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| Video card blues [message #76966] |
Tue, 12 December 2006 09:13  |
Paul Artola
Messages: 161
Registered: November 2005
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OK, I finally upgrade from 19" CRTs to 22"-widescreen LCDs, but now I
can't get my Paris machine to recognize the monitor. The machine is a
1GHz Pentium III box with a Chaintech Nvidia Geforce FX5200 video
card. I am driving an Hitachi 19" CRT off the analog port of the card
and my new Acer 2216 monitor off the digital port. I have d/l'ed the
latest Nvidia drivers that claim to allow me to specify manually the
1680x1050x60ns resolution of the monitor, but whenever I do this, I
get a popup claiming that setting cannot be supported.
I can get things to work at 1600x900 (actually the Nvidia driver then
resets the 900 to 896!) but when I try to do anything after that, the
Acer blinks off/on for the rest of the session...
....so, can anyone suggest a video card for me? I think I am basically
screwed here, because I need:
1. AGP
2. WinME
3. WSXGA+ (i.e. 1680x1050x60s)
Looks like 2 + 3 = 0 here!
- Paul Artola
Ellicott City, Maryland
p.s. Upgrading the Paris machine to a newer, WinXP one is not an
option.
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| Re: Video card blues [message #76967 is a reply to message #76966] |
Tue, 12 December 2006 10:08  |
Neil
Messages: 1645
Registered: April 2006
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Do you have Plug & Play disabled? If not, that might help. That
way the driver might be able to force Windows to use the
settings of your choice.
Neil
Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>OK, I finally upgrade from 19" CRTs to 22"-widescreen LCDs, but now I
>can't get my Paris machine to recognize the monitor. The machine is a
>1GHz Pentium III box with a Chaintech Nvidia Geforce FX5200 video
>card. I am driving an Hitachi 19" CRT off the analog port of the card
>and my new Acer 2216 monitor off the digital port. I have d/l'ed the
>latest Nvidia drivers that claim to allow me to specify manually the
>1680x1050x60ns resolution of the monitor, but whenever I do this, I
>get a popup claiming that setting cannot be supported.
>
>I can get things to work at 1600x900 (actually the Nvidia driver then
>resets the 900 to 896!) but when I try to do anything after that, the
>Acer blinks off/on for the rest of the session...
>
>...so, can anyone suggest a video card for me? I think I am basically
>screwed here, because I need:
>
>1. AGP
>2. WinME
>3. WSXGA+ (i.e. 1680x1050x60s)
>
>Looks like 2 + 3 = 0 here!
>
>- Paul Artola
> Ellicott City, Maryland
>
>p.s. Upgrading the Paris machine to a newer, WinXP one is not an
>option.
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| Re: Video card blues [message #76976 is a reply to message #76967] |
Tue, 12 December 2006 12:40 |
Larry Upton
Messages: 30
Registered: October 2006
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Paul:
You may be in trouble in ME, due to driver issues. When I got my 22"
widescreen Viewsonic monitors, they came with a CD that had 'drivers'
and a PDF manual on it. When I 'installed' the drivers, all that
happened was the copying of an .inf file to my Windows installer
directory (This was under XP, mind you...) which apparently had the
supported resolution info in it for Windows to digest. After a reboot,
I went to Display Settings, and the PC had recognised the monitor(s),
and the 1680x1050@60 option was the first selection on the dropdown
list. Wham, bam, thank you ma'am...
I have an AGP Matrox P650 video card, running the latest Matrox driver,
without triple-head, .net, or the Matrox Powerdesk app running, but I
don't know whether that makes any difference. Did your monitors come
with any software? This is all I can think of - I know John B.
previously had issues with a 1440x900 19" widescreen that he couldn't
get to work, also.
Sorry you are having trouble - I love my widescreen displays.
Larry Upton
Neil wrote:
> Do you have Plug & Play disabled? If not, that might help. That
> way the driver might be able to force Windows to use the
> settings of your choice.
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> Neil
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> Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>OK, I finally upgrade from 19" CRTs to 22"-widescreen LCDs, but now I
>>can't get my Paris machine to recognize the monitor. The machine is a
>>1GHz Pentium III box with a Chaintech Nvidia Geforce FX5200 video
>>card. I am driving an Hitachi 19" CRT off the analog port of the card
>>and my new Acer 2216 monitor off the digital port. I have d/l'ed the
>>latest Nvidia drivers that claim to allow me to specify manually the
>>1680x1050x60ns resolution of the monitor, but whenever I do this, I
>>get a popup claiming that setting cannot be supported.
>>
>>I can get things to work at 1600x900 (actually the Nvidia driver then
>>resets the 900 to 896!) but when I try to do anything after that, the
>>Acer blinks off/on for the rest of the session...
>>
>>...so, can anyone suggest a video card for me? I think I am basically
>>screwed here, because I need:
>>
>>1. AGP
>>2. WinME
>>3. WSXGA+ (i.e. 1680x1050x60s)
>>
>>Looks like 2 + 3 = 0 here!
>>
>>- Paul Artola
>> Ellicott City, Maryland
>>
>>p.s. Upgrading the Paris machine to a newer, WinXP one is not an
>>option.
>>
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| Re: Video card blues [message #76980 is a reply to message #76966] |
Tue, 12 December 2006 20:04 |
Edna Sloan
Messages: 304
Registered: October 2005
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Paul, the GEF 5200 doesn't support that resolution. you will have to move
up to at least the 6000 series cards. Seems like I saw a 6200 at Newegg for
$35.
Edna
"Paul Artola" <artola@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:tbotn2hrqeut0tpkbiqliibb48sumgslaj@4ax.com...
> OK, I finally upgrade from 19" CRTs to 22"-widescreen LCDs, but now I
> can't get my Paris machine to recognize the monitor. The machine is a
> 1GHz Pentium III box with a Chaintech Nvidia Geforce FX5200 video
> card. I am driving an Hitachi 19" CRT off the analog port of the card
> and my new Acer 2216 monitor off the digital port. I have d/l'ed the
> latest Nvidia drivers that claim to allow me to specify manually the
> 1680x1050x60ns resolution of the monitor, but whenever I do this, I
> get a popup claiming that setting cannot be supported.
>
> I can get things to work at 1600x900 (actually the Nvidia driver then
> resets the 900 to 896!) but when I try to do anything after that, the
> Acer blinks off/on for the rest of the session...
>
> ...so, can anyone suggest a video card for me? I think I am basically
> screwed here, because I need:
>
> 1. AGP
> 2. WinME
> 3. WSXGA+ (i.e. 1680x1050x60s)
>
> Looks like 2 + 3 = 0 here!
>
> - Paul Artola
> Ellicott City, Maryland
>
> p.s. Upgrading the Paris machine to a newer, WinXP one is not an
> option.
>
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| Re: Video card blues [message #76987 is a reply to message #76980] |
Wed, 13 December 2006 06:51 |
Paul Artola
Messages: 161
Registered: November 2005
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Thanks Edna, Neil, and Larry for the responses. After playing around
with the setup last night, I was able to get something happening, but
it is less than optimal. First, I disconnected my CRT monitor then
connected the widescreen to the computer via the analog input. I tried
running the LCD solo via the digital input, but that still produced
the lighthouse effect - monitor turning ON and OFF with every little
action.
Next, I set the display to 1600x900xwhatever. The card seems to be
indifferent to 60ns, adapter default, or optimal as the refresh
setting, and I tried them each with no difference in quality. At this
resolution, I get 16+2+1 nice mixer channels to the screen, but
anything beyond 1 aux/eq panel requires scrolling, which is to be
expected.
However, at this resolution, text is sub-optimal, but readable. Not
too critical since I really only use this computer for Paris work, but
in the long run, I see a new (old?) video card in my future. Ideally,
I will get both of these widescreen monitors I have working together -
that would really rock my Paris world, but for now, I will go with
what I have and hope it is somewhat stable.
- Paul Artola
Ellicott City, Maryland
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 22:04:59 -0600, "RiverLake Farms"
<edna@texomaonline.com> wrote:
>Paul, the GEF 5200 doesn't support that resolution. you will have to move
>up to at least the 6000 series cards. Seems like I saw a 6200 at Newegg for
>$35.
>Edna
>"Paul Artola" <artola@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:tbotn2hrqeut0tpkbiqliibb48sumgslaj@4ax.com...
>> OK, I finally upgrade from 19" CRTs to 22"-widescreen LCDs, but now I
>> can't get my Paris machine to recognize the monitor. The machine is a
>> 1GHz Pentium III box with a Chaintech Nvidia Geforce FX5200 video
>> card. I am driving an Hitachi 19" CRT off the analog port of the card
>> and my new Acer 2216 monitor off the digital port. I have d/l'ed the
>> latest Nvidia drivers that claim to allow me to specify manually the
>> 1680x1050x60ns resolution of the monitor, but whenever I do this, I
>> get a popup claiming that setting cannot be supported.
>>
>> I can get things to work at 1600x900 (actually the Nvidia driver then
>> resets the 900 to 896!) but when I try to do anything after that, the
>> Acer blinks off/on for the rest of the session...
>>
>> ...so, can anyone suggest a video card for me? I think I am basically
>> screwed here, because I need:
>>
>> 1. AGP
>> 2. WinME
>> 3. WSXGA+ (i.e. 1680x1050x60s)
>>
>> Looks like 2 + 3 = 0 here!
>>
>> - Paul Artola
>> Ellicott City, Maryland
>>
>> p.s. Upgrading the Paris machine to a newer, WinXP one is not an
>> option.
>>
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| Re: Video card blues [message #76992 is a reply to message #76966] |
Wed, 13 December 2006 09:04 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
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Hey Paul,
Nvidia uses a substandard clock on the 5200 fx (and maybe the 6200, I'm not
positive so be careful) cards. Because of the clocking problems I think they
clunk out when the pixel count gets above 1600x1200 regardless of aspect
ratio. I forget the specifics but I discovered this when I tried to get my
24" Dell running on my new Debian box and, lo and behold, no love from the
5200 fx.
In the nVidia line the bang for the buck price point is usually the $95-125
range which right now means probably a 7300 or 7600. They are pretty fancy
cards for an audio box, and there are 7300 models that are passively cooled
to keep noise down.
Good luck,
TCB
Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>OK, I finally upgrade from 19" CRTs to 22"-widescreen LCDs, but now I
>can't get my Paris machine to recognize the monitor. The machine is a
>1GHz Pentium III box with a Chaintech Nvidia Geforce FX5200 video
>card. I am driving an Hitachi 19" CRT off the analog port of the card
>and my new Acer 2216 monitor off the digital port. I have d/l'ed the
>latest Nvidia drivers that claim to allow me to specify manually the
>1680x1050x60ns resolution of the monitor, but whenever I do this, I
>get a popup claiming that setting cannot be supported.
>
>I can get things to work at 1600x900 (actually the Nvidia driver then
>resets the 900 to 896!) but when I try to do anything after that, the
>Acer blinks off/on for the rest of the session...
>
>...so, can anyone suggest a video card for me? I think I am basically
>screwed here, because I need:
>
>1. AGP
>2. WinME
>3. WSXGA+ (i.e. 1680x1050x60s)
>
>Looks like 2 + 3 = 0 here!
>
>- Paul Artola
> Ellicott City, Maryland
>
>p.s. Upgrading the Paris machine to a newer, WinXP one is not an
>option.
>
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