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Cheapest FAST new computer [message #97551] Sat, 29 March 2008 06:06 Go to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]
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I've got a desktop pc that is a turd. Celeron 2.6Mhz, rates about 350 on
Passmark Charts.

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/

I want to build a new pc that is about 1500 on the charts like an e6600 core
2 duo. I'd like to reuse my IDE drives and have capability to go Sata in
the future and I want a silent power supply. 4GB ram. Any ideas for the
cheapest way to get there?

The e6600 is about $200 on ebay and i'm not stuck on that processor but one
in that range. This box is just for writing code, database stuff and non
music stuff.

Thanks,
John
Re: Cheapest FAST new computer [message #97555 is a reply to message #97551] Sat, 29 March 2008 08:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
chuck duffy is currently offline  chuck duffy
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John,

I would take a pass through a couple electronics stores in your area. Last
year I was planning to build, but found a decent dual core with sata drives
and good video for around 450 bucks. I popped two more gb of ram into it,
formatted it and installed XP pro which I already had a license for. Total
cost was around 550 for a damn fast machine.

Chuck

"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>I've got a desktop pc that is a turd. Celeron 2.6Mhz, rates about 350
on
>Passmark Charts.
>
>http://www.cpubenchmark.net/
>
>I want to build a new pc that is about 1500 on the charts like an e6600
core
>2 duo. I'd like to reuse my IDE drives and have capability to go Sata in
>the future and I want a silent power supply. 4GB ram. Any ideas for the
>cheapest way to get there?
>
>The e6600 is about $200 on ebay and i'm not stuck on that processor but
one
>in that range. This box is just for writing code, database stuff and non
>music stuff.
>
>Thanks,
>John
Re: Cheapest FAST new computer [message #97557 is a reply to message #97555] Sat, 29 March 2008 08:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
chuck duffy is currently offline  chuck duffy
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ps - in my local office depot there was an open box quad core HP with 3 GB
of ram, 512 dedicated video, tv tuner, HDMI output, 500 GB sata, 120 GB porta
drive - for 650 bucks last week.

Chuck
"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>
>John,
>
>I would take a pass through a couple electronics stores in your area. Last
>year I was planning to build, but found a decent dual core with sata drives
>and good video for around 450 bucks. I popped two more gb of ram into it,
>formatted it and installed XP pro which I already had a license for. Total
>cost was around 550 for a damn fast machine.
>
>Chuck
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>
>>I've got a desktop pc that is a turd. Celeron 2.6Mhz, rates about 350
>on
>>Passmark Charts.
>>
>>http://www.cpubenchmark.net/
>>
>>I want to build a new pc that is about 1500 on the charts like an e6600
>core
>>2 duo. I'd like to reuse my IDE drives and have capability to go Sata
in
>>the future and I want a silent power supply. 4GB ram. Any ideas for the
>>cheapest way to get there?
>>
>>The e6600 is about $200 on ebay and i'm not stuck on that processor but
>one
>>in that range. This box is just for writing code, database stuff and non
>>music stuff.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>John
>
Re: Cheapest FAST new computer [message #97558 is a reply to message #97551] Sat, 29 March 2008 07:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Ludwig is currently offline  Chris Ludwig   UNITED STATES
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HI John,
Are you DYIing the system? If so you can get a hellva allot more than a
E6600.
What is the system gonna be used for? I can suggest some parts if I know
what you planing with the system.

Chris

John wrote:
> I've got a desktop pc that is a turd. Celeron 2.6Mhz, rates about 350 on
> Passmark Charts.
>
> http://www.cpubenchmark.net/
>
> I want to build a new pc that is about 1500 on the charts like an e6600 core
> 2 duo. I'd like to reuse my IDE drives and have capability to go Sata in
> the future and I want a silent power supply. 4GB ram. Any ideas for the
> cheapest way to get there?
>
> The e6600 is about $200 on ebay and i'm not stuck on that processor but one
> in that range. This box is just for writing code, database stuff and non
> music stuff.
>
> Thanks,
> John
>

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www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
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Re: Cheapest FAST new computer [message #97571 is a reply to message #97558] Sat, 29 March 2008 14:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]
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thanks guys, i went and bought one. got parts from my local guy and got a
MS-7357 motherboard G33M, e6750 cpu w/ 2gb dual channel ram, antec power,
80gb sata, case and dvd burner for $875.

I went to circuit city to look at the hp and the sales people were so lame
a i walked out. The hp would do dual monitor so that was no good for me.
I'm just doing coding, database stuff and some games so this box sound do
well. I'm doing my 89 windows updates as we speek so it's up and running.

Thanks !
John
Re: Cheapest FAST new computer [message #97575 is a reply to message #97571] Sat, 29 March 2008 17:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [5] is currently offline  Deej [5]
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I was looking at the ADK website while ago and for a little over =
$1500.00 I could get a quad core screamer with the OS already installed =
and tweaked. All I'd need to do would be to add a couple of the 500G =
SATA drives I've got here as backups and I'd be set.

Yeah, I could build it cheaper, but not much and when I figure in all =
the time it takes to build it, load the OS, mobo drivers, optomize it =
and burn it in, paying them the extra $$ for their time and expertise =
makes sense in my situation.

I'm really thinking seriously about this. I'd like to be able to track =
at 64k with the Cubase control room. I've been using it at 128k and it's =
tolerable, but the difference bettween 64k and 128k is noticeable to my =
ears. 64k is equivalent to what I hear using Totalmix, and the more I =
get into Totalmix, the more sense it makes. It's also much easier to =
deal with when you're only using one audio interface for all your =
tracking/playback. I'll have that situation sussed in about a week.




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> thanks guys, i went and bought one. got parts from my local guy and =
got a
> MS-7357 motherboard G33M, e6750 cpu w/ 2gb dual channel ram, antec =
power,
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> a i walked out. The hp would do dual monitor so that was no good for =
me.
> I'm just doing coding, database stuff and some games so this box sound =
do
> well. I'm doing my 89 windows updates as we speek so it's up and =
running.
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> Thanks !
> John
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Re: Cheapest FAST new computer [message #97576 is a reply to message #97575] Sat, 29 March 2008 18:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]
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total time for me to assemble and install os, updates and drivers 5 hours
Re: Cheapest FAST new computer [message #97577 is a reply to message #97571] Sat, 29 March 2008 18:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Ludwig is currently offline  Chris Ludwig   UNITED STATES
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Hi John,

John wrote:
> thanks guys, i went and bought one. got parts from my local guy and got a
> MS-7357 motherboard G33M, e6750 cpu w/ 2gb dual channel ram, antec power,
> 80gb sata, case and dvd burner for $875.
>
I assume thats pre-built not just parts? If it's just part then that is
really high priced for that stuff.

The list of stuff you have here is about $500-$600 worth of parts.
> I went to circuit city to look at the hp and the sales people were so lame
> a i walked out. The hp would do dual monitor so that was no good for me.
> I'm just doing coding, database stuff and some games so this box sound do
> well. I'm doing my 89 windows updates as we speek so it's up and running.
>
If you are using the on board video don't expect much to happen when it
comes to games.

> Thanks !
> John
>
But you did support a local business so you did good thing. :)

Chris

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ADK
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www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762
Re: Cheapest FAST new computer [message #97578 is a reply to message #97575] Sat, 29 March 2008 18:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Ludwig is currently offline  Chris Ludwig   UNITED STATES
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HI DJ,
You can configure a system w/ tower, power supply, Q6600, 2 gigs ram
160 gig OS, 320g audio drive, Geforce 8600GT dual head video (fan less),
DVD burner, XP Pro, 1 yr warranty, life time tech support for $1437.00.
We will putting out a sub $1000 in a week or so sense we Americans is so
poor. :)
Our overseas sales have went thought the roof lately. :) We don't cover
any shipping with our warranty for overseas systems just life time
phone/email support. But even with them paying the shippings with a
warranty issue of some sort it is still less money that buying it in
their country. jeez.
The overseas sales that always make me laugh are the ones we get from
Taiwan, Hong Kong and India.
Chris

Mr. Simplicity wrote:
> I was looking at the ADK website while ago and for a little over
> $1500.00 I could get a quad core /screamer /with the OS already
> installed and tweaked. All I'd need to do would be to add a couple of
> the 500G SATA drives I've got here as backups and I'd be set.
>
> Yeah, I could build it cheaper, but not much and when I figure in all
> the time it takes to build it, load the OS, mobo drivers, optomize it
> and burn it in, paying them the extra $$ for their time and expertise
> makes sense in my situation.
>
> I'm really thinking seriously about this. I'd like to be able to track
> at 64k with the Cubase control room. I've been using it at 128k and
> it's tolerable, but the difference bettween 64k and 128k is noticeable
> to my ears. 64k is equivalent to what I hear using Totalmix, and the
> more I get into Totalmix, the more sense it makes. It's also much
> easier to deal with when you're only using one audio interface for all
> your tracking/playback. I'll have that situation sussed in about a week.
>
>
>
>
> "John" <no@no.com <mailto:no@no.com>> wrote in message
> news:47eeb930$1@linux...
> >
> > thanks guys, i went and bought one. got parts from my local guy and
> got a
> > MS-7357 motherboard G33M, e6750 cpu w/ 2gb dual channel ram, antec
> power,
> > 80gb sata, case and dvd burner for $875.
> >
> > I went to circuit city to look at the hp and the sales people were
> so lame
> > a i walked out. The hp would do dual monitor so that was no good
> for me.
> > I'm just doing coding, database stuff and some games so this box
> sound do
> > well. I'm doing my 89 windows updates as we speek so it's up and
> running.
> >
> > Thanks !
> > John

--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762
Re: Cheapest FAST new computer [message #97580 is a reply to message #97578] Sat, 29 March 2008 19:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [5] is currently offline  Deej [5]
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I'm thinking of spending a little bit more and getting the RAID 0 setup.
This box will likely be doing a bit of video editing as well.

I'll probably get a PCIe card for one of my Magma's and either try that with
my Magma holding the RME cards and interface the other Magma with the UAD-1
cards in one of the PCI slots, or I'll just yank the MADI and AES32 out of
the Magma, load them in the 2 x PCI slots on the MOBO and then try
interfacing the other Magma with the DSP processors in one of the PCIe
slots. You got a mobo that you think would handle this? Are you guys OC'ing
these quads to 3GHZ?

Deej


"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:47eeee60@linux...
> HI DJ,
> You can configure a system w/ tower, power supply, Q6600, 2 gigs ram 160
> gig OS, 320g audio drive, Geforce 8600GT dual head video (fan less), DVD
> burner, XP Pro, 1 yr warranty, life time tech support for $1437.00. We
> will putting out a sub $1000 in a week or so sense we Americans is so
> poor. :)
> Our overseas sales have went thought the roof lately. :) We don't cover
> any shipping with our warranty for overseas systems just life time
> phone/email support. But even with them paying the shippings with a
> warranty issue of some sort it is still less money that buying it in their
> country. jeez.
> The overseas sales that always make me laugh are the ones we get from
> Taiwan, Hong Kong and India.
> Chris
>
> Mr. Simplicity wrote:
>> I was looking at the ADK website while ago and for a little over $1500.00
>> I could get a quad core /screamer /with the OS already installed and
>> tweaked. All I'd need to do would be to add a couple of the 500G SATA
>> drives I've got here as backups and I'd be set.
>> Yeah, I could build it cheaper, but not much and when I figure in all
>> the time it takes to build it, load the OS, mobo drivers, optomize it and
>> burn it in, paying them the extra $$ for their time and expertise makes
>> sense in my situation.
>> I'm really thinking seriously about this. I'd like to be able to track
>> at 64k with the Cubase control room. I've been using it at 128k and it's
>> tolerable, but the difference bettween 64k and 128k is noticeable to my
>> ears. 64k is equivalent to what I hear using Totalmix, and the more I get
>> into Totalmix, the more sense it makes. It's also much easier to deal
>> with when you're only using one audio interface for all your
>> tracking/playback. I'll have that situation sussed in about a week.
>> "John" <no@no.com <mailto:no@no.com>> wrote in message
>> news:47eeb930$1@linux...
>> >
>> > thanks guys, i went and bought one. got parts from my local guy and
>> got a
>> > MS-7357 motherboard G33M, e6750 cpu w/ 2gb dual channel ram, antec
>> power,
>> > 80gb sata, case and dvd burner for $875.
>> >
>> > I went to circuit city to look at the hp and the sales people were
>> so lame
>> > a i walked out. The hp would do dual monitor so that was no good
>> for me.
>> > I'm just doing coding, database stuff and some games so this box
>> sound do
>> > well. I'm doing my 89 windows updates as we speek so it's up and
>> running.
>> >
>> > Thanks !
>> > John
>
> --
> Chris Ludwig
> ADK
> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> (859) 635-5762
Re: Cheapest FAST new computer [message #97593 is a reply to message #97580] Sun, 30 March 2008 00:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
erlilo is currently offline  erlilo   DENMARK
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If so, remember the echo in your head: Backup, backup, backup,
backup;-).......


"Mr. Simplicity" <noway@jose.net> skrev i en meddelelse
news:47eef99a$1@linux...
> I'm thinking of spending a little bit more and getting the RAID 0 setup.
Re: Cheapest FAST new computer [message #97605 is a reply to message #97593] Sun, 30 March 2008 11:54 Go to previous message
Deej [5] is currently offline  Deej [5]
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"erlilo" <erlingl@tdcadsl.dk> wrote in message news:47ef44a0$1@linux...
> If so, remember the echo in your head: Backup, backup, backup,
> backup;-).......
>

Yes, I know. I recently purchased two 750G drives because of that echo.

;o)
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