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| Re: The world, oil, Citgo and Petro Express! [message #85548 is a reply to message #85482] |
Tue, 29 May 2007 13:20   |
LaMont
Messages: 828
Registered: October 2005
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They were a peaceful organization.. Stop drinking the USA Kool-Aid and think
for your self.
They(Black Panthers)took up arms against te opressive US government to protect
the Blacks who being oppressed and lynched..
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>Yeah the black Panthers were a peaceful group. Two wrongs don't make a
right.
> Come on LaMont!
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritect.net> wrote:
>>
>>DJ, I'm not that narrow minded. Just becasue he (Chavez) rags on Bush doe
>>snot make me admire him. Like Castro, and many rulers who won;t follow
the
>>US foriegn policy and put their Country first is a leader I admire..
>>
>>Back in the 60s the US govermen called the Black Panthers a terrosit organization,
>>it was not.. Then seeked to distroy them just beacause they wanted a better
>>america for all especialy African Americans..
>>
>>It hard for most white americans to belive that their country can do no
>wrong.
>>It's just that most of us who are non white belive in the US goverment
>no
>>mateer whos is office..
>>
>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>Before you become enamoured with Somoza,
>>>
>>>sorry.......I meant Chavez.......
>>>
>>>
>>>and another thought........just because Chavez echoes your personal opinions
>>
>>>about Bush, does not make him a "liberator". People like Chavez will say
>>
>>>whatever they think you want to hear as long as it suits their
>>>agenda.....sorta like most American politicians.
>>>
>>>Deej
>>>
>>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:46585f86@linux...
>>>> LaMont, my friend. I think you are misguided here. I respect your
>>>> opinions, but I wonder if you have ever been up close and personal with
>>a
>>>> totalitarian state......socialist or otherwise. I have seen it (Nicaragua
>>
>>>> during and after Somoza). Before you become enamoured with Somoza, I
>
>>>> suggest you take some time off and go to Venezuela while you still can
>>
>>>> travel without a *state tender* (if this is even still possible) and
>spend
>>
>>>> about a month travelling around down there.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> DJ
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:4657da5b$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> Hugo Chavez is a hero. A man willing to sand up for his counry and
not
>>
>>>>> let
>>>>> a another country (USA) tell him how to run thier commodity.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is nothing more than tipical US spin machine out to sway puplic
>>
>>>>> opinion
>>>>> about those leaders that don't drink the US Kool-Aid.. They (Venezuelans)
>>>>> don't need our aid. They have their own precious commodity.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wake up people, are we to believe every word coming from our Goverment??
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks God for Citgo..
>>>>>
>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This was a email I received.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Diane Sawyer on ABC news interviewed the Venezuelan leader Chavez just
>>
>>>>>>last
>>>>>>week -- March 2007 He is so dangerous, and you can tell he is thrilled
>>to
>>>>>>be selling oil toAmerica and having a foot on the throat of this country.
>>>>>>He is something else. If you did not hear the interview, the following
>>
>>>>>>was
>>>>>>discussed and it is true. They have all this money coming in and the
>>
>>>>>>majority
>>>>>>of his own people are living in poverty and he is so rich. He is best
>>of
>>>>>>friends with Castro and Russian leaders. He told Diane Sawyer that
he
>>was
>>>>>>friends with all the world leaders, but President Bush is as dumb as
>>a
>>>>>>'donkey'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>CITGO CHANGING NAME...this is serious Americans...make sure you read
>>..
>>>>>>NEWS FLASH: Chavez is NOW getting a Russian Weapons Factory built by
>>
>>>>>>Putin.
>>>>>>The RUSSIANS are building an AK-47 Kalashnikov Assault Rifle factory
>>in
>>>>> Venezuela,
>>>>>>to give armament support to Communist Rebel groups throughout the
>>>>>>Americas.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Chavez NOW has IRANIANS operating his oil refineries in Venezuela for
>>
>>>>>>him.
>>>>>>It is likely only a matter of time, if not already, before Chavez has
>>
>>>>>>Iranian
>>>>>>built LONG RANGE missiles, with a variety of warhead types aimed at:
>>
>>>>>>Guess
>>>>>>Who?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>CITGO is NOW in the process of Changing Its Name to PETRO EXPRESS due
>>to
>>>>>>the loss of gasoline sales in the USA due to the recent publicity of
>>
>>>>>>ownership
>>>>>>by Chavez of Venezuela.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Every dollar you spend with CITGO or PETRO EXPRESS gasoline will be
>used
>>>>>>against you, your basic human rights, and your freedoms. He will start
>>
>>>>>>wars
>>>>>>here in the Americas that will probably be the death of millions of
>free
>>>>>>people.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT because Chavez is starting to feel the loss
of
>>
>>>>>>revenue
>>>>>>from his holdings. HE OWNS CITGO. This is a very important move that
>>
>>>>>>everyone
>>>>>>should be aware of.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>ANNOUNCED JUST RECENTLY, CITGO, BEING AWARE THAT SALES ARE DOWN DUE
>TO
>>
>>>>>>U.S.
>>>>>>CUSTOMERS NOT WANTING TO BUY FROM "CITGO-CHAVEZ", HAVE STARTED TO CHANGE
>>>>>>THE NAME OF SOME OF THEIR STORES TO: "PETRO EXPRESS"
>>>>>>DO NOT BUY FROM "PETRO EXPRESS" EITHER!!! "PETRO EXPRESS" IS ALSO 100%
>>
>>>>>>OWNED
>>>>>>BY "CHAVEZ."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>KEEP THIS MEMO GOING SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT IS HAPPENING.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>BOYCOTT "CITGO" AND "PETRO EXPRESS".............MAKE SURE THIS IS PASSED
>>>>>>ON TO EVERYONE in YOUR E-MAIL LIST IN THE UNITED STATES AND OUTSIDE
>OF
>>
>>>>>>AMERICA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: The world, oil, Citgo and Petro Express! [message #85550 is a reply to message #85485] |
Tue, 29 May 2007 13:32 |
LaMont
Messages: 828
Registered: October 2005
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Hi Aaron,
With do respect. This is about money and resources and race.
I'm as american as anybody. But, I don't will not belive everything that
comes from the US propaganda machine.. Not to change the subject, but can
we say the Iraq war?
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
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>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritect.net> wrote in message news:465af034$1@linux...
>>
>> DJ, I'm not that narrow minded. Just becasue he (Chavez) rags on Bush
doe
>> snot make me admire him. Like Castro, and many rulers who won;t follow
the
>> US foriegn policy and put their Country first is a leader I admire..
>
>Sorry man... gotta have some comedy first here. Bush Doe Snot. I get visuals
>of deer boxing glove hunting with Cheney and Dubya standing on the other
>side of the deer in question... ok,now that's out of the way and the tone
is
>hopefully set :)
>
>
>This isn't about Bush or who 'rags' him - frankly as a 'white american'
that
>voted for him, I think he needs some of it for a few things I've seen. On
>the other hand: If you think Chavez and Castro are so great, why don't you
>move outta our house and into theirs? I'm sure you'd find plenty of
>opportunities like recording audio and freedom of speech and religion there.
>If you want to be able to admire leaders, why haven't you put more into
>getting candidates here in office that you 'can' admire?
>
>> Back in the 60s the US govermen called the Black Panthers a terrosit
>> organization,
>> it was not.. Then seeked to distroy them just beacause they wanted a
>> better
>> america for all especialy African Americans..
>
>I don't have a problem with betterment of African Americans. The BP's
>started out as a very good idea in a time when black men were under fire,
>and considered lesser men merited on skin color. As you may well know, I've
>worked with some higher profile AA's and it has zero to do with a color
as
>far as I'm concerned - it's just people, some good some bad. However, you're
>going to stand there and tell me splintered BP's never, ever used violence
>for their agendas?
>Frankly, I think a man's betterment doesn't come from some organization,
it
>comes from opportunity, skills, education and unfortunately sometimes who
>you know. If this was still 1966, I'd agree with your stand but you are
>behind the times dude, and there is a lot of racism from every corner based
>upon old beliefs. Are you on the positive motion or the negative motion
side
>of the fence man?
>
>> It hard for most white americans to belive that their country can do no
>> wrong.
>> It's just that most of us who are non white belive in the US goverment
no
>> mateer whos is office..
>
>I'm not real sure what you're trying to say here, but if I'm reading this
>right from your other statements in this and past posts:
>For me and those around me in perspective, color has little to nothing to
do
>with it unless the race card is being pulled out for political leverage.
An
>that ain't usually the 'white american'. Can we say Louisiana and Hurricane
>ever again in the same sentence w/o the race card coming up? I find this
bad
>form and offensive LaMont, and telling of how you'd box in Deej into a
>catagory on auto pilot. Be careful of blanket statements like that, it sure
>doesn't shine a positive light man.
>
>Kick back, have a glass of tea and think about why you are making this
>racial, and at who for what reasons. Then envision a more postiive response
>and outcome.
>
>
>AA
>
>>
>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>Before you become enamoured with Somoza,
>>>
>>>sorry.......I meant Chavez.......
>>>
>>>
>>>and another thought........just because Chavez echoes your personal
>>>opinions
>>
>>>about Bush, does not make him a "liberator". People like Chavez will say
>>
>>>whatever they think you want to hear as long as it suits their
>>>agenda.....sorta like most American politicians.
>>>
>>>Deej
>>>
>>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:46585f86@linux...
>>>> LaMont, my friend. I think you are misguided here. I respect your
>>>> opinions, but I wonder if you have ever been up close and personal with
>> a
>>>> totalitarian state......socialist or otherwise. I have seen it
>>>> (Nicaragua
>>
>>>> during and after Somoza). Before you become enamoured with Somoza, I
>>>> suggest you take some time off and go to Venezuela while you still can
>>
>>>> travel without a *state tender* (if this is even still possible) and
>>>> spend
>>
>>>> about a month travelling around down there.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> DJ
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:4657da5b$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> Hugo Chavez is a hero. A man willing to sand up for his counry and
not
>>
>>>>> let
>>>>> a another country (USA) tell him how to run thier commodity.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is nothing more than tipical US spin machine out to sway puplic
>>
>>>>> opinion
>>>>> about those leaders that don't drink the US Kool-Aid.. They
>>>>> (Venezuelans)
>>>>> don't need our aid. They have their own precious commodity.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wake up people, are we to believe every word coming from our
>>>>> Goverment??
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks God for Citgo..
>>>>>
>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This was a email I received.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Diane Sawyer on ABC news interviewed the Venezuelan leader Chavez just
>>
>>>>>>last
>>>>>>week -- March 2007 He is so dangerous, and you can tell he is thrilled
>> to
>>>>>>be selling oil toAmerica and having a foot on the throat of this
>>>>>>country.
>>>>>>He is something else. If you did not hear the interview, the following
>>
>>>>>>was
>>>>>>discussed and it is true. They have all this money coming in and the
>>
>>>>>>majority
>>>>>>of his own people are living in poverty and he is so rich. He is best
>> of
>>>>>>friends with Castro and Russian leaders. He told Diane Sawyer that
he
>> was
>>>>>>friends with all the world leaders, but President Bush is as dumb as
>> a
>>>>>>'donkey'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>CITGO CHANGING NAME...this is serious Americans...make sure you read
>> ..
>>>>>>NEWS FLASH: Chavez is NOW getting a Russian Weapons Factory built by
>>
>>>>>>Putin.
>>>>>>The RUSSIANS are building an AK-47 Kalashnikov Assault Rifle factory
>> in
>>>>> Venezuela,
>>>>>>to give armament support to Communist Rebel groups throughout the
>>>>>>Americas.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Chavez NOW has IRANIANS operating his oil refineries in Venezuela for
>>
>>>>>>him.
>>>>>>It is likely only a matter of time, if not already, before Chavez has
>>
>>>>>>Iranian
>>>>>>built LONG RANGE missiles, with a variety of warhead types aimed at:
>>
>>>>>>Guess
>>>>>>Who?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>CITGO is NOW in the process of Changing Its Name to PETRO EXPRESS due
>> to
>>>>>>the loss of gasoline sales in the USA due to the recent publicity of
>>
>>>>>>ownership
>>>>>>by Chavez of Venezuela.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Every dollar you spend with CITGO or PETRO EXPRESS gasoline will be
>>>>>>used
>>>>>>against you, your basic human rights, and your freedoms. He will start
>>
>>>>>>wars
>>>>>>here in the Americas that will probably be the death of millions of
>>>>>>free
>>>>>>people.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT because Chavez is starting to feel the loss
of
>>
>>>>>>revenue
>>>>>>from his holdings. HE OWNS CITGO. This is a very important move that
>>
>>>>>>everyone
>>>>>>should be aware of.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>ANNOUNCED JUST RECENTLY, CITGO, BEING AWARE THAT SALES ARE DOWN DUE
TO
>>
>>>>>>U.S.
>>>>>>CUSTOMERS NOT WANTING TO BUY FROM "CITGO-CHAVEZ", HAVE STARTED TO
>>>>>>CHANGE
>>>>>>THE NAME OF SOME OF THEIR STORES TO: "PETRO EXPRESS"
>>>>>>DO NOT BUY FROM "PETRO EXPRESS" EITHER!!! "PETRO EXPRESS" IS ALSO 100%
>>
>>>>>>OWNED
>>>>>>BY "CHAVEZ."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>KEEP THIS MEMO GOING SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT IS HAPPENING.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>BOYCOTT "CITGO" AND "PETRO EXPRESS".............MAKE SURE THIS IS
>>>>>>PASSED
>>>>>>ON TO EVERYONE in YOUR E-MAIL LIST IN THE UNITED STATES AND OUTSIDE
OF
>>
>>>>>>AMERICA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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| Re: The world, oil, Citgo and Petro Express! [message #85554 is a reply to message #85479] |
Tue, 29 May 2007 13:39 |
LaMont
Messages: 828
Registered: October 2005
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That's right. Everybody what's to destroy the US.?? No man, they just want
to make it on their own term..That's all.
Just like the original 13 colonies wanted. To make it on their own from British
imperalisim..
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>Look at their intent and ask your self why. Look at what he is doing.
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>PS. James, you also raised another issue, that of the arms industry, in
>which
>>we are a dominant player. I won't go into it here except to note that one
>>of the objections you raise about Venezuela is that they are buying from
>>a competitor.
>>
>>Gothcha James!!:) Since they di not purchase from us, they are the ememy.LOL!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>America's appetite for oil is our own problem and we can't blame it on
>
>>>other countries. We don't own their oil.
>>>
>>>The "foot on the throat" is really "feet on the throat" and the feet
>>>belong to OPEC and other oil producers aided by an oil industry that is
>>
>>>more and more consolidated, monolithic and multi-national. But the
>>>responsibility for putting our throat under those feet is largely our
own.
>>>
>>>In order to get these footprints off of our throat it's not enough to
>>>complain about the governments of other countries, whether they deserve
>>
>>>criticism or not. We need to face up to our own responsibilities and do
>>
>>>something about:
>>>
>>>A) Our own oil consumption.
>>>
>>>This is key. However you do it, consider using less petroleum. Drive a
>
>>>more efficient car. Drive less. Go biodiesel (from efficient sources).
>
>>>Go electric. Ride a bike. Take a bus/train. Walk.
>>>
>>>This will help make us less dependent on foreign oil, less manipulable
>
>>>by terrorist factions, less susceptible to market manipulations and
>>>better able to face the future when oil is harder to come by (oil is not
>>
>>>an infinite resource, google "peak oil"). Reducing our consumption will
>>
>>>also help relieve our shortage of refining capability, which, for a
>>>variety of reasons, we are bumping into pretty hard right now.
>>>
>>>Also significant, using less oil will help improve local air quality and
>>
>>>pull back on greenhouse gas emissions.
>>>
>>>Win, win.
>>>
>>>B) Our own Federal Trade Commission.
>>>
>>>If you agree with the GAO that industry consolidation is hurting rather
>>
>>>than helping the consumer at the pump, then something is wrong over at
>
>>>the FTC. The FTC is our consumer protection watchdog, they oversee and
>
>>>approves mergers and they enforce anti-trust legislation. Is the fox
>>>guarding the hen house?
>>>
>>>C) Our own government.
>>>
>>>We have problems using long term planning to avoid situations where our
>>
>>>security is at risk from poor energy policy. This is a failure of
>>>leadership by both major parties.
>>>
>>>How do we get better leadership? Is it by electing politicians who
>>>represent multi-national industries? Or is it by electing politicians
>>>who represent their actual constituents?
>>>
>>>If you believe in the latter, i.e. "democracy," the election system is
>
>>>broken on several fronts.
>>>
>>>First, the increasing amount of money it takes to get elected means that
>>
>>>most politicians butter their bread from high money sources, because
>>>that's the easy money. K street lobbyists are funneling vast sums of
>>>money to both parties in order to push special interest agendas. This
>>>results in politicians who are beholden to special interest groups for
>
>>>their jobs. Lobbyists themselves are helping to write new legislation
>>>and are even being appointed to government oversight positions.
>>>
>>>This will not be easy to reign in. Possible solutions include:
>>>
>>> -Using some amount of the public airwaves for elections without
>>>charge, to make running for office less costly and thus level the
>>>playing field for candidates who don't feed at the lobbyist trough;
>>>
>>> -Instant runoff voting so people can vote for their true favorite
>>>candidates without fear of throwing their vote away;
>>>
>>> -Full disclosure laws for groups doing political advertising
>>>(including those doing thinly veiled "issue advertising"), so everyone
>
>>>knows exactly which special interests are behind any disinformation
>>>campaign;
>>>
>>> -A responsible fourth estate that shines a bright light on ad
>>>campaigns, showing the funding sources, revealing their interests, and
>
>>>contrasting any claims with actual facts. We need to balance a special
>
>>>interest group's right to brazenly lie with the public's need to know
>>>the facts. :^)
>>>
>>> -Campaign finance reform. This is an interesting challenge: how to
>>>keep an election from being bought without infringing on "free speech."
>>
>>>Free speech is in quotes because there is some controversy about whether
>>
>>>restricting campaign donations is the same as restricting actual speech.
>>>
>>>Second, the election mechanism itself is suspect. A large percentage of
>>
>>>the votes are compiled by computer-based systems that do not keep a
>>>physical record of the vote. There is no way of knowing if the
>>>electronic vote has been hacked, except that 1) we know electronic
>>>voting makes it possible to cheat quickly, undetectably and on a large
>
>>>scale, and 2) we have a clear history of various parties eagerly
>>>cheating in elections when possible. Draw your own conclusions.
>>>
>>>Even with systems that keep a physical, recountable record, it's
>>>important that the ballot of record be the physical representation and
>
>>>not the electronic representation. The physical representation should
be
>>
>>>counted for the first official tally as well as all recounts. It's
>>>exceedingly important that vote tallies are regularly audited using the
>>
>>>physical ballots, with a sufficient percentage of precincts audited to
>
>>>be very sure that no cheating falls through the cracks.
>>>
>>>On the other side of the equation, no party should be allowed to
>>>manipulate the federal system to throw legitimate voters off the rolls
>
>>>or fail to count any legitimate ballot, provisional or direct. Nor
>>>should dead people vote.
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>> -Jamie
>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>
>>>PS. James, you also raised another issue, that of the arms industry, in
>>
>>>which we are a dominant player. I won't go into it here except to note
>
>>>that one of the objections you raise about Venezuela is that they are
>>>buying from a competitor.
>>>
>>>
>>>James McCloskey wrote:
>>>> This was a email I received.
>>>>
>>>> Diane Sawyer on ABC news interviewed the Venezuelan leader Chavez just
>>last
>>>> week -- March 2007 He is so dangerous, and you can tell he is thrilled
>>to
>>>> be selling oil toAmerica and having a foot on the throat of this country.
>>>> He is something else. If you did not hear the interview, the following
>>was
>>>> discussed and it is true. They have all this money coming in and the
>majority
>>>> of his own people are living in poverty and he is so rich. He is best
>>of
>>>> friends with Castro and Russian leaders. He told Diane Sawyer that he
>>was
>>>> friends with all the world leaders, but President Bush is as dumb as
>a
>>'donkey'.
>>>>
>>>> CITGO CHANGING NAME...this is serious Americans...make sure you read
>..
>>>> NEWS FLASH: Chavez is NOW getting a Russian Weapons Factory built by
>Putin.
>>>> The RUSSIANS are building an AK-47 Kalashnikov Assault Rifle factory
>in
>>Venezuela,
>>>> to give armament support to Communist Rebel groups throughout the Americas.
>>>>
>>>> Chavez NOW has IRANIANS operating his oil refineries in Venezuela for
>>him.
>>>> It is likely only a matter of time, if not already, before Chavez has
>>Iranian
>>>> built LONG RANGE missiles, with a variety of warhead types aimed at:
>Guess
>>>> Who?
>>>>
>>>> CITGO is NOW in the process of Changing Its Name to PETRO EXPRESS due
>>to
>>>> the loss of gasoline sales in the USA due to the recent publicity of
>ownership
>>>> by Chavez of Venezuela.
>>>>
>>>> Every dollar you spend with CITGO or PETRO EXPRESS gasoline will be
used
>>>> against you, your basic human rights, and your freedoms. He will start
>>wars
>>>> here in the Americas that will probably be the death of millions of
free
>>>> people.
>>>>
>>>> THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT because Chavez is starting to feel the loss of
>>revenue
>>>> from his holdings. HE OWNS CITGO. This is a very important move that
>everyone
>>>> should be aware of.
>>>>
>>>> ANNOUNCED JUST RECENTLY, CITGO, BEING AWARE THAT SALES ARE DOWN DUE
TO
>>U.S.
>>>> CUSTOMERS NOT WANTING TO BUY FROM "CITGO-CHAVEZ", HAVE STARTED TO CHANGE
>>>> THE NAME OF SOME OF THEIR STORES TO: "PETRO EXPRESS"
>>>> DO NOT BUY FROM "PETRO EXPRESS" EITHER!!! "PETRO EXPRESS" IS ALSO 100%
>>OWNED
>>>> BY "CHAVEZ."
>>>>
>>>> KEEP THIS MEMO GOING SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT IS HAPPENING.
>>>>
>>>> BOYCOTT "CITGO" AND "PETRO EXPRESS".............MAKE SURE THIS IS PASSED
>>>> ON TO EVERYONE in YOUR E-MAIL LIST IN THE UNITED STATES AND OUTSIDE
OF
>>AMERICA.
>>>>
>>>>
>>
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| Re: The world, oil, Citgo and Petro Express! [message #85555 is a reply to message #85352] |
Tue, 29 May 2007 13:42 |
LaMont
Messages: 828
Registered: October 2005
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DJ ..My buddy and friend.. One name.. George W Bush.. :)The guys who has single-handedly
taken away our liberties. Everybody is a terroist if don;t agree with his
office.and on and on..
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>LaMont, my friend. I think you are misguided here. I respect your opinions,
>but I wonder if you have ever been up close and personal with a totalitarian
>state......socialist or otherwise. I have seen it (Nicaragua during and
>after Somoza). Before you become enamoured with Somoza, I suggest you take
>some time off and go to Venezuela while you still can travel without a
>*state tender* (if this is even still possible) and spend about a month
>travelling around down there.
>
>Regards,
>
>DJ
>
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:4657da5b$1@linux...
>>
>> Hugo Chavez is a hero. A man willing to sand up for his counry and not
let
>> a another country (USA) tell him how to run thier commodity.
>>
>> This is nothing more than tipical US spin machine out to sway puplic
>> opinion
>> about those leaders that don't drink the US Kool-Aid.. They (Venezuelans)
>> don't need our aid. They have their own precious commodity.
>>
>> Wake up people, are we to believe every word coming from our Goverment??
>>
>> Thanks God for Citgo..
>>
>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>This was a email I received.
>>>
>>>Diane Sawyer on ABC news interviewed the Venezuelan leader Chavez just
>>>last
>>>week -- March 2007 He is so dangerous, and you can tell he is thrilled
to
>>>be selling oil toAmerica and having a foot on the throat of this country.
>>>He is something else. If you did not hear the interview, the following
was
>>>discussed and it is true. They have all this money coming in and the
>>>majority
>>>of his own people are living in poverty and he is so rich. He is best
of
>>>friends with Castro and Russian leaders. He told Diane Sawyer that he
was
>>>friends with all the world leaders, but President Bush is as dumb as a
>>>'donkey'.
>>>
>>>CITGO CHANGING NAME...this is serious Americans...make sure you read ...
>>>NEWS FLASH: Chavez is NOW getting a Russian Weapons Factory built by
>>>Putin.
>>>The RUSSIANS are building an AK-47 Kalashnikov Assault Rifle factory in
>> Venezuela,
>>>to give armament support to Communist Rebel groups throughout the
>>>Americas.
>>>
>>>Chavez NOW has IRANIANS operating his oil refineries in Venezuela for
him.
>>>It is likely only a matter of time, if not already, before Chavez has
>>>Iranian
>>>built LONG RANGE missiles, with a variety of warhead types aimed at: Guess
>>>Who?
>>>
>>>CITGO is NOW in the process of Changing Its Name to PETRO EXPRESS due
to
>>>the loss of gasoline sales in the USA due to the recent publicity of
>>>ownership
>>>by Chavez of Venezuela.
>>>
>>>Every dollar you spend with CITGO or PETRO EXPRESS gasoline will be used
>>>against you, your basic human rights, and your freedoms. He will start
>>>wars
>>>here in the Americas that will probably be the death of millions of free
>>>people.
>>>
>>>THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT because Chavez is starting to feel the loss of
>>>revenue
>>>from his holdings. HE OWNS CITGO. This is a very important move that
>>>everyone
>>>should be aware of.
>>>
>>>ANNOUNCED JUST RECENTLY, CITGO, BEING AWARE THAT SALES ARE DOWN DUE TO
>>>U.S.
>>>CUSTOMERS NOT WANTING TO BUY FROM "CITGO-CHAVEZ", HAVE STARTED TO CHANGE
>>>THE NAME OF SOME OF THEIR STORES TO: "PETRO EXPRESS"
>>>DO NOT BUY FROM "PETRO EXPRESS" EITHER!!! "PETRO EXPRESS" IS ALSO 100%
>>>OWNED
>>>BY "CHAVEZ."
>>>
>>>KEEP THIS MEMO GOING SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT IS HAPPENING.
>>>
>>>BOYCOTT "CITGO" AND "PETRO EXPRESS".............MAKE SURE THIS IS PASSED
>>>ON TO EVERYONE in YOUR E-MAIL LIST IN THE UNITED STATES AND OUTSIDE OF
>>>AMERICA.
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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| Re: The world, oil, Citgo and Petro Express! [message #85556 is a reply to message #85476] |
Tue, 29 May 2007 14:06 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
|
Senior Member |
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Deej, don't forget that in the runup to the Iraq war Judith Miller was pretty
much an unpaid war pimp for Cheney's office. Also, for the first couple of
years the paper was rabidly pro war. Only when their readership started to
demand it did they pipe down a bit.
TCB
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>No I don't think so at all. the NY Times has published some stuff here (in
>time of war) for which Castro (or Chavez, since he is Fidel's running dog
>lackey) would have had the editor executed by firing squad.
>
>Personally, I would have just had the editor prosecuted for treason and
then
>thrown into a pit full of man eating pigs.
>
>;o)
>.
>
>"LaMOnt" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:465af18e$1@linux...
>>
>> Are we not moving in that same direction here in the good O'S USA?
>> Especially
>> when comes to reporting the IRAQ and Afghan war??
>>
>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>But, just because a country
>>>is communist, does that mean they are evil??<
>>>
>>>Yes. they are currently putting the nail in the coffin of the free press
>>
>>>there by shutting down the only TV station that broadcasts anything other
>>
>>>than the party line.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:465aed1e$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> same with tme. I had a 88 Izuzu I mark and filled it with some citgo
>>>> gas/water
>>>> and it killed my catalytic converter..
>>>>
>>>> It took a long time for me to buy Citgo gas . But, just because a
>>>> country
>>>> is communist, does that mean they are evil??
>>>> Come on man. Take off the USA blinders..
>>>>
>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>By the way, In 1995 I purchased a brand new Firebird. About a month
>>>>>after
>>>>>getting the car I got gas at a Citgo station. with in minutes of
>>>>>pulling
>>>>>out, the engine ceased up. Towed it in to a dealer and found out I
had
>>>> bad
>>>>>gas. I had the state of Michigan come out and test the gas. 71% was
>>
>>>>>water,
>>>>>about 8% was solid garbage, and the rest was gas. It took out all of
>> the
>>>>>fuel injectors and the fuel pump. It did about $1700.00 in damage.
>>>>>
>>>>> Citgo refused to take any responsibility for their product, and refused
>>>>>to pay for the damage. They immediately told me that they were not
>>>>>responsible
>>>>>for their product after it left their refinery. Apparently that was
>>>>>their
>>>>>standard response for anybody that called them about bad gas. It took
>>
>>>>>about
>>>>>6 months to get it straitened out. The state of Michigan gave them
a
>>
>>>>>choice,
>>>>>pay for the damages or pay a $25,000.00 fine. The arab gas station
>>>>>owner
>>>>>had to pay for the damage.
>>>>>
>>>>>My neighbor later told me that when that gas station would start running
>>>>>out of gas he would see them put the garden hose down in to their tanks.
>>>>> So I guess the owner deserved what he got. There were also many
>>>>> reports
>>>>>on the news of people getting bad gas from Citgo stations all over town.
>>>>>
>>>>>Needless to say, I never buy gas at Citgo. What a PITA! If you want
>> to
>>>>>buy your gas from them that's up to you.
>>>>>
>>>>>When possible I will avoid buying Communist made products. And yes
I
>> am
>>>>>aware of where some of my favorite products are made. I don't like
it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hugo Chavez is a hero. A man willing to sand up for his counry and
not
>>>> let
>>>>>>a another country (USA) tell him how to run thier commodity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This is nothing more than tipical US spin machine out to sway puplic
>>
>>>>>>opinion
>>>>>>about those leaders that don't drink the US Kool-Aid.. They
>>>>>>(Venezuelans)
>>>>>>don't need our aid. They have their own precious commodity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Wake up people, are we to believe every word coming from our
>>>>>>Goverment??
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks God for Citgo..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>This was a email I received.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Diane Sawyer on ABC news interviewed the Venezuelan leader Chavez
just
>>>>>last
>>>>>>>week -- March 2007 He is so dangerous, and you can tell he is thrilled
>>>>>to
>>>>>>>be selling oil toAmerica and having a foot on the throat of this
>>>>>>>country.
>>>>>>>He is something else. If you did not hear the interview, the following
>>>>>was
>>>>>>>discussed and it is true. They have all this money coming in and the
>>
>>>>>>>majority
>>>>>>>of his own people are living in poverty and he is so rich. He is best
>>>> of
>>>>>>>friends with Castro and Russian leaders. He told Diane Sawyer that
he
>>>> was
>>>>>>>friends with all the world leaders, but President Bush is as dumb
as
>> a
>>>>>'donkey'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>CITGO CHANGING NAME...this is serious Americans...make sure you read
>> ..
>>>>>>>NEWS FLASH: Chavez is NOW getting a Russian Weapons Factory built
by
>>
>>>>>>>Putin.
>>>>>>>The RUSSIANS are building an AK-47 Kalashnikov Assault Rifle factory
>> in
>>>>>>Venezuela,
>>>>>>>to give armament support to Communist Rebel groups throughout the
>>>>>>>Americas.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Chavez NOW has IRANIANS operating his oil refineries in Venezuela
for
>>>> him.
>>>>>>>It is likely only a matter of time, if not already, before Chavez
has
>>>> Iranian
>>>>>>>built LONG RANGE missiles, with a variety of warhead types aimed at:
>>
>>>>>>>Guess
>>>>>>>Who?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>CITGO is NOW in the process of Changing Its Name to PETRO EXPRESS
due
>>>> to
>>>>>>>the loss of gasoline sales in the USA due to the recent publicity
of
>>
>>>>>>>ownership
>>>>>>>by Chavez of Venezuela.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Every dollar you spend with CITGO or PETRO EXPRESS gasoline will be
>> used
>>>>>>>against you, your basic human rights, and your freedoms. He will start
>>>>>wars
>>>>>>>here in the Americas that will probably be the death of millions of
>> free
>>>>>>>people.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT because Chavez is starting to feel the loss
of
>>>> revenue
>>>>>>>from his holdings. HE OWNS CITGO. This is a very important move that
>>
>>>>>>>everyone
>>>>>>>should be aware of.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>ANNOUNCED JUST RECENTLY, CITGO, BEING AWARE THAT SALES ARE DOWN DUE
>> TO
>>>>>U.S.
>>>>>>>CUSTOMERS NOT WANTING TO BUY FROM "CITGO-CHAVEZ", HAVE STARTED TO
>>>>>>>CHANGE
>>>>>>>THE NAME OF SOME OF THEIR STORES TO: "PETRO EXPRESS"
>>>>>>>DO NOT BUY FROM "PETRO EXPRESS" EITHER!!! "PETRO EXPRESS" IS ALSO
100%
>>>>>OWNED
>>>>>>>BY "CHAVEZ."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>KEEP THIS MEMO GOING SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT IS HAPPENING.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>BOYCOTT "CITGO" AND "PETRO EXPRESS".............MAKE SURE THIS IS
>>>>>>>PASSED
>>>>>>>ON TO EVERYONE in YOUR E-MAIL LIST IN THE UNITED STATES AND OUTSIDE
>> OF
>>>>>AMERICA.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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| Re: The world, oil, Citgo and Petro Express! [message #85557 is a reply to message #85555] |
Tue, 29 May 2007 14:22 |
wireline[8]
Messages: 1
Registered: May 2007
|
Junior Member |
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I suggest you discuss the definition of liberty with the people actually in
Venuzuela...I'm sure they (like most others) might take issue with your personal
problem with the President...
You have no idea what life is like in other countries, do you?
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>DJ ..My buddy and friend.. One name.. George W Bush.. :)The guys who has
single-handedly
>taken away our liberties. Everybody is a terroist if don;t agree with his
>office.and on and on..
>
>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>LaMont, my friend. I think you are misguided here. I respect your opinions,
>
>>but I wonder if you have ever been up close and personal with a totalitarian
>
>>state......socialist or otherwise. I have seen it (Nicaragua during and
>
>>after Somoza). Before you become enamoured with Somoza, I suggest you take
>
>>some time off and go to Venezuela while you still can travel without a
>>*state tender* (if this is even still possible) and spend about a month
>
>>travelling around down there.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>DJ
>>
>>
>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:4657da5b$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Hugo Chavez is a hero. A man willing to sand up for his counry and not
>let
>>> a another country (USA) tell him how to run thier commodity.
>>>
>>> This is nothing more than tipical US spin machine out to sway puplic
>>> opinion
>>> about those leaders that don't drink the US Kool-Aid.. They (Venezuelans)
>>> don't need our aid. They have their own precious commodity.
>>>
>>> Wake up people, are we to believe every word coming from our Goverment??
>>>
>>> Thanks God for Citgo..
>>>
>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>This was a email I received.
>>>>
>>>>Diane Sawyer on ABC news interviewed the Venezuelan leader Chavez just
>
>>>>last
>>>>week -- March 2007 He is so dangerous, and you can tell he is thrilled
>to
>>>>be selling oil toAmerica and having a foot on the throat of this country.
>>>>He is something else. If you did not hear the interview, the following
>was
>>>>discussed and it is true. They have all this money coming in and the
>>>>majority
>>>>of his own people are living in poverty and he is so rich. He is best
>of
>>>>friends with Castro and Russian leaders. He told Diane Sawyer that he
>was
>>>>friends with all the world leaders, but President Bush is as dumb as
a
>
>>>>'donkey'.
>>>>
>>>>CITGO CHANGING NAME...this is serious Americans...make sure you read
...
>>>>NEWS FLASH: Chavez is NOW getting a Russian Weapons Factory built by
>>>>Putin.
>>>>The RUSSIANS are building an AK-47 Kalashnikov Assault Rifle factory
in
>>> Venezuela,
>>>>to give armament support to Communist Rebel groups throughout the
>>>>Americas.
>>>>
>>>>Chavez NOW has IRANIANS operating his oil refineries in Venezuela for
>him.
>>>>It is likely only a matter of time, if not already, before Chavez has
>
>>>>Iranian
>>>>built LONG RANGE missiles, with a variety of warhead types aimed at:
Guess
>>>>Who?
>>>>
>>>>CITGO is NOW in the process of Changing Its Name to PETRO EXPRESS due
>to
>>>>the loss of gasoline sales in the USA due to the recent publicity of
>>>>ownership
>>>>by Chavez of Venezuela.
>>>>
>>>>Every dollar you spend with CITGO or PETRO EXPRESS gasoline will be used
>>>>against you, your basic human rights, and your freedoms. He will start
>
>>>>wars
>>>>here in the Americas that will probably be the death of millions of free
>>>>people.
>>>>
>>>>THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT because Chavez is starting to feel the loss of
>
>>>>revenue
>>>>from his holdings. HE OWNS CITGO. This is a very important move that
>>>>everyone
>>>>should be aware of.
>>>>
>>>>ANNOUNCED JUST RECENTLY, CITGO, BEING AWARE THAT SALES ARE DOWN DUE TO
>
>>>>U.S.
>>>>CUSTOMERS NOT WANTING TO BUY FROM "CITGO-CHAVEZ", HAVE STARTED TO CHANGE
>>>>THE NAME OF SOME OF THEIR STORES TO: "PETRO EXPRESS"
>>>>DO NOT BUY FROM "PETRO EXPRESS" EITHER!!! "PETRO EXPRESS" IS ALSO 100%
>
>>>>OWNED
>>>>BY "CHAVEZ."
>>>>
>>>>KEEP THIS MEMO GOING SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT IS HAPPENING.
>>>>
>>>>BOYCOTT "CITGO" AND "PETRO EXPRESS".............MAKE SURE THIS IS PASSED
>>>>ON TO EVERYONE in YOUR E-MAIL LIST IN THE UNITED STATES AND OUTSIDE OF
>
>>>>AMERICA.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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| Re: The world, oil, Citgo and Petro Express! [message #85560 is a reply to message #85550] |
Tue, 29 May 2007 15:16 |
JeffH
Messages: 307
Registered: October 2007
Location: Wamic, OR
|
Senior Member |
|
|
LaMont wrote:
> Hi Aaron,
>
> With do respect. This is about money and resources and race.
> I'm as american as anybody. But, I don't will not belive everything that
> comes from the US propaganda machine.. Not to change the subject, but can
> we say the Iraq war?
>
Sounds like words from a propaganda machine of a different flavor IMO.
Jeff
>
>
>
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>
>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritect.net> wrote in message news:465af034$1@linux...
>>
>>>DJ, I'm not that narrow minded. Just becasue he (Chavez) rags on Bush
>
> doe
>
>>>snot make me admire him. Like Castro, and many rulers who won;t follow
>
> the
>
>>>US foriegn policy and put their Country first is a leader I admire..
>>
>>Sorry man... gotta have some comedy first here. Bush Doe Snot. I get visuals
>
>
>>of deer boxing glove hunting with Cheney and Dubya standing on the other
>
>
>>side of the deer in question... ok,now that's out of the way and the tone
>
> is
>
>>hopefully set :)
>>
>>
>>This isn't about Bush or who 'rags' him - frankly as a 'white american'
>
> that
>
>>voted for him, I think he needs some of it for a few things I've seen. On
>
>
>>the other hand: If you think Chavez and Castro are so great, why don't you
>
>
>>move outta our house and into theirs? I'm sure you'd find plenty of
>>opportunities like recording audio and freedom of speech and religion there.
>
>
>>If you want to be able to admire leaders, why haven't you put more into
>
>
>>getting candidates here in office that you 'can' admire?
>>
>>
>>>Back in the 60s the US govermen called the Black Panthers a terrosit
>>>organization,
>>>it was not.. Then seeked to distroy them just beacause they wanted a
>>>better
>>>america for all especialy African Americans..
>>
>>I don't have a problem with betterment of African Americans. The BP's
>>started out as a very good idea in a time when black men were under fire,
>
>
>>and considered lesser men merited on skin color. As you may well know, I've
>
>
>>worked with some higher profile AA's and it has zero to do with a color
>
> as
>
>>far as I'm concerned - it's just people, some good some bad. However, you're
>
>
>>going to stand there and tell me splintered BP's never, ever used violence
>
>
>>for their agendas?
>>Frankly, I think a man's betterment doesn't come from some organization,
>
> it
>
>>comes from opportunity, skills, education and unfortunately sometimes who
>
>
>>you know. If this was still 1966, I'd agree with your stand but you are
>
>
>>behind the times dude, and there is a lot of racism from every corner based
>
>
>>upon old beliefs. Are you on the positive motion or the negative motion
>
> side
>
>>of the fence man?
>>
>>
>>>It hard for most white americans to belive that their country can do no
>
>
>>>wrong.
>>>It's just that most of us who are non white belive in the US goverment
>
> no
>
>>>mateer whos is office..
>>
>>I'm not real sure what you're trying to say here, but if I'm reading this
>
>
>>right from your other statements in this and past posts:
>>For me and those around me in perspective, color has little to nothing to
>
> do
>
>>with it unless the race card is being pulled out for political leverage.
>
> An
>
>>that ain't usually the 'white american'. Can we say Louisiana and Hurricane
>
>
>>ever again in the same sentence w/o the race card coming up? I find this
>
> bad
>
>>form and offensive LaMont, and telling of how you'd box in Deej into a
>>catagory on auto pilot. Be careful of blanket statements like that, it sure
>
>
>>doesn't shine a positive light man.
>>
>>Kick back, have a glass of tea and think about why you are making this
>>racial, and at who for what reasons. Then envision a more postiive response
>
>
>>and outcome.
>>
>>
>>AA
>>
>>
>>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>Before you become enamoured with Somoza,
>>>>
>>>>sorry.......I meant Chavez.......
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>and another thought........just because Chavez echoes your personal
>>>>opinions
>>>
>>>>about Bush, does not make him a "liberator". People like Chavez will say
>>>
>>>>whatever they think you want to hear as long as it suits their
>>>>agenda.....sorta like most American politicians.
>>>>
>>>>Deej
>>>>
>>>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:46585f86@linux...
>>>>
>>>>>LaMont, my friend. I think you are misguided here. I respect your
>>>>>opinions, but I wonder if you have ever been up close and personal with
>>>
>>>a
>>>
>>>>>totalitarian state......socialist or otherwise. I have seen it
>>>>>(Nicaragua
>>>
>>>>>during and after Somoza). Before you become enamoured with Somoza, I
>>>>>suggest you take some time off and go to Venezuela while you still can
>>>
>>>>>travel without a *state tender* (if this is even still possible) and
>
>
>>>>>spend
>>>
>>>>>about a month travelling around down there.
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>DJ
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message
>>>>>news:4657da5b$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hugo Chavez is a hero. A man willing to sand up for his counry and
>
> not
>
>>>>>>let
>>>>>>a another country (USA) tell him how to run thier commodity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This is nothing more than tipical US spin machine out to sway puplic
>>>
>>>>>>opinion
>>>>>>about those leaders that don't drink the US Kool-Aid.. They
>>>>>>(Venezuelans)
>>>>>>don't need our aid. They have their own precious commodity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Wake up people, are we to believe every word coming from our
>>>>>>Goverment??
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks God for Citgo..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>This was a email I received.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Diane Sawyer on ABC news interviewed the Venezuelan leader Chavez just
>>>
>>>>>>>last
>>>>>>>week -- March 2007 He is so dangerous, and you can tell he is thrilled
>>>
>>>to
>>>
>>>>>>>be selling oil toAmerica and having a foot on the throat of this
>>>>>>>country.
>>>>>>>He is something else. If you did not hear the interview, the following
>>>
>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>discussed and it is true. They have all this money coming in and the
>>>
>>>>>>>majority
>>>>>>>of his own people are living in poverty and he is so rich. He is best
>>>
>>>of
>>>
>>>>>>>friends with Castro and Russian leaders. He told Diane Sawyer that
>
> he
>
>>>was
>>>
>>>>>>>friends with all the world leaders, but President Bush is as dumb as
>>>
>>>a
>>>
>>>>>>>'donkey'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>CITGO CHANGING NAME...this is serious Americans...make sure you read
>>>
>>>..
>>>
>>>>>>>NEWS FLASH: Chavez is NOW getting a Russian Weapons Factory built by
>>>
>>>>>>>Putin.
>>>>>>>The RUSSIANS are building an AK-47 Kalashnikov Assault Rifle factory
>>>
>>>in
>>>
>>>>>>Venezuela,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>to give armament support to Communist Rebel groups throughout the
>>>>>>>Americas.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Chavez NOW has IRANIANS operating his oil refineries in Venezuela for
>>>
>>>>>>>him.
>>>>>>>It is likely only a matter of time, if not already, before Chavez has
>>>
>>>>>>>Iranian
>>>>>>>built LONG RANGE missiles, with a variety of warhead types aimed at:
>>>
>>>>>>>Guess
>>>>>>>Who?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>CITGO is NOW in the process of Changing Its Name to PETRO EXPRESS due
>>>
>>>to
>>>
>>>>>>>the loss of gasoline sales in the USA due to the recent publicity of
>>>
>>>>>>>ownership
>>>>>>>by Chavez of Venezuela.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Every dollar you spend with CITGO or PETRO EXPRESS gasoline will be
>
>
>>>>>>>used
>>>>>>>against you, your basic human rights, and your freedoms. He will start
>>>
>>>>>>>wars
>>>>>>>here in the Americas that will probably be the death of millions of
>
>
>>>>>>>free
>>>>>>>people.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT because Chavez is starting to feel the loss
>
> of
>
>>>>>>>revenue
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>from his holdings. HE OWNS CITGO. This is a very important move that
>>>
>>>>>>>everyone
>>>>>>>should be aware of.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>ANNOUNCED JUST RECENTLY, CITGO, BEING AWARE THAT SALES ARE DOWN DUE
>
> TO
>
>>>>>>>U.S.
>>>>>>>CUSTOMERS NOT WANTING TO BUY FROM "CITGO-CHAVEZ", HAVE STARTED TO
>>>>>>>CHANGE
>>>>>>>THE NAME OF SOME OF THEIR STORES TO: "PETRO EXPRESS"
>>>>>>>DO NOT BUY FROM "PETRO EXPRESS" EITHER!!! "PETRO EXPRESS" IS ALSO 100%
>>>
>>>>>>>OWNED
>>>>>>>BY "CHAVEZ."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>KEEP THIS MEMO GOING SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT IS HAPPENING.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>BOYCOTT "CITGO" AND "PETRO EXPRESS".............MAKE SURE THIS IS
>>>>>>>PASSED
>>>>>>>ON TO EVERYONE in YOUR E-MAIL LIST IN THE UNITED STATES AND OUTSIDE
>
> OF
>
>>>>>>>AMERICA.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
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| Re: The world, oil, Citgo and Petro Express! [message #85561 is a reply to message #85555] |
Tue, 29 May 2007 15:17 |
JeffH
Messages: 307
Registered: October 2007
Location: Wamic, OR
|
Senior Member |
|
|
LaMont wrote:
> DJ ..My buddy and friend.. One name.. George W Bush.. :)The guys who has single-handedly
> taken away our liberties. Everybody is a terroist if don;t agree with his
> office.and on and on..
>
Once again a propoganda machine of a different flavor...
Jeff
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>
>>LaMont, my friend. I think you are misguided here. I respect your opinions,
>
>
>>but I wonder if you have ever been up close and personal with a totalitarian
>
>
>>state......socialist or otherwise. I have seen it (Nicaragua during and
>
>
>>after Somoza). Before you become enamoured with Somoza, I suggest you take
>
>
>>some time off and go to Venezuela while you still can travel without a
>>*state tender* (if this is even still possible) and spend about a month
>
>
>>travelling around down there.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>DJ
>>
>>
>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:4657da5b$1@linux...
>>
>>>Hugo Chavez is a hero. A man willing to sand up for his counry and not
>
> let
>
>>>a another country (USA) tell him how to run thier commodity.
>>>
>>>This is nothing more than tipical US spin machine out to sway puplic
>>>opinion
>>>about those leaders that don't drink the US Kool-Aid.. They (Venezuelans)
>>>don't need our aid. They have their own precious commodity.
>>>
>>>Wake up people, are we to believe every word coming from our Goverment??
>>>
>>>Thanks God for Citgo..
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>This was a email I received.
>>>>
>>>>Diane Sawyer on ABC news interviewed the Venezuelan leader Chavez just
>
>
>>>>last
>>>>week -- March 2007 He is so dangerous, and you can tell he is thrilled
>
> to
>
>>>>be selling oil toAmerica and having a foot on the throat of this country.
>>>>He is something else. If you did not hear the interview, the following
>
> was
>
>>>>discussed and it is true. They have all this money coming in and the
>>>>majority
>>>>of his own people are living in poverty and he is so rich. He is best
>
> of
>
>>>>friends with Castro and Russian leaders. He told Diane Sawyer that he
>
> was
>
>>>>friends with all the world leaders, but President Bush is as dumb as a
>
>
>>>>'donkey'.
>>>>
>>>>CITGO CHANGING NAME...this is serious Americans...make sure you read ...
>>>>NEWS FLASH: Chavez is NOW getting a Russian Weapons Factory built by
>>>>Putin.
>>>>The RUSSIANS are building an AK-47 Kalashnikov Assault Rifle factory in
>>>
>>>Venezuela,
>>>
>>>>to give armament support to Communist Rebel groups throughout the
>>>>Americas.
>>>>
>>>>Chavez NOW has IRANIANS operating his oil refineries in Venezuela for
>
> him.
>
>>>>It is likely only a matter of time, if not already, before Chavez has
>
>
>>>>Iranian
>>>>built LONG RANGE missiles, with a variety of warhead types aimed at: Guess
>>>>Who?
>>>>
>>>>CITGO is NOW in the process of Changing Its Name to PETRO EXPRESS due
>
> to
>
>>>>the loss of gasoline sales in the USA due to the recent publicity of
>>>>ownership
>>>>by Chavez of Venezuela.
>>>>
>>>>Every dollar you spend with CITGO or PETRO EXPRESS gasoline will be used
>>>>against you, your basic human rights, and your freedoms. He will start
>
>
>>>>wars
>>>>here in the Americas that will probably be the death of millions of free
>>>>people.
>>>>
>>>>THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT because Chavez is starting to feel the loss of
>
>
>>>>revenue
>>>
>>>>from his holdings. HE OWNS CITGO. This is a very important move that
>>>
>>>>everyone
>>>>should be aware of.
>>>>
>>>>ANNOUNCED JUST RECENTLY, CITGO, BEING AWARE THAT SALES ARE DOWN DUE TO
>
>
>>>>U.S.
>>>>CUSTOMERS NOT WANTING TO BUY FROM "CITGO-CHAVEZ", HAVE STARTED TO CHANGE
>>>>THE NAME OF SOME OF THEIR STORES TO: "PETRO EXPRESS"
>>>>DO NOT BUY FROM "PETRO EXPRESS" EITHER!!! "PETRO EXPRESS" IS ALSO 100%
>
>
>>>>OWNED
>>>>BY "CHAVEZ."
>>>>
>>>>KEEP THIS MEMO GOING SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT IS HAPPENING.
>>>>
>>>>BOYCOTT "CITGO" AND "PETRO EXPRESS".............MAKE SURE THIS IS PASSED
>>>>ON TO EVERYONE in YOUR E-MAIL LIST IN THE UNITED STATES AND OUTSIDE OF
>
>
>>>>AMERICA.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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| Re: The world, oil, Citgo and Petro Express! [message #85562 is a reply to message #85556] |
Tue, 29 May 2007 15:19 |
JeffH
Messages: 307
Registered: October 2007
Location: Wamic, OR
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Senior Member |
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TCB wrote:
> Deej, don't forget that in the runup to the Iraq war Judith Miller was pretty
> much an unpaid war pimp for Cheney's office. Also, for the first couple of
> years the paper was rabidly pro war. Only when their readership started to
> demand it did they pipe down a bit.
>
Actually the media story changed when it became more popular to switch
sides. pro war was selling more papers for a time... now anti war
serves the same purpose.
Jeff
> TCB
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>
>>No I don't think so at all. the NY Times has published some stuff here (in
>
>
>>time of war) for which Castro (or Chavez, since he is Fidel's running dog
>
>
>>lackey) would have had the editor executed by firing squad.
>>
>>Personally, I would have just had the editor prosecuted for treason and
>
> then
>
>>thrown into a pit full of man eating pigs.
>>
>>;o)
>>.
>>
>>"LaMOnt" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:465af18e$1@linux...
>>
>>>Are we not moving in that same direction here in the good O'S USA?
>>>Especially
>>>when comes to reporting the IRAQ and Afghan war??
>>>
>>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>But, just because a country
>>>>
>>>>is communist, does that mean they are evil??<
>>>>
>>>>Yes. they are currently putting the nail in the coffin of the free press
>>>
>>>>there by shutting down the only TV station that broadcasts anything other
>>>
>>>>than the party line.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:465aed1e$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>>same with tme. I had a 88 Izuzu I mark and filled it with some citgo
>>>>>gas/water
>>>>>and it killed my catalytic converter..
>>>>>
>>>>>It took a long time for me to buy Citgo gas . But, just because a
>>>>>country
>>>>>is communist, does that mean they are evil??
>>>>>Come on man. Take off the USA blinders..
>>>>>
>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>By the way, In 1995 I purchased a brand new Firebird. About a month
>
>
>>>>>>after
>>>>>>getting the car I got gas at a Citgo station. with in minutes of
>>>>>>pulling
>>>>>>out, the engine ceased up. Towed it in to a dealer and found out I
>
> had
>
>>>>>bad
>>>>>
>>>>>>gas. I had the state of Michigan come out and test the gas. 71% was
>>>
>>>>>>water,
>>>>>>about 8% was solid garbage, and the rest was gas. It took out all of
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>>>>fuel injectors and the fuel pump. It did about $1700.00 in damage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Citgo refused to take any responsibility for their product, and refused
>>>>>>to pay for the damage. They immediately told me that they were not
>>>>>>responsible
>>>>>>for their product after it left their refinery. Apparently that was
>
>
>>>>>>their
>>>>>>standard response for anybody that called them about bad gas. It took
>>>
>>>>>>about
>>>>>>6 months to get it straitened out. The state of Michigan gave them
>
> a
>
>>>>>>choice,
>>>>>>pay for the damages or pay a $25,000.00 fine. The arab gas station
>
>
>>>>>>owner
>>>>>>had to pay for the damage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>My neighbor later told me that when that gas station would start running
>>>>>>out of gas he would see them put the garden hose down in to their tanks.
>>>>>>So I guess the owner deserved what he got. There were also many
>>>>>>reports
>>>>>>on the news of people getting bad gas from Citgo stations all over town.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Needless to say, I never buy gas at Citgo. What a PITA! If you want
>>>
>>>to
>>>
>>>>>>buy your gas from them that's up to you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>When possible I will avoid buying Communist made products. And yes
>
> I
>
>>>am
>>>
>>>>>>aware of where some of my favorite products are made. I don't like
>
> it.
>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hugo Chavez is a hero. A man willing to sand up for his counry and
>
> not
>
>>>>>let
>>>>>
>>>>>>>a another country (USA) tell him how to run thier commodity.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>This is nothing more than tipical US spin machine out to sway puplic
>>>
>>>>>>>opinion
>>>>>>>about those leaders that don't drink the US Kool-Aid.. They
>>>>>>>(Venezuelans)
>>>>>>>don't need our aid. They have their own precious commodity.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Wake up people, are we to believe every word coming from our
>>>>>>>Goverment??
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks God for Citgo..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>This was a email I received.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Diane Sawyer on ABC news interviewed the Venezuelan leader Chavez
>
> just
>
>>>>>>last
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>week -- March 2007 He is so dangerous, and you can tell he is thrilled
>>>>>>
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>be selling oil toAmerica and having a foot on the throat of this
>>>>>>>>country.
>>>>>>>>He is something else. If you did not hear the interview, the following
>>>>>>
>>>>>>was
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>discussed and it is true. They have all this money coming in and the
>>>
>>>>>>>>majority
>>>>>>>>of his own people are living in poverty and he is so rich. He is best
>>>>>
>>>>>of
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>friends with Castro and Russian leaders. He told Diane Sawyer that
>
> he
>
>>>>>was
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>friends with all the world leaders, but President Bush is as dumb
>
> as
>
>>>a
>>>
>>>>>>'donkey'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>CITGO CHANGING NAME...this is serious Americans...make sure you read
>>>
>>>..
>>>
>>>>>>>>NEWS FLASH: Chavez is NOW getting a Russian Weapons Factory built
>
> by
>
>>>>>>>>Putin.
>>>>>>>>The RUSSIANS are building an AK-47 Kalashnikov Assault Rifle factory
>>>
>>>in
>>>
>>>>>>>Venezuela,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>to give armament support to Communist Rebel groups throughout the
>>>>>>>>Americas.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Chavez NOW has IRANIANS operating his oil refineries in Venezuela
>
> for
>
>>>>>him.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It is likely only a matter of time, if not already, before Chavez
>
> has
>
>>>>>Iranian
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>built LONG RANGE missiles, with a variety of warhead types aimed at:
>>>
>>>>>>>>Guess
>>>>>>>>Who?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>CITGO is NOW in the process of Changing Its Name to PETRO EXPRESS
>
> due
>
>>>>>to
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>the loss of gasoline sales in the USA due to the recent publicity
>
> of
>
>>>>>>>>ownership
>>>>>>>>by Chavez of Venezuela.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Every dollar you spend with CITGO or PETRO EXPRESS gasoline will be
>>>
>>>used
>>>
>>>>>>>>against you, your basic human rights, and your freedoms. He will start
>>>>>>
>>>>>>wars
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>here in the Americas that will probably be the death of millions of
>>>
>>>free
>>>
>>>>>>>>people.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT because Chavez is starting to feel the loss
>
> of
>
>>>>>revenue
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>from his holdings. HE OWNS CITGO. This is a very important move that
>>>
>>>>>>>>everyone
>>>>>>>>should be aware of.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>ANNOUNCED JUST RECENTLY, CITGO, BEING AWARE THAT SALES ARE DOWN DUE
>>>
>>>TO
>>>
>>>>>>U.S.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>CUSTOMERS NOT WANTING TO BUY FROM "CITGO-CHAVEZ", HAVE STARTED TO
>
>
>>>>>>>>CHANGE
>>>>>>>>THE NAME OF SOME OF THEIR STORES TO: "PETRO EXPRESS"
>>>>>>>>DO NOT BUY FROM "PETRO EXPRESS" EITHER!!! "PETRO EXPRESS" IS ALSO
>
> 100%
>
>>>>>>OWNED
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>BY "CHAVEZ."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>KEEP THIS MEMO GOING SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT IS HAPPENING.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>BOYCOTT "CITGO" AND "PETRO EXPRESS".............MAKE SURE THIS IS
>
>
>>>>>>>>PASSED
>>>>>>>>ON TO EVERYONE in YOUR E-MAIL LIST IN THE UNITED STATES AND OUTSIDE
>>>
>>>OF
>>>
>>>>>>AMERICA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
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| Re: The world, oil, Citgo and Petro Express! [message #85576 is a reply to message #85553] |
Tue, 29 May 2007 19:38 |
dc[3]
Messages: 895
Registered: September 2005
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LaMont, I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt here
and assume good motives on your part.
What concerns me is that you use the admission that Chavez
is a dictator as simply another opportunity to blast Bush.
This does NOT make your case against Bush stronger, it
makes it weaker because you are not willing to stand against
Chavez. It makes you seem like a dishonest lefty blowhard
who hates his country so much that he will praise anyone
who criticizes it, no matter how wretched they are.
I prefer to think that is not the case.
If it is, then:
What makes you different from the anti-communist idiots
who put us on the side of the mujahadeen against the
russians in the Russian war in Afghanistan?
Is the enemy of your enemy really your friend?
Back in the 1970's after we left Vietnam, there was a
humanitarian disaster as the victorious north took revenge
on those who had opposed them in the south. There were
thousands of "boat people" doing anything they could to
escape torture and death and many died. Millions died in
Cambodia as the new dictators pursued ideological purity.
So, Joan Baez spoke out against the persecution of these
"boat people" by the new communist leaders. She called
fo peace and forgiveness in the new Vietnam.
Guess what? She was blasted by Jane Fonda. When asked why,
Jane responded that it was unacceptable to criticize a
communist government! We on the left just don't DO that,
don't you see?
My point is that you have to be either Jane or Joan. You do
NOT have to be a conservative to tell the truth about Chavez,
and telling the truth about Chavez does not mean you have to
like Bush.
It simply means you have to be honest.
DC
"LaMont" <jjppro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>So is Bush...
>
>
>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>
>> http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8PDFHC00&show_a rticle=1bu
>>
>>He's a dictator...
>
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| Re: The world, oil, Citgo and Petro Express! [message #85585 is a reply to message #85547] |
Tue, 29 May 2007 20:33 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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Senior Member |
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Yep, it's all the USA's fault. People are really happy down there, they just
love there new oppression. Lack of freedom is a real good thing! Freedom,
choice, democracy who needs it!!! It's all over rated. Bring on the communism
and tell the people that they own the country. Nothing like communist twisting
the truth!
"LaMont" <jjppro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>James.. Who and what country starts riots and protest???? Hint CIA.. Called
>ounter measures. Used when they dealing with a country that does not play
>ball with them..
Yep
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Here you go LaMont!
>>
>>Venezuelans Protest As TV Station Shuts
>>
>>http://apnews.excite.com/article/20070529/D8PDOG1G0.html
>>
>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>same with tme. I had a 88 Izuzu I mark and filled it with some citgo gas/water
>>>and it killed my catalytic converter..
>>>
>>>It took a long time for me to buy Citgo gas . But, just because a country
>>>is communist, does that mean they are evil??
>>>Come on man. Take off the USA blinders..
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>By the way, In 1995 I purchased a brand new Firebird. About a month
after
>>>>getting the car I got gas at a Citgo station. with in minutes of pulling
>>>>out, the engine ceased up. Towed it in to a dealer and found out I had
>>>bad
>>>>gas. I had the state of Michigan come out and test the gas. 71% was
>water,
>>>>about 8% was solid garbage, and the rest was gas. It took out all of
>the
>>>>fuel injectors and the fuel pump. It did about $1700.00 in damage.
>>>>
>>>> Citgo refused to take any responsibility for their product, and refused
>>>>to pay for the damage. They immediately told me that they were not responsible
>>>>for their product after it left their refinery. Apparently that was
their
>>>>standard response for anybody that called them about bad gas. It took
>>about
>>>>6 months to get it straitened out. The state of Michigan gave them a
>choice,
>>>>pay for the damages or pay a $25,000.00 fine. The arab gas station owner
>>>>had to pay for the damage.
>>>>
>>>>My neighbor later told me that when that gas station would start running
>>>>out of gas he would see them put the garden hose down in to their tanks.
>>>> So I guess the owner deserved what he got. There were also many reports
>>>>on the news of people getting bad gas from Citgo stations all over town.
>>>>
>>>>Needless to say, I never buy gas at Citgo. What a PITA! If you want
>to
>>>>buy your gas from them that's up to you.
>>>>
>>>>When possible I will avoid buying Communist made products. And yes I
>am
>>>>aware of where some of my favorite products are made. I don't like it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Hugo Chavez is a hero. A man willing to sand up for his counry and not
>>>let
>>>>>a another country (USA) tell him how to run thier commodity.
>>>>>
>>>>>This is nothing more than tipical US spin machine out to sway puplic
>opinion
>>>>>about those leaders that don't drink the US Kool-Aid.. They (Venezuelans)
>>>>>don't need our aid. They have their own precious commodity.
>>>>>
>>>>>Wake up people, are we to believe every word coming from our Goverment??
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks God for Citgo..
>>>>>
>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This was a email I received.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Diane Sawyer on ABC news interviewed the Venezuelan leader Chavez just
>>>>last
>>>>>>week -- March 2007 He is so dangerous, and you can tell he is thrilled
>>>>to
>>>>>>be selling oil toAmerica and having a foot on the throat of this country.
>>>>>>He is something else. If you did not hear the interview, the following
>>>>was
>>>>>>discussed and it is true. They have all this money coming in and the
>>majority
>>>>>>of his own people are living in poverty and he is so rich. He is best
>>>of
>>>>>>friends with Castro and Russian leaders. He told Diane Sawyer that
he
>>>was
>>>>>>friends with all the world leaders, but President Bush is as dumb as
>>a
>>>>'donkey'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>CITGO CHANGING NAME...this is serious Americans...make sure you read
>>..
>>>>>>NEWS FLASH: Chavez is NOW getting a Russian Weapons Factory built by
>>Putin.
>>>>>>The RUSSIANS are building an AK-47 Kalashnikov Assault Rifle factory
>>in
>>>>>Venezuela,
>>>>>>to give armament support to Communist Rebel groups throughout the Americas.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Chavez NOW has IRANIANS operating his oil refineries in Venezuela for
>>>him.
>>>>>>It is likely only a matter of time, if not already, before Chavez has
>>>Iranian
>>>>>>built LONG RANGE missiles, with a variety of warhead types aimed at:
>>Guess
>>>>>>Who?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>CITGO is NOW in the process of Changing Its Name to PETRO EXPRESS due
>>>to
>>>>>>the loss of gasoline sales in the USA due to the recent publicity of
>>ownership
>>>>>>by Chavez of Venezuela.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Every dollar you spend with CITGO or PETRO EXPRESS gasoline will be
>used
>>>>>>against you, your basic human rights, and your freedoms. He will start
>>>>wars
>>>>>>here in the Americas that will probably be the death of millions of
>free
>>>>>>people.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT because Chavez is starting to feel the loss
of
>>>revenue
>>>>>>from his holdings. HE OWNS CITGO. This is a very important move that
>>everyone
>>>>>>should be aware of.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>ANNOUNCED JUST RECENTLY, CITGO, BEING AWARE THAT SALES ARE DOWN DUE
>TO
>>>>U.S.
>>>>>>CUSTOMERS NOT WANTING TO BUY FROM "CITGO-CHAVEZ", HAVE STARTED TO CHANGE
>>>>>>THE NAME OF SOME OF THEIR STORES TO: "PETRO EXPRESS"
>>>>>>DO NOT BUY FROM "PETRO EXPRESS" EITHER!!! "PETRO EXPRESS" IS ALSO 100%
>>>>OWNED
>>>>>>BY "CHAVEZ."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>KEEP THIS MEMO GOING SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT IS HAPPENING.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>BOYCOTT "CITGO" AND "PETRO EXPRESS".............MAKE SURE THIS IS PASSED
>>>>>>ON TO EVERYONE in YOUR E-MAIL LIST IN THE UNITED STATES AND OUTSIDE
>OF
>>>>AMERICA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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| Re: The world, oil, Citgo and Petro Express! [message #85586 is a reply to message #85577] |
Tue, 29 May 2007 20:38 |
dc[3]
Messages: 895
Registered: September 2005
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Senior Member |
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Chuck,
I agree actually. But I wonder where the line is? Isn't there a line
that you cannot cross and still belong here? There is for me, and there
is for many others. Do you have one? I'll bet you do.
If we have none, and you can say anything you wish, then does being
an american mean anything?
DC
"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>
>Aaron Wrote
>
>"If you think Chavez and Castro are so great, why don't you move outta our
>house and into theirs? I'm sure you'd find plenty of
>opportunities like recording audio and freedom of speech and religion there."
>
>Aaron,
>
>I see/hear/read paraphrases of what you posted all the time. On bumperstickers,
>on the net and I hear it in casual conversation. It's a re-hash of love
>it or leave it.
>
>The thing that f@#(*&( kills me about it, every time I hear/see/read it
from
>people I love/hate/mildly dislike is that it boils down to the MOST ANTI
>AMERICAN expression possible.
>
>Chuck
>
>
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| Re: The world, oil, Citgo and Petro Express! [message #85587 is a reply to message #85546] |
Tue, 29 May 2007 20:44 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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Senior Member |
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So when they start killing and oppressing people as communist always do, will
that go a long with your Christen beliefs? I don't see how the two fit.
Just because Chavez is a communist and wants a communist government doesn't
mean that the people want it. I think they are proving that by their protesting.
Oh yeah, I forgot, that's just the dictator Bush's CIA at work, not the
real people of Venezuela.
"LaMont" <jjppro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>I thought you were a Christian?
>
>I am.. God's order of Government is a Theocracy and of a Democracy. One
ruler
>system.. Not baiting..
>
>USA should be dictating policy over another country. If they want to be
comunist
>let them. That's my belife. That does not manke me anyless american..
>
>
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>What's wrong wit Communism? I thought you were a Christian? Well anyways,
>>try freedom!!! When you rule your people with military force and take
their
>>freedoms away It's not a good thing. They will kill anybody that does
not
>>want to go along. He will stay rich while the people live in poverty,
that's
>>the Communist way. He is just another communist dictator. He want's to
>>arm Communist rebels all over south america. That's not good for anybody,
>>especially America. That will cause conflicts that a lot of people will
>>die in, possibly americans. The USA will not just stand by and watch south
>>america fall to communism.
>>
>>LaMont, I guess you are showing your true anti American colors. Or are
>you
>>just bating? Please clarify.
>>
>>
>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>same with tme. I had a 88 Izuzu I mark and filled it with some citgo gas/water
>>>and it killed my catalytic converter..
>>>
>>>It took a long time for me to buy Citgo gas . But, just because a country
>>>is communist, does that mean they are evil??
>>>Come on man. Take off the USA blinders..
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>By the way, In 1995 I purchased a brand new Firebird. About a month
after
>>>>getting the car I got gas at a Citgo station. with in minutes of pulling
>>>>out, the engine ceased up. Towed it in to a dealer and found out I had
>>>bad
>>>>gas. I had the state of Michigan come out and test the gas. 71% was
>water,
>>>>about 8% was solid garbage, and the rest was gas. It took out all of
>the
>>>>fuel injectors and the fuel pump. It did about $1700.00 in damage.
>>>>
>>>> Citgo refused to take any responsibility for their product, and refused
>>>>to pay for the damage. They immediately told me that they were not responsible
>>>>for their product after it left their refinery. Apparently that was
their
>>>>standard response for anybody that called them about bad gas. It took
>>about
>>>>6 months to get it straitened out. The state of Michigan gave them a
>choice,
>>>>pay for the damages or pay a $25,000.00 fine. The arab gas station owner
>>>>had to pay for the damage.
>>>>
>>>>My neighbor later told me that when that gas station would start running
>>>>out of gas he would see them put the garden hose down in to their tanks.
>>>> So I guess the owner deserved what he got. There were also many reports
>>>>on the news of people getting bad gas from Citgo stations all over town.
>>>>
>>>>Needless to say, I never buy gas at Citgo. What a PITA! If you want
>to
>>>>buy your gas from them that's up to you.
>>>>
>>>>When possible I will avoid buying Communist made products. And yes I
>am
>>>>aware of where some of my favorite products are made. I don't like it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Hugo Chavez is a hero. A man willing to sand up for his counry and not
>>>let
>>>>>a another country (USA) tell him how to run thier commodity.
>>>>>
>>>>>This is nothing more than tipical US spin machine out to sway puplic
>opinion
>>>>>about those leaders that don't drink the US Kool-Aid.. They (Venezuelans)
>>>>>don't need our aid. They have their own precious commodity.
>>>>>
>>>>>Wake up people, are we to believe every word coming from our Goverment??
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks God for Citgo..
>>>>>
>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This was a email I received.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Diane Sawyer on ABC news interviewed the Venezuelan leader Chavez just
>>>>last
>>>>>>week -- March 2007 He is so dangerous, and you can tell he is thrilled
>>>>to
>>>>>>be selling oil toAmerica and having a foot on the throat of this country.
>>>>>>He is something else. If you did not hear the interview, the following
>>>>was
>>>>>>discussed and it is true. They have all this money coming in and the
>>majority
>>>>>>of his own people are living in poverty and he is so rich. He is best
>>>of
>>>>>>friends with Castro and Russian leaders. He told Diane Sawyer that
he
>>>was
>>>>>>friends with all the world leaders, but President Bush is as dumb as
>>a
>>>>'donkey'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>CITGO CHANGING NAME...this is serious Americans...make sure you read
>>..
>>>>>>NEWS FLASH: Chavez is NOW getting a Russian Weapons Factory built by
>>Putin.
>>>>>>The RUSSIANS are building an AK-47 Kalashnikov Assault Rifle factory
>>in
>>>>>Venezuela,
>>>>>>to give armament support to Communist Rebel groups throughout the Americas.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Chavez NOW has IRANIANS operating his oil refineries in Venezuela for
>>>him.
>>>>>>It is likely only a matter of time, if not already, before Chavez has
>>>Iranian
>>>>>>built LONG RANGE missiles, with a variety of warhead types aimed at:
>>Guess
>>>>>>Who?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>CITGO is NOW in the process of Changing Its Name to PETRO EXPRESS due
>>>to
>>>>>>the loss of gasoline sales in the USA due to the recent publicity of
>>ownership
>>>>>>by Chavez of Venezuela.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Every dollar you spend with CITGO or PETRO EXPRESS gasoline will be
>used
>>>>>>against you, your basic human rights, and your freedoms. He will start
>>>>wars
>>>>>>here in the Americas that will probably be the death of millions of
>free
>>>>>>people.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT because Chavez is starting to feel the loss
of
>>>revenue
>>>>>>from his holdings. HE OWNS CITGO. This is a very important move that
>>everyone
>>>>>>should be aware of.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>ANNOUNCED JUST RECENTLY, CITGO, BEING AWARE THAT SALES ARE DOWN DUE
>TO
>>>>U.S.
>>>>>>CUSTOMERS NOT WANTING TO BUY FROM "CITGO-CHAVEZ", HAVE STARTED TO CHANGE
>>>>>>THE NAME OF SOME OF THEIR STORES TO: "PETRO EXPRESS"
>>>>>>DO NOT BUY FROM "PETRO EXPRESS" EITHER!!! "PETRO EXPRESS" IS ALSO 100%
>>>>OWNED
>>>>>>BY "CHAVEZ."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>KEEP THIS MEMO GOING SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT IS HAPPENING.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>BOYCOTT "CITGO" AND "PETRO EXPRESS".............MAKE SURE THIS IS PASSED
>>>>>>ON TO EVERYONE in YOUR E-MAIL LIST IN THE UNITED STATES AND OUTSIDE
>OF
>>>>AMERICA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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| Re: The world, oil, Citgo and Petro Express! [message #85590 is a reply to message #85587] |
Tue, 29 May 2007 20:55 |
LaMont
Messages: 828
Registered: October 2005
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You got it..
Question; Do you think every american wants capitalism? or would they prefer
free health care and social security???
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>So when they start killing and oppressing people as communist always do,
will
>that go a long with your Christen beliefs? I don't see how the two fit.
>
>Just because Chavez is a communist and wants a communist government doesn't
>mean that the people want it. I think they are proving that by their protesting.
> Oh yeah, I forgot, that's just the dictator Bush's CIA at work, not the
>real people of Venezuela.
>
>
>"LaMont" <jjppro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>
>>I thought you were a Christian?
>>
>>I am.. God's order of Government is a Theocracy and of a Democracy. One
>ruler
>>system.. Not baiting..
>>
>>USA should be dictating policy over another country. If they want to be
>comunist
>>let them. That's my belife. That does not manke me anyless american..
>>
>>
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>What's wrong wit Communism? I thought you were a Christian? Well anyways,
>>>try freedom!!! When you rule your people with military force and take
>their
>>>freedoms away It's not a good thing. They will kill anybody that does
>not
>>>want to go along. He will stay rich while the people live in poverty,
>that's
>>>the Communist way. He is just another communist dictator. He want's
to
>>>arm Communist rebels all over south america. That's not good for anybody,
>>>especially America. That will cause conflicts that a lot of people will
>>>die in, possibly americans. The USA will not just stand by and watch
south
>>>america fall to communism.
>>>
>>>LaMont, I guess you are showing your true anti American colors. Or are
>>you
>>>just bating? Please clarify.
>>>
>>>
>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>same with tme. I had a 88 Izuzu I mark and filled it with some citgo
gas/water
>>>>and it killed my catalytic converter..
>>>>
>>>>It took a long time for me to buy Citgo gas . But, just because a country
>>>>is communist, does that mean they are evil??
>>>>Come on man. Take off the USA blinders..
>>>>
>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>By the way, In 1995 I purchased a brand new Firebird. About a month
>after
>>>>>getting the car I got gas at a Citgo station. with in minutes of pulling
>>>>>out, the engine ceased up. Towed it in to a dealer and found out I
had
>>>>bad
>>>>>gas. I had the state of Michigan come out and test the gas. 71% was
>>water,
>>>>>about 8% was solid garbage, and the rest was gas. It took out all of
>>the
>>>>>fuel injectors and the fuel pump. It did about $1700.00 in damage.
>>>>>
>>>>> Citgo refused to take any responsibility for their product, and refused
>>>>>to pay for the damage. They immediately told me that they were not
responsible
>>>>>for their product after it left their refinery. Apparently that was
>their
>>>>>standard response for anybody that called them about bad gas. It took
>>>about
>>>>>6 months to get it straitened out. The state of Michigan gave them
a
>>choice,
>>>>>pay for the damages or pay a $25,000.00 fine. The arab gas station
owner
>>>>>had to pay for the damage.
>>>>>
>>>>>My neighbor later told me that when that gas station would start running
>>>>>out of gas he would see them put the garden hose down in to their tanks.
>>>>> So I guess the owner deserved what he got. There were also many reports
>>>>>on the news of people getting bad gas from Citgo stations all over town.
>>>>>
>>>>>Needless to say, I never buy gas at Citgo. What a PITA! If you want
>>to
>>>>>buy your gas from them that's up to you.
>>>>>
>>>>>When possible I will avoid buying Communist made products. And yes
I
>>am
>>>>>aware of where some of my favorite products are made. I don't like
it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hugo Chavez is a hero. A man willing to sand up for his counry and
not
>>>>let
>>>>>>a another country (USA) tell him how to run thier commodity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This is nothing more than tipical US spin machine out to sway puplic
>>opinion
>>>>>>about those leaders that don't drink the US Kool-Aid.. They (Venezuelans)
>>>>>>don't need our aid. They have their own precious commodity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Wake up people, are we to believe every word coming from our Goverment??
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks God for Citgo..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>This was a email I received.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Diane Sawyer on ABC news interviewed the Venezuelan leader Chavez
just
>>>>>last
>>>>>>>week -- March 2007 He is so dangerous, and you can tell he is thrilled
>>>>>to
>>>>>>>be selling oil toAmerica and having a foot on the throat of this country.
>>>>>>>He is something else. If you did not hear the interview, the following
>>>>>was
>>>>>>>discussed and it is true. They have all this money coming in and the
>>>majority
>>>>>>>of his own people are living in poverty and he is so rich. He is best
>>>>of
>>>>>>>friends with Castro and Russian leaders. He told Diane Sawyer that
>he
>>>>was
>>>>>>>friends with all the world leaders, but President Bush is as dumb
as
>>>a
>>>>>'donkey'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>CITGO CHANGING NAME...this is serious Americans...make sure you read
>>>..
>>>>>>>NEWS FLASH: Chavez is NOW getting a Russian Weapons Factory built
by
>>>Putin.
>>>>>>>The RUSSIANS are building an AK-47 Kalashnikov Assault Rifle factory
>>>in
>>>>>>Venezuela,
>>>>>>>to give armament support to Communist Rebel groups throughout the
Americas.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Chavez NOW has IRANIANS operating his oil refineries in Venezuela
for
>>>>him.
>>>>>>>It is likely only a matter of time, if not already, before Chavez
has
>>>>Iranian
>>>>>>>built LONG RANGE missiles, with a variety of warhead types aimed at:
>>>Guess
>>>>>>>Who?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>CITGO is NOW in the process of Changing Its Name to PETRO EXPRESS
due
>>>>to
>>>>>>>the loss of gasoline sales in the USA due to the recent publicity
of
>>>ownership
>>>>>>>by Chavez of Venezuela.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Every dollar you spend with CITGO or PETRO EXPRESS gasoline will be
>>used
>>>>>>>against you, your basic human rights, and your freedoms. He will start
>>>>>wars
>>>>>>>here in the Americas that will probably be the death of millions of
>>free
>>>>>>>people.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT because Chavez is starting to feel the loss
>of
>>>>revenue
>>>>>>>from his holdings. HE OWNS CITGO. This is a very important move that
>>>everyone
>>>>>>>should be aware of.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>ANNOUNCED JUST RECENTLY, CITGO, BEING AWARE THAT SALES ARE DOWN DUE
>>TO
>>>>>U.S.
>>>>>>>CUSTOMERS NOT WANTING TO BUY FROM "CITGO-CHAVEZ", HAVE STARTED TO
CHANGE
>>>>>>>THE NAME OF SOME OF THEIR STORES TO: "PETRO EXPRESS"
>>>>>>>DO NOT BUY FROM "PETRO EXPRESS" EITHER!!! "PETRO EXPRESS" IS ALSO
100%
>>>>>OWNED
>>>>>>>BY "CHAVEZ."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>KEEP THIS MEMO GOING SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT IS HAPPENING.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>BOYCOTT "CITGO" AND "PETRO EXPRESS".............MAKE SURE THIS IS
PASSED
>>>>>>>ON TO EVERYONE in YOUR E-MAIL LIST IN THE UNITED STATES AND OUTSIDE
>>OF
>>>>>AMERICA.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: The world, oil, Citgo and Petro Express! [message #85591 is a reply to message #85548] |
Tue, 29 May 2007 20:59 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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The Black Panthers a peaceful group??? They even killed some of there own!
My dad had friends that were cops back then that told my dad they had cells
all around St. Louis and Detroit. They were organizing and planning to take
over the cities by force when they raided them, thanks to the help of black
cops!
May be there concept of doing something about oppression was a good one at
the time, but they were a violent group that was calling for armed resistance
from the get go. Had they been peaceful and not a militant group that killed
people, maybe they could have done some good. Their hate did them in!
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>They were a peaceful organization.. Stop drinking the USA Kool-Aid and think
>for your self.
>
>They(Black Panthers)took up arms against te opressive US government to protect
>the Blacks who being oppressed and lynched..
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Yeah the black Panthers were a peaceful group. Two wrongs don't make a
>right.
>> Come on LaMont!
>>
>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritect.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>DJ, I'm not that narrow minded. Just becasue he (Chavez) rags on Bush
doe
>>>snot make me admire him. Like Castro, and many rulers who won;t follow
>the
>>>US foriegn policy and put their Country first is a leader I admire..
>>>
>>>Back in the 60s the US govermen called the Black Panthers a terrosit organization,
>>>it was not.. Then seeked to distroy them just beacause they wanted a better
>>>america for all especialy African Americans..
>>>
>>>It hard for most white americans to belive that their country can do no
>>wrong.
>>>It's just that most of us who are non white belive in the US goverment
>
>>no
>>>mateer whos is office..
>>>
>>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>>Before you become enamoured with Somoza,
>>>>
>>>>sorry.......I meant Chavez.......
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>and another thought........just because Chavez echoes your personal opinions
>>>
>>>>about Bush, does not make him a "liberator". People like Chavez will
say
>>>
>>>>whatever they think you want to hear as long as it suits their
>>>>agenda.....sorta like most American politicians.
>>>>
>>>>Deej
>>>>
>>>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:46585f86@linux...
>>>>> LaMont, my friend. I think you are misguided here. I respect your
>>>>> opinions, but I wonder if you have ever been up close and personal
with
>>>a
>>>>> totalitarian state......socialist or otherwise. I have seen it (Nicaragua
>>>
>>>>> during and after Somoza). Before you become enamoured with Somoza,
I
>>
>>>>> suggest you take some time off and go to Venezuela while you still
can
>>>
>>>>> travel without a *state tender* (if this is even still possible) and
>>spend
>>>
>>>>> about a month travelling around down there.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> DJ
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:4657da5b$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hugo Chavez is a hero. A man willing to sand up for his counry and
>not
>>>
>>>>>> let
>>>>>> a another country (USA) tell him how to run thier commodity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is nothing more than tipical US spin machine out to sway puplic
>>>
>>>>>> opinion
>>>>>> about those leaders that don't drink the US Kool-Aid.. They (Venezuelans)
>>>>>> don't need our aid. They have their own precious commodity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wake up people, are we to believe every word coming from our Goverment??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks God for Citgo..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>This was a email I received.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Diane Sawyer on ABC news interviewed the Venezuelan leader Chavez
just
>>>
>>>>>>>last
>>>>>>>week -- March 2007 He is so dangerous, and you can tell he is thrilled
>>>to
>>>>>>>be selling oil toAmerica and having a foot on the throat of this country.
>>>>>>>He is something else. If you did not hear the interview, the following
>>>
>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>discussed and it is true. They have all this money coming in and the
>>>
>>>>>>>majority
>>>>>>>of his own people are living in poverty and he is so rich. He is best
>>>of
>>>>>>>friends with Castro and Russian leaders. He told Diane Sawyer that
>he
>>>was
>>>>>>>friends with all the world leaders, but President Bush is as dumb
as
>>>a
>>>>>>>'donkey'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>CITGO CHANGING NAME...this is serious Americans...make sure you read
>>>..
>>>>>>>NEWS FLASH: Chavez is NOW getting a Russian Weapons Factory built
by
>>>
>>>>>>>Putin.
>>>>>>>The RUSSIANS are building an AK-47 Kalashnikov Assault Rifle factory
>>>in
>>>>>> Venezuela,
>>>>>>>to give armament support to Communist Rebel groups throughout the
>>>>>>>Americas.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Chavez NOW has IRANIANS operating his oil refineries in Venezuela
for
>>>
>>>>>>>him.
>>>>>>>It is likely only a matter of time, if not already, before Chavez
has
>>>
>>>>>>>Iranian
>>>>>>>built LONG RANGE missiles, with a variety of warhead types aimed at:
>>>
>>>>>>>Guess
>>>>>>>Who?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>CITGO is NOW in the process of Changing Its Name to PETRO EXPRESS
due
>>>to
>>>>>>>the loss of gasoline sales in the USA due to the recent publicity
of
>>>
>>>>>>>ownership
>>>>>>>by Chavez of Venezuela.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Every dollar you spend with CITGO or PETRO EXPRESS gasoline will be
>>used
>>>>>>>against you, your basic human rights, and your freedoms. He will start
>>>
>>>>>>>wars
>>>>>>>here in the Americas that will probably be the death of millions of
>>free
>>>>>>>people.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT because Chavez is starting to feel the loss
>of
>>>
>>>>>>>revenue
>>>>>>>from his holdings. HE OWNS CITGO. This is a very important move that
>>>
>>>>>>>everyone
>>>>>>>should be aware of.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>ANNOUNCED JUST RECENTLY, CITGO, BEING AWARE THAT SALES ARE DOWN DUE
>>TO
>>>
>>>>>>>U.S.
>>>>>>>CUSTOMERS NOT WANTING TO BUY FROM "CITGO-CHAVEZ", HAVE STARTED TO
CHANGE
>>>>>>>THE NAME OF SOME OF THEIR STORES TO: "PETRO EXPRESS"
>>>>>>>DO NOT BUY FROM "PETRO EXPRESS" EITHER!!! "PETRO EXPRESS" IS ALSO
100%
>>>
>>>>>>>OWNED
>>>>>>>BY "CHAVEZ."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>KEEP THIS MEMO GOING SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT IS HAPPENING.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>BOYCOTT "CITGO" AND "PETRO EXPRESS".............MAKE SURE THIS IS
PASSED
>>>>>>>ON TO EVERYONE in YOUR E-MAIL LIST IN THE UNITED STATES AND OUTSIDE
>>OF
>>>
>>>>>>>AMERICA.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: The world, oil, Citgo and Petro Express! [message #85598 is a reply to message #85591] |
Tue, 29 May 2007 21:19 |
LaMont
Messages: 828
Registered: October 2005
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Senior Member |
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No their hate did not do them in.. The CIA did them in.
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>The Black Panthers a peaceful group??? They even killed some of there own!
> My dad had friends that were cops back then that told my dad they had cells
>all around St. Louis and Detroit. They were organizing and planning to
take
>over the cities by force when they raided them, thanks to the help of black
>cops!
>
>May be there concept of doing something about oppression was a good one
at
>the time, but they were a violent group that was calling for armed resistance
>from the get go. Had they been peaceful and not a militant group that killed
>people, maybe they could have done some good. Their hate did them in!
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>
>>They were a peaceful organization.. Stop drinking the USA Kool-Aid and
think
>>for your self.
>>
>>They(Black Panthers)took up arms against te opressive US government to
protect
>>the Blacks who being oppressed and lynched..
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Yeah the black Panthers were a peaceful group. Two wrongs don't make
a
>>right.
>>> Come on LaMont!
>>>
>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritect.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>DJ, I'm not that narrow minded. Just becasue he (Chavez) rags on Bush
>doe
>>>>snot make me admire him. Like Castro, and many rulers who won;t follow
>>the
>>>>US foriegn policy and put their Country first is a leader I admire..
>>>>
>>>>Back in the 60s the US govermen called the Black Panthers a terrosit
organization,
>>>>it was not.. Then seeked to distroy them just beacause they wanted a
better
>>>>america for all especialy African Americans..
>>>>
>>>>It hard for most white americans to belive that their country can do
no
>>>wrong.
>>>>It's just that most of us who are non white belive in the US goverment
>>
>>>no
>>>>mateer whos is office..
>>>>
>>>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>>>Before you become enamoured with Somoza,
>>>>>
>>>>>sorry.......I meant Chavez.......
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>and another thought........just because Chavez echoes your personal
opinions
>>>>
>>>>>about Bush, does not make him a "liberator". People like Chavez will
>say
>>>>
>>>>>whatever they think you want to hear as long as it suits their
>>>>>agenda.....sorta like most American politicians.
>>>>>
>>>>>Deej
>>>>>
>>>>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:46585f86@linux...
>>>>>> LaMont, my friend. I think you are misguided here. I respect your
>>>>>> opinions, but I wonder if you have ever been up close and personal
>with
>>>>a
>>>>>> totalitarian state......socialist or otherwise. I have seen it (Nicaragua
>>>>
>>>>>> during and after Somoza). Before you become enamoured with Somoza,
>I
>>>
>>>>>> suggest you take some time off and go to Venezuela while you still
>can
>>>>
>>>>>> travel without a *state tender* (if this is even still possible) and
>>>spend
>>>>
>>>>>> about a month travelling around down there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:4657da5b$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hugo Chavez is a hero. A man willing to sand up for his counry and
>>not
>>>>
>>>>>>> let
>>>>>>> a another country (USA) tell him how to run thier commodity.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is nothing more than tipical US spin machine out to sway puplic
>>>>
>>>>>>> opinion
>>>>>>> about those leaders that don't drink the US Kool-Aid.. They (Venezuelans)
>>>>>>> don't need our aid. They have their own precious commodity.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wake up people, are we to believe every word coming from our Goverment??
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks God for Citgo..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>This was a email I received.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Diane Sawyer on ABC news interviewed the Venezuelan leader Chavez
>just
>>>>
>>>>>>>>last
>>>>>>>>week -- March 2007 He is so dangerous, and you can tell he is thrilled
>>>>to
>>>>>>>>be selling oil toAmerica and having a foot on the throat of this
country.
>>>>>>>>He is something else. If you did not hear the interview, the following
>>>>
>>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>discussed and it is true. They have all this money coming in and
the
>>>>
>>>>>>>>majority
>>>>>>>>of his own people are living in poverty and he is so rich. He is
best
>>>>of
>>>>>>>>friends with Castro and Russian leaders. He told Diane Sawyer that
>>he
>>>>was
>>>>>>>>friends with all the world leaders, but President Bush is as dumb
>as
>>>>a
>>>>>>>>'donkey'.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>CITGO CHANGING NAME...this is serious Americans...make sure you read
>>>>..
>>>>>>>>NEWS FLASH: Chavez is NOW getting a Russian Weapons Factory built
>by
>>>>
>>>>>>>>Putin.
>>>>>>>>The RUSSIANS are building an AK-47 Kalashnikov Assault Rifle factory
>>>>in
>>>>>>> Venezuela,
>>>>>>>>to give armament support to Communist Rebel groups throughout the
>
>>>>>>>>Americas.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Chavez NOW has IRANIANS operating his oil refineries in Venezuela
>for
>>>>
>>>>>>>>him.
>>>>>>>>It is likely only a matter of time, if not already, before Chavez
>has
>>>>
>>>>>>>>Iranian
>>>>>>>>built LONG RANGE missiles, with a variety of warhead types aimed
at:
>>>>
>>>>>>>>Guess
>>>>>>>>Who?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>CITGO is NOW in the process of Changing Its Name to PETRO EXPRESS
>due
>>>>to
>>>>>>>>the loss of gasoline sales in the USA due to the recent publicity
>of
>>>>
>>>>>>>>ownership
>>>>>>>>by Chavez of Venezuela.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Every dollar you spend with CITGO or PETRO EXPRESS gasoline will
be
>>>used
>>>>>>>>against you, your basic human rights, and your freedoms. He will
start
>>>>
>>>>>>>>wars
>>>>>>>>here in the Americas that will probably be the death of millions
of
>>>free
>>>>>>>>people.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT because Chavez is starting to feel the loss
>>of
>>>>
>>>>>>>>revenue
>>>>>>>>from his holdings. HE OWNS CITGO. This is a very important move that
>>>>
>>>>>>>>everyone
>>>>>>>>should be aware of.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>ANNOUNCED JUST RECENTLY, CITGO, BEING AWARE THAT SALES ARE DOWN DUE
>>>TO
>>>>
>>>>>>>>U.S.
>>>>>>>>CUSTOMERS NOT WANTING TO BUY FROM "CITGO-CHAVEZ", HAVE STARTED TO
>CHANGE
>>>>>>>>THE NAME OF SOME OF THEIR STORES TO: "PETRO EXPRESS"
>>>>>>>>DO NOT BUY FROM "PETRO EXPRESS" EITHER!!! "PETRO EXPRESS" IS ALSO
>100%
>>>>
>>>>>>>>OWNED
>>>>>>>>BY "CHAVEZ."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>KEEP THIS MEMO GOING SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT IS HAPPENING.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>BOYCOTT "CITGO" AND "PETRO EXPRESS".............MAKE SURE THIS IS
>PASSED
>>>>>>>>ON TO EVERYONE in YOUR E-MAIL LIST IN THE UNITED STATES AND OUTSIDE
>>>OF
>>>>
>>>>>>>>AMERICA.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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| Re: The world, oil, Citgo and Petro Express! [message #85599 is a reply to message #85591] |
Tue, 29 May 2007 21:19 |
LaMont
Messages: 828
Registered: October 2005
|
Senior Member |
|
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No their hate did not do them in.. The CIA did them in.
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>The Black Panthers a peaceful group??? They even killed some of there own!
> My dad had friends that were cops back then that told my dad they had cells
>all around St. Louis and Detroit. They were organizing and planning to
take
>over the cities by force when they raided them, thanks to the help of black
>cops!
>
>May be there concept of doing something about oppression was a good one
at
>the time, but they were a violent group that was calling for armed resistance
>from the get go. Had they been peaceful and not a militant group that killed
>people, maybe they could have done some good. Their hate did them in!
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>
>>They were a peaceful organization.. Stop drinking the USA Kool-Aid and
think
>>for your self.
>>
>>They(Black Panthers)took up arms against te opressive US government to
protect
>>the Blacks who being oppressed and lynched..
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Yeah the black Panthers were a peaceful group. Two wrongs don't make
a
>>right.
>>> Come on LaMont!
>>>
>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritect.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>DJ, I'm not that narrow minded. Just becasue he (Chavez) rags on Bush
>doe
>>>>snot make me admire him. Like Castro, and many rulers who won;t follow
>>the
>>>>US foriegn policy and put their Country first is a leader I admire..
>>>>
>>>>Back in the 60s the US govermen called the Black Panthers a terrosit
organization,
>>>>it was not.. Then seeked to distroy them just beacause they wanted a
better
>>>>america for all especialy African Americans..
>>>>
>>>>It hard for most white americans to belive that their country can do
no
>>>wrong.
>>>>It's just that most of us who are non white belive in the US goverment
>>
>>>no
>>>>mateer whos is office..
>>>>
>>>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>>>Before you become enamoured with Somoza,
>>>>>
>>>>>sorry.......I meant Chavez.......
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>and another thought........just because Chavez echoes your personal
opinions
>>>>
>>>>>about Bush, does not make him a "liberator". People like Chavez will
>say
>>>>
>>>>>whatever they think you want to hear as long as it suits their
>>>>>agenda.....sorta like most American politicians.
>>>>>
>>>>>Deej
>>>>>
>>>>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:46585f86@linux...
>>>>>> LaMont, my friend. I think you are misguided here. I respect your
>>>>>> opinions, but I wonder if you have ever been up close and personal
>with
>>>>a
>>>>>> totalitarian state......socialist or otherwise. I have seen it (Nicaragua
>>>>
>>>>>> during and after Somoza). Before you become enamoured with Somoza,
>I
>>>
>>>>>> suggest you take some time off and go to Venezuela while you still
>can
>>>>
>>>>>> travel without a *state tender* (if this is even still possible) and
>>>spend
>>>>
>>>>>> about a month travelling around down there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:4657da5b$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hugo Chavez is a hero. A man willing to sand up for his counry and
>>not
>>>>
>>>>>>> let
>>>>>>> a another country (USA) tell him how to run thier commodity.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is nothing more than tipical US spin machine out to sway puplic
>>>>
>>>>>>> opinion
>>>>>>> about those leaders that don't drink the US Kool-Aid.. They (Venezuelans)
>>>>>>> don't need our aid. They have their own precious commodity.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wake up people, are we to believe every word coming from our Goverment??
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks God for Citgo..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>This was a email I received.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Diane Sawyer on ABC news interviewed the Venezuelan leader Chavez
>just
>>>>
>>>>>>>>last
>>>>>>>>week -- March 2007 He is so dangerous, and you can tell he is thrilled
>>>>to
>>>>>>>>be selling oil toAmerica and having a foot on the throat of this
country.
>>>>>>>>He is something else. If you did not hear the interview, the following
>>>>
>>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>discussed and it is true. They have all this money coming in and
the
>>>>
>>>>>>>>majority
>>>>>>>>of his own people are living in poverty and he is so rich. He is
best
>>>>of
>>>>>>>>friends with Castro and Russian leaders. He told Diane Sawyer that
>>he
>>>>was
>>>>>>>>friends with all the world leaders, but President Bush is as dumb
>as
>>>>a
>>>>>>>>'donkey'.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>CITGO CHANGING NAME...this is serious Americans...make sure you read
>>>>..
>>>>>>>>NEWS FLASH: Chavez is NOW getting a Russian Weapons Factory built
>by
>>>>
>>>>>>>>Putin.
>>>>>>>>The RUSSIANS are building an AK-47 Kalashnikov Assault Rifle factory
>>>>in
>>>>>>> Venezuela,
>>>>>>>>to give armament support to Communist Rebel groups throughout the
>
>>>>>>>>Americas.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Chavez NOW has IRANIANS operating his oil refineries in Venezuela
>for
>>>>
>>>>>>>>him.
>>>>>>>>It is likely only a matter of time, if not already, before Chavez
>has
>>>>
>>>>>>>>Iranian
>>>>>>>>built LONG RANGE missiles, with a variety of warhead types aimed
at:
>>>>
>>>>>>>>Guess
>>>>>>>>Who?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>CITGO is NOW in the process of Changing Its Name to PETRO EXPRESS
>due
>>>>to
>>>>>>>>the loss of gasoline sales in the USA due to the recent publicity
>of
>>>>
>>>>>>>>ownership
>>>>>>>>by Chavez of Venezuela.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Every dollar you spend with CITGO or PETRO EXPRESS gasoline will
be
>>>used
>>>>>>>>against you, your basic human rights, and your freedoms. He will
start
>>>>
>>>>>>>>wars
>>>>>>>>here in the Americas that will probably be the death of millions
of
>>>free
>>>>>>>>people.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT because Chavez is starting to feel the loss
>>of
>>>>
>>>>>>>>revenue
>>>>>>>>from his holdings. HE OWNS CITGO. This is a very important move that
>>>>
>>>>>>>>everyone
>>>>>>>>should be aware of.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>ANNOUNCED JUST RECENTLY, CITGO, BEING AWARE THAT SALES ARE DOWN DUE
>>>TO
>>>>
>>>>>>>>U.S.
>>>>>>>>CUSTOMERS NOT WANTING TO BUY FROM "CITGO-CHAVEZ", HAVE STARTED TO
>CHANGE
>>>>>>>>THE NAME OF SOME OF THEIR STORES TO: "PETRO EXPRESS"
>>>>>>>>DO NOT BUY FROM "PETRO EXPRESS" EITHER!!! "PETRO EXPRESS" IS ALSO
>100%
>>>>
>>>>>>>>OWNED
>>>>>>>>BY "CHAVEZ."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>KEEP THIS MEMO GOING SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT IS HAPPENING.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>BOYCOTT "CITGO" AND "PETRO EXPRESS".............MAKE SURE THIS IS
>PASSED
>>>>>>>>ON TO EVERYONE in YOUR E-MAIL LIST IN THE UNITED STATES AND OUTSIDE
>>>OF
>>>>
>>>>>>>>AMERICA.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: The world, oil, Citgo and Petro Express! [message #85601 is a reply to message #85590] |
Tue, 29 May 2007 21:26 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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LaMont, your thinking is way off! You can't blame everything on Bush.
My Canadian friends have to come over here because the waiting list for things
like surgery or even test results are so long. It doesn't work there, and
it wont work here, if our government runs it. Our government mismanages
everything!!!!!!!! Yes there should be some kind of low cost or free healthcare.
It should only be for American citizens!
Social Security is a joke! The idiots in government keep robbing it to pay
for their pork programs. The first law should be that they can't touch it
because they never pay it back and it's our money! Second should be that
the people have a choice in how it's invested, it's our money!!! They should
have split programs where you can have it invested in different accounts
so that it's diversified.
The mentality that the government should take care of you is a bad one.
The free ride in this country is going to be over soon!!!!!!!!
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>You got it..
>Question; Do you think every american wants capitalism? or would they prefer
>free health care and social security???
>
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>So when they start killing and oppressing people as communist always do,
>will
>>that go a long with your Christen beliefs? I don't see how the two fit.
>>
>>Just because Chavez is a communist and wants a communist government doesn't
>>mean that the people want it. I think they are proving that by their protesting.
>> Oh yeah, I forgot, that's just the dictator Bush's CIA at work, not the
>>real people of Venezuela.
>>
>>
>>"LaMont" <jjppro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>I thought you were a Christian?
>>>
>>>I am.. God's order of Government is a Theocracy and of a Democracy. One
>>ruler
>>>system.. Not baiting..
>>>
>>>USA should be dictating policy over another country. If they want to be
>>comunist
>>>let them. That's my belife. That does not manke me anyless american..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>What's wrong wit Communism? I thought you were a Christian? Well anyways,
>>>>try freedom!!! When you rule your people with military force and take
>>their
>>>>freedoms away It's not a good thing. They will kill anybody that does
>>not
>>>>want to go along. He will stay rich while the people live in poverty,
>>that's
>>>>the Communist way. He is just another communist dictator. He want's
>to
>>>>arm Communist rebels all over south america. That's not good for anybody,
>>>>especially America. That will cause conflicts that a lot of people will
>>>>die in, possibly americans. The USA will not just stand by and watch
>south
>>>>america fall to communism.
>>>>
>>>>LaMont, I guess you are showing your true anti American colors. Or are
>>>you
>>>>just bating? Please clarify.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>same with tme. I had a 88 Izuzu I mark and filled it with some citgo
>gas/water
>>>>>and it killed my catalytic converter..
>>>>>
>>>>>It took a long time for me to buy Citgo gas . But, just because a country
>>>>>is communist, does that mean they are evil??
>>>>>Come on man. Take off the USA blinders..
>>>>>
>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>By the way, In 1995 I purchased a brand new Firebird. About a month
>>after
>>>>>>getting the car I got gas at a Citgo station. with in minutes of pulling
>>>>>>out, the engine ceased up. Towed it in to a dealer and found out I
>had
>>>>>bad
>>>>>>gas. I had the state of Michigan come out and test the gas. 71% was
>>>water,
>>>>>>about 8% was solid garbage, and the rest was gas. It took out all
of
>>>the
>>>>>>fuel injectors and the fuel pump. It did about $1700.00 in damage.
>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Citgo refused to take any responsibility for their product, and refused
>>>>>>to pay for the damage. They immediately told me that they were not
>responsible
>>>>>>for their product after it left their refinery. Apparently that was
>>their
>>>>>>standard response for anybody that called them about bad gas. It took
>>>>about
>>>>>>6 months to get it straitened out. The state of Michigan gave them
>a
>>>choice,
>>>>>>pay for the damages or pay a $25,000.00 fine. The arab gas station
>owner
>>>>>>had to pay for the damage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>My neighbor later told me that when that gas station would start running
>>>>>>out of gas he would see them put the garden hose down in to their tanks.
>>>>>> So I guess the owner deserved what he got. There were also many reports
>>>>>>on the news of people getting bad gas from Citgo stations all over
town.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Needless to say, I never buy gas at Citgo. What a PITA! If you want
>>>to
>>>>>>buy your gas from them that's up to you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>When possible I will avoid buying Communist made products. And yes
>I
>>>am
>>>>>>aware of where some of my favorite products are made. I don't like
>it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hugo Chavez is a hero. A man willing to sand up for his counry and
>not
>>>>>let
>>>>>>>a another country (USA) tell him how to run thier commodity.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>This is nothing more than tipical US spin machine out to sway puplic
>>>opinion
>>>>>>>about those leaders that don't drink the US Kool-Aid.. They (Venezuelans)
>>>>>>>don't need our aid. They have their own precious commodity.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Wake up people, are we to believe every word coming from our Goverment??
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks God for Citgo..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>This was a email I received.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Diane Sawyer on ABC news interviewed the Venezuelan leader Chavez
>just
>>>>>>last
>>>>>>>>week -- March 2007 He is so dangerous, and you can tell he is thrilled
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>be selling oil toAmerica and having a foot on the throat of this
country.
>>>>>>>>He is something else. If you did not hear the interview, the following
>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>discussed and it is true. They have all this money coming in and
the
>>>>majority
>>>>>>>>of his own people are living in poverty and he is so rich. He is
best
>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>friends with Castro and Russian leaders. He told Diane Sawyer that
>>he
>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>friends with all the world leaders, but President Bush is as dumb
>as
>>>>a
>>>>>>'donkey'.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>CITGO CHANGING NAME...this is serious Americans...make sure you read
>>>>..
>>>>>>>>NEWS FLASH: Chavez is NOW getting a Russian Weapons Factory built
>by
>>>>Putin.
>>>>>>>>The RUSSIANS are building an AK-47 Kalashnikov Assault Rifle factory
>>>>in
>>>>>>>Venezuela,
>>>>>>>>to give armament support to Communist Rebel groups throughout the
>Americas.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Chavez NOW has IRANIANS operating his oil refineries in Venezuela
>for
>>>>>him.
>>>>>>>>It is likely only a matter of time, if not already, before Chavez
>has
>>>>>Iranian
>>>>>>>>built LONG RANGE missiles, with a variety of warhead types aimed
at:
>>>>Guess
>>>>>>>>Who?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>CITGO is NOW in the process of Changing Its Name to PETRO EXPRESS
>due
>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>the loss of gasoline sales in the USA due to the recent publicity
>of
>>>>ownership
>>>>>>>>by Chavez of Venezuela.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Every dollar you spend with CITGO or PETRO EXPRESS gasoline will
be
>>>used
>>>>>>>>against you, your basic human rights, and your freedoms. He will
start
>>>>>>wars
>>>>>>>>here in the Americas that will probably be the death of millions
of
>>>free
>>>>>>>>people.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT because Chavez is starting to feel the loss
>>of
>>>>>revenue
>>>>>>>>from his holdings. HE OWNS CITGO. This is a very important move that
>>>>everyone
>>>>>>>>should be aware of.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>ANNOUNCED JUST RECENTLY, CITGO, BEING AWARE THAT SALES ARE DOWN DUE
>>>TO
>>>>>>U.S.
>>>>>>>>CUSTOMERS NOT WANTING TO BUY FROM "CITGO-CHAVEZ", HAVE STARTED TO
>CHANGE
>>>>>>>>THE NAME OF SOME OF THEIR STORES TO: "PETRO EXPRESS"
>>>>>>>>DO NOT BUY FROM "PETRO EXPRESS" EITHER!!! "PETRO EXPRESS" IS ALSO
>100%
>>>>>>OWNED
>>>>>>>>BY "CHAVEZ."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>KEEP THIS MEMO GOING SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT IS HAPPENING.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>BOYCOTT "CITGO" AND "PETRO EXPRESS".............MAKE SURE THIS IS
>PASSED
>>>>>>>>ON TO EVERYONE in YOUR E-MAIL LIST IN THE UNITED STATES AND OUTSIDE
>>>OF
>>>>>>AMERICA.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: The world, oil, Citgo and Petro Express! [message #85603 is a reply to message #85576] |
Tue, 29 May 2007 21:35 |
LaMont
Messages: 828
Registered: October 2005
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DC, i know his hard for you to believe, but there are many in this country
who are real americans and love this country that will no longer just Take
what spews out the war mongering propaganda machine call ed the Bush administration..
For that fact, it could be the Clinton administration.
Look.. Iraq has taught us that, trying to impose our will aka capitalism,
does not work. Not in the y2k
nor did it work in 70s. Counntries like Iraq like the Strong Man concept..
Now, back to Chavez. He is a hereo to millions of people. The only news you
get about chavez is on the 6:00 oclock news. Do some real research and you'll
be surprise about what you'd find out about this man.
Let's face it, you gotta have pretty big balls to take on the US ..
"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>
>LaMont, I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt here
>and assume good motives on your part.
>
>What concerns me is that you use the admission that Chavez
>is a dictator as simply another opportunity to blast Bush.
>
>This does NOT make your case against Bush stronger, it
>makes it weaker because you are not willing to stand against
>Chavez. It makes you seem like a dishonest lefty blowhard
>who hates his country so much that he will praise anyone
>who criticizes it, no matter how wretched they are.
>
>I prefer to think that is not the case.
>
>If it is, then:
>What makes you different from the anti-communist idiots
>who put us on the side of the mujahadeen against the
>russians in the Russian war in Afghanistan?
>
>Is the enemy of your enemy really your friend?
>
>
>Back in the 1970's after we left Vietnam, there was a
>humanitarian disaster as the victorious north took revenge
>on those who had opposed them in the south. There were
>thousands of "boat people" doing anything they could to
>escape torture and death and many died. Millions died in
>Cambodia as the new dictators pursued ideological purity.
>
>So, Joan Baez spoke out against the persecution of these
>"boat people" by the new communist leaders. She called
>fo peace and forgiveness in the new Vietnam.
>
>Guess what? She was blasted by Jane Fonda. When asked why,
>Jane responded that it was unacceptable to criticize a
>communist government! We on the left just don't DO that,
>don't you see?
>
>My point is that you have to be either Jane or Joan. You do
>NOT have to be a conservative to tell the truth about Chavez,
>and telling the truth about Chavez does not mean you have to
>like Bush.
>
>It simply means you have to be honest.
>
>
>
>DC
>
>
>
>
>"LaMont" <jjppro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>
>>So is Bush...
>>
>>
>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8PDFHC00&show_a rticle=1bu
>>>
>>>He's a dictator...
>>
>
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| Re: The world, oil, Citgo and Petro Express! [message #85604 is a reply to message #85596] |
Tue, 29 May 2007 21:42 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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You want to say it's racism, it's not, but since we are on the subject...
Since people are free to say what they want, is Whity the blue eyed devil
free to say the N word? Is that Ok? Or are there some lines you shouldn't
cross? Are you just pissed or can you actually see my point? I believe
there some things you just don't say!
By the way, the immigration point I was trying to make is, the middle class
is being killed off. It's not a race thing. The things you have work so
hard for will be given away. There won't be a middle class for you and I
to be part of! This could happen.
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>Please.. I'm not a communist, but this is the land of free. Free to workship
>any religion you see fit. Free to believe want you want. Free to say what
>you want.
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Yeah, like pissing on a crucifix and calling it freedom of speech. But
>when
>>it comes to a nativity seen or the ten commandments the greasy schmucks
>in
>>the ACLU are ready to sue. Where is the freedom of speech then?
>>
>>Yes it's anti American to say communism is Ok! And it disrespects those
>>who fought and died for your freedoms.
>>
>>"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>If we have none, and you can say anything you wish, then does being
>>>>an american mean anything?
>>>>
>>>>DC
>>>
>>>One thing it should always mean is that you can say what you think. Even
>>>if it is extremely critical of US policies. This is the most basic principle
>>>that this country was founded on.
>>>Try to remember what it is that you are so bent on defending. Basic American
>>>ideals. Like freedom of speech!
>>>Gene
>>>
>>
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| Re: The world, oil, Citgo and Petro Express! [message #85606 is a reply to message #85603] |
Tue, 29 May 2007 21:48 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>DC, i know his hard for you to believe, but there are many in this country
>who are real americans and love this country that will no longer just Take
>what spews out the war mongering propaganda machine call ed the Bush administration..
>For that fact, it could be the Clinton administration.
>
>Look.. Iraq has taught us that, trying to impose our will aka capitalism,
>does not work. Not in the y2k
>nor did it work in 70s. Counntries like Iraq like the Strong Man concept..
>
>
>Now, back to Chavez. He is a hereo to millions of people. The only news
you
>get about chavez is on the 6:00 oclock news. Do some real research and you'll
>be surprise about what you'd find out about this man.
>Let's face it, you gotta have pretty big balls to take on the US ..
Hey remember that if south america falls to communism and you get drafted.
>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>
>>LaMont, I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt here
>>and assume good motives on your part.
>>
>>What concerns me is that you use the admission that Chavez
>>is a dictator as simply another opportunity to blast Bush.
>>
>>This does NOT make your case against Bush stronger, it
>>makes it weaker because you are not willing to stand against
>>Chavez. It makes you seem like a dishonest lefty blowhard
>>who hates his country so much that he will praise anyone
>>who criticizes it, no matter how wretched they are.
>>
>>I prefer to think that is not the case.
>>
>>If it is, then:
>>What makes you different from the anti-communist idiots
>>who put us on the side of the mujahadeen against the
>>russians in the Russian war in Afghanistan?
>>
>>Is the enemy of your enemy really your friend?
>>
>>
>>Back in the 1970's after we left Vietnam, there was a
>>humanitarian disaster as the victorious north took revenge
>>on those who had opposed them in the south. There were
>>thousands of "boat people" doing anything they could to
>>escape torture and death and many died. Millions died in
>>Cambodia as the new dictators pursued ideological purity.
>>
>>So, Joan Baez spoke out against the persecution of these
>>"boat people" by the new communist leaders. She called
>>fo peace and forgiveness in the new Vietnam.
>>
>>Guess what? She was blasted by Jane Fonda. When asked why,
>>Jane responded that it was unacceptable to criticize a
>>communist government! We on the left just don't DO that,
>>don't you see?
>>
>>My point is that you have to be either Jane or Joan. You do
>>NOT have to be a conservative to tell the truth about Chavez,
>>and telling the truth about Chavez does not mean you have to
>>like Bush.
>>
>>It simply means you have to be honest.
>>
>>
>>
>>DC
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"LaMont" <jjppro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>So is Bush...
>>>
>>>
>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8PDFHC00&show_a rticle=1bu
>>>>
>>>>He's a dictator...
>>>
>>
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| Re: The world, oil, Citgo and Petro Express! [message #85609 is a reply to message #85603] |
Tue, 29 May 2007 21:56 |
dc[3]
Messages: 895
Registered: September 2005
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"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>DC, i know his hard for you to believe, but there are many in this country
>who are real americans and love this country that will no longer just Take
>what spews out the war mongering propaganda machine call ed the Bush administration..
And none of them call that scumbag piece of shit Chavez a hero.
You crossed the line.
>Now, back to Chavez. He is a hereo to millions of people. The only news
you
>get about chavez is on the 6:00 oclock news. Do some real research and you'll
>be surprise about what you'd find out about this man.
>Let's face it, you gotta have pretty big balls to take on the US ..
Ok, he is an anti-freedom, oppressor of free speech, Castro sycophant
with big balls.
I am impressed.
You can't say ANYTHING against him can you?
DC
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| Re: The world, oil, Citgo and Petro Express! [message #85616 is a reply to message #85597] |
Tue, 29 May 2007 23:35 |
gene lennon
Messages: 565
Registered: July 2006
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Common sense give the answer to this often asked question. If in doubt, ask
yourself how would the framers of our constitution come down on these issues,
my guess:
Can you say the president should be killed? Probably not, and any direct
threats against the president are illegal, but our country was born out of
a revolution against the current rulers. The men that wrote the constitution
did believe in keeping a close eye on our government and calling them on
it whenever they got a little too powerful.
Can you yell "fire"in a crowded theater? No
Can you point out when our leaders are ridiculously incompetent and possibly
breaking the law? Yes
Can you say out loud that you believe another form of government is just
as good or better then ours ABSOLUTLY?
Jefferson would be LOL.
Literally from Common Sense (Thomas Paine published 1776)
The prejudice of Englishmen, in favour of their own government, by King,
Lords and Commons, arises as much or more from national pride than reason.
Individuals are undoubtedly safer in England than in some other countries:
but the will of the king is as much the law of the land in Britain as in
France, with this difference, that instead of proceeding directly from his
mouth, it is handed to the people under the formidable shape of an act of
parliament. For the fate of Charles the First hath only made kings more subtle
not more just.
Wherefore, laying aside all national pride and prejudice in favour of modes
and forms, the plain truth is that IT IS WHOLLY OWING TO THE CONSTITUTION
OF THE PEOPLE, AND NOT TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE GOVERNMENT that the crown
is not as oppressive in England as in Turkey.
Gene
"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>
>"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>
>>One thing it should always mean is that you can say what you think. Even
>>if it is extremely critical of US policies. This is the most basic principle
>>that this country was founded on.
>>Try to remember what it is that you are so bent on defending. Basic American
>>ideals. Like freedom of speech!
>>Gene
>
>
>I'm with you... But where is the line? Can you say that I hope we lose
>
>a war? Can you say the president should be killed? Can you yell "fire"
>in a crowded theater? Can you incite to riot? Can you publish information
>that is likely to cause the death of US military personnel?
>
>It is so damn easy to be for "free speech" and so damn hard to admit
>that nothing is free...
>
>
>DC
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| Re: The world, oil, Citgo and Petro Express! [message #85617 is a reply to message #85616] |
Wed, 30 May 2007 02:05 |
rick
Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006
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amen. and while i may not agree with all of thier causes, i for one
am happy with than the aclu continues to exist on our behalf.
On 30 May 2007 16:35:18 +1000, "Gene Lennon"
<glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>
>Common sense give the answer to this often asked question. If in doubt, ask
>yourself how would the framers of our constitution come down on these issues,
>my guess:
>Can you say the president should be killed? Probably not, and any direct
>threats against the president are illegal, but our country was born out of
>a revolution against the current rulers. The men that wrote the constitution
>did believe in keeping a close eye on our government and calling them on
>it whenever they got a little too powerful.
>
>Can you yell "fire"in a crowded theater? No
>
>Can you point out when our leaders are ridiculously incompetent and possibly
>breaking the law? Yes
>Can you say out loud that you believe another form of government is just
>as good or better then ours ABSOLUTLY?
>
>Jefferson would be LOL.
>
>
> Literally from Common Sense (Thomas Paine published 1776)
>
>The prejudice of Englishmen, in favour of their own government, by King,
>Lords and Commons, arises as much or more from national pride than reason.
>Individuals are undoubtedly safer in England than in some other countries:
>but the will of the king is as much the law of the land in Britain as in
>France, with this difference, that instead of proceeding directly from his
>mouth, it is handed to the people under the formidable shape of an act of
>parliament. For the fate of Charles the First hath only made kings more subtle
> not more just.
>Wherefore, laying aside all national pride and prejudice in favour of modes
>and forms, the plain truth is that IT IS WHOLLY OWING TO THE CONSTITUTION
>OF THE PEOPLE, AND NOT TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE GOVERNMENT that the crown
>is not as oppressive in England as in Turkey.
>
>
>Gene
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>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
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>>"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
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>>>One thing it should always mean is that you can say what you think. Even
>>>if it is extremely critical of US policies. This is the most basic principle
>>>that this country was founded on.
>>>Try to remember what it is that you are so bent on defending. Basic American
>>>ideals. Like freedom of speech!
>>>Gene
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>>I'm with you... But where is the line? Can you say that I hope we lose
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>>a war? Can you say the president should be killed? Can you yell "fire"
>>in a crowded theater? Can you incite to riot? Can you publish information
>>that is likely to cause the death of US military personnel?
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>>It is so damn easy to be for "free speech" and so damn hard to admit
>>that nothing is free...
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>>DC
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