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A MADI system doesn't have enough I/O for my needs but it's a real PITA =
tracking using6 separate RME cards on two different computers because =
the drivers do not allow the cards to sum to one card. I've been racking =
my brain trying to figure out a way to get the I/O I need here to sum =
into a single pair of outputs by physically routing them.
Computer #1 (slave system)
RME HDSP 9632:
ADAT I/O > Frontier Apache I/O 1 (Sending VSTi audio to master DAW)
HDSP 9632 Spdif out > RME Multiface Spdif in
RME Multiface=20
ADAT I/O > Frontier Apache I/O 2 (Sending VSTi audio to master DAW )
Multiface Spdif out > RME HDSP 9652 Spdif in on master DAW
Computer #2 (Master system)
RME HDSP 9652 #1
ADAT I/O 1 > #1 RME ADI8-DS Main
ADAT I/O 2 > #1 RME ADI8-DS Aux
ADAT I/O 3> ADI4-DD (connected to AES I/O of Quantec Yardstick, Lexicon =
PCM-91, Roland R-880 and Sony V-77)
RME HDSP 9652 #1 Spdif out > RME HDSP 9652 #2 Spdif in
RME HDSP 9652 #2
ADAT I/O 1 >#2 RME ADI8-DS Main
ADAT I/O 2 >#2 RME ADI8-DS-Aux
ADAT I/O 3> Frontier Apache I/O 3 (receiving VSTi audio from slave DAW)
RME HDSP 9652 #2 Spdif out > RME HDSP 9652 #3 Spdif in
RME HDSP 9652 #3
ADAT I/O 1 > RME ADI8-DD Main (connected to AES of Mytek Stereo AD/DA, =
POD Pro XT, TC D-2, DAT machine=20
ADAT I/O 2 > RME ADI8-DD Aux " " =
" " "
ADAT I/O 3 > Frontier Apache I/O 4 (receiving VSTi audio from slave DAW)
RME HDSP 9652 #3 Spdif out > Benchmark DAC-1
This way I would have 16 channels of ADAT streaming from the slave =
(sampler) to the Master DAW patched through the Apache and other digital =
devices I have here would be patched into the Apache points 5-12 and =
could then be interfaced with either DAW as needed for utility purposes.
This would hopefully be a workaround of the "separate card" limitation =
in Totalmix and allow me to route the various channels of each card to =
it's Spdif out and then cascade the spdif outputs to the spdif inputs of =
each successive card with them all cumulating in card #3 of the Master =
DAW.
I "think" this should work as long as the all cards are properly clocked =
and the master and slave DAWs are set to the same buffers and synced up =
using Systemlink.
Anyone have any thoughts on this before I start tearing my current =
routing matrix apart?
Thanks,
Deej
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A MADI system doesn't have enough I/O =
for my needs=20
but it's a real PITA tracking using6 separate RME cards on two different =
computers because the drivers do not allow the cards to sum to one card. =
I've=20
been racking my brain trying to figure out a way to get the I/O I need =
here to=20
sum into a single pair of outputs by physically routing =
them.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Computer #1 (slave system)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>RME HDSP 9632:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O > Frontier Apache I/O 1 =
(Sending VSTi=20
audio to master DAW)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>HDSP 9632 Spdif out > RME =
Multiface=20
Spdif in</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG></STRONG></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>RME Multiface </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O > Frontier Apache I/O 2 =
(Sending VSTi=20
audio to master DAW )</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>Multiface Spdif out > RME =
HDSP 9652=20
Spdif in on master DAW</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Computer #2 (Master =
system)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>RME HDSP 9652 #1</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O 1 > #1 RME ADI8-DS =
Main</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O 2 > #1 RME ADI8-DS=20
Aux</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O 3> ADI4-DD (connected to =
AES I/O of=20
Quantec Yardstick, Lexicon PCM-91, Roland R-880 and Sony =
V-77)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>RME HDSP 9652 #1 Spdif out > =
RME HDSP=20
9652 #2 Spdif in</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG></STRONG></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>RME HDSP 9652 #2</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O 1 >#2 RME ADI8-DS =
Main</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O 2 >#2 RME =
ADI8-DS-Aux</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O 3> Frontier Apache I/O 3=20
(receiving VSTi audio from slave DAW)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>RME HDSP 9652 #2 Spdif out > =
RME HDSP=20
9652 #3 Spdif in</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>RME HDSP 9652 #3<BR>ADAT I/O 1 =
> RME=20
ADI8-DD Main (connected to AES of Mytek Stereo AD/DA, POD Pro XT, TC =
D-2, DAT=20
machine </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O 2 > RME ADI8-DD =
Aux =20
" =
=20
" =
=20
=
" =20
=
" =20
"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O 3 > Frontier Apache I/O 4 =
(receiving=20
VSTi audio from slave DAW)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>RME HDSP 9652 #3 Spdif out > =
Benchmark=20
DAC-1</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This way I would have 16 channels of =
ADAT streaming=20
from the slave (sampler) to the Master DAW patched through the Apache =
and other=20
digital devices I have here would be patched into the Apache points 5-12 =
and=20
could then be interfaced with either DAW as needed for utility=20
purposes.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This would hopefully be a workaround of =
the=20
"separate card" limitation in Totalmix and allow me to route the various =
channels of each card to it's Spdif out and then cascade the spdif =
outputs to=20
the spdif inputs of each successive card with them all cumulating =
in card=20
#3 of the Master DAW.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I "think" this should work as long as =
the all cards=20
are properly clocked and the master and slave DAWs are set to the same =
buffers=20
and synced up using Systemlink.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Anyone have any thoughts on this before =
I start=20
tearing my current routing matrix apart?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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| Re: RME routing question [message #89535 is a reply to message #89534] |
Sun, 09 September 2007 01:23  |
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sorry.....I meant 5 RME cards
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message =
news:46e3aebd@linux...
A MADI system doesn't have enough I/O for my needs but it's a real =
PITA tracking using6 separate RME cards on two different computers =
because the drivers do not allow the cards to sum to one card. I've been =
racking my brain trying to figure out a way to get the I/O I need here =
to sum into a single pair of outputs by physically routing them.
Computer #1 (slave system)
RME HDSP 9632:
ADAT I/O > Frontier Apache I/O 1 (Sending VSTi audio to master DAW)
HDSP 9632 Spdif out > RME Multiface Spdif in
RME Multiface=20
ADAT I/O > Frontier Apache I/O 2 (Sending VSTi audio to master DAW )
Multiface Spdif out > RME HDSP 9652 Spdif in on master DAW
Computer #2 (Master system)
RME HDSP 9652 #1
ADAT I/O 1 > #1 RME ADI8-DS Main
ADAT I/O 2 > #1 RME ADI8-DS Aux
ADAT I/O 3> ADI4-DD (connected to AES I/O of Quantec Yardstick, =
Lexicon PCM-91, Roland R-880 and Sony V-77)
RME HDSP 9652 #1 Spdif out > RME HDSP 9652 #2 Spdif in
RME HDSP 9652 #2
ADAT I/O 1 >#2 RME ADI8-DS Main
ADAT I/O 2 >#2 RME ADI8-DS-Aux
ADAT I/O 3> Frontier Apache I/O 3 (receiving VSTi audio from slave =
DAW)
RME HDSP 9652 #2 Spdif out > RME HDSP 9652 #3 Spdif in
RME HDSP 9652 #3
ADAT I/O 1 > RME ADI8-DD Main (connected to AES of Mytek Stereo AD/DA, =
POD Pro XT, TC D-2, DAT machine=20
ADAT I/O 2 > RME ADI8-DD Aux " " =
" " "
ADAT I/O 3 > Frontier Apache I/O 4 (receiving VSTi audio from slave =
DAW)
RME HDSP 9652 #3 Spdif out > Benchmark DAC-1
This way I would have 16 channels of ADAT streaming from the slave =
(sampler) to the Master DAW patched through the Apache and other digital =
devices I have here would be patched into the Apache points 5-12 and =
could then be interfaced with either DAW as needed for utility purposes.
This would hopefully be a workaround of the "separate card" limitation =
in Totalmix and allow me to route the various channels of each card to =
it's Spdif out and then cascade the spdif outputs to the spdif inputs of =
each successive card with them all cumulating in card #3 of the Master =
DAW.
I "think" this should work as long as the all cards are properly =
clocked and the master and slave DAWs are set to the same buffers and =
synced up using Systemlink.
Anyone have any thoughts on this before I start tearing my current =
routing matrix apart?
Thanks,
Deej
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>sorry.....I meant 5 RME =
cards</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message <A =
href=3D"news:46e3aebd@linux">news:46e3aebd@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A MADI system doesn't have enough I/O =
for my=20
needs but it's a real PITA tracking using6 separate RME cards on two =
different=20
computers because the drivers do not allow the cards to sum to one =
card. I've=20
been racking my brain trying to figure out a way to get the I/O I need =
here to=20
sum into a single pair of outputs by physically routing =
them.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Computer #1 (slave =
system)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>RME HDSP 9632:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O > Frontier Apache I/O 1 =
(Sending VSTi=20
audio to master DAW)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>HDSP 9632 Spdif out > RME =
Multiface=20
Spdif in</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG></STRONG></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>RME Multiface </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O > Frontier Apache I/O 2 =
(Sending VSTi=20
audio to master DAW )</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>Multiface Spdif out > RME =
HDSP 9652=20
Spdif in on master DAW</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Computer #2 (Master =
system)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>RME HDSP 9652 #1</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O 1 > #1 RME ADI8-DS =
Main</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O 2 > #1 RME ADI8-DS=20
Aux</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O 3> ADI4-DD (connected to =
AES I/O of=20
Quantec Yardstick, Lexicon PCM-91, Roland R-880 and Sony =
V-77)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>RME HDSP 9652 #1 Spdif out =
> RME HDSP=20
9652 #2 Spdif in</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG></STRONG></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>RME HDSP 9652 #2</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O 1 >#2 RME ADI8-DS =
Main</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O 2 >#2 RME =
ADI8-DS-Aux</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O 3> Frontier Apache I/O 3=20
(receiving VSTi audio from slave DAW)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>RME HDSP 9652 #2 Spdif out =
> RME HDSP=20
9652 #3 Spdif in</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>RME HDSP 9652 #3<BR>ADAT I/O 1 =
> RME=20
ADI8-DD Main (connected to AES of Mytek Stereo AD/DA, POD Pro XT, TC =
D-2, DAT=20
machine </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O 2 > RME ADI8-DD =
Aux =20
" =
=20
" =
=20
=
" =20
=
" =20
=
"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O 3 > Frontier Apache I/O 4 =
(receiving=20
VSTi audio from slave DAW)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>RME HDSP 9652 #3 Spdif out =
> Benchmark=20
DAC-1</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This way I would have 16 channels of =
ADAT=20
streaming from the slave (sampler) to the Master DAW patched through =
the=20
Apache and other digital devices I have here would be patched into the =
Apache=20
points 5-12 and could then be interfaced with either DAW as needed for =
utility=20
purposes.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This would hopefully be a workaround =
of the=20
"separate card" limitation in Totalmix and allow me to route the =
various=20
channels of each card to it's Spdif out and then cascade the spdif =
outputs to=20
the spdif inputs of each successive card with them all cumulating =
in card=20
#3 of the Master DAW.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I "think" this should work as long as =
the all=20
cards are properly clocked and the master and slave DAWs are set to =
the same=20
buffers and synced up using Systemlink.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Anyone have any thoughts on this =
before I start=20
tearing my current routing matrix apart?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
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Sun, 09 September 2007 01:44 |
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Oy!!!...I'm braindead here. If this works, I won't need to patch ADAT =
outs from the slave to ADAT ins on the master since I'm running cubase =
on both systems and so everything will be cumulatively summed through =
the spdif I/O of the various cards to the spdif output on the master =
DAW. I can sell my Apache, get another ADI4 DD and have enough =
additional AES and ADAT I/O to just route everything through the DAW and =
Totalmix software.
time to sleep......sleeeeeepppp
;o}
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message =
news:46e3aefa@linux...
sorry.....I meant 5 RME cards
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message =
news:46e3aebd@linux...
A MADI system doesn't have enough I/O for my needs but it's a real =
PITA tracking using6 separate RME cards on two different computers =
because the drivers do not allow the cards to sum to one card. I've been =
racking my brain trying to figure out a way to get the I/O I need here =
to sum into a single pair of outputs by physically routing them.
Computer #1 (slave system)
RME HDSP 9632:
ADAT I/O > Frontier Apache I/O 1 (Sending VSTi audio to master DAW)
HDSP 9632 Spdif out > RME Multiface Spdif in
RME Multiface=20
ADAT I/O > Frontier Apache I/O 2 (Sending VSTi audio to master DAW )
Multiface Spdif out > RME HDSP 9652 Spdif in on master DAW
Computer #2 (Master system)
RME HDSP 9652 #1
ADAT I/O 1 > #1 RME ADI8-DS Main
ADAT I/O 2 > #1 RME ADI8-DS Aux
ADAT I/O 3> ADI4-DD (connected to AES I/O of Quantec Yardstick, =
Lexicon PCM-91, Roland R-880 and Sony V-77)
RME HDSP 9652 #1 Spdif out > RME HDSP 9652 #2 Spdif in
RME HDSP 9652 #2
ADAT I/O 1 >#2 RME ADI8-DS Main
ADAT I/O 2 >#2 RME ADI8-DS-Aux
ADAT I/O 3> Frontier Apache I/O 3 (receiving VSTi audio from slave =
DAW)
RME HDSP 9652 #2 Spdif out > RME HDSP 9652 #3 Spdif in
RME HDSP 9652 #3
ADAT I/O 1 > RME ADI8-DD Main (connected to AES of Mytek Stereo =
AD/DA, POD Pro XT, TC D-2, DAT machine=20
ADAT I/O 2 > RME ADI8-DD Aux " " =
" " "
ADAT I/O 3 > Frontier Apache I/O 4 (receiving VSTi audio from slave =
DAW)
RME HDSP 9652 #3 Spdif out > Benchmark DAC-1
This way I would have 16 channels of ADAT streaming from the slave =
(sampler) to the Master DAW patched through the Apache and other digital =
devices I have here would be patched into the Apache points 5-12 and =
could then be interfaced with either DAW as needed for utility purposes.
This would hopefully be a workaround of the "separate card" =
limitation in Totalmix and allow me to route the various channels of =
each card to it's Spdif out and then cascade the spdif outputs to the =
spdif inputs of each successive card with them all cumulating in card #3 =
of the Master DAW.
I "think" this should work as long as the all cards are properly =
clocked and the master and slave DAWs are set to the same buffers and =
synced up using Systemlink.
Anyone have any thoughts on this before I start tearing my current =
routing matrix apart?
Thanks,
Deej
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Oy!!!...I'm braindead here. If this =
works, I won't=20
need to patch ADAT outs from the slave to ADAT ins on the master since =
I'm=20
running cubase on both systems and so everything will be cumulatively =
summed=20
through the spdif I/O of the various cards to the spdif output on the =
master=20
DAW. I can sell my Apache, get another ADI4 DD and have enough =
additional AES=20
and ADAT I/O to just route everything through the DAW and Totalmix=20
software.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>time to =
sleep......sleeeeeepppp</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>;o}</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message <A =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>sorry.....I meant 5 RME =
cards</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A MADI system doesn't have enough =
I/O for my=20
needs but it's a real PITA tracking using6 separate RME cards on two =
different computers because the drivers do not allow the cards to =
sum to one=20
card. I've been racking my brain trying to figure out a way to get =
the I/O I=20
need here to sum into a single pair of outputs by physically routing =
them.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Computer #1 (slave =
system)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>RME HDSP 9632:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O > Frontier Apache I/O 1 =
(Sending=20
VSTi audio to master DAW)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>HDSP 9632 Spdif out > =
RME Multiface=20
Spdif in</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><STRONG></STRONG></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>RME Multiface </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O > Frontier Apache I/O 2 =
(Sending=20
VSTi audio to master DAW )</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>Multiface Spdif out > =
RME HDSP 9652=20
Spdif in on master DAW</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Computer #2 (Master =
system)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>RME HDSP 9652 #1</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O 1 > #1 RME ADI8-DS=20
Main</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O 2 > #1 RME ADI8-DS =
Aux</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O 3> ADI4-DD (connected =
to AES I/O of=20
Quantec Yardstick, Lexicon PCM-91, Roland R-880 and Sony =
V-77)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>RME HDSP 9652 #1 Spdif out =
> RME=20
HDSP 9652 #2 Spdif in</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><STRONG></STRONG></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>RME HDSP 9652 #2</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O 1 >#2 RME ADI8-DS =
Main</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O 2 >#2 RME =
ADI8-DS-Aux</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O 3> Frontier Apache I/O =
3=20
(receiving VSTi audio from slave DAW)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>RME HDSP 9652 #2 Spdif out =
> RME=20
HDSP 9652 #3 Spdif in</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>RME HDSP 9652 #3<BR>ADAT I/O 1 =
> RME=20
ADI8-DD Main (connected to AES of Mytek Stereo AD/DA, POD Pro XT, TC =
D-2,=20
DAT machine </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O 2 > RME ADI8-DD=20
Aux " =20
=
=20
" =
=20
" =
=20
" =
=20
"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O 3 > Frontier Apache I/O =
4=20
(receiving VSTi audio from slave DAW)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>RME HDSP 9652 #3 Spdif out =
>=20
Benchmark DAC-1</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This way I would have 16 channels =
of ADAT=20
streaming from the slave (sampler) to the Master DAW patched through =
the=20
Apache and other digital devices I have here would be patched into =
the=20
Apache points 5-12 and could then be interfaced with either DAW as =
needed=20
for utility purposes.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This would hopefully be a =
workaround of the=20
"separate card" limitation in Totalmix and allow me to route the =
various=20
channels of each card to it's Spdif out and then cascade the spdif =
outputs=20
to the spdif inputs of each successive card with them all =
cumulating in=20
card #3 of the Master DAW.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I "think" this should work as long =
as the all=20
cards are properly clocked and the master and slave DAWs are set to =
the same=20
buffers and synced up using Systemlink.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Anyone have any thoughts on this =
before I start=20
tearing my current routing matrix apart?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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| Re: RME routing question [message #89616 is a reply to message #89534] |
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Hehehe!!!!!!!!........IT WORKS!!!!! I have defeated the card limitations =
by cascading 4 x RME cards (a Multiface on a slave DAW and 3 HDSP 9652's =
on the master DAW) by cascading the SPDIF out of one card to SPDIF of =
the next. This gives me 72 ADAT I/O on 3 HDSP cards in the Master DAW =
and a Multiface on the slave DAW, but all cards are talking to each =
other, just like TotalMix functions on a MADI card. Since it's all =
digital and all cards are set to the same buffer settings and sync'ed to =
the same clock, I'm not hearing any phasing between the cards, even =
between the card on the slave and master DAW.
Nyuk..nyuk...nyuk..........now if I could just figure out WTF I'm doing
;o)
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message =
news:46e3aebd@linux...
A MADI system doesn't have enough I/O for my needs but it's a real =
PITA tracking using6 separate RME cards on two different computers =
because the drivers do not allow the cards to sum to one card. I've been =
racking my brain trying to figure out a way to get the I/O I need here =
to sum into a single pair of outputs by physically routing them.
Computer #1 (slave system)
RME HDSP 9632:
ADAT I/O > Frontier Apache I/O 1 (Sending VSTi audio to master DAW)
HDSP 9632 Spdif out > RME Multiface Spdif in
RME Multiface=20
ADAT I/O > Frontier Apache I/O 2 (Sending VSTi audio to master DAW )
Multiface Spdif out > RME HDSP 9652 Spdif in on master DAW
Computer #2 (Master system)
RME HDSP 9652 #1
ADAT I/O 1 > #1 RME ADI8-DS Main
ADAT I/O 2 > #1 RME ADI8-DS Aux
ADAT I/O 3> ADI4-DD (connected to AES I/O of Quantec Yardstick, =
Lexicon PCM-91, Roland R-880 and Sony V-77)
RME HDSP 9652 #1 Spdif out > RME HDSP 9652 #2 Spdif in
RME HDSP 9652 #2
ADAT I/O 1 >#2 RME ADI8-DS Main
ADAT I/O 2 >#2 RME ADI8-DS-Aux
ADAT I/O 3> Frontier Apache I/O 3 (receiving VSTi audio from slave =
DAW)
RME HDSP 9652 #2 Spdif out > RME HDSP 9652 #3 Spdif in
RME HDSP 9652 #3
ADAT I/O 1 > RME ADI8-DD Main (connected to AES of Mytek Stereo AD/DA, =
POD Pro XT, TC D-2, DAT machine=20
ADAT I/O 2 > RME ADI8-DD Aux " " =
" " "
ADAT I/O 3 > Frontier Apache I/O 4 (receiving VSTi audio from slave =
DAW)
RME HDSP 9652 #3 Spdif out > Benchmark DAC-1
This way I would have 16 channels of ADAT streaming from the slave =
(sampler) to the Master DAW patched through the Apache and other digital =
devices I have here would be patched into the Apache points 5-12 and =
could then be interfaced with either DAW as needed for utility purposes.
This would hopefully be a workaround of the "separate card" limitation =
in Totalmix and allow me to route the various channels of each card to =
it's Spdif out and then cascade the spdif outputs to the spdif inputs of =
each successive card with them all cumulating in card #3 of the Master =
DAW.
I "think" this should work as long as the all cards are properly =
clocked and the master and slave DAWs are set to the same buffers and =
synced up using Systemlink.
Anyone have any thoughts on this before I start tearing my current =
routing matrix apart?
Thanks,
Deej
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hehehe!!!!!!!!........IT WORKS!!!!! I =
have defeated=20
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slave DAW=20
and 3 HDSP 9652's on the master DAW) by cascading the SPDIF out of one =
card to=20
SPDIF of the next. This gives me 72 ADAT I/O on 3 HDSP cards =
in the=20
Master DAW and a Multiface on the slave DAW, but all cards are =
talking to=20
each other, just like TotalMix functions on a MADI card. Since it's all =
digital=20
and all cards are set to the same buffer settings and sync'ed to the =
same clock,=20
I'm not hearing any phasing between the cards, even between the card on =
the=20
slave and master DAW.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Nyuk..nyuk...nyuk..........now if I =
could just=20
figure out WTF I'm doing</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>;o)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message <A=20
href=3D"news:46e3aebd@linux">news:46e3aebd@linux</A>...</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A MADI system doesn't have enough I/O =
for my=20
needs but it's a real PITA tracking using6 separate RME cards on two =
different=20
computers because the drivers do not allow the cards to sum to one =
card. I've=20
been racking my brain trying to figure out a way to get the I/O I need =
here to=20
sum into a single pair of outputs by physically routing =
them.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Computer #1 (slave =
system)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>RME HDSP 9632:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O > Frontier Apache I/O 1 =
(Sending VSTi=20
audio to master DAW)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>HDSP 9632 Spdif out > RME =
Multiface=20
Spdif in</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG></STRONG></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>RME Multiface </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O > Frontier Apache I/O 2 =
(Sending VSTi=20
audio to master DAW )</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>Multiface Spdif out > RME =
HDSP 9652=20
Spdif in on master DAW</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Computer #2 (Master =
system)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>RME HDSP 9652 #1</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O 1 > #1 RME ADI8-DS =
Main</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O 2 > #1 RME ADI8-DS=20
Aux</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O 3> ADI4-DD (connected to =
AES I/O of=20
Quantec Yardstick, Lexicon PCM-91, Roland R-880 and Sony =
V-77)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>RME HDSP 9652 #1 Spdif out =
> RME HDSP=20
9652 #2 Spdif in</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG></STRONG></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>RME HDSP 9652 #2</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O 1 >#2 RME ADI8-DS =
Main</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O 2 >#2 RME =
ADI8-DS-Aux</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O 3> Frontier Apache I/O 3=20
(receiving VSTi audio from slave DAW)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>RME HDSP 9652 #2 Spdif out =
> RME HDSP=20
9652 #3 Spdif in</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>RME HDSP 9652 #3<BR>ADAT I/O 1 =
> RME=20
ADI8-DD Main (connected to AES of Mytek Stereo AD/DA, POD Pro XT, TC =
D-2, DAT=20
machine </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O 2 > RME ADI8-DD =
Aux =20
" =
=20
" =
=20
=
" =20
=
" =20
=
"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O 3 > Frontier Apache I/O 4 =
(receiving=20
VSTi audio from slave DAW)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>RME HDSP 9652 #3 Spdif out =
> Benchmark=20
DAC-1</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This way I would have 16 channels of =
ADAT=20
streaming from the slave (sampler) to the Master DAW patched through =
the=20
Apache and other digital devices I have here would be patched into the =
Apache=20
points 5-12 and could then be interfaced with either DAW as needed for =
utility=20
purposes.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This would hopefully be a workaround =
of the=20
"separate card" limitation in Totalmix and allow me to route the =
various=20
channels of each card to it's Spdif out and then cascade the spdif =
outputs to=20
the spdif inputs of each successive card with them all cumulating =
in card=20
#3 of the Master DAW.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I "think" this should work as long as =
the all=20
cards are properly clocked and the master and slave DAWs are set to =
the same=20
buffers and synced up using Systemlink.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Anyone have any thoughts on this =
before I start=20
tearing my current routing matrix apart?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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| Re: RME routing question [message #89620 is a reply to message #89616] |
Tue, 11 September 2007 19:11 |
Neil
Messages: 1645
Registered: April 2006
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You & I talked about this one the phone one time a few months
ago - it took you this long to try it? WTF do you have a list
of "Shit to try when I get around to it" or something? lol
Neil
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>
>
>Hehehe!!!!!!!!........IT WORKS!!!!! I have defeated the card limitations
=
>by cascading 4 x RME cards (a Multiface on a slave DAW and 3 HDSP 9652's
=
>on the master DAW) by cascading the SPDIF out of one card to SPDIF of =
>the next. This gives me 72 ADAT I/O on 3 HDSP cards in the Master DAW =
>and a Multiface on the slave DAW, but all cards are talking to each =
>other, just like TotalMix functions on a MADI card. Since it's all =
>digital and all cards are set to the same buffer settings and sync'ed to
=
>the same clock, I'm not hearing any phasing between the cards, even =
>between the card on the slave and master DAW.
>
>Nyuk..nyuk...nyuk..........now if I could just figure out WTF I'm doing
>
>;o)
>
>
>
>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message =
>news:46e3aebd@linux...
> A MADI system doesn't have enough I/O for my needs but it's a real =
>PITA tracking using6 separate RME cards on two different computers =
>because the drivers do not allow the cards to sum to one card. I've been
=
>racking my brain trying to figure out a way to get the I/O I need here =
>to sum into a single pair of outputs by physically routing them.
>
> Computer #1 (slave system)
>
> RME HDSP 9632:
> ADAT I/O > Frontier Apache I/O 1 (Sending VSTi audio to master DAW)
> HDSP 9632 Spdif out > RME Multiface Spdif in
>
> RME Multiface=20
> ADAT I/O > Frontier Apache I/O 2 (Sending VSTi audio to master DAW )
> Multiface Spdif out > RME HDSP 9652 Spdif in on master DAW
>
> Computer #2 (Master system)
>
> RME HDSP 9652 #1
> ADAT I/O 1 > #1 RME ADI8-DS Main
> ADAT I/O 2 > #1 RME ADI8-DS Aux
> ADAT I/O 3> ADI4-DD (connected to AES I/O of Quantec Yardstick, =
>Lexicon PCM-91, Roland R-880 and Sony V-77)
> RME HDSP 9652 #1 Spdif out > RME HDSP 9652 #2 Spdif in
>
> RME HDSP 9652 #2
> ADAT I/O 1 >#2 RME ADI8-DS Main
> ADAT I/O 2 >#2 RME ADI8-DS-Aux
> ADAT I/O 3> Frontier Apache I/O 3 (receiving VSTi audio from slave =
>DAW)
> RME HDSP 9652 #2 Spdif out > RME HDSP 9652 #3 Spdif in
>
> RME HDSP 9652 #3
> ADAT I/O 1 > RME ADI8-DD Main (connected to AES of Mytek Stereo AD/DA,
=
>POD Pro XT, TC D-2, DAT machine=20
> ADAT I/O 2 > RME ADI8-DD Aux " "
=
> " " "
> ADAT I/O 3 > Frontier Apache I/O 4 (receiving VSTi audio from slave =
>DAW)
> RME HDSP 9652 #3 Spdif out > Benchmark DAC-1
>
> This way I would have 16 channels of ADAT streaming from the slave =
>(sampler) to the Master DAW patched through the Apache and other digital
=
>devices I have here would be patched into the Apache points 5-12 and =
>could then be interfaced with either DAW as needed for utility purposes.
>
> This would hopefully be a workaround of the "separate card" limitation
=
>in Totalmix and allow me to route the various channels of each card to =
>it's Spdif out and then cascade the spdif outputs to the spdif inputs of
=
>each successive card with them all cumulating in card #3 of the Master =
>DAW.
>
> I "think" this should work as long as the all cards are properly =
>clocked and the master and slave DAWs are set to the same buffers and =
>synced up using Systemlink.
>
> Anyone have any thoughts on this before I start tearing my current =
>routing matrix apart?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Deej
>
>
>
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hehehe!!!!!!!!........IT WORKS!!!!! I =
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>slave DAW=20
>and 3 HDSP 9652's on the master DAW) by cascading the SPDIF out of one =
>card to=20
>SPDIF of the next. This gives me 72 ADAT I/O on 3 HDSP cards =
>in the=20
>Master DAW and a Multiface on the slave DAW, but all cards are =
>talking to=20
>each other, just like TotalMix functions on a MADI card. Since it's all
=
>digital=20
>and all cards are set to the same buffer settings and sync'ed to the =
>same clock,=20
>I'm not hearing any phasing between the cards, even between the card on
=
>the=20
>slave and master DAW.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Nyuk..nyuk...nyuk..........now if I =
>could just=20
>figure out WTF I'm doing</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>;o)</FONT></DIV>
><DIV> </DIV>
><DIV> </DIV>
><DIV> </DIV>
><DIV>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message <A=20
>href=3D"news:46e3aebd@linux">news:46e3aebd@linux</A>...</DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
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> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A MADI system doesn't have enough I/O
=
>for my=20
> needs but it's a real PITA tracking using6 separate RME cards on two =
>different=20
> computers because the drivers do not allow the cards to sum to one =
>card. I've=20
> been racking my brain trying to figure out a way to get the I/O I need
=
>here to=20
> sum into a single pair of outputs by physically routing =
>them.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Computer #1 (slave =
>system)</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>RME HDSP 9632:</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O > Frontier Apache I/O 1 =
>(Sending VSTi=20
> audio to master DAW)</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>HDSP 9632 Spdif out > RME =
>Multiface=20
> Spdif in</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG></STRONG></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>RME Multiface </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O > Frontier Apache I/O 2 =
>(Sending VSTi=20
> audio to master DAW )</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>Multiface Spdif out > RME =
>HDSP 9652=20
> Spdif in on master DAW</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Computer #2 (Master =
>system)</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>RME HDSP 9652 #1</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O 1 > #1 RME ADI8-DS =
>Main</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O 2 > #1 RME ADI8-DS=20
> Aux</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O 3> ADI4-DD (connected to =
>AES I/O of=20
> Quantec Yardstick, Lexicon PCM-91, Roland R-880 and Sony =
>V-77)</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>RME HDSP 9652 #1 Spdif out =
>> RME HDSP=20
> 9652 #2 Spdif in</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG></STRONG></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>RME HDSP 9652 #2</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O 1 >#2 RME ADI8-DS =
>Main</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O 2 >#2 RME =
>ADI8-DS-Aux</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O 3> Frontier Apache I/O 3=20
> (receiving VSTi audio from slave DAW)</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>RME HDSP 9652 #2 Spdif out =
>> RME HDSP=20
> 9652 #3 Spdif in</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>RME HDSP 9652 #3<BR>ADAT I/O 1 =
>> RME=20
> ADI8-DD Main (connected to AES of Mytek Stereo AD/DA, POD Pro XT, TC =
>D-2, DAT=20
> machine </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O 2 > RME ADI8-DD =
>Aux =20
> " =
> =20
> " =
> =20
> =
>" =20
> =
>" =20
> =
>"</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O 3 > Frontier Apache I/O 4 =
>(receiving=20
> VSTi audio from slave DAW)</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>RME HDSP 9652 #3 Spdif out =
>> Benchmark=20
> DAC-1</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This way I would have 16 channels of
=
>ADAT=20
> streaming from the slave (sampler) to the Master DAW patched through =
>the=20
> Apache and other digital devices I have here would be patched into the
=
>Apache=20
> points 5-12 and could then be interfaced with either DAW as needed for
=
>utility=20
> purposes.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This would hopefully be a workaround
=
>of the=20
> "separate card" limitation in Totalmix and allow me to route the =
>various=20
> channels of each card to it's Spdif out and then cascade the spdif =
>outputs to=20
> the spdif inputs of each successive card with them all cumulating =
>in card=20
> #3 of the Master DAW.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I "think" this should work as long as
=
>the all=20
> cards are properly clocked and the master and slave DAWs are set to =
>the same=20
> buffers and synced up using Systemlink.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Anyone have any thoughts on this =
>before I start=20
> tearing my current routing matrix apart?</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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| Re: RME routing question [message #89624 is a reply to message #89620] |
Tue, 11 September 2007 19:35 |
DJ
Messages: 1124
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I just want my RME system to work like one big audio card instead of 4
separate ones. the Driver doesn't allow audio that is being recorded on one
card to be heard at the output of another
card...............unless...........you;'ve got the cards cascaded like I'm
doing. this way you can assign all channels on each card to the SPDIf out of
each card and physically patch the output of that card to input of the next
one and so on until you finally reach the SPDIF out of the last card which
is routed to your Mains. What's really cool about this is that I'm doing it
across two computers, one of which is running Cubase Sx 3 and the other
running Cubase 4. I've got a folder set up on the audio drive of the Master
DAW with a parallel Project in SX 3 so I can systemlink projects between the
two DAWs running different versions of the software and stream the
respective audio files from the master audio drive via Gigabit ethernet. As
long as the SX3 files are kept separate from the Cubase 4 files, everything
works great. I really don't think you are supposed to be able to do this
with Cubase. Isn't this some kind of exclusive Nuendo "feature"?...Well,
nonetheless, I'm doing it.
;o)
"Neil" <IUOI@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46e74ad9$1@linux...
>
> You & I talked about this one the phone one time a few months
> ago - it took you this long to try it? WTF do you have a list
> of "Shit to try when I get around to it" or something? lol
>
> Neil
>
>
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Hehehe!!!!!!!!........IT WORKS!!!!! I have defeated the card limitations
> =
>>by cascading 4 x RME cards (a Multiface on a slave DAW and 3 HDSP 9652's
> =
>>on the master DAW) by cascading the SPDIF out of one card to SPDIF of =
>>the next. This gives me 72 ADAT I/O on 3 HDSP cards in the Master DAW =
>>and a Multiface on the slave DAW, but all cards are talking to each =
>>other, just like TotalMix functions on a MADI card. Since it's all =
>>digital and all cards are set to the same buffer settings and sync'ed to
> =
>>the same clock, I'm not hearing any phasing between the cards, even =
>>between the card on the slave and master DAW.
>>
>>Nyuk..nyuk...nyuk..........now if I could just figure out WTF I'm doing
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>
>>
>>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message =
>>news:46e3aebd@linux...
>> A MADI system doesn't have enough I/O for my needs but it's a real =
>>PITA tracking using6 separate RME cards on two different computers =
>>because the drivers do not allow the cards to sum to one card. I've been
> =
>>racking my brain trying to figure out a way to get the I/O I need here =
>>to sum into a single pair of outputs by physically routing them.
>>
>> Computer #1 (slave system)
>>
>> RME HDSP 9632:
>> ADAT I/O > Frontier Apache I/O 1 (Sending VSTi audio to master DAW)
>> HDSP 9632 Spdif out > RME Multiface Spdif in
>>
>> RME Multiface=20
>> ADAT I/O > Frontier Apache I/O 2 (Sending VSTi audio to master DAW )
>> Multiface Spdif out > RME HDSP 9652 Spdif in on master DAW
>>
>> Computer #2 (Master system)
>>
>> RME HDSP 9652 #1
>> ADAT I/O 1 > #1 RME ADI8-DS Main
>> ADAT I/O 2 > #1 RME ADI8-DS Aux
>> ADAT I/O 3> ADI4-DD (connected to AES I/O of Quantec Yardstick, =
>>Lexicon PCM-91, Roland R-880 and Sony V-77)
>> RME HDSP 9652 #1 Spdif out > RME HDSP 9652 #2 Spdif in
>>
>> RME HDSP 9652 #2
>> ADAT I/O 1 >#2 RME ADI8-DS Main
>> ADAT I/O 2 >#2 RME ADI8-DS-Aux
>> ADAT I/O 3> Frontier Apache I/O 3 (receiving VSTi audio from slave =
>>DAW)
>> RME HDSP 9652 #2 Spdif out > RME HDSP 9652 #3 Spdif in
>>
>> RME HDSP 9652 #3
>> ADAT I/O 1 > RME ADI8-DD Main (connected to AES of Mytek Stereo AD/DA,
> =
>>POD Pro XT, TC D-2, DAT machine=20
>> ADAT I/O 2 > RME ADI8-DD Aux " "
> =
>> " " "
>> ADAT I/O 3 > Frontier Apache I/O 4 (receiving VSTi audio from slave =
>>DAW)
>> RME HDSP 9652 #3 Spdif out > Benchmark DAC-1
>>
>> This way I would have 16 channels of ADAT streaming from the slave =
>>(sampler) to the Master DAW patched through the Apache and other digital
> =
>>devices I have here would be patched into the Apache points 5-12 and =
>>could then be interfaced with either DAW as needed for utility purposes.
>>
>> This would hopefully be a workaround of the "separate card" limitation
> =
>>in Totalmix and allow me to route the various channels of each card to =
>>it's Spdif out and then cascade the spdif outputs to the spdif inputs of
> =
>>each successive card with them all cumulating in card #3 of the Master =
>>DAW.
>>
>> I "think" this should work as long as the all cards are properly =
>>clocked and the master and slave DAWs are set to the same buffers and =
>>synced up using Systemlink.
>>
>> Anyone have any thoughts on this before I start tearing my current =
>>routing matrix apart?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Deej
>>
>>
>>
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>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hehehe!!!!!!!!........IT WORKS!!!!! I =
>>have defeated=20
>>the card limitations by cascading 4 x RME cards (a Multiface on a =
>>slave DAW=20
>>and 3 HDSP 9652's on the master DAW) by cascading the SPDIF out of one =
>>card to=20
>>SPDIF of the next. This gives me 72 ADAT I/O on 3 HDSP cards =
>>in the=20
>>Master DAW and a Multiface on the slave DAW, but all cards are =
>>talking to=20
>>each other, just like TotalMix functions on a MADI card. Since it's all
> =
>>digital=20
>>and all cards are set to the same buffer settings and sync'ed to the =
>>same clock,=20
>>I'm not hearing any phasing between the cards, even between the card on
> =
>>the=20
>>slave and master DAW.</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Nyuk..nyuk...nyuk..........now if I =
>>could just=20
>>figure out WTF I'm doing</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>;o)</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV> </DIV>
>><DIV> </DIV>
>><DIV> </DIV>
>><DIV>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message <A=20
>>href=3D"news:46e3aebd@linux">news:46e3aebd@linux</A>...</DIV>
>><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
>>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A MADI system doesn't have enough I/O
> =
>>for my=20
>> needs but it's a real PITA tracking using6 separate RME cards on two =
>>different=20
>> computers because the drivers do not allow the cards to sum to one =
>>card. I've=20
>> been racking my brain trying to figure out a way to get the I/O I need
> =
>>here to=20
>> sum into a single pair of outputs by physically routing =
>>them.</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Computer #1 (slave =
>>system)</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>RME HDSP 9632:</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O > Frontier Apache I/O 1 =
>>(Sending VSTi=20
>> audio to master DAW)</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>HDSP 9632 Spdif out > RME =
>>Multiface=20
>> Spdif in</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG></STRONG></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>RME Multiface </FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O > Frontier Apache I/O 2 =
>>(Sending VSTi=20
>> audio to master DAW )</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>Multiface Spdif out > RME =
>>HDSP 9652=20
>> Spdif in on master DAW</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Computer #2 (Master =
>>system)</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>RME HDSP 9652 #1</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O 1 > #1 RME ADI8-DS =
>>Main</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O 2 > #1 RME ADI8-DS=20
>> Aux</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O 3> ADI4-DD (connected to =
>>AES I/O of=20
>> Quantec Yardstick, Lexicon PCM-91, Roland R-880 and Sony =
>>V-77)</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>RME HDSP 9652 #1 Spdif out =
>>> RME HDSP=20
>> 9652 #2 Spdif in</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG></STRONG></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>RME HDSP 9652 #2</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O 1 >#2 RME ADI8-DS =
>>Main</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O 2 >#2 RME =
>>ADI8-DS-Aux</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O 3> Frontier Apache I/O 3=20
>> (receiving VSTi audio from slave DAW)</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>RME HDSP 9652 #2 Spdif out =
>>> RME HDSP=20
>> 9652 #3 Spdif in</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>RME HDSP 9652 #3<BR>ADAT I/O 1 =
>>> RME=20
>> ADI8-DD Main (connected to AES of Mytek Stereo AD/DA, POD Pro XT, TC =
>>D-2, DAT=20
>> machine </FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O 2 > RME ADI8-DD =
>>Aux =20
>> " =
>> =20
>> " =
>> =20
>> =
>>" =20
>> =
>>" =20
>> =
>>"</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ADAT I/O 3 > Frontier Apache I/O 4 =
>>(receiving=20
>> VSTi audio from slave DAW)</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>RME HDSP 9652 #3 Spdif out =
>>> Benchmark=20
>> DAC-1</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This way I would have 16 channels of
> =
>>ADAT=20
>> streaming from the slave (sampler) to the Master DAW patched through =
>>the=20
>> Apache and other digital devices I have here would be patched into the
> =
>>Apache=20
>> points 5-12 and could then be interfaced with either DAW as needed for
> =
>>utility=20
>> purposes.</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This would hopefully be a workaround
> =
>>of the=20
>> "separate card" limitation in Totalmix and allow me to route the =
>>various=20
>> channels of each card to it's Spdif out and then cascade the spdif =
>>outputs to=20
>> the spdif inputs of each successive card with them all cumulating =
>>in card=20
>> #3 of the Master DAW.</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I "think" this should work as long as
> =
>>the all=20
>> cards are properly clocked and the master and slave DAWs are set to =
>>the same=20
>> buffers and synced up using Systemlink.</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Anyone have any thoughts on this =
>>before I start=20
>> tearing my current routing matrix apart?</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
>>size=3D2></FONT> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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| Re: RME routing question [message #89628 is a reply to message #89624] |
Tue, 11 September 2007 19:59 |
Neil
Messages: 1645
Registered: April 2006
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"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>I really don't think you are supposed to be able to do this
>with Cubase. Isn't this some kind of exclusive
Nuendo "feature"?...Well,
>nonetheless, I'm doing it.
No, it's a hardware thang, not Cubase-Nuendo thing... in fact,
it's in the Multiface manual - remember we were talking about
this once over the phone? And I also posted the info here once
for somebody else a few months back. I've tested it, but
personally I haven't had to do it yet on an actual session
because I run the stuff through my 2nd Multiface that I don't
need to show up in the headphone mix like a 2nd bass amp mic or
direct stream, a triggered kick or snare signal if I've also
got mics on 'em, ALL toms (since you get plenty of toms in the
OH's), etc. etc.
Good for you for figuring it out though! If you need 576 inputs
to all be routed through the headphones, now you can do it!
:D lol
Actually, How many inputs are youse guys all using for full
band tracking? I've got 16 analog & 8 lightpipe (plus 2 stereo
SPDIF that are useless to me since I have no preamps with a
SPDIF output), and I've yet to use all of 'em at once, and I
always have at least two bass signal & at least two mics on
each guitar & sometimes a scratch vox. Now in the case of
someone like Deej who has 15 mics on each banjo, dobro, &
washboard I can see where he'd need more :) but 16 analogs,
plus 4 lightpipe usually gits 'er done for me. Anyone?
Neil
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| Re: RME routing question [message #89631 is a reply to message #89628] |
Tue, 11 September 2007 20:00 |
DJ
Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005
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Senior Member |
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"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46e75617$1@linux...
>
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>I really don't think you are supposed to be able to do this
>>with Cubase. Isn't this some kind of exclusive
> Nuendo "feature"?...Well,
>>nonetheless, I'm doing it.
>
> No, it's a hardware thang, not Cubase-Nuendo thing... in fact,
> it's in the Multiface manual - remember we were talking about
> this once over the phone? And I also posted the info here once
> for somebody else a few months back. I've tested it, but
> personally I haven't had to do it yet on an actual session
> because I run the stuff through my 2nd Multiface that I don't
> need to show up in the headphone mix like a 2nd bass amp mic or
> direct stream, a triggered kick or snare signal if I've also
> got mics on 'em, ALL toms (since you get plenty of toms in the
> OH's), etc. etc.
>
> Good for you for figuring it out though! If you need 576 inputs
> to all be routed through the headphones, now you can do it!
>
> :D lol
>
> Actually, How many inputs are youse guys all using for full
> band tracking? I've got 16 analog & 8 lightpipe (plus 2 stereo
> SPDIF that are useless to me since I have no preamps with a
> SPDIF output), and I've yet to use all of 'em at once, and I
> always have at least two bass signal & at least two mics on
> each guitar & sometimes a scratch vox. Now in the case of
> someone like Deej who has 15 mics on each banjo, dobro, &
> washboard I can see where he'd need more :) but 16 analogs,
> plus 4 lightpipe usually gits 'er done for me. Anyone?
>
> Neil
I'm using 26 AD/DA's here. That's enough for me.
;:)
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| Re: RME routing question [message #89644 is a reply to message #89633] |
Tue, 11 September 2007 21:24 |
DJ
Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005
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"Neil" <oIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46e75aa6$1@linux...
>
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>I'm using 26 AD/DA's here. That's enough for me.
>
> Why do you need so many cards, then? Is it for the external EFX
> routing & such?
>
> Neil
Yes. I want to be able to work at 88.2 without jumping through a bunch of
hoops and I want to stay digital as much as possible.
The routing scenario I set out in my original post will allow me to
doublewire and up/downsample my PMC-91, Quantec, Sony V77 and Roland R880
using a pair of RME ADI8-DD units while also double wiring my two ADI-8-DS
units and doublewiring my Mytek Stereo AD/DA and my Pod XP Pro usng an RME
ADI4-DD. Most of the horsepower/ UAD-1 DSP stuff will be on the master DAW,
but the slave will also have the Multiface for interfacing analog gear,
native VST plugins and VSTi's. with these systemlinked, it should be tres
cool, sorta like running a dual socket dual core system but with lots more
I/O capabilities. I ordered a pair of 750G SATA Drives and rather than deal
with networking, I'm probably just going to load one on each DAW, give the
projects duplicate names and keep things off the network. I've ordered
another Opteron 185 for the slave DAW. All other hardware on that system is
identical to the master DAW.systemlink just works so friggin nicely when set
up properly. The only glitch was summing all these cards while tracking. I
think I've got that solved now, FWIW, plus I can add another card (or two
Magmas full of UAD-1 cards and RME cards like the master DAW) to the slave
DAW if I need even more I/O
Wretched excess????............well yeah!!
;O)
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| Re: RME routing question [message #89650 is a reply to message #89644] |
Tue, 11 September 2007 23:10 |
Neil
Messages: 1645
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Gotcha.
Or at least i THINK i gotcha. lol
Makes sense what you're trying to do, IOW.
Five questions:
1.) What are you using as a master clock? Just curious.
2.) Do you ever get "unlocks"? You know, where you're running
right along & something de-clocks on the digital side & you've
got pinknoisefromhell or loss of signal?
3.) Considering RME's cleanliness, have you ever tried NOT
going digital with your outboard EFX & going in analog instead?
Reason being: if you're not having to samplerate-convert, you
might end up with a better-quality EFX signal than if you had a
jittery samplerate conversion? Not saying you've got jitter,
but just wondering if you've tried it.
Wait, that wasn't five, it was three.... AAAAAAHHHGGHH!
(Semi-obscure Monty Python reference :D )
Neil
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>
>"Neil" <oIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46e75aa6$1@linux...
>>
>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>I'm using 26 AD/DA's here. That's enough for me.
>>
>> Why do you need so many cards, then? Is it for the external EFX
>> routing & such?
>>
>> Neil
>
>Yes. I want to be able to work at 88.2 without jumping through a bunch of
>hoops and I want to stay digital as much as possible.
>
>The routing scenario I set out in my original post will allow me to
>doublewire and up/downsample my PMC-91, Quantec, Sony V77 and Roland R880
>using a pair of RME ADI8-DD units while also double wiring my two ADI-8-DS
>units and doublewiring my Mytek Stereo AD/DA and my Pod XP Pro usng an RME
>ADI4-DD. Most of the horsepower/ UAD-1 DSP stuff will be on the master DAW,
>but the slave will also have the Multiface for interfacing analog gear,
>native VST plugins and VSTi's. with these systemlinked, it should be tres
>cool, sorta like running a dual socket dual core system but with lots more
>I/O capabilities. I ordered a pair of 750G SATA Drives and rather than deal
>with networking, I'm probably just going to load one on each DAW, give the
>projects duplicate names and keep things off the network. I've ordered
>another Opteron 185 for the slave DAW. All other hardware on that system
is
>identical to the master DAW.systemlink just works so friggin nicely when
set
>up properly. The only glitch was summing all these cards while tracking.
I
>think I've got that solved now, FWIW, plus I can add another card (or two
>Magmas full of UAD-1 cards and RME cards like the master DAW) to the slave
>DAW if I need even more I/O
>
>Wretched excess????............well yeah!!
>
>;O)
>
>
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| Re: RME routing question [message #89654 is a reply to message #89650] |
Tue, 11 September 2007 23:48 |
DJ
Messages: 1124
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Neil" <OIUOIU@IOU.com>
Newsgroups: IDEA.EMUEnsoniqPARIS
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:10 AM
Subject: Re: RME routing question
>
> Gotcha.
>
> Or at least i THINK i gotcha. lol
>
> Makes sense what you're trying to do, IOW.
>
> Five questions:
> 1.) What are you using as a master clock? Just curious.
Mytek Stereo A/D converter distributed by a Lucid GenX6
> 2.) Do you ever get "unlocks"? You know, where you're running
> right along & something de-clocks on the digital side & you've
> got pinknoisefromhell or loss of signal?
Never.
> 3.) Considering RME's cleanliness, have you ever tried NOT
> going digital with your outboard EFX & going in analog instead?
> Reason being: if you're not having to samplerate-convert, you
> might end up with a better-quality EFX signal than if you had a
> jittery samplerate conversion? Not saying you've got jitter,
> but just wondering if you've tried it.
I've tried it. it does sound very good. RME converters are, IMO, very good.
I'm wanting to stay digital as much as possible because, quite frankly, I've
got such a godawful rats nest of patch cables when I'm mixing that adding
8-10 more to the Medusa emulation just becomes friggin overwhelming, time
consuming and cumbersome. The Quantec doesn't even have AD/DA's, it's all
AES, the roland R-880 has some old 20 bit converters that actually sound
quite good (they should-these thengswere expensive in their day) and the
Lexicon PCM90's 20 bit converters are OK.not great. the sony V77's onverters
are pretty good too. It's just the sheer volume of cabling when I'm
interfacing 8 or 9 outbard compressors,, an EQ or two, a deesser..etc.
I'm not having any jitter problems at all with the digital stuff though.
Rock solid and this system is more stable than any Paris system I ever
built. Not the most powerful DAW around, but it's a great mobo and the
Opteron 185 running at 2600MHZ per core has plenty of horsepower. Two of
them systemlinked will be even better,though I've been pretty happy with the
AMD 64 x 2 4400 that's in the slave right now. that one is going on an
office machine that will be networded to the studio DAWs for backups and
system updates.
;o)
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