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| Bad hum - keyboard to PA...? [message #54985] |
Tue, 28 June 2005 01:47  |
Kim
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> I'm thinking there is some kind of earth problem in the rehearsal studio.
> Obviously an earth problem wouldn't show up through a mic, and it didn't
> show up on our guitarists setup which involved a laptop plugged into the
> PA, but laptops of course use DC and I imagine are less prone to earth
> issues.
>
> Anybody got any tips here? Am I likely to damage the keyboard if I take it
> back? Or may it still be a keyboard fault? Next time I'm taking a
> multimeter
> to measure the earth...
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.I had a client who needed an orchestral piece taken up a whole step.
Paris' pitch shift, as we all know, was not up to the task. I
downloaded
a demo of Serato's Pitch'n'Time and used it in Protools LE. It was
amazing! I was able to shift a Wynton Marsalis piece w/ full orchestra
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| Re: Bad hum - keyboard to PA...? [message #54999 is a reply to message #54997] |
Tue, 28 June 2005 09:17  |
Don Nafe
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lt;hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> news:42c10eb8$1@linux...
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>>>>
>>>>I've been rehearsing in this particular studio, and my Kawai MP-9000
>
> hums
>
>>>>really badly through the standard unbalanced 6.5mm 1/4 inch jacks. It
>>>
>>>doesn't
>>>
>>>>hum at all through the balanced cannon outputs (yes, oddly, and
>>>
>>>thankfully,
>>>
>>>>this keyboard has balanced outputs as well).
>>>>
>>>>I've tested the keyboard here at home and it's fine through both into
>>>
>>>Paris.
>>>
>>>>I'm thinking there is some kind of earth problem in the rehearsal
>
> studio.
>
>>>>Obviously an earth problem wouldn't show up through a mic, and it
>
> didn't
>
>>>>show up on our guitarists setup which involved a laptop plugged into
>
> the
>
>>>>PA, but laptops of course use DC and I imagine are less prone to earth
>>>
>>>issues.
>>>
>>>>Anybody got any tips here? Am I likely to damage the keyboard if I take
>>>>it
>>>>back? Or may it still be a keyboard fault? Next time I'm taking a
>>>
>>>multimeter
>>>
>>>>to measure the earth...
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Kim.
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>Hmm, it seems that a word are missing, hmm...
....It seems that the unbalanced cables have come too close to some form of
transformators in the studio....hmmm,...I think that's a little bit better
understandable, for me...hmmm
erlilo
"erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> skrev i en meddelelse news:42c155b0@linux...
> Kim,
> It seems that the unbalanced cables have come too close some form of
> transformators in the studio. It's allways a good idea to check this if
> there's humming.
>
> erlilo
>
> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
> news:42c10eb8$<
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| Re: Bad hum - keyboard to PA...? [message #55000 is a reply to message #54999] |
Tue, 28 June 2005 09:30 |
Deej [3]
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>> I've been rehearsing in this particular studio, and my Kawai MP-9000 hums
>> really badly through the standard unbalanced 6.5mm 1/4 inch jacks. It
>> doesn't
>> hum at all through the balanced cannon outputs (yes, oddly, and
>> thankfully,
>> this keyboard has balanced outputs as well).
>>
>> I've tested the keyboard here at home and it's fine through both into
>> Paris.
>>
>> I'm thinking there is some kind of earth problem in the rehearsal studio.
>> Obviously an earth problem wouldn't show up through a mic, and it didn't
>> show up on our guitarists setup which involved a laptop plugged into the
>> PA, but laptops of course use DC and I imagine are less prone to earth
>> issues.
>>
>> Anybody got any tips here? Am I likely to damage the keyboard if I take
>> it
>> back? Or may it still be a keyboard fault? Next time I'm taking a
>> multimeter
>> to measure the earth...
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>
>Kim,
I would recommend using a direct box.
Also another thing you can try is to lift (cut) the shield on the keyboard
side of your 1/4 cable.
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>I've been rehearsing in this particular studio, and my Kawai MP-9000 hums
>really badly through the standard unbalanced 6.5mm 1/4 inch jacks. It doesn't
>hum at all through the balanced cannon outputs (yes, oddly, and thankfully,
>this keyboard has balanced outputs as well).
>
>I've tested the keyboard here at home and it's fine through both into Paris.
>
>I'm thinking there is some kind of earth problem in the rehearsal studio.
>Obviously an earth problem wouldn't show up through a mic, and it didn't
>show up on our guitarists setup which involved a laptop plugged into the
>PA, but laptops of course use DC and I imagine are less prone to earth issues.
>
>Anybody got any tips here? Am I likely to damage the keyboard if I take
it
>back? Or may it still be a keyboard fault? Next time I'm taking a multimeter
>to measure the earth...
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.Um, if you cut the sheild on an "unbalanced" connection, that leaves
you with only *one* wire... not enough to complete the circuit.
Davud.
Paul wrote:
> Kim,
>
> I would recommend using a direct box.
> Also another thing you can try is to lift (cut) the shield on the keyboard
> side of your 1/4 cable.
>
>
> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>I've been rehearsing in this particular studio, and my Kawai MP-9000 hums
>>really badly through the standard unbalanced 6.5mm 1/4 inch jacks. It doesn't
>>hum at all through the balanced cannon outputs (yes, oddly, and thankfully
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| Re: Bad hum - keyboard to PA...? [message #55003 is a reply to message #55000] |
Tue, 28 June 2005 10:17 |
EK Sound
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ntom power... Condenser mics may or may not
work properly.
YMMV
David.
Rod Lincoln wrote:
> I think I need to get a couple of "in line" mic pads to knock the signal gain
> don before it hits my pre's. What are some good ones? Deej, I think you mentioned
> some in a post a while back.
> Rod
>In article <42b9da80$1@linux>, "Paul " <TTraxx@aol.com> wrote:
> I downloaded the demo but can't figure out how to use it, there is no VST
> plug in
> just a bunch of .gog files, anyone get it to work? Thanx in advance. -Paul
You should have a VISE installer in there somewhere. It looks for folders that are titled
"VST Plug-ins" (not sure about the exact spelling or syntax; it may be "VSTPlugins", "VST Plugins",
"VST Plug-Ins" or "VSTPlugIns") and installs the actual plug-in there. Of course my PARIS Plug-Ins
folder was named "PARIS Plug-ins" and so it didn't give me the option to install Drumagog there. I
had to rename it and re-run the installer. It may not have found your plug-ins folder and installed
it God-knows-where.
Run Sherlock (command-F) and search for files modified on the day you attempted the install. Find
that Drumagog plug and move it to your PARIS VST plugs folder.
I tried it and it works really nicely. I'm definitely going to buy it.
Hope this helped!
bc"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>
>The system is on UPS, but the UPS only lasts a couple of hours. Power was
>out for most of the day for some routine thing in the street...
>
>...remind me to get that spare 26Ah SLA battery and hook it up to the UPS...
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
Kim,
I don’t think you should be purchasing an expensive battery to extend UPS
life. We can live with an occasional outage. Or set up a PayPal account and
we can all contribute to the Keep-Paris-Alive-Fund.
Gene"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:42c10eb8$1@linux...
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>
> I've been rehearsing in this particular studio, and my Kawai MP-9000 hums
> really badly through the standard unbalanced 6.5mm 1/4 inch jacks. It
> doesn't
> hum at all through the balanced cannon outputs (yes, oddly, and
> thankfully,
> this keyboard has balanced outputs as well).
>
> I've tested the keyboard here at home and it's fine through both into
> Paris.
>
> I'm thinking there is some kind of earth problem in the rehearsal studio.
> Obviously an earth problem wouldn't show up through a mic, and it didn't
> show up on our guitarists setup which involved a laptop plugged into the
> PA, but laptops of course use DC and I imagine are less prone to earth
> issues.
>
> Anybody got any tips here? Am I likely to damage the keyboard if I take it
> back? Or may it still be a keyboard fault? Next time I'm taking a
> multimeter
> to measure the earth...
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
Have ya tried flipping the AC plug ?
If it's a three pronger grab a three to two adaptor and then try it
DonI work with Serato in PT and in Fairlight and the results are very good, though
on stereo (mixed files) sound sources you can hear the high-end becoming
slightly unclear, but still very usable and certainly giving me the best
results
compared to any other software.
I can't comment on the Waves Transform Bundle and AFAIK Mel
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| Re: Bad hum - keyboard to PA...? [message #55014 is a reply to message #55003] |
Tue, 28 June 2005 16:08 |
Don Nafe
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o blow a
half-hour or so for a good cause in the next several days?
If I lived closer, I'd buy dinner and a beer. This whole thing needs
to be no longer than about 3 minutes.
If you can, email me offlist and let me know. Pleeeeaaaase?
I thank you from the bottom of my really appreciative heart.
pabSo,
Two weeks ago I took my laptop in for repair (which is why I haven't
been around of late). It had a known class problem acknowledged on HP's
web site, but they would not repair it under warranty as it had lapsed
two weeks previously, nor would they send me the service kit, saying the
repair had to be done by an authorized service center...they would not
send me the parts. I took it to the closest repair center, took a buddy
with me (turned out be a good choice), and demonstrated the problem,
apply pressure to teh base and the video zips out. They took my laptop,
refused my power supply and said it would be 10 to 15 days.
This past monday was ten days so I called to check on the situation.
They hadn't called me, though the status had been determined a week
earlier. A machine that I physically started up for them and showed it
would boot now needs a motherboard and memory at a minmum because "the
customer plugged in the wrong power supply and fried the components". I
called the actual service center to explore this issue, asked why they
suspected I was the one who plugged in the wrong power supply when I
still had it in my posession and when I left the machine, it did
actually power up. Got hung up on on transfer, left a message and have
not gotten a call back. Won't mention the name of the company but you
can find them inside the "Best Buy" chain.
Finally I have broken down and configured one of my "protected pc's"
with internet access so I could catch up on things like the newsgroup.
Doubtful the resolution of this situation will be anywhere close to "my
satisfaction". :-(I think I speak for both of me when I say to both of you...
;oP !!!
;o)
Cheers,
Kim.
"Mr Simplicity" <animix_spamless_@animas.net> wrote:
>I have hired a guy in a trench coat to keep an eye on Mr. Kim.
>
>"EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
>news:42c165a5$1@linux...
>> Man, all these people singing your praises, then this... I know I am
>> disillusioned! ;-)
>>
>> David.
>>
>> Kim wrote:
>> > The system is on UPS, but the UPS only lasts a couple of hours. Power
>was
>> > out for most of the day for some routine thing in the street...
>> >
>> > ...remind me to get that spare 26Ah SLA battery and hook it up to the
>UPS...
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Kim.
>
>EK Sound <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote:
>What length are the unbalanced 1/4" cables?? Are you using a DI box
>(recommended)?.
I didn't use a DI box no, because the keyboard has it's own balanced outputs
there's no real point. I just went into the 1/4 inch unbalanced input on
the PA. The cable was longish. 10 or 15 feet maybe?
Cheers,
Kim.John <no@no.com> wrote:
>Try to plug the keyboard into the same power outlet as the destination,
Unfortunately, and stupidly, this studio has its PA all boarded up so you
couldn't access it's power, or any part of it other than the I/O and knobs,
otherwise plugging into it's powerboard would have been my first act.
> use balanced whenever possible,
The keyboard has it's own balanced outs, but the main keyboard volume doesn't
work when I use it, so I sometimes use the non balanced to gain the use of
the master level. The balanced did work though.
make shure your cable is a nice
>shielded quality cable and not a 1/4" speaker cable,
It's a decent cable.
> get an isolation
>transformer (http://www.whirlwindusa.com/spcint.html#il19).
>
There's something. I was thinki
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| Re: Bad hum - keyboard to PA...? [message #55015 is a reply to message #54997] |
Tue, 28 June 2005 19:42 |
Russ
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ng of getting a safety switch too, so maybe
I should make a big master audio power setup with a safety switch, iso tranny
and 8 way power board...
Cheers,
Kim.
>Kim wrote:
>> I've been rehearsing in this particular studio, and my Kawai MP-9000 hums
>> really badly through the standard unbalanced 6.5mm 1/4 inch jacks. It
doesn't
>> hum at all through the balanced cannon outputs (yes, oddly, and thankfully,
>> this keyboard has balanced outputs as well).
>>
>> I've tested the keyboard here at home and it's fine through both into
Paris.
>>
>> I'm thinking there is some kind of earth problem in the rehearsal studio.
>> Obviously an earth problem wouldn't show up through a mic, and it didn't
>> show up on our guitarists setup which involved a laptop plugged into the
>> PA, but laptops of course use DC and I imagine are less prone to earth
issues.
>>
>> Anybody got any tips here? Am I likely to damage the keyboard if I take
it
>> back? Or may it still be a keyboard fault? Next time I'm taking a multimeter
>> to measure the earth...
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim."erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote:
>Hmm, it seems that a word are missing, hmm...
Hehe, yes, but I got the message. :o) I'm pretty sure that wasn't the problem
though. It happenned in two different rehearsal rooms for starters. The first
time it happenned I did play with moving the cables a bit to no avail.
Cheers,
Kim.
>...It seems that the unbalanced cables have come too close to some form
of
>transformators in the studio....hmmm,...I think that's a little bit better
>understandable, for me...hmmm
>
>erlilo
>
>"erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> skrev i en meddelelse news:42c155b0@linux...
>> Kim,
>> It seems that the unbalanced cables have come too close some form of
>> transformators in the studio. It's allways a good idea to check this if
>> there's humming.
>>
>> erlilo
>>
>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>> news:42c10eb8$
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| Re: Bad hum - keyboard to PA...? [message #55024 is a reply to message #54990] |
Wed, 29 June 2005 00:27 |
Kim
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ine it will continue to run fine on the
boxes and software I have. The extra battery will just be a couple of hours
labour one night when I have spare time.
In any case, the UPS runs my net connection too (naturally), and will also
run my VOIP cordless phone, so I'd like it to last a long time. :o) That
way when the power goes out I can still make calls and surf the net, AND
the Paris NG. :o)
Cheers,
Kim.ditto, and try not to harm too many brain cells doing your hooptydoo
celebration dance.
On 29 Jun 2005 17:39:27 +1000, "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>
>Ok so it's early for you over there, but where I am it's JUNE 29th!!
>
>My brother is out in the lounge celebrating his birthday with a Grolsch and
>by putting together a Star Wars model he was given (he's a big Star Wars
>fan).
>
>Here's hoping you have a nice coffee with no dishwashing liquid, get some
>loving excited licks on the face from your dogs, and perhaps Amy ;o), and
>find some new peice of gear to tickle your fancy for the day. :o)
>
>Happy birthday across the Pacific.
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.What kind of lights are they using in the studio? You see, lights with
transformators can make the same problems. I have had much of these kind of
problems up against the old playing years in different norwegian dancing
places. Nearly allways it was transformator hum, mostly from light with
transformators. But we have 220V AC here in Scandinavia. Maybe this are
making different facts with unbalanced electric components here. I don't
know:-)
Cheers
erlilo
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:42c24de0$1@linux...
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> "erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote:
>>Hmm, it seems that a word are missing, hmm...
>
> Hehe, yes, but I got the message. :o) I'm pretty sure that wasn't the
> probl
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| Re: Bad hum - keyboard to PA...? [message #55025 is a reply to message #55004] |
Wed, 29 June 2005 00:29 |
Kim
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> though. It happenned in two different rehearsal rooms for starters. The
> first
> time it happenned I did play with moving the cables a bit to no avail.
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
>
>
>>...It seems that the unbalanced cables have come too close to some form
> of
>>transformators in the studio....hmmm,...I think that's a little bit better
>
>>understandable, for me...hmmm
>>
>>erlilo
>>
>>"erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> skrev i en meddelelse news:42c155b0@linux...
>>> Kim,
>>> It seems that the unbalanced cables have come too close some form of
>>> transformators in the studio. It's allways a good idea to check this if
>
>>> there's humming.
>>>
>>> erlilo
>>>
>>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>> news:42c10eb8$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've been rehearsing in this particular studio, and my Kawai MP-9000
> hums
>>>> really badly through the standard unbalanced 6.5mm 1/4 inch jacks. It
>
>>>> doesn't
>>>> hum at all through the balanced cannon outputs (yes, oddly, and
>>>> thankfully,
>>>> this keyboard has balanced outputs as well).
>>>>
>>>> I've tested the keyboard here at home and it's fine through both into
>
>>>> Paris.
>>>>
>>>> I'm thinking there is some kind of earth problem in the rehearsal
>>>> studio.
>>>> Obviously an earth problem wouldn't show up through a mic, and it
>>>> didn't
>>>> show up on our guitarists setup which involved a laptop plugged into
> the
>>>> PA, but laptops of course use DC and I imagine are less prone to earth
>
>>>> issues.
>>>>
>>>> Anybody got any tips here? Am I likely to damage the keyboard if I take
>
>>>> it
>>>> back? Or may it still be a keyboard fault? Next time I'm taking a
>>>> multimeter
>>>> to measure the earth...
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Kim.
>>
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| Re: Bad hum - keyboard to PA...? [message #55032 is a reply to message #55025] |
Wed, 29 June 2005 01:58 |
erlilo
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>>>this signal to into a pair of lightpipe inputs of the Yamaha and start
>>>looped playback of the 60HZ signal. Now plug your keyboard into a pair
>
> of
>
>>>line inputs on the DM2000 and this and flip the phase on the 60HZ tracks
>>>that are being played back from the CD.
>>>
>>>This should solve your problem.
>>>
>>>;o)
>>>
>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:42c10eb8$1@linux...
>
>>>>
>>>>I've been rehearsing in this particular studio, and my Kawai MP-9000
>
> hums
>
>>>>really badly through the standard unbalanced 6.5mm 1/4 inch jacks. It
>>>
>>>doesn't
>>>
>>>>hum at all through the balanced cannon outputs (yes, oddly, and
>>>
>>>thankfully,
>>>
>>>>this keyboard has balanced outputs as well).
>>>>
>>>>I've tested the keyboard here at home and it's fine through both into
>>>
>>>Paris.
>>>
>>>>I'm thinking there is some kind of earth problem in the rehearsal
>
> studio.
>
>>>>Obviously an earth problem wouldn't show up through a mic, and it
>
> didn't
>
>>>>show up on our guitarists setup which involved a laptop plugged into
>
> the
>
>>>>PA, but laptops of course use DC and I imagine are less prone to earth
>>>
>>>issues.
>>>
>>>>Anybody got any tips here? Am I likely to damage the keyboard if I take
>>>>it
>>>>back? Or may it still be a keyboard fault? Next time I'm taking a
>>>
>>>multimeter
>>>
>>>>to measure the earth...
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Kim.
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>Yeh, happy birthday, Doug. So now the first five extra years to the middle
hundred have gone, if I remember correct.-)
Erling
"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:3ho4c1lhbf3oqnnuan8afq5h2a71s7k3tq@4ax.com...
> ditto, and try not to harm too many brain cells doing your hooptydoo
> celebration dance.
>
> On 29 Jun 2005 17:39:27 +1000, "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>Ok so it's early for you over there, but where I am it's JUNE 29th!!
>>
>>My brother is out in the lounge celebrating his birthday with a Grolsch
>>and
>>by putting together a Star Wars model he was given (he's a big Star Wars
>>fan).
>>
>>Here's hoping you have a nice coffee with no dishwashing liquid, get some
>>loving excited licks on the face from your dogs, and perhaps Amy ;o), and
>>find some new peice of gear to tickle your fancy for the day. :o)
>>
>>Happy birthday across the Pacific.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>I'm thinking dog oriented gifts like an Empirical "Lab
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| Re: Bad hum - keyboard to PA...? [message #55039 is a reply to message #55000] |
Wed, 29 June 2005 04:45 |
John [1]
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or pizza parlor songs willing to blow a
>half-hour or so for a good cause in the next several days?
>
>If I lived closer, I'd buy dinner and a beer. This whole thing needs
>to be no longer than about 3 minutes.
>
>If you can, email me offlist and let me know. Pleeeeaaaase?
>
>I thank you from the bottom of my really appreciative heart.
>
>pabYes, Happy Birthday, Doctair Frunkanschtine ................
......................BUH HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
(with the best accent I can muster) :oP
Rod
"Neil" <OIUOI@OIOI.com> wrote:
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>Dittos... Happy Birthday, Deej!!!
>
>Neil
>
>
>"erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote:
>>Yeh, happy birthday, Doug. So now the first five extra years to the middle
>
>>hundred have gone, if I remember correct.-)
>>
>>Erling
>>
>>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>news:3ho4c1lhbf3oqnnuan8afq5h2a71s7k3tq@4ax.com...
>>> ditto, and try not to harm too many brain cells doing your hooptydoo
>>> celebration dance.
>>>
>>> On 29 Jun 2005 17:39:27 +1000, "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Ok so it's early for you over there, but where I am it's JUNE 29th!!
>>>>
>>>>My brother is out in the lounge celebrating his birthday with a Grolsch
>
>>>>and
>>>>by putting together a Star Wars model he was given (he's a big Star Wars
>>>>fan).
>>>>
>>>>Here's hoping you have a nice coffee with no dishwashing liquid, get
some
>>>>loving excited licks on the face from your dogs, and perhaps Amy ;o),
>and
>>>>find some new peice of gear to tickle your fancy for the day. :o)
>>>>
>>>>Happy birthday across the Pacific.
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Kim.
>>>
>>
>>
>I'm interested in adding an EDS (and the connecting cable).
I may consider also adding 442 or another MEC and a C16, at the right price.
Ideaaly 442/MeC/C16 would be black. Low
prices would be good! ;)
Sorry, I know this is in the wrong forum but I thought I might have more
luck here.
I'm in the UK, but would consider international shipping if you can guarantee
a safe, reasonably inexpensively delivery in working order. Please e-mail
daniel_burneNOSPAM@yahoo.com (Withouth the NOSPAM).
Thanks,
DanHappy B-Day bro.
James
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Ok so it's early for you over there, but where I am it's JUNE 29th!!
>
>My brother is out in the lounge celebrating his birthday with a Grolsch
and
>by putting together a Star Wars model he was given (he's a big Star Wars
>fan).
>
>Here's hoping you have a nice coffee with no dishwashing liquid, get some
>loving excited licks on the face from your dogs, and perhaps Amy ;o), and
>find some new peice of gear to tickle your fancy for the day. :o)
>
>Happy birthday across the Pacific.
>
>Cheers,
>
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