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XP assertion errors still [message #61824] Fri, 23 December 2005 15:46 Go to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]   UNITED STATES
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gt;> That's not what I read. What I read is that OS X is disastrous
at
>> >> >managing
>> >> >> >> mutliple threads. Most, but not all, workstation apps use
>relatively
>> >> >few
>> >> >> >> threads. Something like LW or AfterEffects will usually be only
>> a
>> >few
>> >> >> threads
>> >> >> >> and the penalty for bad multi-threading will be minimal.
Re: XP assertion errors still [message #61826 is a reply to message #61824] Fri, 23 December 2005 18:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> >>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:43ac40b4$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>TCB wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Looking at the links, Tiger 10.4.1 on a
Re: XP assertion errors still [message #61828 is a reply to message #61824] Fri, 23 December 2005 17:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> I hope they open it up to AMD also, but I doubt it. As for OSX
running
> >> >faster
> >> >> on an Intel chip, I hope it does! I'd still like to see some fair
> and
> >> >balanced
> >> >> tests showing a 3Ghz Celeron running OSX, and being able to smoke a
> G5.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> James
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:43ac40b4$1@linux...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Jamie K <
Re: XP assertion errors still [message #61834 is a reply to message #61826] Sat, 24 December 2005 04:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]   UNITED STATES
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gt;
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:43ac8c32@linux...
>> I'm doing basic recording on a fresh install and when I close Paris I'm
>> getting blue screen hard crash with assertion errors. Is it ok to use
>> an EDS mono delay on two adjacent channels while using stereo native
>> effects? I would expect this to be ok and not the problem but having
a
>> totally fresh install with only a couple plugs it really frustrating.
I
>> even started with a new project not based on Default Project.ppj so I
>> know it's not a corrupt project. Any help appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> John
>
>Hi Mike,
Just go to Control Panel\System\Hardware\Device Manager\Hardware\Disk drives
and you will see all your drives listed. Right-click on Properties of your
hard drive(s) and uncheck the caching box.
Edna
"Mike Audet" <mike@mikeF-SPAMaudet.com> wrote in message
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>
> Hi Edna,
>
> How do you disable the caching? I might try this since I'm getting the
occasional
> crash, too.
>
> All the best,
>
> Mike
>
> "Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote:
> >If you havent done so already, you might try disabling disk caching on<
Re: XP assertion errors still [message #61835 is a reply to message #61828] Sat, 24 December 2005 04:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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br /> your
> >drives. I havent had any assertion errors since I did this.
> >Edna
> >
> >"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:43ac8c32@linux...
> >> I'm doing basic recording on a fresh install and when I close Paris I'm
> >> getting blue screen hard crash with assertion errors. Is it ok to use
> >> an EDS mono delay on two adjacent channels while using stereo native
> >> effects? I would expect this to be ok and not the problem but having
> a
> >> totally fresh install with only a couple plugs it really frustrating.
> I
> >> even started with a new project not based on Default Project.ppj so I
> >> know it's not a corrupt project. Any help appreciated.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> John
> >
> >
>You can try to start in 'safe'-mode and go into hardware and delete all of
the cd-drives you find and then re-start the machine.
Hope it helps
merry xmas
Jorsi

"erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> skrev i en meddelelse news:
Re: XP assertion errors still [message #61838 is a reply to message #61828] Sat, 24 December 2005 06:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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plugs it really frustrating.
I
>>
>>
>>>even started with a new project not based on Default Project.ppj so I

>>>know it's not a corrupt project. Any help appreciated.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>John
>>
>>Hi,
Regard the disabling of disk caching you have firstly to remove if any the
Intel application accelarator if you have put it there.
After that you can do it as EDNA described it.
Regards and Merry Christmas.
Dimitrios

"Mike Audet" <mike@mikeF-SPAMaudet.com> wrote:
>
>Hi Edna,
>
>How do you disable the caching? I might try this since I'm getting the
occasional
>crash, too.
>
>All the best,
>
>Mike
>
>"Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote:
>>If you havent done so already, you might try disabling disk caching on
your
>>drives. I havent had any assertion errors since I did this.
>>Edna
>>
>>"John" <

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Re: XP assertion errors still [message #61839 is a reply to message #61838] Sat, 24 December 2005 06:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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64;no.com" target="_blank">no@no.com> wrote in message news:43ac8c32@linux...
>>> I'm doing basic recording on a fresh install and when I close Paris I'm
>>> getting blue screen hard crash with assertion errors. Is it ok to use
>>> an EDS mono delay on two adjacent channels while using stereo native
>>> effects? I would expect this to be ok and not the problem but having
>a
>>> totally fresh install with only a couple plugs it really frustrating.
> I
>>> even started with a new project not based on Default Project.ppj so I
>>> know it's not a corrupt project. Any help appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> John
>>
>>
>Blockfish is about the only native compressor I use anymore... love it!

CL

"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
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> ..........errrr..........Blockfish..........and it's free.
>
> http://www.digitalfishphones.com/main.php?item=2&subItem =5
>
> All of these plugins are very good, IMHO.
>
> Merry Christmas
>Jorsi, Erling -- thanks both for the excellent suggestions -- I'll try
them out as soon as this Holiday (and my family) give me a chance.

much appreciated -- happy holidays -- Chas.

On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 11:58:02 -0300, "Jorsi" <studios@greennet.gl>
wrote:

>You can try to start i
Re: XP assertion errors still [message #61841 is a reply to message #61834] Sat, 24 December 2005 08:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Units, etc.) is not there and won't be for a
very
>> >long
>> >> time, if ever. But for the daily tasks that many computers do, web
>> >browsing,
>> >> emailing, writing, spreadsheets, and so on, GNU\Linux is not only there
>> >it's
>> >> BETTER than the proprietary options. OpenOffice.org is, in my opinion,
>> a
>> >> notable improvement over any proprietary office suite out there.
>Evolution
>> >> is a superb email/contact/scheduling app that will sync nicely to Palm
>> >devices.
>> >> I work in an Outlook/Exchange centric office so I can't use it for
>work,
>> >> but all of the super hip Google Desktop "index my 2GB inbox for me
so
>> I
>> >can
>> >> do complex searches in two seconds" stuff has been in Evolution for
>years.
>> >> Then, on top of all of that "desktop" stuff, a basic Debian install
>will
>> >> also include PostgreSQL (enterprise class database), Apache (#1 web
>server
>> >> in the world), Perl/Python/PHP programming languages, an elegant and
>> >powerful
>> >> shell, enterprise class firewall/router tools, and about fifty thousand
>> >other
>> >> cool things that will allow you to take control over your computing
>world
>> >> in a way that you might never have before. You know those moments when
>> you
>> >> think, "Crikey, I wish every time I booted the machine I didn't have
to
>> >click
>> >> these same four boxes and start these same two apps." One quick shell
>> >script
>> >> and you'll never have to touch it again.
>> >>
>> >> The downside is that nobody is OBLIGATED to help you with computer
>> >problems.
>> >> I'll personally volunteer to do whatever I can to help you out if
>you'll
>> >> give a swing, but leaving Big Brother (be he Jobs or Gates) means none
>> of
>> >> His underlings work on official help lines. If you want to get your
>first
>> >> taste (like most drugs the first taste is free, but unlike most drugs
Re: XP assertion errors still [message #61842 is a reply to message #61838] Sat, 24 December 2005 08:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>> so
>> >> are all of the subsequent tastes) check out http://www.knoppix.org/
and
>> >http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/
>> >> for some live CDs. Live CDs are great because you boot off the CD and
>> can
>> >> take a look at what these distros are about. Knoppix is a great
>resource
>> >> even as an XP rescue CD and includes a very nicely implemented KDE
>> >desktop,
>> >> while Ubuntu is a great beginners distrobution that includes "Gnome
>done
>> >> right" and is very good about managing slightly funky video drivers.
>You
>> >> can try either without touching your base OS install to get an idea
>what
>> >> using GNU\Linux will be like. Both Knoppix and Ubuntu are Debian based,
>> so
>> >> my knowledge will be fairly useful if you run into problems.
>> >>
>> >> The final downside is that once you're really in control of your
>computer
>> >> you won't ever want to use a proprietary OS again, ever. It will
>infuriate
>> >> you that someone else thinks he/she can tell you how an application
>should
>> >> run. You have been warned . . .
>> >>
>> >> TCB
>> >>
>> >> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> >> >I have been tempted for a while to start educating myself myself about
>> &
Re: XP assertion errors still [message #61873 is a reply to message #61835] Sun, 25 December 2005 16:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> >
> > > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> > > >One of my Christmas presents to myself is going to be a VSTi host
> > program.
> > > I
> > > >have played around with Kontact and Halion a little, but this was
with
> > older
> > > >programs and it was a while back. I want something that is going to
be
> as
> > > >friendly with Cubase SX as possible. I'm not really into synths so
> much.
> > > the
> > > >project work I'm going to be doing here is based more on acoustic
> > > >instruments and I'd like to have a nice B3 for bluesy stuff from time
> to
> > > >time.
> > >
> > > It's hard to go wrong with a good sampler like Kontakt. You can always
> add
> > > more samples libraries later. Many of the GigaStudio libraries are
> > available
> > > for Kontakt, and it generally does a good job opening patches from
other
> > > samplers.
> > > Kontakt is quite powerful and surprisingly easy to use. The basic
string
> > > library that comes with it is fine, but I don't like the standard
pianos
> > > very much.
> > > I still tend to reach for Giga for Pianos and strings and MachFive or
> Giga
> > > for critical sonic use, but I recommend Kontakt as the best choice for
a
> > > single sampler setup.
> > > I can't speak to Cubase integration; other then to say Kontakt works
> well
> > > in V-Stack.
> > >
> > > I sounds like you may be better off with individu
Re: XP assertion errors still [message #61880 is a reply to message #61873] Mon, 26 December 2005 04:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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" regardless
of
>> flexibility and then pick up a sampler for the rest of it. For example,
in
>> my music I simply could not live without Atmosphere from Spectrasonics.
If
>> I had to buy an iMac just to run it I would, though thanks be to Marduk
I
>> don't. Second up would be electric pianos and for me the NI electic piano
>> instrument is worth every penny even if it only does one thing. After
that
>> for a lot of other instruments VSampler and a dec
Re: XP assertion errors still [message #61882 is a reply to message #61873] Mon, 26 December 2005 04:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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o it sounds to me like you should get the B4, buy the
>> acoustic piano instrument you like the best and then get a general purpose
>> sampler for the rest.
>>
>> One more thing, you might want to check out Komplete from NI.
>>
>> TCB
&
Re: XP assertion errors still [message #61896 is a reply to message #61880] Mon, 26 December 2005 16:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Martin Harrington is currently offline  Martin Harrington   AUSTRALIA
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/> >>>next album to you as soon as the toys arrive. :-)
>>>
>>>John
>>>
>>>
>>>rick wrote:
>>>
>>>>though it's the 26th i can get a list off you...just pick the top 5 or
>>>>10. ;o)
>>>>
>>>>On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 18:28:44 -0500, John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>you wanna give me something ?
>>>>>
>>>>>justcron wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Merry Christmas y'allz
>>>>>>
>>>>>>remember: its better to give than to receive
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote in message news:
Re: XP assertion errors still [message #61909 is a reply to message #61896] Tue, 27 December 2005 05:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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t;sure man, email me your real address.

"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:43b1411c@linux...
> so you think justcron is
Re: XP assertion errors still [message #61916 is a reply to message #61909] Tue, 27 December 2005 08:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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1.2). On the one hand, it might not be the worst idea for him to move to
> some other recording system at this point. On the other, he's used to Paris
> and it was hard enough to get him into the whole idea of recording on a
> computer in the first place, I'm not sure moving to an all-native system
> would be a good idea. But he loves Waves, and currently he's running into
> limitations with his current rig. And I don't think I can talk him into
> shelling out for a full blown PT HD rig at this point, even though that
> would probably be ideal for what
Re: XP assertion errors still [message #61940 is a reply to message #61916] Wed, 28 December 2005 04:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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br /> > Macintosh using an Intel microprocessor—it allows applications to run as
> nonnative binaries. Many, but not all, applications can run translated.
> Applications that run translated will never run as fast as they run as a
> native binary because the translation process itself incurs a processing
> cost. How compatible your application is with Rosetta depends on the
> type of application. Applications that have a lot of user interaction
> and low computational needs, such as a word processor, are quite
> compatible. Those that have a moderate amount of user interaction and
> some high computational needs or that use OpenGL are, in most cases,
> also quite compatible. Those that have intense co
Re: XP assertion errors still [message #61941 is a reply to message #61940] Wed, 28 December 2005 06:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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mputing needs aren’t
> compatible. This includes applications that need to repeatedly compute
> fast Fourier transforms (FFTs), that compute complex models for 3-D
> modelling, or compute ray tracing. "
>
> OK, so how hard is it to make your app run NATIVELY on both PPC and
> Intel OSX?
>
> http://emperor.tidbits.com/TidBITS/Talk/493/?@572.UOwNar5Sbg j@
> http://www.macfixit.com/article.php?story=20051209073025309
> http://osx86.theplaceforitall.com/software/
> http://www.momathome.com/viewfromhome/2005/06/adobe_porting. php
> http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=130673
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
>

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Re: XP assertion errors still [message #61987 is a reply to message #61941] Thu, 29 December 2005 04:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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nity and generally behaved as excellent citizens in
that polis. I'd say IBM in the innovation and vision front surpass even google,
because while google provides many thinga that are free as in beer and some
things that are free as in speech (http://code.google.com/) IBM provides
many things that are free as in speech and a few that are free as in beer.
To me the latter is far more impressive, and companies like M$oft, Apple,
Dell, and the rest are just eating up the dust of companies like google and
IBM.

>Apple has sold more UNIX based operating systems than any other company!
> I wouldn't call that insignificant. Your version of UNIX maybe more efficient
>and more robust as a net work server than Mac OS, however that isn't what
>Mac OS was geared for. It's nothing more than a pissing match, to say Mac
>OSX is inefficient compared to some other version of UNIX, but at what?

>You can say that another version of UNIX is better than Mac OSX, but at
what???
>It's not as usable as a Mac. Certainly not for A/V, multi media! Isn't
>that where the computing world is going???

*Sold* being the operative word here. If you say OS X is unix, then maybe
Apple has sold the most machines with a *nix pre-installed on it. There are
tens (hundreds?) of millions of servers alone running GNY\Linux of one sort
or another, and likely a few time as many running on desktops, though nobody
knows for sure because each download of a distro doesn't could mean zero
installs o
Re: XP assertion errors still [message #61992 is a reply to message #61987] Thu, 29 December 2005 08:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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u own?
Can you copy a friends cd if you own the vinyl album?
Can you copy a cd you get from the library?

Can you copy a dvd that you own?
Can you copy a dvd that you get from the library?

Can you copy the world onto your video/audio ipod?

Thanks,
JohnYep, I know what means RAID... ;-)
I have RAID 0 (stripe) on my second (Cubase) computer...

I'm just affraid if RAID will degrade PARIS streaming performance..
Protools lite, like pro digi 002 and 001 doesnt like RAID and
results in many streaming errors!!
Digidesign also claims not to use RAID with their 001 and 002 systems..

What a f__k?

My head will blow of that much thinking...

Thanks.

Suad

"erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote in message news:43b3b3e7@linux...
> Hello Suad.
>
> If you want to use RAID, be sure you allways have backups of everything on
> those disks. One of my best friends, working in Nuendo, lost a whole
> production a couple of months ago here in Norway without any backups. It's
> really speedy with RAID, but if you just get problems with one of the
> harddisks, you loose the other too.
>
> Erling
>
> "Suad" <suad@sail.hr> skrev i melding news:43b3abd5@linux...
> > Hello.
> >
> > Just making new computer for paris.
> > It's an Intel P4 3.2G Northwood with an Intel 875PBZ mainboard.
> > As the mainboard have ICH5R chip, I can choose to RAID or to not...
> >
> > I thougt to take 2x segate 160gig s-ata and put them into RAID...
> > ...or to take one WD Raptor for system and o
Re: XP assertion errors still [message #62000 is a reply to message #61987] Thu, 29 December 2005 08:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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cal. You might as well have just told them that Rush Limbaugh is a
> big Mac user! This is sure to start some stuff.
>
> Is GWB aware that Al Gore sits on Apples board of directors?
>
>
>>So I guess merely having a Mac will not necessarily assure domestic or
>>worldwide popularity, or inspiring governance.
>>
>>Yet another strike against Apple? ;^)
>>
>>Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>>DJ wrote:
>>
>>>. The Mac bashing is more than just an opinion, it's ignorant and mean
>>>
>>>
>>>>spirited, and it deserves a response. It really is a slam on anybody
>>>
>>>that
>>>
>>>
>>>>uses a Mac.
>>>
>>>
>>>.........hmmmmm........sorta' like when people say "we really like
>>>Americans, we just don't like your government".
>
>Excellent rant, DC. You should run that on your blog.

BTW, the theory as I've heard it is "Computers are great." With the
immediately offered corollary "Computers suck."

Cheers,
-Jamie
http://www.JamieKrutz.com


DC wrote:
> Guys, computers all suck. all of 'em.
>
> On a good day, some suck less than others.
>
>
> There's several things we know.
>
> For the amount of money they make Microsoft still provides
> products that are, well, POS's. Imagine! an OS that lets scummers
> put things in the registry and install apps! That's just the beginning
> of course, but why belabor the point. XP is crap, compare to what
> it should be by now.
>
> Apple, like MS, Sony, GM and E-MU is quite capable of putting out
> utter crap as well as quite good stuff. (GM had a great idea with
Re: XP assertion errors still [message #62007 is a reply to message #61987] Thu, 29 December 2005 10:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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...
> I just added a second eds 1000 card and want to have a mixer with 32
> channels instead of two at 16. Also want to load more effects on the
global
> master. I know it's probably simple, but I can't make it happen. Thanks.
>
>You might also check, if you haven't already, in Device Manager and see if
there are any conflicts and if any IRQs are being shared with Paris -
especially a video card.

"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:43b422b5@linux...
> os and projects ARE on different drives AND controllers and caching is
> turned OFF on both. Os is on IDE1 master and projects is on IDE2 master
>
> Edna wrote:
> > Not sure what the "MM" refers to(multimedia?). You might research this
> > error at Microsoft site. Do you have your OS and projects on different
> > drives/controllers?
> >
> > "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:43b3d299$1@linux...
> >
> >>Last nights BSOD crash was something like Device_MM_Controller. If
> >>Paris was reliable for me it sure would be useful. Any tips always
> >>appreciated. This is very frustrating.
> >>
> >>John
> >>
> >>cujo wrote:
> >>
> >>>So this is the cause of the Blue Screen OF Death at shut down? I also
> >
> > have
> >
> >>>an issue woth closing paris.
> >>>I have to turn my comp off at the button.
> >>>Can you explain to a windows novice how to check th
Re: XP assertion errors still [message #62009 is a reply to message #62000] Thu, 29 December 2005 09:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>
> > Paris
> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>anymore and haven't used it for about 2 years.
> >>>>>>>Don't forget the Emu directory thing though.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >
> >Well I guess that's why I couldn't figure it out. However, I am maxed out
on resources in the global master, but I have plenty of resource room on
card B (card A is maxed.) How do I use card B resources to add more effects
on the global master inserts?

Thanks
Kent

"Suad" <suad@sail.hr> wrote in message news:43b429e8@linux...
> NOT POSSIBLE.
>
> Sorry, but that's it.
>
> Adding more cards you can have more submixes in "card" possition.
> Every card has its own 16 channel mixer and own DSP fx and fx returns.
> Output of all submixes (cards) are summed together and output
> to master card mix and control room outputs. Master FX are related to
> master card only and therefore affects master card DSP chips only. (6 per
> card)
> Even aux sends are NOT summed across all submixes (cards).
> That is advantage, but in some cases BIG disadvantage.
> And finally, no cross conections between different cards and MEC's
> are possible in PARIS patchbay. That is worse of all.
>
> Cheers.
>
> Suad
>
>
> "RK" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43b42516@linux...
> > I just added a second eds 1000 card and want to have a mixer with 32
> > channels instead of two at 16. Also want to load more effects on the
> global
> > master. I know it's probably simple, but I can't make it happen.
Thanks.
> >
> >
>
>Didn't read your post thoroughly enough. I see that you said Master FX only
correspond to the master card. So load the global FX on card A, right?

"Suad" <suad@sail.hr> wrote in message news:43b429e8@linux...
> NOT POSSIBLE.
>
> Sorry, but that's it.
>
> Adding more cards you can have more submixes in "card" possition.
> Every card has its own 16 channel mi
Re: XP assertion errors still [message #62010 is a reply to message #62007] Thu, 29 December 2005 09:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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xer and own DSP fx and fx returns.
> Output of all submixes (cards) are summed together and output
> to master card mix and control room outputs. Master FX are related to
> master card only and therefore affects master card DSP chips only. (6 per
> card)
> Even aux sends are NOT summed across all submixes (cards).
> That is advantage, but in some cases BIG disadvantage.
> And finally, no cross conections between different cards and MEC's
> are possible in PARIS patchbay. That is worse of all.
>
> Cheers.
>
> Suad
>
>
> "RK" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43b42516@linux...
> > I just added a second eds 1000 card and want to have a mixer with 32
> > channels instead of two at 16. Also want to load more effects on the
> global
> > master. I know it's probably simple, but I can't make it happen.
Thanks.
> >
> >
>
>"Jon Jiles" <no@nomo.com> wrote:
>
>.. and you couldn't spend a fortune, what would it be?

Depends how you'd define "fortune".... if you're talking about
under $2k, I'd say my Chandler TG2... if you're talking about
under a grand & a single channel pre, it be the Grace 101 - they
can't do everything, but they're super-clean, and you can always
find a way to work with "clean".

NeilNeil,

I think the new mp5 format will actually fit the world on a single layer
DVD-R. I hear the high end is pretty grainy though. ;>)

Tony


"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:43b42073$1@linux...
>
> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>Does anyone have a web site that makes it clear regarding audio cds and
>
>>video dvds regarding copying? Like:
>
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(Neutrik if possible)
Note that MIDI uses only 3 pins.
Make sure that you connect ground (pin2 at midi and cable shield) to XLR pin
1.
You can solder MIDI pin 4 to XLR 2 and MIDI pin 5 to XLR 3.
Midi pins 1 and 3 are not used.
And again - You MUST use XLR pin 1 for ground, to avoid MIDI interfering
with other audio lines inside the snake.

There are schematics:

Midi IN : http://www.hardwarebook.net/connector/serial/midiin.html
Midi OUT : http://www.hardwarebook.net/connector/serial/midiout.html

If you have any questions, contact me at suad@sail.hr or call at +385 91
3737465

Cheers!

Suad




"Mark McCurdy" <mark@mccurdy.net> wrote in message news:43b3edee@linux...
> I'm looking for an adapter that will allow me to send a midi signal down a
> standard XLR snake. I've seen them so I know they exist but it's been
> years. Does anyone know of a company that would still make these?
>
>
>Is this db from our group? If so, I'm very sorry to hear it. If not, still
very sorry to hear it. Passing away on a holiday has to be extra hard for
those loved ones left behind. Hopefully they can find a way to make
Christmas a day to remember the happy times and honor his life, rather than
his death.

Tony

"zornwil" <wilson.zorn@takeout_asterick_theobvious.com> wrote in message
news:43b36617@linux...
> In case anyone's interested and not aware, Derek Bailey passed away
> December
> 25th (Christmas) in London from Lou Gehrig's disease.
>
>Yep.

Master FX - Master card.

If the sharing DSP resources between the cards is possible,
audio cross-conections between the cards and MECs will also
be possible in PARIS patchbay. It is an PARIS hardware fact.
New PARIS hardware design should solve this "issue".
....but, not in this lifetime. ;-)

Btw, how did you maxed DSP's? What fx did you used?

Cheers!

Suad


"RK" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43b42b39@linux...
> Didn't read your post thoroughly enough. I see that you said Master FX
only
> correspond to the master card. So load the global FX on card A, right?
>
> "Suad" <suad@sail.hr> wrote in message news:43b429e8@linux...
> > NOT POSSIBLE.
> >
> > Sorry, but that's it.
> >
> > Adding more cards you can have more submixes in "card" possition.
> > Every card has its own 16 channel mixe
Re: XP assertion errors still [message #62026 is a reply to message #62010] Thu, 29 December 2005 12:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ggedJamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>TCB wrote:
>> OK, I'll take these in order.
>
>> As far as my qualifications, I'm not an MSCE and in fact I have no formal
>> computer training at all. I have a dusty old humanities B.A. around here
>> somewhere. As far as my knowledge of Macs, you might want to google my
name
>> along with words like "audio" "Apple" and "computers" to see what shows
up.
>> I probably had 30 articles published about Macs and audio before 90% of
the
>> people currently using computers for music had heard of one. I've been
at
>> this long enough that I remember booting into Open Firmware and having
to
>> learn a little bit about Forth scripting in order to boot [pirated] beta
>> versions of BeOS and some Linux distro on a 603e based Mac. Am I a "Winoz"
>> user? Yes and no.
>
>MSWindows and Linux seem to be where you have current experience.

Probably in order of expertise I go Windows - Debian - OS X, though Debian
is getting close. That said, when long time OS X only people break their
machines (graphic designers, musicians, civilians) they call me to fix them
and I do. Also, every article I write for Electronic Musician and the books
I wrote I had to check on OS X and Mac compatibility. So I'd guess my OS
X skills would be somewhere above the median for *techs* not users. I don't
think ignorance clears the hurdle as an excuse.

>
>> What exactly Apple is or isn't is purely subjective. I think they were
a
>> visionary company a long time ago. I think they are still a superb consumer
>> electronics and design company, and nobody can managey hype like Steve
Jobs.
>> They were first to market with a really superb product that will be emblematic
>> of the oncoming tidal wave of portable devices that will largely replace
>> the desktop computers that we use now. Then again, they were first to
make
>> a home computer seem like a good (and chic) idea and they managed to parlay
>> that into . . . near bankruptcy. That's what I think Apple is.
>
>What Apple was, actually. You should get up to date on that.
>
>Like Microsoft, Apple got stuck in their early 80s decisions and really

>struggled to get past that.
>
>But that's ancient history at this point. Once the decision was made to

>go with NeXTSTEP, things began to change. That's when Apple became very

>interesting to me (although I did write for MacWEEK and MacUser before
>OSX - so I know the era you're stuck in).
>
>A
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s far as the financial performance NOW, the stock is through the roof FWIW.

I'm not "stuck in" any era. I deal with these things all the time, maybe
15% of my tech work. And the stock going through the roof has jack to do
with OS X, that's the iPod and there's a lot of future success built in to
the current price.

>
>> I don't think they've been terribly visionary of late.
>
>IOW, they don't support open source as much as you'd like. Which is a
>fair point.
>
>But as far as providing capabilities for media production on fast
>hardware, they've been doing pretty well of late. Long term support of a

>new OS has paid off. Long term vision has come to fruition. You should
>look into it.

None of which has anything to do with the original question, which is whether
OS X is or is not hindering the possible performance of the hardware on which
it runs.

>
>> You should read my other post to Jamie. The question put to me, somewhat
>> snidely in my opinion, was to prove that I wasn't passing off "urban legend"
>> about OS X performance being less than fantastic on PPC processors. This
>> came in response to someone saying a 1.3 Ghz Celeron running OS X was
out-benchmarking
>> much faster/more expensive G5s. I had heard similar things some time back
>> and investigated and found articles about how poorly multiple threads
are
>> managed. Presented with the fact that, surprisingly considering how dense
>> I am, I was not peddling "urban legend" Jamie decided that OS X was good
>> enough for him. This has absolutely nothing to do with the argument and
I
>> said so.
>
>Dude, sorry if I offended you. When you posted an assertion with no
>references, I gave an opinion (email does not convey voice tonality -
>I'm a very relaxed person so picture a calm voice). You backed up your
>assertion after that and I gave you full credit for that.

Dude, you didn't offend me, dude. However, dude, I don't like being told
I'm passing undigested misinformation around as fact, nor do I like being
called brainwashed (I realize the second part wasn't you). Also, as you probably
have noticed over the years on this NG I'm not a particularly nice person
and don't pretend to be otherwise. That said, I do have a good (though admitedly
dark) sense of humor and am not averse to well founded criticism. Accusing
me of dispensing "urban legend" without even taking the time to google "os
x vs linux G5" does not, in my book, qualify as well founded critique, dude.


>However, it's not just a matter of "good enough for me" although I offer

>that as evidence in the discussion. It's a matter that despite a design

>criticism of threading problems under certain kinds of server loads
>MacOSX still manages to easily offer a better overall media production
>platform than Linux, for the moment anyway. And IMO OSX also offers a
>better experience than MSWindows.

Throughout this discussion I have said every single time that linux is not
a good platform for multi-media authoring. This has more to do with the fact
that the software vendors us proprietary file formats and processing than
the underlying OS. If VST ran under linux I'm sure ableton would produce
the most badass version of Live you could imagind that I would run on
Re: XP assertion errors still [message #62112 is a reply to message #61987] Fri, 30 December 2005 16:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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V>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Lance</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
> >>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
> >>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> >> <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> >> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
> >>in message=20
> >> <A href=3D"news:43b59383$1@linux">news:43b59383$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
> >> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>John,</FONT></DIV>
> >> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Besides automation I like to put two
> > =
> >>La2as in=20
> >> series. A Waves ren/C1 will</FONT></DIV>
> >> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>also work here. Use the =
> >>f</FONT><FONT=20
> >> face=3DArial size=3D2>irst one to grab the peaks in limit mode and the
> > =
> >>other=20
> >> to</FONT></DIV>
> >> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>smooth what's left in comp =
> >>mode. Dial in=20
> >> small amounts so </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>neither gets =
> >>whacked too=20
> >> hard. </FONT></DIV>
> >> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Then apply automation =
> >>to </FONT><FONT=20
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> >>size=3
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r /> >>>>>>> Paris app resides. If you hvae version 3, it most likely is. If you
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> have
>>>
>>>>>>> version 2, it's in the ensoniq folder.
>>>>>>> Rod
>>>>>>> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What's the EMU directory thing ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Martin Harrington wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That sounds right, but I'm going from memory here as I don't have
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Paris
>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> anymore and haven't used it for about 2 years.
>>>>>>>>> Don't forget the Emu directory thing though.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>Well Martin, you do great work and it brings great joy to millions of
people. nice job !!

Martin Harrington wrote:
> Yep, that was me, a lifetime ago now.
> 1979, the year my eldest daughter was born.Thanks Pete.
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com

"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:43b5edeb@linux...
> Well Martin, you do great work and it brings great joy to millions of
> people. nice job !!
>
> Martin Harrington wrote:
>> Yep, that was me, a lifetime ago now.
>> 1979, the year my eldest daughter was born.i don't get it? seriously

Martin Harrington wrote:
> Thanks Pete.Put 16 tracks in constrained mode. Add 1 BlueTubes VST to each channel.
Press play. BAM! ***Assertion Failed: FileCache.c:462 offset>
=0&&<p-> count

I guess I need to buy a new c:462. heheHey Martin, If you have a minute, what setup are you running now
instead of Paris.

John wrote:
> i don't get it? seriously
>
> Martin Harrington wrote:
>
>> Thanks Pete.I use full aiff files.
I use Itunes as my main Play back at home so i want the best sound I have
a pc the I riged with a emu 1404 through a bench mark. I dont buy song from
Itunes as I find it wrong to charge top dooler for files that are less in
quility than cd. j"Pete Ruthenburg"
Re: XP assertion errors still [message #62116 is a reply to message #62115] Fri, 30 December 2005 18:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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; <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> Just got a 60gig Ipod and I'm going to start importing my cd
>collection tonight.Just wondering which formats are used most and
>which bit rates.Seems like AAC might be the way to go.I could
>also see doing a mixture of AAC and Wavs or Apple Lossless.
> One thing that confused me;it says Apple Lossless gives you the
>same quality as AIFF and Wav,but is half the size.Can it really
>be the same quality in half the size?
>
> Anyway,this looks to be a really fun toy and putting mixes on
>it versus the whole cd burning thing will be quite cool.
>
>Happy Holidays,
>PeteYeah mp3s and the like truly do suck for sound. Those dumb kids are
wasting their money in my opinion.

Jpmoss wrote:
> I use full aiff files.
> I use Itunes as my main Play back at home so i want the best sound I have
> a pc the I riged with a emu 1404 through a bench mark. I dont buy song from
> Itunes as I find it wrong to charge top dooler for files that are less in
> quility than cd. j"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> Just got a 60gig Ipod and I'm going to start importing my cd
>>collection tonight.Just wondering which formats are used most and
>>which bit rates.Seems like AAC might be the way to go.I could
>>also see doing a mixture of AAC and Wavs or Apple Lossless.
>> One thing that confused me;it says Apple Lossless gives you the
>>same quality as AIFF and Wav,but is half the size.Can it really
>>be the same quality in half the size?
>>
>> Anyway,this looks to be a really fun toy and putting mixes on
>>it versus the whole cd burning thing will be quite cool.
>>
>>Happy Holidays,
>>Pete
>
>Gotta agree.I probably won't buy much from itunes.Just get the
cds and import.

Pete


"Jpmoss" <jp@ncounty.net> wrote:
>
> I use full aiff files.
> I use Itunes as my main Play back at home so i want the best sound I have
>a pc the I riged with a emu 1404 through a bench mark. I dont buy song from
>Itunes as I find it wrong to charge top dooler for files that are less in
>quility than cd. j"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>> Just got a 60gig Ipod and I'm going to start importing my cd
>>collection tonight.Just wondering which formats are used most and
>>which bit rates.Seems like AAC might be the way to go.I could
>>also see doing a mixture of AAC and Wavs or Apple Lossless.
>> One thing that confused me;it says Apple Lossless gives you the
>>same quality as AIFF and Wav,but is half the size.Can it really
>>be the same quality in half the size?
>>
>> Anyway,this looks to be a really fun toy and putting mixes on
>>it versus the whole cd burning thing will be quite cool.
>>
>>Happy Holidays,
>>Pete
>Hmmm.......never tried this because I don't normlly track to Cubase. Cool
feature though. I'll \have to give it a go.

;o)

"Martin Harrington" <

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ws:43b5d878@linux...
> > Martin,
> >
> > I'm thinking that since no one uses mixers anymore during tracking and
> > *riding the fader* really doesn't apply as far as boosting/attenuating
> > signal levels in DAW control surfaces like the C-16, the appropriate
> > terminology for this situation while tracking would be *riding the
> > pot*....and somehow that just doesn't seem a good thing to discuss in
> > polite
> > company so it's easier to just use a compressor.
> >
> > ;o)
> >
> > "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
> > news:43b5c2b5@linux...
> >> I know I'm going to sound like an "old fart" as Deej so eloquently put
it
> > a
> >> few posts back, but I see this a lot with "younger engineers" (sorry),
> > that
> >> weren't bought up with analogue.
> >> They are told that all you need to do is set an optimum level, and then
> > fix
> >> it in the mix.....Wrong...........
> >> You must always try and get the most amount of signal to tape, (disk),
> >> allowing for dynamics and song type of course.
> >> Riding record levels was one of the first things we were ever taught,
(I
> >> can't remember being taught it, but I know I was), because if you under
> >> recorded with tape, all you got was noise when you had to ride the
levels
> >> eventually in the mix, especially vocals.
> >> That's not to say we didn't limit or compress, but we still rode those
> >> levels.
> >> Rant off...thanks for reading.
> >> Cheers
> >> Martin Harrington
> >> www.lendanear-sound.com
> >>
> >> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:43b5b29a$1@linux...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > This is the approach I often take. Or at times, if there's just a
> >> > couple
> >> > of noticeable sections, I'll just do a volume change on the track
> > itself.
> >> > Simply cut the track boost up the low bit to match better with the
> >> > rest.
> >> > Often you'll find the performer only uses a couple of different
> >> > intensities
> >> > through the performance, so cutting at the change point(s) and adding
> >> > or
> >> > subtracting a few db can do the job.
> >> >
> >> > Cheers,
> >> > Kim.
> >> >
> >> > "Lance Reichert" <lance.rocks@nospam.verizon.net> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>John,
> >> >>
> >> >>Another option would be to cut the performance into separate chunks,
=
> >> >>spread them over a few tracks, then adjust the volume
> >> >>on the individual tracks so they match.
> >> >>
> >> >>Lance
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
> >> >>news:43b59383$1@linux...
> >> >> John,
> >> >> Besides automation I like to put two La2as in series. A Waves
ren/C1
> >> > =
&g
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