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Chris Thoman single proc XP Driver [message #107088] Fri, 22 June 2012 12:31 Go to next message
Murgatroyd   UNITED STATES
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Does anybody know if Chris Thoman's single proc XP Driver is still available, and if so where?

Thanks!
Re: Chris Thoman single proc XP Driver [message #107143 is a reply to message #107088] Sun, 15 July 2012 10:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
turgsh01 is currently offline  turgsh01   CANADA
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I'm looking for it as well... if anyone can help me out in finding it, I'd really appreciate it.
icon6.gif  Re: Chris Thoman single proc XP Driver [message #107191 is a reply to message #107088] Fri, 03 August 2012 22:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mattcelt   
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Your timing is pretty good, guys... after more than 16 months not checking things here, I hopped on tonight and saw your posts.

I have a copy of the single proc drivers you're welcome to. Where should I send them? (I'm assuming Chris isn't expecting payment for them, if he is you'll have to settle up with him.)


On a related note, it seems that all the links on parisfaqs.com are dead - no more manuals, etc. are available there. As it happens, I have a copy of most (if not everything) that was hosted there... who knew being a hoarder would come in so handy?

Is there another place we can put everything so they're available to all of us when we need them randomly and don't have access to our usual machines? Do we have, or could we create, a file repository on the PARISwiki for that purpose? kerryg?
Re: Chris Thoman single proc XP Driver [message #107194 is a reply to message #107088] Sat, 04 August 2012 01:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
turgsh01 is currently offline  turgsh01   CANADA
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FYI, Murgatroyd was able to help me get the files I needed, therefore I no longer need them.

However, I do agree that these files should be hosted somewhere so that others can make use of them without having to pay money for the upgraded drivers which isn't cheap considering most other drivers for everything else is given away for free.

It is a sad world when even the stuff normally given away for free starts costing huge amounts of money. It's one thing to accept donations or charge a few dollars (in case no one is willing to donate) for the efforts in re-creating a functioning driver for XP, but to charge 50$ for something normally given away freely... that's just wrong.

I'm sure all 3 of us who posted in here will gladly upload the single core XP drivers to anyone who asks for it. Just private message us if the attached file doesn't work for some reason and if we're around, we'll give you the files. Smile

And if for some reason staff here disapproves of this comment or topic and deletes it, then I will make it a priority to get the word out and the files hosted using my own methods on other forums, blogs and even torrent sites. Let the free stuff continue to be accessible. "Fight the power!" Razz

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Re: Chris Thoman single proc XP Driver [message #107196 is a reply to message #107194] Sat, 04 August 2012 05:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mattcelt   
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Well, I know that Mike Audet is still working diligently on keeping PARIS up-to-date and useful with the latest Operating Systems. He has a great deal of specialized knowledge that he puts to good use keeping us up and running. Without his drivers, we'd all still be stuck running Windows98, so I don't think it's out of line whatsoever for him to charge $50 for his drivers. (Actually, I think it's a hell of a bargain.) The only things I think we should post are the things that a) are available for free, or b) aren't available for love or money otherwise. (E.g., the PARIS executables.)

Doing a web search, I couldn't find a place to pay Chris for the drivers, which is the only reason I offered them. I don't know if he's charging for them or not. But don't short-change the guys who are the only thing that have kept us relevant in the past 12 years - they're the only ones who who continue to do so in the future. (And I, for one, want them to have EVERY incentive to keep doing what they're doing!!)

mattcelt
Re: Chris Thoman single proc XP Driver [message #107199 is a reply to message #107196] Sat, 04 August 2012 19:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wayne is currently offline  Wayne   UNITED STATES
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Agree. Mike is keeping us up to date. 1st with multi-core driver and now with his 64 bit work. Also his reverbs are sweet. He has earned compensation in my view.
Re: Chris Thoman single proc XP Driver [message #107209 is a reply to message #107194] Wed, 08 August 2012 10:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerryg is currently offline  kerryg   CANADA
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I'll host the drivers - AFAIK it was always Chris' intention they be given away for free. They went offline when Doug changed servers, breaking his download links. We've been awaiting his announced re-linking of files.

Mike's even recommended them as being slightly more efficient on single processor systems, in a theoretical sense, than his own. He's being modest, of course. Mike's drivers are better for two reasons (neither one a negative reflection on Chris' work). First, Mike supports them, even spending hours on the phone getting people's systems up and running when necessary. Outside us, there's no support for Chris' drivers. And second, Mike's drivers killed a lot of bugs, any one of which could have caused enough problems that you could kiss the time saved by that theoretical efficiency advantage goodbye.

Let's dispel some fantasies here. Mike's not a card-carrying member of "The Power". Mike's a guitarist, teacher and PARIS fan in Canada who taught himself to write code from the ground up to see if he could tackle some problems in our aging PARIS rigs. He's got a wife and a kid, this isn't his job but his hobby, and $50 from every PARIS fan in the world wouldn't pay him McDonalds wages for the hours he's put in. He's a hero here and I look forward to even cooler achievements in the future.

As far as "staff" here, the staff is me, Kerry Galloway, a bassist and PARIS fan in Vancouver Canada. I don't do advertising, I don't sell data, and I don't solicit donations; I built this site (and the Wiki) for free and I host it at my own expense. Because I think PARIS is pretty cool.

It's really time to let go of that antiquated "PARIS user screwed by the power" hooey. It's not like it ever did anyone any favors. If you want to do some good for PARIS, think fresh - put that energy into something more constructive like filling in some of the myriad blanks on the Wiki.


"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon

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Re: Chris Thoman single proc XP Driver [message #107210 is a reply to message #107209] Wed, 08 August 2012 10:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerryg is currently offline  kerryg   CANADA
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Matt, good on ya! I'll host, whatcha got?

"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
Re: Chris Thoman single proc XP Driver [message #107215 is a reply to message #107210] Thu, 09 August 2012 15:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mattcelt   UNITED STATES
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Sent you a PM with the URL.
Re: Chris Thoman single proc XP Driver [message #107216 is a reply to message #107215] Thu, 09 August 2012 16:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerryg is currently offline  kerryg   CANADA
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Excellent, thanks! I'm slammed today and then out of town til Sun, I'll get them up early next week...

"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
Re: Chris Thoman single proc XP Driver [message #107234 is a reply to message #107216] Sat, 25 August 2012 07:13 Go to previous message
mattcelt   UNITED STATES
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Hey Kerry, were you able to get the files?
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