| Can you flow through the ADAT cards in realtime? [message #104969] |
Mon, 08 March 2010 10:45  |
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Hi all - anyone have any experience setting up so they can multitrack to PARIS and simultaneously flow those inputs through into another DAW via the outputs of the ADAT cards? If so, any suggestions on patchbay setups/routing? I'd like to avoid the necessity for an external ADAT patchbay if at all possible.
Thanks!
- K
"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
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| Re: Can you flow through the ADAT cards in realtime? [message #105011 is a reply to message #104969] |
Thu, 11 March 2010 21:11  |
Sound Dog
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Registered: October 2005
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Hiya Kerry
You sure can - in the patchbay, just route the audio input (A8iT-24 or ADI-O1, SPDIF, whatever) input directly to an ADAT output. Then it's hardwired to your external ADAT device. You don't even have to have PARIS record-enabled.
I've uploaded a screen-shot of an example of how to do this, using an A8iT-24 as the input and an ADI-O1 as the output. (Later, I tested the concept using the ADI-O1 as both the input and the output, and it works, but I neglected to take a screenshot).
You can use the same trick to send audio out of PARIS via SPDIF.
I used to run PARIS and Logic 5 on separate computers, using PARIS as the master while slaving Logic via MTC. All the audio was recorded into PARIS and the MIDI generated stuff from Logic came into PARIS via lightpipe. The Logic PC had an RME HDSP9652 card installed, and with my two ADAT cards plus SPDIF I was able to get 9 stereo busses back into PARIS for mixing. The MTC sync was a bit flaky at times but the audio sync was rock-solid.
When Logic 7 came about I decided to simplify my life and record audio into Logic, using PARIS as a front end ("latency, what latency ?"), kinda like an 02R or whatever, with multiple audio streams being sent via SPDIF and ADAT lightpipe.
Now that I have a reasonable audio interface for the Mac I tend to do all my recording and mixing inside Logic ("ah, I now understand this 'latency' of which you speak"), but I plan to experiment with using PARIS as a summing bus, especially after watching the BT DVD a few times (my favourite "new" DVD - thanks again Ted !).
Sorry for the ramble  .
Cheers,
Stewart.
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| Re: Can you flow through the ADAT cards in realtime? [message #105012 is a reply to message #105011] |
Thu, 11 March 2010 21:21 |
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Oh my, that *is* ingenious - right, of course, you can mult "outs" in PARIS, you just can't mult "ins".
I was overthinking it - puzzling it over in terms of pulling individual outs off of mixer channels, a way more complicated idea than just pulling them off the ADAT ins themselves.
Thanks much - I'll be making my new Patch Bay setup tonight!
- Kerry
"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
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| Re: Can you flow through the ADAT cards in realtime? [message #105016 is a reply to message #105015] |
Thu, 11 March 2010 21:38 |
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It took me a long time to identify the brain twister about the Patch Bay that causes some people I know to recoil from it in fear.
It's the way the terminology is used. For all connections between software objects in the Patch Bay - mixer to FX, for example - "outputs" go to "inputs" just like they do in the rest of the audio universe. Ditto for the connection between ADAT in and ADAT out you just illustrated - hardware being patched to hardware.
But the brain-twisting exception comes in when you're patching between hardware and software objects in the Patch Bay. That's where the universe turns upside down and you patch inputs to inputs (MEC MASTER INPUT 1 to MIXER CHANNEL 1 IN) and outputs to outputs (MONITOR OUT LEFT to MEC MASTER OUT 1). Try that with a guitar pedal. 
It took me an embarrassingly long time to put my finger on exactly what was causing me such confusion. Once I figured out that simple transposition, life was far easier.
"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
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