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| Re: Bounce chop [message #60633 is a reply to message #60632] |
Fri, 25 November 2005 21:46   |
Edna Sloan
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> > > >>>Edna
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
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>Just plain spooky.
Tom
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4387bdee$1@linux...
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> ssssttrrrrrrrrEWTH!! ;o)
>
> And the way he was looking around the room he looked bored already... ;o)
>
> "John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote:
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>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4628046460703829608 &q=racer+X
>I just upgraded my system and am trying to remember all the things to do to
get Paris running. I have a two card system. Do I connect to the bottom card
or the next one up? Also, is there any difference running 3.0 on XP Home or
Pro?
Thanks
BarryDavid,
Looks fantasitc -very clean and easy on the joints!
oh... and what's your top warp speed? :-)
MR
EK Sound <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote:
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>Hey guys,
>
>Well, I just had to pop up a pic of this. :-) I started building this
>last month when the DM2K arrived, now I just finished assembling it.
>I still have a lot of fill 'n finish to do, but it's up and running!
>
>For those who are curious, I have detailed photos of every step. I
>will put them up on a page when time permits.
>
>Happy Thanksgiving to our southern neighbors!
>
>David.
>Am looking at picking up a used Pro system very reasonable and nearby. Was
wondering if the Pro MEC has 24 bit converters? Owner sez yes, but I have
heard the old and new MECs are the same.
Thanks,
EdnaWhat kind of synth do you have? Are you using the synth as a
sequencer (is it a workstation)? Do you have a MIDI interface
connected to the computer?
David.
Edna wrote:
> Well then, is there a way to have Paris trigger my sy
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| Re: Bounce chop [message #60635 is a reply to message #60634] |
Fri, 25 November 2005 22:11 |
Edna Sloan
Messages: 304
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br />
>>>>>>David.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Edna wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hey, when I bounce to disk I lose just a wee smidgeon off the start
>>
>>of
>>
>>>>>my
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>tracks. I tried moving them forward on the time line, but still
>
> the
>
>>>>>same
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>result. (I have them start immediately in the Editor.) Is this a
>>>>>
>>>>>latency
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>issue? Do I need to insert some silence at the beginning or
>
> rerecord
>
>>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>tracks?
>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>Edna
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>All the 442/MEC "on board" I/O's are 20 bit only (main and monitor
connections). The accessory analog I/O cards for the MEC *are* 24
bit. Color makes no difference here, they are all the same.
David.
Edna wrote:
> Am looking at picking up a used Pro system very reasonable and nearby. Was
> wondering if the Pro MEC has 24 bit converters? Owner sez yes, but I have
> heard the old and new MECs are the same.
> Thanks,
> Edna
>
>Thanks Dave, that's what I thought. Well, maybe I can use this to negotiate
a little better deal. :-]
"EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
news:43888ace@linux...
> All the 442/MEC "on board" I/O's are 20 bit only (main and monitor
> connections). The accessory analog I/O cards for the MEC *are* 24
> bit. Color makes no difference here, they are all the same.
>
> David.
>
> Edna wrote:
>
> > Am looking at picking up a used Pro system very reasonable and nearby.
Was
> > wondering if the Pro MEC has 24 bit converters? Owner sez yes, but I
have
> > heard the old and new MECs are the same.
> > Thanks,
> > Edna
> >
> >It's a Roland JV 1000 workstation with an 8-track sequencer. I haven't
hooked up an interface, just recording sequenced material from its line out
into the MEC. I do have an old MIDI interface card I have never used and
not sure will work with XP I can try.
"EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
news:43888a2a@linux...
> What kind of synth do you have? Are you using the synth as a
> sequencer (is it a workstation)? Do you have a MIDI interface
> connected to the computer?
>
> David.
>
> Edna wrote:
> > Well then, is there a way to have Paris trigger my synth at some point
after
> > recording begins?
> >
> > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> > news:4387f91b$1@linux...
> >
> >>but I haven't gotten
> >>
> >>>into the Paris MIDI yet.
> >>
> >>Paris midi isn't available until you move into v3.0 (IIRC) and it is
> >>somewhat nightmarish. When the time comes to get Paris happening with
> >
>
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| Re: Bounce chop [message #60640 is a reply to message #60635] |
Sat, 26 November 2005 08:12 |
EK Sound
Messages: 939
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> >>>>
> >>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_nospam_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> >>>>>news:4387eb98$1@linux...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Are you holding Record THEN Play when you bounce?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Yes
> >>>>>
> >>>>>You do
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>have to leave a small amount of space between the now line
> >>>>>>and the start of audio... but no more than about a second.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I see. I just selected all the tracks and nudged them up a bit and
> >
> > it
> >
> >>>>>worked fine.
> >>>>>Thanks
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>David.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Edna wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Hey, when I bounce to disk I lose just a wee smidgeon off the start
> >>
> >>of
> >>
> >>>>>my
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>tracks. I tried moving them forward on the time line, but still
> >
> > the
> >
> >>>>>same
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>result. (I have them start immediately in the Editor.) Is this a
> >>>>>
> >>>>>latency
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>issue? Do I need to insert some silence at the beginning or
> >
> > rerecord
> >
> >>>>>the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>tracks?
> >>>>>>>Thanks,
> >>>>>>>Edna
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >Check to see if the JV is capable of sending MIDI timecode when its
sequence is playing. If it does, and you have a MIDI interface
connected to the Paris computer, you should be able to get Paris to
chase MTC so you can record multiple passes in sync. Even a simple
computer MIDI I/O *should* work fine for this application.
David.
Edna wrote:
> It's a Roland JV 1000 workstation with an 8-track sequencer. I haven't
> hooked up an interface, just recording sequenced material from its line out
> into the MEC. I do have an old MIDI interface card I have never used and
> not sure will work with XP I can try.
>
> "EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
> news:43888a2a@linux...
>
>>What kind of synth do you have? Are you using the synth as a
>>sequencer (is it a workstation)? Do you have a MIDI interface
>>connected to the computer?
>>
>>David.
>>
>>Edna wrote:
>>
>>>Well then, is there a way to have Paris trigger my synth at some point
>
> after
>
>>>recording begins?
>>>
>>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>>>news:4387f91b$1@linux...
>>>
>>>
>>>>but I haven't gotten
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>into the Paris MIDI yet.
>>>>
>>>>Paris midi isn't available until you move into v3.0 (IIRC) and it is
>>>>somewhat nightmarish. When the time comes to get Paris happening with
>>>
>>>midi,
>>>
>>>
>>>>it's best to use a second machine with a sequencer like Cubase and an
>
> RME
>
>>>>HDSP series sound card slaved to a Paris ADAT module, though there are
>>>
>>>other
>>>
>>>
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| Re: Bounce chop [message #60643 is a reply to message #60640] |
Sat, 26 November 2005 08:40 |
Edna Sloan
Messages: 304
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e audio, any automation you have will now
>>>>>>be in the wrong place (by the amount of the move). I always
>>>>>>start recording after the 30 sec mark... somthing left over
>>>>>
>>>>>>from the analog and DTRS days... but it serves me well in
>>>>>
>>>>>>cases like this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>David.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Edna wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_nospam_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:4387eb98$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Are you holding Record THEN Play when you bounce?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Yes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You do
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>have to leave a small amount of space between the now line
>>>>>>>>and the start of audio... but no more than about a second.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I see. I just selected all the tracks and nudged them up a bit and
>>>
>>>it
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>worked fine.
>>>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>David.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Edna wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hey, when I bounce to disk I lose just a wee smidgeon off the start
>>>>
>>>>of
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>my
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>tracks. I tried moving them forward on the time line, but still
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>same
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>result. (I have them start immediately in the Editor.) Is this a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>latency
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>issue? Do I need to insert some silence at the beginning or
>>>
>>>rerecord
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>tracks?
>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>Edna
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>
>
>The 4 ins and outs on the master section of the mec are 20 bit
on both the black face and the "Pro" blue face. The 8 in or 8 out modules
that you can add are 24 bit, both black and blue.
Rod
"Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote:
>Am looking at picking up a used Pro system very reasonable and nearby.
Was
>wondering if the Pro MEC has 24 bit converters? Owner sez yes, but I have
>heard the old and new MECs are the same.
>Thanks,
>Edna
>
>ooops...I see I was beat to the punch. :-)
rod
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>The 4 ins and outs on the master section of the mec are 20 bit
>on both the black face and the "Pro" blue face. The 8 in or 8 out modules
>that you can add are 24 bit, both black and blue.
>Rod
>"Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote:
>>Am looking at picking up a used Pro system very reasonable and nearby.
> Was
>>wondering if the Pro MEC has 24 bit converters? Owner sez yes, but I have
>>heard the old and new MECs are the same.
>>Thanks,
>>Edna
>>
>>
>Will do. My onboard soundcard also has a midi port(game port) - I have this
disabled since it was sharing an IRQ with Paris. Anyway, your're saying
that I can clock Paris with the synth midi time code. Does this also start
Paris playing or recording at the same time as I play the synth tracks?
"EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
news:438891e1@linux...
> Check to see if the JV is capable of sending MIDI timecode when its
> sequence is playing. If it does, and you have a MIDI interface
> connected to the Paris computer, you should be able to get Paris to
> chase MTC so you can record multiple passes in sync. Even a simple
> computer MIDI I/O *should* work fine for this application.
>
> David.
>
> Edna wrote:
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| Re: Bounce chop [message #60644 is a reply to message #60643] |
Sat, 26 November 2005 08:45 |
EK Sound
Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005
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r />
>
> > It's a Roland JV 1000 workstation with an 8-track sequencer. I haven't
> > hooked up an interface, just recording sequenced material from its line
out
> > into the MEC. I do have an old MIDI interface card I have never used
and
> > not sure will work with XP I can try.
> >
> > "EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
> > news:43888a2a@linux...
> >
> >>What kind of synth do you have? Are you using the synth as a
> >>sequencer (is it a workstation)? Do you have a MIDI interface
> >>connected to the computer?
> >>
> >>David.
> >>
> >>Edna wrote:
> >>
> >>>Well then, is there a way to have Paris trigger my synth at some point
> >
> > after
> >
> >>>recording begins?
> >>>
> >>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> >>>news:4387f91b$1@linux...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>but I haven't gotten
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>into the Paris MIDI yet.
> >>>>
> >>>>Paris midi isn't available until you move into v3.0 (IIRC) and it is
> >>>>somewhat nightmarish. When the time comes to get Paris happening with
> >>>
> >>>midi,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>it's best to use a second machine with a sequencer like Cubase and an
> >
> > RME
> >
> >>>>HDSP series sound card slaved to a Paris ADAT module, though there are
> >>>
> >>>other
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>solutions also.
> >>>>
> >>>>Deej
> >>>>
> >>>>"Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote in message news:4387f7a8@linux...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Thanks for the tip. I didnt have any automation programmed yet.
Just
> >>>
> >>>in
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>the early learning stages of my first project. What I'm doing is
> >>>>
> >>>>recording
> >>>>
> >>>>>from my 8-track sequenced synth tracks, one track at a time, and then
> >>>>
> >>>>using
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>the drum track to align them to. Not very precise, but I haven't
> >
> > gotten
> >
> >>>>>into the Paris MIDI yet.
> >>>>>Edna
> >>>>>
> >>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_nospam_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> >>>>>news:4387f211$1@linux...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>By simply moving the audio, any automation you have will now
> >>>>>>be in the wrong place (by the amount of the move). I always
> >>>>>>start recording after the 30 sec mark... somthing left over
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>from the analog and DTRS days... but it serves me well in
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>cases like this.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>David.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Edna wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_nospam_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>news:4387eb98$1@linux...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Are you holding Record THEN Play when you bounce?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Yes
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>You do
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>have to leave a small amount of space between the now line
> >>>>>>>>and the start of audio... but no more than about a second.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>I see. I just selected all the tracks and nudged them up a bit and
> >>>
> >>>it
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>worked fine.
> >>>>>>>Thanks
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>David.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Edna wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Hey, when I bounce to disk I lose just a wee smidgeon off the
start
> >>>>
> >>>>of
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>my
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>tracks. I tried moving them forward on the time line, but still
> >>>
> >>>the
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>same
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>result. (I have them start immediately in the Editor.) Is this
a
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>latency
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>issue? Do I need to insert some silence at the beginning or
> >>>
> >>>rerecord
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>the
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >
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| Re: Bounce chop [message #60647 is a reply to message #60644] |
Sat, 26 November 2005 09:17 |
Edna Sloan
Messages: 304
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t;Edna
>>>
>>>
>>
>It would start Paris playing. Once Paris is rolling you would have to
either punch in manually, or use the autopunch markers to establish an
in/out point.
David.
Edna wrote:
> Will do. My onboard soundcard also has a midi port(game port) - I have this
> disabled since it was sharing an IRQ with Paris. Anyway, your're saying
> that I can clock Paris with the synth midi time code. Does this also start
> Paris playing or recording at the same time as I play the synth tracks?
>
> "EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
> news:438891e1@linux...
>
>>Check to see if the JV is capable of sending MIDI timecode when its
>>sequence is playing. If it does, and you have a MIDI interface
>>connected to the Paris computer, you should be able to get Paris to
>>chase MTC so you can record multiple passes in sync. Even a simple
>>computer MIDI I/O *should* work fine for this application.
>>
>>David.
>>
>>Edna wrote:
>>
>>
>>>It's a Roland JV 1000 workstation with an 8-track sequencer. I haven't
>>>hooked up an interface, just recording sequenced material from its line
>
> out
>
>>>into the MEC. I do have an old MIDI interface card I have never used
>
> and
>
>>>not sure will work with XP I can try.
>>>
>>>"EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
>>>news:43888a2a@linux...
>>>
>>>
>>>>What kind of synth do you have? Are you using the synth as a
>>>>sequencer (is it a workstation)? Do you have a MIDI interface
>>>>connected to the computer?
>>>>
>>>>David.
>>>>
>>>>Edna wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Well then, is there a way to have Paris trigger my synth at some point
>>>
>>>after
>>>
>>>
>>>>>recording begins?
>>>>>
>>>>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>>>>>news:4387f91b$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>but I haven't gotten
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>into the Paris MIDI yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Paris midi isn't available until you move into v3.0 (IIRC) and it is
>>>>>>somewhat nightmarish. When the time comes to get Paris happening with
>>>>>
>>>>>midi,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>it's best to use a second machine with a sequencer like Cubase and an
>>>
>>>RME
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>HDSP series sound card slaved to a Paris ADAT module, though there are
>>>>>
>>>>>other
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>solutions also.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Deej
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote in message news:4387f7a8@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks for the tip. I didnt have any automation programmed yet.
>
> Just
>
>>>>>in
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>the early learning stages of my first project. What I'm doing is
>>>>>>
>>>>>>recording
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>from my 8-track sequenced synth tracks, one track at a time, and then
>>>>>>
>>>>>>using
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>the drum track to align them to. Not very precise, but I haven't
>>>
>>>gotten
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>into the Paris MIDI yet.
>>>>>>>Edna
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_nospam_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:4387f211$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>By simply moving the audio, any automation you have will now
>>>>>>>>be in the wrong place (by the amount of the move). I always
>>>>>>>>start recording after the 30 sec mark... somthing left over
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>from the analog and DTRS days... but it serves me well in
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>cases like this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>David.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Edna wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_nospam_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>news:4387eb98$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Are you holding Record THEN Play when you bounce?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Yes
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>You do
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>have to leave a small amount of space between the now line
>>>>>>>>>>and the start of audio... but no more than about a second.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I see. I just selected all the tracks and nudged them up a bit and
>>>>>
>>>>>it
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>worked fine.
>>>>>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>David.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Edna wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Hey, when I bounce to disk I lose just a wee smidgeon off the
>
> start
>
>>>>>>of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>my
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>
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| Re: Bounce chop [message #60649 is a reply to message #60647] |
Sat, 26 November 2005 09:20 |
EK Sound
Messages: 939
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>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>tracks?
>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>Edna
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>
>So, I need to study the punch chapter in the manual, along with the sync
Paris chapter. Could I also arm Paris, press and hold the record button and
then press the play button on the synth to start Paris recording?
"EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
news:43889a1f$1@linux...
> It would start Paris playing. Once Paris is rolling you would have to
> either punch in manually, or use the autopunch markers to establish an
> in/out point.
>
> David.
>
> Edna wrote:
>
> > Will do. My onboard soundcard also has a midi port(game port) - I have
this
> > disabled since it was sharing an IRQ with Paris. Anyway, your're saying
> > that I can clock Paris with the synth midi time code. Does this also
start
> > Paris playing or recording at the same time as I play the synth tracks?
> >
> > "EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
> > news:438891e1@linux...
> >
> >>Check to see if the JV is capable of sending MIDI timecode when its
> >>sequence is playing. If it does, and you have a MIDI interface
> >>connected to the Paris computer, you should be able to get Paris to
> >>chase MTC so you can record multiple passes in sync. Even a simple
> >>computer MIDI I/O *should* work fine for this application.
> >>
> >>David.
> >>
> >>Edna wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>It's a Roland JV 1000 workstation with an 8-track sequencer. I haven't
> >>>hooked up an interface, just recording sequenced material from its line
> >
> > out
> >
> >>>into the MEC. I do have an old MIDI interface card I have never used
> >
> > and
> >
> >>>not sure will work with XP I can try.
> >>>
> >>>"EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:43888a2a@linux...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>What kind of synth do you have? Are you using the synth as a
> >>>>sequencer (is it a workstation)? Do you have a MIDI interface
> >>>>connected to the computer?
> >>>>
> >>>>David.
> >>>>
> >>>>Edna wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Well then, is there a way to have Paris trigger my synth at some
point
> >>>
> >>>after
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>recording begins?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> >>>>>news:4387f91b$1@linux...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>but I haven't gotten
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>into the Paris MIDI yet.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Paris midi isn't available until you move into v3.0 (IIRC) and it is
> >>>>>>somewhat nightmarish. When the time comes to get Paris happening
with
> >>>>>
> >>>>>midi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>it's best to use a second machine with a sequencer like Cubase and
an
> >>>
> >>>RME
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>HDSP series sound card slaved to a Paris ADAT module, though there
are
> >>>>>
> >>>>>other
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>solutions also.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Deej
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>"Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote in message
news:4387f7a8@linux...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Thanks for the tip. I didnt have any automation programmed yet.
> >
> > Just
> >
> >>>>>in
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>the early learning stages of my first project. What I'm doing is
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>recording
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>from my 8-track sequenced synth tracks, one track at a time, and
then
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>using
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>the drum track to align them to. Not very precise, but I haven't
> >>>
> >>>gotten
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>into the Paris MIDI yet.
> >>>>>>>Edna
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_nospam_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>news:4387f211$1@linux...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>By simply moving the audio, any automation you have will now
> >>>>>>>>be in the wrong place (by the amount of the move). I always
> >>>>>>>>start recording after the 30 sec mark... somthing left over
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>from the analog and DTRS days... but it serves me well in
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>cases like this.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>David.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Edna wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_nospam_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>news:4387eb98$1@linux...
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>Are you holding Record THEN Play when you bounce?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Yes
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>You do
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>have to leave a small amount of space between the now line
> >>>>>>>>>>and the start of audio... but no more than about a second.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>I see. I just selected all the tracks and nudged them up a bit
and
> >>>>>
> >>>>>it
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>worked fine.
> >>>>>>>>>Thanks
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>David.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>Edna wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>Hey, when I bounce to disk I lose just a wee smidgeon off the
> >
> > start
> >
> >>>>>
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| Re: Bounce chop [message #60650 is a reply to message #60649] |
Sat, 26 November 2005 09:31 |
Edna Sloan
Messages: 304
Registered: October 2005
|
Senior Member |
|
|
;>of
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>my
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>tracks. I tried moving them forward on the time line, but
still
> >>>>>
> >>>>>the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>same
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>result. (I have them start immediately in the Editor.) Is
this
> >
> > a
> >
> >>>>>>>>>latency
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>issue? Do I need to insert some silence at the beginning or
> >>>>>
> >>>>>rerecord
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>the
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>tracks?
> >>>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>Edna
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>
> >
> >Thanks also Rod, so the only hardware difference in the Pro version is some
button assignments on the C16 [and the color :-)]?
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:43889666$1@linux...
>
> ooops...I see I was beat to the punch. :-)
> rod
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> >The 4 ins and outs on the master section of the mec are 20 bit
> >on both the black face and the "Pro" blue face. The 8 in or 8 out modules
> >that you can add are 24 bit, both black and blue.
> >Rod
> >"Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote:
> >>Am looking at picking up a used Pro system very reasonable and nearby.
> > Was
> >>wondering if the Pro MEC has 24 bit converters? Owner sez yes, but I
have
> >>heard the old and new MECs are the same.
> >>Thanks,
> >>Edna
> >>
> >>
> >
>I don't think that would work... but I have never tried it. Also, I
would recommend adding two bars of click to the beginning of your
sequence prior to transfering. This will allow Paris time to lock and
start recording.
David.
Edna wrote:
> So, I need to study the punch chapter in the manual, along with the sync
> Paris chapter. Could I also arm Paris, press and hold the record button and
> then press the play button on the synth to start Paris recording?
>
> "EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
> news:43889a1f$1@linux...
>
>>It would start Paris playing. Once Paris is rolling you would have to
>>either punch in manually, or use the autopunch markers to establish an
>>in/out point.
>>
>>David.
>>
>>Edna wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Will do. My onboard soundcard also has a midi port(game port) - I have
>
> this
>
>>>disabled since it was sharing an IRQ with Paris. Anyway, your're saying
>>>that I can clock Paris with the synth midi time code. Does this also
>
> start
>
>>>Paris playing or recording at the same time as I play the synth tracks?
>>>
>>>"EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
>>>news:438891e1@linux...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Check to see if the JV is capable of sending MIDI timecode when its
>>>>sequence is playing. If it does, and you have a MIDI interface
>>>>connected to the Paris computer, you should be able to get Paris to
>>>>chase MTC so you can record multiple passes in sync. Even a simple
>>>>computer MIDI I/O *should* work fine for this application.
>>>>
>>>>David.
>>>>
>>>>Edna wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>It's a Roland JV 1000 workstation with an 8-track sequencer. I haven't
>>>>>hooked up an interface, just recording sequenced material from its line
>>>
>>>out
>>>
>>>
>>>>>into the MEC. I do have an old MIDI interface card I have never used
>>>
>>>and
>>>
>>>
>>>>>not sure will work with XP I can try.
>>>>>
>>>>>"EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:43888a2a@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>What kind of synth do you have? Are you using the synth as a
>>>>>>sequencer (is it a workstation)? Do you have a MIDI interface
>>>>>>connected to the computer?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>David.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Edna wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Well then, is there a way to have Paris trigger my synth at some
>
> point
>
>>>>>after
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>recording begins?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:4387f91b$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>but I haven't gotten
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>into the Paris MIDI yet.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Paris midi isn't available until you move into v3.0 (IIRC) and it is
>>>>>>>>somewhat nightmarish. When the time comes to get Paris happening
>
> with
>
>>>>>>>midi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>it's best to use a second machine with a sequencer like Cubase and
>
> an
>
>>>>>RME
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>HDSP series sound card slaved to a Paris ADAT module, though there
>
> are
>
>>>>>>>other
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>solutions also.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Deej
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote in message
>
> news:4387f7a8@linux...
>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Thanks for the tip. I didnt have any automation programmed yet.
>>>
>>>Just
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>the early learning stages of my first project. What I'm doing is
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>recording
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>from my 8-track sequenced synth tracks, one track at a time, and
>
> then
>
>>>>>>>>using
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>the drum track to align them to. Not very precise, but I haven't
>>>>>
>>>>>gotten
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>into the Paris MIDI yet.
>>>>>>>>>Edna
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_nospam_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>news:4387f211$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>By simply moving the audio, any automation you have will now
>>>>>>>>>>be in the wrong place (by the amount of the move). I always
>>>>>>>>>>start recording after the 30 sec mark... somthing left over
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>from the analog and DTRS days... but it serves me well in
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>cases like this.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>David.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>&
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| Re: Bounce chop [message #60652 is a reply to message #60650] |
Sat, 26 November 2005 09:51 |
EK Sound
Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005
|
Senior Member |
|
|
;>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>have to leave a small amount of space between the now line
>>>>>>>>>>>>and the start of audio... but no more than about a second.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I see. I just selected all the tracks and nudged them up a bit
>
> and
>
>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>worked fine.
>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>David.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Edna wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hey, when I bounce to disk I lose just a wee smidgeon off the
>>>
>>>start
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>my
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>tracks. I tried moving them forward on the time line, but
>
> still
>
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>same
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>result. (I have them start immediately in the Editor.) Is
>
> this
>
>>>a
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>latency
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>issue? Do I need to insert some silence at the beginning or
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>rerecord
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>tracks?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Edna
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>
>The spdif I/O on the MEC are 24 bit whereas on the IF 442 they are 20 bit.
"Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote in message news:43888e9e@linux...
> Thanks Dave, that's what I thought. Well, maybe I can use this to
negotiate
> a little better deal. :-]
>
> "EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
> news:43888ace@linux...
> > All the 442/MEC "on board" I/O's are 20 bit only (main and monitor
> > connections). The accessory analog I/O cards for the MEC *are* 24
> > bit. Color makes no difference here, they are all the same.
> >
> > David.
> >
> > Edna wrote:
> >
> > > Am looking at picking up a used Pro system very reasonable and
nearby.
> Was
> > > wondering if the Pro MEC has 24 bit converters? Owner sez yes, but I
> have
> > > heard the old and new MECs are the same.
> > > Thanks,
> > > Edna
> > >
> > >
>
>On both MECs I assume? Well, maybe this is what the seller was referring
to. So, I could use other a/d converters like the RME to get 24 bits and
get into Paris with the spdif I/O?
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:4388a172$1@linux...
> The spdif I/O on the MEC are 24 bit whereas on the IF 442 they are 20 bit.
>
> "Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote in message news:43888e9e@linux...
> > Thanks Dave, that's what I thought. Well, maybe I can use this to
> negotiate
> > a little better deal. :-]
> >
> > "EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
> > news:43888ace@linux...
> > > All the 442/MEC "on board" I/O's are 20 bit only (main and monitor
> > > connections). The accessory analog I/O cards for the MEC *are* 24
> > > bit. Color makes no difference here, they are all the same.
> > >
> > > David.
> > >
> > > Edna wrote:
> > >
> > > > Am looking at picking up a used Pro system very reasonable and
> nearby.
> > Was
> > > > wondering if the Pro MEC has 24 bit converters? Owner sez yes, but
I
> > have
> > > > heard the old and new MECs are the same.
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Edna
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
>
>Right. Just checked my MIDI card: its ISA and I don't think my new fangled
mobo (ABIT IC7-G) has one. Well, I guess I can try the sound card port.
"EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
news:4388a151$1@linux...
> I don't think that would work... but I have never tried it. Also, I
> would recommend adding two bars of click to the beginning of your
> sequence prior to transfering. This will allow Paris time to lock and
> start recording.
>
> David.
>
> Edna wrote:
>
> > So, I need to study the punch chapter in the manual, along with the sync
> > Paris chapter. Could I also arm Paris, press and hold the record button
and
> > then press the play button on the synth to start Paris recording?
> >
> > "EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
> > news:43889a1f$1@linux...
> >
> >>It would start Paris playing. Once Paris is rolling you would have to
> >>either punch in manually, or use the autopunch markers to establish an
> >>in/out point.
> >>
> >>David.
> >>
> >>Edna wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Will do. My onboard soundcard also has a midi port(game port) - I have
> >
> > this
> >
> >>>disabled since it was sharing an IRQ with Paris. Anyway, your're
saying
> >>>that I can clock Paris with the synth midi time code. Does this also
> >
> > start
> >
> >>>Paris playing or recording at the same time as I play the synth tracks?
> >>>
> >>>"EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:438891e1@linux...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Check to see if the JV is capable of sending MIDI timecode when its
> >>>>sequence is playing. If it does, and you have a MIDI interface
> >>>>connected to the Paris computer, you should be able to get Paris to
> >>>>chase MTC so you can record multiple passes in sync. Even a simple
> >>>>computer MIDI I/O *should* work fine for this application.
> >>>>
> >>>>David.
> >>>>
> >>>>Edna wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>It's a Roland JV 1000 workstation with an 8-track sequencer. I
haven't
> >>>>>hooked up an interface, just recording sequenced material from its
line
> >>>
> >>>out
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>into the MEC. I do have an old MIDI interface card I have never used
> >>>
> >>>and
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>not sure will work with XP I can try.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>"EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>news:43888a2a@linux...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>What kind of synth do you have? Are you using the synth as a
> >>>>>>sequencer (is it a workstation)? Do you have a MIDI interface
> >>>>>>connected to the computer?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>David.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Edna wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Well then, is there a way to have Paris trigger my synth at some
> >
> > point
> >
> >>>>>after
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>recording begins?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>news:4387f91b$1@linux...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>but I haven't gotten
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>into the Paris MIDI yet.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Paris midi isn't available until you move into v3.0 (IIRC) and it
is
> >>>>>>>>somewhat nightmarish. When the time comes to get Paris happening
> >
> > with
> >
> >>>>>>>midi,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>it's best to use a second machine with a sequencer like Cubase and
> >
> > an
> >
> >>>>>RME
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>HDSP series sound card slaved to a Paris ADAT module, though there
> >
> > are
> >
> >>>>>>>other
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >
|
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| Re: Bounce chop [message #60655 is a reply to message #60652] |
Sat, 26 November 2005 10:10 |
Edna Sloan
Messages: 304
Registered: October 2005
|
Senior Member |
|
|
>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_nospam_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>>>news:4387eb98$1@linux...
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>Are you holding Record THEN Play when you bounce?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>Yes
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>You do
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>have to leave a small amount of space between the now line
> >>>>>>>>>>>>and the start of audio... but no more than about a second.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>I see. I just selected all the tracks and nudged them up a bit
> >
> > and
> >
> >>>>>>>it
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>worked fine.
> >>>>>>>>>>>Thanks
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>David.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>Edna wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Hey, when I bounce to disk I lose just a wee smidgeon off the
> >>>
> >>>start
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>of
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>my
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>tracks. I tried moving them forward on the time line, but
> >
> > still
> >
> >>>>>>>the
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>same
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>result. (I have them start immediately in the Editor.) Is
> >
> > this
> >
> >>>a
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>latency
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>issue? Do I need to insert some silence at the beginning or
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>rerecord
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>the
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>tracks?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Edna
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>
> >
> >For whatever it's worth, I cut about 90% of my sessions
in 16 bit--it sounds fantastic, especially for the punchy
stuff. If it's real quiet acoustic stuff I go to the 24
bit. My mastering guy in Nashville (Randy LeRoy at Final Stage)
agrees, and says it sounds as good or better than most 24 bit stuff.
"Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote:
>Am looking at picking up a used Pro system very reasonable and nearby.
Was
>wondering if the Pro MEC has 24 bit converters? Owner sez yes, but I have
>heard the old and new MECs are the same.
>Thanks,
>Edna
>
>Well, it turns out that its 2 switches with a stereo cable short to ground
type, one for punching and the other for recording. So I can get away from
the noisy computer to do a vocal track.
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:43815a12$1@linux...
> Heh....heh....heh......<evil grin>
>
> "Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote in message news:43810909@linux...
> > With all the idiosyncrasies in Paris, it may explode! :-)
> >
> > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> > news:4380d718$1@linux...
> > > Yeh......what could possibly happen?
> > >
> > > ;o)
> > >
> > > "Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote in message news:4380984f@linux...
> > > > Thanks, thats what my Roland is, so I'll try it and see what
happens.
> > > > Edna
> > > > "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
> > > news:43804c2e@linux...
> > > > > Single pole momentary if I remember correctly. I haven't used one
> in
> > > > years
> > > > > though, so perhaps another user will support or correct me?
> > > > > AA
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote in message
> news:437f753e@linux...
> > > > > > Regarding the footswitch for Paris mentioned in the manual, is
> this
> > > just
> > > > a
> > > > > > simple make-break single pole toggle type?
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Edna
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>Hmmm, interesting. Do you do a lot of fx processing at 16 bit also?
"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message
news:4388a711$1@linux...
>
> For whatever it's worth, I cut about 90% of my sessions
> in 16 bit--it sounds fantastic, especially for the punchy
> stuff. If it's real quiet acoustic stuff I go to the 24
> bit. My mastering guy in Nashville (Randy LeRoy at Final Stage)
> agrees, and says it sounds as good or better than most 24 bit stuff.
>
>
>
> "Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote:
> >Am looking at picking up a used Pro system very reasonable and nearby.
> Was
> >wondering if the Pro MEC has 24 bit converters? Owner sez yes, but I
have
> >heard the old and new MECs are the same.
> >Thanks,
> >Edna
> >
> >
>While the tracks themselves are 16 bit, all porocessing is done at
full internal resolution. Then, when you bounce to disc, set the
project bit depth to 24 and you will get a full 24 bits for your mix.
This file can then be mastered, dithered and put to CD.
If you are doing more open, airy type music, you may want to track at
24 bit. Even using the on-board A/D, you will get 24 bit files with
20 bits of resolution... still better than 16.
Personally, I track everything at 16 also with very good results. Why
waste the drive space if it's not needed.
Alternately, as you suggested, an outboard A/D can be SPDIF'd into
Paris for full 24 bit rez recording.
David.
Edna wrote:
> Hmmm, interesting. Do you do a lot of fx processing at 16 bit also?
>
> "John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message
> news:4388a711$1@linux...
>
>>For whatever it's worth, I cut about 90% of my sessions
>>in 16 bit--it sounds fantastic, especially for the punchy
>>stuff. If it's real quiet acoustic stuff I go to the 24
>>bit. My mastering guy in Nashville (Randy LeRoy at Final Stage)
>>agrees, and says it sounds as good or better than most 24 bit stuff.
>>
>>
>>
>>"Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Am looking at picking up a used Pro system very reasonable and nearby.
>>
>> Was
>>
>>>wondering if the Pro MEC has 24 bit converters? Owner sez yes, but I
>
> have
>
>>>heard the old and new MECs are the same.
>>>Thanks,
>>>Edna
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>I use a fair amount of plugins--UAD card for a lot,
but pleant of Paris compresssors and eqs, with some
Waves stuff. All my verb stuff is external (KSP 8 and
others). I assume that is what you asked :)
"Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote:
>Hmmm, interesting. Do you do a lot of fx processing at 16 bit also?
>
>"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote in message
>news:4388a711$1@linux...
>>
>> For whatever it's worth, I cut about 90% of my sessions
>> in 16 bit--it sounds fantastic, especially for the punchy
>> stuff. If it's real quiet acoustic stuff I go to the 24
>> bit. My mastering guy in Nashville (Randy LeRoy at Final Stage)
>> agrees, and says it sounds as good or better than most 24 bit stuff.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote:
>> >Am looking at picking up a used Pro system very reasonable and nearby.
>> Was
>> >wondering if the Pro MEC has 24 bit converters? Owner sez yes, but I
>have
>> >heard the old and new MECs are the same.
>> >Thanks,
>> >Edna
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>"Tom Bruhl" <Arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>Just plain spooky.
>
>Tom
I've seen the same thing in young classical players. When you get
to know them a bit you realize it is a savant-like quickness in the
mind that allows them to play at such unearthly levels. In a way, it
is like Rain Man, if you know what I mean.
Now comes the hard part. They have to learn everything else
about music, and really apply themselves in the next few years to
even maintain their current levels of playing. The *worst* thing that
can happen is adults fawning over them and praising them to the
sky and comparing them to the greats, and getting them record
deals. Yet this is usually what happens. When it does, the prodigy
disappears and is never heard from again.
In classical, if you have a great teacher, they keep your nose to the
wheel, and let you know that you have along way to go. The
parents will be smart, and reserved with their praise and exposure of
the child to the public.
Then you can end up with another Mozart, but it is rare today; fame
is too much of a drug to most people.
I've seen these kids end up featured soloists with major symphonies
and I've seen them disappear. It's all in the parents and the
teachers.
DCWhat I was getting at was that if you do a lot of file processing, wouldn't
this also be a time to use 24 bits to advantage?
"John Macy" <
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