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New McCartney sucks totally [message #86438] Mon, 11 June 2007 05:05 Go to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]
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I'm reading reviews that think it's great (Memory almost full) but I listened
to it and I think it totally sucks. Any other opinions here?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19143873/site/newsweek/page/2/

I really just sat and listened to it and there is nothing on it the reminds
me of the great Venus and Mars or Speed of Sound, Pipes of Peace stuff that
I love. I really think the album just totally sucks. Others ???

Last night I was adding songs to my acoustic guitar set list and I added
"The other me". Those songs have great lyrical melodies and this album is
just terrible. grrrr
Re: New McCartney sucks totally [message #86439 is a reply to message #86438] Mon, 11 June 2007 05:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bill L is currently offline  Bill L   UNITED STATES
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I don't think it sucks. I like it. The intro on See Your Sunshine is
classic McCartney and very engaging.

John wrote:
> I'm reading reviews that think it's great (Memory almost full) but I listened
> to it and I think it totally sucks. Any other opinions here?
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19143873/site/newsweek/page/2/
>
> I really just sat and listened to it and there is nothing on it the reminds
> me of the great Venus and Mars or Speed of Sound, Pipes of Peace stuff that
> I love. I really think the album just totally sucks. Others ???
>
> Last night I was adding songs to my acoustic guitar set list and I added
> "The other me". Those songs have great lyrical melodies and this album is
> just terrible. grrrr
Re: New McCartney sucks totally [message #86440 is a reply to message #86439] Mon, 11 June 2007 06:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]
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It seems very homemade to me and doesn't seem to have any of the production
polish of the others. What is one song on it that has the quality of melody
that I'm used to in McCartney? Even the melodies seem missing. And that
NOD song seems just plain dumb.

Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>I don't think it sucks. I like it. The intro on See Your Sunshine is
>classic McCartney and very engaging.
>
>John wrote:
>> I'm reading reviews that think it's great (Memory almost full) but I listened
>> to it and I think it totally sucks. Any other opinions here?
>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19143873/site/newsweek/page/2/
>>
>> I really just sat and listened to it and there is nothing on it the reminds
>> me of the great Venus and Mars or Speed of Sound, Pipes of Peace stuff
that
>> I love. I really think the album just totally sucks. Others ???
>>
>> Last night I was adding songs to my acoustic guitar set list and I added
>> "The other me". Those songs have great lyrical melodies and this album
is
>> just terrible. grrrr
Re: New McCartney sucks totally [message #86442 is a reply to message #86440] Mon, 11 June 2007 06:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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I haven't heard the new one, but dude.... have you listened to the premise
of the 3 legged dog on RAM? That's pretty dumb. And yet, I find that I liked
it. Go figure

AA


"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:466d4fac$1@linux...
>
> It seems very homemade to me and doesn't seem to have any of the
> production
> polish of the others. What is one song on it that has the quality of
> melody
> that I'm used to in McCartney? Even the melodies seem missing. And that
> NOD song seems just plain dumb.
>
> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>I don't think it sucks. I like it. The intro on See Your Sunshine is
>>classic McCartney and very engaging.
>>
>>John wrote:
>>> I'm reading reviews that think it's great (Memory almost full) but I
>>> listened
>>> to it and I think it totally sucks. Any other opinions here?
>>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19143873/site/newsweek/page/2/
>>>
>>> I really just sat and listened to it and there is nothing on it the
>>> reminds
>>> me of the great Venus and Mars or Speed of Sound, Pipes of Peace stuff
> that
>>> I love. I really think the album just totally sucks. Others ???
>>>
>>> Last night I was adding songs to my acoustic guitar set list and I added
>>> "The other me". Those songs have great lyrical melodies and this album
> is
>>> just terrible. grrrr
>
Re: New McCartney sucks totally [message #86444 is a reply to message #86442] Mon, 11 June 2007 07:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]
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That song is nothing special either IMO. Doesn't compare with the stuff on
Band on the Run, Venus and Mars, Tug of War or Pipes of Peace. Great melodies,
great production, great playing there.

"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>I haven't heard the new one, but dude.... have you listened to the premise

>of the 3 legged dog on RAM? That's pretty dumb. And yet, I find that I liked

>it. Go figure
>
>AA
>
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:466d4fac$1@linux...
>>
>> It seems very homemade to me and doesn't seem to have any of the
>> production
>> polish of the others. What is one song on it that has the quality of

>> melody
>> that I'm used to in McCartney? Even the melodies seem missing. And that
>> NOD song seems just plain dumb.
>>
>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>I don't think it sucks. I like it. The intro on See Your Sunshine is
>>>classic McCartney and very engaging.
>>>
>>>John wrote:
>>>> I'm reading reviews that think it's great (Memory almost full) but I

>>>> listened
>>>> to it and I think it totally sucks. Any other opinions here?
>>>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19143873/site/newsweek/page/2/
>>>>
>>>> I really just sat and listened to it and there is nothing on it the

>>>> reminds
>>>> me of the great Venus and Mars or Speed of Sound, Pipes of Peace stuff
>> that
>>>> I love. I really think the album just totally sucks. Others ???
>>>>
>>>> Last night I was adding songs to my acoustic guitar set list and I added
>>>> "The other me". Those songs have great lyrical melodies and this album
>> is
>>>> just terrible. grrrr
>>
>
>
Re: New McCartney sucks totally [message #86471 is a reply to message #86444] Mon, 11 June 2007 17:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sarah is currently offline  Sarah   UNITED STATES
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Call me crazy (well, no, don't bother) but my favorite post-Beatles
McCartney was Ram. Don't know why. Could just be herb-related nostalgia,
but come on . . . "Too Many People," "3Legs," "Dear Boy," "Heart of the
Country"? Great stuff. :)

S


"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:466d55aa$1@linux...
>
> That song is nothing special either IMO. Doesn't compare with the stuff
> on
> Band on the Run, Venus and Mars, Tug of War or Pipes of Peace. Great
> melodies,
> great production, great playing there.
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>I haven't heard the new one, but dude.... have you listened to the premise
>
>>of the 3 legged dog on RAM? That's pretty dumb. And yet, I find that I
>>liked
>
>>it. Go figure
>>
>>AA
>>
>>
>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:466d4fac$1@linux...
>>>
>>> It seems very homemade to me and doesn't seem to have any of the
>>> production
>>> polish of the others. What is one song on it that has the quality of
>
>>> melody
>>> that I'm used to in McCartney? Even the melodies seem missing. And
>>> that
>>> NOD song seems just plain dumb.
>>>
>>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>>I don't think it sucks. I like it. The intro on See Your Sunshine is
>>>>classic McCartney and very engaging.
>>>>
>>>>John wrote:
>>>>> I'm reading reviews that think it's great (Memory almost full) but I
>
>>>>> listened
>>>>> to it and I think it totally sucks. Any other opinions here?
>>>>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19143873/site/newsweek/page/2/
>>>>>
>>>>> I really just sat and listened to it and there is nothing on it the
>
>>>>> reminds
>>>>> me of the great Venus and Mars or Speed of Sound, Pipes of Peace stuff
>>> that
>>>>> I love. I really think the album just totally sucks. Others ???
>>>>>
>>>>> Last night I was adding songs to my acoustic guitar set list and I
>>>>> added
>>>>> "The other me". Those songs have great lyrical melodies and this
>>>>> album
>>> is
>>>>> just terrible. grrrr
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: New McCartney sucks totally [message #86475 is a reply to message #86471] Mon, 11 June 2007 22:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
chuck duffy is currently offline  chuck duffy
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Great album. You are not crazy. I have listened to that album at least five
million times. The thing most people forget is that it is billed as PAUL
AND LINDA MCCARTNEY! :-)

Anywhoo, unlike John... I find it impossible to use the words McCartney and
sucks in the same sentence.

I love the fact that everybody likes what they like. The titles John raised
as examples of what he thinks is great is the shit the critics rate on the
bottom of the macca pile. Pipes of peace for gods sake :-)

Go figure

Chuck
"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>Call me crazy (well, no, don't bother) but my favorite post-Beatles
>McCartney was Ram. Don't know why. Could just be herb-related nostalgia,

>but come on . . . "Too Many People," "3Legs," "Dear Boy," "Heart of the

>Country"? Great stuff. :)
>
>S
>
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:466d55aa$1@linux...
>>
>> That song is nothing special either IMO. Doesn't compare with the stuff

>> on
>> Band on the Run, Venus and Mars, Tug of War or Pipes of Peace. Great

>> melodies,
>> great production, great playing there.
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>I haven't heard the new one, but dude.... have you listened to the premise
>>
>>>of the 3 legged dog on RAM? That's pretty dumb. And yet, I find that I

>>>liked
>>
>>>it. Go figure
>>>
>>>AA
>>>
>>>
>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:466d4fac$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> It seems very homemade to me and doesn't seem to have any of the
>>>> production
>>>> polish of the others. What is one song on it that has the quality of
>>
>>>> melody
>>>> that I'm used to in McCartney? Even the melodies seem missing. And

>>>> that
>>>> NOD song seems just plain dumb.
>>>>
>>>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>>>I don't think it sucks. I like it. The intro on See Your Sunshine is
>>>>>classic McCartney and very engaging.
>>>>>
>>>>>John wrote:
>>>>>> I'm reading reviews that think it's great (Memory almost full) but
I
>>
>>>>>> listened
>>>>>> to it and I think it totally sucks. Any other opinions here?
>>>>>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19143873/site/newsweek/page/2/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I really just sat and listened to it and there is nothing on it the
>>
>>>>>> reminds
>>>>>> me of the great Venus and Mars or Speed of Sound, Pipes of Peace stuff
>>>> that
>>>>>> I love. I really think the album just totally sucks. Others ???
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Last night I was adding songs to my acoustic guitar set list and I

>>>>>> added
>>>>>> "The other me". Those songs have great lyrical melodies and this

>>>>>> album
>>>> is
>>>>>> just terrible. grrrr
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Re: New McCartney sucks totally [message #86476 is a reply to message #86444] Mon, 11 June 2007 23:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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Back to the Egg, baby...

AA


"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:466d55aa$1@linux...
>
> That song is nothing special either IMO. Doesn't compare with the stuff
> on
> Band on the Run, Venus and Mars, Tug of War or Pipes of Peace. Great
> melodies,
> great production, great playing there.
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>I haven't heard the new one, but dude.... have you listened to the premise
>
>>of the 3 legged dog on RAM? That's pretty dumb. And yet, I find that I
>>liked
>
>>it. Go figure
>>
>>AA
>>
>>
>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:466d4fac$1@linux...
>>>
>>> It seems very homemade to me and doesn't seem to have any of the
>>> production
>>> polish of the others. What is one song on it that has the quality of
>
>>> melody
>>> that I'm used to in McCartney? Even the melodies seem missing. And
>>> that
>>> NOD song seems just plain dumb.
>>>
>>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>>I don't think it sucks. I like it. The intro on See Your Sunshine is
>>>>classic McCartney and very engaging.
>>>>
>>>>John wrote:
>>>>> I'm reading reviews that think it's great (Memory almost full) but I
>
>>>>> listened
>>>>> to it and I think it totally sucks. Any other opinions here?
>>>>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19143873/site/newsweek/page/2/
>>>>>
>>>>> I really just sat and listened to it and there is nothing on it the
>
>>>>> reminds
>>>>> me of the great Venus and Mars or Speed of Sound, Pipes of Peace stuff
>>> that
>>>>> I love. I really think the album just totally sucks. Others ???
>>>>>
>>>>> Last night I was adding songs to my acoustic guitar set list and I
>>>>> added
>>>>> "The other me". Those songs have great lyrical melodies and this
>>>>> album
>>> is
>>>>> just terrible. grrrr
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: New McCartney sucks totally [message #86483 is a reply to message #86476] Tue, 12 June 2007 04:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]
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That's what I'm talking about ! This new stuff is not even close. Spin
it on !


"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>Back to the Egg, baby...
>
>AA
>
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:466d55aa$1@linux...
>>
>> That song is nothing special either IMO. Doesn't compare with the stuff

>> on
>> Band on the Run, Venus and Mars, Tug of War or Pipes of Peace. Great

>> melodies,
>> great production, great playing there.
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>I haven't heard the new one, but dude.... have you listened to the premise
>>
>>>of the 3 legged dog on RAM? That's pretty dumb. And yet, I find that I

>>>liked
>>
>>>it. Go figure
>>>
>>>AA
>>>
>>>
>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:466d4fac$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> It seems very homemade to me and doesn't seem to have any of the
>>>> production
>>>> polish of the others. What is one song on it that has the quality of
>>
>>>> melody
>>>> that I'm used to in McCartney? Even the melodies seem missing. And

>>>> that
>>>> NOD song seems just plain dumb.
>>>>
>>>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>>>I don't think it sucks. I like it. The intro on See Your Sunshine is
>>>>>classic McCartney and very engaging.
>>>>>
>>>>>John wrote:
>>>>>> I'm reading reviews that think it's great (Memory almost full) but
I
>>
>>>>>> listened
>>>>>> to it and I think it totally sucks. Any other opinions here?
>>>>>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19143873/site/newsweek/page/2/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I really just sat and listened to it and there is nothing on it the
>>
>>>>>> reminds
>>>>>> me of the great Venus and Mars or Speed of Sound, Pipes of Peace stuff
>>>> that
>>>>>> I love. I really think the album just totally sucks. Others ???
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Last night I was adding songs to my acoustic guitar set list and I

>>>>>> added
>>>>>> "The other me". Those songs have great lyrical melodies and this

>>>>>> album
>>>> is
>>>>>> just terrible. grrrr
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Re: New McCartney sucks totally [message #86484 is a reply to message #86471] Tue, 12 June 2007 04:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]
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You're not crazy, that IS a great album and I was listening to it just the
other day. My favorite is the scat in heart of the country. I play it
over and over and try to sing it but it's fantastically hard. I notice none
of the lyrics sites attempted them. haha

Love it !
Re: New McCartney sucks totally [message #86485 is a reply to message #86475] Tue, 12 June 2007 04:53 Go to previous message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]
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Yeah critics are often clueless. I've on lots of road trips and these songs
are great singalong in the car songs. This album is very good in my ears.

Regarding Pipes of Peace:

1. Pipes Of Peace love it
2. Say Say Say love it
3. The Other Me just added it to my acoustic guitar set
4. Keep Under Cover great melody
5. So Bad beautiful beautiful song
6. The Man fantastic
7. Sweetest Little Show great harmonies
8. Average Person can you imagine the first one you'll meet
9. Hey Hey love this instrumental
10. Tug Of Peace ok, so not that great
11. Through Our Love another very nice ballad

FYI, I'm also a huge WHO fan and I think the latest Who album is total junk.
Go figure.
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