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| Wormhole tutorial [message #74606] |
Sun, 22 October 2006 03:59  |
Dimitrios
Messages: 1056
Registered: August 2005
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Hi,
Brandon and whoever is interested.
To use wormhole is dead easy !!
I tried it after some good months in a few minutes really great working.
First I use wormhole in cubase where it is in start mode giving a name like
track1
Now on Paris I open wormhole (wrapped from FXpansion 3.3) and I put an EMPTY
24bit file (although 16 bit could work too but why not have full 24 bits
at least ?)
I made this file with wavelab recording silence and copying mulytiole silent
segments until I got a 5 minute 24 bit empty file.
PARIS MUST PLAY in order to receive the audio from Cubase.
In wormhole in Paris you choose from the 'chooser" the track1-end
where in cubase it is track1-start
I don't know why you are not getting any results ?
Oh one thing is PARIS UNDER XP ??? because I think Me or win98 does not work
with wormhole,if I remember correctly !
ALSO
Do not use wormhole to send to cubase and then back
In order to wormhole right you have tochoose alatency around 10.000 which
is big latency so no easy compensation.
What I SUGGEST is:
Use any great vst/dx sequncer like Cubase,Nuendo,Samplitude ,DP, Sawstudio,
or whatever and process natively there without moving the faders in there,
leave them at 0 !!!
Then with wormhole send as much as 24 audio tracks (Pentium 4 2.6ghz with
Paris) in Paris for summong and EDS effects only.
Native effects do not work under Paris this way and why should ??
Thats the best way to use Paris !
Note wormhgole is sending 32bit floating so Paris truncates to 24 bit integer
(I guess) so better than adat interfacing !
Works SAMPLE ACCURATE if you ONLY wrap it with FXpansion 3.3 , and I mean
ONLY !!
No other wrapper , standalone, can achieve sync !!
It is fine with me.
Ther will be a delay in hearing Paris wormhole tracks after you press play
on Cubase , remember 10000 samples but anyway so what...
If you wanna use Paris transport use ,idi synchronization, MTC so each time
you pusah play on Paris cubase follows.
Amother tip is to have paris in LOOP mode for say 4 bars so it will always
play the wormholed tracks no matter when you push play in Cubase.
SEPARATE machines !
No luck on same computer.
Regards,
Dimitriuos
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| Re: Wormhole tutorial [message #74607 is a reply to message #74606] |
Sun, 22 October 2006 04:05  |
Dimitrios
Messages: 1056
Registered: August 2005
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"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
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>Hi,
>Brandon and whoever is interested.
>To use wormhole is dead easy !!
>I tried it after some good months in a few minutes really great working.
>
>First I use wormhole in cubase where it is in start mode giving a name like
>track1
>Now on Paris I open wormhole (wrapped from FXpansion 3.3) and I put an EMPTY
>24bit file (although 16 bit could work too but why not have full 24 bits
>at least ?)
>I made this file with wavelab recording silence and copying mulytiole silent
>segments until I got a 5 minute 24 bit empty file.
>PARIS MUST PLAY in order to receive the audio from Cubase.
>In wormhole in Paris you choose from the 'chooser" the track1-end
>where in cubase it is track1-start
>I don't know why you are not getting any results ?
>Oh one thing is PARIS UNDER XP ??? because I think Me or win98 does not
work
>with wormhole,if I remember correctly !
>ALSO
>Do not use wormhole to send to cubase and then back
>In order to wormhole right you have tochoose alatency around 10.000 which
>is big latency so no easy compensation.
>What I SUGGEST is:
>Use any great vst/dx sequncer like Cubase,Nuendo,Samplitude ,DP, Sawstudio,
>or whatever and process natively there without moving the faders in there,
>leave them at 0 !!!
>Then with wormhole send as much as 24 audio tracks (Pentium 4 2.6ghz with
>Paris) in Paris for summong and EDS effects only.
>Native effects do not work under Paris this way and why should ??
>Thats the best way to use Paris !
>Note wormhgole is sending 32bit floating so Paris truncates to 24 bit integer
>(I guess) so better than adat interfacing !
>Works SAMPLE ACCURATE if you ONLY wrap it with FXpansion 3.3 , and I mean
>ONLY !!
>No other wrapper , standalone, can achieve sync !!
>It is fine with me.
>Ther will be a delay in hearing Paris wormhole tracks after you press play
>on Cubase , remember 10000 samples but anyway so what...
>If you wanna use Paris transport use ,idi synchronization, MTC so each time
>you pusah play on Paris cubase follows.
>Amother tip is to have paris in LOOP mode for say 4 bars so it will always
>play the wormholed tracks no matter when you push play in Cubase.
>SEPARATE machines !
>No luck on same computer.
>Regards,
>Dimitriuos
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| Re: Wormhole tutorial [message #74608 is a reply to message #74606] |
Sun, 22 October 2006 04:14 |
Dimitrios
Messages: 1056
Registered: August 2005
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Some things more.
On cubase wormhole instance click the sync button as to be checked, thus
you can have synced intanses.
On Paris wormhole intanse will read:
"receiving from 192.168.0.1- end-instances synced"
Only then you know you are sample accurate syncing.
another tip.
I use for Cuabse computer 192.168.0.1 ethernet address and 192.168.0.2 for
Paris, I find this way extremely stable ethernet connection.
ANOTHER thing that might be important for some of you:
Use the farmostr latency slider on Cubase wormhole (32768) and use instead
of 10.000 5395 in Paris (I managed without clicks at least four tracks ,could
have tried more but no time right now) buffer so as to have audio tracks
on both machines sound at the same time when "play through" is used in CVubase
wormhole intanses.
Regards,
Dimitrios
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>
>Hi,
>Brandon and whoever is interested.
>To use wormhole is dead easy !!
>I tried it after some good months in a few minutes really great working.
>
>First I use wormhole in cubase where it is in start mode giving a name like
>track1
>Now on Paris I open wormhole (wrapped from FXpansion 3.3) and I put an EMPTY
>24bit file (although 16 bit could work too but why not have full 24 bits
>at least ?)
>I made this file with wavelab recording silence and copying mulytiole silent
>segments until I got a 5 minute 24 bit empty file.
>PARIS MUST PLAY in order to receive the audio from Cubase.
>In wormhole in Paris you choose from the 'chooser" the track1-end
>where in cubase it is track1-start
>I don't know why you are not getting any results ?
>Oh one thing is PARIS UNDER XP ??? because I think Me or win98 does not
work
>with wormhole,if I remember correctly !
>ALSO
>Do not use wormhole to send to cubase and then back
>In order to wormhole right you have tochoose alatency around 10.000 which
>is big latency so no easy compensation.
>What I SUGGEST is:
>Use any great vst/dx sequncer like Cubase,Nuendo,Samplitude ,DP, Sawstudio,
>or whatever and process natively there without moving the faders in there,
>leave them at 0 !!!
>Then with wormhole send as much as 24 audio tracks (Pentium 4 2.6ghz with
>Paris) in Paris for summong and EDS effects only.
>Native effects do not work under Paris this way and why should ??
>Thats the best way to use Paris !
>Note wormhgole is sending 32bit floating so Paris truncates to 24 bit integer
>(I guess) so better than adat interfacing !
>Works SAMPLE ACCURATE if you ONLY wrap it with FXpansion 3.3 , and I mean
>ONLY !!
>No other wrapper , standalone, can achieve sync !!
>It is fine with me.
>Ther will be a delay in hearing Paris wormhole tracks after you press play
>on Cubase , remember 10000 samples but anyway so what...
>If you wanna use Paris transport use ,idi synchronization, MTC so each time
>you pusah play on Paris cubase follows.
>Amother tip is to have paris in LOOP mode for say 4 bars so it will always
>play the wormholed tracks no matter when you push play in Cubase.
>SEPARATE machines !
>No luck on same computer.
>Regards,
>Dimitriuos
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| Re: Wormhole tutorial [message #74630 is a reply to message #74608] |
Sun, 22 October 2006 11:25 |
brandon[2]
Messages: 380
Registered: June 2006
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Dimitrios,
Thanks for all the info.
I was not using a silent track and I was not pushing PLAY in PARIS.
Also, I am trying it on one computer.
You are saying you couldnt get it to work between apps on one computer?
What did you try?
This is my only option right now so I have to get it to work.
I will let you know what I come up with.
Thx,
B
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>
>Some things more.
>On cubase wormhole instance click the sync button as to be checked, thus
>you can have synced intanses.
>On Paris wormhole intanse will read:
>"receiving from 192.168.0.1- end-instances synced"
>Only then you know you are sample accurate syncing.
>another tip.
>I use for Cuabse computer 192.168.0.1 ethernet address and 192.168.0.2 for
>Paris, I find this way extremely stable ethernet connection.
>ANOTHER thing that might be important for some of you:
>Use the farmostr latency slider on Cubase wormhole (32768) and use instead
>of 10.000 5395 in Paris (I managed without clicks at least four tracks ,could
>have tried more but no time right now) buffer so as to have audio tracks
>on both machines sound at the same time when "play through" is used in CVubase
>wormhole intanses.
>Regards,
>Dimitrios
>
>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
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>>Hi,
>>Brandon and whoever is interested.
>>To use wormhole is dead easy !!
>>I tried it after some good months in a few minutes really great working.
>>
>>First I use wormhole in cubase where it is in start mode giving a name
like
>>track1
>>Now on Paris I open wormhole (wrapped from FXpansion 3.3) and I put an
EMPTY
>>24bit file (although 16 bit could work too but why not have full 24 bits
>>at least ?)
>>I made this file with wavelab recording silence and copying mulytiole silent
>>segments until I got a 5 minute 24 bit empty file.
>>PARIS MUST PLAY in order to receive the audio from Cubase.
>>In wormhole in Paris you choose from the 'chooser" the track1-end
>>where in cubase it is track1-start
>>I don't know why you are not getting any results ?
>>Oh one thing is PARIS UNDER XP ??? because I think Me or win98 does not
>work
>>with wormhole,if I remember correctly !
>>ALSO
>>Do not use wormhole to send to cubase and then back
>>In order to wormhole right you have tochoose alatency around 10.000 which
>>is big latency so no easy compensation.
>>What I SUGGEST is:
>>Use any great vst/dx sequncer like Cubase,Nuendo,Samplitude ,DP, Sawstudio,
>>or whatever and process natively there without moving the faders in there,
>>leave them at 0 !!!
>>Then with wormhole send as much as 24 audio tracks (Pentium 4 2.6ghz with
>>Paris) in Paris for summong and EDS effects only.
>>Native effects do not work under Paris this way and why should ??
>>Thats the best way to use Paris !
>>Note wormhgole is sending 32bit floating so Paris truncates to 24 bit integer
>>(I guess) so better than adat interfacing !
>>Works SAMPLE ACCURATE if you ONLY wrap it with FXpansion 3.3 , and I mean
>>ONLY !!
>>No other wrapper , standalone, can achieve sync !!
>>It is fine with me.
>>Ther will be a delay in hearing Paris wormhole tracks after you press play
>>on Cubase , remember 10000 samples but anyway so what...
>>If you wanna use Paris transport use ,idi synchronization, MTC so each
time
>>you pusah play on Paris cubase follows.
>>Amother tip is to have paris in LOOP mode for say 4 bars so it will always
>>play the wormholed tracks no matter when you push play in Cubase.
>>SEPARATE machines !
>>No luck on same computer.
>>Regards,
>>Dimitriuos
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| Re: Wormhole tutorial [message #74631 is a reply to message #74630] |
Sun, 22 October 2006 11:28 |
brandon[2]
Messages: 380
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Dimitrios,
Also, is musurgio@otenet.gr a valid email address?
THX,B
"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
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>Dimitrios,
>
>Thanks for all the info.
>I was not using a silent track and I was not pushing PLAY in PARIS.
>Also, I am trying it on one computer.
>You are saying you couldnt get it to work between apps on one computer?
>What did you try?
>This is my only option right now so I have to get it to work.
>I will let you know what I come up with.
>
>Thx,
>B
>
>
>
>
>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>
>>Some things more.
>>On cubase wormhole instance click the sync button as to be checked, thus
>>you can have synced intanses.
>>On Paris wormhole intanse will read:
>>"receiving from 192.168.0.1- end-instances synced"
>>Only then you know you are sample accurate syncing.
>>another tip.
>>I use for Cuabse computer 192.168.0.1 ethernet address and 192.168.0.2
for
>>Paris, I find this way extremely stable ethernet connection.
>>ANOTHER thing that might be important for some of you:
>>Use the farmostr latency slider on Cubase wormhole (32768) and use instead
>>of 10.000 5395 in Paris (I managed without clicks at least four tracks
,could
>>have tried more but no time right now) buffer so as to have audio tracks
>>on both machines sound at the same time when "play through" is used in
CVubase
>>wormhole intanses.
>>Regards,
>>Dimitrios
>>
>>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi,
>>>Brandon and whoever is interested.
>>>To use wormhole is dead easy !!
>>>I tried it after some good months in a few minutes really great working.
>>>
>>>First I use wormhole in cubase where it is in start mode giving a name
>like
>>>track1
>>>Now on Paris I open wormhole (wrapped from FXpansion 3.3) and I put an
>EMPTY
>>>24bit file (although 16 bit could work too but why not have full 24 bits
>>>at least ?)
>>>I made this file with wavelab recording silence and copying mulytiole
silent
>>>segments until I got a 5 minute 24 bit empty file.
>>>PARIS MUST PLAY in order to receive the audio from Cubase.
>>>In wormhole in Paris you choose from the 'chooser" the track1-end
>>>where in cubase it is track1-start
>>>I don't know why you are not getting any results ?
>>>Oh one thing is PARIS UNDER XP ??? because I think Me or win98 does not
>>work
>>>with wormhole,if I remember correctly !
>>>ALSO
>>>Do not use wormhole to send to cubase and then back
>>>In order to wormhole right you have tochoose alatency around 10.000 which
>>>is big latency so no easy compensation.
>>>What I SUGGEST is:
>>>Use any great vst/dx sequncer like Cubase,Nuendo,Samplitude ,DP, Sawstudio,
>>>or whatever and process natively there without moving the faders in there,
>>>leave them at 0 !!!
>>>Then with wormhole send as much as 24 audio tracks (Pentium 4 2.6ghz with
>>>Paris) in Paris for summong and EDS effects only.
>>>Native effects do not work under Paris this way and why should ??
>>>Thats the best way to use Paris !
>>>Note wormhgole is sending 32bit floating so Paris truncates to 24 bit
integer
>>>(I guess) so better than adat interfacing !
>>>Works SAMPLE ACCURATE if you ONLY wrap it with FXpansion 3.3 , and I mean
>>>ONLY !!
>>>No other wrapper , standalone, can achieve sync !!
>>>It is fine with me.
>>>Ther will be a delay in hearing Paris wormhole tracks after you press
play
>>>on Cubase , remember 10000 samples but anyway so what...
>>>If you wanna use Paris transport use ,idi synchronization, MTC so each
>time
>>>you pusah play on Paris cubase follows.
>>>Amother tip is to have paris in LOOP mode for say 4 bars so it will always
>>>play the wormholed tracks no matter when you push play in Cubase.
>>>SEPARATE machines !
>>>No luck on same computer.
>>>Regards,
>>>Dimitriuos
>>
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| Re: Wormhole tutorial [message #74640 is a reply to message #74631] |
Sun, 22 October 2006 12:16 |
Dimitrios
Messages: 1056
Registered: August 2005
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Yes
"brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
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>Dimitrios,
>
>Also, is musurgio@otenet.gr a valid email address?
>
>THX,B
>
>"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>>
>>Dimitrios,
>>
>>Thanks for all the info.
>>I was not using a silent track and I was not pushing PLAY in PARIS.
>>Also, I am trying it on one computer.
>>You are saying you couldnt get it to work between apps on one computer?
>>What did you try?
>>This is my only option right now so I have to get it to work.
>>I will let you know what I come up with.
>>
>>Thx,
>>B
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>>
>>>Some things more.
>>>On cubase wormhole instance click the sync button as to be checked, thus
>>>you can have synced intanses.
>>>On Paris wormhole intanse will read:
>>>"receiving from 192.168.0.1- end-instances synced"
>>>Only then you know you are sample accurate syncing.
>>>another tip.
>>>I use for Cuabse computer 192.168.0.1 ethernet address and 192.168.0.2
>for
>>>Paris, I find this way extremely stable ethernet connection.
>>>ANOTHER thing that might be important for some of you:
>>>Use the farmostr latency slider on Cubase wormhole (32768) and use instead
>>>of 10.000 5395 in Paris (I managed without clicks at least four tracks
>,could
>>>have tried more but no time right now) buffer so as to have audio tracks
>>>on both machines sound at the same time when "play through" is used in
>CVubase
>>>wormhole intanses.
>>>Regards,
>>>Dimitrios
>>>
>>>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>Brandon and whoever is interested.
>>>>To use wormhole is dead easy !!
>>>>I tried it after some good months in a few minutes really great working.
>>>>
>>>>First I use wormhole in cubase where it is in start mode giving a name
>>like
>>>>track1
>>>>Now on Paris I open wormhole (wrapped from FXpansion 3.3) and I put an
>>EMPTY
>>>>24bit file (although 16 bit could work too but why not have full 24 bits
>>>>at least ?)
>>>>I made this file with wavelab recording silence and copying mulytiole
>silent
>>>>segments until I got a 5 minute 24 bit empty file.
>>>>PARIS MUST PLAY in order to receive the audio from Cubase.
>>>>In wormhole in Paris you choose from the 'chooser" the track1-end
>>>>where in cubase it is track1-start
>>>>I don't know why you are not getting any results ?
>>>>Oh one thing is PARIS UNDER XP ??? because I think Me or win98 does not
>>>work
>>>>with wormhole,if I remember correctly !
>>>>ALSO
>>>>Do not use wormhole to send to cubase and then back
>>>>In order to wormhole right you have tochoose alatency around 10.000 which
>>>>is big latency so no easy compensation.
>>>>What I SUGGEST is:
>>>>Use any great vst/dx sequncer like Cubase,Nuendo,Samplitude ,DP, Sawstudio,
>>>>or whatever and process natively there without moving the faders in there,
>>>>leave them at 0 !!!
>>>>Then with wormhole send as much as 24 audio tracks (Pentium 4 2.6ghz
with
>>>>Paris) in Paris for summong and EDS effects only.
>>>>Native effects do not work under Paris this way and why should ??
>>>>Thats the best way to use Paris !
>>>>Note wormhgole is sending 32bit floating so Paris truncates to 24 bit
>integer
>>>>(I guess) so better than adat interfacing !
>>>>Works SAMPLE ACCURATE if you ONLY wrap it with FXpansion 3.3 , and I
mean
>>>>ONLY !!
>>>>No other wrapper , standalone, can achieve sync !!
>>>>It is fine with me.
>>>>Ther will be a delay in hearing Paris wormhole tracks after you press
>play
>>>>on Cubase , remember 10000 samples but anyway so what...
>>>>If you wanna use Paris transport use ,idi synchronization, MTC so each
>>time
>>>>you pusah play on Paris cubase follows.
>>>>Amother tip is to have paris in LOOP mode for say 4 bars so it will always
>>>>play the wormholed tracks no matter when you push play in Cubase.
>>>>SEPARATE machines !
>>>>No luck on same computer.
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Dimitriuos
>>>
>>
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| Re: Wormhole tutorial [message #74686 is a reply to message #74607] |
Mon, 23 October 2006 11:51 |
TC
Messages: 327
Registered: September 2005
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Hi Dimitrios,
I've got it working for one track. I'm trying to get a few more tracks going, but it's super sketchy even with the one.
What should the buffer setting be in Paris? I've got it cranked right now.
Maybe my Paris PC is underpowered for this, it's an AMD 1.24 Ghz processor..
Cheers,
TC
Dimitrios wrote:
> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Brandon and whoever is interested.
>> To use wormhole is dead easy !!
>> I tried it after some good months in a few minutes really great working.
>>
>> First I use wormhole in cubase where it is in start mode giving a name like
>> track1
>> Now on Paris I open wormhole (wrapped from FXpansion 3.3) and I put an EMPTY
>> 24bit file (although 16 bit could work too but why not have full 24 bits
>> at least ?)
>> I made this file with wavelab recording silence and copying mulytiole silent
>> segments until I got a 5 minute 24 bit empty file.
>> PARIS MUST PLAY in order to receive the audio from Cubase.
>> In wormhole in Paris you choose from the 'chooser" the track1-end
>> where in cubase it is track1-start
>> I don't know why you are not getting any results ?
>> Oh one thing is PARIS UNDER XP ??? because I think Me or win98 does not
> work
>> with wormhole,if I remember correctly !
>> ALSO
>> Do not use wormhole to send to cubase and then back
>> In order to wormhole right you have tochoose alatency around 10.000 which
>> is big latency so no easy compensation.
>> What I SUGGEST is:
>> Use any great vst/dx sequncer like Cubase,Nuendo,Samplitude ,DP, Sawstudio,
>> or whatever and process natively there without moving the faders in there,
>> leave them at 0 !!!
>> Then with wormhole send as much as 24 audio tracks (Pentium 4 2.6ghz with
>> Paris) in Paris for summong and EDS effects only.
>> Native effects do not work under Paris this way and why should ??
>> Thats the best way to use Paris !
>> Note wormhgole is sending 32bit floating so Paris truncates to 24 bit integer
>> (I guess) so better than adat interfacing !
>> Works SAMPLE ACCURATE if you ONLY wrap it with FXpansion 3.3 , and I mean
>> ONLY !!
>> No other wrapper , standalone, can achieve sync !!
>> It is fine with me.
>> Ther will be a delay in hearing Paris wormhole tracks after you press play
>> on Cubase , remember 10000 samples but anyway so what...
>> If you wanna use Paris transport use ,idi synchronization, MTC so each time
>> you pusah play on Paris cubase follows.
>> Amother tip is to have paris in LOOP mode for say 4 bars so it will always
>> play the wormholed tracks no matter when you push play in Cubase.
>> SEPARATE machines !
>> No luck on same computer.
>> Regards,
>> Dimitriuos
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| Re: Wormhole tutorial [message #74688 is a reply to message #74686] |
Mon, 23 October 2006 12:00 |
Dimitrios
Messages: 1056
Registered: August 2005
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Put the buffer slider on Paris way beyond 4000 samples until it stops crackling.
Will work.
Regards,
Dimitrios
TC <tc@spammetodeathyoubastards.org> wrote:
>Hi Dimitrios,
>
>I've got it working for one track. I'm trying to get a few more tracks
going, but it's
>super sketchy even with the one.
>
>What should the buffer setting be in Paris? I've got it cranked right now.
>
>Maybe my Paris PC is underpowered for this, it's an AMD 1.24 Ghz processor..
>
>Cheers,
>
>TC
>
>
>
>Dimitrios wrote:
>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> Brandon and whoever is interested.
>>> To use wormhole is dead easy !!
>>> I tried it after some good months in a few minutes really great working.
>>>
>>> First I use wormhole in cubase where it is in start mode giving a name
like
>>> track1
>>> Now on Paris I open wormhole (wrapped from FXpansion 3.3) and I put an
EMPTY
>>> 24bit file (although 16 bit could work too but why not have full 24 bits
>>> at least ?)
>>> I made this file with wavelab recording silence and copying mulytiole
silent
>>> segments until I got a 5 minute 24 bit empty file.
>>> PARIS MUST PLAY in order to receive the audio from Cubase.
>>> In wormhole in Paris you choose from the 'chooser" the track1-end
>>> where in cubase it is track1-start
>>> I don't know why you are not getting any results ?
>>> Oh one thing is PARIS UNDER XP ??? because I think Me or win98 does not
>> work
>>> with wormhole,if I remember correctly !
>>> ALSO
>>> Do not use wormhole to send to cubase and then back
>>> In order to wormhole right you have tochoose alatency around 10.000 which
>>> is big latency so no easy compensation.
>>> What I SUGGEST is:
>>> Use any great vst/dx sequncer like Cubase,Nuendo,Samplitude ,DP, Sawstudio,
>>> or whatever and process natively there without moving the faders in there,
>>> leave them at 0 !!!
>>> Then with wormhole send as much as 24 audio tracks (Pentium 4 2.6ghz
with
>>> Paris) in Paris for summong and EDS effects only.
>>> Native effects do not work under Paris this way and why should ??
>>> Thats the best way to use Paris !
>>> Note wormhgole is sending 32bit floating so Paris truncates to 24 bit
integer
>>> (I guess) so better than adat interfacing !
>>> Works SAMPLE ACCURATE if you ONLY wrap it with FXpansion 3.3 , and I
mean
>>> ONLY !!
>>> No other wrapper , standalone, can achieve sync !!
>>> It is fine with me.
>>> Ther will be a delay in hearing Paris wormhole tracks after you press
play
>>> on Cubase , remember 10000 samples but anyway so what...
>>> If you wanna use Paris transport use ,idi synchronization, MTC so each
time
>>> you pusah play on Paris cubase follows.
>>> Amother tip is to have paris in LOOP mode for say 4 bars so it will always
>>> play the wormholed tracks no matter when you push play in Cubase.
>>> SEPARATE machines !
>>> No luck on same computer.
>>> Regards,
>>> Dimitriuos
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| Re: Wormhole tutorial [message #74797 is a reply to message #74782] |
Wed, 25 October 2006 06:59 |
brandon[2]
Messages: 380
Registered: June 2006
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Additionally,
I tried using Wires to send from the WH2 channel to another channel and
record that channel.
That didnt work either.
Here is Plasq's response:
Adrian
Admin
Admin
Posts: 28
Well, at least I got it working. I am going to try and send a loop
starting from inside PARIS on the same computer. Re:CubaseSX to PARIS Same
Computer - 2006/10/25 22:03 Wormhole just transfers audio from one insert
slot to another. How you record that is a problem of the DAW. It might not
be possible in basic DAWs.
Unfortunately, we do not know Paris, so I can't tell you how to do
that. It's the same as recording any plugin output. In most hosts it works
by routing the audio to a bus and recording the bus.
--
Thanks,
Brandon
"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote in message news:453ecae6$1@linux...
>
> Cuase SX 2.0.1 sending to PARIS 3.0.
> Both instances wrapped fxpansion3.3.
> Same Computer.
>
> Ok, here is the deal.
> I opened an instance of WH2 in Cubase SX 2.0.1.
> I named it"test".
> I selected "start".
> I opened an instance of WH2 in PARIS 3.0.
> I selected Test-end.
> I selected "end"
> I placed a 6 minute audio slice of silence on the channel in PARIS 3.0.
> I pushed play in Cubase.
> I pushed play in PARIS.
> It worked I got a connection and I could here the audio coming thru the
> channel in PARIS.
> NOW HERE"S THE PROBLEM....
> I can't record the WH2 signal in PARIS!
> I press record in PARIS and it just records silence over the silence I
already
> got there.
> I have to place the monitoring selection to During Record Only.
> Otherwise when I record enable the track the signal goes silent.
> When During Record Only is selected the signal keeps playing when record
> enabled, but just records silence.
> What could cause this?
>
> Thanks,
> Brandon
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| Re: Wormhole tutorial [message #74800 is a reply to message #74797] |
Wed, 25 October 2006 07:02 |
brandon[2]
Messages: 380
Registered: June 2006
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Sorry here is plasq's response:
Wormhole just transfers audio from one insert slot to another. How you
record that is a problem of the DAW. It might not be possible in basic DAWs.
Unfortunately, we do not know Paris, so I can't tell you how to do that.
It's the same as recording any plugin output. In most hosts it works by
routing the audio to a bus and recording the bus.
Thanks,
Brandon
"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote in message news:453f6bb8$1@linux...
> Additionally,
> I tried using Wires to send from the WH2 channel to another channel and
> record that channel.
> That didnt work either.
>
> Here is Plasq's response:
>
> Adrian
> Admin
>
> Admin
> Posts: 28
>
>
> Well, at least I got it working. I am going to try and send a loop
> starting from inside PARIS on the same computer. Re:CubaseSX to PARIS Same
> Computer - 2006/10/25 22:03 Wormhole just transfers audio from one insert
> slot to another. How you record that is a problem of the DAW. It might not
> be possible in basic DAWs.
>
> Unfortunately, we do not know Paris, so I can't tell you how to do
> that. It's the same as recording any plugin output. In most hosts it works
> by routing the audio to a bus and recording the bus.
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
>
> Brandon
>
>
>
> "Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote in message news:453ecae6$1@linux...
> >
> > Cuase SX 2.0.1 sending to PARIS 3.0.
> > Both instances wrapped fxpansion3.3.
> > Same Computer.
> >
> > Ok, here is the deal.
> > I opened an instance of WH2 in Cubase SX 2.0.1.
> > I named it"test".
> > I selected "start".
> > I opened an instance of WH2 in PARIS 3.0.
> > I selected Test-end.
> > I selected "end"
> > I placed a 6 minute audio slice of silence on the channel in PARIS 3.0.
> > I pushed play in Cubase.
> > I pushed play in PARIS.
> > It worked I got a connection and I could here the audio coming thru the
> > channel in PARIS.
> > NOW HERE"S THE PROBLEM....
> > I can't record the WH2 signal in PARIS!
> > I press record in PARIS and it just records silence over the silence I
> already
> > got there.
> > I have to place the monitoring selection to During Record Only.
> > Otherwise when I record enable the track the signal goes silent.
> > When During Record Only is selected the signal keeps playing when record
> > enabled, but just records silence.
> > What could cause this?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Brandon
>
>
>
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| Re: Wormhole tutorial [message #74807 is a reply to message #74800] |
Wed, 25 October 2006 08:33 |
Dimitrios
Messages: 1056
Registered: August 2005
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Senior Member |
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Dear Brandon,
Paris is not able to record the wormholing track.
But why do you need to do that ?
Let Paris be your realtime (well alomost realtime but some good samples latent)
mixer.
Do all of you work under your "other" daw and let Parisjust fade pan eq and
eds process.
Regards,
Dimitrios
"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>Sorry here is plasq's response:
>
>Wormhole just transfers audio from one insert slot to another. How you
>record that is a problem of the DAW. It might not be possible in basic DAWs.
>
>Unfortunately, we do not know Paris, so I can't tell you how to do that.
>It's the same as recording any plugin output. In most hosts it works by
>routing the audio to a bus and recording the bus.
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Brandon
>
>"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote in message news:453f6bb8$1@linux...
>> Additionally,
>> I tried using Wires to send from the WH2 channel to another channel and
>> record that channel.
>> That didnt work either.
>>
>> Here is Plasq's response:
>>
>> Adrian
>> Admin
>>
>> Admin
>> Posts: 28
>>
>>
>> Well, at least I got it working. I am going to try and send a loop
>> starting from inside PARIS on the same computer. Re:CubaseSX to PARIS
Same
>> Computer - 2006/10/25 22:03 Wormhole just transfers audio from one insert
>> slot to another. How you record that is a problem of the DAW. It might
not
>> be possible in basic DAWs.
>>
>> Unfortunately, we do not know Paris, so I can't tell you how to
do
>> that. It's the same as recording any plugin output. In most hosts it works
>> by routing the audio to a bus and recording the bus.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Brandon
>>
>>
>>
>> "Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote in message news:453ecae6$1@linux...
>> >
>> > Cuase SX 2.0.1 sending to PARIS 3.0.
>> > Both instances wrapped fxpansion3.3.
>> > Same Computer.
>> >
>> > Ok, here is the deal.
>> > I opened an instance of WH2 in Cubase SX 2.0.1.
>> > I named it"test".
>> > I selected "start".
>> > I opened an instance of WH2 in PARIS 3.0.
>> > I selected Test-end.
>> > I selected "end"
>> > I placed a 6 minute audio slice of silence on the channel in PARIS 3.0.
>> > I pushed play in Cubase.
>> > I pushed play in PARIS.
>> > It worked I got a connection and I could here the audio coming thru
the
>> > channel in PARIS.
>> > NOW HERE"S THE PROBLEM....
>> > I can't record the WH2 signal in PARIS!
>> > I press record in PARIS and it just records silence over the silence
I
>> already
>> > got there.
>> > I have to place the monitoring selection to During Record Only.
>> > Otherwise when I record enable the track the signal goes silent.
>> > When During Record Only is selected the signal keeps playing when record
>> > enabled, but just records silence.
>> > What could cause this?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Brandon
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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