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| Troubles with Paris Pro 3.0 and XP Pro?... [message #67483] |
Mon, 01 May 2006 08:43  |
aardvark
Messages: 3
Registered: May 2006
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We are having all kinds of problems getting Paris 3.0 to work with XP Pro.
Originally we started using a Abit An8 with an nForce 4 chipset, AMD Athlon
64 X2 3800+, 2 GB ram, several hard drives and XP Pro. We use 1 Mec and 2
EDS 1000 cards, also a Matrox P650 dualhead pci-e video card. We followed
the installations tips for XP beta drivers, but no luck. Thinking maybe
Paris didn't like the new chipset, we switched m/b to a Asus A8V-E with a
Via chipset, still no go. Why is it, some people seem to get it working
with no troubles, and others can't seem to ever get it working? Also, what
should be seen in XP's device manager? The only things we see are a Ensoniq
MIDI driver. Is this indicative of a conflict? The error message we get is
Error 1/1: Can't initialize engine. They work just fine on the older pc
with Windows 98se. Need help guys.
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| Re: Troubles with Paris Pro 3.0 and XP Pro?... [message #67511 is a reply to message #67483] |
Mon, 01 May 2006 20:40  |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
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Let's start here.
Ok, first thing is that I believe dual core/dual processors are kind of a no
no with Paris. Some Intel guys got it going, but I don't recall anyone
saying that they have AMD systems running dual successfully.
Next..... Matrox has been proving itself less and less of a friend to the
Paris user. Never never but NEVER use Matrox drivers from their website in a
Paris rig. Use WinXP standard built in ones, which might be a real issue for
you using a newer PCI-e card. See if Windows can detect and install native
driver support ON ITS OWN... not the matrox ones. If you already installed
those, you're probably hosed on that one. Once Windows gets a driver it
hangs on until the death (or system drive wipe, whichever comes first) and
hacking it out of there is a nightmare.
Saying that you are using a newer mobo, it does have the right PCI spec for
using Paris EDS cards, yes? Double check that is the case if you're not 100%
sure.
The EDS driver for WinXP now sits in the system, not the audio portion of
hardware manager. Midi will still be in it's usual place.
Error 1/1 means it doesn't connect to the hardware/see the hardware when you
start the Paris application. I'd follow that road first.
Could be all the above, might be any one of them alone... but, this gives
you things to try Lou.
G'luck!
AA
"Lou C." <aardvark@comcast.net> wrote in message news:44562bbc@linux...
> We are having all kinds of problems getting Paris 3.0 to work with XP Pro.
> Originally we started using a Abit An8 with an nForce 4 chipset, AMD
> Athlon
> 64 X2 3800+, 2 GB ram, several hard drives and XP Pro. We use 1 Mec and 2
> EDS 1000 cards, also a Matrox P650 dualhead pci-e video card. We followed
> the installations tips for XP beta drivers, but no luck. Thinking maybe
> Paris didn't like the new chipset, we switched m/b to a Asus A8V-E with a
> Via chipset, still no go. Why is it, some people seem to get it working
> with no troubles, and others can't seem to ever get it working? Also,
> what
> should be seen in XP's device manager? The only things we see are a
> Ensoniq
> MIDI driver. Is this indicative of a conflict? The error message we get
> is
> Error 1/1: Can't initialize engine. They work just fine on the older pc
> with Windows 98se. Need help guys.
>
>
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| Re: Troubles with Paris Pro 3.0 and XP Pro?... [message #67521 is a reply to message #67511] |
Mon, 01 May 2006 23:46 |
jwires
Messages: 5
Registered: January 2006
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Thanks for the tips. I just don't get why Matrox is such a pain. There
appears to be plenty of irq's and they are nice cards. Also, you mention
the pci specs... what pci spec do the EDS 1000 cards have? I believe the
new motherboard standard is v 2.2. Here are the exact steps we used to
install Paris:
1.) Extract Paris XP drivers/ then instal them.
2) Install PaceLoc
3) Install Paris 3.0
4) Install Subsystem.- same directory as Paris
Go to start up Paris and 'can't initialize the engine' error.
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message news:4456d3df@linux...
> Let's start here.
>
> Ok, first thing is that I believe dual core/dual processors are kind of a
no
> no with Paris. Some Intel guys got it going, but I don't recall anyone
> saying that they have AMD systems running dual successfully.
>
> Next..... Matrox has been proving itself less and less of a friend to the
> Paris user. Never never but NEVER use Matrox drivers from their website in
a
> Paris rig. Use WinXP standard built in ones, which might be a real issue
for
> you using a newer PCI-e card. See if Windows can detect and install native
> driver support ON ITS OWN... not the matrox ones. If you already
installed
> those, you're probably hosed on that one. Once Windows gets a driver it
> hangs on until the death (or system drive wipe, whichever comes first) and
> hacking it out of there is a nightmare.
>
> Saying that you are using a newer mobo, it does have the right PCI spec
for
> using Paris EDS cards, yes? Double check that is the case if you're not
100%
> sure.
>
> The EDS driver for WinXP now sits in the system, not the audio portion of
> hardware manager. Midi will still be in it's usual place.
>
> Error 1/1 means it doesn't connect to the hardware/see the hardware when
you
> start the Paris application. I'd follow that road first.
>
> Could be all the above, might be any one of them alone... but, this gives
> you things to try Lou.
> G'luck!
>
> AA
>
>
> "Lou C." <aardvark@comcast.net> wrote in message news:44562bbc@linux...
> > We are having all kinds of problems getting Paris 3.0 to work with XP
Pro.
> > Originally we started using a Abit An8 with an nForce 4 chipset, AMD
> > Athlon
> > 64 X2 3800+, 2 GB ram, several hard drives and XP Pro. We use 1 Mec and
2
> > EDS 1000 cards, also a Matrox P650 dualhead pci-e video card. We
followed
> > the installations tips for XP beta drivers, but no luck. Thinking maybe
> > Paris didn't like the new chipset, we switched m/b to a Asus A8V-E with
a
> > Via chipset, still no go. Why is it, some people seem to get it working
> > with no troubles, and others can't seem to ever get it working? Also,
> > what
> > should be seen in XP's device manager? The only things we see are a
> > Ensoniq
> > MIDI driver. Is this indicative of a conflict? The error message we
get
> > is
> > Error 1/1: Can't initialize engine. They work just fine on the older
pc
> > with Windows 98se. Need help guys.
> >
> >
>
>
> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
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| Re: Troubles with Paris Pro 3.0 and XP Pro?... [message #67523 is a reply to message #67521] |
Tue, 02 May 2006 03:57 |
John [1]
Messages: 2229
Registered: September 2005
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Turn on PNP OS in bios, also turn off USB, Parallel Port, Serial and anything
else you can till you get stable. Also make sure the cards come up on their
own IRQ. My MB manual was wrong on which slots share IRQs so all this time
mine was crashing due to IRQ conflicts. On boot up look at what IRQ's the
BIOS is putting them on. IRQ 3 works best for me. Then run the Schrezo
setup program to install the drivers, Install Paris and the FX subsystem
and you should be golden.
John
"cr8250" <jwires@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>Thanks for the tips. I just don't get why Matrox is such a pain. There
>appears to be plenty of irq's and they are nice cards. Also, you mention
>the pci specs... what pci spec do the EDS 1000 cards have? I believe the
>new motherboard standard is v 2.2. Here are the exact steps we used to
>install Paris:
>
>1.) Extract Paris XP drivers/ then instal them.
>2) Install PaceLoc
>3) Install Paris 3.0
>4) Install Subsystem.- same directory as Paris
>
>Go to start up Paris and 'can't initialize the engine' error.
>
>
>
>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message news:4456d3df@linux...
>> Let's start here.
>>
>> Ok, first thing is that I believe dual core/dual processors are kind of
a
>no
>> no with Paris. Some Intel guys got it going, but I don't recall anyone
>> saying that they have AMD systems running dual successfully.
>>
>> Next..... Matrox has been proving itself less and less of a friend to
the
>> Paris user. Never never but NEVER use Matrox drivers from their website
in
>a
>> Paris rig. Use WinXP standard built in ones, which might be a real issue
>for
>> you using a newer PCI-e card. See if Windows can detect and install native
>> driver support ON ITS OWN... not the matrox ones. If you already
>installed
>> those, you're probably hosed on that one. Once Windows gets a driver it
>> hangs on until the death (or system drive wipe, whichever comes first)
and
>> hacking it out of there is a nightmare.
>>
>> Saying that you are using a newer mobo, it does have the right PCI spec
>for
>> using Paris EDS cards, yes? Double check that is the case if you're not
>100%
>> sure.
>>
>> The EDS driver for WinXP now sits in the system, not the audio portion
of
>> hardware manager. Midi will still be in it's usual place.
>>
>> Error 1/1 means it doesn't connect to the hardware/see the hardware when
>you
>> start the Paris application. I'd follow that road first.
>>
>> Could be all the above, might be any one of them alone... but, this gives
>> you things to try Lou.
>> G'luck!
>>
>> AA
>>
>>
>> "Lou C." <aardvark@comcast.net> wrote in message news:44562bbc@linux...
>> > We are having all kinds of problems getting Paris 3.0 to work with XP
>Pro.
>> > Originally we started using a Abit An8 with an nForce 4 chipset, AMD
>> > Athlon
>> > 64 X2 3800+, 2 GB ram, several hard drives and XP Pro. We use 1 Mec
and
>2
>> > EDS 1000 cards, also a Matrox P650 dualhead pci-e video card. We
>followed
>> > the installations tips for XP beta drivers, but no luck. Thinking maybe
>> > Paris didn't like the new chipset, we switched m/b to a Asus A8V-E with
>a
>> > Via chipset, still no go. Why is it, some people seem to get it working
>> > with no troubles, and others can't seem to ever get it working? Also,
>> > what
>> > should be seen in XP's device manager? The only things we see are a
>> > Ensoniq
>> > MIDI driver. Is this indicative of a conflict? The error message we
>get
>> > is
>> > Error 1/1: Can't initialize engine. They work just fine on the older
>pc
>> > with Windows 98se. Need help guys.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>
>>
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