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Re: PARIS ASIO/Scherzo64 Coming along very nicely! [message #107260 is a reply to message #107258] Fri, 07 September 2012 14:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mattcelt   UNITED STATES
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Great to know, Mike. I wasn't sure if the C16 was polled actively or what. It's good to know it's silent most of the time. And I realize now that I was thinking about it the wrong way... somehow I was imagining Reaper talking directly to the C16, instead of having the ASIO driver handle that and convert it to a format that Reaper can use. That makes much more sense.

What sort of information and/or fine-grain resolution are we losing by translating 10 bits to 7? If I'm not mistaken (and I very well could be), OSC uses a 32-bit message size, which is more than enough to handle the 10 bits the C16 needs... if I'm not misunderstanding what OSC does. I don't know how Reaper has implemented OSC, and whether PureData or some other shim would be required to make it work, but it seems to my untrained eye that OSC would give much more flexibility and future-proofing than using MIDI.

But of course, you're the one doing all the work. I'm just armchair qb'ing it over here. Wink
Re: PARIS ASIO/Scherzo64 Coming along very nicely! [message #107261 is a reply to message #107260] Fri, 07 September 2012 23:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jim Drago[2] is currently offline  Jim Drago[2]   UNITED STATES
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Sorry if this is an ignorant question, but hey. So could a C-16 be used to say control the mixer in Record.
Re: PARIS ASIO/Scherzo64 Coming along very nicely! [message #107357 is a reply to message #107261] Tue, 11 December 2012 11:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I would be curious to know if paris retains some of its magical summing properties while running on another d.a.w. ?

Re: PARIS ASIO/Scherzo64 Coming along very nicely! [message #107416 is a reply to message #107167] Sun, 20 January 2013 07:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dimitrios is currently offline  Dimitrios   GREECE
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Dear Mike !
Still hangin on with Paris waiting to BUY your new driver !!
Thanks for keep working on with it !
Regards,
Dimitrios
Re: PARIS ASIO/Scherzo64 Coming along very nicely! [message #107418 is a reply to message #107416] Thu, 24 January 2013 07:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mikeaudet   CANADA
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Hi All,

I just spent the last hour working on the driver. I've been away from it for the last six weeks, which really sucks. But, it's good to be back.

I ran into difficulty as a result of Reaper closing and reopening ASIO drivers when the control panel is opened. As you know, the PARIS hardware can take a while to open when it has to initialize MEC modules. I have 6 in my MEC, and the delay introduced when opening the control panel in Reaper was ridiculous.

So, I made changes to open the hardware when the ASIO driver is loaded instead of when the driver is activated by the app.

I started having weird, random crashes when the control panel opened.

I had to make a choice - fix it quickly or fix it right. I chose the latter. I've written the driver so that all hardware access is separated from the ASIO part. The advantage of this is that it is easier to debug because it's organized properly. It also gave me more insight into how the hardware is started up by the ASIO app. It's one thing to read code, it's a whole other level of understanding to write it. I didn't just copy and past it - I re-wrote it all to be efficient and maintainable.

I just got the new design to compile for the first time. I'm about to start debugging it.

Part of why I decided to write a new hardware object is that I'd like to get a new PARIS app written eventually. This could be a major extension of reaper, or something else. I'm not sure.

But, I haven't gone away or lost interest, and I feel absolutely terrible that this has taken so long. I definitely don't want to let anybody down. I'm in this for the long hall - I'll be using PARIS until my hearing finally goes completely, probably in my 80s (I hope it takes that long!). My wife has had chronic headaches since the summer, so I've been looking after my daughter more than I would have had Erin been healthy. We're doing all we can, and at least all the serious stuff has been ruled out (no tumour or aneurism), but it's still a challenge getting free time. I'm doing my very best and plan to do better.

I hope everyone is well. Back to work on PARIS for me...

Mike
Re: PARIS ASIO/Scherzo64 Coming along very nicely! [message #107419 is a reply to message #107418] Thu, 24 January 2013 08:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey Mike....thanks for the update. Sorry to hear about your wifes headaches. Are they migraine type? If so I have over the years had a few episodes that last for weeks and the last time I ended up doing quite a bit of reading and found that COQ10, B12, and magnesium citrate taken with calcuim to absorb seemed to help quite a bit.

Re: PARIS ASIO/Scherzo64 Coming along very nicely! [message #107420 is a reply to message #107418] Thu, 24 January 2013 10:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ganttmann1 is currently offline  ganttmann1   UNITED STATES
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Hey Mike!

It amazes me to know that anyone is still writing ANY software for Paris! Thank you! I'm not clear on what you're trying to accomplish, though. Are you trying to make the Paris interfaces work w/ Reaper? What do you mean by "Paris APP"? Something that lets a Paris GUI work in Reaper? Could Paris ever run with high sample-rate interfaces? It would be totally cool to run a Protools session using the Paris GUI, which I know inside and out. Pipe dreams, I know, but you never know...

Thanks for keeping trying! I'm still using Paris every day. Well, every day that I'm in the studio at least. I have a job offer from a PT 10 studio (maybe another, we'll see! two offers are always better than one!) so Paris may become a hobby soon. We'll see. Good news would hopefully be a guaranteed paycheck so the bank will let us keep the house, which could be a major issue soon. Sorry to hear about your wife's health issues. My wife passed away at the end of November after almost 3 years of battling her cancer. That's been a hard one, but I'm finally beginning to get back to work and, hopefully, back on track to support my family.

Thanks!

Gantt
Re: PARIS ASIO/Scherzo64 Coming along very nicely! [message #107421 is a reply to message #107420] Fri, 25 January 2013 04:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My sincerest condolences Gantt.

Mike if you're wife is suffering from cluster headaches let me know...I have a couple of decades of experience with these beasts and might be able to help.

As for your work with Paris, what can I say, freakin' awesome.
Re: PARIS ASIO/Scherzo64 Coming along very nicely! [message #107422 is a reply to message #107421] Fri, 25 January 2013 04:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
inkycu is currently offline  inkycu   UNITED STATES
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Hi Mike,

Sounds like great work on the new driver! Sorry your wife is not feeling well....I'm sure time spent with family is well deserved and very rewarding.

Keep up the good work!
Re: PARIS ASIO/Scherzo64 Coming along very nicely! [message #107423 is a reply to message #107420] Fri, 25 January 2013 06:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ganttmann1 is currently offline  ganttmann1   UNITED STATES
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Oops. Sorry Mike - I looked back and saw that I already asked this question and you already answered it.

Thanks!

Gantt

ganttmann1 wrote on Thu, 24 January 2013 13:15
Hey Mike!

It amazes me to know that anyone is still writing ANY software for Paris! Thank you! I'm not clear on what you're trying to accomplish, though. Are you trying to make the Paris interfaces work w/ Reaper? What do you mean by "Paris APP"? Something that lets a Paris GUI work in Reaper? Could Paris ever run with high sample-rate interfaces? It would be totally cool to run a Protools session using the Paris GUI, which I know inside and out. Pipe dreams, I know, but you never know...

Thanks for keeping trying! I'm still using Paris every day. Well, every day that I'm in the studio at least. I have a job offer from a PT 10 studio (maybe another, we'll see! two offers are always better than one!) so Paris may become a hobby soon. We'll see. Good news would hopefully be a guaranteed paycheck so the bank will let us keep the house, which could be a major issue soon. Sorry to hear about your wife's health issues. My wife passed away at the end of November after almost 3 years of battling her cancer. That's been a hard one, but I'm finally beginning to get back to work and, hopefully, back on track to support my family.

Thanks!

Gantt

Re: PARIS ASIO/Scherzo64 Coming along very nicely! [message #107424 is a reply to message #107158] Fri, 25 January 2013 11:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wayne is currently offline  Wayne   UNITED STATES
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Mike,

Like many of us, I'm in PARIS for the long haul. Have been since '97. I'll be here as long as you are here. Take the time. Do it right, to the best of your abilities and time constraints.

Mike and Gnatt,
Best wishes to you and your family.

Lastly,
Avid (ProTools) callled me this week to promote their PT10 HD and upcoming PT11 HDX. I mentioned that my PTMP9 (with M-Audio Fast Track) doesn't come close to the beauty of the PARIS sound. He said, "Paris, France?". Well, that started a new thread. He said, "sounds like PARIS was on the cutting edge ... ". And then I mentioned the low latency, and EDS onboard DSPs with no hit to the CPU. We went "wow!, send me info".

Long story short, I sent him links to Kerry's different sites, FAQs, BT's articles, the PARIS ref manual, Intelligent Devices, EMU, etc.

Maybe they'll learn something, maybe they won't.

Wayne
Re: PARIS ASIO/Scherzo64 Coming along very nicely! [message #107425 is a reply to message #107424] Fri, 25 January 2013 11:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ganttmann1 is currently offline  ganttmann1   UNITED STATES
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Someone told me that PT10 uses 52 bit floating point math (someone correct me if I'm wrong!). A big part of the Paris sound is the (someone correct me if I'm wrong again!) 56 bit floating point processing. Only ahead of their time by what? 18 years? Where are all those engineers who created the EDS card? Those guys knocked the ball outta the park! Then St. Croix and Edmund created a software processor and GUI that is still, for me at least, the fastest, most efficient editor ever.

I'm gonna miss Paris when it's gone...

Gantt

Wayne wrote on Fri, 25 January 2013 14:18
Mike,

Avid (ProTools) callled me this week to promote their PT10 HD and upcoming PT11 HDX. I mentioned that my PTMP9 (with M-Audio Fast Track) doesn't come close to the beauty of the PARIS sound. He said, "Paris, France?". Well, that started a new thread. He said, "sounds like PARIS was on the cutting edge ... ". And then I mentioned the low latency, and EDS onboard DSPs with no hit to the CPU. We went "wow!, send me info".

Long story short, I sent him links to Kerry's different sites, FAQs, BT's articles, the PARIS ref manual, Intelligent Devices, EMU, etc.

Maybe they'll learn something, maybe they won't.

Wayne

Re: PARIS ASIO/Scherzo64 Coming along very nicely! [message #107427 is a reply to message #107420] Sun, 03 February 2013 05:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ted Gerber is currently offline  Ted Gerber   CANADA
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Gantt

I'm very sorry to hear of your wife's passing.

Please keep making great music.

Best

Ted
Re: PARIS ASIO/Scherzo64 Coming along very nicely! [message #107428 is a reply to message #107427] Sun, 03 February 2013 05:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ganttmann1 is currently offline  ganttmann1   UNITED STATES
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Thanks, Ted. I'll try.

Gantt

Ted Gerber wrote on Sun, 03 February 2013 08:39
Gantt

I'm very sorry to hear of your wife's passing.

Please keep making great music.

Best

Ted

Re: PARIS ASIO/Scherzo64 Coming along very nicely! [message #107430 is a reply to message #107428] Thu, 07 February 2013 14:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gantt, I am so sorry to hear about your wife passing. If there is anything I can do for you or your family, just let me know.

I know you posted your message quite some time ago, so I'm very sorry I haven't read it until today. I find when things are not progressing with the PARIS code, I hide from the forum because I feel guilty.

But, I finally, finally fixed the crashing control panel problem today, so with a little luck the wind will be in my sails again and this thing will finally get done.

To think I thought this would be a quick project to make the 64 bit driver useful before I started re-writing the effects subsystem code. I can see why companies hesitate to update drivers for older hardware. Thankfully, I'm not a company.

Take care,

Mike

Re: PARIS ASIO/Scherzo64 Coming along very nicely! [message #107438 is a reply to message #107158] Wed, 13 February 2013 19:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mikeaudet   CANADA
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PARIS Loads under Windows 7 64! It does not play back audio properly, which means I have a bug in my double buffering code, but I can work on that. I know that the driver can pass audio because the ASIO works. The ASIO doesn't need a double buffering workaround, so that's the only place that the problem can be.

On one playback attempt, I could clearly hear acoustic guitar playing back, but there was static every so often. The next try, it was silence. But, I can work on that!

I loaded up my heartbeat plugin, and I hear the PARIS heartbeat for the first time under Windows 7 64. I have no idea how I'm going to sleep tonight.

If anyone ever gets the following error:

*** ASSERTION FAILED: NativeFxLibrary.cpp:191 ((LibraryHeader*)libData)->tag==kLibTag

It may be that ParisGlobalFxLibrary.fxl is corrupted. Delete it, and PARIS creates a new copy when it launches. That took a while to sort out.

The other issue I was having was an access violation when PARIS started, and that was cleared up two days ago when I tried compiling the PSCL with Visual C++ 2010 and it worked.

Holly crap!






Re: PARIS ASIO/Scherzo64 Coming along very nicely! [message #107439 is a reply to message #107438] Wed, 13 February 2013 22:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hello Mike,

Hope all is well with you and your family!

I certainly do appreciate all the time and work you have put in to help keep PARIS alive after it's untimely death by E-MU and Intelligent Devices.

Your latest news regarding PARIS ASIO & Scherzo64 is just great!

Are you saying it's almost ready for "Primetime"? If so, any thoughts on when we'll be able to get our hands on it? No pressure....just wonderful anticipation!

Once you've finished with the PARIS ASIO & Scherzo64 [wheeeewwwwww], and have some free time, I'd like to chat with you about my help in creating any new U.I. graphics and what we feel needs a redesign or update.

Cheers!
JON
Re: PARIS ASIO/Scherzo64 Coming along very nicely! [message #107443 is a reply to message #107439] Fri, 15 February 2013 04:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Very good news. Keep it up (if you don't mind me saying!)

Ted
Re: PARIS ASIO/Scherzo64 Coming along very nicely! [message #107444 is a reply to message #107443] Fri, 15 February 2013 06:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Jon,

I think we might be almost ready for prime time. I have to resolve the double buffering bug - but at least that's my code - and I have to do a bunch of stress testing. But, when I load PARIS, I can load EDS plugins, look at all the MEC cards in the patch bay, play audio (though garbled) - it looks really good!

As for graphics, I think there is going to be lots of opportunity for skinning the control panels in the ASIO control panel.

I do want to be up front that the ASIO driver will still be 32 bit for now. It will run under a 64 bit OS, but will only be accessible to 32 bit audio applications. I have to convert the PSCL to 64 bits before we can get a true 64 bit ASIO. But, now that the ASIO is compiling under a modern compiler, that will be a lot easier to do (though still hard).

I'll keep you posted!

Mike

Re: PARIS ASIO/Scherzo64 Coming along very nicely! [message #107464 is a reply to message #107444] Thu, 21 February 2013 10:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This is one of the best days ever.

The PARIS application is running on Windows 7 64. Smile

So far, I've tested one VST plugin, and it worked. I haven't tried UAD plugins or the FXspantion wrapper.

I can play back 32 tracks before I get a "disk too slow" warning. I have 4 cards, so this is not ideal, but I checked in Windows XP, and that is the exact same number I can get there, too. So, it's just that the software RAID that came with my motherboard sucks.

All 4 of my cards pass audio just fine.

EDS effects work.

Automation works.

CS16 works.

Recording audio works.

I can't find anything yet that doesn't work.

I'll do more testing over the next few days, and I have a bit of code cleanup to do. There is some memory leaking from somewhere, and I have a bunch of debug messages to remove.

After 4 years (has it been that long?), it works!!!!

Give me a couple more weeks to test and tweak, and this should be out and ready to use.

Cheers!

Mike
Re: PARIS ASIO/Scherzo64 Coming along very nicely! [message #107465 is a reply to message #107464] Thu, 21 February 2013 10:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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WoooooHOOOOO - PARIS passes a huge milestone! Major celebration time!

http://greatwinenews.com/vineyard/uploads/2013/01/champ21.jpg


"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
Re: PARIS ASIO/Scherzo64 Coming along very nicely! [message #107470 is a reply to message #107464] Thu, 21 February 2013 13:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thats fantastic news !!!!!
How much would you ask for your release ?
I need to raise the money !
Thanks for the time you spent my friend and I am sure that now NEW Paris users will join us and thus paris stuff will get more expensive and sought after ! but anyway that is also good news I guess !
Take care,
Dimitrios
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By the way Mike !
I still use XP !!
So I just need it to work as ASIO for Cubase under XP and see all cards in mecs with low latency...
Are we already there or same testings apply for windows 7 64 bit ?
Thanks again !!!
Dimitrios
Re: PARIS ASIO/Scherzo64 Coming along very nicely! [message #107472 is a reply to message #107471] Thu, 21 February 2013 15:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The last I tried them, the beta ASIO drivers worked down to 256 samples latency and saw all the i/o of my 2 MEC/multiple MEC module rig. Don't know if anything's changed since then.

"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
Re: PARIS ASIO/Scherzo64 Coming along very nicely! [message #107473 is a reply to message #107472] Fri, 22 February 2013 02:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thats good to hear Smile.

If you sell the new driver, let me know i take one for your hard work.


I wonder myself is still somone there ro rework Paris 3.0. Someone like to make a progamming projekt to improve Midi.

In my mind i got the imagination to implement something like Cubase, Reaper into Paris to Handle Midi easy by paris.

Let me know if someone likes to do this. We can build a workgroup, i need some practice in programming.

Did someone know if orginal code can changed ? Else if it opensource now, after the long time ?

Best Regards
Dan



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Re: PARIS ASIO/Scherzo64 Coming along very nicely! [message #107476 is a reply to message #107473] Fri, 22 February 2013 05:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Dimitrios and Dan,

Finishing the ASIO driver is my next priority. It has a control panel for selecting MEC modules and allows the use of all cards. I had the latency down to 70 samples, if I remember right. It also allows the C16 to be used as a MIDI controller.

I think I've got the 64 bit driver just in time. XP is not getting any more security updates after April 2014. And, almost all new PCs ship with a 64 bit OS. A 64 bit driver makes things a lot easier going forward.

As for the PARIS software, ID hasn't released the source code, so I can't really do much with the PARIS app itself. But, the VST subsystem is in a dll, so it may be small enough that I can reverse engineer it. The MIDI subsystem is in a dll, too. I'd like to take a crack at getting rid of the MIDI engine errors.

All the best!

Mike
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where could one obtain these 'beta' asio drivers in the meantime?

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Re: PARIS ASIO/Scherzo64 Coming along very nicely! [message #107494 is a reply to message #107476] Mon, 25 February 2013 11:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Mike,

That's great news about the Win7 driver and new asio! (yeah!)

I'm also glad that you are working towards incorporating Paris with Reaper. Right now I have Reaper synced with Paris using MTC following Paris during play. However, when paris is stopped, editing in Reaper takes some coordination since the current control 16 is not compatible with Reaper.

Just like to say your approach with Reaper and control 16 is very innovative and I'm hoping for the best!

Thanks, Inkycu
Re: PARIS ASIO/Scherzo64 Coming along very nicely! [message #107508 is a reply to message #107480] Fri, 01 March 2013 06:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Lobit,

The beta ASIO driver that Kerry alluded to passed 16 bit audio only and crashed if it was closed and then reopened. There was no control panel and no c16 MIDI support. It was a very, very early build.

I'll get the new driver done as soon as I can. We had bad weather this week, so my mom wasn't able to come up and look after my daughter. That meant I got no PARIS time this week. Sad

But, I'll be on this as soon as I can.

All the best,

Mike
Re: PARIS ASIO/Scherzo64 Coming along very nicely! [message #107516 is a reply to message #107508] Sat, 02 March 2013 12:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I just recorded 8 tracks simultaneously under Windows 7 64 without PARIS breaking a sweat. Smile

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Oh man, this is amazing!!!

"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
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Hi Mike,

Okay...now that you've totally teased us with the image of the successfully recorded 8 tracks with PARIS in Win7 x64, how much longer are you going to put is though our "chomping at the bit"? Smile

That's great to know you're getting that much closer to the release of the drivers. Any guess as to when that might be? What will the price be for the drivers?

Off topic....

In case you haven't heard of Leap Motion, check out www.leapmotion.com. It's a company who's about to release a very cool new 3D [hand & finger] gesture interface for computers. The leap device is 4" x 1.25" x .5" high. It connects via USB. It works like the hand gesture device in the movie Minority Report with Tom Cruise. I signed up to be a developer to create apps for the leap device. I'm going to do stuff with midi and to control DAW's. Check it out.

Cheers,
JON
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Hi Jon,

The new controller looks very cool! I can't wait to see what you do with it.

I'm just looking into how to do the installer for the driver and PARIS 3.0. Microsoft has one, but it only comes with the $800 version of VC++, and I don't have that version.

I just ordered a book on the Microsoft Installer (MSI files). It should be here Wednesday. I'm looking at other options, too. It looks like installers are a bigger PITA than I would like.

As a total aside, I think I may have just found a way to get Cakewalk Pro Audio 9 to have better MIDI timing and sync under Windows XP/VISTA/7. I was reading through my Windows via c++ for info on the Windows installer. I didn't find any, but I found some good hints on dll injection, and that could mean I can tighten up the timer for the process in two or three lines of code...

All the best!

Mike
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If the $800 installer is the best way to get this done, let us know, Mike. We'll chip in and get it for you.

Thank you once again for all your amazing hard work. You are the soul of PARIS - I think you've been working on it longer than any of the original developers at this point.
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Thanks so much for the kind words, Matt,

The book was a bust. It should be called "everything you need to know about Windows Installer - except how to make one."

But, I found an affordable installer package that looks like it will do everything we need. I'll be starting to build it this afternoon.

All the best!

Mike
Re: PARIS ASIO/Scherzo64 Coming along very nicely! [message #107526 is a reply to message #107525] Wed, 06 March 2013 10:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
carlamburn is currently offline  carlamburn   UNITED STATES
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This is cool. Way to be, Mr. Audet!
Re: PARIS ASIO/Scherzo64 Coming along very nicely! [message #107529 is a reply to message #107526] Thu, 07 March 2013 13:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mikeaudet   CANADA
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Just an update:

The installer section of the installer is done and works, and I'm working on the uninstaller.

I just applied for a Microsoft Authenticode certificate so that the driver will be signed.

Things are going very well.

Mike
Re: PARIS ASIO/Scherzo64 Coming along very nicely! [message #107530 is a reply to message #107529] Thu, 07 March 2013 16:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey Mike,

Thanks for the update! And of course, for your all time and effort.

Here's a big thumbs up!

JON

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Re: PARIS ASIO/Scherzo64 Coming along very nicely! [message #107531 is a reply to message #107530] Sat, 09 March 2013 11:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mikeaudet   CANADA
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More good news:

I just got the PARIS virtual MIDI driver to run under Windows 7/64. It only works in 32 bit apps, but I've currently got Cakewalk 9 syncing to PARIS via MTC, and that is very cool.

The second cool thing is that PARIS 2.0 depends on the Paris MIDI driver (it won't start if the PARIS MIDI driver is not present), and now it runs under Windows 7 64, too!

I've added PARIS 2 and the MIDI driver to the installer.

Cheers!

Mike

Re: PARIS ASIO/Scherzo64 Coming along very nicely! [message #107532 is a reply to message #107531] Sun, 10 March 2013 05:50 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
dnafe is currently offline  dnafe   CANADA
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Here's a huge thanks for your efforts Mike

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