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| Re: Dithering-What are you using for final mixes? [message #65215 is a reply to message #65212] |
Mon, 06 March 2006 23:32   |
Pete Ruthenburg
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So Rob,you don't dither at all?
I've previously done mixes just at 16 bit,but i've been
wondering if I should be mixing at 24 bit then dithering down at
the end.
Thanks,
Pete
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.r.com> wrote:
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>Dither shmither. Just mix at 16 bits and truncate.
>Seriously, the wavelab apogee dither is real nice, but I used the free dither
>app for a long time that was provided by some one here and it was great
fokr
>most stuff. It doesn't sound as good on the key jingle test, but for most
>real world stuff it sounds fine, if you don't want to spend the buckage.
>The normal wavelab dither is probably OK also, I've never used it though.
>Rod
>"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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>>First off I don't have Wavelab,but was looking at getting the
>>Essential version.Looks like it comes with internal dithering,
>>wasn't sure if that was up to the job.
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>>What else are people using for dithering Paris final mixes?
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>>TIA,
>>Pete
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| Re: Dithering-What are you using for final mixes? [message #65224 is a reply to message #65215] |
Tue, 07 March 2006 12:45 |
Rod Lincoln
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Registered: September 2005
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If it's loud rock stuff, I don't see the need. My meters just don't ever go
down that low for it to matter. If it's quiet accoustic music, then I dither.
Rod
"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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>So Rob,you don't dither at all?
>
>I've previously done mixes just at 16 bit,but i've been
>wondering if I should be mixing at 24 bit then dithering down at
>the end.
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>Thanks,
>Pete
>
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.r.com> wrote:
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>>Dither shmither. Just mix at 16 bits and truncate.
>>Seriously, the wavelab apogee dither is real nice, but I used the free
dither
>>app for a long time that was provided by some one here and it was great
>fokr
>>most stuff. It doesn't sound as good on the key jingle test, but for most
>>real world stuff it sounds fine, if you don't want to spend the buckage.
>>The normal wavelab dither is probably OK also, I've never used it though.
>>Rod
>>"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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>>>First off I don't have Wavelab,but was looking at getting the
>>>Essential version.Looks like it comes with internal dithering,
>>>wasn't sure if that was up to the job.
>>>
>>>What else are people using for dithering Paris final mixes?
>>>
>>>TIA,
>>>Pete
>>
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| Re: Dithering-What are you using for final mixes? [message #65282 is a reply to message #65277] |
Thu, 09 March 2006 11:14 |
Dan B
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Hi Deej - just to check:
you mix in paris with No Limit (settings'd be nice :)), and then take it
to soundforge to dither with L2? (Otherwise I can't see a way of getting
the L2 to dither the whole mix within Paris, at least effectively).
Thanks,
Dan
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>I'm using the L2 on my mixes right now. I also have the UAD mastering tools,
>but I'm finding that I like Waves processing, at least for this project.
>It's a little less colored. My color is coming from the Paris mix bus which
>already has NoLimit strapped across the global fader kissing the mix so
I
>don't want to add any more color to this. I like what L2 is (not) doing.
>
>Deej
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>"RZ" <pearlmusic@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:440dcfe9$1@linux...
>> Mix well in Paris. Convert 24 bit Paris files to WAV. with PAF/WAV.
>> converter. Open in Sound Forge, peak limit to taste with Waves L1 while
>> dithering down to 16 bit. If your mixes sound great in Paris, this will
>> give you great results.
>>
>> RZ
>>
>> "Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:440d1fc6$1@linux...
>> >
>> > First off I don't have Wavelab,but was looking at getting the
>> > Essential version.Looks like it comes with internal dithering,
>> > wasn't sure if that was up to the job.
>> >
>> > What else are people using for dithering Paris final mixes?
>> >
>> > TIA,
>> > Pete
>>
>>
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| Re: Dithering-What are you using for final mixes? [message #65286 is a reply to message #65282] |
Thu, 09 March 2006 14:36 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
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On this project, I've got NoLimit set to .09 threshold and 0.2dB limiting.
The Cubase channel faders are driving the Paris channels.
The Paris channel faders are driving the Paris submix aggressively or
mildly, depending on the song and the submix fader levels are driving the
the mix bus.
wrote in message news:44107083$1@linux...
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> Hi Deej - just to check:
> you mix in paris with No Limit (settings'd be nice :)), and then take it
> to soundforge to dither with L2? (Otherwise I can't see a way of getting
> the L2 to dither the whole mix within Paris, at least effectively).
> Thanks,
> Dan
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >I'm using the L2 on my mixes right now. I also have the UAD mastering
tools,
> >but I'm finding that I like Waves processing, at least for this project.
> >It's a little less colored. My color is coming from the Paris mix bus
which
> >already has NoLimit strapped across the global fader kissing the mix so
> I
> >don't want to add any more color to this. I like what L2 is (not) doing.
> >
> >Deej
> >
> >"RZ" <pearlmusic@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:440dcfe9$1@linux...
> >> Mix well in Paris. Convert 24 bit Paris files to WAV. with PAF/WAV.
> >> converter. Open in Sound Forge, peak limit to taste with Waves L1
while
> >> dithering down to 16 bit. If your mixes sound great in Paris, this
will
> >> give you great results.
> >>
> >> RZ
> >>
> >> "Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> >> news:440d1fc6$1@linux...
> >> >
> >> > First off I don't have Wavelab,but was looking at getting the
> >> > Essential version.Looks like it comes with internal dithering,
> >> > wasn't sure if that was up to the job.
> >> >
> >> > What else are people using for dithering Paris final mixes?
> >> >
> >> > TIA,
> >> > Pete
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
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| Re: Dithering-What are you using for final mixes? [message #65287 is a reply to message #65282] |
Thu, 09 March 2006 14:37 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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Oh yeah.......I forgot to answer your question. I'm applying L2 in Wavelab.
;o}
"Dan B" <daniel_burneNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:44107083$1@linux...
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> Hi Deej - just to check:
> you mix in paris with No Limit (settings'd be nice :)), and then take it
> to soundforge to dither with L2? (Otherwise I can't see a way of getting
> the L2 to dither the whole mix within Paris, at least effectively).
> Thanks,
> Dan
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >I'm using the L2 on my mixes right now. I also have the UAD mastering
tools,
> >but I'm finding that I like Waves processing, at least for this project.
> >It's a little less colored. My color is coming from the Paris mix bus
which
> >already has NoLimit strapped across the global fader kissing the mix so
> I
> >don't want to add any more color to this. I like what L2 is (not) doing.
> >
> >Deej
> >
> >"RZ" <pearlmusic@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:440dcfe9$1@linux...
> >> Mix well in Paris. Convert 24 bit Paris files to WAV. with PAF/WAV.
> >> converter. Open in Sound Forge, peak limit to taste with Waves L1
while
> >> dithering down to 16 bit. If your mixes sound great in Paris, this
will
> >> give you great results.
> >>
> >> RZ
> >>
> >> "Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> >> news:440d1fc6$1@linux...
> >> >
> >> > First off I don't have Wavelab,but was looking at getting the
> >> > Essential version.Looks like it comes with internal dithering,
> >> > wasn't sure if that was up to the job.
> >> >
> >> > What else are people using for dithering Paris final mixes?
> >> >
> >> > TIA,
> >> > Pete
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
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