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Pinging Jamie K [message #84547] Mon, 14 May 2007 14:52 Go to next message
Don Nafe is currently offline  Don Nafe   UNITED STATES
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fire me an email...got that web site of "canadian scientists against global
warming" for ya

We like our friggin cold weather up here so Global Warming is NOT an option
here in Canada

:-)

DOn
Re: Pinging Jamie K [message #84551 is a reply to message #84547] Mon, 14 May 2007 15:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jamie K is currently offline  Jamie K   UNITED STATES
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Hey Don, You have mail!

Don Nafe wrote:
> fire me an email...got that web site of "canadian scientists against global
> warming" for ya
>
> We like our friggin cold weather up here so Global Warming is NOT an option
> here in Canada

Maybe you could pass a law to make it illegal, and then it would simply
stop happening! ;^)

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com



> :-)
>
> DOn
>
>
>
Re: Pinging Jamie K [message #84555 is a reply to message #84551] Mon, 14 May 2007 16:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Don Nafe is currently offline  Don Nafe   UNITED STATES
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Still bouncing. back

Don


"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:4648e9a8@linux...
>
> Hey Don, You have mail!
>
> Don Nafe wrote:
>> fire me an email...got that web site of "canadian scientists against
>> global warming" for ya
>>
>> We like our friggin cold weather up here so Global Warming is NOT an
>> option here in Canada
>
> Maybe you could pass a law to make it illegal, and then it would simply
> stop happening! ;^)
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>
>> :-)
>>
>> DOn
>>
>>
Re: Pinging Jamie K [message #84558 is a reply to message #84547] Mon, 14 May 2007 16:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Don Nafe is currently offline  Don Nafe   UNITED STATES
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here's the site Jamie

www.friendsofscience.org

Don


"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:4648dbb3@linux...
> fire me an email...got that web site of "canadian scientists against
> global warming" for ya
>
> We like our friggin cold weather up here so Global Warming is NOT an
> option here in Canada
>
> :-)
>
> DOn
>
>
>
Re: Pinging Jamie K [message #84596 is a reply to message #84558] Mon, 14 May 2007 23:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jamie K is currently offline  Jamie K   UNITED STATES
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OK, thanks Don. Here are some links for your consideration:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friends_of_Science

Where "Friends of Science" is criticized for oil industry funding and
scientific errors.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Friends_of_Scienc e

Details some of the industry connections.

http://www.desmogblog.com/friends-of-science-friends-of-toba cco

Criticized for their PR spin and connections with a similar campaign
supporting big tobacco.

http://www.desmogblog.com/friends-of-science-a-political-not -scientific-clique

Criticized for lack of data and ignoring majority of climate scientists.

Finally, another Canadian perspective from the CBC:

http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/denialmachine/index.html

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com



Don Nafe wrote:
> here's the site Jamie
>
> www.friendsofscience.org
>
> Don
>
>
> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:4648dbb3@linux...
>> fire me an email...got that web site of "canadian scientists against
>> global warming" for ya
>>
>> We like our friggin cold weather up here so Global Warming is NOT an
>> option here in Canada
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> DOn
>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Pinging Jamie K [message #84600 is a reply to message #84596] Tue, 15 May 2007 01:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Don Nafe is currently offline  Don Nafe   UNITED STATES
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I would have expected better.

Sorry for wasting your time

DOn
Friends of Spin? [message #84615 is a reply to message #84600] Tue, 15 May 2007 07:55 Go to previous message
Jamie K is currently offline  Jamie K   UNITED STATES
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Registered: July 2006
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No worries, you didn't waste my time. I didn't find FOS immediately
convincing but it was interesting to learn more about them.

Does it bother you when other Canadians point out the special interest
affiliations of FOS?

Are you curious about the lack of actual relevant data behind FOS claims?

Or the exaggeration of a supposed scientific opposition while ignoring
mainstream science?

Or the spin and misdirection on their "myths/facts" page?

Setting aside the oil industry connections for now, and the appeal to
authority they attempt to make, we can look at their "myths/facts" one
at a time if you like. I glanced through them and most of them appear to
be straw men arguments. A few are flat contradictions of the actual facts.

Seriously, in the context of what we do know, FOS isn't offering enough
to hang a hat on.

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com


Don Nafe wrote:
> I would have expected better.
>
> Sorry for wasting your time
>
> DOn
>
>



Jamie K wrote:
>
> OK, thanks Don. Here are some links for your consideration:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friends_of_Science
>
> Where "Friends of Science" is criticized for oil industry funding and
> scientific errors.
>
> http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Friends_of_Scienc e
>
> Details some of the industry connections.
>
> http://www.desmogblog.com/friends-of-science-friends-of-toba cco
>
> Criticized for their PR spin and connections with a similar campaign
> supporting big tobacco.
>
>
http://www.desmogblog.com/friends-of-science-a-political-not -scientific-clique

>
>
> Criticized for lack of data and ignoring majority of climate scientists.
>
> Finally, another Canadian perspective from the CBC:
>
> http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/denialmachine/index.html
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>
> Don Nafe wrote:
>> here's the site Jamie
>>
>> www.friendsofscience.org
>>
>> Don
>>
>>
>> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:4648dbb3@linux...
>>> fire me an email...got that web site of "canadian scientists against
>>> global warming" for ya
>>>
>>> We like our friggin cold weather up here so Global Warming is NOT an
>>> option here in Canada
>>>
>>> :-)
>>>
>>> DOn
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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