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picking apart a mix????? [message #72854] Thu, 21 September 2006 12:12 Go to next message
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So....
If someone wanted to pick apart a mix in a technical way.....
to see what techniques were used to create the mix...
using tricks such as reversing phase on one channel
to cancel all mono sources......
what tools would one use?

what other tricks are there to perform?

thanks,

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Brandon
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Re: picking apart a mix????? [message #72860 is a reply to message #72854] Thu, 21 September 2006 13:33 Go to previous message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]
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I think I'm pretty good at this. I built a box that does just what that plug
in I just posted for winamp does. You can break down the stereo image to
see what's going to what channel and also reverse phases to make sounds stand
out and hide so you can isolate better. Start with some old beatles songs
or anything with radical stereo and then compare with your desired source.

Listen carefully for relative levels of delay, reverb, chorus, tremelo, distortion
and how instrument textures contrast each other. Nasty distorted bass with
screaming guitar (Van Halen). Note pan positions and the soundstage that
is presented. I love the Rolling Stones "It's only Rock and Roll" (check
it out for sure), cuz it sounds like 2 guitars and there's like 4 or 5 all
over.

Use EQ to find the center frequency range of instruments to help isolate
them too by using high and low passes together to isolate the instrument
you want.

Of course this is all in headphones and the better they are the more you'll
hear. If anyone wants to send me a $500 pair of headphones feel free. I'm
dying for a pair. hehe

John


"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
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>So....
>If someone wanted to pick apart a mix in a technical way.....
>to see what techniques were used to create the mix...
>using tricks such as reversing phase on one channel
>to cancel all mono sources......
>what tools would one use?
>
>what other tricks are there to perform?
>
>thanks,
>
>--=20
>Brandon
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