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The 24 bit no compression thing....?? [message #71172]

Sun, 13 August 2006 19:20

brandon[2]
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Registered: June 2006

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Can someone please explain to me the whole ...."if you record to 24 bit resolution
you don't need to worry about tracking with compression" thing....I may be
mis quoting, but it is something to that effect..
Something to do with not having to worry about clipping????.....
thx,
b

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Re: The 24 bit no compression thing....?? [message #71176 is a reply to message #71172]

Sun, 13 August 2006 20:00

Deej [1]

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Registered: January 2006

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It has to do with not needing to worry about tracking as hot as possible to
get the maximum number of bits. At 24 bit, you can just set your record
levels a bit lower and still get plenty of resolution. You don't need to be
riding just below redline.

"brandon" <a@a.com> wrote in message news:44dfddda$1@linux...
>
> Can someone please explain to me the whole ...."if you record to 24 bit
resolution
> you don't need to worry about tracking with compression" thing....I may be
> mis quoting, but it is something to that effect..
> Something to do with not having to worry about clipping????.....
> thx,
> b

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Re: The 24 bit no compression thing....?? [message #71177 is a reply to message #71176]

Sun, 13 August 2006 20:09

brandon[2]
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Registered: June 2006

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When I am tracking I always try to get the levels at a -10 average on the
PARIS channel meters.
Am I compromising resolution?
Should I be tracking at levels just below clipping?

thx,
b

"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>It has to do with not needing to worry about tracking as hot as possible
to
>get the maximum number of bits. At 24 bit, you can just set your record
>levels a bit lower and still get plenty of resolution. You don't need to
be
>riding just below redline.
>
>
>"brandon" <a@a.com> wrote in message news:44dfddda$1@linux...
>>
>> Can someone please explain to me the whole ...."if you record to 24 bit
>resolution
>> you don't need to worry about tracking with compression" thing....I may
be
>> mis quoting, but it is something to that effect..
>> Something to do with not having to worry about clipping????.....
>> thx,
>> b
>
>

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Re: The 24 bit no compression thing....?? [message #71178 is a reply to message #71176]

Sun, 13 August 2006 20:20

Aaron Allen

Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008

Senior Member

But Deej... I 'like' riding the lightning!
AA

"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:44dfe7b0@linux...
> It has to do with not needing to worry about tracking as hot as possible
> to
> get the maximum number of bits. At 24 bit, you can just set your record
> levels a bit lower and still get plenty of resolution. You don't need to
> be
> riding just below redline.
>
>
> "brandon" <a@a.com> wrote in message news:44dfddda$1@linux...
>>
>> Can someone please explain to me the whole ...."if you record to 24 bit
> resolution
>> you don't need to worry about tracking with compression" thing....I may
>> be
>> mis quoting, but it is something to that effect..
>> Something to do with not having to worry about clipping????.....
>> thx,
>> b
>
>

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Re: The 24 bit no compression thing....?? [message #71179 is a reply to message #71178]

Sun, 13 August 2006 20:23

Carl Amburn

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Registered: July 2005

Senior Member

I do too... :)

-Carl

"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message news:44dfea90@linux...
> But Deej... I 'like' riding the lightning!
> AA
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:44dfe7b0@linux...
> > It has to do with not needing to worry about tracking as hot as possible
> > to
> > get the maximum number of bits. At 24 bit, you can just set your record
> > levels a bit lower and still get plenty of resolution. You don't need to
> > be
> > riding just below redline.
> >
> >
> > "brandon" <a@a.com> wrote in message news:44dfddda$1@linux...
> >>
> >> Can someone please explain to me the whole ...."if you record to 24 bit
> > resolution
> >> you don't need to worry about tracking with compression" thing....I may
> >> be
> >> mis quoting, but it is something to that effect..
> >> Something to do with not having to worry about clipping????.....
> >> thx,
> >> b
> >
> >
>
>

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Re: The 24 bit no compression thing....?? [message #71191 is a reply to message #71177]

Mon, 14 August 2006 04:07

John [1]
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Registered: September 2005

Senior Member

I made a macro to clear all my clip lights. This way I can push my signals
all the way up to the top without clipping. That gives you the max signal
to noise ratio which is a good thing. Just don't clip.

"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>
>When I am tracking I always try to get the levels at a -10 average on the
>PARIS channel meters.
>Am I compromising resolution?
>Should I be tracking at levels just below clipping?
>
>thx,
>b
>
>
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>It has to do with not needing to worry about tracking as hot as possible
>to
>>get the maximum number of bits. At 24 bit, you can just set your record
>>levels a bit lower and still get plenty of resolution. You don't need to
>be
>>riding just below redline.
>>
>>
>>"brandon" <a@a.com> wrote in message news:44dfddda$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Can someone please explain to me the whole ...."if you record to 24 bit
>>resolution
>>> you don't need to worry about tracking with compression" thing....I may
>be
>>> mis quoting, but it is something to that effect..
>>> Something to do with not having to worry about clipping????.....
>>> thx,
>>> b
>>
>>
>

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Re: The 24 bit no compression thing....?? [message #71192 is a reply to message #71176]

Mon, 14 August 2006 05:11

brandon[2]

Messages: 380
Registered: June 2006

Senior Member

How much lower could you set your record levels before it is no longer
beneficial?

thx
b

--
Brandon
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:44dfe7b0@linux...
> It has to do with not needing to worry about tracking as hot as possible
to
> get the maximum number of bits. At 24 bit, you can just set your record
> levels a bit lower and still get plenty of resolution. You don't need to
be
> riding just below redline.
>
>
> "brandon" <a@a.com> wrote in message news:44dfddda$1@linux...
> >
> > Can someone please explain to me the whole ...."if you record to 24 bit
> resolution
> > you don't need to worry about tracking with compression" thing....I may
be
> > mis quoting, but it is something to that effect..
> > Something to do with not having to worry about clipping????.....
> > thx,
> > b
>
>

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Re: The 24 bit no compression thing....?? [message #71194 is a reply to message #71176]

Mon, 14 August 2006 07:06

Kim W
Messages: 165
Registered: July 2006

Senior Member

My default "new recording template" has all gain trims set at +3db. (as well

as having enabled "show meters as pre-fade".)
That way, I can rejoice at watching those gloriously coloured VU's
in full flight during a session, and not stress about the peak "led's" too
much.

"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>It has to do with not needing to worry about tracking as hot as possible
to
>get the maximum number of bits. At 24 bit, you can just set your record
>levels a bit lower and still get plenty of resolution. You don't need to
be
>riding just below redline.
>
>
>"brandon" <a@a.com> wrote in message news:44dfddda$1@linux...
>>
>> Can someone please explain to me the whole ...."if you record to 24 bit
>resolution
>> you don't need to worry about tracking with compression" thing....I may
be
>> mis quoting, but it is something to that effect..
>> Something to do with not having to worry about clipping????.....
>> thx,
>> b
>
>

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Re: The 24 bit no compression thing....?? [message #71196 is a reply to message #71192]

Mon, 14 August 2006 07:22

Deej [1]

Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006

Senior Member

I don't know to be truthful. I usually strap a transparent compressor like
my Forssell or an RNC across signals that are likely to be all over the map
and set it so that things peak out around -3, but I don't sweat it at all if
I'm peaking at -10. That gives me plenty of resolution without obvious
compression artifacts.

"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote in message news:44e0670e@linux...
> How much lower could you set your record levels before it is no longer
> beneficial?
>
> thx
> b
>
> --
> Brandon
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:44dfe7b0@linux...
> > It has to do with not needing to worry about tracking as hot as possible
> to
> > get the maximum number of bits. At 24 bit, you can just set your record
> > levels a bit lower and still get plenty of resolution. You don't need to
> be
> > riding just below redline.
> >
> >
> > "brandon" <a@a.com> wrote in message news:44dfddda$1@linux...
> > >
> > > Can someone please explain to me the whole ...."if you record to 24
bit
> > resolution
> > > you don't need to worry about tracking with compression" thing....I
may
> be
> > > mis quoting, but it is something to that effect..
> > > Something to do with not having to worry about clipping????.....
> > > thx,
> > > b
> >
> >
>
>

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