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Anyone using Paris & Cubase on the same computer?(not necessarily at the same time) [message #62954] Thu, 12 January 2006 10:43 Go to next message
Pete Ruthenburg is currently offline  Pete Ruthenburg   
Messages: 127
Registered: June 2005
Senior Member
So is anyone doing this.I'm assuming on the same computer you
couldn't run them at the same time;although I remember running
Studio Vision synced to Paris on the same comp back in the day.

I'm wanting to get more midi and vsti stuff happening,but at
this point I don't want to spend the buck on an extra computer
and interface it with my Paris comp.I don't want to venture into
DJ LAND(echo,echo,echo) ;)I love ya Deej and all,but don't want
to deal with all that right now.

So could I get some stuff happening in Cubase then bounce it
and bring it into Paris for audio and mixing?Anyone doing this?

THanks,
Pete
Re: Anyone using Paris & Cubase on the same computer?(not necessarily at the same time) [message #62960 is a reply to message #62954] Thu, 12 January 2006 10:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jorsi is currently offline  Jorsi   GREENLAND
Messages: 23
Registered: December 2005
Junior Member
Yes! you can use Paris and Cubase on the same PC at the same time!! all you
need to have is another sound-card for Cubase.
I've been using Paris and Cubase for years without probs.

Hope it helps
Jorsi

"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> skrev i en meddelelse
news:43c69535$1@linux...
>
> So is anyone doing this.I'm assuming on the same computer you
> couldn't run them at the same time;although I remember running
> Studio Vision synced to Paris on the same comp back in the day.
>
> I'm wanting to get more midi and vsti stuff happening,but at
> this point I don't want to spend the buck on an extra computer
> and interface it with my Paris comp.I don't want to venture into
> DJ LAND(echo,echo,echo) ;)I love ya Deej and all,but don't want
> to deal with all that right now.
>
> So could I get some stuff happening in Cubase then bounce it
> and bring it into Paris for audio and mixing?Anyone doing this?
>
> THanks,
> Pete
Re: Anyone using Paris & Cubase on the same computer?(not necessarily at the same time) [message #62961 is a reply to message #62954] Thu, 12 January 2006 11:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
duncan is currently offline  duncan   UNITED STATES
Messages: 123
Registered: November 2006
Senior Member
I did this for several years, as did many others... I ran Cubase out
to an RME card slaved to incoming ADAT timecode from Paris... Worked
okay for a while -- and this was on an 800Mhz Athlon with maybe 256
RAM... I'm sure you could work something out -- you'll need an extra
soundcard in there, obviously... I mean, something other than Paris.
Then you pipe the output back to your MEC in whatever form --S'Pdif,
adat, analogue, whatever -- for monitoring in Paris. I never tried
this on one computer under XP, by the way. Probably would be at least
as good or better. My set-up now is Paris on 98SE sending ADAT sync
to another computer running Cubase SX3 (under XP, of course)... Works
okay for my needs these days.

Short answer is -- yes. (but the long answer is at least...
longer...)

-- good luck -- Chas


On 13 Jan 2006 04:43:17 +1000, "Pete Ruthenburg"
<ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>
> So is anyone doing this.I'm assuming on the same computer you
>couldn't run them at the same time;although I remember running
>Studio Vision synced to Paris on the same comp back in the day.
>
> I'm wanting to get more midi and vsti stuff happening,but at
>this point I don't want to spend the buck on an extra computer
>and interface it with my Paris comp.I don't want to venture into
>DJ LAND(echo,echo,echo) ;)I love ya Deej and all,but don't want
>to deal with all that right now.
>
> So could I get some stuff happening in Cubase then bounce it
>and bring it into Paris for audio and mixing?Anyone doing this?
>
>THanks,
>Pete
Re: Anyone using Paris & Cubase on the same computer?(not necessarily at the same time) [message #62962 is a reply to message #62960] Thu, 12 January 2006 12:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Pete Ruthenburg is currently offline  Pete Ruthenburg   
Messages: 127
Registered: June 2005
Senior Member
Hey Jorsi,cool.How are you using it?Are you doing midi type stuff
in Cubase synched to Paris.Doing any VTSi stuff?UAD-1 at all in
Cubase?

I guess its all relative as to what you can and can't do and
would just require some experimentation as far as the number of
VSTi plugs and effects plugs that can be run.

Thanks for the info,
Pete
"Jorsi" <studios@greennet.gl> wrote:
>Yes! you can use Paris and Cubase on the same PC at the same time!! all
you
>need to have is another sound-card for Cubase.
>I've been using Paris and Cubase for years without probs.
>
>Hope it helps
>Jorsi
>
>"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> skrev i en meddelelse
>news:43c69535$1@linux...
>>
>> So is anyone doing this.I'm assuming on the same computer you
>> couldn't run them at the same time;although I remember running
>> Studio Vision synced to Paris on the same comp back in the day.
>>
>> I'm wanting to get more midi and vsti stuff happening,but at
>> this point I don't want to spend the buck on an extra computer
>> and interface it with my Paris comp.I don't want to venture into
>> DJ LAND(echo,echo,echo) ;)I love ya Deej and all,but don't want
>> to deal with all that right now.
>>
>> So could I get some stuff happening in Cubase then bounce it
>> and bring it into Paris for audio and mixing?Anyone doing this?
>>
>> THanks,
>> Pete
>
>
Re: Anyone using Paris & Cubase on the same computer?(not necessarily at the same time) [message #62963 is a reply to message #62962] Thu, 12 January 2006 11:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jorsi is currently offline  Jorsi   GREENLAND
Messages: 23
Registered: December 2005
Junior Member
The good thing about paris is that it does not need much of the cpu unless
you are using a lot of plug-ins, so you can use Cubase as the midi and audio
editing tool; run vst instruments like sampler, reason. you can can sync
Cubase and paris through midi, if you have adat-card in paris you can send
what you have recorded in paris to Cubase and do some editing and send it
back to Paris.
DJ have done a lot of experiment on this!! if you want to know more you can
search on this NG about it.

Hope it helps

Jorsi

"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> skrev i en meddelelse
news:43c6a9a3$1@linux...
>
> Hey Jorsi,cool.How are you using it?Are you doing midi type stuff
> in Cubase synched to Paris.Doing any VTSi stuff?UAD-1 at all in
> Cubase?
>
> I guess its all relative as to what you can and can't do and
> would just require some experimentation as far as the number of
> VSTi plugs and effects plugs that can be run.
>
> Thanks for the info,
> Pete
> "Jorsi" <studios@greennet.gl> wrote:
>>Yes! you can use Paris and Cubase on the same PC at the same time!! all
> you
>>need to have is another sound-card for Cubase.
>>I've been using Paris and Cubase for years without probs.
>>
>>Hope it helps
>>Jorsi
>>
>>"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> skrev i en meddelelse
>>news:43c69535$1@linux...
>>>
>>> So is anyone doing this.I'm assuming on the same computer you
>>> couldn't run them at the same time;although I remember running
>>> Studio Vision synced to Paris on the same comp back in the day.
>>>
>>> I'm wanting to get more midi and vsti stuff happening,but at
>>> this point I don't want to spend the buck on an extra computer
>>> and interface it with my Paris comp.I don't want to venture into
>>> DJ LAND(echo,echo,echo) ;)I love ya Deej and all,but don't want
>>> to deal with all that right now.
>>>
>>> So could I get some stuff happening in Cubase then bounce it
>>> and bring it into Paris for audio and mixing?Anyone doing this?
>>>
>>> THanks,
>>> Pete
>>
>>
>
Re: Anyone using Paris & Cubase on the same computer?(not necessarily at the same time) [message #62986 is a reply to message #62961] Thu, 12 January 2006 21:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
Senior Member
I can tell you that Vegas 4 won't do it :)
BSOD every time, I gave it up after a while and just sync'd one of the other
10 or so PC's I had laying around at the time.
AA


"Chas. Duncan" <duncan5199ATsbcglobalDOTnet@> wrote in message
news:cn9ds1l7ku0mjs36duia58a4cevvl39kj3@4ax.com...
>
> I did this for several years, as did many others... I ran Cubase out
> to an RME card slaved to incoming ADAT timecode from Paris... Worked
> okay for a while -- and this was on an 800Mhz Athlon with maybe 256
> RAM... I'm sure you could work something out -- you'll need an extra
> soundcard in there, obviously... I mean, something other than Paris.
> Then you pipe the output back to your MEC in whatever form --S'Pdif,
> adat, analogue, whatever -- for monitoring in Paris. I never tried
> this on one computer under XP, by the way. Probably would be at least
> as good or better. My set-up now is Paris on 98SE sending ADAT sync
> to another computer running Cubase SX3 (under XP, of course)... Works
> okay for my needs these days.
>
> Short answer is -- yes. (but the long answer is at least...
> longer...)
>
> -- good luck -- Chas
>
>
> On 13 Jan 2006 04:43:17 +1000, "Pete Ruthenburg"
> <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> So is anyone doing this.I'm assuming on the same computer you
>>couldn't run them at the same time;although I remember running
>>Studio Vision synced to Paris on the same comp back in the day.
>>
>> I'm wanting to get more midi and vsti stuff happening,but at
>>this point I don't want to spend the buck on an extra computer
>>and interface it with my Paris comp.I don't want to venture into
>>DJ LAND(echo,echo,echo) ;)I love ya Deej and all,but don't want
>>to deal with all that right now.
>>
>> So could I get some stuff happening in Cubase then bounce it
>>and bring it into Paris for audio and mixing?Anyone doing this?
>>
>>THanks,
>>Pete
>
Re: Anyone using Paris & Cubase on the same computer?(not necessarily at the same time) [message #62989 is a reply to message #62986] Thu, 12 January 2006 22:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
espresso is currently offline  espresso   AUSTRALIA
Messages: 17
Registered: September 2005
Junior Member
I've just got around to installing wormhole2 on my machine and can report
that running Nuendo and Paris together seems to be a workable solution to
Nuendo (Steinberg) functionality plus Paris sound. I have tested with a full
32 ch Nuendo mix with many many plugs including UAD stuff and sending via 8
groups to Paris. It definitely works. I'm thinking the more channels into
Paris - the merrier - so still have to see what the outer limits are. My
machine (XP) is a P4 3.2g on ASUS mb.
Note - I'm not trying to run the 2 programs in sync (yet - I imagine there
are large latency issues) just trying to get Paris sound out of Nuendo.

David.

"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:43c73721$1@linux...
>I can tell you that Vegas 4 won't do it :)
> BSOD every time, I gave it up after a while and just sync'd one of the
> other 10 or so PC's I had laying around at the time.
> AA
>
>
> "Chas. Duncan" <duncan5199ATsbcglobalDOTnet@> wrote in message
> news:cn9ds1l7ku0mjs36duia58a4cevvl39kj3@4ax.com...
>>
>> I did this for several years, as did many others... I ran Cubase out
>> to an RME card slaved to incoming ADAT timecode from Paris... Worked
>> okay for a while -- and this was on an 800Mhz Athlon with maybe 256
>> RAM... I'm sure you could work something out -- you'll need an extra
>> soundcard in there, obviously... I mean, something other than Paris.
>> Then you pipe the output back to your MEC in whatever form --S'Pdif,
>> adat, analogue, whatever -- for monitoring in Paris. I never tried
>> this on one computer under XP, by the way. Probably would be at least
>> as good or better. My set-up now is Paris on 98SE sending ADAT sync
>> to another computer running Cubase SX3 (under XP, of course)... Works
>> okay for my needs these days.
>>
>> Short answer is -- yes. (but the long answer is at least...
>> longer...)
>>
>> -- good luck -- Chas
>>
>>
>> On 13 Jan 2006 04:43:17 +1000, "Pete Ruthenburg"
>> <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> So is anyone doing this.I'm assuming on the same computer you
>>>couldn't run them at the same time;although I remember running
>>>Studio Vision synced to Paris on the same comp back in the day.
>>>
>>> I'm wanting to get more midi and vsti stuff happening,but at
>>>this point I don't want to spend the buck on an extra computer
>>>and interface it with my Paris comp.I don't want to venture into
>>>DJ LAND(echo,echo,echo) ;)I love ya Deej and all,but don't want
>>>to deal with all that right now.
>>>
>>> So could I get some stuff happening in Cubase then bounce it
>>>and bring it into Paris for audio and mixing?Anyone doing this?
>>>
>>>THanks,
>>>Pete
>>
>
>
Re: Anyone using Paris & Cubase on the same computer?(not necessarily at the same time) [message #63012 is a reply to message #62989] Fri, 13 January 2006 08:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Pete Ruthenburg is currently offline  Pete Ruthenburg   
Messages: 127
Registered: June 2005
Senior Member
Thanks much for the info David.I haven't gotten into Wormhole yet
,but I plan to checl it out.So using wormhole your not using a
souncard of some kind for Nuendo into Paris,is that correct?Your
just doing it in the computer?

Thanks again,
Pete

"espresso" <audio@espressodigital.com> wrote:
>I've just got around to installing wormhole2 on my machine and can report

>that running Nuendo and Paris together seems to be a workable solution to

>Nuendo (Steinberg) functionality plus Paris sound. I have tested with a
full
>32 ch Nuendo mix with many many plugs including UAD stuff and sending via
8
>groups to Paris. It definitely works. I'm thinking the more channels into

>Paris - the merrier - so still have to see what the outer limits are. My

>machine (XP) is a P4 3.2g on ASUS mb.
>Note - I'm not trying to run the 2 programs in sync (yet - I imagine there

>are large latency issues) just trying to get Paris sound out of Nuendo.
>
>David.
>
>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>news:43c73721$1@linux...
>>I can tell you that Vegas 4 won't do it :)
>> BSOD every time, I gave it up after a while and just sync'd one of the

>> other 10 or so PC's I had laying around at the time.
>> AA
>>
>>
>> "Chas. Duncan" <duncan5199ATsbcglobalDOTnet@> wrote in message
>> news:cn9ds1l7ku0mjs36duia58a4cevvl39kj3@4ax.com...
>>>
>>> I did this for several years, as did many others... I ran Cubase out
>>> to an RME card slaved to incoming ADAT timecode from Paris... Worked
>>> okay for a while -- and this was on an 800Mhz Athlon with maybe 256
>>> RAM... I'm sure you could work something out -- you'll need an extra
>>> soundcard in there, obviously... I mean, something other than Paris.
>>> Then you pipe the output back to your MEC in whatever form --S'Pdif,
>>> adat, analogue, whatever -- for monitoring in Paris. I never tried
>>> this on one computer under XP, by the way. Probably would be at least
>>> as good or better. My set-up now is Paris on 98SE sending ADAT sync
>>> to another computer running Cubase SX3 (under XP, of course)... Works
>>> okay for my needs these days.
>>>
>>> Short answer is -- yes. (but the long answer is at least...
>>> longer...)
>>>
>>> -- good luck -- Chas
>>>
>>>
>>> On 13 Jan 2006 04:43:17 +1000, "Pete Ruthenburg"
>>> <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> So is anyone doing this.I'm assuming on the same computer you
>>>>couldn't run them at the same time;although I remember running
>>>>Studio Vision synced to Paris on the same comp back in the day.
>>>>
>>>> I'm wanting to get more midi and vsti stuff happening,but at
>>>>this point I don't want to spend the buck on an extra computer
>>>>and interface it with my Paris comp.I don't want to venture into
>>>>DJ LAND(echo,echo,echo) ;)I love ya Deej and all,but don't want
>>>>to deal with all that right now.
>>>>
>>>> So could I get some stuff happening in Cubase then bounce it
>>>>and bring it into Paris for audio and mixing?Anyone doing this?
>>>>
>>>>THanks,
>>>>Pete
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Anyone using Paris & Cubase on the same computer?(not necessarily at the same time) [message #63070 is a reply to message #63012] Sat, 14 January 2006 16:14 Go to previous message
espresso is currently offline  espresso   AUSTRALIA
Messages: 17
Registered: September 2005
Junior Member
Nuendo (and SX) needs a soundcard - asio compliant. I normally use the Paris
asio driver when I'm using Nuendo as I only do mixes and edits, as the
latency is pretty high ( I record in Paris). This is a problem when using
Nuendo and Paris together obviously. So for this excercise I just used a
generic asio driver with the onboard soundcard to run Nuendo - hey it
worked, but I now that I've 'proved' the idea I'm going to get either a
Tascam FW1884 to run with Nuendo ( and then Wormhole to Paris) or one of the
M-Audio roducts so that I have an option to bring in Protools sessions and
remain compatible with the rest of the world - something I find a need for
more and more lately.

To answer your question specifically - yes there are no external audio or
digital connections using Wormhole - just open up the 2 programs, setup as
many instances of the plug in each program as you need and you're good to
go. Note: you must run 'silent' tracks of audio in Paris to receive signal -
don't know why - just following Dimitrios' directions.

Cheers,

David.


"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:43c7c308$1@linux...
>
> Thanks much for the info David.I haven't gotten into Wormhole yet
> ,but I plan to checl it out.So using wormhole your not using a
> souncard of some kind for Nuendo into Paris,is that correct?Your
> just doing it in the computer?
>
> Thanks again,
> Pete
>
> "espresso" <audio@espressodigital.com> wrote:
> >I've just got around to installing wormhole2 on my machine and can report
>
> >that running Nuendo and Paris together seems to be a workable solution to
>
> >Nuendo (Steinberg) functionality plus Paris sound. I have tested with a
> full
> >32 ch Nuendo mix with many many plugs including UAD stuff and sending via
> 8
> >groups to Paris. It definitely works. I'm thinking the more channels into
>
> >Paris - the merrier - so still have to see what the outer limits are. My
>
> >machine (XP) is a P4 3.2g on ASUS mb.
> >Note - I'm not trying to run the 2 programs in sync (yet - I imagine
there
>
> >are large latency issues) just trying to get Paris sound out of Nuendo.
> >
> >David.
> >
> >"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
> >news:43c73721$1@linux...
> >>I can tell you that Vegas 4 won't do it :)
> >> BSOD every time, I gave it up after a while and just sync'd one of the
>
> >> other 10 or so PC's I had laying around at the time.
> >> AA
> >>
> >>
> >> "Chas. Duncan" <duncan5199ATsbcglobalDOTnet@> wrote in message
> >> news:cn9ds1l7ku0mjs36duia58a4cevvl39kj3@4ax.com...
> >>>
> >>> I did this for several years, as did many others... I ran Cubase out
> >>> to an RME card slaved to incoming ADAT timecode from Paris... Worked
> >>> okay for a while -- and this was on an 800Mhz Athlon with maybe 256
> >>> RAM... I'm sure you could work something out -- you'll need an extra
> >>> soundcard in there, obviously... I mean, something other than Paris.
> >>> Then you pipe the output back to your MEC in whatever form --S'Pdif,
> >>> adat, analogue, whatever -- for monitoring in Paris. I never tried
> >>> this on one computer under XP, by the way. Probably would be at least
> >>> as good or better. My set-up now is Paris on 98SE sending ADAT sync
> >>> to another computer running Cubase SX3 (under XP, of course)... Works
> >>> okay for my needs these days.
> >>>
> >>> Short answer is -- yes. (but the long answer is at least...
> >>> longer...)
> >>>
> >>> -- good luck -- Chas
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 13 Jan 2006 04:43:17 +1000, "Pete Ruthenburg"
> >>> <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> So is anyone doing this.I'm assuming on the same computer you
> >>>>couldn't run them at the same time;although I remember running
> >>>>Studio Vision synced to Paris on the same comp back in the day.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm wanting to get more midi and vsti stuff happening,but at
> >>>>this point I don't want to spend the buck on an extra computer
> >>>>and interface it with my Paris comp.I don't want to venture into
> >>>>DJ LAND(echo,echo,echo) ;)I love ya Deej and all,but don't want
> >>>>to deal with all that right now.
> >>>>
> >>>> So could I get some stuff happening in Cubase then bounce it
> >>>>and bring it into Paris for audio and mixing?Anyone doing this?
> >>>>
> >>>>THanks,
> >>>>Pete
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
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