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Vista ( does it work for audio?) [message #98224]

Fri, 25 April 2008 12:05

tonehouse

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Registered: July 2006

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Anybody successfully using Vista on anything?

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Re: Vista ( does it work for audio?) [message #98225 is a reply to message #98224]

Fri, 25 April 2008 11:08

EK Sound

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Registered: June 2005

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The skeet range...

David.

tonehouse wrote:
> Anybody successfully using Vista on anything?
>
>

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Re: Vista ( does it work for audio?) [message #98227 is a reply to message #98224]

Fri, 25 April 2008 11:46

Chris Ludwig

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Registered: May 2006

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Hi,
Works fine depending on your hardware software.

Chris

tonehouse wrote:
> Anybody successfully using Vista on anything?
>
>

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Re: Vista ( does it work for audio?) [message #98228 is a reply to message #98224]

Fri, 25 April 2008 12:36

Mark McDermott

Messages: 204
Registered: February 2006
Location: Portland, OR

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Works so well that MS is desperately trying to pull in the release date of
Windows 7 by over a year. ;)

"tonehouse" <zmcleod@comcast.net> wrote:
>Anybody successfully using Vista on anything?
>
>

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Re: Vista ( does it work for audio?) [message #98232 is a reply to message #98227]

Fri, 25 April 2008 14:08

tonehouse

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Registered: July 2006

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Thanks Chris...If it does actually work,what software and hardware is being
used? I am having a difficult time finding a good laptop without Vista
already being installed...they said it was a nightmare to uninstall
Vista.....
"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:48122942@linux...
> Hi,
> Works fine depending on your hardware software.
>
> Chris
>
>
> tonehouse wrote:
> > Anybody successfully using Vista on anything?
> >
> >
>
> --
> Chris Ludwig
>
> ADK Pro Audio
> (859) 635-5762
> www.adkproaudio.com
> chrisl@adkproaudio.com

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Re: Vista ( does it work for audio?) [message #98234 is a reply to message #98232]

Fri, 25 April 2008 15:07

Chris Ludwig

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Registered: May 2006

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HI ,

Not sure what laptops you have been looking at so far. Having Intel chip set and TI firewire chip set are the biggest things to look for.
Most mainstream laptops especially budget ones use Ricoh or Via firewire chip sets.

It would only be a "nightmare" to uninstall Vista if the laptop makers had locked out the BIOs so that it only functioned in AHCI or Raid mode for the SATA controller.
Otherwise it would be just that you would need a XP SP2 OEM install disk with the Intel AHCI/RAID controller driver slipstreamed in to it.

If you want to go the Vista route I would recommend using either Vista business 32 or Business 64 edition for audio/video use.
Sense laptops only use 4 gigs of ram total you would be best of using Vista 32 business.
Using the 32bit version will also help with some driver and program support.

I can guarantee that the Vista systems you get from the mainstream manufacturers will be loaded down with 3rd party crap and all the bells and whistles turn on full.
You should check to make that the maker gives you a real OEM Vista Install disk not a custom one.
The custom ones will usually come with some of the junk software pre-installed.
So even if you wiped the drive and did an fresh install with that disk you may still end up with all that junk there.

Assuming you are using the right PC components then this is the audio software and hardware that i know works fine with 32 and 64 vista

Software -

Sonar 7 32
Sonar 7 64
Cubase 4 32
Cubase 4 64
Reaper
Native Instruments ( Current versions, not all the hardware stuff under 64)
All of the most recent Steinberg plug ins and instruments.
East west play Instruments
Vienna instruments
Probably some others just haven't tested em yet.

Hardware-
(these all work in 32 and 64 bit versions)
RME All HDSP and Fireface devices
MOTU PCI and Firewire
Lynx
UAD

(32 bit only)
Focusrite
Presonus
NI
Novation

The biggest gotcha on Vista 64 atm for the MIDI end of things is that MOTU are pretty much the only people making a USB midi device with 64bit driver support.

Chris

tonehouse wrote:
> Thanks Chris...If it does actually work,what software and hardware is being
> used? I am having a difficult time finding a good laptop without Vista
> already being installed...they said it was a nightmare to uninstall
> Vista.....
> "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
> news:48122942@linux...
>> Hi,
>> Works fine depending on your hardware software.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> tonehouse wrote:
>>> Anybody successfully using Vista on anything?
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Chris Ludwig
>>
>> ADK Pro Audio
>> (859) 635-5762
>> www.adkproaudio.com
>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>
>

--
Chris Ludwig

ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.com

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Re: Vista ( does it work for audio?) Thanks Chris... [message #98265 is a reply to message #98234]

Sat, 26 April 2008 12:43

tonehouse

Messages: 184
Registered: July 2006

Senior Member

That's some great info Chris...I appreciate your insight. I am terrified of
Vista for many reasons...mostly my ignorance.I feel that Microsoft was just
getting XP to be pretty good....
"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:48125889@linux...
> HI ,
>
> Not sure what laptops you have been looking at so far. Having Intel chip
set and TI firewire chip set are the biggest things to look for.
> Most mainstream laptops especially budget ones use Ricoh or Via firewire
chip sets.
>
> It would only be a "nightmare" to uninstall Vista if the laptop makers had
locked out the BIOs so that it only functioned in AHCI or Raid mode for the
SATA controller.
> Otherwise it would be just that you would need a XP SP2 OEM install disk
with the Intel AHCI/RAID controller driver slipstreamed in to it.
>
> If you want to go the Vista route I would recommend using either Vista
business 32 or Business 64 edition for audio/video use.
> Sense laptops only use 4 gigs of ram total you would be best of using
Vista 32 business.
> Using the 32bit version will also help with some driver and program
support.
>
> I can guarantee that the Vista systems you get from the mainstream
manufacturers will be loaded down with 3rd party crap and all the bells and
whistles turn on full.
> You should check to make that the maker gives you a real OEM Vista Install
disk not a custom one.
> The custom ones will usually come with some of the junk software
pre-installed.
> So even if you wiped the drive and did an fresh install with that disk you
may still end up with all that junk there.
>
>
>
>
> Assuming you are using the right PC components then this is the audio
software and hardware that i know works fine with 32 and 64 vista
>
> Software -
>
> Sonar 7 32
> Sonar 7 64
> Cubase 4 32
> Cubase 4 64
> Reaper
> Native Instruments ( Current versions, not all the hardware stuff under
64)
> All of the most recent Steinberg plug ins and instruments.
> East west play Instruments
> Vienna instruments
> Probably some others just haven't tested em yet.
>
> Hardware-
> (these all work in 32 and 64 bit versions)
> RME All HDSP and Fireface devices
> MOTU PCI and Firewire
> Lynx
> UAD
>
> (32 bit only)
> Focusrite
> Presonus
> NI
> Novation
>
>
> The biggest gotcha on Vista 64 atm for the MIDI end of things is that MOTU
are pretty much the only people making a USB midi device with 64bit driver
support.
>
>
>
> Chris
>
>
> tonehouse wrote:
> > Thanks Chris...If it does actually work,what software and hardware is
being
> > used? I am having a difficult time finding a good laptop without Vista
> > already being installed...they said it was a nightmare to uninstall
> > Vista.....
> > "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
> > news:48122942@linux...
> >> Hi,
> >> Works fine depending on your hardware software.
> >>
> >> Chris
> >>
> >>
> >> tonehouse wrote:
> >>> Anybody successfully using Vista on anything?
> >>>
> >>>
> >> --
> >> Chris Ludwig
> >>
> >> ADK Pro Audio
> >> (859) 635-5762
> >> www.adkproaudio.com
> >> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
> >
> >
>
> --
> Chris Ludwig
>
> ADK Pro Audio
> (859) 635-5762
> www.adkproaudio.com
> chrisl@adkproaudio.com

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Re: Vista ( does it work for audio?) [message #98313 is a reply to message #98224]

Mon, 28 April 2008 15:54

Wayne

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Registered: July 2008
Location: Las Vegas

Senior Member

I dislike Vista. Mostly I dislike how it manages folders for different file
types. Me, I like a certain layout for all my files and folders, ie, name,
size, type, modified, attrib. In Vista, if I copy pics from my camera or
..wav files or .mp3 files from a zip drive or CD to a folder in Vista is
creates crap like, genre, and 2,3,4,5 stars, and album, and artist, so on.
Also, the administrator pop ups are annoying as hell. I do not use Vista
for recording. Also, you need at least 1gig ram for Vista basis and 2 gig
for Vista premium just for the system to run at a decent speed.

Wayne

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Re: Vista ( does it work for audio?) [message #98322 is a reply to message #98313]

Tue, 29 April 2008 08:01

Chris Ludwig

Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006

Senior Member

Hi Wayne,

Wayne Carson wrote:
> I dislike Vista. Mostly I dislike how it manages folders for different file
> types. Me, I like a certain layout for all my files and folders, ie, name,
> size, type, modified, attrib. In Vista, if I copy pics from my camera or
> ..wav files or .mp3 files from a zip drive or CD to a folder in Vista is
> creates crap like, genre, and 2,3,4,5 stars, and album, and artist, so on.
> Also, the administrator pop ups are annoying as hell.
Vista can be made to look and behave almost the same as XP.
The UAC (Security pop ups) can be set to a less aggressive mode.
It can be disabled all together if you did it on a fresh install with no programs installed yet.)

I do not use Vista
> for recording. Also, you need at least 1gig ram for Vista basis and 2 gig
> for Vista premium just for the system to run at a decent speed.
All OS's have required more and more ram. Vista like OSX handles ram very differently than older OS versions do.
Allot of what is loaded into memory to improve program launching, task switching and multitasking.
It is true that some of the functions are a bit bloated. This will hopefully be improved over time or in Windows 7. :)
Chris

>
> Wayne
>
>

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Chris Ludwig

ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.com

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