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Which apps support PAF? [message #103365] Thu, 07 May 2009 10:45 Go to next message
kerryg is currently offline  kerryg   CANADA
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Hi all. I'm starting to compile lists of apps that support PAF.

These are the questions I'm asking:

1) Runs under which OS (Mac OS9, Mac OSX, PC, Linux?)
2) Does it just read or import PAF, or does it both read and write them?
3) Still available?

Next question is - what apps would you *like* to see PAF support in?

Reads/writes:
Reaper* (PC, Mac OSX)
Wavelab (PC)
BIAS PEAK (Mac OS9, Mac OSX)
Awave Studio (PC - XP or Vista)
BarbaBatch (Mac OS9, Mac OSX)
SoundConverter (Mac OSX, PC)
CoolEdit 1.2 (with PAF file filter) (PC)
Prosoniq SonicWorx (Mac OS9)

Reads only:
FairStars Audio Convertor (PC)
Factory Audio Convertor (PC)
Audio Ease Snapper (Mac OSX)
Harrison Mixbus** (Mac OSX)
Ardour** (Linux, Mac OSX)
SoundApp (Mac OS9)
AudioMove** (OSX, WinXP onwards)

*via libsndfile
*via libsndfile; 24-bit PAF from Mac PARIS not yet supported


Writes only:
Live CD Ripper (PC)
Audio Music Batch Converter (PC)

Like to see:
I'd like to see read/write PAF support in Melodyne myself.
Ableton Live

[edited to add: for me, the second two categories will be a priority - seeing them complete their support for PAF so they read *and* write PAF (where appropriate, ie a dedicated CD ripper doesn't need PAF import). After that, next priority is the fourth category, "apps we'd like to see PAF supported in"; obviously the focus is on speeding workflow between PARIS and apps that add new functionality- K]

PS: - we may never see the last category implemented, but it won't be because I didn't ask them for it Very Happy


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Re: Which apps support PAF? [message #103372 is a reply to message #103365] Thu, 07 May 2009 20:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mike Bloomer is currently offline  Mike Bloomer   UNITED STATES
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I second you on Melodyne...
MB


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Re: Which apps support PAF? [message #103374 is a reply to message #103372] Thu, 07 May 2009 20:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ableton Live wouldn't suck either.

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Re: Which apps support PAF? [message #103375 is a reply to message #103365] Fri, 08 May 2009 07:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Reads: Snapper by Audio Ease
Re: Which apps support PAF? [message #103376 is a reply to message #103375] Fri, 08 May 2009 09:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerryg is currently offline  kerryg   CANADA
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Added - thanks! That looks like a great app.

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Re: Which apps support PAF? [message #103424 is a reply to message #103376] Mon, 18 May 2009 14:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerryg is currently offline  kerryg   CANADA
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And a bump to the top. Anyone know of apps I've missed in there?

Anyone know of Linux apps that support PAF (presumably via libsndfile)?

- K


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Re: Which apps support PAF? [message #103686 is a reply to message #103424] Tue, 07 July 2009 21:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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And another bump so I can put a definitive list on the Wiki.

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Re: Which apps support PAF? [message #103924 is a reply to message #103365] Tue, 04 August 2009 17:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mani1147 is currently offline  mani1147   CANADA
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Don't forget good old Cool Edit V1.2 with the PAF filter, I still use that on occasion.
Re: Which apps support PAF? [message #103928 is a reply to message #103924] Wed, 05 August 2009 17:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerryg is currently offline  kerryg   CANADA
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added, thanks!

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Re: Which apps support PAF? [message #104398 is a reply to message #103928] Sat, 12 December 2009 14:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I would also like to see Melodyne. Lots of potential in this app.

Ron
Re: Which apps support PAF? [message #104403 is a reply to message #104398] Sun, 13 December 2009 11:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Before I go bang on the doors of developers like these, we need to get libsndfile bugfixed so that all flavours of PAF are read and translated correctly. It currently produces gibberish with 24-bit PAFs produced by the Mac version of PARIS.

That's high on my personal list of "things I'd like to see solved": we'd then have an existing translation library to point developers to when asking for the inclusion of PAF import/export. I'm not going to waste my time dreaming about the impossible, we're far too small and closed a market to ask people to devote any significant development resources to. But the moment we can say "look over here, all of the heavy lifting has already been done" it could be a far more reasonable proposition (possibly just a few hours of coding time; Xenakios built the PAF import wrapper in a matter of hours). A couple of dozen potential licenses looks like better math at that point.


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Re: Which apps support PAF? [message #104429 is a reply to message #103365] Mon, 21 December 2009 02:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaro Seppovaara is currently offline  Aaro Seppovaara   FINLAND
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Harrison MIXBUS!
Yesterday I imported some old paf. files into Mixbus, they worked just fine and the sound was amazing!
I think there´s some "PARIS MAGIC" in Mixbus.
If you´re a MAC/PARIS head, you should try it.
Introductory price is only $79.99.
Re: Which apps support PAF? [message #104431 is a reply to message #104429] Mon, 21 December 2009 05:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ted Gerber is currently offline  Ted Gerber   CANADA
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Yes Aaro - I have found the same thing. I've decided it's not _quite_ as 3D as Paris
(most noticeable on headphones) but I'm also using a convo verb instead of my dedicated TC hardware unit, which I believe does not give Mixbus the same chance...

Ted

Re: Which apps support PAF? [message #104433 is a reply to message #104431] Mon, 21 December 2009 08:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh duh. And here I was contributing to the Mixbus thread over on Gearslutz too. Added, thanks!

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Re: Which apps support PAF? [message #104439 is a reply to message #104433] Mon, 21 December 2009 13:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Although this is unrelated I wanted to throw out a huge thank you to you Kerry and Mike of course for keeping the fires burning.
Re: Which apps support PAF? [message #104561 is a reply to message #103365] Thu, 07 January 2010 08:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kerry,
The first two revs of Adobe Audition manage 16 & 24 bit pafs. I fly project tracks to the adobe computer, process and return to the original project time aligned.
Geo
Re: Which apps support PAF? [message #104753 is a reply to message #103365] Thu, 11 February 2010 03:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John DiBernardo is currently offline  John DiBernardo   UNITED STATES
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For mac users: SoundApp plays paf files- not sure if it converts...
now SoundApp Reborn is available for OS X

Prosoniq's SonicWorx converts and is still available

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Re: Which apps support PAF? [message #104754 is a reply to message #104753] Thu, 11 February 2010 09:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerryg is currently offline  kerryg   CANADA
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OK, thanks, got 'em now. I forgot about both of those. SoundApp Reborn sounds pretty cool, even if it hasn't hit the point of usefulness yet - hope he keeps at it.

"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
Re: Which apps support PAF? [message #105233 is a reply to message #104754] Sat, 24 April 2010 08:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ted Gerber is currently offline  Ted Gerber   CANADA
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Also was reminded this week that Har-Bal reads and writes .pafs

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Re: Which apps support PAF? [message #105234 is a reply to message #105233] Sat, 24 April 2010 08:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ted Gerber is currently offline  Ted Gerber   CANADA
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Ted Gerber wrote on Sat, 24 April 2010 11:15
Also was reminded this week that Har-Bal reads and writes .pafs

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Hmm I just tried some Har-bal generated .pafs and all I got was noise...
Re: Which apps support PAF? [message #105237 is a reply to message #105234] Sat, 24 April 2010 23:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A Google around seems to indicate Har-Bal uses libsndfile for paf support. But paf support is incomplete in libsndfile, there are problems with 24-bit Mac PARIS files. Sounds like the same symptoms. It's on our radar screen, I really want to see that fixed.

"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
Re: Which apps support PAF? [message #109142 is a reply to message #103365] Mon, 18 April 2016 12:59 Go to previous message
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As of yesterday, Reaper now fully supports .paf read/write (see sticky)!

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