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virus protection [message #93773]

Thu, 20 December 2007 10:47

Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005

Senior Member

Need something good. Symantec????....never again. I'm in the process of
running a recovery app to reclaim my critical data after Norton missed a
boot sector virus that hosed my system drive on my office machine. Thank God
that this application (called Recover My Files) has found the data on the
hosed drive. I've loaded a clean install of Win XP on a brand new 160G drive
and I think I'll be able to recover what I need off the old one, but I've
had it with Norton. It's bloated and uses lots of system resources and now I
don't trust Norton to catch any virii that might be infesting the files I'm
recovering that will be loaded on to the new system. I can't even get Ghost
to recognize the new drive in order to recover a backup drive image I had
which was relatively recent.........and I don't want to use that drive image
anyway because it probably is infested with bugs.

I'm typing this from my other office machine that is protected by PC-cillin
which seems to work OK. I want to protect this new system in a very serious
way. I don't want to have to deal with this crap again. What do you guys
reccommend?

Thanks,

Deej

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Re: virus protection [message #93774 is a reply to message #93773]

Thu, 20 December 2007 11:38

Chris Ludwig

Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006

Senior Member

hands down .
http://www.eset.com/products/nod32.php

and make regular backups with either Acronis True Image Home or Paragon
Drive Backup 8.51 Personal.

DJ wrote:
> Need something good. Symantec????....never again. I'm in the process of
> running a recovery app to reclaim my critical data after Norton missed a
> boot sector virus that hosed my system drive on my office machine. Thank God
> that this application (called Recover My Files) has found the data on the
> hosed drive. I've loaded a clean install of Win XP on a brand new 160G drive
> and I think I'll be able to recover what I need off the old one, but I've
> had it with Norton. It's bloated and uses lots of system resources and now I
> don't trust Norton to catch any virii that might be infesting the files I'm
> recovering that will be loaded on to the new system. I can't even get Ghost
> to recognize the new drive in order to recover a backup drive image I had
> which was relatively recent.........and I don't want to use that drive image
> anyway because it probably is infested with bugs.
>
> I'm typing this from my other office machine that is protected by PC-cillin
> which seems to work OK. I want to protect this new system in a very serious
> way. I don't want to have to deal with this crap again. What do you guys
> reccommend?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Deej
>
>

--
Chris Ludwig

ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.com

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Re: virus protection [message #93775 is a reply to message #93774]

Thu, 20 December 2007 13:12

Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005

Senior Member

Thanks Chris.

I've DL'ed them both

"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:476ac59c@linux...
> hands down .
> http://www.eset.com/products/nod32.php
>
> and make regular backups with either Acronis True Image Home or Paragon
> Drive Backup 8.51 Personal.
>
>
>
> DJ wrote:
>> Need something good. Symantec????....never again. I'm in the process of
>> running a recovery app to reclaim my critical data after Norton missed a
>> boot sector virus that hosed my system drive on my office machine. Thank
>> God that this application (called Recover My Files) has found the data on
>> the hosed drive. I've loaded a clean install of Win XP on a brand new
>> 160G drive and I think I'll be able to recover what I need off the old
>> one, but I've had it with Norton. It's bloated and uses lots of system
>> resources and now I don't trust Norton to catch any virii that might be
>> infesting the files I'm recovering that will be loaded on to the new
>> system. I can't even get Ghost to recognize the new drive in order to
>> recover a backup drive image I had which was relatively
>> recent.........and I don't want to use that drive image anyway because it
>> probably is infested with bugs.
>>
>> I'm typing this from my other office machine that is protected by
>> PC-cillin which seems to work OK. I want to protect this new system in a
>> very serious way. I don't want to have to deal with this crap again. What
>> do you guys reccommend?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Deej
>>
>>
>
> --
> Chris Ludwig
>
> ADK Pro Audio
> (859) 635-5762
> www.adkproaudio.com
> chrisl@adkproaudio.com

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Re: virus protection [message #93776 is a reply to message #93774]

Thu, 20 December 2007 14:32

John [1]
Messages: 2229
Registered: September 2005

Senior Member

yep !

Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>hands down .
>http://www.eset.com/products/nod32.php
>
>and make regular backups with either Acronis True Image Home or Paragon

>Drive Backup 8.51 Personal.
>
>
>
>DJ wrote:
>> Need something good. Symantec????....never again. I'm in the process of

>> running a recovery app to reclaim my critical data after Norton missed
a
>> boot sector virus that hosed my system drive on my office machine. Thank
God
>> that this application (called Recover My Files) has found the data on
the
>> hosed drive. I've loaded a clean install of Win XP on a brand new 160G
drive
>> and I think I'll be able to recover what I need off the old one, but I've

>> had it with Norton. It's bloated and uses lots of system resources and
now I
>> don't trust Norton to catch any virii that might be infesting the files
I'm
>> recovering that will be loaded on to the new system. I can't even get
Ghost
>> to recognize the new drive in order to recover a backup drive image I
had
>> which was relatively recent.........and I don't want to use that drive
image
>> anyway because it probably is infested with bugs.
>>
>> I'm typing this from my other office machine that is protected by PC-cillin

>> which seems to work OK. I want to protect this new system in a very serious

>> way. I don't want to have to deal with this crap again. What do you guys

>> reccommend?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Deej
>>
>>
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>
>ADK Pro Audio
>(859) 635-5762
>www.adkproaudio.com
>chrisl@adkproaudio.com

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Re: virus protection [message #93777 is a reply to message #93773]

Thu, 20 December 2007 14:32

Erling

Messages: 156
Registered: October 2008

Senior Member

I have said it plenty of times here before and am saying it a last
time;-) Have a look here:
http://www.avast.com/ The SC Awards winners in 2006.

One of my Norwegian mucisian-recording friends, that's also a
dataspecialist, recommended it for me some years ago. When analyzing
Norton and it's problem, he threw Norton out at once and ended up with
Avast.

Erling

On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 11:47:26 -0700, "DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote:

>Need something good. Symantec????....never again. I'm in the process of
>running a recovery app to reclaim my critical data after Norton missed a
>boot sector virus that hosed my system drive on my office machine. Thank God
>that this application (called Recover My Files) has found the data on the
>hosed drive. I've loaded a clean install of Win XP on a brand new 160G drive
>and I think I'll be able to recover what I need off the old one, but I've
>had it with Norton. It's bloated and uses lots of system resources and now I
>don't trust Norton to catch any virii that might be infesting the files I'm
>recovering that will be loaded on to the new system. I can't even get Ghost
>to recognize the new drive in order to recover a backup drive image I had
>which was relatively recent.........and I don't want to use that drive image
>anyway because it probably is infested with bugs.
>
>I'm typing this from my other office machine that is protected by PC-cillin
>which seems to work OK. I want to protect this new system in a very serious
>way. I don't want to have to deal with this crap again. What do you guys
>reccommend?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Deej
>

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Re: virus protection [message #93778 is a reply to message #93773]

Thu, 20 December 2007 15:11

Martin Harrington

Messages: 560
Registered: September 2005

Senior Member

A Mac ???

Martin Harrington

On 21/12/07 5:47 AM, in article 476ab998$1@linux, "DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote:

> Need something good. Symantec????....never again. I'm in the process of
> running a recovery app to reclaim my critical data after Norton missed a
> boot sector virus that hosed my system drive on my office machine. Thank God
> that this application (called Recover My Files) has found the data on the
> hosed drive. I've loaded a clean install of Win XP on a brand new 160G drive
> and I think I'll be able to recover what I need off the old one, but I've
> had it with Norton. It's bloated and uses lots of system resources and now I
> don't trust Norton to catch any virii that might be infesting the files I'm
> recovering that will be loaded on to the new system. I can't even get Ghost
> to recognize the new drive in order to recover a backup drive image I had
> which was relatively recent.........and I don't want to use that drive image
> anyway because it probably is infested with bugs.
>
> I'm typing this from my other office machine that is protected by PC-cillin
> which seems to work OK. I want to protect this new system in a very serious
> way. I don't want to have to deal with this crap again. What do you guys
> reccommend?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Deej
>
>

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Re: virus protection [message #93779 is a reply to message #93773]

Thu, 20 December 2007 16:17

Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005

Senior Member

I'm a fan of the Grisoft stuff. There's another free mob about too who are
supposed to be good.

Nothing is perfect in Virusland of course, but Grisoft is free (for some
uses), it's not bloated, it's stable, and while early on it used to miss
things, I don't think I've seen it miss a virus for a couple of years, not
that I get a lot of viruses near my system, but it's been good.

On a DAW I usually consider it more important to ensure system stability
than protect against viruses. Virus protection on a DAW is best done by quarantine.
Just make sure that it's not on the net and that any media you put on it
has the extension "WAV" and you'll be right. ;o)

But you have nothing to lose by loading Grisoft AVG and trying it out, as
it is free after all.

Cheers,
Kim.

"DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote:
>Need something good. Symantec????....never again. I'm in the process of

>running a recovery app to reclaim my critical data after Norton missed a

>boot sector virus that hosed my system drive on my office machine. Thank
God
>that this application (called Recover My Files) has found the data on the

>hosed drive. I've loaded a clean install of Win XP on a brand new 160G drive

>and I think I'll be able to recover what I need off the old one, but I've

>had it with Norton. It's bloated and uses lots of system resources and now
I
>don't trust Norton to catch any virii that might be infesting the files
I'm
>recovering that will be loaded on to the new system. I can't even get Ghost

>to recognize the new drive in order to recover a backup drive image I had

>which was relatively recent.........and I don't want to use that drive image

>anyway because it probably is infested with bugs.
>
>I'm typing this from my other office machine that is protected by PC-cillin

>which seems to work OK. I want to protect this new system in a very serious

>way. I don't want to have to deal with this crap again. What do you guys

>reccommend?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Deej
>
>

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Re: virus protection [message #93790 is a reply to message #93773]

Thu, 20 December 2007 22:54

TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007

Senior Member

1. Turn on the XP firewall. Not great but gets the job done.
2. For downloads of software updates and such use firefox. Update it as requested.
3. If you need to surf/email from your audio machine do it in a VM. IMHO
I'd suggest Debian Etch or the current Ubuntu, but that's just because I
know the package manager well. If SuSE is your trip then good on you.
4. Don't install any specific anti-virus software, because you won't need
it.

TCB

"DJ" <no@way.jack> wrote:
>Need something good. Symantec????....never again. I'm in the process of

>running a recovery app to reclaim my critical data after Norton missed a

>boot sector virus that hosed my system drive on my office machine. Thank
God
>that this application (called Recover My Files) has found the data on the

>hosed drive. I've loaded a clean install of Win XP on a brand new 160G drive

>and I think I'll be able to recover what I need off the old one, but I've

>had it with Norton. It's bloated and uses lots of system resources and now
I
>don't trust Norton to catch any virii that might be infesting the files
I'm
>recovering that will be loaded on to the new system. I can't even get Ghost

>to recognize the new drive in order to recover a backup drive image I had

>which was relatively recent.........and I don't want to use that drive image

>anyway because it probably is infested with bugs.
>
>I'm typing this from my other office machine that is protected by PC-cillin

>which seems to work OK. I want to protect this new system in a very serious

>way. I don't want to have to deal with this crap again. What do you guys

>reccommend?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Deej
>
>

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Re: virus protection [message #93843 is a reply to message #93790]

Fri, 21 December 2007 22:44

Deej

Messages: 130
Registered: September 2006

Senior Member

"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:476b5530$1@linux...
>
> 1. Turn on the XP firewall. Not great but gets the job done.
> 2. For downloads of software updates and such use firefox. Update it as
> requested.
> 3. If you need to surf/email from your audio machine do it in a VM. IMHO
> I'd suggest Debian Etch or the current Ubuntu, but that's just because I
> know the package manager well. If SuSE is your trip then good on you.
> 4. Don't install any specific anti-virus software, because you won't need
> it.
>
> TCB
>

Huh???....could you please repeat this in Spanish or something that I can
understand?

;o)

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Re: virus protection [message #93844 is a reply to message #93774]

Fri, 21 December 2007 23:14

Deej

Messages: 130
Registered: September 2006

Senior Member

I love this anti virus app and Acronis. My computer is up and running and
it's very fast compared to what was happening with Norton. I wasn't aware of
how big a hit I was taking until I got rid of that crap. I love the way it
filters and the ease with which you can designate what is spam and what
isn't.

Very cool.

"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:476ac59c@linux...
> hands down .
> http://www.eset.com/products/nod32.php
>
> and make regular backups with either Acronis True Image Home or Paragon
> Drive Backup 8.51 Personal.
>
>
>
> DJ wrote:
>> Need something good. Symantec????....never again. I'm in the process of
>> running a recovery app to reclaim my critical data after Norton missed a
>> boot sector virus that hosed my system drive on my office machine. Thank
>> God that this application (called Recover My Files) has found the data on
>> the hosed drive. I've loaded a clean install of Win XP on a brand new
>> 160G drive and I think I'll be able to recover what I need off the old
>> one, but I've had it with Norton. It's bloated and uses lots of system
>> resources and now I don't trust Norton to catch any virii that might be
>> infesting the files I'm recovering that will be loaded on to the new
>> system. I can't even get Ghost to recognize the new drive in order to
>> recover a backup drive image I had which was relatively
>> recent.........and I don't want to use that drive image anyway because it
>> probably is infested with bugs.
>>
>> I'm typing this from my other office machine that is protected by
>> PC-cillin which seems to work OK. I want to protect this new system in a
>> very serious way. I don't want to have to deal with this crap again. What
>> do you guys reccommend?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Deej
>>
>>
>
> --
> Chris Ludwig
>
> ADK Pro Audio
> (859) 635-5762
> www.adkproaudio.com
> chrisl@adkproaudio.com

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Re: virus protection [message #93845 is a reply to message #93844]

Sat, 22 December 2007 00:50

steve the artguy
Messages: 308
Registered: June 2005

Senior Member

guys-
I've forwarded some of your virus comments to Bonnie.

Bonnie asks:
I wonder if any of them can comment on the "ThinkVantage" backup and restore
utility that comes with IBM/Lenovo Thinkpads.

"Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote:
>I love this anti virus app and Acronis. My computer is up and running and

>it's very fast compared to what was happening with Norton. I wasn't aware
of
>how big a hit I was taking until I got rid of that crap. I love the way
it
>filters and the ease with which you can designate what is spam and what

>isn't.
>
>Very cool.
>
>
>"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
>news:476ac59c@linux...
>> hands down .
>> http://www.eset.com/products/nod32.php
>>
>> and make regular backups with either Acronis True Image Home or Paragon

>> Drive Backup 8.51 Personal.
>>
>>
>>
>> DJ wrote:
>>> Need something good. Symantec????....never again. I'm in the process
of
>>> running a recovery app to reclaim my critical data after Norton missed
a
>>> boot sector virus that hosed my system drive on my office machine. Thank

>>> God that this application (called Recover My Files) has found the data
on
>>> the hosed drive. I've loaded a clean install of Win XP on a brand new

>>> 160G drive and I think I'll be able to recover what I need off the old

>>> one, but I've had it with Norton. It's bloated and uses lots of system

>>> resources and now I don't trust Norton to catch any virii that might
be
>>> infesting the files I'm recovering that will be loaded on to the new

>>> system. I can't even get Ghost to recognize the new drive in order to

>>> recover a backup drive image I had which was relatively
>>> recent.........and I don't want to use that drive image anyway because
it
>>> probably is infested with bugs.
>>>
>>> I'm typing this from my other office machine that is protected by
>>> PC-cillin which seems to work OK. I want to protect this new system in
a
>>> very serious way. I don't want to have to deal with this crap again.
What
>>> do you guys reccommend?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Deej
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Chris Ludwig
>>
>> ADK Pro Audio
>> (859) 635-5762
>> www.adkproaudio.com
>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>
>

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Re: virus protection [message #93862 is a reply to message #93845]

Sat, 22 December 2007 07:17

Chris Ludwig

Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006

Senior Member

HI Steve,
Haven't used the Lenovo stuff so haven't seen the backup/restore
software they use. It is more than likely a a OEM branded for Lenovo
version of one of the main backup programs. Hopefully not Norton.. :)
I remember when Dell and Gateway wee installing Nortons Go Back on
machines. Ouch.

Chris

steve the artguy wrote:
> guys-
> I've forwarded some of your virus comments to Bonnie.
>
> Bonnie asks:
> I wonder if any of them can comment on the "ThinkVantage" backup and restore
> utility that comes with IBM/Lenovo Thinkpads.
>
>
> "Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote:
>
>> I love this anti virus app and Acronis. My computer is up and running and
>>
>
>
>> it's very fast compared to what was happening with Norton. I wasn't aware
>>
> of
>
>> how big a hit I was taking until I got rid of that crap. I love the way
>>
> it
>
>> filters and the ease with which you can designate what is spam and what
>>
>
>
>> isn't.
>>
>> Very cool.
>>
>>
>> "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
>> news:476ac59c@linux...
>>
>>> hands down .
>>> http://www.eset.com/products/nod32.php
>>>
>>> and make regular backups with either Acronis True Image Home or Paragon
>>>
>
>
>>> Drive Backup 8.51 Personal.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> DJ wrote:
>>>
>>>> Need something good. Symantec????....never again. I'm in the process
>>>>
> of
>
>>>> running a recovery app to reclaim my critical data after Norton missed
>>>>
> a
>
>>>> boot sector virus that hosed my system drive on my office machine. Thank
>>>>
>
>
>>>> God that this application (called Recover My Files) has found the data
>>>>
> on
>
>>>> the hosed drive. I've loaded a clean install of Win XP on a brand new
>>>>
>
>
>>>> 160G drive and I think I'll be able to recover what I need off the old
>>>>
>
>
>>>> one, but I've had it with Norton. It's bloated and uses lots of system
>>>>
>
>
>>>> resources and now I don't trust Norton to catch any virii that might
>>>>
> be
>
>>>> infesting the files I'm recovering that will be loaded on to the new
>>>>
>
>
>>>> system. I can't even get Ghost to recognize the new drive in order to
>>>>
>
>
>>>> recover a backup drive image I had which was relatively
>>>> recent.........and I don't want to use that drive image anyway because
>>>>
> it
>
>>>> probably is infested with bugs.
>>>>
>>>> I'm typing this from my other office machine that is protected by
>>>> PC-cillin which seems to work OK. I want to protect this new system in
>>>>
> a
>
>>>> very serious way. I don't want to have to deal with this crap again.
>>>>
> What
>
>>>> do you guys reccommend?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Deej
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> --
>>> Chris Ludwig
>>>
>>> ADK Pro Audio
>>> (859) 635-5762
>>> www.adkproaudio.com
>>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>>>
>>
>
>

--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762

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