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| New 'puter [message #100387] |
Wed, 17 September 2008 19:17  |
TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
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Hey all,
Well, in case anyone here cares, I had a mobo fail on me a bit ago. Computer
no workee. I can build my own, of course, but I'm sick of doing that and
hate troubleshooting hardware at that level. At least give me a POST so I'm
not looking up beep codes, or worse yet remembering I never plugged in the
system sound so can't even hear the damn beep codes.
I could have hired Morgan or Chris to do the job for me of course. But I'm
pretty savvy with computers after 15 years working on them and really just
didn't want to do the build myself, the config/research value-add that those
guys give don't do much for me. So instead I had an online custom builder
who does gamer boxes do it for me. Or at least I ordered it. Here's the config.
Asus P5Q Pro mobo, Intel P45 chipset
Core2 Quad Q6600 (4x 2.4 Ghz)
2GB DDR2 memory
ATI 3850 video card that will drive a 2560x1600 30" display
Intel certified liquid cooling system
Cheapest everything else (DVD RW, hard drive, etc and so forth, I have all
of those parts)
That was $849 + shipping.
I realize this isn't the absolute cheapest price possible for this rig but
I think I got a decent deal and there were a couple of things I liked about
these guys. They don't force me to buy a Windows license (I have about half
a dozen ways I can legitimately install XP and Vista on this thing), they
were good about helping me find a few of the components, and they didn't
try to upsell me on all kinds of stupid shit I don't need like $500 video
cards.
We'll see. Pulsar users claim this chipset will play nice with my card but
I'll believe it when I see it, esp with the quad processor. The LSI firewire
chipset is something even MOTU will support, and one that LiquidMix users
have switched TO on the forums, so the small (x2) PCI slot count shouldn't
bite me on the ass. If those two things will work I can deal with pretty
much anything else.
I'll keep the group posted on what I find, as usual this will be an SX/Live/Reason
machine with 15,000 plug-ins and synths on it.
TCB
P.S. In a diametrically opposed treat I also bought myself a Leica IIIf camera
from 1952. New tech does a lot more but the purely mechanical devices of
the past are pretty freaking cool.
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| Re: New 'puter [message #100389 is a reply to message #100387] |
Wed, 17 September 2008 20:04  |
chuck duffy
Messages: 453
Registered: July 2005
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But I care so deeply Thad, I really do :-) Seems like a good deal to me, considering
that you don't need the hand holding.
I am totally onboard the whole 15000 virtual synths thing, but the other
day I started just sticking a mono mic up in front of my piano, my amp and
my face and it sounded good too, except for the face part.
Chuck
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
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>Hey all,
>
>Well, in case anyone here cares, I had a mobo fail on me a bit ago. Computer
>no workee. I can build my own, of course, but I'm sick of doing that and
>hate troubleshooting hardware at that level. At least give me a POST so
I'm
>not looking up beep codes, or worse yet remembering I never plugged in the
>system sound so can't even hear the damn beep codes.
>
>I could have hired Morgan or Chris to do the job for me of course. But I'm
>pretty savvy with computers after 15 years working on them and really just
>didn't want to do the build myself, the config/research value-add that those
>guys give don't do much for me. So instead I had an online custom builder
>who does gamer boxes do it for me. Or at least I ordered it. Here's the
config.
>
>
>Asus P5Q Pro mobo, Intel P45 chipset
>Core2 Quad Q6600 (4x 2.4 Ghz)
>2GB DDR2 memory
>ATI 3850 video card that will drive a 2560x1600 30" display
>Intel certified liquid cooling system
>Cheapest everything else (DVD RW, hard drive, etc and so forth, I have all
>of those parts)
>
>That was $849 + shipping.
>
>I realize this isn't the absolute cheapest price possible for this rig but
>I think I got a decent deal and there were a couple of things I liked about
>these guys. They don't force me to buy a Windows license (I have about half
>a dozen ways I can legitimately install XP and Vista on this thing), they
>were good about helping me find a few of the components, and they didn't
>try to upsell me on all kinds of stupid shit I don't need like $500 video
>cards.
>
>We'll see. Pulsar users claim this chipset will play nice with my card but
>I'll believe it when I see it, esp with the quad processor. The LSI firewire
>chipset is something even MOTU will support, and one that LiquidMix users
>have switched TO on the forums, so the small (x2) PCI slot count shouldn't
>bite me on the ass. If those two things will work I can deal with pretty
>much anything else.
>
>I'll keep the group posted on what I find, as usual this will be an SX/Live/Reason
>machine with 15,000 plug-ins and synths on it.
>
>TCB
>
>P.S. In a diametrically opposed treat I also bought myself a Leica IIIf
camera
>from 1952. New tech does a lot more but the purely mechanical devices of
>the past are pretty freaking cool.
>
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| Re: New 'puter [message #100390 is a reply to message #100387] |
Wed, 17 September 2008 21:52 |
Chris Ludwig
Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006
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Hi Thad,
Heh Yes I don't think you need any hand holding form me. Well Ok if you
wanna hold hands we can. We can spoon if you want.
Liquid cooling? Are you over clocking it? Kinda over kill for such a low
voltage low heat chip if you ain't over clocking it.
Make sure want ever OS backup software you use actually works right when
backing up and restoring. The ICH10 chip set doesn't have allot of
support yet. Do not use AHCI as a a controller mode it will cause issues
with the pro audio stuff. Using that chip in either IDE or Raid mode it
will work fine. The raid mode will give you trouble with the back up
software if your program uses a boot CD especially for recovery. You
will probably need to use a Windows PE disk and pre-load the chip set
drivers on it in order to use a boot disk.
Chris
TCB wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> Well, in case anyone here cares, I had a mobo fail on me a bit ago. Computer
> no workee. I can build my own, of course, but I'm sick of doing that and
> hate troubleshooting hardware at that level. At least give me a POST so I'm
> not looking up beep codes, or worse yet remembering I never plugged in the
> system sound so can't even hear the damn beep codes.
>
> I could have hired Morgan or Chris to do the job for me of course. But I'm
> pretty savvy with computers after 15 years working on them and really just
> didn't want to do the build myself, the config/research value-add that those
> guys give don't do much for me. So instead I had an online custom builder
> who does gamer boxes do it for me. Or at least I ordered it. Here's the config.
>
>
> Asus P5Q Pro mobo, Intel P45 chipset
> Core2 Quad Q6600 (4x 2.4 Ghz)
> 2GB DDR2 memory
> ATI 3850 video card that will drive a 2560x1600 30" display
> Intel certified liquid cooling system
> Cheapest everything else (DVD RW, hard drive, etc and so forth, I have all
> of those parts)
>
> That was $849 + shipping.
>
> I realize this isn't the absolute cheapest price possible for this rig but
> I think I got a decent deal and there were a couple of things I liked about
> these guys. They don't force me to buy a Windows license (I have about half
> a dozen ways I can legitimately install XP and Vista on this thing), they
> were good about helping me find a few of the components, and they didn't
> try to upsell me on all kinds of stupid shit I don't need like $500 video
> cards.
>
> We'll see. Pulsar users claim this chipset will play nice with my card but
> I'll believe it when I see it, esp with the quad processor. The LSI firewire
> chipset is something even MOTU will support, and one that LiquidMix users
> have switched TO on the forums, so the small (x2) PCI slot count shouldn't
> bite me on the ass. If those two things will work I can deal with pretty
> much anything else.
>
> I'll keep the group posted on what I find, as usual this will be an SX/Live/Reason
> machine with 15,000 plug-ins and synths on it.
>
> TCB
>
> P.S. In a diametrically opposed treat I also bought myself a Leica IIIf camera
> from 1952. New tech does a lot more but the purely mechanical devices of
> the past are pretty freaking cool.
>
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| Re: New 'puter [message #100404 is a reply to message #100400] |
Fri, 19 September 2008 06:45 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
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Funny you mention the processing. I'm just getting back into film and have
been using the local 'pro' lab for processing. A 'real pro' (he makes his
living from it) friend of mine showed me the negatives and scans to CD he
had done at Costco and I was blown away. The prints were pretty much 'blah'
but the scans of the negatives were _gorgeous_ and hi-res, and the negatives
looked not better/worse than the 'pro' shop in town. In fact, considering
the turnaround times I suspect the 'pro' shop is outsourcing the development
process and only printing in house.
Anyway, I'm doing a 'bake off' of processing options. I picked up four rolls
each of Fuji and Kodak mid-priced color film and four rolls of Ilford XP-2
C-41 for B+W. I'm going to shoot them all with a combination of indoor/outdoor,
humans/things, and day/night and drop off one roll of each film at Costco,
Sam's Club, Wal-Mart, and the 'pro' shop. Whoever does the best job is my
new film processor.
Anyway, really fun stuff, and a new geeky gadget laden hobby.
TCB
"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>Med format is a blast, I also have a pretty large Pentax 645 kit... with
>lots of prime lens's
>
>For color I shoot Velvia almost exclusively. Problem is, all the wet
>labs are closing. There are only two labs left in town doing E6... and
>neither of them were my favorite place to take my film. One processed,
>I have an Epson 4990 that I use to scan the stuff into the computer.
>Works great.
>
>Many audio types here in town are also avid photographers... quite a
>coincidence...
>
>David.
>
>TCB wrote:
>> Very cool, I've only shot a handful of medium format cameras and they
were
>> all eons ago, back when I was in high school and men could talk to animals.
>> If I keep on spending this much time messing around I might get a Fuji
690
>> for when I want a _real_ big ass negative. But that Yashica must be fun.
>>
>>
>> The film world sure has changed a lot as well. I'm running through a bunch
>> of negative options to see what I like. So far plain ol' Fujicolor is
leading
>> the way for color and the Ilford color process B&W just for kicks. I'm
going
>> to run some slllloooooowwww Tri-x through it soon to remind myself what
diehard
>> B&W looks like.
>>
>> I also have a Nikon D300 that is a mind blowing camera. Photography is
a
>> lot like audio to me, the digital stuff is incredible and I'm happy to
exploit
>> all of its wonderful goodness. But I also like the old school stuff because
>> it has a real different flavor.
>>
>> TCB
>>
>> EK Sound <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote:
>>> Very cool,
>>>
>>> I have a Yashica 124G that I keep Ilford FP4 in... it takes AMAZING
>>> pictures...
>>>
>>> David.
>>>
>>>> TCB
>>>>
>>>> P.S. In a diametrically opposed treat I also bought myself a Leica IIIf
>> camera
>>>> from 1952. New tech does a lot more but the purely mechanical devices
>> of
>>>> the past are pretty freaking cool.
>>>>
>>
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| Re: New 'puter [message #100405 is a reply to message #100387] |
Fri, 19 September 2008 09:20 |
Rich Lamanna
Messages: 316
Registered: February 2006
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Senior Member |
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That's the old rangefinder. I loved those old Leica's. Very cool. I still
have a Nikon FA with a macro lens that I love. I just went and took it out
of the closet to bond again. It's been years.
Rich
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:48d1ba55$1@linux...
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> Hey all,
>
> Well, in case anyone here cares, I had a mobo fail on me a bit ago.
Computer
> no workee. I can build my own, of course, but I'm sick of doing that and
> hate troubleshooting hardware at that level. At least give me a POST so
I'm
> not looking up beep codes, or worse yet remembering I never plugged in the
> system sound so can't even hear the damn beep codes.
>
> I could have hired Morgan or Chris to do the job for me of course. But I'm
> pretty savvy with computers after 15 years working on them and really just
> didn't want to do the build myself, the config/research value-add that
those
> guys give don't do much for me. So instead I had an online custom builder
> who does gamer boxes do it for me. Or at least I ordered it. Here's the
config.
>
>
> Asus P5Q Pro mobo, Intel P45 chipset
> Core2 Quad Q6600 (4x 2.4 Ghz)
> 2GB DDR2 memory
> ATI 3850 video card that will drive a 2560x1600 30" display
> Intel certified liquid cooling system
> Cheapest everything else (DVD RW, hard drive, etc and so forth, I have all
> of those parts)
>
> That was $849 + shipping.
>
> I realize this isn't the absolute cheapest price possible for this rig but
> I think I got a decent deal and there were a couple of things I liked
about
> these guys. They don't force me to buy a Windows license (I have about
half
> a dozen ways I can legitimately install XP and Vista on this thing), they
> were good about helping me find a few of the components, and they didn't
> try to upsell me on all kinds of stupid shit I don't need like $500 video
> cards.
>
> We'll see. Pulsar users claim this chipset will play nice with my card but
> I'll believe it when I see it, esp with the quad processor. The LSI
firewire
> chipset is something even MOTU will support, and one that LiquidMix users
> have switched TO on the forums, so the small (x2) PCI slot count shouldn't
> bite me on the ass. If those two things will work I can deal with pretty
> much anything else.
>
> I'll keep the group posted on what I find, as usual this will be an
SX/Live/Reason
> machine with 15,000 plug-ins and synths on it.
>
> TCB
>
> P.S. In a diametrically opposed treat I also bought myself a Leica IIIf
camera
> from 1952. New tech does a lot more but the purely mechanical devices of
> the past are pretty freaking cool.
>
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| Re: New 'puter [message #100407 is a reply to message #100405] |
Fri, 19 September 2008 10:29 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
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Senior Member |
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Yup, she's a beauty. I haven't had the shutter calibrated but doing a rough
test (stop lens down one stop and double shutter speed, compare pictures)
it's awfully close. The rest of it was built like a roman aqueduct--to last
forever.
You should pull the Nikon out. As I mentioned in the other post, I've been
shooting the Ilford B+W film that is developed using standard color process.
The prints onto color paper can be a bit off, but the negative are fantastic
so you can scan or have things custom printed. Really, really fun.
TCB
"Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
>That's the old rangefinder. I loved those old Leica's. Very cool. I still
>have a Nikon FA with a macro lens that I love. I just went and took it out
>of the closet to bond again. It's been years.
>
>Rich
>
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:48d1ba55$1@linux...
>>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> Well, in case anyone here cares, I had a mobo fail on me a bit ago.
>Computer
>> no workee. I can build my own, of course, but I'm sick of doing that and
>> hate troubleshooting hardware at that level. At least give me a POST so
>I'm
>> not looking up beep codes, or worse yet remembering I never plugged in
the
>> system sound so can't even hear the damn beep codes.
>>
>> I could have hired Morgan or Chris to do the job for me of course. But
I'm
>> pretty savvy with computers after 15 years working on them and really
just
>> didn't want to do the build myself, the config/research value-add that
>those
>> guys give don't do much for me. So instead I had an online custom builder
>> who does gamer boxes do it for me. Or at least I ordered it. Here's the
>config.
>>
>>
>> Asus P5Q Pro mobo, Intel P45 chipset
>> Core2 Quad Q6600 (4x 2.4 Ghz)
>> 2GB DDR2 memory
>> ATI 3850 video card that will drive a 2560x1600 30" display
>> Intel certified liquid cooling system
>> Cheapest everything else (DVD RW, hard drive, etc and so forth, I have
all
>> of those parts)
>>
>> That was $849 + shipping.
>>
>> I realize this isn't the absolute cheapest price possible for this rig
but
>> I think I got a decent deal and there were a couple of things I liked
>about
>> these guys. They don't force me to buy a Windows license (I have about
>half
>> a dozen ways I can legitimately install XP and Vista on this thing), they
>> were good about helping me find a few of the components, and they didn't
>> try to upsell me on all kinds of stupid shit I don't need like $500 video
>> cards.
>>
>> We'll see. Pulsar users claim this chipset will play nice with my card
but
>> I'll believe it when I see it, esp with the quad processor. The LSI
>firewire
>> chipset is something even MOTU will support, and one that LiquidMix users
>> have switched TO on the forums, so the small (x2) PCI slot count shouldn't
>> bite me on the ass. If those two things will work I can deal with pretty
>> much anything else.
>>
>> I'll keep the group posted on what I find, as usual this will be an
>SX/Live/Reason
>> machine with 15,000 plug-ins and synths on it.
>>
>> TCB
>>
>> P.S. In a diametrically opposed treat I also bought myself a Leica IIIf
>camera
>> from 1952. New tech does a lot more but the purely mechanical devices
of
>> the past are pretty freaking cool.
>>
>
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