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mikeaudet   CANADA
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Hi All,

Thanks so much for all your kind words, patience, and encouragement over the past several years. I've added the 32/64 bit driver installer to my webstore. I'm sorry that the website is so crap, but there is so little time, and I'd rather fix PARIS code than the site.

https://ensoniq.ca/product_info.php/cPath/27/products_id/44

I started working on the ASIO driver again yesterday, and I have big plans for it.

I hope this helps keep PARIS current for as many of you guys as possible.

All the best!

Mike

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Re: PARIS 32/64 driver package available now! [message #107639 is a reply to message #107638] Sun, 28 April 2013 13:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Promoted and stickied - woot Mike, just awesome!!! Congratulations, and huge thanks!

"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
Re: PARIS 32/64 driver package available now! [message #107644 is a reply to message #107639] Sun, 28 April 2013 14:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Micha is currently offline  Micha   GERMANY
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yeaah!
Re: PARIS 32/64 driver package available now! [message #107647 is a reply to message #107644] Sun, 28 April 2013 20:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ted Gerber is currently offline  Ted Gerber   CANADA
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Thanks Mike!
Re: PARIS 32/64 driver package available now! [message #107654 is a reply to message #107647] Mon, 29 April 2013 18:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
imajon is currently offline  imajon   UNITED STATES
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Just Downloaded mine!
Thanks Mike
Re: PARIS 32/64 driver package available now! [message #107663 is a reply to message #107654] Wed, 01 May 2013 11:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
imajon is currently offline  imajon   UNITED STATES
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I just would like to clarify if Paris 3.0 at this time wont run at all on a 64 bit win7 platform because of the pace incompatibility issue? I got Paris 2 up and running OK with Mikes help (thank you Mike!) I did try to install 3.0 and it does nothing. I tried to install the Pace driver from my Win7 32 bit build which is a bit older version but no go. Or maybe I just did it wrong. I understand I cant legally run it until the pace thing gets sorted out but was just hoping to see if it would at least run in demo mode for a period just to see how it did..
Thanks

Re: PARIS 32/64 driver package available now! [message #107664 is a reply to message #107663] Wed, 01 May 2013 12:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mikeaudet   CANADA
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Hi Jon,

I'm sorry to say, that under Windows 7 it was the PACE code itself that crashed for me. I didn't even see the demo screen to click past it.

I tried for two solid days to get it to work, and I got nowhere.

Sorry.

Mike
Re: PARIS 32/64 driver package available now! [message #107665 is a reply to message #107664] Wed, 01 May 2013 12:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
imajon is currently offline  imajon   UNITED STATES
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Thanks
Hopefully ID will allow you to disable the Pace requirement.
Thanks for all your good work!
Re: PARIS 32/64 driver package available now! [message #107671 is a reply to message #107665] Thu, 02 May 2013 10:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mikeaudet   CANADA
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Thanks so much for all the support! There is going to be a maintenance update as soon as I can test one more system. I found a bug this morning that affects some systems and not others. It's fixed. I also fixed an issue that prevented 8 in cards in the higher number MEC slots from being detected. I'll be email the new installer to everyone that bought it.

All the best!

Mike
Re: PARIS 32/64 driver package available now! [message #107677 is a reply to message #107671] Sat, 04 May 2013 12:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
laurent is currently offline  laurent   FRANCE
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when it s possible to buy your new asio diver
i m very very impatient
thanks pour votre travail mike

laurent
Re: PARIS 32/64 driver package available now! [message #107678 is a reply to message #107677] Sat, 04 May 2013 12:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This is going to be one of PARIS's best years.

"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
Re: PARIS 32/64 driver package available now! [message #107679 is a reply to message #107678] Sat, 04 May 2013 14:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
laurent is currently offline  laurent   FRANCE
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prendre le temps de prendre son temps,meme avec du poison

laurent
Re: PARIS Win7/Win8 32/64 driver package available now! [message #107687 is a reply to message #107638] Tue, 07 May 2013 01:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cesmag is currently offline  cesmag   ITALY
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Bought the driver, works perfectly. Thanks Mike for all your efforts, you did a great job !!
When the asio driver is ready I'll be the first in line
Re: PARIS Win7/Win8 32/64 driver package available now! [message #107719 is a reply to message #107638] Mon, 20 May 2013 08:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ronj_91602 is currently offline  ronj_91602   UNITED STATES
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I am going to buy the driver but I don't quite understand how to do this after all I am just a "Musician" Ha! Can I just upgrade to Windows 7 and add the driver or do I have to go through the process of loading Paris again? I have the latest Pace driver. By the way I bought the latest Slate Virtual channel and it is GREAT!!! Talk about having the fatness of Paris and this Slate VCC is unbelievable!
Re: PARIS Win7/Win8 32/64 driver package available now! [message #107721 is a reply to message #107719] Tue, 21 May 2013 07:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mikeaudet   CANADA
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Hi Ron,

The new installer includes options for installing PARIS 3.0 and 2.1. So, you don't need the original installer anymore. However, because of the PACE copy protection embedded in PARIS 3.0, PARIS 3.0 will not run under Windows 7 64, even with the PACE driver installed.

If you wanted to use PARIS 3.0 on a 64 bit windows, you could contact ID and see if they will give you a pace free copy or permission to remove the PACE copy protection yourself. They wouldn't even address the question when I contacted them.

I hope this clears up your questions!

Mike

PS - I'm checking out vcc demos right now. Smile
Re: PARIS Win7/Win8 32/64 driver package available now! [message #107722 is a reply to message #107721] Tue, 21 May 2013 10:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ronj_91602 is currently offline  ronj_91602   UNITED STATES
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I ordered the driver today. I have a question. If I pick the 3.0 version do I have to get the license from Intelligent Devices for the Paris program to get it up and running again? And, if I already have the latest Pace driver do I have to reinstall it?
Re: PARIS Win7/Win8 32/64 driver package available now! [message #107723 is a reply to message #107721] Wed, 22 May 2013 07:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The Slate VCC is a very interesting plugin. I've been using it for a week and I like some of the sounds. Like most amps, the more you drive it the more saturation you hear...so there can be some distortion...good or bad...depends I guess.

As for the character of the different consoles they do have their own different flavor...but at some point you'll find that if you can hear the contrast...it might be too much.

I like it because it can give a track a little more warmth and presence making it easier to mix. I think it's nice to have.

Re: PARIS Win7/Win8 32/64 driver package available now! [message #107724 is a reply to message #107723] Wed, 22 May 2013 08:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ronj_91602 is currently offline  ronj_91602   UNITED STATES
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I find that the VCC is really good on vocals if you want to get it really out front and full or if a guitar or bass part is a little wimpy it will put in your face with warmth. I've tried it on every track and it tends to get muddy have to watch the saturation. But when you are used to the warmth of Paris it just adds a little edge and analog headroom
Re: PARIS Win7/Win8 32/64 driver package available now! [message #107725 is a reply to message #107722] Wed, 22 May 2013 09:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mikeaudet   CANADA
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Hi Ron,

If you're just going to update the driver on an existing 32 bit PARIS system, I don't think it will affect the PACE activation that is already in place. Just make sure that you de-select the PARIS 3.0 option in the installer.

If you're installing PARIS on a new 32 bit system, you'll need to install the PACE driver (I'm not sure if it being the latest/greatest matters) and send ID the challenge code that comes up.

On a 64 bit system, the PACE code embedded in PARIS.exe does not work, even with the latest/greatest PACE driver installed. In fact, not only did PARIS not work, the PACE driver broke my Windows 7 64 system so badly that I had to reinstall Windows from scratch.

I hope this helps!

Mike
Re: PARIS Win7/Win8 32/64 driver package available now! [message #107726 is a reply to message #107725] Wed, 22 May 2013 11:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ronj_91602 is currently offline  ronj_91602   UNITED STATES
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Thanks Mike,
I bought the driver yesterday and will be installing it after this week as I am working on some movie tracks and can't afford any downtime or problems until I get back from LA. I will keep you up to date and thank you so much for all your endeavors. I know $50 does not even cover the sweat you put out! Hope all is well with your family. Long live PARIS!!
Re: PARIS Win7/Win8 32/64 driver package available now! [message #107727 is a reply to message #107638] Wed, 22 May 2013 15:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
justcosmic is currently offline  justcosmic   UNITED KINGDOM
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This is quite simply amazing...a major achievement.

...and you're already talking about what next!...
I think a victory lap of honour is called for first Very Happy

I just checked in by chance, and really expected this would still be miles off...hats off.

I think this is a game changer...and yes this certainly is keeping Paris very relevant indeed.

Thank you sooooooo much Mike - this has made my day
Re: PARIS Win7/Win8 32/64 driver package available now! [message #107728 is a reply to message #107638] Wed, 22 May 2013 18:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
justcosmic is currently offline  justcosmic   UNITED KINGDOM
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Just a quick comment in response to the "what next" - I have one suggestion to make:

If the PARIS driver could appear as an ASIO host then it could communicate with a program like "Jack" and pass audio to and from other applications without the need for an additional sound card to stream Adat (for example).

I don't know how much additional work that would be, but seeing as Jack already exists, maybe it would not be so much work.

Obviously being able to natively access Paris via some kind of Reaper extension would also be awesome, but I wonder if this might be a quicker result?



Re: PARIS Win7/Win8 32/64 driver package available now! [message #107732 is a reply to message #107721] Tue, 28 May 2013 04:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mike,
Would it be wise for some of us to email ID for the PACE issue? It might turn them off totally or may get a positive response. If u think the latter then who and how do I get a hold of at ID.
Thank You
Ron
Re: PARIS Win7/Win8 32/64 driver package available now! [message #107733 is a reply to message #107732] Tue, 28 May 2013 08:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerryg is currently offline  kerryg   CANADA
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I'm not a lawyer, so don't rely on this. But today's legislation is specifically designed to grant safe harbour to the removal of copy protection which blocks legitimate ongoing use through obsolescence. So the unintended consequence of this release is to checkmate inaction.

"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
Re: PARIS Win7/Win8 32/64 driver package available now! [message #107734 is a reply to message #107733] Tue, 28 May 2013 08:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Excellently spoken/written
Re: PARIS Win7/Win8 32/64 driver package available now! [message #107735 is a reply to message #107732] Tue, 28 May 2013 11:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mikeaudet   CANADA
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Hi Ron,

I have no idea what, if anything, would get ID to help us out.

The last time I heard from Edmund, I felt I was treated with contempt. I'm not saying that's what Edmund intended, but that's how it read to me and how I felt. I'm not going to put myself in a position where I'm repeating that kind of negative interaction. So, I don't see myself contacting him again. He may surprise me and send me an email with all kinds of great things - he may even apologize - but I'm not expecting anything.

In short, do whatever you think is best.

I've been completely swamped with web work for the last few weeks, and I probably will be for the next month or so, but I have started moving more of the PSCL into the scherzo. This is for two reasons: 1) It should have been there in the first place 2) I'm trying to get a deeper understanding of how the application programs the effects into the EDS cards so I can write my own library to do it. I'd then use this in the ASIO driver and whatever comes next.

While I have very little hope that anything more will come out of ID, I'm not crying over it. I'll just carry on.

I really like the PARIS app, and I'll keep using it until I can write a killer ASIO driver that does zero latency monitoring, C16 control, and loads the EDS effects. That's what I'm looking to do.

All the best!

Mike
Re: PARIS Win7/Win8 32/64 driver package available now! [message #107741 is a reply to message #107638] Fri, 31 May 2013 09:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Stephen Stecyk is currently offline  Stephen Stecyk   UNITED STATES
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Hi All,

Just thought I'd share some (hopefully) good news.

I was just in contact with ID support, and was informed that a PACE-free version was in the works, and hopefully ready soon.

If I hear anything else, I'll post here.

Keeping my fingers crossed! Surprised

Stephen
Re: PARIS Win7/Win8 32/64 driver package available now! [message #107742 is a reply to message #107741] Sun, 02 June 2013 18:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ted Gerber is currently offline  Ted Gerber   CANADA
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wow
Re: PARIS Win7/Win8 32/64 driver package available now! [message #107743 is a reply to message #107638] Mon, 03 June 2013 03:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I wonder if the all elusive "native" version is in the works for release.

Very Happy
Re: PARIS Win7/Win8 32/64 driver package available now! [message #107744 is a reply to message #107725] Thu, 06 June 2013 10:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ronj_91602 is currently offline  ronj_91602   UNITED STATES
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Mike, I installed a fresh windows 7 pro 32 bit and the new pace driver and the PARIS driver just checked the 2.0 install and when I try to open a project I get
Error code: 1879048225/70000021 When I installed the pace driver it asked for the installation code but I could not get it to enter anything then it just went into a install. I can't open any project.
Re: PARIS Win7/Win8 32/64 driver package available now! [message #107745 is a reply to message #107744] Thu, 06 June 2013 10:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Are you trying to open a 3.0 project in an earlier version like 2.2?

"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
Re: PARIS Win7/Win8 32/64 driver package available now! [message #107746 is a reply to message #107745] Thu, 06 June 2013 10:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ronj_91602 is currently offline  ronj_91602   UNITED STATES
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Yes it was a 3.0 on the xp
Re: PARIS Win7/Win8 32/64 driver package available now! [message #107747 is a reply to message #107745] Thu, 06 June 2013 12:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ronj_91602 is currently offline  ronj_91602   UNITED STATES
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I have the 3.0 disc can I use it? Or do I have to go thru all the conversions to 2.2?
Re: PARIS Win7/Win8 32/64 driver package available now! [message #107748 is a reply to message #107747] Thu, 06 June 2013 12:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Ron,

Since you're on a 32 bit Windows, you can just install the PACE driver and use the PARIS 3.0 CD to install PARIS 3.0 and contact ID for the challenge response.

You may not need to use the PARIS 3.0 CD. The PACE driver and my installer may be enough. I had to reverse engineer what the installer did, and the PACE part is obfuscated by design, so I have no idea what I might have missed there. I had a commitment from ID that they would provide a PACE free version 6 months before I released the driver, and it never happened. I didn't expect PACE to be an issue still.

I hope this helps.

Mike
Re: PARIS Win7/Win8 32/64 driver package available now! [message #107749 is a reply to message #107748] Thu, 06 June 2013 13:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mike I just installed the 3.0 and driver and it is reading everything but I did get a prompt that it was only for 7 days.
Re: PARIS Win7/Win8 32/64 driver package available now! [message #107750 is a reply to message #107749] Fri, 07 June 2013 01:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Let ID know you're transferring your PARIS 3.0 license from one computer to another (as is perfectly acceptable) and need a new license code (this is of course free). Include your challenge code and maybe let them know you've started the seven day "clock" on the PARIS 3.0 demo on the new computer. Best to do this right away if you haven't already.

"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
Re: PARIS Win7/Win8 32/64 driver package available now! [message #107754 is a reply to message #107750] Mon, 10 June 2013 09:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I notified ID by email but I have not received any answer and the clock is ticking. Is there a phone number I can get to call ID?
Re: PARIS Win7/Win8 32/64 driver package available now! [message #107755 is a reply to message #107754] Mon, 10 June 2013 11:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The last I heard, ID processed license requests once a week, I believe on Tuesdays. I'd hold off til the end of business hours tomorrow EST.

"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
Re: PARIS Win7/Win8 32/64 driver package available now! [message #107756 is a reply to message #107741] Mon, 10 June 2013 13:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Stephen Stecyk wrote on Fri, 31 May 2013 10:12
Hi All,

Just thought I'd share some (hopefully) good news.

I was just in contact with ID support, and was informed that a PACE-free version was in the works, and hopefully ready soon.

If I hear anything else, I'll post here.

Keeping my fingers crossed! Surprised

Stephen



Yeah...this sounds painfully reminiscent of the days when Paris V. 4.0 was supposedly "just around the corner...."

The only Paris software support promises I can believe anymore come from Mike.

-Phil
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Kerry, I am up and running on W Laughing indows 7. ID sent me the code answer and for some reason I had to reload the new adat driver in system 32 because it didn't recognize the MEC modules. Closed Paris, reopened, and the rest is history. I want to thank you and Mike for all your help and hard work, kudos, your good karma will prevail!!!!!! Long live PARIS! Thanks, Ron
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