with=3D3D20<BR>> the orientation of the =3D
> >ribbon=3D3D3D20<BR>> cables=3D20
> > will determine =3D3D<BR>>this.=3D3D20<BR>> Have =
you changed =3D
> >them around=3D20
> > during =3D3D3D<BR>>your=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>><BR>> =3D20
> > reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR>>=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20<BR>> =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT> </DIV><BR>> =3D
> >=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > <DIV><FONT face=3D3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D3D2>Start with a new =3D
> >SCSI=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>cable and a=3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D3D3D<BR>>single=3D20
> > EDS=3D3D3D20<BR>> card. Test each MEC. Once you =
=3D3D<BR>>know =3D
> >
> > if=3D3D20<BR>> there is a problem there, =
add=3D20
> > a<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>>new =
=3D3D<BR>>SCSI=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >
> > cable=3D3D20<BR>> and another card. Put =
different modules in =3D
> >the MECs so=3D20
> > you can =3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>see=3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D20
> > which=3D3D3D20<BR>> one is on card A, B, C at =
all times. this=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>will give you=3D3D20<BR>> the info =3D
> >=3D3D3D<BR>>as=3D20
> > to=3D3D3D20<BR>> how the cards are =
=3D3D<BR>>initializing=3D20
> > and=3D3D20<BR>> which card is card A, B, C as =
you=3D20
> > =3D3D3D<BR>>start=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
=3D3D<BR>>adding=3D20
> > more=3D3D20<BR>> hardware. the MEC i sent you is =
one of 4 that=3D20
> > were=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >working<BR>=3D3D3D<BR>><BR>>=3D20
> > perfectly when I took my system =3D3D<BR>>off =
line. =3D
> >I=3D3D20<BR>> can't=3D20
> > imagine it being a =
=3D3D3D<BR>>problem.=3D3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >Bent=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>pins on SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> cables can be =
a serious =3D
> >issue though.=3D20
> > Your system =3D3D3D<BR>>will=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >not=3D3D3D20<BR>>=3D20
> > function with bad SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > =3D
> =
>=3D3D<BR>>=3D3D3D<BR>>cables.</FONT></DIV></DIV>=3D
> >;</BLOCKQUOTE>=3D3D<BR>>;</BODY></HTML><BR>>&=3D
> >lt;BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> > size=3D3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam =
to fight =3D
> >spam,=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>=3D3D<BR>>and=3D3D20<BR>>you?<BR><A=3D3D20<BR>>href=3D3D3D "<A=3D20
> > =3D
> =
>href=3D3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/re=
fer=3D
> =
>'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</A=3D=
> >>=3D3D<BR>>.html</A>=3D20
> > =3D
> ></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML><BR>><BR>><BR></=3D
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Aaron,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm on it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>t</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Aaron Allen" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:know-spam@not_here.dude">know-spam@not_here.dude</A>> =
wrote in=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Yup. Strip it ALL down to a PC only =
with video=20
card, one EDS and one MEC. Get that flying, add a second EDS.. pull =
the 2nd=20
EDS, try another, etc... do the same with MEC's and cables. =
</FONT></DIV><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>
<DIV><BR>AA</DIV>
<DIV></FONT> </DIV>
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BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A =
href=3D"news:469c263f@linux">news:469c263f@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Intermitant success is the best =
I've got right=20
now.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I plan to install Paris on another =
comp, try=20
each EDS</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>individually and each SCSI =
cable=20
individually with the 442. If</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>all goes well or not I will have an =
answer. Next, try the same in </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the actual </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial size=3D2>Paris=20
rig without the Magma. If I can get regular</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Paris boots there then it's the =
Magma power=20
supply</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>or Magma cable. I'm thinking =
power=20
supply. I always</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>had all 5 EDS cards showing even =
when the=20
hardware</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>attached to them =
wasn't.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Does this sound like a logical =
approach to=20
you?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm sick of chasing my =
tail.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Aaron Allen" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:know-spam@not_here.dude">know-spam@not_here.dude</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
href=3D"news:469bfc6c@linux">news:469bfc6c@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I don't s'pose it could hurt if =
they're=20
tarnished. My experiences though with the issue your seeing have =
been bad=20
SCSI cables. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Start small, test every little =
component,=20
unless you've got a bent up input pin somewhere (and I'd light =
them well=20
and magnifying lense them all) I'm having a hard time buying that =
you have=20
4 dead cables out of the blue though, something caused that if =
it's the=20
case. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>AA</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A =
href=3D"news:469b74bf@linux">news:469b74bf@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Aaron,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hyperthreading is off. =
I'll double=20
check though. I'd love to save the money</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>on those scsi =
cables.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What do you think about Deoxit =
in the=20
female scsi jacks?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Aaron Allen" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:know-spam@not_here.dude">know-spam@not_here.dude</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
href=3D"news:469aead6@linux">news:469aead6@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This might be flogging =
the rented=20
and dead mule, but you did verify that dual core was off =
in this=20
equation, and hadn't been flipped back on by a =
gremlin?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><BR>AA</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote=20
in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:469ad5e8@linux">news:469ad5e8@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ya Jeff,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>At least half the times no =
C-16 was=20
attached.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Do you think that a bad =
C-16 cable=20
could cause these issues?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll remove them from the =
setup until=20
all is well.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I know at least =
a few times=20
it worked that the C-16 did also.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Jeff Hoover" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:4699b378@linux">news:4699b378@linux</A>...</DIV>Tom,<BR><BR>=
Stupid=20
question, but did you ever start up without any =
c16's? If so=20
did <BR>you see the same =
issue?<BR><BR>Jeff<BR><BR><BR>Bruhl=20
wrote:<BR>> Rod,<BR>> I am working from a clone that =
was=20
totally good with two<BR>> fully loaded Mecs. I =
have to=20
assume the drivers are good.<BR>> I'm looking for a =
good vendor=20
for SCSI cables now.<BR>> They're called SCSI 2 =
right?<BR>>=20
<A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.m2cables.com/SCSI2toSCSI2CablesHDB50MtoML6.html">http:=
//www.m2cables.com/SCSI2toSCSI2CablesHDB50MtoML6.html</A><BR >> =20
<BR>> I'm thinking of cleaning the female jacks on the =
mec and=20
EDS to be<BR>> sure all is well. Any sprays =
anyone=20
suggests? I've got Deoxit.<BR>> Good?<BR>> =
Tom<BR>>=20
<BR>> "Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A><B=
R>> =20
<<A=20
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href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.co=
m</A>>>=20
wrote in message<BR>> <A=20
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href=3D"news:4697f7e2$1@linux">news:4697f7e2$1@linux</A>...<BR>>=20
<BR>> Tom, sounds like it =
probably is a=20
scsi issue. Your running xp =
right?<BR>> =20
The new<BR>> Scherzo drivers =
are for xp=20
verses 98 not for 3.0 verses =
2.x<BR>> =20
Come to think of it. you probably whoudn't have had any =
old=20
drivers<BR>> on=20
your<BR>> xp sys drive =
anyway...never=20
mind.<BR>> =20
Rod<BR>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
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href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A> <<A=20
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href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">mailto:arpegio@comcast.net</A>>>=
;=20
wrote:<BR> > =2 0
><BR> > =2 0
><BR>> >Hey=20
Rod,<BR>> >Hiding the =
default=20
project didn't help anything. I've=20
never<BR>> >had 2.?? =
installed=20
on this comp so I think I'm safe there=20
regarding<BR> > =2 0
>drivers.<BR> > =2 0
><BR>> >I am only =
able to=20
intermitantly get the 442 working as the=20
master.<BR>> >I think =
that's=20
do to the scsi cable issue. I need four new=20
ones.<BR>> >I am =
unable to get=20
more than one EDS card working WITH the=20
442.<BR>> >Not sure =
why. =20
The ribbons are all wired=20
correctly.<BR> > =2 0
><BR>> >I'm off to =
a=20
hellish gigging weekend. No more time for hell in=20
Paris.<BR>> >Thanks =
for all=20
your input,<BR> > =2 0
>Tom<BR>> > =
"Rod=20
Lincoln" <<A=20
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href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A><B=
R>> =20
<<A=20
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href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.co=
m</A>>>=20
wrote in message =3D<BR>> =
=
>news:4697ab8a@linux...<BR> > =2 0
><BR>> > Did =
you try=20
hiding the default ppj to see if it would boot=20
up<BR>> with a=20
=3D<BR>> >MEC=20
when<BR>> > =
creating a=20
new session?=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
Rod<BR>> > "Tom =
Bruhl"=20
<<A =
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>=20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">mailto:arpegio@comcast.net</A>>>=
;<BR>> =20
wrote:<BR>> > =20
><BR>> > =20
><BR>> > =20
>Guys,<BR>> > =
>I'm=20
all set with the cables and the which card is A=20
bit.<BR>> > =
>Rod you=20
were right about what I was=20
asking.<BR>> > =20
><BR>> > =
>In any=20
event I scaled down to one EDS (Pretty sure that's=20
card<BR>> A=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>right?!!!)<BR>> =
> =20
>and plugged it into each of my two working Mecs. =
Paris=20
will<BR>> boot=20
but<BR>> > =
>even=20
internal clock was never found nor were the in/outs=20
on<BR>> each=20
Mec.<BR>> > =
>The 442=20
on the other hand works like a champ one card only. =
I=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>suspect<BR>> =
> =20
>either all my Mecs are screwy now or the SCSI cables=20
are<BR>> =20
intermitant<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>at<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>best.<BR>> > =
>It's working fine with the 442 so I'm sticking with =
that for=20
today.<BR>> > =
>I'll=20
add my EDS cards one by one and see if that is back to=20
normal.<BR>> > =20
><BR>> > =
>Thanks=20
for the help and if I need scsi cables what and where=20
to<BR>> buy=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>them<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>would be=20
good info too.<BR>> =
> =20
>Mr Testy<BR>> =
> =20
> "Rod Lincoln" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A><B=
R>> =20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.co=
m</A>>>=20
wrote in message =
=3D3D<BR> > =2 0
> =20
=
>news:469780ce$1@linux...<BR> > =2 0
> ><BR>> =
> =20
> I think Tom was asking if there was a "3.0" =
version of=20
the<BR>> EDS=20
card<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =
>that=20
needed<BR>> > =
> =20
to be connected to the master. The answer to that would=20
be<BR>> =20
no.=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> Is this what you were asking=20
Tom?<BR>> > =
> =20
DJ's advice is very important though. I would do it, if=20
you<BR>> =20
haven't<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =
>already.<BR>> =
> =20
> I don't want to sound like a "RTFM" kind of =
guy, but=20
the Paris =3D<BR> > =2 0
>manual<BR>> =
> =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>describes<BR>> =
> =20
> this procedure pretty=20
well.<BR>> > =
> =20
It's on page 4 and 5 of the 3.0=20
version.<BR>> > =20
> It kind of sounds to me like you may not be =
hooking up=20
the<BR>> =20
correct<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>eds<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>card<BR>> > =20
> to the master=20
mec.<BR>> > =
> =20
Rod<BR>> > =
> =20
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net>=20
wrote:<BR>> > =
> =20
><BR>> > =
> =20
><BR>> > =
> =20
><BR>> > =
> =20
> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A><BR>> =
=20
<<A=20
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href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">mailto:arpegio@comcast.net</A>>>=
;=20
wrote in message =
=3D3D3D<BR> > =2 0
> > =20
=
>news:46972376@linux...<BR> > =2 0
> > > This is really a novice =
oriented=20
question but . . .<BR> > =2 0
> > > It doesn't matter which =
card is=20
the "A" card<BR>> =
> =20
> > in your system as far as Paris' ID=20
orientation right?<BR> > =2 0
> > =
><BR> > =2 0
> > > Yes, it does, and the =
orientation=20
of the slots you are<BR>> using =
in<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
> >combination with the orientation of the =
ribbon=20
cables will =3D<BR> > =2 0
>determine<BR>> =
> =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
> >this. Have you changed them around during =
your=20
reconfiguration?<BR>> =
> =20
> ><BR>> =
> =20
> > Start with a new SCSI cable and a =
single EDS=20
card. Test each =3D<BR>> =
>MEC.=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>Once<BR>> > =20
> =3D3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
> >you know if there is a problem there, add a =
new=20
SCSI cable<BR>> and=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>another=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>card. Put different modules in the MECs so you can see =
which<BR>> one=20
=3D<BR>> >is=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>on=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>card A, B, C at all times. this will give you the info =
as=20
to<BR>> how=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>the<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
> >cards are initializing and which card is =
card A, B,=20
C as you<BR>> =20
start<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =
>=3D3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
> >adding more hardware. the MEC i sent you is =
one of=20
4 that<BR>> were=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>working=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>perfectly when I took my system off line. I can't =
imagine=20
it<BR>> =20
being<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>a<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
> >problem. Bent pins on SCSI cables can be a =
serious=20
issue<BR>> though.=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>Your<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
> >system will not function with bad SCSI=20
cables.<BR>> > =20
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<<A=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> > <BR>> =
href=3D3D3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A'>mailto:arpegi=
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=20
<<A=20
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=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =
>wrote=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>in =
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> > > <A=20
=3D<BR>> =
>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=20
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href=3D'news:46972376@linux">news:46972376@linux</A>...</DIV'>news:469723=
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> > > <DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>This is really=20
a<BR>> =20
novice<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =
>oriented =3D3D3D<BR>> =
> > >question but .=20
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> =20
> > =20
=
..</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> > > <DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>It doesn't=20
matter<BR>> =20
which<BR>> =20
=3D<BR>> >card=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>is the=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>"A"=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> > =20
=
card</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> > > <DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>in your system=20
as<BR>> far=20
=3D<BR>> >as=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>Paris' ID=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
=
>orientation=3D3D3D20<BR> > =2 0
> > > =20
=
right?</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> > > <DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> =
> =20
> > =20
<DIV><BR>> =
> =20
> > <DIV><FONT =
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size=3D3D3D3D2>Yes, it does, =
and<BR>> =20
the =3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =
>orientation of<BR> > =2 0
> > =
=3D3D3D<BR> > =2 0
> > >the=20
slots=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> > you are using in combination with =
the=20
orientation of the =
=3D3D<BR> > =2 0
> =
>ribbon=3D3D3D20<BR> > =2 0
> > > cables will determine =
this. Have=20
you changed them around<BR>> =20
during<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
> =
>your=3D3D3D20<BR> > =2 0
> > > =20
=
reconfiguration?</FONT></DIV><BR >> =
=20
> > > <DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> =
> =20
> > <DIV><FONT =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D3D2>Start with a =
new<BR>> =20
SCSI =3D<BR>> >cable=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>and a=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>single =
EDS=3D3D3D20<BR> > =2 0
> > > card. Test each MEC. Once =
you=20
know if there is a problem<BR>> =
there,<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>add<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>a<BR>> > =
> =20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>new =
SCSI=3D3D3D20<BR> > =2 0
> > > cable and another card. =
Put=20
different modules in the =
MECs<BR>> so=20
you<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =
>can=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>see =
which=3D3D3D20<BR> > =2 0
> > > one is on card A, B, C at =
all=20
times. this will give you<BR>> =
the=20
info<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =
>=3D3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
> >as =
to=3D3D3D20<BR> > =2 0
> > > how the cards are =
initializing=20
and which card is card A,<BR>> =
B, C=20
as<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =
>you=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
>start=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
> > adding more hardware. the MEC i sent =
you is=20
one of 4 that<BR>> were=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>=3D3D<BR>> > =
>working<BR>> =
> =20
> =3D3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
> ><BR>> =
> =20
> > perfectly when I took my system off =
line. I=20
can't imagine it =3D<BR>> =
>being<BR>> > =
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>a=20
=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
=
>problem.=3D3D3D20<BR> > =2 0
> > > Bent pins on SCSI cables =
can be a=20
serious issue though. Your =
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>system<BR>> =
> =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>=3D3D3D<BR>> =
> =20
> >will=20
not=3D3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
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=3D3D3D<BR>> > =
> =20
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size=3D3D3D2>Guys,</FONT></DIV&a mp;gt; <BR>> &=
nbsp; =20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>I'm all set with =
the<BR>> =20
cables and<BR>> =20
=3D<BR>> >the=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>which=20
card is A=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
=
>bit.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>Rod you were right=20
about<BR>> what=20
I<BR>> =20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>was=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
=
>asking.</FONT></DIV><BR >>  =
;=20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> =
> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>In any event=20
I scaled down<BR>> to=20
=3D<BR>> >one EDS=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>(Pretty=20
sure=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
>that's card A=20
=
right?!!!)</FONT></DIV><BR>> =
=20
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>and plugged it into=20
each<BR>> of my=20
=3D<BR>> >two=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =20
>working=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
>Mecs. Paris will boot=20
=
but</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>even internal clock=20
was<BR>> never=20
=3D<BR>> >found=20
nor<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>were=20
the=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
>in/outs on each=20
=
Mec.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>The 442 on the other=20
hand<BR>> =20
works<BR>> =20
=3D<BR>> >like=20
a<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>champ=20
one=3D3D20<BR>> =
> >card=20
only. I=20
=
suspect</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>either all my Mecs=20
are<BR>> screwy=20
=3D<BR>> >now or=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>the=20
SCSI=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
>cables are intermitant at=20
=
best.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>It's working fine with=20
the<BR>> 442=20
=3D<BR>> >so I'm=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>sticking=20
with=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
>that for=20
=
today.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2>I'll add my EDS cards=20
one<BR>> by=20
one<BR>> =20
=3D<BR>> >and=20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>see if=20
that is=3D3D20<BR>> =
> =20
>back to=20
=
normal.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D3D2></FONT>=20
</DIV><BR>> =
> =20
><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>Thanks for=20
the help and if I =
=3D<BR>> >need=20
scsi<BR>> > =20
=3D3D<BR>> > =
>cables=20
what=3D3D20<BR>> =
> >and=20
where to buy them would be good info=20
=
too.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3D3DArial =
size=3D3D3D2>Mr=20
=
Testy</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
> =20
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I=20
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</DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am =
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=3D<BR> > =2 0
>issue. I=3D20<BR>> =
>need=20
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=
ones.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am =
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=3D<BR>> >card=20
working=3D20<BR>> =
>WITH the=20
=
442.</FONT></DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Not =
sure why. The=20
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>wired=3D20<BR> > =2 0
=
>correctly.</FONT></DIV><BR >> &n=
bsp;=20
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</DIV><BR> > =2 0
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm =
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> =20
which card is A bit.<BR>>Rod you were right about =
what I=20
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asking.<BR>><BR>>I n any event I scaled =
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one EDS (Pretty =3D<BR> > =2 0
>sure=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
that's card A =
=3D3D<BR>>right?!!!)<BR>& amp;gt;and plugged=20
it into each of =3D<BR>> =
>my=20
two=3D20<BR>> > =
working=20
Mecs. Paris will boot but<BR>>even internal clock =
was=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>never=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
found nor were the in/outs on each Mec.<BR>>The =
442 on=20
the other =3D<BR>> =
>hand=20
works=3D20<BR>> =
> like a=20
champ one card only. I suspect<BR>>either all my =
Mecs=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>are=3D20<BR>> =
> screwy=20
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=3D<BR> > =2 0
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bsp; =20
> working fine with the 442 so I'm sticking with =
that for=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
>today.<BR>>I'll=20
add=3D20<BR>> > =
my EDS=20
cards one by one and see if that is back=20
to=3D20<BR>> > =20
normal.<BR>><BR>>T hanks for the help and =
if I=20
need scsi cables =3D<BR>> =
>what=20
and=3D20<BR>> > =
where to=20
buy them<BR>=3D3D<BR>>would be good info=20
=
too.<BR>>Mr=3D20<BR> > =2 0
> Testy<BR>> "Rod Lincoln"=20
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> wrote=20
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=
>=3D3D<BR>>news:469780ce$1@linux...<BR>><BR>&g=
t;=20
I=3D20<BR>> > =
think Tom=20
was asking if there was a "3.0" version of the EDS=20
card=3D20<BR>> > =
=3D3D<BR>>that needed<BR>> to be =
connected to the=20
master. =3D<BR>> >The=20
answer=3D20<BR>> =
> to that=20
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asking=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
Tom?<BR>> DJ's advice is very important though. I =
would=20
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haven't=20
=3D3D<BR>>already.<BR>&am p;gt; I don't want to =
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> =20
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=3D<BR> > =2 0
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>manual<BR>=3D3D<BR>& gt;describes<BR>>=20
this=3D20<BR>> > =
procedure=20
pretty well.<BR>> It's on page 4 and 5 of the=20
3.0=3D20<BR>> > =20
version.<BR>> It kind of sounds to me like you =
may not be=20
=3D<BR>> >hooking=20
up=3D20<BR>> > =
the correct=20
eds<BR>=3D3D<BR>>card& ;lt;BR>> to the=20
master=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
mec.<BR>> Rod<BR>> "DJ" <animix _ at =
_ animas=20
_ =3D<BR>> >dot=20
_=3D20<BR>> > =
net>=20
wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> =
=3D20<BR>> > =20
><BR>> > "Tom Bruhl"=20
<<A=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
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wrote =3D<BR>> >in=20
message=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
=3D3D3D<BR>> =
>news:46972376@linux...<BR>>=20
=3D<BR>> >> This=20
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EDS card.=20
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> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>In any event I =
scaled down=20
to one EDS=3D20<BR>> =
> =20
=3D3D<BR>>(Pretty sure=3D3D20<BR>>that's =
card=20
A=3D20<BR>> > =20
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right?!!!)</FONT></DIV><B R>><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
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>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR> > =2 0
> size=3D3D3D2>and plugged it into each of my=20
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=3D3D<BR>>working=3D3D20<BR& gt;>Mecs. Paris =
will=20
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but</FONT></DIV><BR&g t;><DIV><FONT=20
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size=3D3D3D2>even internal clock was never found=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
=
>nor<BR>=3D3D<BR>> were=3D20 <BR>> &n=
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=
Mec.</FONT></DIV><BR& gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
=
>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR> > =2 0
> size=3D3D3D2>The 442 on the other hand works =
like=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
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suspect</FONT></DIV><BR&a mp;gt;><DIV><FONT=20
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>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR> > =2 0
> size=3D3D3D2>either all my Mecs are screwy =
now or=20
=
=3D3D<BR>>the=3D20<BR> > =2 0
> SCSI=3D3D20<BR>>cables are intermitant =
at=3D20<BR>> > =20
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best.</FONT></DIV><BR& ;gt;><DIV><FONT=20
=3D<BR> > =2 0
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>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR> > =2 0
> size=3D3D3D2>It's working fine with the 442 =
so I'm=20
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>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20<BR> > =2 0
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> size=3D3D3D2>Thanks for the help and if I =
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| Re: Paris hardware troubles won't stop. HELP!!! [message #88233 is a reply to message #88232] |
Mon, 16 July 2007 22:39 |
Aaron Allen
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Tom, you may find it useful to print out an excel trouble shooting chart =
and check off the items as you tag them good/bad. I find that keeping up =
with 'everything' on a deal like this (IE, never enough time to just do =
it all in one sitting) is just about impossible. Label each 'part', give =
it a proper set of troubleshooting criteria (like say, SCSI cable 1, 2, =
3, 4 or EDS 1,2,3,4 and label each part with gaff tape). If you come up =
on a bad MEC, pull all expansion cards and make sure that's not biting =
you. Don't forget to mark what expansion came from what slot in what =
MEC.=20
Just be methodical man, I know you'll find it.=20
AA
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:469c4fda@linux...
Aaron,
I'm on it.
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"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =
news:469c4ccb@linux...
Yup. Strip it ALL down to a PC only with video card, one EDS and one =
MEC. Get that flying, add a second EDS.. pull the 2nd EDS, try another, =
etc... do the same with MEC's and cables.=20
AA
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:469c263f@linux...
Intermitant success is the best I've got right now.
I plan to install Paris on another comp, try each EDS
individually and each SCSI cable individually with the 442. If
all goes well or not I will have an answer. Next, try the same in =
the actual Paris rig without the Magma. If I can get regular
Paris boots there then it's the Magma power supply
or Magma cable. I'm thinking power supply. I always
had all 5 EDS cards showing even when the hardware
attached to them wasn't.
Does this sound like a logical approach to you?
I'm sick of chasing my tail.
Tom
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =
news:469bfc6c@linux...
I don't s'pose it could hurt if they're tarnished. My =
experiences though with the issue your seeing have been bad SCSI cables. =
Start small, test every little component, unless you've got a =
bent up input pin somewhere (and I'd light them well and magnifying =
lense them all) I'm having a hard time buying that you have 4 dead =
cables out of the blue though, something caused that if it's the case.=20
AA
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:469b74bf@linux...
Aaron,
Hyperthreading is off. I'll double check though. I'd love to =
save the money
on those scsi cables.
What do you think about Deoxit in the female scsi jacks?
Tom
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =
news:469aead6@linux...
This might be flogging the rented and dead mule, but you did =
verify that dual core was off in this equation, and hadn't been flipped =
back on by a gremlin?
AA
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:469ad5e8@linux...
Ya Jeff,
At least half the times no C-16 was attached.
Do you think that a bad C-16 cable could cause these =
issues?
I'll remove them from the setup until all is well.
I know at least a few times it worked that the C-16 did =
also.
Tom=20
"Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message =
news:4699b378@linux...
Tom,
Stupid question, but did you ever start up without any =
c16's? If so did=20
you see the same issue?
Jeff
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I find=20
that keeping up with 'everything' on a deal like this (IE, never enough =
time to=20
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3, 4 or=20
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pull all expansion cards and make sure that's not biting you. Don't =
forget to=20
mark what expansion came from what slot in what MEC. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just be methodical man, I know you'll =
find it.=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>AA</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
in message=20
<A href=3D"news:469c4fda@linux">news:469c4fda@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Aaron,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm on it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>t</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Aaron Allen" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:know-spam@not_here.dude">know-spam@not_here.dude</A>> =
wrote=20
in message <A =
href=3D"news:469c4ccb@linux">news:469c4ccb@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Yup. Strip it ALL down to a PC only =
with video=20
card, one EDS and one MEC. Get that flying, add a second EDS.. pull =
the 2nd=20
EDS, try another, etc... do the same with MEC's and cables.=20
</FONT></DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>
<DIV><BR>AA</DIV>
<DIV></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A =
href=3D"news:469c263f@linux">news:469c263f@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Intermitant success is the best =
I've got=20
right now.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I plan to install Paris on =
another comp, try=20
each EDS</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>individually and each SCSI =
cable=20
individually with the 442. If</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>all goes well or not I will have =
an=20
answer. Next, try the same in </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the actual </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>Paris rig without the Magma. If I can get=20
regular</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Paris boots there then it's the =
Magma power=20
supply</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>or Magma cable. I'm =
thinking power=20
supply. I always</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>had all 5 EDS cards showing even =
when the=20
hardware</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>attached to them =
wasn't.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Does this sound like a logical =
approach to=20
you?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm sick of chasing my =
tail.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Aaron Allen" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:know-spam@not_here.dude">know-spam@not_here.dude</A>>=20
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href=3D"news:469bfc6c@linux">news:469bfc6c@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I don't s'pose it could hurt if =
they're=20
tarnished. My experiences though with the issue your seeing have =
been=20
bad SCSI cables. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Start small, test every little =
component,=20
unless you've got a bent up input pin somewhere (and I'd light =
them well=20
and magnifying lense them all) I'm having a hard time buying =
that you=20
have 4 dead cables out of the blue though, something caused that =
if it's=20
the case. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>AA</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote in =
message <A =
href=3D"news:469b74bf@linux">news:469b74bf@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Aaron,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hyperthreading is off. =
I'll double=20
check though. I'd love to save the money</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>on those scsi =
cables.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What do you think about =
Deoxit in the=20
female scsi jacks?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Aaron Allen" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:know-spam@not_here.dude">know-spam@not_here.dude</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:469aead6@linux">news:469aead6@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This might be flogging =
the rented=20
and dead mule, but you did verify that dual core was =
off in=20
this equation, and hadn't been flipped back on by a=20
gremlin?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><BR>AA</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:469ad5e8@linux">news:469ad5e8@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ya Jeff,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>At least half the times =
no C-16 was=20
attached.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Do you think that a bad =
C-16 cable=20
could cause these issues?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll remove them from the =
setup until=20
all is well.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I know at least =
a few times=20
it worked that the C-16 did also.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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=
href=3D"mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:4699b378@linux">news:4699b378@linux</A>...</DIV>Tom,<BR><BR>=
Stupid=20
question, but did you ever start up without any =
c16's? If=20
so did <BR>you see the same=20
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Thanks Aaron. I'm moving the small stuff up to an open area with =
another comp right now.
I'll begin my madness shortly. I don't have Excel but I am wicked good =
with chisel and stone.
I'll post when something turns up to get your opinion(s).
Tom
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =
news:469c5774@linux...
Tom, you may find it useful to print out an excel trouble shooting =
chart and check off the items as you tag them good/bad. I find that =
keeping up with 'everything' on a deal like this (IE, never enough time =
to just do it all in one sitting) is just about impossible. Label each =
'part', give it a proper set of troubleshooting criteria (like say, SCSI =
cable 1, 2, 3, 4 or EDS 1,2,3,4 and label each part with gaff tape). If =
you come up on a bad MEC, pull all expansion cards and make sure that's =
not biting you. Don't forget to mark what expansion came from what slot =
in what MEC.=20
Just be methodical man, I know you'll find it.=20
AA
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:469c4fda@linux...
Aaron,
I'm on it.
t
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =
news:469c4ccb@linux...
Yup. Strip it ALL down to a PC only with video card, one EDS and =
one MEC. Get that flying, add a second EDS.. pull the 2nd EDS, try =
another, etc... do the same with MEC's and cables.=20
AA
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:469c263f@linux...
Intermitant success is the best I've got right now.
I plan to install Paris on another comp, try each EDS
individually and each SCSI cable individually with the 442. If
all goes well or not I will have an answer. Next, try the same =
in=20
the actual Paris rig without the Magma. If I can get regular
Paris boots there then it's the Magma power supply
or Magma cable. I'm thinking power supply. I always
had all 5 EDS cards showing even when the hardware
attached to them wasn't.
Does this sound like a logical approach to you?
I'm sick of chasing my tail.
Tom
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =
news:469bfc6c@linux...
I don't s'pose it could hurt if they're tarnished. My =
experiences though with the issue your seeing have been bad SCSI cables. =
Start small, test every little component, unless you've got a =
bent up input pin somewhere (and I'd light them well and magnifying =
lense them all) I'm having a hard time buying that you have 4 dead =
cables out of the blue though, something caused that if it's the case.=20
AA
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:469b74bf@linux...
Aaron,
Hyperthreading is off. I'll double check though. I'd love =
to save the money
on those scsi cables.
What do you think about Deoxit in the female scsi jacks?
Tom
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =
news:469aead6@linux...
This might be flogging the rented and dead mule, but you =
did verify that dual core was off in this equation, and hadn't been =
flipped back on by a gremlin?
AA
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:469ad5e8@linux...
Ya Jeff,
At least half the times no C-16 was attached.
Do you think that a bad C-16 cable could cause these =
issues?
I'll remove them from the setup until all is well.
I know at least a few times it worked that the C-16 did =
also.
Tom=20
"Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message =
news:4699b378@linux...
Tom,
Stupid question, but did you ever start up without any =
c16's? If so did=20
you see the same issue?
Jeff
I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks Aaron. I'm moving the =
small stuff up=20
to an open area with another comp right now.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll begin my madness shortly. I =
don't have=20
Excel but I am wicked good with chisel and stone.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll post when something turns up to =
get your=20
opinion(s).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Aaron Allen" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:know-spam@not_here.dude">know-spam@not_here.dude</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A =
href=3D"news:469c5774@linux">news:469c5774@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom, you may find it useful to print =
out an excel=20
trouble shooting chart and check off the items as you tag them =
good/bad. I=20
find that keeping up with 'everything' on a deal like this (IE, never =
enough=20
time to just do it all in one sitting) is just about impossible. Label =
each=20
'part', give it a proper set of troubleshooting criteria (like say, =
SCSI cable=20
1, 2, 3, 4 or EDS 1,2,3,4 and label each part with gaff tape). If you =
come up=20
on a bad MEC, pull all expansion cards and make sure that's not biting =
you.=20
Don't forget to mark what expansion came from what slot in what MEC.=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just be methodical man, I know you'll =
find it.=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>AA</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Aaron,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm on it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>t</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"Aaron Allen" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:know-spam@not_here.dude">know-spam@not_here.dude</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
href=3D"news:469c4ccb@linux">news:469c4ccb@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Yup. Strip it ALL down to a PC =
only with=20
video card, one EDS and one MEC. Get that flying, add a second =
EDS.. pull=20
the 2nd EDS, try another, etc... do the same with MEC's and =
cables.=20
</FONT></DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>
<DIV><BR>AA</DIV>
<DIV></FONT> </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A =
href=3D"news:469c263f@linux">news:469c263f@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Intermitant success is the best =
I've got=20
right now.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I plan to install Paris on =
another comp,=20
try each EDS</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>individually and each SCSI =
cable=20
individually with the 442. If</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>all goes well or not I will =
have an=20
answer. Next, try the same in </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the actual </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>Paris rig without the Magma. If I can get=20
regular</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Paris boots there then it's the =
Magma power=20
supply</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>or Magma cable. I'm =
thinking power=20
supply. I always</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>had all 5 EDS cards showing =
even when the=20
hardware</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>attached to them =
wasn't.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Does this sound like a logical =
approach to=20
you?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm sick of chasing my =
tail.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"Aaron Allen" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:know-spam@not_here.dude">know-spam@not_here.dude</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
href=3D"news:469bfc6c@linux">news:469bfc6c@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I don't s'pose it could hurt =
if they're=20
tarnished. My experiences though with the issue your seeing =
have been=20
bad SCSI cables. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Start small, test every =
little component,=20
unless you've got a bent up input pin somewhere (and I'd light =
them=20
well and magnifying lense them all) I'm having a hard time =
buying that=20
you have 4 dead cables out of the blue though, something =
caused that=20
if it's the case. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>AA</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Aaron,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hyperthreading is =
off. I'll=20
double check though. I'd love to save the =
money</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>on those scsi =
cables.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What do you think about =
Deoxit in the=20
female scsi jacks?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This might be flogging=20
the rented and dead mule, but you did verify =
that dual=20
core was off in this equation, and hadn't been flipped =
back on by=20
a gremlin?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><BR>AA</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ya Jeff,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>At least half the times =
no C-16 was=20
attached.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Do you think that a bad =
C-16 cable=20
could cause these issues?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll remove them from =
the setup=20
until all is well.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I know at least =
a few=20
times it worked that the C-16 did also.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom </FONT></DIV>
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href=3D"mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
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Stupid=20
question, but did you ever start up without any =
c16's? =20
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=
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Well I wish I had better news. =20
The comp that was ready for action with this test has a small case so no =
go.=20
What was I thinkin? Paris cards won't fit.=20
I have a couple more to try that are large enough. One is the internet =
comp=20
that was my old Paris comp in 1999 or an AMD 3000 that has no OS at the =
moment .
It's always sumpthin.
Oh well,
Goofy Tom
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:469c64a4@linux...
Thanks Aaron. I'm moving the small stuff up to an open area with =
another comp right now.
I'll begin my madness shortly. I don't have Excel but I am wicked =
good with chisel and stone.
I'll post when something turns up to get your opinion(s).
Tom
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =
news:469c5774@linux...
Tom, you may find it useful to print out an excel trouble shooting =
chart and check off the items as you tag them good/bad. I find that =
keeping up with 'everything' on a deal like this (IE, never enough time =
to just do it all in one sitting) is just about impossible. Label each =
'part', give it a proper set of troubleshooting criteria (like say, SCSI =
cable 1, 2, 3, 4 or EDS 1,2,3,4 and label each part with gaff tape). If =
you come up on a bad MEC, pull all expansion cards and make sure that's =
not biting you. Don't forget to mark what expansion came from what slot =
in what MEC.=20
Just be methodical man, I know you'll find it.=20
AA
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:469c4fda@linux...
Aaron,
I'm on it.
t
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =
news:469c4ccb@linux...
Yup. Strip it ALL down to a PC only with video card, one EDS and =
one MEC. Get that flying, add a second EDS.. pull the 2nd EDS, try =
another, etc... do the same with MEC's and cables.=20
AA
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:469c263f@linux...
Intermitant success is the best I've got right now.
I plan to install Paris on another comp, try each EDS
individually and each SCSI cable individually with the 442. =
If
all goes well or not I will have an answer. Next, try the =
same in=20
the actual Paris rig without the Magma. If I can get regular
Paris boots there then it's the Magma power supply
or Magma cable. I'm thinking power supply. I always
had all 5 EDS cards showing even when the hardware
attached to them wasn't.
Does this sound like a logical approach to you?
I'm sick of chasing my tail.
Tom
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =
news:469bfc6c@linux...
I don't s'pose it could hurt if they're tarnished. My =
experiences though with the issue your seeing have been bad SCSI cables. =
Start small, test every little component, unless you've got =
a bent up input pin somewhere (and I'd light them well and magnifying =
lense them all) I'm having a hard time buying that you have 4 dead =
cables out of the blue though, something caused that if it's the case.=20
AA
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:469b74bf@linux...
Aaron,
Hyperthreading is off. I'll double check though. I'd =
love to save the money
on those scsi cables.
What do you think about Deoxit in the female scsi jacks?
Tom
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =
news:469aead6@linux...
This might be flogging the rented and dead mule, but you =
did verify that dual core was off in this equation, and hadn't been =
flipped back on by a gremlin?
AA
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:469ad5e8@linux...
Ya Jeff,
At least half the times no C-16 was attached.
Do you think that a bad C-16 cable could cause these =
issues?
I'll remove them from the setup until all is well.
I know at least a few times it worked that the C-16 =
did also.
Tom=20
"Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message =
news:4699b378@linux...
Tom,
Stupid question, but did you ever start up without =
any c16's? If so did=20
you see the same issue?
Jeff
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Well I wish I had better news. =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The comp that was ready for action with =
this test=20
has a </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>small case so no =
go. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What was I thinkin? Paris cards =
won't=20
fit. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have a couple more to </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>try that are large enough. </FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>One is=20
the internet comp </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>that was my old Paris comp in 1999 =
</FONT><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>or an AMD 3000 that has </FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>no OS=20
at the moment .</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It's always sumpthin.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Oh well,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Goofy Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
in message=20
<A href=3D"news:469c64a4@linux">news:469c64a4@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks Aaron. I'm moving the =
small stuff up=20
to an open area with another comp right now.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll begin my madness shortly. =
I don't have=20
Excel but I am wicked good with chisel and stone.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll post when something turns up to =
get your=20
opinion(s).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Aaron Allen" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:know-spam@not_here.dude">know-spam@not_here.dude</A>> =
wrote=20
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href=3D"news:469c5774@linux">news:469c5774@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom, you may find it useful to =
print out an=20
excel trouble shooting chart and check off the items as you tag them =
good/bad. I find that keeping up with 'everything' on a deal like =
this (IE,=20
never enough time to just do it all in one sitting) is just about=20
impossible. Label each 'part', give it a proper set of =
troubleshooting=20
criteria (like say, SCSI cable 1, 2, 3, 4 or EDS 1,2,3,4 and label =
each part=20
with gaff tape). If you come up on a bad MEC, pull all expansion =
cards and=20
make sure that's not biting you. Don't forget to mark what expansion =
came=20
from what slot in what MEC. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just be methodical man, I know =
you'll find it.=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>AA</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Aaron,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm on it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>t</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Aaron Allen" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:know-spam@not_here.dude">know-spam@not_here.dude</A>>=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Yup. Strip it ALL down to a PC =
only with=20
video card, one EDS and one MEC. Get that flying, add a second =
EDS..=20
pull the 2nd EDS, try another, etc... do the same with MEC's and =
cables.=20
</FONT></DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>
<DIV><BR>AA</DIV>
<DIV></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote in =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Intermitant success is the =
best I've got=20
right now.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I plan to install Paris on =
another comp,=20
try each EDS</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>individually and each =
SCSI cable=20
individually with the 442. If</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>all goes well or not I will =
have an=20
answer. Next, try the same in </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the actual </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>Paris rig without the Magma. If I can get=20
regular</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Paris boots there then it's =
the Magma=20
power supply</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>or Magma cable. I'm =
thinking power=20
supply. I always</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>had all 5 EDS cards showing =
even when the=20
hardware</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>attached to them =
wasn't.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Does this sound like a =
logical approach=20
to you?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm sick of chasing my =
tail.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I don't s'pose it could =
hurt if they're=20
tarnished. My experiences though with the issue your seeing =
have=20
been bad SCSI cables. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Start small, test every =
little=20
component, unless you've got a bent up input pin somewhere =
(and I'd=20
light them well and magnifying lense them all) I'm having a =
hard=20
time buying that you have 4 dead cables out of the blue =
though,=20
something caused that if it's the case. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>AA</FONT></DIV>
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href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Aaron,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hyperthreading is =
off. I'll=20
double check though. I'd love to save the =
money</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>on those scsi =
cables.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What do you think about =
Deoxit in the=20
female scsi jacks?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Aaron Allen" <<A=20
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href=3D"mailto:know-spam@not_here.dude">know-spam@not_here.dude</A>>=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This might be flogging=20
the rented and dead mule, but you did verify =
that dual=20
core was off in this equation, and hadn't been flipped =
back on=20
by a gremlin?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><BR>AA</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ya Jeff,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>At least half the =
times no C-16=20
was attached.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Do you think that a =
bad C-16=20
cable could cause these issues?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll remove them from =
the setup=20
until all is well.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I know at least =
a few=20
times it worked that the C-16 did also.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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=
href=3D"mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
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href=3D"news:4699b378@linux">news:4699b378@linux</A>...</DIV>Tom,<BR><BR>=
Stupid=20
question, but did you ever start up without any =
c16's? =20
If so did <BR>you see the same=20
=
issue?<BR><BR>Jeff<BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE ></BLOCKQUOTE></BL=
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>
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and=20
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Don't have office?=20
OK, 2 options. Go get a google email account ( http://gmail.google.com ) =
and use the online one, or go to www.openoffice.org and get open office. =
Has excel type program.=20
Both are free.
AA
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:469c64a4@linux...
Thanks Aaron. I'm moving the small stuff up to an open area with =
another comp right now.
I'll begin my madness shortly. I don't have Excel but I am wicked =
good with chisel and stone.
I'll post when something turns up to get your opinion(s).
Tom
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =
news:469c5774@linux...
Tom, you may find it useful to print out an excel trouble shooting =
chart and check off the items as you tag them good/bad. I find that =
keeping up with 'everything' on a deal like this (IE, never enough time =
to just do it all in one sitting) is just about impossible. Label each =
'part', give it a proper set of troubleshooting criteria (like say, SCSI =
cable 1, 2, 3, 4 or EDS 1,2,3,4 and label each part with gaff tape). If =
you come up on a bad MEC, pull all expansion cards and make sure that's =
not biting you. Don't forget to mark what expansion came from what slot =
in what MEC.=20
Just be methodical man, I know you'll find it.=20
AA
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:469c4fda@linux...
Aaron,
I'm on it.
t
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =
news:469c4ccb@linux...
Yup. Strip it ALL down to a PC only with video card, one EDS and =
one MEC. Get that flying, add a second EDS.. pull the 2nd EDS, try =
another, etc... do the same with MEC's and cables.=20
AA
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:469c263f@linux...
Intermitant success is the best I've got right now.
I plan to install Paris on another comp, try each EDS
individually and each SCSI cable individually with the 442. =
If
all goes well or not I will have an answer. Next, try the =
same in=20
the actual Paris rig without the Magma. If I can get regular
Paris boots there then it's the Magma power supply
or Magma cable. I'm thinking power supply. I always
had all 5 EDS cards showing even when the hardware
attached to them wasn't.
Does this sound like a logical approach to you?
I'm sick of chasing my tail.
Tom
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =
news:469bfc6c@linux...
I don't s'pose it could hurt if they're tarnished. My =
experiences though with the issue your seeing have been bad SCSI cables. =
Start small, test every little component, unless you've got =
a bent up input pin somewhere (and I'd light them well and magnifying =
lense them all) I'm having a hard time buying that you have 4 dead =
cables out of the blue though, something caused that if it's the case.=20
AA
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:469b74bf@linux...
Aaron,
Hyperthreading is off. I'll double check though. I'd =
love to save the money
on those scsi cables.
What do you think about Deoxit in the female scsi jacks?
Tom
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =
news:469aead6@linux...
This might be flogging the rented and dead mule, but you =
did verify that dual core was off in this equation, and hadn't been =
flipped back on by a gremlin?
AA
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:469ad5e8@linux...
Ya Jeff,
At least half the times no C-16 was attached.
Do you think that a bad C-16 cable could cause these =
issues?
I'll remove them from the setup until all is well.
I know at least a few times it worked that the C-16 =
did also.
Tom=20
"Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message =
news:4699b378@linux...
Tom,
Stupid question, but did you ever start up without =
any c16's? If so did=20
you see the same issue?
Jeff
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks Aaron. I'm moving the =
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to an open area with another comp right now.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll begin my madness shortly. =
I don't have=20
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get your=20
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print out an=20
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good/bad. I find that keeping up with 'everything' on a deal like =
this (IE,=20
never enough time to just do it all in one sitting) is just about=20
impossible. Label each 'part', give it a proper set of =
troubleshooting=20
criteria (like say, SCSI cable 1, 2, 3, 4 or EDS 1,2,3,4 and label =
each part=20
with gaff tape). If you come up on a bad MEC, pull all expansion =
cards and=20
make sure that's not biting you. Don't forget to mark what expansion =
came=20
from what slot in what MEC. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just be methodical man, I know =
you'll find it.=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Aaron,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm on it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>t</FONT></DIV>
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only with=20
video card, one EDS and one MEC. Get that flying, add a second =
EDS..=20
pull the 2nd EDS, try another, etc... do the same with MEC's and =
cables.=20
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<DIV><BR>AA</DIV>
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href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote in =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Intermitant success is the =
best I've got=20
right now.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I plan to install Paris on =
another comp,=20
try each EDS</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>individually and each =
SCSI cable=20
individually with the 442. If</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>all goes well or not I will =
have an=20
answer. Next, try the same in </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the actual </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>Paris rig without the Magma. If I can get=20
regular</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Paris boots there then it's =
the Magma=20
power supply</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>or Magma cable. I'm =
thinking power=20
supply. I always</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>had all 5 EDS cards showing =
even when the=20
hardware</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>attached to them =
wasn't.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Does this sound like a =
logical approach=20
to you?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm sick of chasing my =
tail.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I don't s'pose it could =
hurt if they're=20
tarnished. My experiences though with the issue your seeing =
have=20
been bad SCSI cables. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Start small, test every =
little=20
component, unless you've got a bent up input pin somewhere =
(and I'd=20
light them well and magnifying lense them all) I'm having a =
hard=20
time buying that you have 4 dead cables out of the blue =
though,=20
something caused that if it's the case. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>AA</FONT></DIV>
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=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Aaron,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hyperthreading is =
off. I'll=20
double check though. I'd love to save the =
money</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>on those scsi =
cables.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What do you think about =
Deoxit in the=20
female scsi jacks?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This might be flogging=20
the rented and dead mule, but you did verify =
that dual=20
core was off in this equation, and hadn't been flipped =
back on=20
by a gremlin?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><BR>AA</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ya Jeff,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>At least half the =
times no C-16=20
was attached.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Do you think that a =
bad C-16=20
cable could cause these issues?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll remove them from =
the setup=20
until all is well.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I know at least =
a few=20
times it worked that the C-16 did also.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom </FONT></DIV>
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href=3D"mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
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href=3D"news:4699b378@linux">news:4699b378@linux</A>...</DIV>Tom,<BR><BR>=
Stupid=20
question, but did you ever start up without any =
c16's? =20
If so did <BR>you see the same=20
=
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