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| Re: digital stuff with Paris [message #59721 is a reply to message #59715] |
Sun, 30 October 2005 17:04   |
uptown jimmy
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many of the LDC's or even 57's can sound pretty abrasive with them, =
but these
High Gain amos can sound cool for sure, the ribbon may be just the =
trick.,I
know the 121s do ok for this, but I do think they sound at tad murky =
too.
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
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>Dale and Cujo,
>Heres what I can tell you about the 46Ls:
>
>I haven't any ribbons to AB them with. My experience with
>Beyer M-160s was less than stellar so I am certainly biased.
>The information I got from Jon at Shiny Box is that the Lundahls make =
=3D
>the
>mics more clear from top to bottom. I know John Macy is preferring =
the
=3D
>standard
>46s over his Royer 121s on e. gtrs. I am going to hammer
>them tonight with some crunch guitars for yours and my benefit.
>I'll A-B them with a 57, 421 414 so you have some basis for my
>comments. I'll gain match too using the same pre.
>
>Maybe I'll post a short mp3 too. It's so subjective with all the =3D
>variables.
>I'll give you my gut feeling though.
>Tom
>
> "cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote in message =3D
>news:4365146f$1@linux...
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> I saw a pair of the SE ribbons at a dealer.=3D20
> They do look really well constructed, and I guess they are supposed =
to
=3D
>be
> a tad more airy than the Royer. They aint super cheap though as are =
=3D
>the shiny..
> I really do want to know about the diff in the tranny of the Shiny =
box
=3D
>mics,
> I am thinking a pair of these may fit the bill as room mics. Of =
course
=3D
>you
> afiten get what you pay for
> I also want to know how they sound on a crunchy master gain =
marshall.
>
> I heard a clip of DJ's gemini in action, how does the 5000 compare?
>
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> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >I can't wait to give one of these SE ribbons a try. I'm very =3D
>impressed with
> >the SE stuff. We just used a matched pair of SE3's on some guitar =
=3D
>overdubs.
> >We compared them to a matched pair of Neumann KM 184's and a pair =
of
=3D
>AKG
> >C460B's before we committed to them. The SE3's sound great. I =
think
=3D
>this
> >company is hitting some home runs with some high quality products =
at
=3D
>very
> >good prices.
> >
> >Deej
> >
> >"Dale" <dalebradleycello@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:4364187c$1@linux...
> >>
> >> A buncha questions about these "ShinyBox" mics I hear tell =
of....
> >>
> >> So how does the ShinyBox sound compared with Beyer M160 & Royer =
=3D
>(both
> of
> >> which I have used)? Does a $310 mic (46L) really outperform a =
=3D
>Royer?!?
> >>
> >> I just scanned the shinybox.com, but didn't see much description =
of
=3D
>the
> >practical
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| Re: digital stuff with Paris [message #59726 is a reply to message #59715] |
Sun, 30 October 2005 17:56 |
uptown jimmy
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ity outboard equipment, not on any level, and that's putting it
> >very politely. I am shocked that companies like Waves make any money at
> all
> >selling those kinds of products.
> >
> >Paris is amazing, but I use it's EQ sparingly at most. Ulitmately, for
me,
> >it's a glorified tape machine with an awesome built-in editing
capability,
> >plus some well-documented gain-staging "tips and tricks" that sound
simply
> >delicious.
> >
> >Jimmy
> >
> >
> >"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
> >news:43652386$1@linux...
> >> I've found with software less is almost always more. I went through my
> >plug
> >> in craze phase.. ironically, I suspect phase and calculations are what
> >> muddied up the mix. I know that we as an industry are in trouble when
> >every
> >> year, or less, we have to evaluate our tools and think we need
something
> >> new. I'm all down with improvement, but if things are growing 'that'
> >fast,
> >> then maybe we should have a look at what are we really using to begin
> >with.
> >> Change can't generally happen that quickly and be for the long term
good.
> >> Computers are a funny beast man.
> >> AA
> >>
> >> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> >> news:43651390@linux...
> >> > Ya know............Im sitting here listening to some *roughs* of a
> >> > tracking
> >> > session I did Friday night. No compression, a very tiny bit of
> >subtractive
> >> > EQ, a tiny touch of NoLimit on the mix bus. That's it. The rest of
the
> >> > story
> >> > is using the Paris EQ makeup gain and the fader gain stages to get
the
> >> > *mixphat thing going*.
> >> >
> >> > I swear guys.......this sounds better to my ears than all of the
> >1,000,000
> >> > gobazzillion plugin options I have available when using the SX rig
> >during
> >> > mixdown.
> >> >
> >> > It's pretty minimalist stuff to begin with......acoustic rythym
guitar,
> >> > acoustic lead guitar, fiddle, electric bass and acoustic drum
> >> > kit........but
> >> > that seems to be all I do these days anyway.
> >> >
> >> > Sometimes less is truly more.
> >> >
> >> > Deej
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>Can I use Wormhole with a standalone VST rack of some sort to route audio
>from a Paris insert or aux, though the VST rack and then return it to
>Paris..........with 40ms latency?? I will want to use my 4 x UAD-1 cards
in
>the VST Rack and I will need low enough latency in Paris that I can keep
my
>tracks in Paris and use the Paris mix automation without problem. I think
I
>saw Dimitrios post here that he had achieved somewhere around 40ms latency
>using the FXPansion VST/DX wrapper? Not sure why he would need this if the
>UAD-1 cards are in another machine...........but anyway........can this
be
>done somehow? If it involves using Cubase SX.........well, I've already
got
>that happening with no latency as long as all tracks are being played back
>in SX. I need the tracks to
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| Re: digital stuff with Paris [message #59731 is a reply to message #59726] |
Sun, 30 October 2005 19:16 |
Deej [1]
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> > MECs and then afterwards boot Paris from a desktop shortcut to the
> > > defaultproject.ppj that you created and saved in the Emu directory.
> > >
> > > You gotta' jump through a number of hoops and then it's not always
> > reliable.
> > > I always boot up my system at least two hours before a session to get
it
> > > stabilized before the talent shows up.
> > >
> > > If you have done all of the above things and you're still not getting
> the
> > > other MECs to clok to WC, launch your defaultproject.ppj and then
toggle
> > the
> > > sync source to internal. Let it sit until it quits popping and
> > > fussing........then toggle it back to WC and let it pop and fuss until
> it
> > > settles down. You can usually tell when it's locked up because you
will
> > hear
> > > a loud pop, then it stabilized. this can sometimes take 5-10 seconds
to
> > > happen.
> > >
> > > Dontcha' just love Paris?
> > >
> > > ;o)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> > > news:43654494@linux...
> > > > Howdy.
> > > >
> > > > I'm in the process of getting my Paris rig patched digitally to my
> > > Kurzweil
> > > > FX boxes via an MAudio Digipatch.
> > > >
> > > > As far as I am able to tell, I have everything physically patched
> > > properly.
> > > > As a matter of fact, I get word-clock lock on both Kurzweil boxes
from
> > my
> > > > Lucid master clock (via the SPDIF ins and outs on Paris), and the
> first
> > FX
> > > > box sends and receives audio data seamlessly, at least on
submix1/MEC1
> > via
> > > > an aux send set to "external".
> > > >
> > > > I am not, however, having any luck after that. No other Digipatch
> > > "patches"
> > > > seem to work, whether it's simultaneously patching the 2nd FX box to
> > > > submix2/MEC2, or switching the 1st FX box to another submix/MEC.
> > > >
> > > > I have a three-card, three-MEC system, and thought I has sussed out
> the
> > > > layout of my physical cabling pretty well. Is there something I
don't
> > > > understand about the Paris aux modules? I was under the impression
> that
> > > each
> > > > submix had its own complement of 8 aux modules, independently of the
> > other
> > > > submixes...I'm probably being stupid somehow...
> > > >
> > > > Confused,
> > > > Jimmy
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>thanks for the pointer. i've yet to find the one that was on the
Ensoniq site which gave a step by step for using the aux sends to
create a headphone mix, but i'll keep looking.
thanks again.
jon
On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 19:05:02 -0400, John <no@no.com> wrote:
>www.kfocus.com/paris
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>Look under Paris, _Setup, Queue Mixes
>
>jon chaikin wrote:
>> i used to have a tutorial that showed how to setup a headphone mix
>> using the external effects system. does anyone still have a copy?
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> jon"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>Ya know............Im sitting here listening to some *roughs* of a tracking
>session I did Friday night. No compression, a very tiny bit of subtractive
>EQ, a tiny touch of NoLimit on the mix bus. That's it. The rest of the story
>is using the Paris EQ makeup gain and the fader gain stages to get the
>*mixphat thing going*.
>
>I swear guys.......this sounds better to my ears than all of the 1,000,000
>gobazzillion plugin options I have available when using the SX rig during
>mixdown.
>
>It's pretty minimalist stuff to begin with......acoustic rythym guitar,
>acoustic lead guitar, fiddle, electric bass and acoustic drum kit........but
>that seems to be all I do these days anyway.
>
>Sometimes less is truly more.
>
>Deej
>
Good hardware kills almost all software, but if you have not worked with
Weiss or Algorithmix software (I own neither), you are not judging based
on the best available options.
Others like the GML eq plugin are also quite good. I don’t mind using plugins
if I am intentionally shaping a sound, but I certainly agree that if you
want to maintain maximum realism and fidelity you should stick with GOOD
hardware. Even when using hardware, less is more if you are looking for classic
hi-fi recordings.
Nothing really new here. This discussion has been going on since the beginning
of digital recording. The only thing that has changes is that moderate priced
plugin options have gotten considerably better in the last few years.
G
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| Re: digital stuff with Paris [message #59732 is a reply to message #59731] |
Sun, 30 October 2005 19:25 |
uptown jimmy
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ive me a real Pultech anytime.
GeneI'm sure this is the second post you've made to this effect.
I think life is trying to tell you something. ;o)
Cheers,
Kim.
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>Ya know............Im sitting here listening to some *roughs* of a tracking
>session I did Friday night. No compression, a very tiny bit of subtractive
>EQ, a tiny touch of NoLimit on the mix bus. That's it. The rest of the story
>is using the Paris EQ makeup gain and the fader gain stages to get the
>*mixphat thing going*.
>
>I swear guys.......this sounds better to my ears than all of the 1,000,000
>gobazzillion plugin options I have available when using the SX rig during
>mixdown.
>
>It's pretty minimalist stuff to begin with......acoustic rythym guitar,
>acoustic lead guitar, fiddle, electric bass and acoustic drum kit........but
>that seems to be all I do these days anyway.
>
>Sometimes less is truly more.
>
>Deej
>
>Geno... I think that is WAAY too complex for my feeble mind - I
don't even know what you're referring to in terms of
networkware, etc.
Need to get in front of the power curve, apparently.
Neil
gene lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
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>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OU.com> wrote:
>>OK then.... so how would I route it hard-
>>connection-wise... USB? Firewire?
>>
>>Neil
>>
>
>It works over your network connection – TCPIP. As long as you don’t have
>a software firewall blocking internal computer-to-computer traffic, it should
>work fine. You do need to run basic Windows or Macintosh networking and
have
>both computers on the network.
>
>I run a complex setup where multiple windows PCs and Macs all communicate
>with each other using a combination of ADAT, SPDIF and analog interconnections
>plus Wormhole interconnections, but WormHole works fine in a simple two
computer
>setup.
>
>WormHole has two basic operational modes:
>1. You send from computer A (from a VST insert) to computer B (to a VST
insert).
>This is the mode you would use to send tracks from a computer running a
program
>like Cubase to a second computer running Paris as a summing bus.
>2. Your WormHole insert sends to, and returns from a second computer.
>In this mode WormHole is inserting a loop that allows you to go to a second
>computer, pick up something like a convolution reverb, and return it to
the
>same channel as if it was a local effect. This is just like the Waves hardware
>boxes work. In this mode WormHole can use ADC if the host supports it.
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>Geno... I think that is WAAY too complex for my feeble mind - I
>don't even know what you're referring to in terms of
>networkware, etc.
>
>Need to get in front of the power curve, apparently.
>
>Neil
>
Now Wait Just a Damn Minute!
My mind is just as feeble as the next guy.
I may be over-explaining.> By the way, who came up with all this methodology?
Well.........I cobbled mine together with the advice of others, like Gene
Lennon, John Macy, Brian T, Aaron, Mic Cross, Cory Bonnett and others who
had built the larger rigs. The clock is the starting point to go beyond 2 x
MECs. then it's just a matter of what you have and what you want to do with
it. It really is simple once you've got your templates set up.
;o)
"uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:43658fa7@linux...
> I would sag to my knees and cry like a little bitch just to be asked to
> begin to understand a system like that. I'm a life-long bookish
> intellectual, but I always shied away from things of a more mathematical
or
> technical nature. I can get the math stuff if I try, but it takes a mighty
> effort to overcome the fear and loathing.
>
> Things are absolutely solid here: so far, so good. It sounds absolutely
> fantastic. SOOOOO easy just to push a switch and re-do the whole
> configuration between 3 MECs and 2 FX boxes.
>
> You know what this calls for, right?
>
> More FX boxes! Yay!
>
> By the way, who came up with all this methodology? It's mond-boggling. I
> would be dead in the water without the help of this NG (a lot of "The
Deej"
> recently, please don't jump ship, dooood....)
>
> Jimmy
>
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:43658d5e@linux...
> > Jimmy.........you may not have any problems at all. I posted a word.doc
of
> > my routing matrix in another post here earlier. I've got a *very*
> > complicated system here. There is a certain boot sequence that I use
that
> is
> > fairly reliable, but not always. Sometimes, if the system won't lock up,
I
> > have to just shut things down and start over. A major factor in this
> > clocking tr4ain wreck is having over 60 digital I/O's interfacing
between
> > the two DAWs and other digital gear. One wimpy handshake and the whole
> think
> > can go south. It's a huge bunch of variables , a pair of Digipatch units
> and
> > routing of digital I/O of outboard units using various format converters
> to
> > get everything happy and the spdif I/O of Paris and RME HDSP units as
> > additional patchbays. Endless possibilities for trouble. I must say
> > though........when it's up and running it's an awesome beast.
> >
> > "uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> > news:43657ac9@linux...
> > > I put the Digipatch software on the back burner in order to try the
rest
> > of
> > > your suggestions first.
> > >
> > > I'll be damned if it didn't work.
> > >
> > > Doug, you're a peach. My feeling of victory was electric. Such an easy
> > > 15-minute fix.
> > >
> > > What sort of dodginess should I expect? You spoke of unreliability...
> > >
> > > Jimmy
> > >
> > > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> > > ne
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| Re: digital stuff with Paris [message #59738 is a reply to message #59732] |
Sun, 30 October 2005 20:42 |
Deej [1]
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@animas.net> wrote:
> >Ya know............Im sitting here listening to some *roughs* of a
tracking
> >session I did Friday night. No compression, a very tiny bit of
subtractive
> >EQ, a tiny touch of NoLimit on the mix bus. That's it. The rest of the
story
> >is using the Paris EQ makeup gain and the fader gain stages to get the
> >*mixphat thing going*.
> >
> >I swear guys.......this sounds better to my ears than all of the
1,000,000
> >gobazzillion plugin options I have available when using the SX rig during
> >mixdown.
> >
> >It's pretty minimalist stuff to begin with......acoustic rythym guitar,
> >acoustic lead guitar, fiddle, electric bass and acoustic drum
kit........but
> >that seems to be all I do these days anyway.
> >
> >Sometimes less is truly more.
> >
> >Deej
> >
> >
>Pour Grammor!!!!!????? Me???
My Ass!!!!
I graduate top onners at me scoool !!!!
"EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
news:4363adea@linux...
> That's a problem with an international forum... subtleties get lost in
> translation. Yes, Rick WAS joking at Brandon's poor grammar! :-)
>
> David.
>
> TC wrote:
> > Hey Dimitrios,
> >
> > I think he was joking, it was a pun at Brandon's wording of "I will buy
> > Dimitrios"
> >
> > Meaning he will purchase you, Dimitrios, with cash money, not anything
> > to do with wormhole..
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > TC
> >
> > Dimitrios wrote:
> >
> >> Dear Rick,
> >> I am really dissapointed in your post.
> >> If you don't care buying thats ok but saying that it is slavery to buy
> >> something
> >> that is so innovative for Paris and not only and considering the som
many
> >> hours spent to make things smooth for Paris and wormhole as much as
> >> possible
> >> without me being involved at all in the sales of this plugin that
really
> >> makes me feel sad.
> >> I was hoping that you at least would appreciatte all the efoorts here
and
> >> that wouild be supporting those nice and cheap plugins that help Paris
..
> >> I see people here payinmg 250 $ for a single adat card so for 3 adat
> >> cards
> >> 750 $.
> >> plus a Mec 150$ almost a 1000 $ to just have 24 adat 20 bit tracks
> >> from one
> >> PC to another.
> >> Now a simple plugin lets you have 24 bit (or 32bit floating until you
use
> >> Paris dsp ) of 24 audio tracks for a normal 2600 Ghz cpu.
> >> So if you think that I am giving you guys a hard time then sorry I
> >> will stop
> >> what I am doing these last months.
> >> thanks to all of you anyway.
> >> Regards,
> >> Dimitrios
> >>
> >> rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> "i will buy Dimitrios"...dude...that's slavery...even in a non pc
> >>> correct society.
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 07:32:03 -0500, "Brandon"
> >>> <brandon_goodwin@REMOVETHISsbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> i will buy Dimitrios.
> >>>> brandon
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message
> >>>> news:4361ea71$1@linux...
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hello to everyone.
> >>>>> After my last conversation with Adrian -wormhole's author- I have
> >>>>> concluded
> >>>>> that wormhole is not selling well ( where are we guys ?) so maybe
> >>>>> major
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>>> updates
> >>>>> will get longer to support as he has to concentrate his efforts to
> >>>>> "selling"
> >>>>> appz.
> >>>>> I wonder how we Parisians expect plugin authors like Adrian to
support
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>>> plugins
> >>>>> like wormhole which are a godsend for Paris with tremendous present
> >>>>> and
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>>> future
> >>>>> possibilities... (he is thinking of making wormhole lighter so to
have
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>>> even
> >>>>> more instances).
> >>>>> I don't see us people here supporting wormhole and that makes me sad
> >>
> >>
> >> and
> >>
> >>>>> maybe all my efforts toward this direction will fail somehow.
> >>>>> If we don't buy it how can we ask him for this and that ?
> >>>>> Even two or three buys would not justify major -Paris oriented-
> >>>>> updates
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>>> with
> >>>>> wormhole...
> >>>>> Please sign here if you care for using wormhole even as two channel
> >>>>> cross
> >>>>> bridge beetween two computers (NOTE IT CAN BE USED ON SAME COMPUTER
> >>>>> WITH
> >>>>> DIFFERENT APPZ TOO).
> >>>>> If we sign enouph people here (enouph depends I would say 10 and
over
> >>
> >>
> >> I
> >>
> >>>>> will
> >>>>> kindly ask for a small discount for mass purchase.
> >>>>> Please try wormhole and see for yourself how great this plugin is.
> >>>>> We need Adrian (convince him make appz suited to Paris) and we
> >>>>> certainly
> >>>>> need wormhole.
> >>>>> It will keep Paris alive for things to come no matter where audio
> >>>>> technology
> >>>>> will go.
> >>>>> You will always have Paris thus connected with modern pc's doing
what
> >>
> >>
> >> it
> >>
> >>>>> is known to do best, sounding good when summing...
> >>>>> Please forgive me if I am being so pushy with this but noone else
> >>>>> except
> >>>>> for Adrian (till now) has showed so much interest to help us ,Paris
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>>> users.
> >>>>> I wanna convince him make an automatic LATENCY compensator for VST
> >>>>> plugins
> >>>>> which I think would be great if succeeded.
> >>>>> Believe me if only two-three Paris users will sign this I will be
> >>>>> having
> >>>>> no guts to ask him that or anything else.
> >>>>> This plugin sells for 49 $ only...
> >>>>> Please respond with signing also.
> >>>>> With regards,
> >>>>> Dimitrios
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>It was trial and error, step by step....
Rock-solid evening of music. Thanks for the help.
I wish I could offer a fraction of the help I have received here over the
years. It's a silly thing to think I could.
Jimmy
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:4365a17d@linux...
> > By t
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| Re: digital stuff with Paris [message #59741 is a reply to message #59738] |
Sun, 30 October 2005 21:43 |
uptown jimmy
Messages: 441
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> > > > each
> > > > > > submix had its own complement of 8 aux modules, independently of
> the
> > > > other
> > > > > > submixes...I'm probably being stupid somehow...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Confused,
> > > > > > Jimmy
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>Hey Dimitrios! Thanks for the reply, and all your work. You are a great
asset to this news group. I'm on Mac OS 9 with Paris, so I don't think that
Wormhole will work for me at this time: ( In the future I will be buying
it though.
Thanks again!
James
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>
>Hi,
>First of all sorry to Rick and the rest of you.
>I didn't catch it was a joke despite Mel Brooks is my favoured comedian
and
>I catch all his jokes (I guess)
>Secondly.
>You need ONLY Fxpansion 3.3 to have wormhole work with Paris.
>No multifxvst, this is for UAD1 lowest latency possible...
>YES it works with Mac and here is a list of working OS
>
>
> List of working hosts - 2005/06/23 10:41
>This is a list of VST/AU hosts which are known to work with plasq.com -
Wormhole2.
>(sync ok) means the respective hosts feeds accurate sample position information
>to WH2 thus making the sync feature usable in that host.
>
>Mac OS X
>
>(- OSX 10.3)
>(- OSX 10.4)
>
>- Logic 6 / Logic 7 / Logic 7.1 (sync ok)
>- Garageband (sync ok)
>- RAX (sync ok)
>- AULab (sync ok)
>- Spark XL (sync not working)
>- DP 4.5.2 (sync ok)
>- Live 4 (sync half-ok, only works during playback and if there are no tempo
>changes due to a bad implementation of samplepos in live)
>- Cubase SX1 (sync ok)
>- Nicecast
>- Waveburner
>- Nuendo 2 (sync ok)
>- Plogue Bidule (sync ok)
>
>Win
>
>- Windows XP
>
>- Cubase VST 5 (sync ok)
>- VSTHost (sync ok)
>- Ableton Live 4 (sync half-ok, same problems as on mac)
>- Samplitude 8.0 on Win 2K (sync ok)
>- Sound Forge 8 (sync not working)
>- VStack
>- Chainer (sync ok)
>
>So for anyone interested wormhole's site is
>www.plasq.com
>There is a great forum in there to read posts about wormhole.
>Latency is dependant on your buffer sizes and your host sending latencyWell one thing that would be cool, is if we had a DX or VST to Paris plugin
wrapper. Has any one posed the question to Doug W. and Chuck to see if such
a thing could be made? There are wrappers out there for every other plug
in Architecture, why not Paris.
There I go again, Barking up the wrong tree. Or was that skirt, I can't
remember; )
JamesPardon me for thinking out the backside again, but what about a script/macro,
that would automatically set latency compensation for a specific plugin?
Would it be possible?
You could write one for every different plugin. Just hit a couple of shortcut
keys and bam!
Well of corse I don't know what the hell I'm talking about!
James
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>If I could just get automatic delay compensation in Paris, I'd ditch the
>monster SX rig in a heartbeat and just keep the Multiface for it's
>converters and for streaming a few VSTi's over one lightpipe connection.
>That's all I'd really need.
>
>Futzing around with the slip'n slide thing during a mix is what drives me
>nuts.
>
>;o)
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:436594a2$1@linux...
>>
>>
>> I'm sure this is the second post you've made to this effect.
>>
>> I think life is trying to tell you something. ;o)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>>
>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> >Ya know............Im sitting here listening to some *roughs* of a
>tracking
>> >session I did Friday night. No compression, a very tiny bit of
>subtractive
>> >EQ, a tiny touch of NoLimit on the mix bus. That's it. The rest of the
>story
>> >is using the Paris EQ makeup gain and the fader gain stages to get the
>> >*mixphat thing going*.
>> >
>> >I swear guys.......this sounds better to my ears than all of the
>1,000,000
>> >gobazzillion plugin options I have available when using the SX rig during
>> >mixdown.
>> >
>> >It's pretty minimalist stuff to begin with......acoustic rythym guitar,
>> >acoustic lead guitar, fiddle, electric bass and acoustic drum
>kit........but
>> >that seems to be all I do these days anyway.
>> >
>> >Sometimes less is truly more.
>> >
>> >Deej
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>"DC" <dc@spamavid.com> wrote:
>It's the most amazing thing to live in a world where someone is
>so clearly and unmistakably *missing*.
>
>You know what I mean?
>
>DC
Yes.
Sorry about your sister.
GeneJames, grab the demo.. it has a VST DLL in it, oughta to be worth a spin to
see if it flies or not.
AA
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4365b3d4$1@linux...
>
> Hey Dimitrios! Thanks for the reply, and all your work. You are a great
> asset to this news group. I'm on Mac OS 9 with Paris, so I don't think
> that
> Wormhole will work for me at this time: ( In the future I will be buying
> it though.
>
> Thanks again!
>
> James
>
>
> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>
>>Hi,
>>First of all sorry to Rick and the rest of you.
>>I didn't catch it was a joke despite Mel Brooks is my favoured comedian
> and
>>I catch all his jokes (I guess)
>>Secondly.
>>You need ONLY Fxpansion 3.3 to have wormhole work with Paris.
>>No multifxvst, this is for UAD1 lowest latency possible...
>>YES it works with Mac and here is a list of working OS
>>
>>
>> List of working hosts - 2005/06/23 10:41
>>This is a list of VST/AU hosts which are known to work with plasq.com -
> Wormhole2.
>>(sync ok) means the respective hosts feeds accurate sample position
>>information
>>to WH2 thus making the sync feature usable in that host.
>>
>>Mac OS X
>>
>>(- OSX 10.3)
>>(- OSX 10.4)
>>
>>- Logic 6 / Logic 7 / Logic 7.1 (sync ok)
>>- Garageband (sync ok)
>>- RAX (sync ok)
>>- AULab (sync ok)
>>- Spark XL (sync not working)
>>- DP 4.5.2 (sync ok)
>>- Live 4 (sync half-ok, only works during playback and if there are no
>>tempo
>>changes due to a bad implementation of samplepos in live)
>>- Cubase SX1 (sync ok)
>>- Nicecast
>>- Waveburner
>>- Nuendo 2 (sync ok)
>>- Plogue Bidule (sync ok)
>>
>>Win
>>
>>- Windows XP
>>
>>- Cubase VST 5 (sync ok)
>>- VSTHost (sync ok)
>>- Ableton Live 4 (sync half-ok, same problems as on mac)
>>- Samplitude 8.0 on Win 2K (sync ok)
>>- Sound Forge 8 (sync not working)
>>- VStack
>>- Chainer (sync ok)
>>
>>So for anyone interested wormhole's site is
>>www.plasq.com
>>There is a great forum in there to read posts about wormhole.
>>Latency is dependant on your buffer sizes and your host sending latencyIt's interesting, the minimal amount of equipment used.
I mentioned the free LMC-1 compressor plugin from SSL before, here's the
link:
http://www.solid-state-logic.com/resources/lmc1plugin.html
Here's the article about Phil Collins drum sound.
http://mixonline.com/mag/audio_phil_collins_air/index.html
James"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>Futzing around with the slip'n slide thing during a mix is what drives me
>nuts.
Yeh well I can understand that. It's sure a pain in the...
....and I don't suppose there's much hope that that will go away with Paris
alone.
Cheers,
Kim.I'm not sure how you'd go altering a latency comp plug with a macro, but
if you could do that, then you might just be on a winner there.
Anyone?
Cheers,
Kim.
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Pardon me for thinking out the backside again, but what about a script/macro,
>that would automatically set latency comp
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