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| Behringer Reverb opinion? [message #75556] |
Tue, 07 November 2006 13:28  |
zmora
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Any opinion about Behringer V-Verb Pro 9024 and Virtualizer DSP 2024p?Apart
this, V-Verb Pro not for official sale in EU, only private auction on Ebay.
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| Re: Behringer Reverb opinion? [message #75569 is a reply to message #75563] |
Tue, 07 November 2006 17:19  |
Aaron Allen
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I had a behr verb, it shot craps days outside of it's warranty. I wasn't
that impressed with it to begin with, so I didn't even put up a fight,
rather it made for a nice doorstop. Don't remember the model ( you can see
what a great impression it made here, heh. )
I have owned some pretty decent Behr stuff, but the verb was far from that
list. YMMV.
AA
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4550fa98$1@linux...
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> "zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
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>>Any opinion about Behringer V-Verb Pro 9024 and Virtualizer DSP
>>2024p?Apart
>>this, V-Verb Pro not for official sale in EU, only private auction on
>>Ebay.
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> If it comes with it's own fire extinguisher, it might be OK...
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> ...unless the fire extinguisher is a Beheringer model, too.
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| Re: Behringer Reverb opinion? [message #75592 is a reply to message #75569] |
Wed, 08 November 2006 06:01 |
AlexPlasko
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I have/had a few behringer pieces ,and they all worked great. never had any
trouble. I had an edison, an ultracurve pro, and i recently grabbed an
ultracoustic guitar amp.
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:45512e45@linux...
>I had a behr verb, it shot craps days outside of it's warranty. I wasn't
>that impressed with it to begin with, so I didn't even put up a fight,
>rather it made for a nice doorstop. Don't remember the model ( you can see
>what a great impression it made here, heh. )
> I have owned some pretty decent Behr stuff, but the verb was far from that
> list. YMMV.
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> AA
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> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4550fa98$1@linux...
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>> "zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
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>>>Any opinion about Behringer V-Verb Pro 9024 and Virtualizer DSP
>>>2024p?Apart
>>>this, V-Verb Pro not for official sale in EU, only private auction on
>>>Ebay.
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>> If it comes with it's own fire extinguisher, it might be OK...
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>> ...unless the fire extinguisher is a Beheringer model, too.
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| Re: Behringer Reverb opinion? [message #75594 is a reply to message #75592] |
Wed, 08 November 2006 07:05 |
Neil
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"alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote:
>I have/had a few behringer pieces ,and they all worked great. never had
any
>trouble. I had an edison, an ultracurve pro, and i recently grabbed an
>ultracoustic guitar amp.
And therein lies the problem with their gear - inconsistency.
Some people get pieces that work fine, while enough other people
get pieces that die way too soon, catch fire, etc. I wouldn't
chance it on this stuff myself... not worth the risk unless you
don't mind taking high-percentage risk on throwing away however
much money you spent on the items.
Neil
>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>news:45512e45@linux...
>>I had a behr verb, it shot craps days outside of it's warranty. I wasn't
>>that impressed with it to begin with, so I didn't even put up a fight,
>>rather it made for a nice doorstop. Don't remember the model ( you can
see
>>what a great impression it made here, heh. )
>> I have owned some pretty decent Behr stuff, but the verb was far from
that
>> list. YMMV.
>>
>> AA
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>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4550fa98$1@linux...
>>>
>>> "zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Any opinion about Behringer V-Verb Pro 9024 and Virtualizer DSP
>>>>2024p?Apart
>>>>this, V-Verb Pro not for official sale in EU, only private auction on
>>>>Ebay.
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>>> If it comes with it's own fire extinguisher, it might be OK...
>>>
>>> ...unless the fire extinguisher is a Beheringer model, too.
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| Re: Behringer Reverb opinion? [message #75603 is a reply to message #75594] |
Wed, 08 November 2006 08:15 |
AlexPlasko
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unfortunately , they all break. maybe not as frequently as ballringer shit.
I had a $4500 fuckusrite 215 crap out days out of warranty .I was NOT
happy. they were nice enough to fix it for $250. luckily my good friend
morgan sent it out for me. it probably would have been more money if i sent
it out myself.If it happens again im going to plink holes in it with my
AR-15 and watch it burn in my fireplace.
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4551e432$1@linux...
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> "alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote:
>>I have/had a few behringer pieces ,and they all worked great. never had
> any
>>trouble. I had an edison, an ultracurve pro, and i recently grabbed an
>>ultracoustic guitar amp.
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> And therein lies the problem with their gear - inconsistency.
> Some people get pieces that work fine, while enough other people
> get pieces that die way too soon, catch fire, etc. I wouldn't
> chance it on this stuff myself... not worth the risk unless you
> don't mind taking high-percentage risk on throwing away however
> much money you spent on the items.
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> Neil
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>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>news:45512e45@linux...
>>>I had a behr verb, it shot craps days outside of it's warranty. I wasn't
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>>>that impressed with it to begin with, so I didn't even put up a fight,
>
>>>rather it made for a nice doorstop. Don't remember the model ( you can
> see
>>>what a great impression it made here, heh. )
>>> I have owned some pretty decent Behr stuff, but the verb was far from
> that
>>> list. YMMV.
>>>
>>> AA
>>>
>>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4550fa98$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> "zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Any opinion about Behringer V-Verb Pro 9024 and Virtualizer DSP
>>>>>2024p?Apart
>>>>>this, V-Verb Pro not for official sale in EU, only private auction on
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>>>>>Ebay.
>>>>
>>>> If it comes with it's own fire extinguisher, it might be OK...
>>>>
>>>> ...unless the fire extinguisher is a Beheringer model, too.
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| Re: Behringer Reverb opinion? [message #75625 is a reply to message #75592] |
Wed, 08 November 2006 10:39 |
zmora
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Opinion about bad technical quality of Behringer is myth.I have Ultradyne
Pro many years without any troubles.Also I had few other Beringers like Ultrafex,
Composer, Ultramach and others now I dont't remember them all.But anyway,
they never destroyed, I sold them in exelent condition.I heard from other
peoples bad opinion about quality of made, I dont't accept.Other story is
sound quality, it is allways subjective and in my opinion much of Behringer
pieces are good or enought good for use, particulary for low price vs. to
other company.I don't know new reverbs why I asked on this forum.Old Virtualizer
1000P dont't satisfied my ears, but few person good talk about V-Verb 2496
and new Virtualizer DSP 2024P, this last one cost about 130 Eur only.
zmora
"alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote:
>I have/had a few behringer pieces ,and they all worked great. never had
any
>trouble. I had an edison, an ultracurve pro, and i recently grabbed an
>ultracoustic guitar amp.
>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>news:45512e45@linux...
>>I had a behr verb, it shot craps days outside of it's warranty. I wasn't
>>that impressed with it to begin with, so I didn't even put up a fight,
>>rather it made for a nice doorstop. Don't remember the model ( you can
see
>>what a great impression it made here, heh. )
>> I have owned some pretty decent Behr stuff, but the verb was far from
that
>> list. YMMV.
>>
>> AA
>>
>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4550fa98$1@linux...
>>>
>>> "zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Any opinion about Behringer V-Verb Pro 9024 and Virtualizer DSP
>>>>2024p?Apart
>>>>this, V-Verb Pro not for official sale in EU, only private auction on
>>>>Ebay.
>>>
>>> If it comes with it's own fire extinguisher, it might be OK...
>>>
>>> ...unless the fire extinguisher is a Beheringer model, too.
>>>
>>>
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| Re: Behringer Reverb opinion? [message #75629 is a reply to message #75625] |
Wed, 08 November 2006 11:24 |
John [1]
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And their manuals are junk too.
zmora wrote:
> Opinion about bad technical quality of Behringer is myth.I have Ultradyne
> Pro many years without any troubles.Also I had few other Beringers like Ultrafex,
> Composer, Ultramach and others now I dont't remember them all.But anyway,
> they never destroyed, I sold them in exelent condition.I heard from other
> peoples bad opinion about quality of made, I dont't accept.Other story is
> sound quality, it is allways subjective and in my opinion much of Behringer
> pieces are good or enought good for use, particulary for low price vs. to
> other company.I don't know new reverbs why I asked on this forum.Old Virtualizer
> 1000P dont't satisfied my ears, but few person good talk about V-Verb 2496
> and new Virtualizer DSP 2024P, this last one cost about 130 Eur only.
>
> zmora
>
>
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> "alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote:
>> I have/had a few behringer pieces ,and they all worked great. never had
> any
>> trouble. I had an edison, an ultracurve pro, and i recently grabbed an
>> ultracoustic guitar amp.
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>> news:45512e45@linux...
>>> I had a behr verb, it shot craps days outside of it's warranty. I wasn't
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>>> that impressed with it to begin with, so I didn't even put up a fight,
>
>>> rather it made for a nice doorstop. Don't remember the model ( you can
> see
>>> what a great impression it made here, heh. )
>>> I have owned some pretty decent Behr stuff, but the verb was far from
> that
>>> list. YMMV.
>>>
>>> AA
>>>
>>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4550fa98$1@linux...
>>>> "zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>> Any opinion about Behringer V-Verb Pro 9024 and Virtualizer DSP
>>>>> 2024p?Apart
>>>>> this, V-Verb Pro not for official sale in EU, only private auction on
>
>>>>> Ebay.
>>>> If it comes with it's own fire extinguisher, it might be OK...
>>>>
>>>> ...unless the fire extinguisher is a Beheringer model, too.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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| Re: Behringer Reverb opinion? [message #75637 is a reply to message #75625] |
Wed, 08 November 2006 14:33 |
aaron allen[1]
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If you have a $130 euro to toss and you believe in their quality, go for it.
That's not a lot of dough if it comes up a winner, just make sure you can
dump that thing on ebay/in your area and not completely lose your $$$.
AA
"zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
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>Opinion about bad technical quality of Behringer is myth.I have Ultradyne
>Pro many years without any troubles.Also I had few other Beringers like
Ultrafex,
>Composer, Ultramach and others now I dont't remember them all.But anyway,
>they never destroyed, I sold them in exelent condition.I heard from other
>peoples bad opinion about quality of made, I dont't accept.Other story is
>sound quality, it is allways subjective and in my opinion much of Behringer
>pieces are good or enought good for use, particulary for low price vs. to
>other company.I don't know new reverbs why I asked on this forum.Old Virtualizer
>1000P dont't satisfied my ears, but few person good talk about V-Verb 2496
>and new Virtualizer DSP 2024P, this last one cost about 130 Eur only.
>
>zmora
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>"alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote:
>>I have/had a few behringer pieces ,and they all worked great. never had
>any
>>trouble. I had an edison, an ultracurve pro, and i recently grabbed an
>>ultracoustic guitar amp.
>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>news:45512e45@linux...
>>>I had a behr verb, it shot craps days outside of it's warranty. I wasn't
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>>>that impressed with it to begin with, so I didn't even put up a fight,
>
>>>rather it made for a nice doorstop. Don't remember the model ( you can
>see
>>>what a great impression it made here, heh. )
>>> I have owned some pretty decent Behr stuff, but the verb was far from
>that
>>> list. YMMV.
>>>
>>> AA
>>>
>>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4550fa98$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> "zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Any opinion about Behringer V-Verb Pro 9024 and Virtualizer DSP
>>>>>2024p?Apart
>>>>>this, V-Verb Pro not for official sale in EU, only private auction on
>
>>>>>Ebay.
>>>>
>>>> If it comes with it's own fire extinguisher, it might be OK...
>>>>
>>>> ...unless the fire extinguisher is a Beheringer model, too.
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
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| Re: Behringer Reverb opinion? [message #75646 is a reply to message #75637] |
Wed, 08 November 2006 15:36 |
zmora
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Unfortunately not dealer of Behringer in my city now.
I still asked because lost 130 Eur is not nice too
I want reverb unit with diffrent sound but quality similar to Paris EDS.Particulary
interesting in big long tail verb but brighter.I dont like TC, I tryed all
units (colegue is dealer of TC).I don't like TC pieces at all, sorry...
Not money for AMS...
"aaron allen" <no@spam.net> wrote:
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>If you have a $130 euro to toss and you believe in their quality, go for
it.
>That's not a lot of dough if it comes up a winner, just make sure you can
>dump that thing on ebay/in your area and not completely lose your $$$.
>
>AA
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>"zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
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>>Opinion about bad technical quality of Behringer is myth.I have Ultradyne
>>Pro many years without any troubles.Also I had few other Beringers like
>Ultrafex,
>>Composer, Ultramach and others now I dont't remember them all.But anyway,
>>they never destroyed, I sold them in exelent condition.I heard from other
>>peoples bad opinion about quality of made, I dont't accept.Other story
is
>>sound quality, it is allways subjective and in my opinion much of Behringer
>>pieces are good or enought good for use, particulary for low price vs.
to
>>other company.I don't know new reverbs why I asked on this forum.Old Virtualizer
>>1000P dont't satisfied my ears, but few person good talk about V-Verb 2496
>>and new Virtualizer DSP 2024P, this last one cost about 130 Eur only.
>>
>>zmora
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>>"alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote:
>>>I have/had a few behringer pieces ,and they all worked great. never had
>>any
>>>trouble. I had an edison, an ultracurve pro, and i recently grabbed an
>
>>>ultracoustic guitar amp.
>>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>news:45512e45@linux...
>>>>I had a behr verb, it shot craps days outside of it's warranty. I wasn't
>>
>>>>that impressed with it to begin with, so I didn't even put up a fight,
>>
>>>>rather it made for a nice doorstop. Don't remember the model ( you can
>>see
>>>>what a great impression it made here, heh. )
>>>> I have owned some pretty decent Behr stuff, but the verb was far from
>>that
>>>> list. YMMV.
>>>>
>>>> AA
>>>>
>>>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4550fa98$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> "zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Any opinion about Behringer V-Verb Pro 9024 and Virtualizer DSP
>>>>>>2024p?Apart
>>>>>>this, V-Verb Pro not for official sale in EU, only private auction
on
>>
>>>>>>Ebay.
>>>>>
>>>>> If it comes with it's own fire extinguisher, it might be OK...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...unless the fire extinguisher is a Beheringer model, too.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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| Re: Behringer Reverb opinion? [message #75648 is a reply to message #75646] |
Wed, 08 November 2006 15:31 |
Tom Bruhl
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Zmora,
You can tailor the EDS Plate pretty nicely with a BarbEQ in front of it
on the aux bus. I like cutting a hole in the lower mids for guitars
and vocals sometimes. Just use the peaking filter and cut where
you need to.
Tom
"zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote in message news:45525c00$1@linux...
Unfortunately not dealer of Behringer in my city now.
I still asked because lost 130 Eur is not nice too
I want reverb unit with diffrent sound but quality similar to Paris =
EDS.Particulary
interesting in big long tail verb but brighter.I dont like TC, I tryed =
all
units (colegue is dealer of TC).I don't like TC pieces at all, =
sorry...
Not money for AMS...
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"aaron allen" <no@spam.net> wrote:
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>If you have a $130 euro to toss and you believe in their quality, go =
for
it.
>That's not a lot of dough if it comes up a winner, just make sure you =
can
>dump that thing on ebay/in your area and not completely lose your =
$$$.
>
>AA
>
>"zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
>>
>>Opinion about bad technical quality of Behringer is myth.I have =
Ultradyne
>>Pro many years without any troubles.Also I had few other Beringers =
like
>Ultrafex,
>>Composer, Ultramach and others now I dont't remember them all.But =
anyway,
>>they never destroyed, I sold them in exelent condition.I heard from =
other
>>peoples bad opinion about quality of made, I dont't accept.Other =
story
is
>>sound quality, it is allways subjective and in my opinion much of =
Behringer
>>pieces are good or enought good for use, particulary for low price =
vs.
to
>>other company.I don't know new reverbs why I asked on this forum.Old =
Virtualizer
>>1000P dont't satisfied my ears, but few person good talk about =
V-Verb 2496
>>and new Virtualizer DSP 2024P, this last one cost about 130 Eur =
only.
>>
>>zmora
>>
>>
>>=20
>>"alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote:
>>>I have/had a few behringer pieces ,and they all worked great. never =
had
>>any=20
>>>trouble. I had an edison, an ultracurve pro, and i recently grabbed =
an
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>>>ultracoustic guitar amp.
>>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message=20
>>>news:45512e45@linux...
>>>>I had a behr verb, it shot craps days outside of it's warranty. I =
wasn't
>>
>>>>that impressed with it to begin with, so I didn't even put up a =
fight,
>>
>>>>rather it made for a nice doorstop. Don't remember the model ( you =
can
>>see=20
>>>>what a great impression it made here, heh. )
>>>> I have owned some pretty decent Behr stuff, but the verb was far =
from
>>that=20
>>>> list. YMMV.
>>>>
>>>> AA
>>>>
>>>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4550fa98$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> "zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Any opinion about Behringer V-Verb Pro 9024 and Virtualizer DSP=20
>>>>>>2024p?Apart
>>>>>>this, V-Verb Pro not for official sale in EU, only private =
auction
on
>>
>>>>>>Ebay.
>>>>>
>>>>> If it comes with it's own fire extinguisher, it might be OK...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...unless the fire extinguisher is a Beheringer model, too.
>>>>>
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>>>>=20
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>>>
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brighter.I=20
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just make=20
sure you can<BR>>dump that thing on ebay/in your area and not =
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wrote:<BR>>><BR>>>Opinion about bad technical quality of =
Behringer=20
is myth.I have Ultradyne<BR>>>Pro many years without any =
troubles.Also I=20
had few other Beringers like<BR>>Ultrafex,<BR>>>Composer, =
Ultramach=20
and others now I dont't remember them all.But anyway,<BR>>>they =
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other<BR>>>peoples bad opinion about quality of made, I dont't=20
accept.Other story<BR>is<BR>>>sound quality, it is allways =
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for use, particulary for low price vs.<BR>to<BR>>>other =
company.I don't=20
know new reverbs why I asked on this forum.Old =
Virtualizer<BR>>>1000P=20
dont't satisfied my ears, but few person good talk about V-Verb=20
2496<BR>>>and new Virtualizer DSP 2024P, this last one cost =
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<BR>>>"alex plasko" <<A=20
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wrote:<BR>>>>I have/had a few behringer pieces ,and they all =
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| Re: Behringer Reverb opinion? [message #75655 is a reply to message #75646] |
Wed, 08 November 2006 17:15 |
John [1]
Messages: 2229
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Who would want a reverb like a Paris EDS. eewwww
zmora wrote:
> Unfortunately not dealer of Behringer in my city now.
> I still asked because lost 130 Eur is not nice too
> I want reverb unit with diffrent sound but quality similar to Paris EDS.Particulary
> interesting in big long tail verb but brighter.I dont like TC, I tryed all
> units (colegue is dealer of TC).I don't like TC pieces at all, sorry...
> Not money for AMS...
>
>
>
>
>
> "aaron allen" <no@spam.net> wrote:
>> If you have a $130 euro to toss and you believe in their quality, go for
> it.
>> That's not a lot of dough if it comes up a winner, just make sure you can
>> dump that thing on ebay/in your area and not completely lose your $$$.
>>
>> AA
>>
>> "zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
>>> Opinion about bad technical quality of Behringer is myth.I have Ultradyne
>>> Pro many years without any troubles.Also I had few other Beringers like
>> Ultrafex,
>>> Composer, Ultramach and others now I dont't remember them all.But anyway,
>>> they never destroyed, I sold them in exelent condition.I heard from other
>>> peoples bad opinion about quality of made, I dont't accept.Other story
> is
>>> sound quality, it is allways subjective and in my opinion much of Behringer
>>> pieces are good or enought good for use, particulary for low price vs.
> to
>>> other company.I don't know new reverbs why I asked on this forum.Old Virtualizer
>>> 1000P dont't satisfied my ears, but few person good talk about V-Verb 2496
>>> and new Virtualizer DSP 2024P, this last one cost about 130 Eur only.
>>>
>>> zmora
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote:
>>>> I have/had a few behringer pieces ,and they all worked great. never had
>>> any
>>>> trouble. I had an edison, an ultracurve pro, and i recently grabbed an
>>>> ultracoustic guitar amp.
>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>> news:45512e45@linux...
>>>>> I had a behr verb, it shot craps days outside of it's warranty. I wasn't
>>>>> that impressed with it to begin with, so I didn't even put up a fight,
>>>>> rather it made for a nice doorstop. Don't remember the model ( you can
>>> see
>>>>> what a great impression it made here, heh. )
>>>>> I have owned some pretty decent Behr stuff, but the verb was far from
>>> that
>>>>> list. YMMV.
>>>>>
>>>>> AA
>>>>>
>>>>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4550fa98$1@linux...
>>>>>> "zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>>>> Any opinion about Behringer V-Verb Pro 9024 and Virtualizer DSP
>>>>>>> 2024p?Apart
>>>>>>> this, V-Verb Pro not for official sale in EU, only private auction
> on
>>>>>>> Ebay.
>>>>>> If it comes with it's own fire extinguisher, it might be OK...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...unless the fire extinguisher is a Beheringer model, too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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| Re: Behringer Reverb opinion? [message #75662 is a reply to message #75655] |
Wed, 08 November 2006 18:55 |
AlexPlasko
Messages: 211
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actually john , the ensoniq dp pro has excellent reverbs. It has IIRC, 4
ensoniq dsp chips onboard.That unit was the precursor to paris dsp, or so i
was told.
too bad they stopped development on it .I wanted the digi card for it but
that was vaporware.
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:45527ed1$1@linux...
> Who would want a reverb like a Paris EDS. eewwww
>
> zmora wrote:
>> Unfortunately not dealer of Behringer in my city now.
>> I still asked because lost 130 Eur is not nice too
>> I want reverb unit with diffrent sound but quality similar to Paris
>> EDS.Particulary
>> interesting in big long tail verb but brighter.I dont like TC, I tryed
>> all
>> units (colegue is dealer of TC).I don't like TC pieces at all, sorry...
>> Not money for AMS...
>> "aaron allen" <no@spam.net> wrote:
>>> If you have a $130 euro to toss and you believe in their quality, go for
>> it.
>>> That's not a lot of dough if it comes up a winner, just make sure you
>>> can
>>> dump that thing on ebay/in your area and not completely lose your $$$.
>>>
>>> AA
>>>
>>> "zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>> Opinion about bad technical quality of Behringer is myth.I have
>>>> Ultradyne
>>>> Pro many years without any troubles.Also I had few other Beringers like
>>> Ultrafex,
>>>> Composer, Ultramach and others now I dont't remember them all.But
>>>> anyway,
>>>> they never destroyed, I sold them in exelent condition.I heard from
>>>> other
>>>> peoples bad opinion about quality of made, I dont't accept.Other story
>> is
>>>> sound quality, it is allways subjective and in my opinion much of
>>>> Behringer
>>>> pieces are good or enought good for use, particulary for low price vs.
>> to
>>>> other company.I don't know new reverbs why I asked on this forum.Old
>>>> Virtualizer
>>>> 1000P dont't satisfied my ears, but few person good talk about V-Verb
>>>> 2496
>>>> and new Virtualizer DSP 2024P, this last one cost about 130 Eur only.
>>>>
>>>> zmora
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote:
>>>>> I have/had a few behringer pieces ,and they all worked great. never
>>>>> had
>>>> any
>>>>> trouble. I had an edison, an ultracurve pro, and i recently grabbed an
>>>>> ultracoustic guitar amp.
>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>> news:45512e45@linux...
>>>>>> I had a behr verb, it shot craps days outside of it's warranty. I
>>>>>> wasn't
>>>>>> that impressed with it to begin with, so I didn't even put up a
>>>>>> fight,
>>>>>> rather it made for a nice doorstop. Don't remember the model ( you
>>>>>> can
>>>> see
>>>>>> what a great impression it made here, heh. )
>>>>>> I have owned some pretty decent Behr stuff, but the verb was far from
>>>> that
>>>>>> list. YMMV.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4550fa98$1@linux...
>>>>>>> "zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Any opinion about Behringer V-Verb Pro 9024 and Virtualizer DSP
>>>>>>>> 2024p?Apart
>>>>>>>> this, V-Verb Pro not for official sale in EU, only private auction
>> on
>>>>>>>> Ebay.
>>>>>>> If it comes with it's own fire extinguisher, it might be OK...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...unless the fire extinguisher is a Beheringer model, too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
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| Re: Behringer Reverb opinion? [message #75668 is a reply to message #75655] |
Wed, 08 November 2006 21:02 |
LaMont
Messages: 828
Registered: October 2005
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I love Paris's Verbs.. Use them all the time. The verbs were one the first
things that made me fall in love with Paris.. The Plate verb justt sits in
a mix just right..
John <no@no.com> wrote:
>Who would want a reverb like a Paris EDS. eewwww
>
>zmora wrote:
>> Unfortunately not dealer of Behringer in my city now.
>> I still asked because lost 130 Eur is not nice too
>> I want reverb unit with diffrent sound but quality similar to Paris EDS.Particulary
>> interesting in big long tail verb but brighter.I dont like TC, I tryed
all
>> units (colegue is dealer of TC).I don't like TC pieces at all, sorry...
>> Not money for AMS...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "aaron allen" <no@spam.net> wrote:
>>> If you have a $130 euro to toss and you believe in their quality, go
for
>> it.
>>> That's not a lot of dough if it comes up a winner, just make sure you
can
>>> dump that thing on ebay/in your area and not completely lose your $$$.
>>>
>>> AA
>>>
>>> "zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>> Opinion about bad technical quality of Behringer is myth.I have Ultradyne
>>>> Pro many years without any troubles.Also I had few other Beringers like
>>> Ultrafex,
>>>> Composer, Ultramach and others now I dont't remember them all.But anyway,
>>>> they never destroyed, I sold them in exelent condition.I heard from
other
>>>> peoples bad opinion about quality of made, I dont't accept.Other story
>> is
>>>> sound quality, it is allways subjective and in my opinion much of Behringer
>>>> pieces are good or enought good for use, particulary for low price vs.
>> to
>>>> other company.I don't know new reverbs why I asked on this forum.Old
Virtualizer
>>>> 1000P dont't satisfied my ears, but few person good talk about V-Verb
2496
>>>> and new Virtualizer DSP 2024P, this last one cost about 130 Eur only.
>>>>
>>>> zmora
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote:
>>>>> I have/had a few behringer pieces ,and they all worked great. never
had
>>>> any
>>>>> trouble. I had an edison, an ultracurve pro, and i recently grabbed
an
>>>>> ultracoustic guitar amp.
>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>> news:45512e45@linux...
>>>>>> I had a behr verb, it shot craps days outside of it's warranty. I
wasn't
>>>>>> that impressed with it to begin with, so I didn't even put up a fight,
>>>>>> rather it made for a nice doorstop. Don't remember the model ( you
can
>>>> see
>>>>>> what a great impression it made here, heh. )
>>>>>> I have owned some pretty decent Behr stuff, but the verb was far from
>>>> that
>>>>>> list. YMMV.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4550fa98$1@linux...
>>>>>>> "zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Any opinion about Behringer V-Verb Pro 9024 and Virtualizer DSP
>>>>>>>> 2024p?Apart
>>>>>>>> this, V-Verb Pro not for official sale in EU, only private auction
>> on
>>>>>>>> Ebay.
>>>>>>> If it comes with it's own fire extinguisher, it might be OK...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...unless the fire extinguisher is a Beheringer model, too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
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| Re: Behringer Reverb opinion? [message #75676 is a reply to message #75668] |
Wed, 08 November 2006 21:37 |
Neil
Messages: 1645
Registered: April 2006
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Lamont, you & I don't agree about much, but:
1.) PT HD Does sound really good.
2.) Paris Plate rocks the house.
That's good enough for me. lol
Neil
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.ne> wrote:
>
>I love Paris's Verbs.. Use them all the time. The verbs were one the first
>things that made me fall in love with Paris.. The Plate verb justt sits
in
>a mix just right..
>
>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>Who would want a reverb like a Paris EDS. eewwww
>>
>>zmora wrote:
>>> Unfortunately not dealer of Behringer in my city now.
>>> I still asked because lost 130 Eur is not nice too
>>> I want reverb unit with diffrent sound but quality similar to Paris EDS.Particulary
>>> interesting in big long tail verb but brighter.I dont like TC, I tryed
>all
>>> units (colegue is dealer of TC).I don't like TC pieces at all, sorry...
>>> Not money for AMS...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "aaron allen" <no@spam.net> wrote:
>>>> If you have a $130 euro to toss and you believe in their quality, go
>for
>>> it.
>>>> That's not a lot of dough if it comes up a winner, just make sure you
>can
>>>> dump that thing on ebay/in your area and not completely lose your $$$.
>>>>
>>>> AA
>>>>
>>>> "zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>> Opinion about bad technical quality of Behringer is myth.I have Ultradyne
>>>>> Pro many years without any troubles.Also I had few other Beringers
like
>>>> Ultrafex,
>>>>> Composer, Ultramach and others now I dont't remember them all.But anyway,
>>>>> they never destroyed, I sold them in exelent condition.I heard from
>other
>>>>> peoples bad opinion about quality of made, I dont't accept.Other story
>>> is
>>>>> sound quality, it is allways subjective and in my opinion much of Behringer
>>>>> pieces are good or enought good for use, particulary for low price
vs.
>>> to
>>>>> other company.I don't know new reverbs why I asked on this forum.Old
>Virtualizer
>>>>> 1000P dont't satisfied my ears, but few person good talk about V-Verb
>2496
>>>>> and new Virtualizer DSP 2024P, this last one cost about 130 Eur only.
>>>>>
>>>>> zmora
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote:
>>>>>> I have/had a few behringer pieces ,and they all worked great. never
>had
>>>>> any
>>>>>> trouble. I had an edison, an ultracurve pro, and i recently grabbed
>an
>>>>>> ultracoustic guitar amp.
>>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:45512e45@linux...
>>>>>>> I had a behr verb, it shot craps days outside of it's warranty. I
>wasn't
>>>>>>> that impressed with it to begin with, so I didn't even put up a fight,
>>>>>>> rather it made for a nice doorstop. Don't remember the model ( you
>can
>>>>> see
>>>>>>> what a great impression it made here, heh. )
>>>>>>> I have owned some pretty decent Behr stuff, but the verb was far
from
>>>>> that
>>>>>>> list. YMMV.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4550fa98$1@linux...
>>>>>>>> "zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Any opinion about Behringer V-Verb Pro 9024 and Virtualizer DSP
>
>>>>>>>>> 2024p?Apart
>>>>>>>>> this, V-Verb Pro not for official sale in EU, only private auction
>>> on
>>>>>>>>> Ebay.
>>>>>>>> If it comes with it's own fire extinguisher, it might be OK...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ...unless the fire extinguisher is a Beheringer model, too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
>
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| Re: Behringer Reverb opinion? [message #75690 is a reply to message #75655] |
Wed, 08 November 2006 23:43 |
Martin Harrington
Messages: 560
Registered: September 2005
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John,
I don't think this is the place to start dissing Paris, now that you've
jumped ship.
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:45527ed1$1@linux...
> Who would want a reverb like a Paris EDS. eewwww
>
> zmora wrote:
>> Unfortunately not dealer of Behringer in my city now.
>> I still asked because lost 130 Eur is not nice too
>> I want reverb unit with diffrent sound but quality similar to Paris
>> EDS.Particulary
>> interesting in big long tail verb but brighter.I dont like TC, I tryed
>> all
>> units (colegue is dealer of TC).I don't like TC pieces at all, sorry...
>> Not money for AMS...
>> "aaron allen" <no@spam.net> wrote:
>>> If you have a $130 euro to toss and you believe in their quality, go for
>> it.
>>> That's not a lot of dough if it comes up a winner, just make sure you
>>> can
>>> dump that thing on ebay/in your area and not completely lose your $$$.
>>>
>>> AA
>>>
>>> "zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>> Opinion about bad technical quality of Behringer is myth.I have
>>>> Ultradyne
>>>> Pro many years without any troubles.Also I had few other Beringers like
>>> Ultrafex,
>>>> Composer, Ultramach and others now I dont't remember them all.But
>>>> anyway,
>>>> they never destroyed, I sold them in exelent condition.I heard from
>>>> other
>>>> peoples bad opinion about quality of made, I dont't accept.Other story
>> is
>>>> sound quality, it is allways subjective and in my opinion much of
>>>> Behringer
>>>> pieces are good or enought good for use, particulary for low price vs.
>> to
>>>> other company.I don't know new reverbs why I asked on this forum.Old
>>>> Virtualizer
>>>> 1000P dont't satisfied my ears, but few person good talk about V-Verb
>>>> 2496
>>>> and new Virtualizer DSP 2024P, this last one cost about 130 Eur only.
>>>>
>>>> zmora
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote:
>>>>> I have/had a few behringer pieces ,and they all worked great. never
>>>>> had
>>>> any
>>>>> trouble. I had an edison, an ultracurve pro, and i recently grabbed an
>>>>> ultracoustic guitar amp.
>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>> news:45512e45@linux...
>>>>>> I had a behr verb, it shot craps days outside of it's warranty. I
>>>>>> wasn't
>>>>>> that impressed with it to begin with, so I didn't even put up a
>>>>>> fight,
>>>>>> rather it made for a nice doorstop. Don't remember the model ( you
>>>>>> can
>>>> see
>>>>>> what a great impression it made here, heh. )
>>>>>> I have owned some pretty decent Behr stuff, but the verb was far from
>>>> that
>>>>>> list. YMMV.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4550fa98$1@linux...
>>>>>>> "zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Any opinion about Behringer V-Verb Pro 9024 and Virtualizer DSP
>>>>>>>> 2024p?Apart
>>>>>>>> this, V-Verb Pro not for official sale in EU, only private auction
>> on
>>>>>>>> Ebay.
>>>>>>> If it comes with it's own fire extinguisher, it might be OK...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...unless the fire extinguisher is a Beheringer model, too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
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| Re: Behringer Reverb opinion? [message #75691 is a reply to message #75648] |
Thu, 09 November 2006 02:46 |
zmora docent1912WPPL
Messages: 1
Registered: November 2006
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Tom,I know I do exactly what you say and Im happy with result.
Im looking for other reverb unit with big hall true stereo similar to Room
Reverb with long rev time but with better tail and less ringing.Thanks
zmora
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Zmora,
>You can tailor the EDS Plate pretty nicely with a BarbEQ in front of it
>on the aux bus. I like cutting a hole in the lower mids for guitars
>and vocals sometimes. Just use the peaking filter and cut where
>you need to.
>Tom
>
>
> "zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote in message news:45525c00$1@linux...
>
> Unfortunately not dealer of Behringer in my city now.
> I still asked because lost 130 Eur is not nice too
> I want reverb unit with diffrent sound but quality similar to Paris =
>EDS.Particulary
> interesting in big long tail verb but brighter.I dont like TC, I tryed
=
>all
> units (colegue is dealer of TC).I don't like TC pieces at all, =
>sorry...
> Not money for AMS...
> =20
>
>
>
>
> "aaron allen" <no@spam.net> wrote:
> >
> >If you have a $130 euro to toss and you believe in their quality, go
=
>for
> it.
> >That's not a lot of dough if it comes up a winner, just make sure you
=
>can
> >dump that thing on ebay/in your area and not completely lose your =
>$$$.
> >
> >AA
> >
> >"zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
> >>
> >>Opinion about bad technical quality of Behringer is myth.I have =
>Ultradyne
> >>Pro many years without any troubles.Also I had few other Beringers =
>like
> >Ultrafex,
> >>Composer, Ultramach and others now I dont't remember them all.But =
>anyway,
> >>they never destroyed, I sold them in exelent condition.I heard from
=
>other
> >>peoples bad opinion about quality of made, I dont't accept.Other =
>story
> is
> >>sound quality, it is allways subjective and in my opinion much of =
>Behringer
> >>pieces are good or enought good for use, particulary for low price =
>vs.
> to
> >>other company.I don't know new reverbs why I asked on this forum.Old
=
>Virtualizer
> >>1000P dont't satisfied my ears, but few person good talk about =
>V-Verb 2496
> >>and new Virtualizer DSP 2024P, this last one cost about 130 Eur =
>only.
> >>
> >>zmora
> >>
> >>
> >>=20
> >>"alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote:
> >>>I have/had a few behringer pieces ,and they all worked great. never
=
>had
> >>any=20
> >>>trouble. I had an edison, an ultracurve pro, and i recently grabbed
=
>an
> >
> >>>ultracoustic guitar amp.
> >>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message=20
> >>>news:45512e45@linux...
> >>>>I had a behr verb, it shot craps days outside of it's warranty. I
=
>wasn't
> >>
> >>>>that impressed with it to begin with, so I didn't even put up a =
>fight,
> >>
> >>>>rather it made for a nice doorstop. Don't remember the model ( you
=
>can
> >>see=20
> >>>>what a great impression it made here, heh. )
> >>>> I have owned some pretty decent Behr stuff, but the verb was far
=
>from
> >>that=20
> >>>> list. YMMV.
> >>>>
> >>>> AA
> >>>>
> >>>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4550fa98$1@linux...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Any opinion about Behringer V-Verb Pro 9024 and Virtualizer DSP=20
> >>>>>>2024p?Apart
> >>>>>>this, V-Verb Pro not for official sale in EU, only private =
>auction
> on
> >>
> >>>>>>Ebay.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If it comes with it's own fire extinguisher, it might be OK...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ...unless the fire extinguisher is a Beheringer model, too.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>=20
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> >
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You can tailor the EDS Plate pretty =
>nicely with a=20
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>on the aux bus. I like cutting a =
>hole in the=20
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>the peaking=20
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| Re: Behringer Reverb opinion? [message #75692 is a reply to message #75690] |
Thu, 09 November 2006 03:24 |
zmora
Messages: 88
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I love Paris, John.It is still the best for me recording system.
Not easy, not full of magic presets but open for creative mind.
Version 3 improved Paris very much.To say about reverbs, I use two Room Verbs
for true stereo, each one for each chanel full left and right panorama (in
and out) on bus and I have wondrfull room, absoluty true stereo.Result is
differet like one Room Verb in stereo mode.I like Paris compressor too.
Martin,my agree...
zmora
"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>John,
>I don't think this is the place to start dissing Paris, now that you've
>jumped ship.
>--
>Martin Harrington
>www.lendanear-sound.com
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:45527ed1$1@linux...
>> Who would want a reverb like a Paris EDS. eewwww
>>
>> zmora wrote:
>>> Unfortunately not dealer of Behringer in my city now.
>>> I still asked because lost 130 Eur is not nice too
>>> I want reverb unit with diffrent sound but quality similar to Paris
>>> EDS.Particulary
>>> interesting in big long tail verb but brighter.I dont like TC, I tryed
>>> all
>>> units (colegue is dealer of TC).I don't like TC pieces at all, sorry...
>>> Not money for AMS...
>>> "aaron allen" <no@spam.net> wrote:
>>>> If you have a $130 euro to toss and you believe in their quality, go
for
>>> it.
>>>> That's not a lot of dough if it comes up a winner, just make sure you
>>>> can
>>>> dump that thing on ebay/in your area and not completely lose your $$$.
>>>>
>>>> AA
>>>>
>>>> "zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>> Opinion about bad technical quality of Behringer is myth.I have
>>>>> Ultradyne
>>>>> Pro many years without any troubles.Also I had few other Beringers
like
>>>> Ultrafex,
>>>>> Composer, Ultramach and others now I dont't remember them all.But
>>>>> anyway,
>>>>> they never destroyed, I sold them in exelent condition.I heard from
>>>>> other
>>>>> peoples bad opinion about quality of made, I dont't accept.Other story
>>> is
>>>>> sound quality, it is allways subjective and in my opinion much of
>>>>> Behringer
>>>>> pieces are good or enought good for use, particulary for low price
vs.
>>> to
>>>>> other company.I don't know new reverbs why I asked on this forum.Old
>>>>> Virtualizer
>>>>> 1000P dont't satisfied my ears, but few person good talk about V-Verb
>>>>> 2496
>>>>> and new Virtualizer DSP 2024P, this last one cost about 130 Eur only.
>>>>>
>>>>> zmora
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote:
>>>>>> I have/had a few behringer pieces ,and they all worked great. never
>>>>>> had
>>>>> any
>>>>>> trouble. I had an edison, an ultracurve pro, and i recently grabbed
an
>>>>>> ultracoustic guitar amp.
>>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:45512e45@linux...
>>>>>>> I had a behr verb, it shot craps days outside of it's warranty. I
>>>>>>> wasn't
>>>>>>> that impressed with it to begin with, so I didn't even put up a
>>>>>>> fight,
>>>>>>> rather it made for a nice doorstop. Don't remember the model ( you
>>>>>>> can
>>>>> see
>>>>>>> what a great impression it made here, heh. )
>>>>>>> I have owned some pretty decent Behr stuff, but the verb was far
from
>>>>> that
>>>>>>> list. YMMV.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4550fa98$1@linux...
>>>>>>>> "zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Any opinion about Behringer V-Verb Pro 9024 and Virtualizer DSP
>>>>>>>>> 2024p?Apart
>>>>>>>>> this, V-Verb Pro not for official sale in EU, only private auction
>>> on
>>>>>>>>> Ebay.
>>>>>>>> If it comes with it's own fire extinguisher, it might be OK...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ...unless the fire extinguisher is a Beheringer model, too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
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| Re: Behringer Reverb opinion? [message #75693 is a reply to message #75692] |
Thu, 09 November 2006 04:02 |
John [1]
Messages: 2229
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You're all wrong. I have always thought the EDS reverb sucked. I'm on
record for that. I will continue to support the strengths of Paris and
point out what I don't like.
zmora wrote:
> I love Paris, John.It is still the best for me recording system.
> Not easy, not full of magic presets but open for creative mind.
> Version 3 improved Paris very much.To say about reverbs, I use two Room Verbs
> for true stereo, each one for each chanel full left and right panorama (in
> and out) on bus and I have wondrfull room, absoluty true stereo.Result is
> differet like one Room Verb in stereo mode.I like Paris compressor too.
> Martin,my agree...
>
> zmora
>
> "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>> John,
>> I don't think this is the place to start dissing Paris, now that you've
>
>> jumped ship.
>> --
>> Martin Harrington
>> www.lendanear-sound.com
>>
>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:45527ed1$1@linux...
>>> Who would want a reverb like a Paris EDS. eewwww
>>>
>>> zmora wrote:
>>>> Unfortunately not dealer of Behringer in my city now.
>>>> I still asked because lost 130 Eur is not nice too
>>>> I want reverb unit with diffrent sound but quality similar to Paris
>>>> EDS.Particulary
>>>> interesting in big long tail verb but brighter.I dont like TC, I tryed
>
>>>> all
>>>> units (colegue is dealer of TC).I don't like TC pieces at all, sorry...
>>>> Not money for AMS...
>>>> "aaron allen" <no@spam.net> wrote:
>>>>> If you have a $130 euro to toss and you believe in their quality, go
> for
>>>> it.
>>>>> That's not a lot of dough if it comes up a winner, just make sure you
>
>>>>> can
>>>>> dump that thing on ebay/in your area and not completely lose your $$$.
>>>>>
>>>>> AA
>>>>>
>>>>> "zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>>> Opinion about bad technical quality of Behringer is myth.I have
>>>>>> Ultradyne
>>>>>> Pro many years without any troubles.Also I had few other Beringers
> like
>>>>> Ultrafex,
>>>>>> Composer, Ultramach and others now I dont't remember them all.But
>>>>>> anyway,
>>>>>> they never destroyed, I sold them in exelent condition.I heard from
>
>>>>>> other
>>>>>> peoples bad opinion about quality of made, I dont't accept.Other story
>>>> is
>>>>>> sound quality, it is allways subjective and in my opinion much of
>>>>>> Behringer
>>>>>> pieces are good or enought good for use, particulary for low price
> vs.
>>>> to
>>>>>> other company.I don't know new reverbs why I asked on this forum.Old
>
>>>>>> Virtualizer
>>>>>> 1000P dont't satisfied my ears, but few person good talk about V-Verb
>
>>>>>> 2496
>>>>>> and new Virtualizer DSP 2024P, this last one cost about 130 Eur only.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> zmora
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> I have/had a few behringer pieces ,and they all worked great. never
>
>>>>>>> had
>>>>>> any
>>>>>>> trouble. I had an edison, an ultracurve pro, and i recently grabbed
> an
>>>>>>> ultracoustic guitar amp.
>>>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:45512e45@linux...
>>>>>>>> I had a behr verb, it shot craps days outside of it's warranty. I
>
>>>>>>>> wasn't
>>>>>>>> that impressed with it to begin with, so I didn't even put up a
>>>>>>>> fight,
>>>>>>>> rather it made for a nice doorstop. Don't remember the model ( you
>
>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>> what a great impression it made here, heh. )
>>>>>>>> I have owned some pretty decent Behr stuff, but the verb was far
> from
>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> list. YMMV.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4550fa98$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>> "zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Any opinion about Behringer V-Verb Pro 9024 and Virtualizer DSP
>
>>>>>>>>>> 2024p?Apart
>>>>>>>>>> this, V-Verb Pro not for official sale in EU, only private auction
>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>> Ebay.
>>>>>>>>> If it comes with it's own fire extinguisher, it might be OK...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ...unless the fire extinguisher is a Beheringer model, too.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>
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| Re: Behringer Reverb opinion? [message #75696 is a reply to message #75693] |
Thu, 09 November 2006 05:46 |
zmora
Messages: 88
Registered: August 2005
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I use Paris, others like ProTools and thanks that not only one colour i nature
so still I have sort for choose.
John <no@no.com> wrote:
>You're all wrong. I have always thought the EDS reverb sucked. I'm on
>record for that. I will continue to support the strengths of Paris and
>point out what I don't like.
>
>zmora wrote:
>> I love Paris, John.It is still the best for me recording system.
>> Not easy, not full of magic presets but open for creative mind.
>> Version 3 improved Paris very much.To say about reverbs, I use two Room
Verbs
>> for true stereo, each one for each chanel full left and right panorama
(in
>> and out) on bus and I have wondrfull room, absoluty true stereo.Result
is
>> differet like one Room Verb in stereo mode.I like Paris compressor too.
>> Martin,my agree...
>>
>> zmora
>>
>> "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>>> John,
>>> I don't think this is the place to start dissing Paris, now that you've
>>
>>> jumped ship.
>>> --
>>> Martin Harrington
>>> www.lendanear-sound.com
>>>
>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:45527ed1$1@linux...
>>>> Who would want a reverb like a Paris EDS. eewwww
>>>>
>>>> zmora wrote:
>>>>> Unfortunately not dealer of Behringer in my city now.
>>>>> I still asked because lost 130 Eur is not nice too
>>>>> I want reverb unit with diffrent sound but quality similar to Paris
>>>>> EDS.Particulary
>>>>> interesting in big long tail verb but brighter.I dont like TC, I tryed
>>
>>>>> all
>>>>> units (colegue is dealer of TC).I don't like TC pieces at all, sorry...
>>>>> Not money for AMS...
>>>>> "aaron allen" <no@spam.net> wrote:
>>>>>> If you have a $130 euro to toss and you believe in their quality,
go
>> for
>>>>> it.
>>>>>> That's not a lot of dough if it comes up a winner, just make sure
you
>>
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> dump that thing on ebay/in your area and not completely lose your
$$$.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>>>> Opinion about bad technical quality of Behringer is myth.I have
>>>>>>> Ultradyne
>>>>>>> Pro many years without any troubles.Also I had few other Beringers
>> like
>>>>>> Ultrafex,
>>>>>>> Composer, Ultramach and others now I dont't remember them all.But
>>>>>>> anyway,
>>>>>>> they never destroyed, I sold them in exelent condition.I heard from
>>
>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>> peoples bad opinion about quality of made, I dont't accept.Other
story
>>>>> is
>>>>>>> sound quality, it is allways subjective and in my opinion much of
>>>>>>> Behringer
>>>>>>> pieces are good or enought good for use, particulary for low price
>> vs.
>>>>> to
>>>>>>> other company.I don't know new reverbs why I asked on this forum.Old
>>
>>>>>>> Virtualizer
>>>>>>> 1000P dont't satisfied my ears, but few person good talk about V-Verb
>>
>>>>>>> 2496
>>>>>>> and new Virtualizer DSP 2024P, this last one cost about 130 Eur only.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> zmora
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I have/had a few behringer pieces ,and they all worked great. never
>>
>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>> trouble. I had an edison, an ultracurve pro, and i recently grabbed
>> an
>>>>>>>> ultracoustic guitar amp.
>>>>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:45512e45@linux...
>>>>>>>>> I had a behr verb, it shot craps days outside of it's warranty.
I
>>
>>>>>>>>> wasn't
>>>>>>>>> that impressed with it to begin with, so I didn't even put up a
>>>>>>>>> fight,
>>>>>>>>> rather it made for a nice doorstop. Don't remember the model (
you
>>
>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>> what a great impression it made here, heh. )
>>>>>>>>> I have owned some pretty decent Behr stuff, but the verb was far
>> from
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> list. YMMV.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4550fa98$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>> "zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Any opinion about Behringer V-Verb Pro 9024 and Virtualizer DSP
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2024p?Apart
>>>>>>>>>>> this, V-Verb Pro not for official sale in EU, only private auction
>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>> Ebay.
>>>>>>>>>> If it comes with it's own fire extinguisher, it might be OK...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ...unless the fire extinguisher is a Beheringer model, too.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: Behringer Reverb opinion? [message #75697 is a reply to message #75696] |
Thu, 09 November 2006 05:37 |
John [1]
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hmmm, no comprende amigo. I think you mean choice is good !
zmora wrote:
> I use Paris, others like ProTools and thanks that not only one colour i nature
> so still I have sort for choose.
>
>
>
> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>> You're all wrong. I have always thought the EDS reverb sucked. I'm on
>
>> record for that. I will continue to support the strengths of Paris and
>
>> point out what I don't like.
>>
>> zmora wrote:
>>> I love Paris, John.It is still the best for me recording system.
>>> Not easy, not full of magic presets but open for creative mind.
>>> Version 3 improved Paris very much.To say about reverbs, I use two Room
> Verbs
>>> for true stereo, each one for each chanel full left and right panorama
> (in
>>> and out) on bus and I have wondrfull room, absoluty true stereo.Result
> is
>>> differet like one Room Verb in stereo mode.I like Paris compressor too.
>>> Martin,my agree...
>>>
>>> zmora
>>>
>>> "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>>>> John,
>>>> I don't think this is the place to start dissing Paris, now that you've
>>>> jumped ship.
>>>> --
>>>> Martin Harrington
>>>> www.lendanear-sound.com
>>>>
>>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:45527ed1$1@linux...
>>>>> Who would want a reverb like a Paris EDS. eewwww
>>>>>
>>>>> zmora wrote:
>>>>>> Unfortunately not dealer of Behringer in my city now.
>>>>>> I still asked because lost 130 Eur is not nice too
>>>>>> I want reverb unit with diffrent sound but quality similar to Paris
>
>>>>>> EDS.Particulary
>>>>>> interesting in big long tail verb but brighter.I dont like TC, I tryed
>>>>>> all
>>>>>> units (colegue is dealer of TC).I don't like TC pieces at all, sorry...
>>>>>> Not money for AMS...
>>>>>> "aaron allen" <no@spam.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> If you have a $130 euro to toss and you believe in their quality,
> go
>>> for
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>> That's not a lot of dough if it comes up a winner, just make sure
> you
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> dump that thing on ebay/in your area and not completely lose your
> $$$.
>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Opinion about bad technical quality of Behringer is myth.I have
>>>>>>>> Ultradyne
>>>>>>>> Pro many years without any troubles.Also I had few other Beringers
>>> like
>>>>>>> Ultrafex,
>>>>>>>> Composer, Ultramach and others now I dont't remember them all.But
>
>>>>>>>> anyway,
>>>>>>>> they never destroyed, I sold them in exelent condition.I heard from
>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>> peoples bad opinion about quality of made, I dont't accept.Other
> story
>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> sound quality, it is allways subjective and in my opinion much of
>
>>>>>>>> Behringer
>>>>>>>> pieces are good or enought good for use, particulary for low price
>>> vs.
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> other company.I don't know new reverbs why I asked on this forum.Old
>>>>>>>> Virtualizer
>>>>>>>> 1000P dont't satisfied my ears, but few person good talk about V-Verb
>>>>>>>> 2496
>>>>>>>> and new Virtualizer DSP 2024P, this last one cost about 130 Eur only.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> zmora
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I have/had a few behringer pieces ,and they all worked great. never
>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>> trouble. I had an edison, an ultracurve pro, and i recently grabbed
>>> an
>>>>>>>>> ultracoustic guitar amp.
>>>>>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:45512e45@linux...
>>>>>>>>>> I had a behr verb, it shot craps days outside of it's warranty.
> I
>>>>>>>>>> wasn't
>>>>>>>>>> that impressed with it to begin with, so I didn't even put up a
>
>>>>>>>>>> fight,
>>>>>>>>>> rather it made for a nice doorstop. Don't remember the model (
> you
>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>>> what a great impression it made here, heh. )
>>>>>>>>>> I have owned some pretty decent Behr stuff, but the verb was far
>>> from
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> list. YMMV.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4550fa98$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>> "zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Any opinion about Behringer V-Verb Pro 9024 and Virtualizer DSP
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2024p?Apart
>>>>>>>>>>>> this, V-Verb Pro not for official sale in EU, only private auction
>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ebay.
>>>>>>>>>>> If it comes with it's own fire extinguisher, it might be OK...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ...unless the fire extinguisher is a Beheringer model, too.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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Thu, 09 November 2006 06:46 |
neil[1]
Messages: 164
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"zmora" docent1912WP.PL wrote:
>
>Tom,I know I do exactly what you say and Im happy with result.
>Im looking for other reverb unit with big hall true stereo similar to Room
>Reverb with long rev time but with better tail and less ringing.Thanks
Z, least expensive way I know of to get a great reverb plugin
like what you're talking about is to buy a Lexicon Alpha (about
$125 USD), don't load the drivers, but do install the CubaseLE
software that comes with it, then look in the plugins folder &
you'll find a .dll for Lexicon Pantheon reverb. Move that file
into whatever folder you have your other VST plugins located,
de-install the CubaseLE software & now you've got a KILLER
reverb with nice rooms & halls, plus an assortment of other
things, all with very smooth tails, for a buck-and-a-quarter.
Haven't yet figured out what to do with the Alpha unit itself,
except perhaps use it as a doorstop. :)
Neil
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Thu, 09 November 2006 07:26 |
John [1]
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Pantheon rocks but I could only get it to work in Paris as a stereo
verb. As mono crashed me up.
John
Neil wrote:
> "zmora" docent1912WP.PL wrote:
>> Tom,I know I do exactly what you say and Im happy with result.
>> Im looking for other reverb unit with big hall true stereo similar to Room
>> Reverb with long rev time but with better tail and less ringing.Thanks
>
> Z, least expensive way I know of to get a great reverb plugin
> like what you're talking about is to buy a Lexicon Alpha (about
> $125 USD), don't load the drivers, but do install the CubaseLE
> software that comes with it, then look in the plugins folder &
> you'll find a .dll for Lexicon Pantheon reverb. Move that file
> into whatever folder you have your other VST plugins located,
> de-install the CubaseLE software & now you've got a KILLER
> reverb with nice rooms & halls, plus an assortment of other
> things, all with very smooth tails, for a buck-and-a-quarter.
>
> Haven't yet figured out what to do with the Alpha unit itself,
> except perhaps use it as a doorstop. :)
>
> Neil
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| Re: Behringer Reverb opinion? [message #75702 is a reply to message #75701] |
Thu, 09 November 2006 08:35 |
fernando
Messages: 15
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John, you are very angry with Paris, but you could respect that it was developed
so long ago, maybe 1996-97, I can tell you that it was amazing compare to
what was around at that time, and I mean Pro Tools, Cubase, Soanar. Last
updates 3.0 was released in 2001, probably written in 2000, so it doesn't
have the features of updated brands, we would all want those updates that
did not come for the last 5 years, so Paris is just a classic audio system
in history now. But it does real good things still, without the updates,
why would we even bother if it didn't have the unique sound / mixbus? I hope
you find what you are looking for, whichever brand you find it.
John <no@no.com> wrote:
>Pantheon rocks but I could only get it to work in Paris as a stereo
>verb. As mono crashed me up.
>John
>
>Neil wrote:
>> "zmora" docent1912WP.PL wrote:
>>> Tom,I know I do exactly what you say and Im happy with result.
>>> Im looking for other reverb unit with big hall true stereo similar to
Room
>>> Reverb with long rev time but with better tail and less ringing.Thanks
>>
>> Z, least expensive way I know of to get a great reverb plugin
>> like what you're talking about is to buy a Lexicon Alpha (about
>> $125 USD), don't load the drivers, but do install the CubaseLE
>> software that comes with it, then look in the plugins folder &
>> you'll find a .dll for Lexicon Pantheon reverb. Move that file
>> into whatever folder you have your other VST plugins located,
>> de-install the CubaseLE software & now you've got a KILLER
>> reverb with nice rooms & halls, plus an assortment of other
>> things, all with very smooth tails, for a buck-and-a-quarter.
>>
>> Haven't yet figured out what to do with the Alpha unit itself,
>> except perhaps use it as a doorstop. :)
>>
>> Neil
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| Re: Behringer Reverb opinion? [message #75705 is a reply to message #75701] |
Thu, 09 November 2006 08:45 |
Neil
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I don't know that it was ever intended for mono usage - I've
never even tried to do that because I wouldn't have any use for
a mono reverb anyway... stick it on an aux buss & use it as
a "send" (group) effect.
Neil
John <no@no.com> wrote:
>Pantheon rocks but I could only get it to work in Paris as a stereo
>verb. As mono crashed me up.
>John
>
>Neil wrote:
>> "zmora" docent1912WP.PL wrote:
>>> Tom,I know I do exactly what you say and Im happy with result.
>>> Im looking for other reverb unit with big hall true stereo similar to
Room
>>> Reverb with long rev time but with better tail and less ringing.Thanks
>>
>> Z, least expensive way I know of to get a great reverb plugin
>> like what you're talking about is to buy a Lexicon Alpha (about
>> $125 USD), don't load the drivers, but do install the CubaseLE
>> software that comes with it, then look in the plugins folder &
>> you'll find a .dll for Lexicon Pantheon reverb. Move that file
>> into whatever folder you have your other VST plugins located,
>> de-install the CubaseLE software & now you've got a KILLER
>> reverb with nice rooms & halls, plus an assortment of other
>> things, all with very smooth tails, for a buck-and-a-quarter.
>>
>> Haven't yet figured out what to do with the Alpha unit itself,
>> except perhaps use it as a doorstop. :)
>>
>> Neil
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| Re: Behringer Reverb opinion? [message #75707 is a reply to message #75705] |
Thu, 09 November 2006 08:53 |
fernando
Messages: 15
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Sorry, I'm not sure my post ended up in the best place, not really addresses
the topic of Behringer Reverb or where that went. John wants to go to what
is new, for the most features, who could blame him? That is the mission,
always.
B"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>I don't know that it was ever intended for mono usage - I've
>never even tried to do that because I wouldn't have any use for
>a mono reverb anyway... stick it on an aux buss & use it as
>a "send" (group) effect.
>
>Neil
>
>
>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>Pantheon rocks but I could only get it to work in Paris as a stereo
>>verb. As mono crashed me up.
>>John
>>
>>Neil wrote:
>>> "zmora" docent1912WP.PL wrote:
>>>> Tom,I know I do exactly what you say and Im happy with result.
>>>> Im looking for other reverb unit with big hall true stereo similar to
>Room
>>>> Reverb with long rev time but with better tail and less ringing.Thanks
>>>
>>> Z, least expensive way I know of to get a great reverb plugin
>>> like what you're talking about is to buy a Lexicon Alpha (about
>>> $125 USD), don't load the drivers, but do install the CubaseLE
>>> software that comes with it, then look in the plugins folder &
>>> you'll find a .dll for Lexicon Pantheon reverb. Move that file
>>> into whatever folder you have your other VST plugins located,
>>> de-install the CubaseLE software & now you've got a KILLER
>>> reverb with nice rooms & halls, plus an assortment of other
>>> things, all with very smooth tails, for a buck-and-a-quarter.
>>>
>>> Haven't yet figured out what to do with the Alpha unit itself,
>>> except perhaps use it as a doorstop. :)
>>>
>>> Neil
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| Re: Behringer Reverb opinion? [message #75708 is a reply to message #75705] |
Thu, 09 November 2006 08:53 |
fernando
Messages: 15
Registered: October 2006
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Sorry, I'm not sure my post ended up in the best place, not really addresses
the topic of Behringer Reverb or where that went. John wants to go to what
is new, for the most features, who could blame him? That is the mission,
always.
B"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>I don't know that it was ever intended for mono usage - I've
>never even tried to do that because I wouldn't have any use for
>a mono reverb anyway... stick it on an aux buss & use it as
>a "send" (group) effect.
>
>Neil
>
>
>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>Pantheon rocks but I could only get it to work in Paris as a stereo
>>verb. As mono crashed me up.
>>John
>>
>>Neil wrote:
>>> "zmora" docent1912WP.PL wrote:
>>>> Tom,I know I do exactly what you say and Im happy with result.
>>>> Im looking for other reverb unit with big hall true stereo similar to
>Room
>>>> Reverb with long rev time but with better tail and less ringing.Thanks
>>>
>>> Z, least expensive way I know of to get a great reverb plugin
>>> like what you're talking about is to buy a Lexicon Alpha (about
>>> $125 USD), don't load the drivers, but do install the CubaseLE
>>> software that comes with it, then look in the plugins folder &
>>> you'll find a .dll for Lexicon Pantheon reverb. Move that file
>>> into whatever folder you have your other VST plugins located,
>>> de-install the CubaseLE software & now you've got a KILLER
>>> reverb with nice rooms & halls, plus an assortment of other
>>> things, all with very smooth tails, for a buck-and-a-quarter.
>>>
>>> Haven't yet figured out what to do with the Alpha unit itself,
>>> except perhaps use it as a doorstop. :)
>>>
>>> Neil
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| Re: Behringer Reverb opinion? [message #75711 is a reply to message #75702] |
Thu, 09 November 2006 08:34 |
John [1]
Messages: 2229
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I'm not angry in any way so don't put words in my mouth. In fact you
never know, I might be back. Definitely not angry. But the EDS reverbs
suck in my opinion. That doesn't make me angry. I think Paris is
amazing really. Do you think I would maintain a web page for it if I
was truly angry? hehe
John
fernando wrote:
> John, you are very angry with Paris, but you could respect that it was developed
> so long ago, maybe 1996-97, I can tell you that it was amazing compare to
> what was around at that time, and I mean Pro Tools, Cubase, Soanar. Last
> updates 3.0 was released in 2001, probably written in 2000, so it doesn't
> have the features of updated brands, we would all want those updates that
> did not come for the last 5 years, so Paris is just a classic audio system
> in history now. But it does real good things still, without the updates,
> why would we even bother if it didn't have the unique sound / mixbus? I hope
> you find what you are looking for, whichever brand you find it.
>
> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>> Pantheon rocks but I could only get it to work in Paris as a stereo
>> verb. As mono crashed me up.
>> John
>>
>> Neil wrote:
>>> "zmora" docent1912WP.PL wrote:
>>>> Tom,I know I do exactly what you say and Im happy with result.
>>>> Im looking for other reverb unit with big hall true stereo similar to
> Room
>>>> Reverb with long rev time but with better tail and less ringing.Thanks
>>> Z, least expensive way I know of to get a great reverb plugin
>>> like what you're talking about is to buy a Lexicon Alpha (about
>>> $125 USD), don't load the drivers, but do install the CubaseLE
>>> software that comes with it, then look in the plugins folder &
>>> you'll find a .dll for Lexicon Pantheon reverb. Move that file
>>> into whatever folder you have your other VST plugins located,
>>> de-install the CubaseLE software & now you've got a KILLER
>>> reverb with nice rooms & halls, plus an assortment of other
>>> things, all with very smooth tails, for a buck-and-a-quarter.
>>>
>>> Haven't yet figured out what to do with the Alpha unit itself,
>>> except perhaps use it as a doorstop. :)
>>>
>>> Neil
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| Re: Behringer Reverb opinion? [message #75713 is a reply to message #75705] |
Thu, 09 November 2006 08:35 |
John [1]
Messages: 2229
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kewl, I still use pantheon regularly because it sounds so good and is
very easy to config. It was just a heads up on the mono thingy in Paris.
John
Neil wrote:
> I don't know that it was ever intended for mono usage - I've
> never even tried to do that because I wouldn't have any use for
> a mono reverb anyway... stick it on an aux buss & use it as
> a "send" (group) effect.
>
> Neil
>
>
> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>> Pantheon rocks but I could only get it to work in Paris as a stereo
>> verb. As mono crashed me up.
>> John
>>
>> Neil wrote:
>>> "zmora" docent1912WP.PL wrote:
>>>> Tom,I know I do exactly what you say and Im happy with result.
>>>> Im looking for other reverb unit with big hall true stereo similar to
> Room
>>>> Reverb with long rev time but with better tail and less ringing.Thanks
>>> Z, least expensive way I know of to get a great reverb plugin
>>> like what you're talking about is to buy a Lexicon Alpha (about
>>> $125 USD), don't load the drivers, but do install the CubaseLE
>>> software that comes with it, then look in the plugins folder &
>>> you'll find a .dll for Lexicon Pantheon reverb. Move that file
>>> into whatever folder you have your other VST plugins located,
>>> de-install the CubaseLE software & now you've got a KILLER
>>> reverb with nice rooms & halls, plus an assortment of other
>>> things, all with very smooth tails, for a buck-and-a-quarter.
>>>
>>> Haven't yet figured out what to do with the Alpha unit itself,
>>> except perhaps use it as a doorstop. :)
>>>
>>> Neil
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| Re: Behringer Reverb opinion? [message #75717 is a reply to message #75698] |
Thu, 09 November 2006 10:02 |
zmora
Messages: 88
Registered: August 2005
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Working it on old Athlon and OS WinME?
"Neil" <IOUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>"zmora" docent1912WP.PL wrote:
>>
>>Tom,I know I do exactly what you say and Im happy with result.
>>Im looking for other reverb unit with big hall true stereo similar to Room
>>Reverb with long rev time but with better tail and less ringing.Thanks
>
>Z, least expensive way I know of to get a great reverb plugin
>like what you're talking about is to buy a Lexicon Alpha (about
>$125 USD), don't load the drivers, but do install the CubaseLE
>software that comes with it, then look in the plugins folder &
>you'll find a .dll for Lexicon Pantheon reverb. Move that file
>into whatever folder you have your other VST plugins located,
>de-install the CubaseLE software & now you've got a KILLER
>reverb with nice rooms & halls, plus an assortment of other
>things, all with very smooth tails, for a buck-and-a-quarter.
>
>Haven't yet figured out what to do with the Alpha unit itself,
>except perhaps use it as a doorstop. :)
>
>Neil
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| Re: Behringer Reverb opinion? [message #75749 is a reply to message #75717] |
Thu, 09 November 2006 16:16 |
zmora
Messages: 88
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O.K I heard Pantheon from this web
http://www.e-muzyk.pl/muzyk/servlet/Index?column=75&page _column=0&article=755&page_article=1
no bad at all.
Thanks for all advises
zmora
"zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
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>Working it on old Athlon and OS WinME?
>
>
>"Neil" <IOUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>
>>"zmora" docent1912WP.PL wrote:
>>>
>>>Tom,I know I do exactly what you say and Im happy with result.
>>>Im looking for other reverb unit with big hall true stereo similar to
Room
>>>Reverb with long rev time but with better tail and less ringing.Thanks
>>
>>Z, least expensive way I know of to get a great reverb plugin
>>like what you're talking about is to buy a Lexicon Alpha (about
>>$125 USD), don't load the drivers, but do install the CubaseLE
>>software that comes with it, then look in the plugins folder &
>>you'll find a .dll for Lexicon Pantheon reverb. Move that file
>>into whatever folder you have your other VST plugins located,
>>de-install the CubaseLE software & now you've got a KILLER
>>reverb with nice rooms & halls, plus an assortment of other
>>things, all with very smooth tails, for a buck-and-a-quarter.
>>
>>Haven't yet figured out what to do with the Alpha unit itself,
>>except perhaps use it as a doorstop. :)
>>
>>Neil
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| Re: Behringer Reverb opinion? [message #75949 is a reply to message #75926] |
Mon, 13 November 2006 14:04 |
erlilo
Messages: 405
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I don't think you can go wrong with V-Verb 2496. For me, it's very useful
with Paris. I have DSP2024P too but it's a lower quality in my ears, so I
don't use it at all.
If you're looking at Behringer's website and look at "Support", I think you
can find a Behringer dealer near you in an EU town.
Good luck
Erling
"zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> skrev i melding news:45587baf$1@linux...
>
> Thanks Erlio.Is it usefull verb with Paris?Is it different kind of reverb
> vs.EDS reverb but none-lower quality?
> Look at Behringer web for price, you'll reconised that it not for sale in
> EU.I mean about V-Verb 2496.
> I agree about "myth of bad quality".
>
>
> "erlilo" <erlilo@nospamonline.no> wrote:
>>For the price, you can't get any better. Is it not for official sale in
>
>>EU???? I buyed mine official in Cobenhagen the first year it came out and
> am
>>using it daily, together with Paris. I am using "oceans" of Behringer
>>products here and have used them for years without any problems at all,
> so
>>the myth about how bad Behringer products are is just a myth for me, but
> not
>>for Deej;-) I see the shops are selling it official in Cobenhagen.
>>
>>Erlilo
>>
>>"zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> skrev i melding news:4550ec5f$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Any opinion about Behringer V-Verb Pro 9024 and Virtualizer DSP
>>> 2024p?Apart
>>> this, V-Verb Pro not for official sale in EU, only private auction on
>
>>> Ebay.
>>
>>
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| Re: Behringer Reverb opinion? [message #75958 is a reply to message #75949] |
Mon, 13 November 2006 20:33 |
zmora
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"erlilo" <erlilo@nospamonline.no> wrote:
>I don't think you can go wrong with V-Verb 2496. For me, it's very useful
>with Paris. I have DSP2024P too but it's a lower quality in my ears, so
I
>don't use it at all.
>If you're looking at Behringer's website and look at "Support", I think
you
Once again thanks
zmora
>can find a Behringer dealer near you in an EU town.
>
>Good luck
>
>Erling
>
>"zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> skrev i melding news:45587baf$1@linux...
>>
>> Thanks Erlio.Is it usefull verb with Paris?Is it different kind of reverb
>> vs.EDS reverb but none-lower quality?
>> Look at Behringer web for price, you'll reconised that it not for sale
in
>> EU.I mean about V-Verb 2496.
>> I agree about "myth of bad quality".
>>
>>
>> "erlilo" <erlilo@nospamonline.no> wrote:
>>>For the price, you can't get any better. Is it not for official sale in
>>
>>>EU???? I buyed mine official in Cobenhagen the first year it came out
and
>> am
>>>using it daily, together with Paris. I am using "oceans" of Behringer
>>>products here and have used them for years without any problems at all,
>> so
>>>the myth about how bad Behringer products are is just a myth for me, but
>> not
>>>for Deej;-) I see the shops are selling it official in Cobenhagen.
>>>
>>>Erlilo
>>>
>>>"zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> skrev i melding news:4550ec5f$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Any opinion about Behringer V-Verb Pro 9024 and Virtualizer DSP
>>>> 2024p?Apart
>>>> this, V-Verb Pro not for official sale in EU, only private auction on
>>
>>>> Ebay.
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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