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WORMHOLE-WORKING_GREAT_READY2BUY [message #59537] Tue, 25 October 2005 07:18 Go to next message
Dimitrios is currently offline  Dimitrios   
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Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
> > > > >>>>> >>Rod, I'm fairly sure you'll have to send the transport
> commands
> > > via
> > > > >>>>midi/
> > > > >>>>> >
> > > > >>>>> >>MTC and the sample sync commands via adat card... at least
> I've
> > > always
> > > > >>>>> had
> > > > >>>>> >
> > > > >>>>> >>to on external sync'd transports.
> > > > >>>>> >>
> > > > >>>>> >>AA
> > > > >>>>> >>
> > > > >>>>> >>
> > > > >>>>> >>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > >>>>news:435c7ec8$1@linux...
> > > > >>>>> >>>
> > > > >>>>> >>> Deej, I've look for some old post I thought I saved from
> when
> > > you
> > > > >>> went
> > > > >>>>> >
> > > > >>>>> >>> through
> > > > >>>>> >>> this, but I can't find them, so, please forgive, but I
need
> > your
> > > > >
> > > > >>>>> >>> help.
> > > > >>>&
Re: WORMHOLE-WORKING_GREAT_READY2BUY [message #59551 is a reply to message #59537] Tue, 25 October 2005 09:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Don Nafe is currently offline  Don Nafe   UNITED STATES
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-1 cards and the
> > > > Hammerfall cards.. Since I am only using 3 x EDS cards, I have
managed
> > to
> > > do
> > > > this in my Paris computer PCI slots with no problems. I have used an
> > > > expansion chassis with EDS cards also so you should be just fine
using
> > it
> > > > with Paris. Just find a mobo slot that doesn't6 share IRQ withother
> > > critical
> > > > devices.........and be sure to get a Magma. I tried using an SBS
> > expansion
> > > > chassis. It wasn't the best choice for use with audio because for
some
> > > > reason, IRQ's were very limited.
> > > >
> > > > Deej
> > > >
> > > > "Suad" <suad@sail.hr> wrote in message news:435dcf20@linux...
> > > > > Hmmm..., yes I did some search and found 1000 threads about
this...
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, I'll borrow some ADATcard's, EDS and MEC's from my friend
> > > > > and I'll make some workaround.... Maybe I'll find THE solution...
> > > > > I will post results.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hey Deej, do you use Magma expansion?
> > > > > I'll have to purchase one soon. (P7NE oem)
> > > > > Any sugestions or issues?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > Suad
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:435dc063@linux...
> > > > > > Some are luckier than others. I have been able to get 4 x ADAT
> cards
> > > > > working
> > > > > > in 3 x MECs using XP, but no more. Most have been able to just
get
> > one
> > > > > > working per MEC. No problem with 2 x per MEC when running Win
ME.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
Re: WORMHOLE-WORKING_GREAT_READY2BUY [message #59560 is a reply to message #59551] Tue, 25 October 2005 14:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Brandon is currently offline  Brandon   UNITED STATES
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. Must have AGP and normal PCI
>
> Thanks.
>
> David.I think he should not only set up a duplicate server, but also have another
one as a redundant backup powered from a UPS capable of at least full on
operation for one year with a gas generator fuelled by a 10,000 underground
fuel tank housed in a concrete missle silo just in case. Only then will I be
able to rest easy. I'm already getting unsettled about this. Anybody got a
Valium?



"EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
news:435ead5f@linux...
> Why don't you just build a duplicate server and get it set up in the
> new place before you pull the plug on the old one. That way, there
> will be no interruption, and I won't have to to go therapy! ;-)
>
> David.
>
> Happy moving!
>
> Kim wrote:
>
> > Just a little heads up to let you all know that I'm moving house over
this
> > coming weekend. Temporarily the newsgroup will remain at the old place
until
> > I can get the internet connected and working at the new place. Once
that's
> > done I'll move the newsgroup computers. I expect that to happen probaly
not
> > this weekend but next, and it will cause some outages and issues as the
DNS
> > records update etc. An IP address of the new location will be posted
here
> > and on ParisFAQs in advance of the move however, so people will still be
> > able to use the group pretty much excepting of course for the bit when
it's
> > actually in the car moving house. ;o)
> >
> > I'll keep you all informed.
> >
> > And now, back to our regular programming... ;o)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Kim.Hehe. Well in fact I actually DO HAVE a duplicate server, which I switch
on every couple of weeks to back up the posts in case the main server goes
down. I had considered doing what you're suggesting, but the main issue with
that is that there are discrepencies in the post numbers between the two
servers, hence if people are using NNTP their systems will go a bit chaotic,
and maybe download some posts twice and others not at all, and get confused
about which post is part of which thread etc.

Though what I actually could do now that I think of it is switch of NNTP
and force the system to web use only for the duration. I'll have a think
about it, but I imagine I might be able to actually do that.

I'm pretty sure you were only kidding, but hey if I can do it why not. ;o)

Cheers,
Kim.

EK Sound <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote:
>Why don't you just build a duplicate server and get
Re: WORMHOLE-WORKING_GREAT_READY2BUY [message #59571 is a reply to message #59560] Tue, 25 October 2005 20:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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r /> > >>Of course I don't!
> >>word clock, midi etc are creations of the devil that I have no knowledge
> >>of in my little retro, technophobe world : )
> >>
> >>so, will a single BNC across MEC's solve this issue or is there some
> >
Re: WORMHOLE-WORKING_GREAT_READY2BUY [message #59577 is a reply to message #59551] Wed, 26 October 2005 00:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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it.
>This guy was so helpful afterall.
>This great app opens new doors to Paris.
>I managed no problem FULLY SYNCED 16 audio tracks comong from Cubase (2nd
>computer) to Paris (1st computer) with solid rock performance and behaviour.
>The secret is "old"
>Use this incredible and free now ( I guess we freed it,right ?) FXpansion
>3.3 this old trusty wrapper that wraps with very big latency UAD1 plugins
>but works fantastic with Multifxvst and now WORMHOLE.
>Chianer could not do it, FFX-4 neither, Console could but console is so
buggy
>and unstable with Paris that causes even exceptions so I stayed away from
>it...
>I tried all chainers known, like Directizer, Cakewalk, all...
>Nothing worked even at normal conditions but FXpansion does the trick.
>It syncs end instances which was the problem from the very beginning...
>This syncing damn thing.
>Well 16 instances eats around 60 % of my 2600 Intel cpu but that is not
Paris
>oriented .
>Latency to work at so many instances shpuld be around 4096 samples , close
>to uad1 latencies, for a couple of channels you can go down to a little
over
>1000 samples.
>There is a latency slider also on sending wormhole instance so you can compensate
>there...
>But this is a godesnd for someone who wants to do entirely Cubase mix and
>buss 16-24 audio tracks to Paris for buss mixing...
>Possibilities endless.
>
>I wanna see names here from you ones who are gonna buy it because I wanna
>send these names to Andrian to thank him for all his efforts.
>My name is first (buying for second time)
>
>DimitriosJust a heads up on this fee eq. It will eat your computer for lunch but it
sounds VERY high-end. I have not tried it in Paris yet. This could be a great
choice for “In house mastering” if you have the horsepower.
http://refinedaudiometrics.com/pages/14/index.htmI'm still having problems with this!
I bought 2 160 gig drives, formatted them ntfs, moved everything off the
suspect drives and backed up.
I then put one of the new drives in the cubase comp (it contained the ghost
image for the cubase system) and booted the cubase comp from a floppy containing
ghost. It didn't show up at all. I put it back in the Paris comp and it was
totally nuked! UNfrigg'n formatted!
Under the "Disk Management" in XP (Paris comp) it showed up as 20 gig healthy
and 140 gig unallocated. This is EXACTLY what it was doing to my other drives...it
always changed them to show up as 20 gig drives, no matter what they were.

I don't think this is a Fat32 being corrupted by XP issue. Something else
is going on, but what???
RodOnce again thanks for your excellent work Dimitrios...

Don


"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:435f9474$1@linux...
>
> So here an update to Wormhole.
> First of all it is f... stable.
> Second I am hooked.
> Third I tried 24 channels from Cunbase to Paris with humble 100Mb Lan
> connection
> using around 75 (peaks) of a cpu 2600 P4 Intel.
> Fully synced means that -because of Paris sample difference beetween
Re: WORMHOLE-WORKING_GREAT_READY2BUY [message #59582 is a reply to message #59537] Wed, 26 October 2005 07:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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t. It didn't show up at all. I put it back in the Paris comp and it was
> totally nuked! UNfrigg'n formatted!
> Under the "Disk Management" in XP (Paris comp) it showed up as 20 gig healthy
> and 140 gig unallocated. This is EXACTLY what it was doing to my other drives...it
> always changed them to show up as 20 gig drives, no matter what they were.
>
> I don't think this is a Fat32 being corrupted by XP issue. Something else
> is going on, but what???
> RodEK Sound <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote:
>Did you set the drive up for NTFS using "Computer Management"?

Yes
Did you select primary or extended? Primary should be what you need. Yes
Primary
Did
>you quick format or normal?

Normal
Does the MB in the Paris machine support
>that drive size directly?

Yes
>
>David.
>
>Rod Lincoln wrote:
>> I'm still having problems with this!
>> I bought 2 160 gig drives, formatted them ntfs, moved everything off the
>> suspect drives and backed up.
>> I then put one of the new drives in the cubase comp (it contained the
ghost
>> image for the cubase system) and booted the cubase comp from a floppy
containing
>> ghost. It didn't show up at all. I put it back in the Paris comp and it
was
>> totally nuked! UNfrigg'n formatted!
>> Under the "Disk Management" in XP (Paris comp) it showed up as 20 gig
healthy
>> and 140 gig unallocated. This is EXACTLY what it was doing to my other
drives...it
>> always changed them to show up as 20 gig drives, no matter what they were.
>>
>> I don't think this is a Fat32 being corrupted by XP issue. Something else
>> is going on, but what???
>> RodDo you have the same MB in both machines or are they different? Check
to see if you are running the latest Bios version also. I typically
let the HD's run for a nour before I mount and format. This gets the
platters up to temp where they won't expand much. Maxtor/Quantum had
software built into the drives for thermal compensation, but I found
it to be more of a problem than a help.

Which drives are these BTW?

David.

Rod Lincoln wrote:

> EK Sound <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote:
>
>>Did you set the drive up for NTFS using "Computer Management"?
>
>
> Yes
> Did you select primary or extended? Primary should be what you need. Yes
> Primary
> Did
>
>>you quick format or normal?
>
>
> Normal
> Does the MB in the Paris machine support
>
>>that drive size directly?
>
>
> Yes
>
>>David.
>>
>>Rod Lincoln wrote:
>>FXpansion 3.3 Where can I get it?
I have a demo version I got a while back.




"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:435ff884$1@linux...
> Once again thanks for your excellent work Dimitrios...
>
> Don
>
>
> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:435f9474$<
Re: WORMHOLE-WORKING_GREAT_READY2BUY [message #59585 is a reply to message #59582] Wed, 26 October 2005 14:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Don Nafe is currently offline  Don Nafe   UNITED STATES
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nly for mixing engine
>> plus
>> EDS effects and EQ
>> Isn't that wonderful ?
>> Thats around what BrianT was trying to do with his multi thouisand dollar
>> setup of his.
>> Ok 24 channels might be not much but if you have a process or over 3 ghz
>> and maybe a 1000 lan I see no reason why not get over 32 and maybe 48.
>> This is a trip to the future along with Paris , right ?
>> Note that the files in Cubase in my test were 32 bit floating !
>> wormhole is 32 bit floating so inside Paris audio is coming at 32bit
>> floating
>> ..
>> After that point I don't know if "the song remains the same" but Paris
>> might
>> NOT truncate to 24 bit, someobode else might say for sure here...
>> Thats for now,
>> Regards,
>> Dimitrios
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>>
>>>So here we are.
>>>It was that simple afterall to have wormhole work with Paris !
>>>No special wormhole version needed, just use the latest when you buy it
>> !
>>>And please go on and buy it.
>>>This guy was so helpful afterall.
>>>This great app opens new doors to Paris.
>>>I managed no problem FULLY SYNCED 16 audio tracks comong from Cubase (2nd
>>>computer) to Paris (1st computer) with solid rock performance and
>>>behaviour.
>>>The secret is "old"
>>>Use this incredible and free now ( I guess we freed it,right ?) FXpansion
>>>3.3 this old trusty wrapper that wraps with very big latency UAD1 plugins
>>>but works fantastic with Multifxvst and now WORMHOLE.
>>>Chianer could not do it, FFX-4 neither, Console could but console is so
>> buggy
>>>and unstable with Paris that causes even exceptions so I stayed away
>>>from
>>>it...
>>>I tried all chainers known, like Directizer, Cakewalk, all...
>>>Nothing worked even at normal conditions but FXpansion does the trick.
>>>It syncs end instances which was the problem from the very beginning...
>>>This syncing damn thing.
>>>Well 16 instances eats around 60 % of my 2600 Intel cpu but that is not
>> Paris
>>>oriented .
>>>Latency to work at so many instances shpuld be around 4096 samples ,
>>>close
>>>to uad1 latencies, for a couple of channels you can go down to a little
>> over
>>>1000 samples.
>>>There is a latency slider also on sending wormhole instance so you can
>>>compensate
>>>there...
>>>But this is a godesnd for someone who wants to do entirely Cubase mix and
>>>buss 16-24 audio tracks to Paris for buss mixing...
>>>Possibilities endless.
>>>
>>>I wanna see names here from you ones who are gonna buy it because I wanna
>>>send these names to Andrian to thank him for all his efforts.
>>>My name is first (buying for second time)
>>>
>>>Dimitrios
>>
>
>EK Sound <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote:
>Do you have the same MB in both machines or are they different?
No...Paris comp has Asus A7S333, Cubase comp has Gigabyte K8 Triton. This
a new development. It's been working great for a year.

Check
>to see if you are running the latest Bios version also.
This IS something that changed recently. When I upgraded to Cubase SX3 and
a RME 9652 earlier this week, I also updated the Bios via the net, at gigabyte's
websight.


I typically
>let the HD's run for a nour before I mount and format. This gets the
>platters up to temp where they won't expand much. Maxtor/Quantum had
>software built into the drives for thermal compensation, but I found
>it to be more of a problem than a help.
>
>Which drives are these BTW?

Re: WORMHOLE-WORKING_GREAT_READY2BUY [message #59589 is a reply to message #59585] Wed, 26 October 2005 15:28 Go to previous message
Brandon is currently offline  Brandon   UNITED STATES
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and the
>>Q set about 3/4 of the way down the scale, gain at about +16,
>>and the /stereo/middle/mono setting set ot "middle" for a really
>>interesting effect.
>>
>>Neil
>>
>I’ve been using it in WaveLab. Can’t get past Q4 without issues, but at
Q4
>I am getting some great results.

Really? Weird... I got it to work just fine at Q5 on a 35-track
CubaseSX project, all tracks at 24-bit 88.2k, with at least a
dozen or so plugins to boot; using the EQ inserted in the
master mixer section. When I tried it on a 37-track project
that had a bunch more plugins (prolly over 20 various plugins -
I'd have to check), it bogged my system down, though.

>On some things this is killing my Sony Oxford
>EQ.
>I wish I had a Weiss Double Sampling EQ, around to A/B it with.
>I wish I had a Weiss Double Sampling EQ, around anyway!

I would bet if you could run 2 or 3 of these EQ's in parallel
on a mastering project (in order to apply it to different freq
bands), it could be VERY cool.

NeilYes. Get the balance like you like it, then stripe it to one track.

CL

"cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote in message
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>
> Pretty easy and common to do during mixing using another track in Paris
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"Chris Latham" <latham_c@bellsouth.net> wrote in message =
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Yes. Get the balance like you like it, then stripe it to one track.

CL

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