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MIDI Brain Power Needed! [message #67324]

Mon, 24 April 2006 23:44

Tom Bruhl

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I exchanged the Motu 8x8 for the MidiMan MidiSport 8x8.
I will install the drivers tomorrow. This is round two.

I wonder if it would be any faster regarding MIDI latency to
install a MIDI card into my Cubase rig and use the MidiSport as
a stand-alone (no USB connection)? I could then run MTC to Cubase=20
via a MIDI cable. I know I would forfeit 128 Midi channels for 16 by =
doing this. =20
Most of my work I think will be softsynths anyway though.

I know MIDI is slower than USB 2 but something tells me that
there may be something more stable if not even quicker to use
the MIDI line sending MTC into Cubase? I know it would usually be=20
combined with note and controller data from a controller which seems =
like=20
a log jam waiting to happen. =20

I am jaded by my experience with the Motu piece and it's inability to =
deal=20
with sysex and it's flakey software. =20

Wadaya think?
Tom

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I exchanged the Motu 8x8 for the =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I will install the drivers =
tomorrow.  This is=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I wonder if it would be any faster =
regarding MIDI=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>install a MIDI card into my Cubase rig =
and=20
use the MidiSport as</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>a stand-alone (no USB=20
connection)?  I could then run MTC </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>to Cubase </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>via a MIDI cable.  </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>I know I would forfeit 128 Midi channels for 16 by doing =
this. =20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Most </FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>of </FONT><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>my work I think will be softsynths anyway =
though.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I know MIDI is slower than USB 2 but =
something=20
tells me that</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>there may be something more stable if =
not even=20
quicker to use</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the MIDI line sending MTC into =
Cubase? =20
I know it would usually be </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>combined </FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>with note=20
and controller data from a controller which seems like </FONT></DIV>
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happen. =20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am jaded by my experience with =
the Motu=20
piece and it's </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>inability to deal =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>with sysex and it's flakey =
software. =20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Wadaya think?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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Re: MIDI Brain Power Needed! [message #67326 is a reply to message #67324]

Tue, 25 April 2006 00:09

Tom Bruhl

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PS I had around 7-8ms latency with rock solid timing with the Amiga, =
MIDI Clock=20
and SMPTE all hardwired. Never any variance. Is this asking too much =
with the
new USB MIDI world? I was expecting better with these newfangled toys. =

But No-o-o-o-o-o-o-o!,
T.

PPS Maybe I should install the drivers first huh?

"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:444dc443$1@linux...
I exchanged the Motu 8x8 for the MidiMan MidiSport 8x8.
I will install the drivers tomorrow. This is round two.

I wonder if it would be any faster regarding MIDI latency to
install a MIDI card into my Cubase rig and use the MidiSport as
a stand-alone (no USB connection)? I could then run MTC to Cubase=20
via a MIDI cable. I know I would forfeit 128 Midi channels for 16 by =
doing this. =20
Most of my work I think will be softsynths anyway though.

I know MIDI is slower than USB 2 but something tells me that
there may be something more stable if not even quicker to use
the MIDI line sending MTC into Cubase? I know it would usually be=20
combined with note and controller data from a controller which seems =
like=20
a log jam waiting to happen. =20

I am jaded by my experience with the Motu piece and it's inability to =
deal=20
with sysex and it's flakey software. =20

Wadaya think?
Tom

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>PS  I had around 7-8ms latency =
with rock solid=20
timing with the Amiga, MIDI Clock </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and SMPTE </FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>all=20
hardwired.  Never any variance.  Is this asking too much with=20
the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>new USB MIDI world?  I was =
expecting better=20
with these newfangled toys.  </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>But No-o-o-o-o-o-o-o!,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>T.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>PPS Maybe I should install the drivers =
first=20
huh?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
in message=20
<A href=3D"news:444dc443$1@linux">news:444dc443$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I exchanged the Motu 8x8 for the =
MidiMan=20
MidiSport 8x8.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I will install the drivers =
tomorrow.  This=20
is round two.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I wonder if it would be any faster =
regarding MIDI=20
latency to</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>install a MIDI card into my Cubase =
rig and=20
use the MidiSport as</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>a stand-alone (no USB=20
connection)?  I could then run MTC </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>to Cubase </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>via a MIDI cable.  </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>I know I would forfeit 128 Midi channels for 16 by doing =
this. =20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Most </FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>of=20
</FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>my work I think will be softsynths =
anyway=20
though.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I know MIDI is slower than USB 2 but =
something=20
tells me that</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>there may be something more stable if =
not even=20
quicker to use</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the MIDI line sending MTC into =
Cubase? =20
I know it would usually be </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>combined </FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>with note=20
and controller data from a controller which seems like </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>a log jam </FONT><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>waiting </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>to =
happen. =20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am jaded by my experience with =
the Motu=20
piece and it's </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>inability to deal =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>with sysex and it's flakey =
software. =20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Wadaya think?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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