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Patch bays [message #91762]

Mon, 22 October 2007 11:37

Tyrone Corbett

Messages: 253
Registered: August 2006

Senior Member

I'm considering moving to TT patch bays for more secure connectivity. Any
suggestions?

Thanks

Tyrone

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Re: Patch bays [message #91764 is a reply to message #91762]

Mon, 22 October 2007 12:01

EK Sound

Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005

Senior Member

Don't use them for mic lines... they will work great for line level.

David.

Tyrone Corbett wrote:
> I'm considering moving to TT patch bays for more secure connectivity. Any
> suggestions?
>
> Thanks
>
> Tyrone

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Re: Patch bays [message #91765 is a reply to message #91762]

Mon, 22 October 2007 12:13

dc[3]
Messages: 895
Registered: September 2005

Senior Member

Here's the part # we spec for the studios we design and install:

B96DC-FNLIT/E3 M2OU12B

From these guys:

http://www.bittree.com/

here's a pic:

http://www.bittree.com/productdetail.cfm?productID=111256

They use connectors on the back so you can repatch or
reconfigure those connections easily, and you can setup/change
normals from the front with jumpers under the designation strips.

Very nice stuff. Not the cheapest though. around 1100 or so.
Fantastic support.

Whatever you get, remember to use only zero-residue contact
cleaner to keep them and the cables clean. Never use contact
preservative of any kind.

DC

"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>I'm considering moving to TT patch bays for more secure connectivity. Any
>suggestions?
>
>Thanks
>
>Tyrone

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Re: Patch bays [message #91766 is a reply to message #91764]

Mon, 22 October 2007 12:14

dc[3]
Messages: 895
Registered: September 2005

Senior Member

EK Sound <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote:
>Don't use them for mic lines... they will work great for line level.
>
>David.

YES! We only use gold-contact Neutrik XLR jack panels and
XLR shorty cables for mic patch bays.

DC

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Re: Patch bays [message #91767 is a reply to message #91765]

Mon, 22 October 2007 13:40

Tyrone Corbett

Messages: 253
Registered: August 2006

Senior Member

Thanks guys. All the info is much appreciated. Dc, I use to setup the ADC
bays that you use a puch tool with when I worked in TV. I liked the design
but didn't know if they were as flexible in terms of dealing with Normal,
Half Normal, etc.

Any thoughts?

Tyrone
"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>
>Here's the part # we spec for the studios we design and install:
>
>B96DC-FNLIT/E3 M2OU12B
>
>From these guys:
>
>http://www.bittree.com/
>
>here's a pic:
>
>http://www.bittree.com/productdetail.cfm?productID=111256
>
>They use connectors on the back so you can repatch or
>reconfigure those connections easily, and you can setup/change
>normals from the front with jumpers under the designation strips.
>
>Very nice stuff. Not the cheapest though. around 1100 or so.
>Fantastic support.
>
>Whatever you get, remember to use only zero-residue contact
>cleaner to keep them and the cables clean. Never use contact
>preservative of any kind.
>
>
>
>DC
>
>
>"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>I'm considering moving to TT patch bays for more secure connectivity. Any
>>suggestions?
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Tyrone
>

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Re: Patch bays [message #91769 is a reply to message #91762]

Mon, 22 October 2007 13:56

Gene Lennon[6]
Messages: 2
Registered: May 2007

Junior Member

I looked at this system at AES:

http://www.patchbays.com/Shorti_DB25.htm

The DB25 interface is becoming ubiquitous, not just in Pro Tools. Even without
the need for DB25 integration, this allows for a fully setup bay with XLR
ends at a variety of lengths for about 2K. The �normal� jumpers were solid
and easy to change. This kind of system is appealing because it can easily
be repurposed or moved.
A custom wired 96 would be far more, and DIY is murder on Bantam/TT.

Gene

"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>I'm considering moving to TT patch bays for more secure connectivity. Any
>suggestions?
>
>Thanks
>
>Tyrone

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Re: Patch bays [message #91770 is a reply to message #91769]

Mon, 22 October 2007 14:04

Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005

Senior Member

Man,

That's nice Gene. I'm tempted to jump on this. I've got enough TRS>XLR and
TRS>TRS snakes around here that I could easily Eay them and have enough left
over to pay for one of these systems.

"Gene Lennon" <g@mail.com> wrote in message news:471d0e7c$1@linux...
>
> I looked at this system at AES:
>
> http://www.patchbays.com/Shorti_DB25.htm
>
> The DB25 interface is becoming ubiquitous, not just in Pro Tools. Even
> without
> the need for DB25 integration, this allows for a fully setup bay with XLR
> ends at a variety of lengths for about 2K. The "normal" jumpers were solid
> and easy to change. This kind of system is appealing because it can easily
> be repurposed or moved.
> A custom wired 96 would be far more, and DIY is murder on Bantam/TT.
>
> Gene
>
> "Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>I'm considering moving to TT patch bays for more secure connectivity. Any
>>suggestions?
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Tyrone
>

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Re: Patch bays [message #91771 is a reply to message #91769]

Mon, 22 October 2007 14:42

EK Sound

Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005

Senior Member

Those normaling switches scare the crap out of me though... I would have
preferred jumpers.

David.

Gene Lennon wrote:

> I looked at this system at AES:
>
> http://www.patchbays.com/Shorti_DB25.htm
>
> The DB25 interface is becoming ubiquitous, not just in Pro Tools. Even without
> the need for DB25 integration, this allows for a fully setup bay with XLR
> ends at a variety of lengths for about 2K. The �normal� jumpers were solid
> and easy to change. This kind of system is appealing because it can easily
> be repurposed or moved.
> A custom wired 96 would be far more, and DIY is murder on Bantam/TT.
>
> Gene
>
> "Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>I'm considering moving to TT patch bays for more secure connectivity. Any
>>suggestions?
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Tyrone
>
>

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Re: Patch bays [message #91772 is a reply to message #91769]

Mon, 22 October 2007 15:00

Tyrone Corbett

Messages: 253
Registered: August 2006

Senior Member

Gene, this was looking good till you mentioned 2K. Much appreciated, but no
mucho dinero ;-)

Tyrone

"Gene Lennon" <g@mail.com> wrote:
>
>I looked at this system at AES:
>
>http://www.patchbays.com/Shorti_DB25.htm
>
>The DB25 interface is becoming ubiquitous, not just in Pro Tools. Even without
>the need for DB25 integration, this allows for a fully setup bay with XLR
>ends at a variety of lengths for about 2K. The �normal� jumpers were solid
>and easy to change. This kind of system is appealing because it can easily
>be repurposed or moved.
>A custom wired 96 would be far more, and DIY is murder on Bantam/TT.
>
>Gene
>
>"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>I'm considering moving to TT patch bays for more secure connectivity. Any
>>suggestions?
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Tyrone
>

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Re: Patch bays [message #91774 is a reply to message #91767]

Mon, 22 October 2007 16:36

dc[3]
Messages: 895
Registered: September 2005

Senior Member

The Bittree rear connector is really secure, and you can
patch the connections at the rear of the unit around without
pulling up punch down wires or desoldering.

The cool part is setting up normals:

http://www.bittree.com/catalog/detail2.cfm?pageID=931

We are dealers and I can get you a good price if you want one.

You will probably want the tool for crimping the rear connectors.
I think it is about 100.00.

DC

"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>Thanks guys. All the info is much appreciated. Dc, I use to setup the ADC
>bays that you use a puch tool with when I worked in TV. I liked the design
>but didn't know if they were as flexible in terms of dealing with Normal,
>Half Normal, etc.
>
>Any thoughts?
>
>Tyrone
>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>
>>Here's the part # we spec for the studios we design and install:
>>
>>B96DC-FNLIT/E3 M2OU12B
>>
>>From these guys:
>>
>>http://www.bittree.com/
>>
>>here's a pic:
>>
>>http://www.bittree.com/productdetail.cfm?productID=111256
>>
>>They use connectors on the back so you can repatch or
>>reconfigure those connections easily, and you can setup/change
>>normals from the front with jumpers under the designation strips.
>>
>>Very nice stuff. Not the cheapest though. around 1100 or so.
>>Fantastic support.
>>
>>Whatever you get, remember to use only zero-residue contact
>>cleaner to keep them and the cables clean. Never use contact
>>preservative of any kind.
>>
>>
>>
>>DC
>>
>>
>>"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>I'm considering moving to TT patch bays for more secure connectivity.
Any
>>>suggestions?
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>Tyrone
>>
>

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Re: Patch bays [message #91780 is a reply to message #91774]

Mon, 22 October 2007 18:08

Tyrone Corbett

Messages: 253
Registered: August 2006

Senior Member

Thanks DC, I'll check it out.

Tyrone

"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>
>The Bittree rear connector is really secure, and you can
>patch the connections at the rear of the unit around without
>pulling up punch down wires or desoldering.
>
>The cool part is setting up normals:
>
>http://www.bittree.com/catalog/detail2.cfm?pageID=931
>
>We are dealers and I can get you a good price if you want one.
>
>You will probably want the tool for crimping the rear connectors.
>I think it is about 100.00.
>
>DC
>
>
>"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>Thanks guys. All the info is much appreciated. Dc, I use to setup the ADC
>>bays that you use a puch tool with when I worked in TV. I liked the design
>>but didn't know if they were as flexible in terms of dealing with Normal,
>>Half Normal, etc.
>>
>>Any thoughts?
>>
>>Tyrone
>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Here's the part # we spec for the studios we design and install:
>>>
>>>B96DC-FNLIT/E3 M2OU12B
>>>
>>>From these guys:
>>>
>>>http://www.bittree.com/
>>>
>>>here's a pic:
>>>
>>>http://www.bittree.com/productdetail.cfm?productID=111256
>>>
>>>They use connectors on the back so you can repatch or
>>>reconfigure those connections easily, and you can setup/change
>>>normals from the front with jumpers under the designation strips.
>>>
>>>Very nice stuff. Not the cheapest though. around 1100 or so.
>>>Fantastic support.
>>>
>>>Whatever you get, remember to use only zero-residue contact
>>>cleaner to keep them and the cables clean. Never use contact
>>>preservative of any kind.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>DC
>>>
>>>
>>>"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I'm considering moving to TT patch bays for more secure connectivity.
>Any
>>>>suggestions?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks
>>>>
>>>>Tyrone
>>>
>>
>

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Re: Patch bays [message #91784 is a reply to message #91771]

Mon, 22 October 2007 18:55

Gene Lennon[4]
Messages: 26
Registered: November 2006

Junior Member

It is jumpers. A larger version of hard drive setup selectors. Ultra low resistance
and they can be �worked� every year or so to remove any oxidation.
g

EK Sound <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote:
>Those normaling switches scare the crap out of me though... I would have

>preferred jumpers.
>
>David.
>
>Gene Lennon wrote:
>
>> I looked at this system at AES:
>>
>> http://www.patchbays.com/Shorti_DB25.htm
>>
>> The DB25 interface is becoming ubiquitous, not just in Pro Tools. Even
without
>> the need for DB25 integration, this allows for a fully setup bay with
XLR
>> ends at a variety of lengths for about 2K. The �normal� jumpers were solid
>> and easy to change. This kind of system is appealing because it can easily
>> be repurposed or moved.
>> A custom wired 96 would be far more, and DIY is murder on Bantam/TT.
>>
>> Gene
>>
>> "Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>I'm considering moving to TT patch bays for more secure connectivity.
Any
>>>suggestions?
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>Tyrone
>>
>>

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Re: Patch bays [message #91832 is a reply to message #91784]

Tue, 23 October 2007 10:07

EK Sound

Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005

Senior Member

Then why does the description say "switch"? Sure looks like switches in
the picture as well...

David.

Gene Lennon wrote:
> It is jumpers. A larger version of hard drive setup selectors. Ultra low resistance
> and they can be �worked� every year or so to remove any oxidation.
> g
>
>
> EK Sound <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote:
>
>>Those normaling switches scare the crap out of me though... I would have
>
>
>>preferred jumpers.
>>
>>David.
>>
>>Gene Lennon wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I looked at this system at AES:
>>>
>>>http://www.patchbays.com/Shorti_DB25.htm
>>>
>>>The DB25 interface is becoming ubiquitous, not just in Pro Tools. Even
>
> without
>
>>>the need for DB25 integration, this allows for a fully setup bay with
>
> XLR
>
>>>ends at a variety of lengths for about 2K. The �normal� jumpers were solid
>>>and easy to change. This kind of system is appealing because it can easily
>>>be repurposed or moved.
>>>A custom wired 96 would be far more, and DIY is murder on Bantam/TT.
>>>
>>>Gene
>>>
>>>"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I'm considering moving to TT patch bays for more secure connectivity.
>
> Any
>
>>>>suggestions?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks
>>>>
>>>>Tyrone
>>>
>>>
>

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