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Paris Motherboards - So what's the fashion? [message #94086] Thu, 27 December 2007 15:51 Go to next message
Kim is currently offline  Kim
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I'm after something in brown. I've never been a fan of green PCB's...

....err...

So Mike is going with the Asrock AM2NF3-VSTA. I'm currently on the Gigabyte
K8NS Ultra which for me at least ran well for about a month before deteriorating
into multiple replacements and a general disdain for life and computerness.

The Asrock looks ok to me, and apparently I can use a dual processor now,
and I think I can actually get one here (thought they are rare it seems).

Just thought I'd fly the flag before a purchase. The credit card is pretty
much out and I'm hoping to have something ordered in the next 18 hours...
unless somebody tries defiantly to argue that my Paris system has something
else wrong with it...

Cheers,
Kim.
Re: Paris Motherboards - So what's the fashion? [message #94087 is a reply to message #94086] Thu, 27 December 2007 14:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Carl Amburn is currently offline  Carl Amburn   UNITED STATES
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Just make absolutely sure your eds cards aren't the problem.....


"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:47742c6c$1@linux...
>
>
> I'm after something in brown. I've never been a fan of green PCB's...
>
> ...err...
>
> So Mike is going with the Asrock AM2NF3-VSTA. I'm currently on the
> Gigabyte
> K8NS Ultra which for me at least ran well for about a month before
> deteriorating
> into multiple replacements and a general disdain for life and
> computerness.
>
> The Asrock looks ok to me, and apparently I can use a dual processor now,
> and I think I can actually get one here (thought they are rare it seems).
>
> Just thought I'd fly the flag before a purchase. The credit card is pretty
> much out and I'm hoping to have something ordered in the next 18 hours...
> unless somebody tries defiantly to argue that my Paris system has
> something
> else wrong with it...
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
Re: Paris Motherboards - So what's the fashion? [message #94088 is a reply to message #94087] Thu, 27 December 2007 16:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim is currently offline  Kim
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"Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>Just make absolutely sure your eds cards aren't the problem.....

They may well be... but I don't trust the MB anyhow. For starters it has
dual BIOS for virus protection, and won't boot from the primary BIOS. Hasn't
for ages. So it has at least one known issue.

I figure that money spent on a new MB won't be wasted anyhow. Given both
EDS cards are doing the same thing, it also seems highly possible that if
they are damaged, it was done by the MB, so I'd like to replace that before
going further.

No point buying another EDS and then ruining that as well. There are only
so many left...

Cheers,
Kim.
Re: Paris Motherboards - So what's the fashion? [message #94094 is a reply to message #94086] Thu, 27 December 2007 19:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim W is currently offline  Kim W
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Hi Kim.
I didn't know Paris could run on a dual processor. How So?
Anyway, My Paris comp mb (also K8NS ultra) died on me a couple of weeks back,
just before a session.
No sign of life at all. I had a second one in my Cubase comp,
which I was able to butcher and get up and running again with no hiccups.
I have since built a rockin' cubase box with one of the newer Gigabyte x2
boards and an x2 6000+. It has 4 pci slots, TI firewire etc.
Wonder if this would make a good paris box.
I'm a little nervous about not having a spare k8ns, so If you
successfuly retire yours, coul;d I stick my hand up and nab yours
for experimentation purposes? I have processors.
I'd like to see what you eventually use.
Happy new year,
Kim

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>I'm after something in brown. I've never been a fan of green PCB's...
>
>...err...
>
>So Mike is going with the Asrock AM2NF3-VSTA. I'm currently on the Gigabyte
>K8NS Ultra which for me at least ran well for about a month before deteriorating
>into multiple replacements and a general disdain for life and computerness.
>
>The Asrock looks ok to me, and apparently I can use a dual processor now,
>and I think I can actually get one here (thought they are rare it seems).
>
>Just thought I'd fly the flag before a purchase. The credit card is pretty
>much out and I'm hoping to have something ordered in the next 18 hours...
> unless somebody tries defiantly to argue that my Paris system has something
>else wrong with it...
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
Re: Paris Motherboards - So what's the fashion? [message #94095 is a reply to message #94094] Thu, 27 December 2007 18:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej is currently offline  Deej   FRANCE
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Makes me nervous too. I'm running two of these mobos, two similar ones died
last year and I've got one good backup. They are phenomenal performers with
UAD-1 cards and RME cards and I'm running Opteron 185's in mine, but I'm
hoping what I've got will last me until the x-scaling issues are sorted out
with the dual socket/quad core mobos and Steinberg software.

I've always got my eye peeled for another one of these boards, just in case.


"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote in message news:47745ba2$1@linux...
>
> Hi Kim.
> I didn't know Paris could run on a dual processor. How So?
> Anyway, My Paris comp mb (also K8NS ultra) died on me a couple of weeks
> back,
> just before a session.
> No sign of life at all. I had a second one in my Cubase comp,
> which I was able to butcher and get up and running again with no hiccups.
> I have since built a rockin' cubase box with one of the newer Gigabyte x2
> boards and an x2 6000+. It has 4 pci slots, TI firewire etc.
> Wonder if this would make a good paris box.
> I'm a little nervous about not having a spare k8ns, so If you
> successfuly retire yours, coul;d I stick my hand up and nab yours
> for experimentation purposes? I have processors.
> I'd like to see what you eventually use.
> Happy new year,
> Kim
>
> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>I'm after something in brown. I've never been a fan of green PCB's...
>>
>>...err...
>>
>>So Mike is going with the Asrock AM2NF3-VSTA. I'm currently on the
>>Gigabyte
>>K8NS Ultra which for me at least ran well for about a month before
>>deteriorating
>>into multiple replacements and a general disdain for life and
>>computerness.
>>
>>The Asrock looks ok to me, and apparently I can use a dual processor now,
>>and I think I can actually get one here (thought they are rare it seems).
>>
>>Just thought I'd fly the flag before a purchase. The credit card is pretty
>>much out and I'm hoping to have something ordered in the next 18 hours...
>> unless somebody tries defiantly to argue that my Paris system has
>> something
>>else wrong with it...
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>
Re: Paris Motherboards - So what's the fashion? [message #94096 is a reply to message #94094] Thu, 27 December 2007 20:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim is currently offline  Kim
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Yep. Assuming I go ahead (about 80-90% at this stage) the old board is yours.
It's still booting and the rest. I'd be cautious about putting PCI cards
in it until I have checked that the EDS's still work, but we'll negotiate
that as I move forward testing.

I'll ship it to you with all the other stuff I have of yours... ;o)

Cheers,
Kim.

"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>
>Hi Kim.
>I didn't know Paris could run on a dual processor. How So?
>Anyway, My Paris comp mb (also K8NS ultra) died on me a couple of weeks
back,
>just before a session.
>No sign of life at all. I had a second one in my Cubase comp,
>which I was able to butcher and get up and running again with no hiccups.
>I have since built a rockin' cubase box with one of the newer Gigabyte x2
>boards and an x2 6000+. It has 4 pci slots, TI firewire etc.
>Wonder if this would make a good paris box.
>I'm a little nervous about not having a spare k8ns, so If you
>successfuly retire yours, coul;d I stick my hand up and nab yours
>for experimentation purposes? I have processors.
>I'd like to see what you eventually use.
>Happy new year,
>Kim
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>I'm after something in brown. I've never been a fan of green PCB's...
>>
>>...err...
>>
>>So Mike is going with the Asrock AM2NF3-VSTA. I'm currently on the Gigabyte
>>K8NS Ultra which for me at least ran well for about a month before deteriorating
>>into multiple replacements and a general disdain for life and computerness.
>>
>>The Asrock looks ok to me, and apparently I can use a dual processor now,
>>and I think I can actually get one here (thought they are rare it seems).
>>
>>Just thought I'd fly the flag before a purchase. The credit card is pretty
>>much out and I'm hoping to have something ordered in the next 18 hours...
>> unless somebody tries defiantly to argue that my Paris system has something
>>else wrong with it...
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>
Re: Paris Motherboards - So what's the fashion? [message #94097 is a reply to message #94095] Thu, 27 December 2007 20:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim is currently offline  Kim
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Registered: October 2005
Senior Member
I have taken mine back twice. Once it was replaced, the other time it was
"worked on".

The first one I got was really good for about 3-4 weeks. After that there
have been little tiny issues constantly. Nothing big enough to make me rip
it out, but every week or so I get some issue and go "I'm sure this MB is
no good..."

Cheers,
Kim.

"Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote:
>Makes me nervous too. I'm running two of these mobos, two similar ones died

>last year and I've got one good backup. They are phenomenal performers with

>UAD-1 cards and RME cards and I'm running Opteron 185's in mine, but I'm

>hoping what I've got will last me until the x-scaling issues are sorted
out
>with the dual socket/quad core mobos and Steinberg software.
>
>I've always got my eye peeled for another one of these boards, just in case.
>
>
>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote in message news:47745ba2$1@linux...
>>
>> Hi Kim.
>> I didn't know Paris could run on a dual processor. How So?
>> Anyway, My Paris comp mb (also K8NS ultra) died on me a couple of weeks

>> back,
>> just before a session.
>> No sign of life at all. I had a second one in my Cubase comp,
>> which I was able to butcher and get up and running again with no hiccups.
>> I have since built a rockin' cubase box with one of the newer Gigabyte
x2
>> boards and an x2 6000+. It has 4 pci slots, TI firewire etc.
>> Wonder if this would make a good paris box.
>> I'm a little nervous about not having a spare k8ns, so If you
>> successfuly retire yours, coul;d I stick my hand up and nab yours
>> for experimentation purposes? I have processors.
>> I'd like to see what you eventually use.
>> Happy new year,
>> Kim
>>
>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>I'm after something in brown. I've never been a fan of green PCB's...
>>>
>>>...err...
>>>
>>>So Mike is going with the Asrock AM2NF3-VSTA. I'm currently on the
>>>Gigabyte
>>>K8NS Ultra which for me at least ran well for about a month before
>>>deteriorating
>>>into multiple replacements and a general disdain for life and
>>>computerness.
>>>
>>>The Asrock looks ok to me, and apparently I can use a dual processor now,
>>>and I think I can actually get one here (thought they are rare it seems).
>>>
>>>Just thought I'd fly the flag before a purchase. The credit card is pretty
>>>much out and I'm hoping to have something ordered in the next 18 hours...
>>> unless somebody tries defiantly to argue that my Paris system has
>>> something
>>>else wrong with it...
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>
>
>
Re: Paris Motherboards - So what's the fashion? [message #94098 is a reply to message #94096] Thu, 27 December 2007 20:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim W is currently offline  Kim W
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Registered: July 2006
Senior Member
Hey thanks, Kim
Hold off shipping, as I may well be in Melb in a couple of weeks or so.
If I have success with the board, I'm happy to pay you for it, as
I cannot find any retailer in OZ that still carry these.
Kim

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Yep. Assuming I go ahead (about 80-90% at this stage) the old board is yours.
>It's still booting and the rest. I'd be cautious about putting PCI cards
>in it until I have checked that the EDS's still work, but we'll negotiate
>that as I move forward testing.
>
>I'll ship it to you with all the other stuff I have of yours... ;o)
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hi Kim.
>>I didn't know Paris could run on a dual processor. How So?
>>Anyway, My Paris comp mb (also K8NS ultra) died on me a couple of weeks
>back,
>>just before a session.
>>No sign of life at all. I had a second one in my Cubase comp,
>>which I was able to butcher and get up and running again with no hiccups.
>>I have since built a rockin' cubase box with one of the newer Gigabyte
x2
>>boards and an x2 6000+. It has 4 pci slots, TI firewire etc.
>>Wonder if this would make a good paris box.
>>I'm a little nervous about not having a spare k8ns, so If you
>>successfuly retire yours, coul;d I stick my hand up and nab yours
>>for experimentation purposes? I have processors.
>>I'd like to see what you eventually use.
>>Happy new year,
>>Kim
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>I'm after something in brown. I've never been a fan of green PCB's...
>>>
>>>...err...
>>>
>>>So Mike is going with the Asrock AM2NF3-VSTA. I'm currently on the Gigabyte
>>>K8NS Ultra which for me at least ran well for about a month before deteriorating
>>>into multiple replacements and a general disdain for life and computerness.
>>>
>>>The Asrock looks ok to me, and apparently I can use a dual processor now,
>>>and I think I can actually get one here (thought they are rare it seems).
>>>
>>>Just thought I'd fly the flag before a purchase. The credit card is pretty
>>>much out and I'm hoping to have something ordered in the next 18 hours...
>>> unless somebody tries defiantly to argue that my Paris system has something
>>>else wrong with it...
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>
>
Re: Paris Motherboards - So what's the fashion? [message #94099 is a reply to message #94098] Thu, 27 December 2007 20:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim is currently offline  Kim
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"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>I'm happy to pay you for it...

I'd rather you just take it if that's cool. Aside from the fact that you
already gave me a bunch of free stuff, I don't think it's right to charge
you for something which I believe to be faulty. It's still useful for certain
testing I imagine, but I wouldn't use it as your prime machine, and wouldn't
make reliability judgements based on it. More just a compatibility and setup
device.

In any case... you gave me free "obsolete" stuff, and I'm happy to do the
same for you. No stress.

Cheers,
Kim.
Re: Paris Motherboards - So what's the fashion? [message #94100 is a reply to message #94086] Thu, 27 December 2007 20:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LaMontt  is currently offline  LaMontt   
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Hi Kim and others, I feel your KNS8 pain (2) deceased..However, like my late
dad always told me: "Buy Cheap, Buy again".. So, for now on, I only buy server
graded Motherboards ..

This is the board I'm using in all of my rack-mounted DAWS
http://www.digiconcepts.com/tyan_motherboards_77.htm

This board is very PAris Friendly and is current at the same time..

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>I'm after something in brown. I've never been a fan of green PCB's...
>
>...err...
>
>So Mike is going with the Asrock AM2NF3-VSTA. I'm currently on the Gigabyte
>K8NS Ultra which for me at least ran well for about a month before deteriorating
>into multiple replacements and a general disdain for life and computerness.
>
>The Asrock looks ok to me, and apparently I can use a dual processor now,
>and I think I can actually get one here (thought they are rare it seems).
>
>Just thought I'd fly the flag before a purchase. The credit card is pretty
>much out and I'm hoping to have something ordered in the next 18 hours...
> unless somebody tries defiantly to argue that my Paris system has something
>else wrong with it...
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
Re: Paris Motherboards - So what's the fashion? [message #94101 is a reply to message #94100] Thu, 27 December 2007 21:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim is currently offline  Kim
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Registered: October 2005
Senior Member
LaMont,

Ya know, I'd almost go there.

What are the plugs behind the PCI slot which the EDS cards are potentially
going to interfere with? Looks suspiciously like the IDE plugs (I'm sure
it is) and something else. Do EDS cards fit without interrupting these or
do I need full SATA gear?

I already have two 250Gig SATA drives anyhow...

What Paris systems have you run with this board?

Given I really do see this as "the final" paris box, I would like it to just
be rock solid for 20 years, so the extra $70 to buy this one isn't really
relevant if it doubles the chance of a long trouble free lifespan.

Cheers,
Kim.


"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Hi Kim and others, I feel your KNS8 pain (2) deceased..However, like my
late
>dad always told me: "Buy Cheap, Buy again".. So, for now on, I only buy
server
>graded Motherboards ..
>
>This is the board I'm using in all of my rack-mounted DAWS
>http://www.digiconcepts.com/tyan_motherboards_77.htm
>
>This board is very PAris Friendly and is current at the same time..
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>I'm after something in brown. I've never been a fan of green PCB's...
>>
>>...err...
>>
>>So Mike is going with the Asrock AM2NF3-VSTA. I'm currently on the Gigabyte
>>K8NS Ultra which for me at least ran well for about a month before deteriorating
>>into multiple replacements and a general disdain for life and computerness.
>>
>>The Asrock looks ok to me, and apparently I can use a dual processor now,
>>and I think I can actually get one here (thought they are rare it seems).
>>
>>Just thought I'd fly the flag before a purchase. The credit card is pretty
>>much out and I'm hoping to have something ordered in the next 18 hours...
>> unless somebody tries defiantly to argue that my Paris system has something
>>else wrong with it...
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>
Re: Paris Motherboards - So what's the fashion? [message #94102 is a reply to message #94101] Thu, 27 December 2007 21:36 Go to previous message
LaMontt  is currently offline  LaMontt   
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Registered: January 2007
Senior Member

Good questions: (2) Eide slots...4(sata 3.0) slots, even buit-in firewire
which is nice.

However, continue to follow the PCI rules that we've always followed with
EDS cards. All Slots will work if you have 4 cards, but you should disable
a few of the usb2 ports..

Plenty of room for the EDS cards and it does interfere with the IDE ribbon
cable(s)..

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>LaMont,
>
>Ya know, I'd almost go there.
>
>What are the plugs behind the PCI slot which the EDS cards are potentially
>going to interfere with? Looks suspiciously like the IDE plugs (I'm sure
>it is) and something else. Do EDS cards fit without interrupting these or
>do I need full SATA gear?
>
>I already have two 250Gig SATA drives anyhow...
>
>What Paris systems have you run with this board?
>
>Given I really do see this as "the final" paris box, I would like it to
just
>be rock solid for 20 years, so the extra $70 to buy this one isn't really
>relevant if it doubles the chance of a long trouble free lifespan.
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hi Kim and others, I feel your KNS8 pain (2) deceased..However, like my
>late
>>dad always told me: "Buy Cheap, Buy again".. So, for now on, I only buy
>server
>>graded Motherboards ..
>>
>>This is the board I'm using in all of my rack-mounted DAWS
>>http://www.digiconcepts.com/tyan_motherboards_77.htm
>>
>>This board is very PAris Friendly and is current at the same time..
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>I'm after something in brown. I've never been a fan of green PCB's...
>>>
>>>...err...
>>>
>>>So Mike is going with the Asrock AM2NF3-VSTA. I'm currently on the Gigabyte
>>>K8NS Ultra which for me at least ran well for about a month before deteriorating
>>>into multiple replacements and a general disdain for life and computerness.
>>>
>>>The Asrock looks ok to me, and apparently I can use a dual processor now,
>>>and I think I can actually get one here (thought they are rare it seems).
>>>
>>>Just thought I'd fly the flag before a purchase. The credit card is pretty
>>>much out and I'm hoping to have something ordered in the next 18 hours...
>>> unless somebody tries defiantly to argue that my Paris system has something
>>>else wrong with it...
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>
>
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