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Thu, 07 August 2008 09:47  |
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Hi all. The plans for my current PARIS-based DAW system weren't *really*
supposed to kick into gear until I opened the studio doors in January. But
given all of Mike's progress I'm champing at the bit to make the jump now,
to install PARIS on a PC - even a rudimentary, low-cost PC - and worry about
a final rig later after the inevitable studio setup costs are sorted out. I
can transfer the PC experience I've gained directly into decisions about a
new rig later.
Which brings me to this ad in my local Craigslist - what do you think for
$150?
17" LG studioworks E700B CRT Monitor
17" 777B Case W/400W
LG 16DVD/32x10x40 Combo
AMD Athlon 2200XP (1.83Mghz)
1GB DDR400 PC3200
64MB MSI GeForce4 MX440 w/TVout
asus A7N8X nvidia nforce 2 ultra 400
seagate 250GB HD 7200RPM 8MB Buffer
labtec pc webcam
1.44 floppy drive
[I know I'd put in a beefier PSU right away, and sooner or later replace the
video card with a dual-head of some description. I'd eventually get rid of
the monitor, get a dual-head KVM switcher (ironically even the cheapest
dual-head switchers seem to cost more than this computer) and share my Mac's
keyboard, mouse and twin 19" LCDs so both can be accessed with a
button-push.]
So is this a sensible low-cost way get me up and running, and in the PARIS
PC game?
- Kerry
"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
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| Re: Taking the plunge into PC PARIS - request for advice [message #99965 is a reply to message #99963] |
Thu, 07 August 2008 10:04  |
Mike Audet
Messages: 294
Registered: December 2008
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Hi Kerry,
My only suggestion is that Windows XP's file caching system is flawed and
works a lot better with 1.5 GB+ of RAM. It's designed for file serving,
and it will cache files using up to 1GB of RAM, even if it means swapping
out program code (like the PARIS app) to do it. I found PARIS bogged down
because of this after a little while of use. At 2GB, it's not a problem.
I hope this helps.
Mike
Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>Hi all. The plans for my current PARIS-based DAW system weren't *really*
>supposed to kick into gear until I opened the studio doors in January. But
>given all of Mike's progress I'm champing at the bit to make the jump now,
>to install PARIS on a PC - even a rudimentary, low-cost PC - and worry about
>a final rig later after the inevitable studio setup costs are sorted out.
I
>can transfer the PC experience I've gained directly into decisions about
a
>new rig later.
>
>Which brings me to this ad in my local Craigslist - what do you think for
>$150?
>
>17" LG studioworks E700B CRT Monitor
>17" 777B Case W/400W
>LG 16DVD/32x10x40 Combo
>AMD Athlon 2200XP (1.83Mghz)
>1GB DDR400 PC3200
>64MB MSI GeForce4 MX440 w/TVout
>asus A7N8X nvidia nforce 2 ultra 400
>seagate 250GB HD 7200RPM 8MB Buffer
>labtec pc webcam
>1.44 floppy drive
>
>[I know I'd put in a beefier PSU right away, and sooner or later replace
the
>video card with a dual-head of some description. I'd eventually get rid
of
>the monitor, get a dual-head KVM switcher (ironically even the cheapest
>dual-head switchers seem to cost more than this computer) and share my Mac's
>keyboard, mouse and twin 19" LCDs so both can be accessed with a
>button-push.]
>
>So is this a sensible low-cost way get me up and running, and in the PARIS
>PC game?
>
>- Kerry
>
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| Re: Taking the plunge into PC PARIS - request for advice [message #99966 is a reply to message #99965] |
Thu, 07 August 2008 10:10 |
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Perfect, at least means this means I've got little enough RAM to buy - I'll
stick another gig in there. Thanks!
- K
On 8/7/08 10:04 AM, in article 489b2b23$1@linux, "Mike Audet" <mike@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Kerry,
>
> My only suggestion is that Windows XP's file caching system is flawed and
> works a lot better with 1.5 GB+ of RAM. It's designed for file serving,
> and it will cache files using up to 1GB of RAM, even if it means swapping
> out program code (like the PARIS app) to do it. I found PARIS bogged down
> because of this after a little while of use. At 2GB, it's not a problem.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>> Hi all. The plans for my current PARIS-based DAW system weren't *really*
>> supposed to kick into gear until I opened the studio doors in January. But
>> given all of Mike's progress I'm champing at the bit to make the jump now,
>> to install PARIS on a PC - even a rudimentary, low-cost PC - and worry about
>> a final rig later after the inevitable studio setup costs are sorted out.
> I
>> can transfer the PC experience I've gained directly into decisions about
> a
>> new rig later.
>>
>> Which brings me to this ad in my local Craigslist - what do you think for
>> $150?
>>
>> 17" LG studioworks E700B CRT Monitor
>> 17" 777B Case W/400W
>> LG 16DVD/32x10x40 Combo
>> AMD Athlon 2200XP (1.83Mghz)
>> 1GB DDR400 PC3200
>> 64MB MSI GeForce4 MX440 w/TVout
>> asus A7N8X nvidia nforce 2 ultra 400
>> seagate 250GB HD 7200RPM 8MB Buffer
>> labtec pc webcam
>> 1.44 floppy drive
>>
>> [I know I'd put in a beefier PSU right away, and sooner or later replace
> the
>> video card with a dual-head of some description. I'd eventually get rid
> of
>> the monitor, get a dual-head KVM switcher (ironically even the cheapest
>> dual-head switchers seem to cost more than this computer) and share my Mac's
>> keyboard, mouse and twin 19" LCDs so both can be accessed with a
>> button-push.]
>>
>> So is this a sensible low-cost way get me up and running, and in the PARIS
>> PC game?
>>
>> - Kerry
>>
>
"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
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| Re: Taking the plunge into PC PARIS - request for advice [message #99967 is a reply to message #99966] |
Thu, 07 August 2008 10:45 |
Chris Ludwig
Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006
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HI Kerry,
You also need to make sure that you by the ram in pairs so that ram operates in dual channel mode.
So 2x 1 gig DDR400 PC3200 ram is what you will need.
Chris
Kerry Galloway wrote:
> Perfect, at least means this means I've got little enough RAM to buy - I'll
> stick another gig in there. Thanks!
>
> - K
>
>
> On 8/7/08 10:04 AM, in article 489b2b23$1@linux, "Mike Audet" <mike@...>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Kerry,
>>
>> My only suggestion is that Windows XP's file caching system is flawed and
>> works a lot better with 1.5 GB+ of RAM. It's designed for file serving,
>> and it will cache files using up to 1GB of RAM, even if it means swapping
>> out program code (like the PARIS app) to do it. I found PARIS bogged down
>> because of this after a little while of use. At 2GB, it's not a problem.
>>
>> I hope this helps.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
>> Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>>> Hi all. The plans for my current PARIS-based DAW system weren't *really*
>>> supposed to kick into gear until I opened the studio doors in January. But
>>> given all of Mike's progress I'm champing at the bit to make the jump now,
>>> to install PARIS on a PC - even a rudimentary, low-cost PC - and worry about
>>> a final rig later after the inevitable studio setup costs are sorted out.
>> I
>>> can transfer the PC experience I've gained directly into decisions about
>> a
>>> new rig later.
>>>
>>> Which brings me to this ad in my local Craigslist - what do you think for
>>> $150?
>>>
>>> 17" LG studioworks E700B CRT Monitor
>>> 17" 777B Case W/400W
>>> LG 16DVD/32x10x40 Combo
>>> AMD Athlon 2200XP (1.83Mghz)
>>> 1GB DDR400 PC3200
>>> 64MB MSI GeForce4 MX440 w/TVout
>>> asus A7N8X nvidia nforce 2 ultra 400
>>> seagate 250GB HD 7200RPM 8MB Buffer
>>> labtec pc webcam
>>> 1.44 floppy drive
>>>
>>> [I know I'd put in a beefier PSU right away, and sooner or later replace
>> the
>>> video card with a dual-head of some description. I'd eventually get rid
>> of
>>> the monitor, get a dual-head KVM switcher (ironically even the cheapest
>>> dual-head switchers seem to cost more than this computer) and share my Mac's
>>> keyboard, mouse and twin 19" LCDs so both can be accessed with a
>>> button-push.]
>>>
>>> So is this a sensible low-cost way get me up and running, and in the PARIS
>>> PC game?
>>>
>>> - Kerry
>>>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.com
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| Re: Taking the plunge into PC PARIS - request for advice [message #99968 is a reply to message #99963] |
Thu, 07 August 2008 11:50 |
Edna Sloan
Messages: 304
Registered: October 2005
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Senior Member |
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Kerry,
This is essentially what I am running, with a widescreen Geforce dual video
card, 2GB of memory and second DVI monitor on PARIS 3. It works great with
the one EDS card system I have.
Edna
"Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
news:C4C0754F.B555%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
> Hi all. The plans for my current PARIS-based DAW system weren't *really*
> supposed to kick into gear until I opened the studio doors in January. But
> given all of Mike's progress I'm champing at the bit to make the jump now,
> to install PARIS on a PC - even a rudimentary, low-cost PC - and worry
> about
> a final rig later after the inevitable studio setup costs are sorted out.
> I
> can transfer the PC experience I've gained directly into decisions about a
> new rig later.
>
> Which brings me to this ad in my local Craigslist - what do you think for
> $150?
>
> 17" LG studioworks E700B CRT Monitor
> 17" 777B Case W/400W
> LG 16DVD/32x10x40 Combo
> AMD Athlon 2200XP (1.83Mghz)
> 1GB DDR400 PC3200
> 64MB MSI GeForce4 MX440 w/TVout
> asus A7N8X nvidia nforce 2 ultra 400
> seagate 250GB HD 7200RPM 8MB Buffer
> labtec pc webcam
> 1.44 floppy drive
>
> [I know I'd put in a beefier PSU right away, and sooner or later replace
> the
> video card with a dual-head of some description. I'd eventually get rid of
> the monitor, get a dual-head KVM switcher (ironically even the cheapest
> dual-head switchers seem to cost more than this computer) and share my
> Mac's
> keyboard, mouse and twin 19" LCDs so both can be accessed with a
> button-push.]
>
> So is this a sensible low-cost way get me up and running, and in the PARIS
> PC game?
>
> - Kerry
>
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| Re: Taking the plunge into PC PARIS - request for advice [message #99969 is a reply to message #99967] |
Thu, 07 August 2008 11:58 |
Edna Sloan
Messages: 304
Registered: October 2005
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Senior Member |
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Chris,
I may be way off, but Won't this (2x1G DC mode) only be an effective, though
faster, one Gig memory?
Edna
"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:489b368a@linux...
> HI Kerry,
> You also need to make sure that you by the ram in pairs so that ram
> operates in dual channel mode.
> So 2x 1 gig DDR400 PC3200 ram is what you will need.
>
>
> Chris
>
>
> Kerry Galloway wrote:
>> Perfect, at least means this means I've got little enough RAM to buy -
>> I'll
>> stick another gig in there. Thanks!
>>
>> - K
>>
>>
>> On 8/7/08 10:04 AM, in article 489b2b23$1@linux, "Mike Audet" <mike@...>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Kerry,
>>>
>>> My only suggestion is that Windows XP's file caching system is flawed
>>> and
>>> works a lot better with 1.5 GB+ of RAM. It's designed for file serving,
>>> and it will cache files using up to 1GB of RAM, even if it means
>>> swapping
>>> out program code (like the PARIS app) to do it. I found PARIS bogged
>>> down
>>> because of this after a little while of use. At 2GB, it's not a
>>> problem.
>>>
>>> I hope this helps.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi all. The plans for my current PARIS-based DAW system weren't
>>>> *really*
>>>> supposed to kick into gear until I opened the studio doors in January.
>>>> But
>>>> given all of Mike's progress I'm champing at the bit to make the jump
>>>> now,
>>>> to install PARIS on a PC - even a rudimentary, low-cost PC - and worry
>>>> about
>>>> a final rig later after the inevitable studio setup costs are sorted
>>>> out.
>>> I
>>>> can transfer the PC experience I've gained directly into decisions
>>>> about
>>> a
>>>> new rig later.
>>>>
>>>> Which brings me to this ad in my local Craigslist - what do you think
>>>> for
>>>> $150?
>>>>
>>>> 17" LG studioworks E700B CRT Monitor
>>>> 17" 777B Case W/400W
>>>> LG 16DVD/32x10x40 Combo
>>>> AMD Athlon 2200XP (1.83Mghz)
>>>> 1GB DDR400 PC3200
>>>> 64MB MSI GeForce4 MX440 w/TVout
>>>> asus A7N8X nvidia nforce 2 ultra 400
>>>> seagate 250GB HD 7200RPM 8MB Buffer
>>>> labtec pc webcam
>>>> 1.44 floppy drive
>>>>
>>>> [I know I'd put in a beefier PSU right away, and sooner or later
>>>> replace
>>> the
>>>> video card with a dual-head of some description. I'd eventually get rid
>>> of
>>>> the monitor, get a dual-head KVM switcher (ironically even the cheapest
>>>> dual-head switchers seem to cost more than this computer) and share my
>>>> Mac's
>>>> keyboard, mouse and twin 19" LCDs so both can be accessed with a
>>>> button-push.]
>>>>
>>>> So is this a sensible low-cost way get me up and running, and in the
>>>> PARIS
>>>> PC game?
>>>>
>>>> - Kerry
>>>>
>>
>
> --
> Chris Ludwig
>
> ADK Pro Audio
> (859) 635-5762
> www.adkproaudio.com
> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
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| Re: Taking the plunge into PC PARIS - request for advice [message #99980 is a reply to message #99967] |
Thu, 07 August 2008 20:25 |
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Thanks Chris, you rock as always. Pairs it is.
- K
On 8/7/08 10:45 AM, in article 489b368a@linux, "Chris Ludwig"
<chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
> HI Kerry,
> You also need to make sure that you by the ram in pairs so that ram operates
> in dual channel mode.
> So 2x 1 gig DDR400 PC3200 ram is what you will need.
>
>
> Chris
>
>
> Kerry Galloway wrote:
>> Perfect, at least means this means I've got little enough RAM to buy - I'll
>> stick another gig in there. Thanks!
>>
>> - K
>>
>>
>> On 8/7/08 10:04 AM, in article 489b2b23$1@linux, "Mike Audet" <mike@...>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Kerry,
>>>
>>> My only suggestion is that Windows XP's file caching system is flawed and
>>> works a lot better with 1.5 GB+ of RAM. It's designed for file serving,
>>> and it will cache files using up to 1GB of RAM, even if it means swapping
>>> out program code (like the PARIS app) to do it. I found PARIS bogged down
>>> because of this after a little while of use. At 2GB, it's not a problem.
>>>
>>> I hope this helps.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi all. The plans for my current PARIS-based DAW system weren't *really*
>>>> supposed to kick into gear until I opened the studio doors in January. But
>>>> given all of Mike's progress I'm champing at the bit to make the jump now,
>>>> to install PARIS on a PC - even a rudimentary, low-cost PC - and worry
>>>> about
>>>> a final rig later after the inevitable studio setup costs are sorted out.
>>> I
>>>> can transfer the PC experience I've gained directly into decisions about
>>> a
>>>> new rig later.
>>>>
>>>> Which brings me to this ad in my local Craigslist - what do you think for
>>>> $150?
>>>>
>>>> 17" LG studioworks E700B CRT Monitor
>>>> 17" 777B Case W/400W
>>>> LG 16DVD/32x10x40 Combo
>>>> AMD Athlon 2200XP (1.83Mghz)
>>>> 1GB DDR400 PC3200
>>>> 64MB MSI GeForce4 MX440 w/TVout
>>>> asus A7N8X nvidia nforce 2 ultra 400
>>>> seagate 250GB HD 7200RPM 8MB Buffer
>>>> labtec pc webcam
>>>> 1.44 floppy drive
>>>>
>>>> [I know I'd put in a beefier PSU right away, and sooner or later replace
>>> the
>>>> video card with a dual-head of some description. I'd eventually get rid
>>> of
>>>> the monitor, get a dual-head KVM switcher (ironically even the cheapest
>>>> dual-head switchers seem to cost more than this computer) and share my
>>>> Mac's
>>>> keyboard, mouse and twin 19" LCDs so both can be accessed with a
>>>> button-push.]
>>>>
>>>> So is this a sensible low-cost way get me up and running, and in the PARIS
>>>> PC game?
>>>>
>>>> - Kerry
>>>>
>>
"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
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