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OT, How good is VOIP!?! [message #60389] Fri, 18 November 2005 02:14 Go to next message
Kim is currently offline  Kim
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here. Still, it would be a bit cheaper than
my local service for the two lines I've got here. I have two land lines and
two mobile accounts. Once they get it sussed for mobile phones, I will be
able to shuffle things around to use the one DSL line for the house and the
mobile for my office and I will likely save about $200.00 per month.

That will RAWK ;o)

"Michael Broyles" <mbroyles@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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Re: OT, How good is VOIP!?! [message #60392 is a reply to message #60389] Fri, 18 November 2005 07:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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of delays and bad
> quality.
> > But it sounds like you like it! Thanks
> >
> >
> >"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>Just got it set up. Strangely, due to a bungle in the account of my
previous
> >>house, my phone got cut off...
> >>
> >>...but not really, because just half an hour earlier I'd punched in the
> >>config for the VOIP! I still had a phone where I could call everyone and
> >>pay the bills to get the phone reconnected! :o)
> >>
> >>I haven't been able to notice any quality difference at all as of yet,
> but
> >>I am using the world's cheapest worst quality wireless handset to do the
> >>tests. ;o)
Re: OT, How good is VOIP!?! [message #60393 is a reply to message #60389] Fri, 18 November 2005 06:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
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Still, the fact that the delay isn't noticable is a start.
> >>
> >>I'm stoked! :o)
> >>
> >>Cheers,
> >>Kim.
> >
>Hi,
I lost all my Paris skins from accidental erase !
Anyone has gothered them ?
I am looking mostly for the balck ones (not with the yellow,purple leds etc)
But I could use all.
Regards,
DimitriosI fired up an older Windows ME PC and decided to upgrade Soundforge on it,
which requires Directx 8. I had effects before that.. now all I have are
two selections..

NO EFFECT
EXTERNAL

can anyone help.. of course..I have a remote session tomorrow that I use
this pc for..

thanks
nickHave you tried re-installing Paris? Back-up your effects files first
or you will lose your presets. Remember to re-boot after each step.

David.

nick wrote:

> I fired up an older Windows ME PC and decided to upgrade Soundforge on it,
> which
Re: OT, How good is VOIP!?! [message #60394 is a reply to message #60389] Fri, 18 November 2005 07:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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requires Directx 8. I had effects before that.. now all I have are
> two selections..
>
> NO EFFECT
> EXTERNAL
>
> can anyone help.. of course..I have a remote session tomorrow that I use
> this pc for..
>
> thanks
> nick
>I'm thinking about picking up a 200gb Seagate Hard Drive mainly because the
warranty is so much longer than the other brands (5 years). Any experience
with these.

BarryI spoke to Erling on it a few months back too with same deal. I understand
he gets a bunch of free overseas minutes every month. My plan on the other
hand costs $1.72 or something to call the U.S. or U.K. for an hour... hardly
going to break the bank. ;o)

Cheers,
Kim.

"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>I talked to Erling on VOIP a few months ago. The signal was strong and clear
Re: OT, How good is VOIP!?! [message #60395 is a reply to message #60393] Fri, 18 November 2005 07:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>with no problematidc latency between Colorado and Norway.
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:437d9b90$1@linux...
>>
>>
>> Just got it set up. Strangely, due to a bungle in the account of my
>previous
>> house, my phone got cut off...
>>
>> ...but not really, because just half an hour earlier I'd punched in the
>> config for the VOIP! I still had a phone where I could call everyone and
>> pay the bills to get the phone reconnected! :o)
>>
>> I haven't been able to notice any quality difference at all as of yet,
but
>> I am using the world's cheapest worst quality wireless handset to do the
>> tests. ;o) Still, the fact that the delay isn't noticable is a start.
>>
>> I'm stoked! :o)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>
>If he's using external sound modules, he needs to route the audio from the
module to an input on his sound card, then enable an audio track in Cakewalk
to record it.
If he's using the internal sound card for audio, there are shareware
programs that will capture the audio at the sound card output and convert it
to WAV.
There may be better solutions, but those are the first two that pop into my
mind.

David


On 17-Nov-2005, "cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote:

> hey I think you are on to the situation.
> They are midi files he needs to send me as audio. How do you record them
> back as audio tracks? is there a patch bay type of thing? Sorry bout all
> these questions. This guys seems a bit intimidated by the software and
> just
> wants to "make beats"
&g
Re: OT, How good is VOIP!?! [message #60396 is a reply to message #60394] Fri, 18 November 2005 08:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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t; Thanks to both of you.This is about the same time you started on that nasty conservative bent also
isn't it? ;>) Maybe shock treatment is a legitimate cure for liberalism?
Makes you think, huh? ;>)

Disclaimer: The above comments were made purely in jest. I love you all,
conservative, liberal, or a little of both.

Tony



"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:437d4148$1@linux...
>I got the hot lips treatment back around 1966 in a rehearsal session.
> Knocked my ass halfway across the room. I haven't been the same since. It
> ranks right up there on the paranoia meter with a head on collision I was
> involved in when I was in the passenger seat and wasn't wearing a seat
> belt.
>
> "DC" <dc@spamsony.com> wrote in message news:437d305d$1@linux...
>>
>> It's amazing. I took a look at the discussion group they talked
>> about in the piece and I have never heard so much misinformation...
>>
>> There is one brave soul on that group trying to straighten out all
>> these poor volunteers who are trying to keep the pastor from the
>> same fate...
>>
>> The one that got me was the discussion about how wireless wouldn't
>> solve the problem because you would still get shocked by the
>> battery. Oh and the one about how you would be ok with turning
>> off the phantom and using a dynamic...
>>
>> arrggHHHHHH!!!
>>
>> It's no wonder people get shocked. The worst danger I have ever
>> seen is the old 1950's guitar amps with a non-polarized 2-prong
>> power cord. You have a 50-50 chance, at any given time you
>> plug the amp in, of having 117 volts on your fingers....
>>
>> You won't notice until you grab something that is grounded...
>>
>>
>> zzzZZZTTTTT
>>
>> Not a very romantic way to die for your art...
>>
>> EK Sound <
Re: OT, How good is VOIP!?! [message #60397 is a reply to message #60396] Fri, 18 November 2005 08:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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target="_blank">spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote:
>> >We have had calls about this from local churches...
>> >
>> >David.
>> >
>> >DC wrote:
>> >> Seen this?
>> >>
>> >> http://svconline.com/enewsletters/church_safety_concerns_111 72005/
>>
>
>I know this has been discussed before, but what is the
most current version of Waves that can run w/ Paris?

I just tried the Transformer Bundle demo in Digital Performer.
The Soundshifter plugin is amazing! I'd love to be able to run it
in Paris, but I haven't been able to run anything more recent than
Waveshell 3.2.

Thanks,

GanttSeriously, this is a sad story. It's motivated me to double check my DIY
power distro I made for my band. I followed proper procedure, but the thing
gets banged around a lot, so better safe than sorry.

Tony


"Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message
news:437e3e5c$1@linux...
> This is about the same time you started on that nasty conservative bent
> also isn't it? ;>) Maybe shock treatment is a legitimate cure for
> liberalism? Makes you think, huh? ;>)
>
> Disclaimer: The above comments were made purely in jest. I love you all,
> conservative, liberal, or a little of both.
>
> Tony
>
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:437d4148$1@linux...
>>I got the hot lips treatment back around 1966 in a rehearsal session.
>> Knocked my ass halfway across the room. I haven't been the same since.
>> It
>> ranks right up there on the paranoia meter with a head on collision I was
>> involved in when I was in the passenger seat and wasn't wearing a seat
>> belt.
>>
>> "DC" <dc@spamsony.com> wrote in message news:437d305d$1@linux...
>>>
>>> It's amazing. I took a look at the discussion group they talked
>>> about in the piece and I have never heard so much misinformation...
>>>
>>> There is one brave soul on that group trying to straighten out all
>>> these poor volunteers who are trying to keep the pastor from the
>>> same fate...
>>>
>>> The one that got me was the discussion about how wireless wouldn't
>>> solve the problem because you would still get shocked by the
>>> battery. Oh and the one about how you would be ok with turning
>>> off the phantom and using a dynamic...
>>>
>>> arrggHHHHHH!!!
>>>
>>> It's no wonder people get shocked. The worst danger I have ever
>>> seen is the old 1950's guitar amps with a non-polarized 2-prong
>>> power cord. You have a 50-50 chance, at any given time you
>>> plug the amp in, of having 117 volts on your fingers....
>>>
>>> You won't notice
Re: OT, How good is VOIP!?! [message #60402 is a reply to message #60393] Fri, 18 November 2005 13:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I understand
> he gets a bunch of free overseas minutes every month. My plan on the other
> hand costs $1.72 or something to call the U.S. or U.K. for an hour...
> hardly
> going to break the bank. ;o)
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>I talked to Erling on VOIP a few months ago. The signal was strong and
>>clear
>>with no problematidc latency between Colorado and Norway.
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:437d9b90$1@linux...
>>>
>>>
>>> Just got it set up. Strangely, due to a bungle in the account of my
>>previous
>>> house, my phone got cut off...
>>>
>>> ...but not really, because just half an hour earlier I'd punched in the
>>> config for the VOIP! I still had a phone where I could call everyone and
>>> pay the bills to get the phone reconnected! :o)
>>>
>>> I haven't been able to notice any quality difference at all as of yet,
> but
>>> I am using the world's cheapest worst quality wireless handset to do the
>>> tests. ;o) Still, the fact that the delay isn't noticable is a start.
>>>
>>> I'm stoked! :o)
Re: OT, How good is VOIP!?! [message #60407 is a reply to message #60402] Fri, 18 November 2005 13:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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notice any quality difference at all as of yet,
>> but
>> >>I am using the world's cheapest worst quality wireless handset to do
the
>> >>tests. ;o) Still, the fact that the delay isn't noticable is a start.
>> >>
>> >>I'm stoked! :o)
>> >>
>> >>Cheers,
>> >>Kim.
>> >
>>
>
>Or you could stack 2 of em I suppose.

"Cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote:
>
>Sunrocket gives you 2 phone numbers. (only I at a time though)
>
>
>
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>I love their commercials.....especially the one where the guy cuts down
>the
>>giant tree and tries to push it to change the direction of it's fall while
>>it's crashing down on his car. Also, the dumbass who skiis off his roof
>and
>>lands on a pickup truck.
>>
>>Unfortunately, I only have DSL here. Still, it would be a bit cheaper than
>>my local service for the two lines I've got here. I have two land lines
>and
>>two mobile accounts. Once they get it sussed for mobile phones, I will
be
>>able to shuffle things around to use the one DSL line for the house and
>the
>>mobile for my office and I will likely save about $200.00 per month.
>>
>>That will RAWK ;o)
>>
>>"Michael Broyles" <mbroyles@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>news:437df843$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Worry no more my friend. I've had Vonage for over a year now and am very
>>satisfied
>>> with the product. Since I converted in Sept. 2004, I've saved in the
>>neighborhood
>>> of $600 as well.
>>
Re: OT, How good is VOIP!?! [message #60411 is a reply to message #60394] Fri, 18 November 2005 16:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> >>previous
>>> >>house, my phone got cut off...
>>> >>
>>> >>...but not really, because just half an hour earlier I'd punched in
>the
>>> >>config for the VOIP! I still had a phone where I could call everyone
>and
>>> >>pay the bills to get the phone reconnected! :o)
>>> >>
>>> >>I haven't been able to notice any quality difference at all as of yet,
>>> but
>>> >>I am using the world's cheapest worst quality wireless handset to do
>the
>>> >>tests. ;o) Still, the fact that the delay isn't noticable is a start.
>>> >>
>>> >>I'm stoked! :o)
>>> >>
>>> >>Cheers,
>>> >>Kim.
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>Check out Skype. It runs on your computer. It costs almost nothing, and if
you both have it it is free. I called my mother from Japan and she thought
that was pretty special.

Bill

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:437d9b90$1@linux...
>
>
> Just got it set up. Strangely, due to a bungle in the account of my
> previous
> house, my phone got cut off...
>
> ...but not really, because just half an hour earlier I'd punched in the
> config for the VOIP! I still had a phone where I could call everyone and
> pay the bills to get the phone reconnected! :o)
>
> I haven't been able to notice any quality difference at all as of yet, but
> I am using the world's cheapest worst qua
Re: OT, How good is VOIP!?! [message #60412 is a reply to message #60397] Fri, 18 November 2005 16:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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lity wireless handset to do the
> tests. ;o) Still, the fact that the delay isn't noticable is a start.
>
> I'm stoked! :o)
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.Seagate rocks IMO.
AA

"Sanbar" <sanbar@wi.rr.com> wrote in message news:437e2eb6$1@linux...
> I'm thinking about picking up a 200gb Seagate Hard Drive mainly because
> the
> warranty is so much longer than the other brands (5 years). Any experience
> with these.
>
> Barry
>
>Looks nice. I like the added compressor feature.

Here is a shootout of summers
http://www.studioreviews.com/summing-box-shootout.htmhttp:// www.studioreviews.com/summing-box-shootout.htm

Bill

"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:437d338c$1@linux...
>
> I thought some of you might be interested in this.
>
> http://www.audient.co.uk/Audient_Products.jsp?WhatToDo=SHOW_ ITEM&CatID=22&ItemID=50
>
> JamesWatching former leaders of this country who I used to respect, to a greater
or lesser degree, and who I voted for in many instances become willing to
throw this country under the train in pursuit of a secular and socialist
ideology that has repeatedly failed every time it has been attempted is
certainly as cure for liberalism.............but I love everyone here too.

;o)

"Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message
news:437e3e5c$1@linux...
> This is about the same time you started on that nasty conservative bent
also
> isn't it? ;>) Maybe shock treatment is a legitimate cure for liberalism?
> Makes you think, huh? ;>)
>
> Disclaimer: The above comments were made purely in jest. I love you all,
> conservative, liberal, or a little of both.
>
> Tony
>
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:437d4148$1@linux...
> >I got the hot lips treatment back around 1966 in a rehearsal session.
> > Knocked my ass halfway across the room. I haven't been the same since.
It
> > ranks right up there on the paranoia meter with a head on collision I
was
> > involved in when I was in the passenger seat and wasn't wearing a seat
> > belt.
> >
> > "DC" <dc@spamsony.com> wrote in message news:437d305d$1@linux...
> >>
> >> It's amazing. I took a look at the discussion group they talked
> >> about in the piece and I have never heard so much misinformation...
> >>
> >> There is one brave soul on that group trying to straighten out all
> >> these poor volunteers who are trying to keep the pastor from the
> >> same fate...
> >>
> >> The one that got me was the discussion about how wireless wouldn't
> >> solve the problem because you would still get shocked by the
> >> battery. Oh and the one about how you would be ok with turning
> >> off the phantom and using a dynamic...
> >>
> >> arrggHHHHHH!!!
> >>
> >> It's no wonder people get shocked. The worst danger I have ever
&
Re: OT, How good is VOIP!?! [message #60413 is a reply to message #60412] Fri, 18 November 2005 16:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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gt; >> seen is the old 1950's guitar amps with a non-polarized 2-prong
> >> power cord. You have a 50-50 chance, at any given time you
> >> plug the amp in, of having 117 volts on your fingers....
> >>
> >> You won't notice until you grab something that is grounded...
> >>
> >>
> >> zzzZZZTTTTT
> >>
> >> Not a very romantic way to die for your art...
> >>
> >> EK Sound <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote:
> >> >We have had calls about this from local churches...
> >> >
> >> >David.
> >> >
> >> >DC wrote:
> >> >> Seen this?
> >> >>
> >> >> http://svconline.com/enewsletters/church_safety_concerns_111 72005/
> >>
> >
> >
>
>>Churches are the one group who far too often cut corners
>they shouldn't... all in the name of saving money. Can't
>remember how many times I've seen clear and present Danger
>in Church wiring jobs. We have actually declined to work on
>some of them if they won't go for our "minimum spec".
>
>David.

David, I agree with you here. I just want to add that I have also seen many
churches ripped off by unscrupulous dealers who charge them several times
what they charge other clients...while also providing poor installation.

Tyrone"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote:

>David, I agree with you here. I just want to add that I have also seen many
>churches ripped off by unscrupulous dealers who charge them several times
>what they charge other clients...while also providing poor installation.


Man, you got that one right. I am pleased to say that we murder
those guys as often as we can, and enjoy doing so. We go in,
do one great job, and the crook never gets another job with that
demomination again.

Sometimes I love my job...

DCAaron Allen wrote:
> Seagate rocks IMO.
> AA
>
> "Sanbar" <sanbar@wi.rr.com> wrote in message news:437e2eb6$1@linux...
>
>>I'm thinking about picking up a 200gb Seagate Hard Drive mainly because
>>the
>>warranty is so much longer than the other brands (5 years). Any experience
>>with these.
>>
>>Barry
>>
>>
>
>
>
dido AA non betterDimitrios wrote:
> Hi,
> I lost all my Paris skins from accidental erase !
> Anyone has gothered them ?
> I am looking mostly for the balck ones (not with the yellow,purple leds etc)
> But I could use all.
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
me too lost mine in a migration.I've posted a ton of files from DJ on what will from now on be known as "The
Emu/Ensoniq Paris File Vault" web site. Be sure to look at the "Read Me"
files so you know what's what. We're still missing one file in Mic Shootout
2. It's the SE Titan normal voicing. I'll add it as soon as Deej sends it to
me. I've also added a web interface to make navigation a little easier.

Go here and check it out:

www.mercysakes.com

Enjoy!

Tony

PS - Deej, let me know if anything looks screwed up.Sorry Gantt, it's just a PC thing with Windows.

Erling

"Gantt Kushner" <gizmo@his.com> skrev i melding
news:437E4C05.CD8482CC@his.com...
>I should have also mentioned that I'm a Mac guy. Is Chainer a PC thing?
>
> Gantt
>
> erlilo wrote:
>
>> I think you can use these things as VST plugs in Paris with a wrapper
>> like
>> "Chainer".
>>
>> Erling
>>
>> "Gantt Kushner" <gizmo@his.com> skrev i melding
>> news:437E3E1D.94AE0025@his.com...
>> >I know this has been discussed before, but what
Re: OT, How good is VOIP!?! [message #60414 is a reply to message #60389] Fri, 18 November 2005 17:03 Go to previous message
Bill Lorentzen is currently offline  Bill Lorentzen   UNITED STATES
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is the
>> > most current version of Waves that can run w/ Paris?
>> >
>> > I just tried the Transformer Bundle demo in Digital Performer.
>> > The Soundshifter plugin is amazing! I'd love to be able to run it
>> > in Paris, but I haven't been able to run anything more recent than
>> > Waveshell 3.2.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Gantt
>> >
>I was a Maxtor loyalist, until two 80gig drives bit the dust. After reading
up on drive reliability, I went with three 120gig Seagate drives.
MR

"Sanbar" <sanbar@wi.rr.com> wrote:
>I'm thinking about picking up a 200gb Seagate Hard Drive mainly because
the
>warranty is so much longer than the other brands (5 years). Any experience
>with these.
>
>Barry
>
>I think they all suck

Mike R. wrote:
> I was a Maxtor loyalist, until two 80gig drives bit the dust. After re
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