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- Cubase Mix Buss - you can NOT tell me this sounds one-dimensional! [message #74240] Mon, 16 October 2006 19:28 Go to next message
Neil is currently offline  Neil
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Short clip, just under a minute... hi-rez Mp3. This is NOT
using stems, BTW, it's just a regular standard mix:

http://www.saqqararecords.com/images/DracoClipRoughMix320MP3 .mp3

Here's a portion of that with just the drums, nothing else.

http://www.saqqararecords.com/images/DracoClipDrumsOnly320MP 3.mp3

One-Dimensional? Collapsed soundfield? I don't think so.
- Re: Cubase Mix Buss - you can NOT tell me this sounds one-dimensional! [message #74241 is a reply to message #74240] Mon, 16 October 2006 19:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
audioguy_editout_ is currently offline  audioguy_editout_   CANADA
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Is that MIDI??? ;-)

David.

Neil wrote:

> Short clip, just under a minute... hi-rez Mp3. This is NOT
> using stems, BTW, it's just a regular standard mix:
>
> http://www.saqqararecords.com/images/DracoClipRoughMix320MP3 .mp3
>
> Here's a portion of that with just the drums, nothing else.
>
> http://www.saqqararecords.com/images/DracoClipDrumsOnly320MP 3.mp3
>
> One-Dimensional? Collapsed soundfield? I don't think so.
>
>
>
>
- Re: Cubase Mix Buss - you can NOT tell me this sounds one-dimensional! [message #74244 is a reply to message #74241] Mon, 16 October 2006 19:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cujo is currently offline  cujo
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DO I hear the UAD 1073 EQ on Kick ond OH's?

I am listening to my blue G4 mono speaker so it is sort of 1 dimensional.

"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>Is that MIDI??? ;-)
>
>David.
>
>Neil wrote:
>
>> Short clip, just under a minute... hi-rez Mp3. This is NOT
>> using stems, BTW, it's just a regular standard mix:
>>
>> http://www.saqqararecords.com/images/DracoClipRoughMix320MP3 .mp3
>>
>> Here's a portion of that with just the drums, nothing else.
>>
>> http://www.saqqararecords.com/images/DracoClipDrumsOnly320MP 3.mp3
>>
>> One-Dimensional? Collapsed soundfield? I don't think so.
>>
>>
>>
>>
- Re: Cubase Mix Buss - you can NOT tell me this sounds one-dimensional! [message #74246 is a reply to message #74241] Mon, 16 October 2006 19:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Neil is currently offline  Neil
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The keys are, the drums are no longer. :)


"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>Is that MIDI??? ;-)
>
>David.
>
>Neil wrote:
>
>> Short clip, just under a minute... hi-rez Mp3. This is NOT
>> using stems, BTW, it's just a regular standard mix:
>>
>> http://www.saqqararecords.com/images/DracoClipRoughMix320MP3 .mp3
>>
>> Here's a portion of that with just the drums, nothing else.
>>
>> http://www.saqqararecords.com/images/DracoClipDrumsOnly320MP 3.mp3
>>
>> One-Dimensional? Collapsed soundfield? I don't think so.
>>
>>
>>
>>
- Re: Cubase Mix Buss - you can NOT tell me this sounds one-dimensional! [message #74247 is a reply to message #74244] Mon, 16 October 2006 20:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Neil is currently offline  Neil
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"Cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote:
>
>DO I hear the UAD 1073 EQ on Kick ond OH's?

No, there is zero EQ on the kick & OH's, in fact. The kick tone
is all multiband comp with the middle ducked down & the lows &
high's brought up... Audix D-6 through a Chandler TG-2 & a
multiband configured as mentioned, not a drop of EQ on it.
The OH's on that one are B.L.U.E. Bluebirds through a Focusrite
ISA 428, nothing on them at all, no dynamics, no EQ.

The snare definitely has some EQ on it - it's Matt Craig's
Paris VST EQ, in fact, and the Toms have a little boost at 7k &
100hz, and a small shelf starting at 10k but that's it for EQ
on the drums... the hats are an Earthworks TC-30 through a Neve
Portico, no EQ there either.

>I am listening to my blue G4 mono speaker so it is sort of 1
>dimensional.

Funny... is it perhaps out of phase with itself? lol :D

Neil


>
>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>Is that MIDI??? ;-)
>>
>>David.
>>
>>Neil wrote:
>>
>>> Short clip, just under a minute... hi-rez Mp3. This is NOT
>>> using stems, BTW, it's just a regular standard mix:
>>>
>>> http://www.saqqararecords.com/images/DracoClipRoughMix320MP3 .mp3
>>>
>>> Here's a portion of that with just the drums, nothing else.
>>>
>>> http://www.saqqararecords.com/images/DracoClipDrumsOnly320MP 3.mp3
>>>
>>> One-Dimensional? Collapsed soundfield? I don't think so.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
- Re: Cubase Mix Buss - you can NOT tell me this sounds one-dimensional! [message #74249 is a reply to message #74241] Mon, 16 October 2006 20:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
animix is currently offline  animix   UNITED STATES
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ROTFL!!!!.........hey man!!!! only I can take an audio track and make sound
like midi!!!

;oD


"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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> Is that MIDI??? ;-)
>
> David.
>
> Neil wrote:
>
> > Short clip, just under a minute... hi-rez Mp3. This is NOT
> > using stems, BTW, it's just a regular standard mix:
> >
> > http://www.saqqararecords.com/images/DracoClipRoughMix320MP3 .mp3
> >
> > Here's a portion of that with just the drums, nothing else.
> >
> > http://www.saqqararecords.com/images/DracoClipDrumsOnly320MP 3.mp3
> >
> > One-Dimensional? Collapsed soundfield? I don't think so.
> >
> >
> >
> >
- Re: Cubase Mix Buss - you can NOT tell me this sounds one-dimensional! [message #74250 is a reply to message #74246] Mon, 16 October 2006 20:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
animix is currently offline  animix   UNITED STATES
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Nice mix Neil. Now let me show you how to make it sound like midi...........

;oP

"Neil" <IOUIO@OIU.com> wrote in message news:453446d5$1@linux...
>
> The keys are, the drums are no longer. :)
>
>
> "Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
> >Is that MIDI??? ;-)
> >
> >David.
> >
> >Neil wrote:
> >
> >> Short clip, just under a minute... hi-rez Mp3. This is NOT
> >> using stems, BTW, it's just a regular standard mix:
> >>
> >> http://www.saqqararecords.com/images/DracoClipRoughMix320MP3 .mp3
> >>
> >> Here's a portion of that with just the drums, nothing else.
> >>
> >> http://www.saqqararecords.com/images/DracoClipDrumsOnly320MP 3.mp3
> >>
> >> One-Dimensional? Collapsed soundfield? I don't think so.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
- Re: Cubase Mix Buss - you can NOT tell me this sounds one-dimensional! [message #74251 is a reply to message #74246] Mon, 16 October 2006 20:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
AlexPlasko is currently offline  AlexPlasko   UNITED STATES
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It sounds good but where is the cowbell?
"Neil" <IOUIO@OIU.com> wrote in message news:453446d5$1@linux...
>
> The keys are, the drums are no longer. :)
>
>
> "Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>Is that MIDI??? ;-)
>>
>>David.
>>
>>Neil wrote:
>>
>>> Short clip, just under a minute... hi-rez Mp3. This is NOT
>>> using stems, BTW, it's just a regular standard mix:
>>>
>>> http://www.saqqararecords.com/images/DracoClipRoughMix320MP3 .mp3
>>>
>>> Here's a portion of that with just the drums, nothing else.
>>>
>>> http://www.saqqararecords.com/images/DracoClipDrumsOnly320MP 3.mp3
>>>
>>> One-Dimensional? Collapsed soundfield? I don't think so.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
- Re: Cubase Mix Buss - you can NOT tell me this sounds one-dimensional! [message #74265 is a reply to message #74249] Tue, 17 October 2006 02:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rick is currently offline  rick   UNITED STATES
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hey, you're not the only deluded individual here.

On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 21:24:19 -0600, "DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:

>ROTFL!!!!.........hey man!!!! only I can take an audio track and make sound
>like midi!!!
>
>;oD
>
>
>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>news:45344197$1@linux...
>> Is that MIDI??? ;-)
>>
>> David.
>>
>> Neil wrote:
>>
>> > Short clip, just under a minute... hi-rez Mp3. This is NOT
>> > using stems, BTW, it's just a regular standard mix:
>> >
>> > http://www.saqqararecords.com/images/DracoClipRoughMix320MP3 .mp3
>> >
>> > Here's a portion of that with just the drums, nothing else.
>> >
>> > http://www.saqqararecords.com/images/DracoClipDrumsOnly320MP 3.mp3
>> >
>> > One-Dimensional? Collapsed soundfield? I don't think so.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>
- Re: Cubase Mix Buss - you can NOT tell me this sounds one-dimensional! [message #74336 is a reply to message #74250] Tue, 17 October 2006 18:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
>Nice mix Neil. Now let me show you how to make it sound like midi...........

Thanks, Deej... umm, to make it sound like MIDI should I
quantize the audio on the drum tracks during the slight tempo
retard at :09 seconds in, and again at about :31 seconds (you
know, the part where I f%&$ck up on the hi-hats a bit)? lol

C'mon gang, 57 people played this clip 76 times since
yesterday, let's hear some more responses... does it sound
one-dimensional/shrunken/etc.?

Guys who are using Cubase, but summing though Paris (Gene?
Anyone else?), do you think I'd get an even bigger sound if I
came out of a Multiface in 4 submixes, then summed those live
on another PC through a Paris 8-in module?

Neil
- Re: Cubase Mix Buss - you can NOT tell me this sounds one-dimensional! [message #74340 is a reply to message #74247] Tue, 17 October 2006 20:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cujo is currently offline  cujo
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How do you like the TG-2?

"Neil" <IOUOUI@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>"Cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote:
>>
>>DO I hear the UAD 1073 EQ on Kick ond OH's?
>
>No, there is zero EQ on the kick & OH's, in fact. The kick tone
>is all multiband comp with the middle ducked down & the lows &
>high's brought up... Audix D-6 through a Chandler TG-2 & a
>multiband configured as mentioned, not a drop of EQ on it.
>The OH's on that one are B.L.U.E. Bluebirds through a Focusrite
>ISA 428, nothing on them at all, no dynamics, no EQ.
>
>The snare definitely has some EQ on it - it's Matt Craig's
>Paris VST EQ, in fact, and the Toms have a little boost at 7k &
>100hz, and a small shelf starting at 10k but that's it for EQ
>on the drums... the hats are an Earthworks TC-30 through a Neve
>Portico, no EQ there either.
>
>>I am listening to my blue G4 mono speaker so it is sort of 1
>>dimensional.
>
>Funny... is it perhaps out of phase with itself? lol :D
>
>Neil
>
>
>>
>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>Is that MIDI??? ;-)
>>>
>>>David.
>>>
>>>Neil wrote:
>>>
>>>> Short clip, just under a minute... hi-rez Mp3. This is NOT
>>>> using stems, BTW, it's just a regular standard mix:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.saqqararecords.com/images/DracoClipRoughMix320MP3 .mp3
>>>>
>>>> Here's a portion of that with just the drums, nothing else.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.saqqararecords.com/images/DracoClipDrumsOnly320MP 3.mp3
>>>>
>>>> One-Dimensional? Collapsed soundfield? I don't think so.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>
- Re: Cubase Mix Buss - you can NOT tell me this sounds one-dimensional! [message #74341 is a reply to message #74340] Tue, 17 October 2006 20:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Neil is currently offline  Neil
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"Cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote:
>
>
>How do you like the TG-2?

Love it on kick & snare, and on certain vocal mics there's
nothing quite like it. It's a great pre, IMO.

Neil
- Re: Cubase Mix Buss - you can NOT tell me this sounds one-dimensional! [message #74381 is a reply to message #74336] Wed, 18 October 2006 09:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Don Nafe is currently offline  Don Nafe   UNITED STATES
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No it's not the sound Neil it's the drumming that's very one dimensional

;-)

Don


"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45358728$1@linux...
>
> "DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
>>Nice mix Neil. Now let me show you how to make it sound like
>>midi...........
>
> Thanks, Deej... umm, to make it sound like MIDI should I
> quantize the audio on the drum tracks during the slight tempo
> retard at :09 seconds in, and again at about :31 seconds (you
> know, the part where I f%&$ck up on the hi-hats a bit)? lol
>
> C'mon gang, 57 people played this clip 76 times since
> yesterday, let's hear some more responses... does it sound
> one-dimensional/shrunken/etc.?
>
> Guys who are using Cubase, but summing though Paris (Gene?
> Anyone else?), do you think I'd get an even bigger sound if I
> came out of a Multiface in 4 submixes, then summed those live
> on another PC through a Paris 8-in module?
>
> Neil
- Re: Cubase Mix Buss - you can NOT tell me this sounds one-dimensional! [message #74383 is a reply to message #74381] Wed, 18 October 2006 09:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
EK Sound is currently offline  EK Sound   CANADA
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That's what happens when all the attack velocities are 127... ;-)

David.

Don Nafe wrote:

> No it's not the sound Neil it's the drumming that's very one dimensional
>
> ;-)
>
> Don
>
>
> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45358728$1@linux...
>
>>"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Nice mix Neil. Now let me show you how to make it sound like
>>>midi...........
>>
>>Thanks, Deej... umm, to make it sound like MIDI should I
>>quantize the audio on the drum tracks during the slight tempo
>>retard at :09 seconds in, and again at about :31 seconds (you
>>know, the part where I f%&$ck up on the hi-hats a bit)? lol
>>
>>C'mon gang, 57 people played this clip 76 times since
>>yesterday, let's hear some more responses... does it sound
>>one-dimensional/shrunken/etc.?
>>
>>Guys who are using Cubase, but summing though Paris (Gene?
>>Anyone else?), do you think I'd get an even bigger sound if I
>>came out of a Multiface in 4 submixes, then summed those live
>>on another PC through a Paris 8-in module?
>>
>>Neil
>
>
>
- Re: Cubase Mix Buss - you can NOT tell me this sounds one-dimensional! [message #74386 is a reply to message #74383] Wed, 18 October 2006 09:28 Go to previous message
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LOL! OK, no argument from me on the drumming... I am not a
drummer so I'm just trying to follow the original MIDI stuff I
programmed (got pretty close, for the most part).

And Dave... it's really not MIDI. all that's real & it's not
triggered samples - I did have to do a few edits because - well,
BECAUSE I'M NOT A BJORKIN' DRUMMER! (lol), but they're real
drum tracks.

Neil

EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>That's what happens when all the attack velocities are 127... ;-)
>
>David.
>
>Don Nafe wrote:
>
>> No it's not the sound Neil it's the drumming that's very one dimensional
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>> Don
>>
>>
>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45358728$1@linux...
>>
>>>"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Nice mix Neil. Now let me show you how to make it sound like
>>>>midi...........
>>>
>>>Thanks, Deej... umm, to make it sound like MIDI should I
>>>quantize the audio on the drum tracks during the slight tempo
>>>retard at :09 seconds in, and again at about :31 seconds (you
>>>know, the part where I f%&$ck up on the hi-hats a bit)? lol
>>>
>>>C'mon gang, 57 people played this clip 76 times since
>>>yesterday, let's hear some more responses... does it sound
>>>one-dimensional/shrunken/etc.?
>>>
>>>Guys who are using Cubase, but summing though Paris (Gene?
>>>Anyone else?), do you think I'd get an even bigger sound if I
>>>came out of a Multiface in 4 submixes, then summed those live
>>>on another PC through a Paris 8-in module?
>>>
>>>Neil
>>
>>
>>
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