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| Ping Chris: re: RME HDSP PCI-e cards [message #86357 is a reply to message #86353] |
Fri, 08 June 2007 14:11   |
Dedric Terry
Messages: 788
Registered: June 2007
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"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:4669b05b$1@linux...
>> Chris, is the MOTU 2408mk3 and PCIe 424 card stable on Intel Quad Core?
> yes the MOTU like the RME i working fine on dual, quad and dual quad
> systems. haven't tried any multi card or multi I/O box setups yet with the
> MOTU. But one box and one I/O box works very good.
Any comparison on PC based latency capabilities and stability with Nuendo
with the MOTU vs. RME/Lynx? I need more ADAT I/O on the main rig (PCIe),
but Lynx doesn't have it, and MADI is quite a bit more expensive than a
couple of mkIIIs would be, or a couple of RME HDSPs (I notice RME seems to
be dropping the 9652, or at least it isn't listed in their PCIe list, so
that may be out of the question for me).
I'll probably go MADI later, but for now a more economical way into more
ADAT I/Os would be nice. Seems like MOTU is the most viable in terms of
config, price and PCIe availability.
Thanks,
Dedric
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| Re: RME HDSP PCI-e cards [message #86361 is a reply to message #86360] |
Fri, 08 June 2007 15:08 |
Nil
Messages: 245
Registered: March 2007
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"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>I'm in the same situation as Graham here - having multiple Digifaces on
a
>single PCI card would solve my problem
>as well. Submixing is something I'm trying to eliminate, but your
>suggestion is still a great alternative Neil.
As I understand it, there's two ways to do this - one is to do a
Submix thingy like I mentioned, the other is to use your
additional Multifaces in Disconnect Mode & lightpipe out from
one to the other, then you don't have to do submixes at all.
I've never tried that method, so I don't know how practical it
would be.
What I've done last time I needed more than 12 inputs, though
(the 8 analog in's on my main Multiface, plus 4 channels of
lightpipe in @ 88.2k) is to simply send stuff to the 2nd
Multiface that the band didn't really need to monitor... like
the 4 Tom mics going through the Motu 8Pre - those got sent
through the lightpipe on the 2nd Multiface - who needs to
monitor toms in the cans? You get plenty of them in the OH's
anyway. Kick & Snare went there in one case - the drummer wanted
to hear his triggered sounds in the headphones, so I sent the
mics to the 2nd Multiface, a 2nd bass cab mic (one's good for
monitoring purposes, right?), stuff like that. Improvise a bit.
Think do what they really need to hear back... depending on the
drummer & style of music, you could probably run a HiHat mic
through the 2nd Multiface since you often get plenty of hats in
the OH's too. Abient mics - throw 'em into the 2nd Multiface,
who needs to hear that when tracking, anyway... the difference
in timing between a direct mic & a room mic is just going to be
more likely just throws the players off to begin with.
Deej could put 7 of his nine banjo chair mics on his 2nd
Multiface & still have two to monitor with :)
Neil
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| Re: Ping Chris: re: RME HDSP PCI-e cards [message #86364 is a reply to message #86357] |
Fri, 08 June 2007 16:36 |
Chris Ludwig
Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006
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Hi Dedric,
Dedric Terry wrote:
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> "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
> news:4669b05b$1@linux...
>>> Chris, is the MOTU 2408mk3 and PCIe 424 card stable on Intel Quad Core?
>> yes the MOTU like the RME i working fine on dual, quad and dual quad
>> systems. haven't tried any multi card or multi I/O box setups yet with
>> the MOTU. But one box and one I/O box works very good.
>
> Any comparison on PC based latency capabilities and stability with
> Nuendo with the MOTU vs. RME/Lynx? I need more ADAT I/O on the main rig
> (PCIe), but Lynx doesn't have it, and MADI is quite a bit more expensive
> than a couple of mkIIIs would be, or a couple of RME HDSPs (I notice
> RME seems to be dropping the 9652, or at least it isn't listed in their
> PCIe list, so that may be out of the question for me).
The MOTU, Lynx and RME with current drivers all operate at virtually
identical latencies and CPU load. I haven't tested the MOTU systems with
all 3 I/O boxes attached to know how things change with that. I know
when using the Lynx or RME in a 2 or 3 card setup it can effect how low
of a buffer you can work at when addressing all the I/O at once. There
is allot of PCI traffic to deal.
>
> I'll probably go MADI later, but for now a more economical way into more
> ADAT I/Os would be nice. Seems like MOTU is the most viable in terms of
> config, price and PCIe availability.
>
If you are sticking with ADAT then probably yes.
> Thanks,
> Dedric
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.com
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| Re: Ping Chris: re: RME HDSP PCI-e cards [message #86528 is a reply to message #86357] |
Tue, 12 June 2007 22:20 |
Deej [4]
Messages: 1292
Registered: January 2007
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Well dagnabit!!!!....no more 9652's???? I'll be hornswaggled!!!!! I've got 3
x of these &^%$&*#$!*& things and now they're discontinued??? This is
starting to feel familiar.
;oP
"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message news:4669c79d$1@linux...
>
> "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
> news:4669b05b$1@linux...
>>> Chris, is the MOTU 2408mk3 and PCIe 424 card stable on Intel Quad Core?
>> yes the MOTU like the RME i working fine on dual, quad and dual quad
>> systems. haven't tried any multi card or multi I/O box setups yet with
>> the MOTU. But one box and one I/O box works very good.
>
> Any comparison on PC based latency capabilities and stability with Nuendo
> with the MOTU vs. RME/Lynx? I need more ADAT I/O on the main rig (PCIe),
> but Lynx doesn't have it, and MADI is quite a bit more expensive than a
> couple of mkIIIs would be, or a couple of RME HDSPs (I notice RME seems
> to be dropping the 9652, or at least it isn't listed in their PCIe list,
> so that may be out of the question for me).
>
> I'll probably go MADI later, but for now a more economical way into more
> ADAT I/Os would be nice. Seems like MOTU is the most viable in terms of
> config, price and PCIe availability.
>
> Thanks,
> Dedric
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