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| Has this ever happened to you? [message #75583] |
Tue, 07 November 2006 20:53  |
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So I'm working on this project tonight, recording 6 singers on 3 mics, for
a total of 4 passes saved. 12 tracks. The last take was the best, so we
went to work tweaking, tuning, slipping and sliding to match phrasing w/
old vocals. An hour and a half later we're done tweaking, it's time to begin
mixing. I begin playback from the top. The new tracks aren't playing.
I look at the edit window. All the new tracks and little rendered sections
where I tuned are blank. I open the audio window thinking that somehaow
Paris has lost track of their locations. I search for files. The last take's
3 tracks are gone, as are most of the tuned/tweaked bits and pieces. All
that remain are the little files from using the Paris pitch shift function
(which I sometimes do when AutoTune can't or won't work - like tuning a track
w/ 2 or 3 voices on it).
I look at my client (fortunately a good friend and very philosophical kind
of guy) and say "I wish I could offer you something more than an apology,
but the tracks are gone." I tried scavenging the disk w/ Disk Warrior (I'm
a Mac guy) to no avail. As I write this Norton Utilities is searching for
.paf files. I have at least one other option for looking for deleted files,
but for some reason I'm not feeling overly optimistic.
Has anything like this ever happened to any of you folks? Could this be
a sector of my HD suddenly gone bad? Is there some Paris bug that deletes
files if you hit a certain key sequence?
Thanks...
Gantt
Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com
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| Re: Has this ever happened to you? [message #75584 is a reply to message #75583] |
Tue, 07 November 2006 20:29  |
AlexPlasko
Messages: 211
Registered: September 2006
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That HAS happened to me a few times also . after saving a project ,and
opening it a few days later . some files just vanished, i know i didnt
delete them . search for files came up empty.they were all on the same drive
too.
I guess paris didnt like those tracks:-)
"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> So I'm working on this project tonight, recording 6 singers on 3 mics, for
> a total of 4 passes saved. 12 tracks. The last take was the best, so we
> went to work tweaking, tuning, slipping and sliding to match phrasing w/
> old vocals. An hour and a half later we're done tweaking, it's time to
> begin
> mixing. I begin playback from the top. The new tracks aren't playing.
> I look at the edit window. All the new tracks and little rendered
> sections
> where I tuned are blank. I open the audio window thinking that somehaow
> Paris has lost track of their locations. I search for files. The last
> take's
> 3 tracks are gone, as are most of the tuned/tweaked bits and pieces. All
> that remain are the little files from using the Paris pitch shift function
> (which I sometimes do when AutoTune can't or won't work - like tuning a
> track
> w/ 2 or 3 voices on it).
>
> I look at my client (fortunately a good friend and very philosophical kind
> of guy) and say "I wish I could offer you something more than an apology,
> but the tracks are gone." I tried scavenging the disk w/ Disk Warrior
> (I'm
> a Mac guy) to no avail. As I write this Norton Utilities is searching for
> paf files. I have at least one other option for looking for deleted
> files,
> but for some reason I'm not feeling overly optimistic.
>
> Has anything like this ever happened to any of you folks? Could this be
> a sector of my HD suddenly gone bad? Is there some Paris bug that deletes
> files if you hit a certain key sequence?
>
> Thanks...
>
> Gantt
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>
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| Re: Has this ever happened to you? [message #75585 is a reply to message #75583] |
Tue, 07 November 2006 20:33 |
Dubya Mark Wilson
Messages: 108
Registered: May 2006
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Easy Recovery Pro from Ontrack. Gets'm back everytime. Unfortunately,
you're MAC.
If you find something that works as well, I highly recommend getting that
drive removed as OS drive and set it up as something other than and making
sure that there is zero raiding going on with it. If installed as the OS
drive, you're writing to it everytime you boot and everytime you make a move
to recover.
W. Mark Wilson
www.ontrack.com/easyrecoveryprofessional
"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:455154b5$1@linux...
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> So I'm working on this project tonight, recording 6 singers on 3 mics, for
> a total of 4 passes saved. 12 tracks. The last take was the best, so we
> went to work tweaking, tuning, slipping and sliding to match phrasing w/
> old vocals. An hour and a half later we're done tweaking, it's time to
> begin
> mixing. I begin playback from the top. The new tracks aren't playing.
> I look at the edit window. All the new tracks and little rendered
> sections
> where I tuned are blank. I open the audio window thinking that somehaow
> Paris has lost track of their locations. I search for files. The last
> take's
> 3 tracks are gone, as are most of the tuned/tweaked bits and pieces. All
> that remain are the little files from using the Paris pitch shift function
> (which I sometimes do when AutoTune can't or won't work - like tuning a
> track
> w/ 2 or 3 voices on it).
>
> I look at my client (fortunately a good friend and very philosophical kind
> of guy) and say "I wish I could offer you something more than an apology,
> but the tracks are gone." I tried scavenging the disk w/ Disk Warrior
> (I'm
> a Mac guy) to no avail. As I write this Norton Utilities is searching for
> paf files. I have at least one other option for looking for deleted
> files,
> but for some reason I'm not feeling overly optimistic.
>
> Has anything like this ever happened to any of you folks? Could this be
> a sector of my HD suddenly gone bad? Is there some Paris bug that deletes
> files if you hit a certain key sequence?
>
> Thanks...
>
> Gantt
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>
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| Re: Has this ever happened to you? [message #75588 is a reply to message #75583] |
Wed, 08 November 2006 01:54 |
rick
Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006
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not on a pc but it has happened a couple of times on the mac and i
have no idea why. sorry to hear it. you did search your boot drive
too as macs will put them in the library user or global folder. i've
also found that mac finds don't always work the first few searches
especially if the search phrase isn't exactly (case sensitive) the
same.
On 8 Nov 2006 14:53:25 +1000, "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net>
wrote:
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>So I'm working on this project tonight, recording 6 singers on 3 mics, for
>a total of 4 passes saved. 12 tracks. The last take was the best, so we
>went to work tweaking, tuning, slipping and sliding to match phrasing w/
>old vocals. An hour and a half later we're done tweaking, it's time to begin
>mixing. I begin playback from the top. The new tracks aren't playing.
>I look at the edit window. All the new tracks and little rendered sections
>where I tuned are blank. I open the audio window thinking that somehaow
>Paris has lost track of their locations. I search for files. The last take's
>3 tracks are gone, as are most of the tuned/tweaked bits and pieces. All
>that remain are the little files from using the Paris pitch shift function
>(which I sometimes do when AutoTune can't or won't work - like tuning a track
>w/ 2 or 3 voices on it).
>
>I look at my client (fortunately a good friend and very philosophical kind
>of guy) and say "I wish I could offer you something more than an apology,
>but the tracks are gone." I tried scavenging the disk w/ Disk Warrior (I'm
>a Mac guy) to no avail. As I write this Norton Utilities is searching for
>paf files. I have at least one other option for looking for deleted files,
>but for some reason I'm not feeling overly optimistic.
>
>Has anything like this ever happened to any of you folks? Could this be
>a sector of my HD suddenly gone bad? Is there some Paris bug that deletes
>files if you hit a certain key sequence?
>
>Thanks...
>
>Gantt
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| Re: Has this ever happened to you? [message #75589 is a reply to message #75583] |
Wed, 08 November 2006 02:14 |
JeffH
Messages: 307
Registered: October 2007
Location: Wamic, OR
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Had a project lose edits and audio files before, but never not had the
files still there. Happpened on a couple of them. THought I'd lost it
all, but went back and found the audio takes by searching on the time/
date stamp.
Don't know of any "keystroke" that could cause it.
JH
Gantt Kushner wrote:
> So I'm working on this project tonight, recording 6 singers on 3 mics, for
> a total of 4 passes saved. 12 tracks. The last take was the best, so we
> went to work tweaking, tuning, slipping and sliding to match phrasing w/
> old vocals. An hour and a half later we're done tweaking, it's time to begin
> mixing. I begin playback from the top. The new tracks aren't playing.
> I look at the edit window. All the new tracks and little rendered sections
> where I tuned are blank. I open the audio window thinking that somehaow
> Paris has lost track of their locations. I search for files. The last take's
> 3 tracks are gone, as are most of the tuned/tweaked bits and pieces. All
> that remain are the little files from using the Paris pitch shift function
> (which I sometimes do when AutoTune can't or won't work - like tuning a track
> w/ 2 or 3 voices on it).
>
> I look at my client (fortunately a good friend and very philosophical kind
> of guy) and say "I wish I could offer you something more than an apology,
> but the tracks are gone." I tried scavenging the disk w/ Disk Warrior (I'm
> a Mac guy) to no avail. As I write this Norton Utilities is searching for
> .paf files. I have at least one other option for looking for deleted files,
> but for some reason I'm not feeling overly optimistic.
>
> Has anything like this ever happened to any of you folks? Could this be
> a sector of my HD suddenly gone bad? Is there some Paris bug that deletes
> files if you hit a certain key sequence?
>
> Thanks...
>
> Gantt
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| Re: Has this ever happened to you? [message #75593 is a reply to message #75589] |
Wed, 08 November 2006 06:57 |
neil[1]
Messages: 164
Registered: October 2006
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I do recall something like this happening once (IIRC, I had
done some punches & next time I opened up that project the
punched-in segments were missing), but in my case
it was a drive going bad... had some bad sectors on it. Only
time I ever had a W-D drive go bad on me.
Gantt, did you already scan the drive for any bad sectors?
If there are any bad ones, there's a way to isolate that section
so that it doesn't try to write anything further to those
regions, so that you can finish the project without having
to move everything to a new drive right away. I forget how to
do it, but surely someone here knows this method.
Neil
Jeff hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>Had a project lose edits and audio files before, but never not had the
>files still there. Happpened on a couple of them. THought I'd lost it
>all, but went back and found the audio takes by searching on the time/
>date stamp.
>
>Don't know of any "keystroke" that could cause it.
>
>JH
>
>Gantt Kushner wrote:
>> So I'm working on this project tonight, recording 6 singers on 3 mics,
for
>> a total of 4 passes saved. 12 tracks. The last take was the best, so
we
>> went to work tweaking, tuning, slipping and sliding to match phrasing
w/
>> old vocals. An hour and a half later we're done tweaking, it's time to
begin
>> mixing. I begin playback from the top. The new tracks aren't playing.
>> I look at the edit window. All the new tracks and little rendered sections
>> where I tuned are blank. I open the audio window thinking that somehaow
>> Paris has lost track of their locations. I search for files. The last
take's
>> 3 tracks are gone, as are most of the tuned/tweaked bits and pieces.
All
>> that remain are the little files from using the Paris pitch shift function
>> (which I sometimes do when AutoTune can't or won't work - like tuning
a track
>> w/ 2 or 3 voices on it).
>>
>> I look at my client (fortunately a good friend and very philosophical
kind
>> of guy) and say "I wish I could offer you something more than an apology,
>> but the tracks are gone." I tried scavenging the disk w/ Disk Warrior
(I'm
>> a Mac guy) to no avail. As I write this Norton Utilities is searching
for
>> .paf files. I have at least one other option for looking for deleted
files,
>> but for some reason I'm not feeling overly optimistic.
>>
>> Has anything like this ever happened to any of you folks? Could this
be
>> a sector of my HD suddenly gone bad? Is there some Paris bug that deletes
>> files if you hit a certain key sequence?
>>
>> Thanks...
>>
>> Gantt
>>
>>
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