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Wed, 24 January 2007 17:11  |
Paul Braun
Messages: 391
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I may be taking a long break from the theatre (certain people down
there are sucking all the fun out of it....) and expanding our
acoustic concert series into other venues.
Obviously, my second Paris rig won't be staying up in the treehouse
where it's been living for the past 5 years or so.
I'd like to make it into a mobile rig that would fit into no more than
two rack cases - cpu, MEC, two lcd's, keyboard & mouse.
Problem is, I'm a Mac guy. I've been looking on *bay for the Marathon
G-rack to rackmount a G4, but since they're discontinued, they are now
stupid money. Really stupid.
Hacking the motherboard into a rackmount ATX case is a huge PITA.
I suppose I could just lay it on its side on a rack shelf and make
straps to tie it down.
Or, I could use the rack case I already have, throw an AMD board and
Athlon chip, and run the mobile rig on XP or 98, then mix at home on
the Mac here.
As long as I use fat32 on my firewire drives, do you see any problems
doing that?
I have had such good luck with the Macs - typically, I'm tracking 8 or
more tracks for 2 hours straight during a concert and nary a hiccup.
Or does someone have an unused G-rack lying around that they'd be
willing to sell to me for significantly less than stupid, just because
I'm a really nice guy?
If I had access to one, a friend of mine owns a machine shop and could
whip something up, but he's never seen one.
Thanks.
pab
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| Re: Thinking of making a mobile rig... need suggestions [message #78947 is a reply to message #78945] |
Wed, 24 January 2007 18:51  |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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You could build your own brackets. I've been thinking about doing a business
and G4 brackets would be one of the products. Only they would steel power
coat, and cost under $50.00.
James
Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>I may be taking a long break from the theatre (certain people down
>there are sucking all the fun out of it....) and expanding our
>acoustic concert series into other venues.
>
>Obviously, my second Paris rig won't be staying up in the treehouse
>where it's been living for the past 5 years or so.
>
>I'd like to make it into a mobile rig that would fit into no more than
>two rack cases - cpu, MEC, two lcd's, keyboard & mouse.
>
>Problem is, I'm a Mac guy. I've been looking on *bay for the Marathon
>G-rack to rackmount a G4, but since they're discontinued, they are now
>stupid money. Really stupid.
>
>Hacking the motherboard into a rackmount ATX case is a huge PITA.
>
>I suppose I could just lay it on its side on a rack shelf and make
>straps to tie it down.
>
>Or, I could use the rack case I already have, throw an AMD board and
>Athlon chip, and run the mobile rig on XP or 98, then mix at home on
>the Mac here.
>
>As long as I use fat32 on my firewire drives, do you see any problems
>doing that?
>
>I have had such good luck with the Macs - typically, I'm tracking 8 or
>more tracks for 2 hours straight during a concert and nary a hiccup.
>
>Or does someone have an unused G-rack lying around that they'd be
>willing to sell to me for significantly less than stupid, just because
>I'm a really nice guy?
>
>If I had access to one, a friend of mine owns a machine shop and could
>whip something up, but he's never seen one.
>
>Thanks.
>
>pab
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| Re: Thinking of making a mobile rig... need suggestions [message #78948 is a reply to message #78945] |
Wed, 24 January 2007 17:57 |
Chris Ludwig
Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006
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HI Paul,
If you already have a G4 laying around then either having your machine
shop buddy or buying the marathon stuff will be the cheapest solution
either way.
You would have to buy a Computer MAC/PC otherwise which if you want to
use Paris to record with then your options will be really really limited.
You should maybe also consider a hard disk recorder. If you are doi0ng
24 tracks or under then they would probably be the most reliable of the
bunch.
Chris
Paul Braun wrote:
>I may be taking a long break from the theatre (certain people down
>there are sucking all the fun out of it....) and expanding our
>acoustic concert series into other venues.
>
>Obviously, my second Paris rig won't be staying up in the treehouse
>where it's been living for the past 5 years or so.
>
>I'd like to make it into a mobile rig that would fit into no more than
>two rack cases - cpu, MEC, two lcd's, keyboard & mouse.
>
>Problem is, I'm a Mac guy. I've been looking on *bay for the Marathon
>G-rack to rackmount a G4, but since they're discontinued, they are now
>stupid money. Really stupid.
>
>Hacking the motherboard into a rackmount ATX case is a huge PITA.
>
>I suppose I could just lay it on its side on a rack shelf and make
>straps to tie it down.
>
>Or, I could use the rack case I already have, throw an AMD board and
>Athlon chip, and run the mobile rig on XP or 98, then mix at home on
>the Mac here.
>
>As long as I use fat32 on my firewire drives, do you see any problems
>doing that?
>
>I have had such good luck with the Macs - typically, I'm tracking 8 or
>more tracks for 2 hours straight during a concert and nary a hiccup.
>
>Or does someone have an unused G-rack lying around that they'd be
>willing to sell to me for significantly less than stupid, just because
>I'm a really nice guy?
>
>If I had access to one, a friend of mine owns a machine shop and could
>whip something up, but he's never seen one.
>
>Thanks.
>
>pab
>
>
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Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762
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| Re: Thinking of making a mobile rig... need suggestions [message #78950 is a reply to message #78948] |
Wed, 24 January 2007 18:24 |
Paul Braun
Messages: 391
Registered: September 2005
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On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 20:57:57 -0500, Chris Ludwig
<chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>HI Paul,
>
>If you already have a G4 laying around then either having your machine
>shop buddy or buying the marathon stuff will be the cheapest solution
>either way.
>You would have to buy a Computer MAC/PC otherwise which if you want to
>use Paris to record with then your options will be really really limited.
>You should maybe also consider a hard disk recorder. If you are doi0ng
>24 tracks or under then they would probably be the most reliable of the
>bunch.
>
Right now, I'm running one card on a beige G3/300 desktop - I just
wanted to up the horsepower a bit and add a second card possibly.
I think I have a motherboard and a reasonably fast Athlon on the
shelf, so building a windows pc wouldn't cost that much.
Yeah, a HD recorder would probably be easiest and lightest, but
ultimately, considering what I already have, a lot more $$$.
But I'll consider it.
pab
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| Re: Thinking of making a mobile rig... need suggestions [message #78978 is a reply to message #78945] |
Thu, 25 January 2007 08:05 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
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I'd say a rack strip and two pieces of velcro would do the trick. Not pretty
but you didn't ask for that.
As an alternative I'd think about a laptop. I'm keeping quiet about it because
I'm still stress testing, but I just set up a $500 (yes, $500) laptop with
an RME cardbus card that is doing astonishing things. You might be able to
record with laptop + RME cardbus/firewire and then fly the tracks over to
PARIS via lightpipe.
I know this isn't not the best place to be saying this, but native is looking
really impressive these days. I bought the $500 laptop on the theory that
I could take it out live and not care too much if I broke it. This was after
watching my work laptop fall off a stand while on stage, with me wondering
if I had backups of my perl code or not. But this crappy little machine is
something else. Again, I'll stress test it and see what I can find out, but
think about that as an option.
TCB
Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>I may be taking a long break from the theatre (certain people down
>there are sucking all the fun out of it....) and expanding our
>acoustic concert series into other venues.
>
>Obviously, my second Paris rig won't be staying up in the treehouse
>where it's been living for the past 5 years or so.
>
>I'd like to make it into a mobile rig that would fit into no more than
>two rack cases - cpu, MEC, two lcd's, keyboard & mouse.
>
>Problem is, I'm a Mac guy. I've been looking on *bay for the Marathon
>G-rack to rackmount a G4, but since they're discontinued, they are now
>stupid money. Really stupid.
>
>Hacking the motherboard into a rackmount ATX case is a huge PITA.
>
>I suppose I could just lay it on its side on a rack shelf and make
>straps to tie it down.
>
>Or, I could use the rack case I already have, throw an AMD board and
>Athlon chip, and run the mobile rig on XP or 98, then mix at home on
>the Mac here.
>
>As long as I use fat32 on my firewire drives, do you see any problems
>doing that?
>
>I have had such good luck with the Macs - typically, I'm tracking 8 or
>more tracks for 2 hours straight during a concert and nary a hiccup.
>
>Or does someone have an unused G-rack lying around that they'd be
>willing to sell to me for significantly less than stupid, just because
>I'm a really nice guy?
>
>If I had access to one, a friend of mine owns a machine shop and could
>whip something up, but he's never seen one.
>
>Thanks.
>
>pab
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| Re: Thinking of making a mobile rig... need suggestions [message #78980 is a reply to message #78978] |
Thu, 25 January 2007 08:26 |
Rich[3]
Messages: 132
Registered: January 2006
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What Laptop (model and spec's) are you using? Tracking in Cubase or?
Thanks!!!
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
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>I'd say a rack strip and two pieces of velcro would do the trick. Not pretty
>but you didn't ask for that.
>
>As an alternative I'd think about a laptop. I'm keeping quiet about it because
>I'm still stress testing, but I just set up a $500 (yes, $500) laptop with
>an RME cardbus card that is doing astonishing things. You might be able
to
>record with laptop + RME cardbus/firewire and then fly the tracks over to
>PARIS via lightpipe.
>
>I know this isn't not the best place to be saying this, but native is looking
>really impressive these days. I bought the $500 laptop on the theory that
>I could take it out live and not care too much if I broke it. This was after
>watching my work laptop fall off a stand while on stage, with me wondering
>if I had backups of my perl code or not. But this crappy little machine
is
>something else. Again, I'll stress test it and see what I can find out,
but
>think about that as an option.
>
>TCB
>
>Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>>I may be taking a long break from the theatre (certain people down
>>there are sucking all the fun out of it....) and expanding our
>>acoustic concert series into other venues.
>>
>>Obviously, my second Paris rig won't be staying up in the treehouse
>>where it's been living for the past 5 years or so.
>>
>>I'd like to make it into a mobile rig that would fit into no more than
>>two rack cases - cpu, MEC, two lcd's, keyboard & mouse.
>>
>>Problem is, I'm a Mac guy. I've been looking on *bay for the Marathon
>>G-rack to rackmount a G4, but since they're discontinued, they are now
>>stupid money. Really stupid.
>>
>>Hacking the motherboard into a rackmount ATX case is a huge PITA.
>>
>>I suppose I could just lay it on its side on a rack shelf and make
>>straps to tie it down.
>>
>>Or, I could use the rack case I already have, throw an AMD board and
>>Athlon chip, and run the mobile rig on XP or 98, then mix at home on
>>the Mac here.
>>
>>As long as I use fat32 on my firewire drives, do you see any problems
>>doing that?
>>
>>I have had such good luck with the Macs - typically, I'm tracking 8 or
>>more tracks for 2 hours straight during a concert and nary a hiccup.
>>
>>Or does someone have an unused G-rack lying around that they'd be
>>willing to sell to me for significantly less than stupid, just because
>>I'm a really nice guy?
>>
>>If I had access to one, a friend of mine owns a machine shop and could
>>whip something up, but he's never seen one.
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>pab
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| Re: Thinking of making a mobile rig... need suggestions [message #78987 is a reply to message #78980] |
Thu, 25 January 2007 09:54 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
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Not saying yet, until I work with it a bit more. It will be shocking if it
keeps working like this.
TCB
"rich" <studiodog_99@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>What Laptop (model and spec's) are you using? Tracking in Cubase or?
>
>Thanks!!!
>
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>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>
>>I'd say a rack strip and two pieces of velcro would do the trick. Not pretty
>>but you didn't ask for that.
>>
>>As an alternative I'd think about a laptop. I'm keeping quiet about it
because
>>I'm still stress testing, but I just set up a $500 (yes, $500) laptop with
>>an RME cardbus card that is doing astonishing things. You might be able
>to
>>record with laptop + RME cardbus/firewire and then fly the tracks over
to
>>PARIS via lightpipe.
>>
>>I know this isn't not the best place to be saying this, but native is looking
>>really impressive these days. I bought the $500 laptop on the theory that
>>I could take it out live and not care too much if I broke it. This was
after
>>watching my work laptop fall off a stand while on stage, with me wondering
>>if I had backups of my perl code or not. But this crappy little machine
>is
>>something else. Again, I'll stress test it and see what I can find out,
>but
>>think about that as an option.
>>
>>TCB
>>
>>Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>>>I may be taking a long break from the theatre (certain people down
>>>there are sucking all the fun out of it....) and expanding our
>>>acoustic concert series into other venues.
>>>
>>>Obviously, my second Paris rig won't be staying up in the treehouse
>>>where it's been living for the past 5 years or so.
>>>
>>>I'd like to make it into a mobile rig that would fit into no more than
>>>two rack cases - cpu, MEC, two lcd's, keyboard & mouse.
>>>
>>>Problem is, I'm a Mac guy. I've been looking on *bay for the Marathon
>>>G-rack to rackmount a G4, but since they're discontinued, they are now
>>>stupid money. Really stupid.
>>>
>>>Hacking the motherboard into a rackmount ATX case is a huge PITA.
>>>
>>>I suppose I could just lay it on its side on a rack shelf and make
>>>straps to tie it down.
>>>
>>>Or, I could use the rack case I already have, throw an AMD board and
>>>Athlon chip, and run the mobile rig on XP or 98, then mix at home on
>>>the Mac here.
>>>
>>>As long as I use fat32 on my firewire drives, do you see any problems
>>>doing that?
>>>
>>>I have had such good luck with the Macs - typically, I'm tracking 8 or
>>>more tracks for 2 hours straight during a concert and nary a hiccup.
>>>
>>>Or does someone have an unused G-rack lying around that they'd be
>>>willing to sell to me for significantly less than stupid, just because
>>>I'm a really nice guy?
>>>
>>>If I had access to one, a friend of mine owns a machine shop and could
>>>whip something up, but he's never seen one.
>>>
>>>Thanks.
>>>
>>>pab
>>
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| Re: Thinking of making a mobile rig... need suggestions [message #78991 is a reply to message #78987] |
Thu, 25 January 2007 11:29 |
Rich[3]
Messages: 132
Registered: January 2006
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OK - I'm really interested in hearing this (I'm sure I'm not the only one)...
Thanks in advance!!
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
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>Not saying yet, until I work with it a bit more. It will be shocking if
it
>keeps working like this.
>
>TCB
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>"rich" <studiodog_99@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>What Laptop (model and spec's) are you using? Tracking in Cubase or?
>>
>>Thanks!!!
>>
>>
>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>I'd say a rack strip and two pieces of velcro would do the trick. Not
pretty
>>>but you didn't ask for that.
>>>
>>>As an alternative I'd think about a laptop. I'm keeping quiet about it
>because
>>>I'm still stress testing, but I just set up a $500 (yes, $500) laptop
with
>>>an RME cardbus card that is doing astonishing things. You might be able
>>to
>>>record with laptop + RME cardbus/firewire and then fly the tracks over
>to
>>>PARIS via lightpipe.
>>>
>>>I know this isn't not the best place to be saying this, but native is
looking
>>>really impressive these days. I bought the $500 laptop on the theory that
>>>I could take it out live and not care too much if I broke it. This was
>after
>>>watching my work laptop fall off a stand while on stage, with me wondering
>>>if I had backups of my perl code or not. But this crappy little machine
>>is
>>>something else. Again, I'll stress test it and see what I can find out,
>>but
>>>think about that as an option.
>>>
>>>TCB
>>>
>>>Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>>>>I may be taking a long break from the theatre (certain people down
>>>>there are sucking all the fun out of it....) and expanding our
>>>>acoustic concert series into other venues.
>>>>
>>>>Obviously, my second Paris rig won't be staying up in the treehouse
>>>>where it's been living for the past 5 years or so.
>>>>
>>>>I'd like to make it into a mobile rig that would fit into no more than
>>>>two rack cases - cpu, MEC, two lcd's, keyboard & mouse.
>>>>
>>>>Problem is, I'm a Mac guy. I've been looking on *bay for the Marathon
>>>>G-rack to rackmount a G4, but since they're discontinued, they are now
>>>>stupid money. Really stupid.
>>>>
>>>>Hacking the motherboard into a rackmount ATX case is a huge PITA.
>>>>
>>>>I suppose I could just lay it on its side on a rack shelf and make
>>>>straps to tie it down.
>>>>
>>>>Or, I could use the rack case I already have, throw an AMD board and
>>>>Athlon chip, and run the mobile rig on XP or 98, then mix at home on
>>>>the Mac here.
>>>>
>>>>As long as I use fat32 on my firewire drives, do you see any problems
>>>>doing that?
>>>>
>>>>I have had such good luck with the Macs - typically, I'm tracking 8 or
>>>>more tracks for 2 hours straight during a concert and nary a hiccup.
>>>>
>>>>Or does someone have an unused G-rack lying around that they'd be
>>>>willing to sell to me for significantly less than stupid, just because
>>>>I'm a really nice guy?
>>>>
>>>>If I had access to one, a friend of mine owns a machine shop and could
>>>>whip something up, but he's never seen one.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>pab
>>>
>>
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