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DJ--Ribbon Mics? [message #56186]

Sat, 23 July 2005 21:26

John Macy
Messages: 242
Registered: April 2006

Senior Member

message
> news:42e3186d$1@linux...
> >
> > Weren't you liking the Nady Chinese ribbon
> > mic? We tried out the PPA version and liked it, and
> > then found yet another rebadged version from
> >
> > www.shinybox.com
> >
> > We bought a couple, and they are pretty cool, and
> > look better (round grill instead of the wedge, and a
> > nice small ShinyBox logo, and the XLR is mounted on
> > the rear instead of the attached cable. Best yet, he
> > sells them for $165, including the bad and a nice,
> > vertical metal case, too.

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Re: DJ--Ribbon Mics? [message #56188 is a reply to message #56186]

Sat, 23 July 2005 21:33

Deej [1]

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Registered: January 2006

Senior Member

've got Mytek 96kHz A/D converter here and I've spent part
of
>the day getting this happening in a situation where I can actually track
to
>SX and achieve a hi rez D/A conversion so I can use my headphone monitoring
>system in a real life tracking scenario. I've also purchased an RME
>Multiface and PCI card which will be integrated into the dual DAW situation
>I've got going here and will also provide me the capability of doing limited
>(10 tracks simultaneously) tracking sessions at 96kHz - gotta' be able to
>advertize this. I'm one of two studios that can't do hi rez and I feel like
>I need the capability, if for no other reason than to just say that I can.
>I've also got DVD authoring capabilities in Wavelab 5.0. I'm real curious
to
>know if it's really *that much better* than Paris at 44.1, both in a
>scenario where I am tracking 96kHz and then doing a SRC to 44.1and comparing
>this to Paris and also just comparing a small mix of a number of acoustic
>instruments at 96kHz in SX vs the same bunch of instruments in Paris at
>44.1.
>
>The Multiface should be here mid week and I'm sure I'll have to do a bit
of
>IRQ chasing to get my DAW happy with this and the existing pair of HDSP
>9652's.
>
>I'll keep the group posted about this and if someone else has done/is doing
>this already, I'd be really interested in hear

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Re: DJ--Ribbon Mics? [message #56189 is a reply to message #56188]

Sat, 23 July 2005 21:35

John Macy
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Registered: April 2006

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ing your impressions of the
>comparisons.
>
>Rick, Dedric, Dave, Gene.........you guys tried this yet?
>
>Deej
>
>Thanks Gene. that's interesting.

I have been playing around with hybridized Paris setups that include some
96 with mixed results.

Are you doing some kind of *real time* SRC?

DJ
"gene lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:42e32600$1@linux...
>
> I'm a fan of 96 and I consider it the last remaining "Paris Gap".
> I hear subtle improvements at 96 for small ensemble acoustic recordings.
> This is only apparent under "high end" recording situations like a good
stereo
> mic pair on a string quartet or a small folk group. By the time you
convert
> back to 44.1, any real improvement is modest, but the original 96 masters
> are definitely superior.
>
> Where I here a dramatic improvement with 96 (or other high sample rates)
> is when I use plugins. HydraTone is way better at 96 and starts to sound
> like high-end analog equipment. Others like the Sony Oxford plugs, or the
> TC VSS3 reverb running on Powercore also benefit dramatically. This is
frequently
> not subtle at all. Another place where the change is dramatic is with some
> soft synths like FM7, which sounds far better at 96 (this is not true of
> all synths).
> I have been playing around with hybridized Paris setups that include some
> 96 with mixed results.
> Gene
>
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >I'll bet some of you have probably done this already, but I'm been
curious
> >for years about the *real deal* wit

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Re: DJ--Ribbon Mics? [message #56190 is a reply to message #56186]

Sat, 23 July 2005 21:47

Martin Harrington

Messages: 560
Registered: September 2005

Senior Member

h native DAWs at 96kHz vs Paris at
> >44.1kHz. I've heard 96kHz recordings done in both Nuendo and ProTools HD
> but
> >I've just never been able to get them into some sort of A/B situation in
> my
> >own studio. I've got Mytek 96kHz A/D converter here and I've spent part
> of
> >the day getting this happening in a situation where I can actually track
> to
> >SX and achieve a hi rez D/A conversion so I can use my headphone
monitoring
> >system in a real life tracking scenario. I've also purchased an RME
> >Multiface and PCI card which will be integrated into the dual DAW
situation
> >I've got going here and will also provide me the capability of doing
limited
> >(10 tracks simultaneously) tracking sessions at 96kHz - gotta' be able to
> >advertize this. I'm one of two studios that can't do hi rez and I feel
like
> >I need the capability, if for no other reason than to just say that I
can.
> >I've also got DVD authoring capabilities in Wavelab 5.0. I'm real curious
> to
> >know if it's really *that much better* than Paris at 44.1, both in a
> >scenario where I am tracking 96kHz and then doing a SRC to 44.1and
comparing
> >this to Paris and also just comparing a small mix of a number of acoustic
> >instruments at 96kHz in SX vs the same bunch of instruments in Paris at
> >44.1.
> >
> >The Multiface should be here mid week and I'm sure I'll have to do a bit
> of
> >IRQ chasing to get my DAW happy with this and the existing pair of HDSP
> >9652's.
> >
> >I'll keep the group posted about this and if someone else has done/is
doing
> >this already, I'd be really interested in hearing your impressions of the
> >comparisons.
> >
> >Rick, Dedric, Dave, Gene.........you guys tried this yet?
> >
> >Deej
> >
> >
>

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Re: DJ--Ribbon Mics? [message #56191 is a reply to message #56190]

Sat, 23 July 2005 22:02

Deej [1]

Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006

Senior Member

/avox.html" target="_blank">http://www.antarestech.com/products/avox.htmlfor most of the rock stuff we stay at 48k. on acoustic stuff and low
track counts it's i ether 88.2 or 96k. the biggest limiting factor
for me is with my POS mac, it's difficult to get decent track counts
above 48k. the only work around on that has been the purchase of
external hardware to reduce the use of plugins. so all comps and
verbs are done externally along with a bit of the eq.

oddly enough (or not) i can do more with 96k (track count, mixing in
sx2) on my 3 yr. old 2.6ghz pc than i can on my dual 1.25 g4. i've
been experimenting with 192k / 4 mic drum recording on this pc with
the lynx2. i must say it's pretty impressive for it's detail...and
disc usage. i can also run more instances of vst instruments on the
pc than my friend can on his dual 2.0 g5...go figure.

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 22:28:57 -0600, "DJ"
<animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:

>I'll bet some of you have probably done this already, but I'm been curious
>for years about the *real deal* with native DAWs at 96kHz vs Paris at
>44.1kHz. I've heard 96kHz recordings done in both Nuendo and ProTools HD but
>I've just never been able to get them into some sort of A/B situation in my
>own studio. I've got Mytek 96kHz A/D converter here and I've spent part of
>the day getting this happening in a situation where I can actually track to
>SX and achieve a hi rez D/A conversion so I can use my headphone monitoring
>system in a real life tracking scenario. I've also purchased an RME
>Multiface and PCI card which will be integrated into the dual DAW situation
>I've got going here and will also provide me the capability of doing limited
>(10 tracks simultaneously) tracking sessions at 96kHz - gotta' be able to
>advertize this. I'm one of two studios that can't do hi rez and I feel like
>I need the capability, if for no other reason than to just say that I can.
>I've also got DVD authoring capabilities in Wavelab 5.0. I'm real curious to
>know if it's really *that much better* than Paris at 44.1, both in a
>scenario where I am tracking 96kHz and then doing a SRC to 44.1and comparing
>this to Paris and also just comparing a small mix of a number of acoustic
>instruments at 96kHz in SX vs the same bunch of instruments in Paris at
>44.1.
>
>The Multiface should be here mid week and I'm sure I'll have to do a bit of
>IRQ chasing to get my DAW happy with this and the existing pair of HDSP
>9652's.
>
>I'll keep the group posted about this and if someone else has done/is doing
>this already, I'd be really interested in hearing your impression

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