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| Re: Emergency! (thought of one more thing to add) [message #57057 is a reply to message #57051] |
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red lines are Midi lines (the midi foot controller which controls
various items). The black is audio... for simplicity ;o) the effects loops,
which go to the three items in the bottom right, are drawn as just a one
way black wire, when in fact there will be a send and return.
So the three keyboards on the left, along with a mic and a theramin, will
all go in to the first Akai Router. I call that the instrument router.
The second ro
Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com
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| Re: Emergency! (thought of one more thing to add) [message #57059 is a reply to message #57051] |
Thu, 18 August 2005 22:08 |
Tom Bruhl
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
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The instrument router then, basically, sends three signals to the effects
router. One signal has a mix of everything which I want to go clean to the
PA. Signal Two has a mix of everything I want to go to effects loop 1. Signal
Three has a mix of everything which I want going to effects loop 2.
There are only two effects loop feeds which run between the routers, despite
being three actual effects loops, because:
1) I'm short on ins and outs on the routers
2) Often the pedals and Quadraverb will be hooked into a single effects loop
meaning only two loops.
3) I can only play two things at once anyhow.
4) If I do desperately, for a special reason, absolutely require a setting
where I access all three effects loops, I can always make the normal "Clean
to the PA" signal go to one of the effects loops... I mean there's no actual
reason the three signals which the instrument router sends to the effects
router actually have to be PA, Effects 1 and effects 2. Really they're just
three sends...
The guitar, for simplicity ;o), will just go straight into the GNX4, which
of course will go back in to the effects router which in turn will send it
on to the PA.
Now, having gone through all that, the critical thing to understand is that
the GNX-4 (centre right) is not just an effects unit, but also doubles as
the looper/recorder, allowing me to record my parts and play along with them.
Hence a lot of the time, if I want to use the pedals on a keyboard, they
will go through the pedal effects loop, and THEN in to the GNX-4, not for
effects, but to be recorded, so that I can then play along with that part
8 bars later... this is also why I really want such a complex setup...
so that I can route effects on and off various instruments as I please for
recording... and route things into, or not into, the recorder. Indeed a
lot of the time things will be routed to more than one effects loop for exactly
that reason.
Anyhow, I'll stop talking about it and let you have a look at the picture,
scratch your head, and suss it out.
In theory, I guess, I could redesign my plan for the second router, so that
the effects returns DON'T come back to the router, but instead go straight
to the PA. That way I would have recording access to the outputs to all three
effects loops (including the recorder/looper) as well as the clean direct
to PA signal. That would probably be enough to give me some flexability in
mixdown.
Dunno. What do you think?
Cheers,
Kim.
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