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Creamware and XTC mode observation and a general softsynth question. [message #77459] Tue, 26 December 2006 08:37 Go to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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I had a modest MIDI sequence (12 parts) running in Cubase and initiated =
10
different Creamware softsynths on the 14 chip Pro card at 44.1 - 24bit.
I also had all ins/outs patched with 10 stereo busses in Cubase
via the Creamware card. All synth GUIs were open as was the Cubase
mixer showing all it's meters. I had one extra native softsynth running =
for good measure.

The CPU performance of the computer itself hung around 3-4%
with one spike at 8% while drawing the Cubase mixer. I had no way of =
seeing=20
the Creamware CPU because it won't boot up once Cubase has taken over =
it's resources.
It didn't seem to mind what I was doing to it.
Thanks for the cue Dimitrios!

All I can say is this is gonna be great in XTC mode! Kontakt and a =
bunch of other
NI stuff is next. That should show me where this box is really at.

Is it wise to install Kontakt on the C drive with it's samples on a =
seperate SATA or should I
install Kontakt entirely on the SATA?

I was also thinking of letting Kontakt have it's own drive and putting =
all other softsynths
on another IDE. I will be using it more than any of the others. Is it =
just their samples that=20
like to be on a different drive or the program itself?
Thanks,
Tom





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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I had a modest MIDI sequence (12=20
parts)&nbsp;running in Cubase and initiated 10</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>different Creamware softsynths on the =
14 chip Pro=20
card at 44.1 - 24bit.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I also had all ins/outs patched with 10 =
stereo=20
busses in Cubase</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>via the Creamware card.&nbsp; All synth =
GUIs were=20
open as was&nbsp;the Cubase</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>mixer showing all it's meters. I had =
one extra=20
native softsynth running for good measure.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The CPU performance of the computer =
itself hung=20
around 3-4%</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>with&nbsp;one spike at 8% while drawing =
the Cubase=20
mixer.&nbsp;&nbsp; I had no way of seeing </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the Creamware CPU </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>because it won't boot up once Cubase has taken over it's=20
resources.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It didn't&nbsp;seem to mind what I was =
doing to=20
it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for the cue =
Dimitrios!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All I can say is this is gonna be great =
in XTC=20
mode!&nbsp; Kontakt and a bunch of other</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>NI stuff is next.&nbsp; That should =
show me where=20
this&nbsp;box&nbsp;is really at.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Is it wise to install Kontakt on the C =
drive with=20
it's samples on a seperate SATA or should I</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>install Kontakt entirely on the =
SATA?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I was also thinking of =
letting&nbsp;Kontakt have=20
it's own drive and putting all other softsynths</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>on another IDE.&nbsp; I will be using =
it more than=20
any of the others.&nbsp; Is it just their samples that </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>like to be on a different drive or the =
</FONT><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>program itself?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Re: Creamware and XTC mode observation and a general softsynth question. [message #77484 is a reply to message #77459] Tue, 26 December 2006 16:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TCB is currently offline  TCB
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I haven't tried XTC mode yet, mostly because I'm feeling around in the dark
a bit now and it seems to be 'deprecated' by the Pulsar geek crowd. Still
I'll check it out.

I'd put the Kontakt libraries on a separate drive if you can, but I don't
think it's that huge a deal anymore. I'm one version behind on Kontakt and
even it does fine with everything stuffed on one crappy drive. But if you
have the spare it does make life easier both for the computer and for you
to keep track of the samples.

Now, hold on to your credit card and go to www.zargmusic.com.

TCB

"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>I had a modest MIDI sequence (12 parts) running in Cubase and initiated
=
>10
>different Creamware softsynths on the 14 chip Pro card at 44.1 - 24bit.
>I also had all ins/outs patched with 10 stereo busses in Cubase
>via the Creamware card. All synth GUIs were open as was the Cubase
>mixer showing all it's meters. I had one extra native softsynth running
=
>for good measure.
>
>The CPU performance of the computer itself hung around 3-4%
>with one spike at 8% while drawing the Cubase mixer. I had no way of =
>seeing=20
>the Creamware CPU because it won't boot up once Cubase has taken over =
>it's resources.
>It didn't seem to mind what I was doing to it.
>Thanks for the cue Dimitrios!
>
>All I can say is this is gonna be great in XTC mode! Kontakt and a =
>bunch of other
>NI stuff is next. That should show me where this box is really at.
>
>Is it wise to install Kontakt on the C drive with it's samples on a =
>seperate SATA or should I
>install Kontakt entirely on the SATA?
>
>I was also thinking of letting Kontakt have it's own drive and putting =
>all other softsynths
>on another IDE. I will be using it more than any of the others. Is it
=
>just their samples that=20
>like to be on a different drive or the program itself?
>Thanks,
>Tom
>
>
>
>
>
>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I had a modest MIDI sequence (12=20
>parts) running in Cubase and initiated 10</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>different Creamware softsynths on the =
>14 chip Pro=20
>card at 44.1 - 24bit.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I also had all ins/outs patched with 10
=
>stereo=20
>busses in Cubase</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>via the Creamware card. All synth =
>GUIs were=20
>open as was the Cubase</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>mixer showing all it's meters. I had =
>one extra=20
>native softsynth running for good measure.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The CPU performance of the computer =
>itself hung=20
>around 3-4%</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>with one spike at 8% while drawing =
>the Cubase=20
>mixer. I had no way of seeing </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the Creamware CPU </FONT><FONT =
>face=3DArial=20
>size=3D2>because it won't boot up once Cubase has taken over it's=20
>resources.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It didn't seem to mind what I was =
>doing to=20
>it.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for the cue =
>Dimitrios!</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All I can say is this is gonna be great
=
>in XTC=20
>mode! Kontakt and a bunch of other</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>NI stuff is next. That should =
>show me where=20
>this box is really at.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Is it wise to install Kontakt on the C
=
>drive with=20
>it's samples on a seperate SATA or should I</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>install Kontakt entirely on the =
>SATA?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I was also thinking of =
>letting Kontakt have=20
>it's own drive and putting all other softsynths</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>on another IDE. I will be using =
>it more than=20
>any of the others. Is it just their samples that </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>like to be on a different drive or the
=
></FONT><FONT=20
>face=3DArial size=3D2>program itself?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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Re: Creamware and XTC mode observation and a general softsynth question. [message #77488 is a reply to message #77484] Tue, 26 December 2006 17:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rob Arsenault is currently offline  Rob Arsenault   CANADA
Messages: 152
Registered: September 2005
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Hi Guys, I went ahead and jumped onto the Pulsar wagon myself and got a
project 6 DSP card with a sync card. My setup is:
Box #1: Paris / 3cards / 2MECs / 2 adat cards
Box#2 : Pulsar card / UAD card / Cubase SX 3
I did some very basic testing bussing tracks via adat out to PULSAR, patched
in a compressor in the pulsar patchbay then lightpipe back to Paris, very
cool. I would like to use my UAD with latency compensation also. This is
where I will need XTC mode and do my processing inside Cubase, rite?

Thanks
Rob


"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:4591b1bf$1@linux...
>
> I haven't tried XTC mode yet, mostly because I'm feeling around in the
dark
> a bit now and it seems to be 'deprecated' by the Pulsar geek crowd. Still
> I'll check it out.
>
> I'd put the Kontakt libraries on a separate drive if you can, but I don't
> think it's that huge a deal anymore. I'm one version behind on Kontakt and
> even it does fine with everything stuffed on one crappy drive. But if you
> have the spare it does make life easier both for the computer and for you
> to keep track of the samples.
>
> Now, hold on to your credit card and go to www.zargmusic.com.
>
> TCB
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >I had a modest MIDI sequence (12 parts) running in Cubase and initiated
> =
> >10
> >different Creamware softsynths on the 14 chip Pro card at 44.1 - 24bit.
> >I also had all ins/outs patched with 10 stereo busses in Cubase
> >via the Creamware card. All synth GUIs were open as was the Cubase
> >mixer showing all it's meters. I had one extra native softsynth running
> =
> >for good measure.
> >
> >The CPU performance of the computer itself hung around 3-4%
> >with one spike at 8% while drawing the Cubase mixer. I had no way of =
> >seeing=20
> >the Creamware CPU because it won't boot up once Cubase has taken over =
> >it's resources.
> >It didn't seem to mind what I was doing to it.
> >Thanks for the cue Dimitrios!
> >
> >All I can say is this is gonna be great in XTC mode! Kontakt and a =
> >bunch of other
> >NI stuff is next. That should show me where this box is really at.
> >
> >Is it wise to install Kontakt on the C drive with it's samples on a =
> >seperate SATA or should I
> >install Kontakt entirely on the SATA?
> >
> >I was also thinking of letting Kontakt have it's own drive and putting =
> >all other softsynths
> >on another IDE. I will be using it more than any of the others. Is it
> =
> >just their samples that=20
> >like to be on a different drive or the program itself?
> >Thanks,
> >Tom
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
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> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I had a modest MIDI sequence (12=20
> >parts) running in Cubase and initiated 10</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>different Creamware softsynths on the =
> >14 chip Pro=20
> >card at 44.1 - 24bit.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I also had all ins/outs patched with 10
> =
> >stereo=20
> >busses in Cubase</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>via the Creamware card. All synth =
> >GUIs were=20
> >open as was the Cubase</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>mixer showing all it's meters. I had =
> >one extra=20
> >native softsynth running for good measure.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The CPU performance of the computer =
> >itself hung=20
> >around 3-4%</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>with one spike at 8% while drawing =
> >the Cubase=20
> >mixer. I had no way of seeing </FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the Creamware CPU </FONT><FONT =
> >face=3DArial=20
> >size=3D2>because it won't boot up once Cubase has taken over it's=20
> >resources.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It didn't seem to mind what I was =
> >doing to=20
> >it.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for the cue =
> >Dimitrios!</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All I can say is this is gonna be great
> =
> >in XTC=20
> >mode! Kontakt and a bunch of other</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>NI stuff is next. That should =
> >show me where=20
> >this box is really at.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Is it wise to install Kontakt on the C
> =
> >drive with=20
> >it's samples on a seperate SATA or should I</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>install Kontakt entirely on the =
> >SATA?</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I was also thinking of =
> >letting Kontakt have=20
> >it's own drive and putting all other softsynths</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>on another IDE. I will be using =
> >it more than=20
> >any of the others. Is it just their samples that </FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>like to be on a different drive or the
> =
> ></FONT><FONT=20
> >face=3DArial size=3D2>program itself?</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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> >and=20
> >you?<BR><A=20
>
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> >
> >
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Re: Creamware and XTC mode observation and a general softsynth question. [message #77491 is a reply to message #77488] Tue, 26 December 2006 17:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey Rob join the club! I am way too green to answer questions.

As I understand it, XTC is a Pulsar thing that allows its plugins
to be seen as traditional VST plugins within another program while
still getting their DSP from the Creamware card. Maybe there's more or =
less=20
to it but that's how it appears to be working in my box with Cubase 2.0.
I can't even get Creamware to start up once Cubase has taken over
the Creamware hardware during it's startup. It does seem to be very
fast (3ms) with VSTi s so I'd bet the effects plugins will be the same.

I don't think this will help latency compensation with your UAD. Cubase
might as long as you aren't expecting to track with it. Mixdown like
DJ and you can get this to fly.
Tom




"Rob Arsenault" <mani1147 AT hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:4591bcb1@linux...
Hi Guys, I went ahead and jumped onto the Pulsar wagon myself and got =
a
project 6 DSP card with a sync card. My setup is:
Box #1: Paris / 3cards / 2MECs / 2 adat cards
Box#2 : Pulsar card / UAD card / Cubase SX 3
I did some very basic testing bussing tracks via adat out to PULSAR, =
patched
in a compressor in the pulsar patchbay then lightpipe back to Paris, =
very
cool. I would like to use my UAD with latency compensation also. This =
is
where I will need XTC mode and do my processing inside Cubase, rite?

Thanks
Rob


"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:4591b1bf$1@linux...
>
> I haven't tried XTC mode yet, mostly because I'm feeling around in =
the
dark
> a bit now and it seems to be 'deprecated' by the Pulsar geek crowd. =
Still
> I'll check it out.
>
> I'd put the Kontakt libraries on a separate drive if you can, but I =
don't
> think it's that huge a deal anymore. I'm one version behind on =
Kontakt and
> even it does fine with everything stuffed on one crappy drive. But =
if you
> have the spare it does make life easier both for the computer and =
for you
> to keep track of the samples.
>
> Now, hold on to your credit card and go to www.zargmusic.com.
>
> TCB
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >I had a modest MIDI sequence (12 parts) running in Cubase and =
initiated
> =3D
> >10
> >different Creamware softsynths on the 14 chip Pro card at 44.1 - =
24bit.
> >I also had all ins/outs patched with 10 stereo busses in Cubase
> >via the Creamware card. All synth GUIs were open as was the Cubase
> >mixer showing all it's meters. I had one extra native softsynth =
running
> =3D
> >for good measure.
> >
> >The CPU performance of the computer itself hung around 3-4%
> >with one spike at 8% while drawing the Cubase mixer. I had no way =
of =3D
> >seeing=3D20
> >the Creamware CPU because it won't boot up once Cubase has taken =
over =3D
> >it's resources.
> >It didn't seem to mind what I was doing to it.
> >Thanks for the cue Dimitrios!
> >
> >All I can say is this is gonna be great in XTC mode! Kontakt and a =
=3D
> >bunch of other
> >NI stuff is next. That should show me where this box is really at.
> >
> >Is it wise to install Kontakt on the C drive with it's samples on a =
=3D
> >seperate SATA or should I
> >install Kontakt entirely on the SATA?
> >
> >I was also thinking of letting Kontakt have it's own drive and =
putting =3D
> >all other softsynths
> >on another IDE. I will be using it more than any of the others. =
Is it
> =3D
> >just their samples that=3D20
> >like to be on a different drive or the program itself?
> >Thanks,
> >Tom
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
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> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I had a modest MIDI sequence =
(12=3D20
> >parts) running in Cubase and initiated 10</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>different Creamware softsynths =
on the =3D
> >14 chip Pro=3D20
> >card at 44.1 - 24bit.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I also had all ins/outs =
patched with 10
> =3D
> >stereo=3D20
> >busses in Cubase</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>via the Creamware card. All =
synth =3D
> >GUIs were=3D20
> >open as was the Cubase</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>mixer showing all it's meters. =
I had =3D
> >one extra=3D20
> >native softsynth running for good measure.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>The CPU performance of the =
computer =3D
> >itself hung=3D20
> >around 3-4%</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>with one spike at 8% while =
drawing =3D
> >the Cubase=3D20
> >mixer. I had no way of seeing </FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>the Creamware CPU </FONT><FONT =
=3D
> >face=3D3DArial=3D20
> >size=3D3D2>because it won't boot up once Cubase has taken over =
it's=3D20
> >resources.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>It didn't seem to mind what I =
was =3D
> >doing to=3D20
> >it.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks for the cue =3D
> >Dimitrios!</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>All I can say is this is gonna =
be great
> =3D
> >in XTC=3D20
> >mode! Kontakt and a bunch of other</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>NI stuff is next. That should =
=3D
> >show me where=3D20
> >this box is really at.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Is it wise to install Kontakt =
on the C
> =3D
> >drive with=3D20
> >it's samples on a seperate SATA or should I</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>install Kontakt entirely on =
the =3D
> >SATA?</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I was also thinking of =3D
> >letting Kontakt have=3D20
> >it's own drive and putting all other softsynths</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>on another IDE. I will be =
using =3D
> >it more than=3D20
> >any of the others. Is it just their samples that </FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>like to be on a different =
drive or the
> =3D
> ></FONT><FONT=3D20
> >face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>program itself?</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
spam, =3D
> >and=3D20
> >you?<BR><A=3D20
>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As I understand it, XTC is a Pulsar =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I can't even get Creamware to start up =
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has taken over</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the Creamware hardware during it's =
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It does seem to be very</FONT></DIV>
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effects=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I don't think this will help latency =
compensation=20
with your UAD.&nbsp; Cubase</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>might as long as you aren't expecting =
to track with=20
it.&nbsp; Mixdown like</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>DJ and you can get this to =
fly.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV>"Rob Arsenault" &lt;mani1147 AT hotmail.com&gt; wrote in message <A =

href=3D"news:4591bcb1@linux">news:4591bcb1@linux</A>...</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">Hi=20
Guys, I went ahead and jumped onto the Pulsar wagon myself and got=20
a<BR>project 6 DSP card with a sync card. My setup is:<BR>Box #1: =
Paris /=20
3cards / 2MECs / 2 adat cards<BR>Box#2 : Pulsar card / UAD card / =
Cubase SX=20
3<BR>I did some very basic testing bussing tracks via adat out to =
PULSAR,=20
patched<BR>in a compressor in the pulsar patchbay then lightpipe back =
to=20
Paris, very<BR>cool. I would like to use my UAD with latency =
compensation=20
also. This is<BR>where I will need XTC mode and do my processing =
inside=20
Cubase, rite?<BR><BR>Thanks<BR>Rob<BR><BR><BR>"TCB" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:nobody@ishere.com">nobody@ishere.com</A>&gt; wrote in =
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:4591b1bf$1@linux">news:4591b1bf$1@linux</A>...<BR>&gt;<BR>&g=
t; I=20
haven't tried XTC mode yet, mostly because I'm feeling around in=20
the<BR>dark<BR>&gt; a bit now and it seems to be 'deprecated' by the =
Pulsar=20
geek crowd. Still<BR>&gt; I'll check it out.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; I'd put =
the=20
Kontakt libraries on a separate drive if you can, but I don't<BR>&gt; =
think=20
it's that huge a deal anymore. I'm one version behind on Kontakt =
and<BR>&gt;=20
even it does fine with everything stuffed on one crappy drive. But if=20
you<BR>&gt; have the spare it does make life easier both for the =
computer and=20
for you<BR>&gt; to keep track of the samples.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Now, =
hold on to=20
your credit card and go to <A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.zargmusic.com">www.zargmusic.com</A>.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; =

TCB<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; "Tom Bruhl" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>&gt; =
wrote:<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;I had a modest MIDI sequence (12 parts) =
running=20
in Cubase and initiated<BR>&gt; =3D<BR>&gt; &gt;10<BR>&gt; =
&gt;different=20
Creamware softsynths on the 14 chip Pro card at 44.1 - 24bit.<BR>&gt; =
&gt;I=20
also had all ins/outs patched with 10 stereo busses in Cubase<BR>&gt; =
&gt;via=20
the Creamware card.&nbsp; All synth GUIs were open as was the =
Cubase<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;mixer showing all it's meters. I had one extra native softsynth=20
running<BR>&gt; =3D<BR>&gt; &gt;for good measure.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; =
&gt;The=20
CPU performance of the computer itself hung around 3-4%<BR>&gt; =
&gt;with one=20
spike at 8% while drawing the Cubase mixer.&nbsp;&nbsp; I had no way =
of=20
=3D<BR>&gt; &gt;seeing=3D20<BR>&gt; &gt;the Creamware CPU because it =
won't boot up=20
once Cubase has taken over =3D<BR>&gt; &gt;it's resources.<BR>&gt; =
&gt;It didn't=20
seem to mind what I was doing to it.<BR>&gt; &gt;Thanks for the cue=20
Dimitrios!<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;All I can say is this is gonna be =
great in=20
XTC mode!&nbsp; Kontakt and a =3D<BR>&gt; &gt;bunch of other<BR>&gt; =
&gt;NI=20
stuff is next.&nbsp; That should show me where this box is really =
at.<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;Is it wise to install Kontakt on the C drive with =
it's=20
samples on a =3D<BR>&gt; &gt;seperate SATA or should I<BR>&gt; =
&gt;install=20
Kontakt entirely on the SATA?<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;I was also =
thinking of=20
letting Kontakt have it's own drive and putting =3D<BR>&gt; &gt;all =
other=20
softsynths<BR>&gt; &gt;on another IDE.&nbsp; I will be using it more =
than any=20
of the others.&nbsp; Is it<BR>&gt; =3D<BR>&gt; &gt;just their samples=20
that=3D20<BR>&gt; &gt;like to be on a different drive or the program=20
itself?<BR>&gt; &gt;Thanks,<BR>&gt; &gt;Tom<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; =
&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;I choose Polesoft Lockspam =
to fight=20
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size=3D3D2&gt;I had a modest MIDI sequence (12=3D20<BR>&gt; &gt;parts) =
running in=20
Cubase and initiated 10&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
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card.&nbsp;=20
All synth =3D<BR>&gt; &gt;GUIs were=3D20<BR>&gt; &gt;open as was the=20
Cubase&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT =
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extra=3D20<BR>&gt; &gt;native softsynth running for good=20
measure.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt; =
&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2&gt;The CPU performance of the computer =
=3D<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;itself hung=3D20<BR>&gt; &gt;around =
3-4%&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2&gt;with one spike at =
8% while=20
drawing =3D<BR>&gt; &gt;the Cubase=3D20<BR>&gt; &gt;mixer.&nbsp;&nbsp; =
I had no=20
way of seeing &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt; =
&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2&gt;the Creamware CPU &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT =
=3D<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;face=3D3DArial=3D20<BR>&gt; &gt;size=3D3D2&gt;because it won't =
boot up once=20
Cubase has taken over it's=3D20<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;resources.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR >&gt; =
&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2&gt;It didn't seem to mind what I was =
=3D<BR>&gt; &gt;doing=20
to=3D20<BR>&gt; &gt;it.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt; =
&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2&gt;Thanks for the cue =3D<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;Dimitrios!&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR >&gt; =
&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2&gt;All I can say is =
this is=20
gonna be great<BR>&gt; =3D<BR>&gt; &gt;in XTC=3D20<BR>&gt; =
&gt;mode!&nbsp; Kontakt=20
and a bunch of other&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt; =
&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2&gt;NI stuff is next.&nbsp; That should =
=3D<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;show me where=3D20<BR>&gt; &gt;this box is really=20
at.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt; =
&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2&gt;Is it wise to install Kontakt on the =
C<BR>&gt;=20
=3D<BR>&gt; &gt;drive with=3D20<BR>&gt; &gt;it's samples on a seperate =
SATA or=20
should I&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT =
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&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2&gt;I was also =
thinking of=20
=3D<BR>&gt; &gt;letting Kontakt have=3D20<BR>&gt; &gt;it's own drive =
and putting=20
all other softsynths&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt; =
&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2&gt;on another IDE.&nbsp; I will be using =
=3D<BR>&gt;=20
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their=20
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This is basically what I'm after, mixing only.
Rob
I don't think this will help latency compensation with your UAD. =
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might as long as you aren't expecting to track with it. Mixdown like
DJ and you can get this to fly.
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