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Well, FWIW....in case any of you guys get adventurous [message #91687] Sat, 20 October 2007 16:46 Go to previous message
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.....and decide to go down the native path using higher sample rates in the
same way I have de3cided to do, I've got the new DAW(s) in a pretty
bulletproof configuration now with the ability to interface lots of external
boxes (which I would prefer to do, even at lower sample rates).

I had recently purchased a Lucid GenX-96 hoping to use it as a master clock
but I get the Lucid GenX-96 in here and try to slave the MADI card to it and
the MADI card won't slave to it at sample rates above 48KHz. Not the end of
the world, but downright baffling.

What "is" working (and what I'm going to stick with) is to output the MADI
WC to a Mytek Stereo96 AD converter, then take the BNC output of the Mytek
and input this to the Lucid GenX 96 while simultaneously taking the AES
output of the Mytek and patching it into the AES input of my other Lucid
GenX-6 box. Set both Lucid boxes to distro mode with the respective proper
incoming sync formats from the Mytek and use the BNC outs (a total of 12
available) of the Lucid boxes to the following devices which are either
internally terminated or terminated with 75 ohm BNC caps:

RME AES-32
RME ADI 648
RME ADI 4-DD
RME ADi 4-DD
RME ADI 8-DD
RME ADI 8-DD
RME ADI 8-DS
RME ADI 8-DS
RME Multiface

This leaves me three more clock outs for further adventures...........;o)

I'm quite happy with using the MADI as WC master, it just seems strange that
it will not lock to external sync above 48KHz. Stuff like this just drives
me nuts. At any rate, everything is looking good here now and I'm able to do
what I had wanted.

The way to get the external FX boxes (a PCM-91, SonyV-77, Roland R-880 and
Quantec Yardstick which are not capable of operating at sample rates above
48KHz) all working smoothly at sample rates up to 96KHz using 2 RME ADI 8-DD
format/sample rate converters is as follows:

AES 32 Totalmix 1:1 routing
Project sample rate set to 88.2KHz
AES-32 control panel Output Format - Double Speed>Single Wire

Routing:

AES 32 outputs 1 & 2, 3 & 4, 5 & 6, 7 & 8 to #1 ADI 8-DD inputs 1 & 2, 3 &
4, 5 & 6, 7 & 8

#1 ADI 8-DD settings left side:
Source-AES
SRC-Active
Clock-EXT
#1 ADI 8-DD settings right side
Source AES
AES State-Pro
#1 ADI 8-DD AES outputs to PCM 91 AES in, V77 AES in, R-880 AES in,
Yardstick AES in
____________________________________________________________ _______________
PCM 91 AES out, V77 AES out, R-880 AES out, Yardstick AES out to #2 ADI 8-DD
inputs

#2 ADI 8-DD settings left side:
Source-AES
SRC-Active
Clock-EXT > DS (very important-without this DS setting, the output signal to
the AES-32 is mono)
#2 ADI 8-DD settings right side
Source-AES
State-Pro
#1 ADI 8-DD AES outputs to AES-32 inputs 1 & 2, 3 & 4, 5 & 6, 7 & 8

Additionally, I've got 4 more external processors here (a POD XP Pro (96KHz
capable), a second Sony V77, a TC Electronics D-2 and a TC Electronics
M2000) patched into the AES 32 I/O #'s 9 thru 16 with the Sony and the two
TC devices interfacing with 6 x Behringer Ultramatch Pro units in a similar
manner to what I am using with the ADI 8-Dd units and these are handling the
real time sample rate conversion to/from 88.2KHZ for these boxes. I have to
say that as many bad experiences as I have had with Behringer products,
these particular boxes are and have been rock solid performers.......I do
keep a spare..just in case.....;o)

It's nice having 8 x outboard external devices in Cubase SX capable of
processing at 88.2 KHz. It really does open up some possibilities and save
some DSP horsepower that can be used for those nice UAD-1 compressors and
EQ's when working at higher sample rates.

Now.....to start getting some projects going at said higher sample rates.
I've got two in preproduction right now. It's almost time to burn up some
disc space.
;O)
Deej

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