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When.if you guys get ready to make the switch...... [message #93225] Fri, 30 November 2007 23:03 Go to next message
DJ is currently offline  DJ   FRANCE
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Registered: July 2005
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Now that I've got my head wrapped around Totalmix (a big deal), I'm really
getting some pretty major satisfaction out of Cubase SX. Everything just
works and no matter how outside the box and "unnatural" I get with this, it
just sorta' sits back, gives me a smartass look and says "c'mon
asshole....is that all you've got?" Get yourself a MADI card if you want a
lot of I/O. I'm using a MADI, a Multiface and an AES32 and I've never been
happier......really. It's a downright enjoyable experience sitting down to
mix.My heart is no longer in my throat every time I boot up wondering if
some workaround I've had to employ is going to take the system down or
something.

The sheer functionality and flexibility of this program is such a breath of
fresh air and I think it sounds very very good. I'm not even using my tape
emulator a lot of the time now. You just have to learn how to gainstage it.
Paris will spoil you in this respect. We all know that, but it's not that
hard to get some major "PHAT" out of Cubase and the tools available to do
that and the way they can be implemented is like a dream come true. Things
like clicking on an external processor and having the program automatically
calculate and compensate for the latency is something I doubt I'll ever take
for granted. You do need an external mixer of some sort for real time
monitoring if you're using more than one RME audio card, but other than
that, it's sweet....and easy..........and fast......and powerful........and
stable.....blah blah........

I'm not trying to slag the Paris system. I'm still amazed by how ahead of
it's time it still is, but I can definitely recommend Cubase 4 with the
right hardware. Chris Ludwig really was a godsend when I was working out my
componentry/compaibility situation and what I've got here is more stable
than my Paris rig ever was.

Deej
Re: When.if you guys get ready to make the switch...... [message #93232 is a reply to message #93225] Sat, 01 December 2007 06:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]
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c'mon asshole....is that all you've got?

That's what cubase tells me everyday. And now I have these KRK rp5's saying
the same thing !

Damn that Chris Ludwig !
Re: When.if you guys get ready to make the switch...... [message #93234 is a reply to message #93232] Sat, 01 December 2007 05:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
AlexPlasko is currently offline  AlexPlasko   UNITED STATES
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Ludwig truly is a great guy. I really enjoyed hanging around when he was at
ECMM.he was always there to help.can you feel the love Chris?
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4751600e$1@linux...
>
> c'mon asshole....is that all you've got?
>
> That's what cubase tells me everyday. And now I have these KRK rp5's
> saying
> the same thing !
>
> Damn that Chris Ludwig !
Re: When.if you guys get ready to make the switch...... [message #93236 is a reply to message #93234] Sat, 01 December 2007 07:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Ludwig is currently offline  Chris Ludwig   UNITED STATES
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blush

alex plasko wrote:
> Ludwig truly is a great guy. I really enjoyed hanging around when he was at
> ECMM.he was always there to help.can you feel the love Chris?
> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4751600e$1@linux...
>
>> c'mon asshole....is that all you've got?
>>
>> That's what cubase tells me everyday. And now I have these KRK rp5's
>> saying
>> the same thing !
>>
>> Damn that Chris Ludwig !
>>
>
>
>

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Re: When.if you guys get ready to make the switch...... [message #93240 is a reply to message #93225] Sat, 01 December 2007 13:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Robert is currently offline  Robert   CANADA
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Hey DJ, are you using a controller?


"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message
news:47510864@linux...
> Now that I've got my head wrapped around Totalmix (a big deal), I'm really
> getting some pretty major satisfaction out of Cubase SX. Everything just
> works and no matter how outside the box and "unnatural" I get with this,
> it just sorta' sits back, gives me a smartass look and says "c'mon
> asshole....is that all you've got?" Get yourself a MADI card if you want
> a lot of I/O. I'm using a MADI, a Multiface and an AES32 and I've never
> been happier......really. It's a downright enjoyable experience sitting
> down to mix.My heart is no longer in my throat every time I boot up
> wondering if some workaround I've had to employ is going to take the
> system down or something.
>
> The sheer functionality and flexibility of this program is such a breath
> of fresh air and I think it sounds very very good. I'm not even using my
> tape emulator a lot of the time now. You just have to learn how to
> gainstage it. Paris will spoil you in this respect. We all know that, but
> it's not that hard to get some major "PHAT" out of Cubase and the tools
> available to do that and the way they can be implemented is like a dream
> come true. Things like clicking on an external processor and having the
> program automatically calculate and compensate for the latency is
> something I doubt I'll ever take for granted. You do need an external
> mixer of some sort for real time monitoring if you're using more than one
> RME audio card, but other than that, it's sweet....and easy..........and
> fast......and powerful........and stable.....blah blah........
>
> I'm not trying to slag the Paris system. I'm still amazed by how ahead of
> it's time it still is, but I can definitely recommend Cubase 4 with the
> right hardware. Chris Ludwig really was a godsend when I was working out
> my componentry/compaibility situation and what I've got here is more
> stable than my Paris rig ever was.
>
> Deej
>
>
>
>
>
>
Re: When.if you guys get ready to make the switch...... [message #93241 is a reply to message #93240] Sat, 01 December 2007 12:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DJ is currently offline  DJ   FRANCE
Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005
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Steinberg Houston interfaced via midi. Works great for Cubase. won't work
with any other app. I've also got a Frontier Alphatrack interfacing with my
slave computer. It's very cool as well.

Deej



"Rob Arsenault" <mani1147athotmaildotcom> wrote in message
news:4751c295$1@linux...
> Hey DJ, are you using a controller?
>
>
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message
> news:47510864@linux...
>> Now that I've got my head wrapped around Totalmix (a big deal), I'm
>> really getting some pretty major satisfaction out of Cubase SX.
>> Everything just works and no matter how outside the box and "unnatural" I
>> get with this, it just sorta' sits back, gives me a smartass look and
>> says "c'mon asshole....is that all you've got?" Get yourself a MADI card
>> if you want a lot of I/O. I'm using a MADI, a Multiface and an AES32 and
>> I've never been happier......really. It's a downright enjoyable
>> experience sitting down to mix.My heart is no longer in my throat every
>> time I boot up wondering if some workaround I've had to employ is going
>> to take the system down or something.
>>
>> The sheer functionality and flexibility of this program is such a breath
>> of fresh air and I think it sounds very very good. I'm not even using my
>> tape emulator a lot of the time now. You just have to learn how to
>> gainstage it. Paris will spoil you in this respect. We all know that, but
>> it's not that hard to get some major "PHAT" out of Cubase and the tools
>> available to do that and the way they can be implemented is like a dream
>> come true. Things like clicking on an external processor and having the
>> program automatically calculate and compensate for the latency is
>> something I doubt I'll ever take for granted. You do need an external
>> mixer of some sort for real time monitoring if you're using more than one
>> RME audio card, but other than that, it's sweet....and easy..........and
>> fast......and powerful........and stable.....blah blah........
>>
>> I'm not trying to slag the Paris system. I'm still amazed by how ahead of
>> it's time it still is, but I can definitely recommend Cubase 4 with the
>> right hardware. Chris Ludwig really was a godsend when I was working out
>> my componentry/compaibility situation and what I've got here is more
>> stable than my Paris rig ever was.
>>
>> Deej
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: When.if you guys get ready to make the switch...... [message #93254 is a reply to message #93225] Sun, 02 December 2007 01:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LaMont is currently offline  LaMont
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Registered: October 2005
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DJ, I don't not being hard to get some Phatt ou of the Steingbergs (C4 & Nuendo).
It's way harder than say Paris & ProTools. Those 2 babies mix themselves.


Most of 06 and 07 I tracked and mixed in Nuendo or Pro Tools, summing out
to a Analog mixer (SoundCraft Ghost). While this a nice setup, Paris spoiled
me into having a dedicated DAW controller. So, for 08 my partner and I will
be looking into

-Tascam DM4800
-Digidesign C24(new)
-New Euphonix (new for 08).
I will be getting back to Paris in 08..I miss the sound. And, I will polish
up and really master Slow-Tools.


"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>Now that I've got my head wrapped around Totalmix (a big deal), I'm really

>getting some pretty major satisfaction out of Cubase SX. Everything just

>works and no matter how outside the box and "unnatural" I get with this,
it
>just sorta' sits back, gives me a smartass look and says "c'mon
>asshole....is that all you've got?" Get yourself a MADI card if you want
a
>lot of I/O. I'm using a MADI, a Multiface and an AES32 and I've never been

>happier......really. It's a downright enjoyable experience sitting down
to
>mix.My heart is no longer in my throat every time I boot up wondering if

>some workaround I've had to employ is going to take the system down or
>something.
>
>The sheer functionality and flexibility of this program is such a breath
of
>fresh air and I think it sounds very very good. I'm not even using my tape

>emulator a lot of the time now. You just have to learn how to gainstage
it.
>Paris will spoil you in this respect. We all know that, but it's not that

>hard to get some major "PHAT" out of Cubase and the tools available to do

>that and the way they can be implemented is like a dream come true. Things

>like clicking on an external processor and having the program automatically

>calculate and compensate for the latency is something I doubt I'll ever
take
>for granted. You do need an external mixer of some sort for real time
>monitoring if you're using more than one RME audio card, but other than

>that, it's sweet....and easy..........and fast......and powerful........and

>stable.....blah blah........
>
>I'm not trying to slag the Paris system. I'm still amazed by how ahead of

>it's time it still is, but I can definitely recommend Cubase 4 with the

>right hardware. Chris Ludwig really was a godsend when I was working out
my
>componentry/compaibility situation and what I've got here is more stable

>than my Paris rig ever was.
>
>Deej
>
>
>
>
>
>
Re: When.if you guys get ready to make the switch...... [message #93265 is a reply to message #93254] Sun, 02 December 2007 11:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TCB is currently offline  TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
Senior Member
Hey LaMont,

Is there any real info about this stealth Euphonix product? Are you talking
about something they've officially announced or something they are going
to announce. There was the massive buzz and then . . . nothing. If it were
a 'C24 for native apps' I'd be all over it like stink on fish.

Just wondering if there's more info out there,

TCB

"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>DJ, I don't not being hard to get some Phatt ou of the Steingbergs (C4 &
Nuendo).
>It's way harder than say Paris & ProTools. Those 2 babies mix themselves.
>
>
>Most of 06 and 07 I tracked and mixed in Nuendo or Pro Tools, summing out
>to a Analog mixer (SoundCraft Ghost). While this a nice setup, Paris spoiled
>me into having a dedicated DAW controller. So, for 08 my partner and I will
>be looking into
>
>-Tascam DM4800
>-Digidesign C24(new)
>-New Euphonix (new for 08).
>I will be getting back to Paris in 08..I miss the sound. And, I will polish
>up and really master Slow-Tools.
>
>
>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>Now that I've got my head wrapped around Totalmix (a big deal), I'm really
>
>>getting some pretty major satisfaction out of Cubase SX. Everything just
>
>>works and no matter how outside the box and "unnatural" I get with this,
>it
>>just sorta' sits back, gives me a smartass look and says "c'mon
>>asshole....is that all you've got?" Get yourself a MADI card if you want
>a
>>lot of I/O. I'm using a MADI, a Multiface and an AES32 and I've never been
>
>>happier......really. It's a downright enjoyable experience sitting down
>to
>>mix.My heart is no longer in my throat every time I boot up wondering if
>
>>some workaround I've had to employ is going to take the system down or

>>something.
>>
>>The sheer functionality and flexibility of this program is such a breath
>of
>>fresh air and I think it sounds very very good. I'm not even using my tape
>
>>emulator a lot of the time now. You just have to learn how to gainstage
>it.
>>Paris will spoil you in this respect. We all know that, but it's not that
>
>>hard to get some major "PHAT" out of Cubase and the tools available to
do
>
>>that and the way they can be implemented is like a dream come true. Things
>
>>like clicking on an external processor and having the program automatically
>
>>calculate and compensate for the latency is something I doubt I'll ever
>take
>>for granted. You do need an external mixer of some sort for real time
>>monitoring if you're using more than one RME audio card, but other than
>
>>that, it's sweet....and easy..........and fast......and powerful........and
>
>>stable.....blah blah........
>>
>>I'm not trying to slag the Paris system. I'm still amazed by how ahead
of
>
>>it's time it still is, but I can definitely recommend Cubase 4 with the
>
>>right hardware. Chris Ludwig really was a godsend when I was working out
>my
>>componentry/compaibility situation and what I've got here is more stable
>
>>than my Paris rig ever was.
>>
>>Deej
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
Re: When.if you guys get ready to make the switch...... [message #93272 is a reply to message #93225] Sun, 02 December 2007 14:50 Go to previous message
Cujjo is currently offline  Cujjo   
Messages: 325
Registered: June 2007
Senior Member
How is it for tracking?

"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>Now that I've got my head wrapped around Totalmix (a big deal), I'm really

>getting some pretty major satisfaction out of Cubase SX. Everything just

>works and no matter how outside the box and "unnatural" I get with this,
it
>just sorta' sits back, gives me a smartass look and says "c'mon
>asshole....is that all you've got?" Get yourself a MADI card if you want
a
>lot of I/O. I'm using a MADI, a Multiface and an AES32 and I've never been

>happier......really. It's a downright enjoyable experience sitting down
to
>mix.My heart is no longer in my throat every time I boot up wondering if

>some workaround I've had to employ is going to take the system down or
>something.
>
>The sheer functionality and flexibility of this program is such a breath
of
>fresh air and I think it sounds very very good. I'm not even using my tape

>emulator a lot of the time now. You just have to learn how to gainstage
it.
>Paris will spoil you in this respect. We all know that, but it's not that

>hard to get some major "PHAT" out of Cubase and the tools available to do

>that and the way they can be implemented is like a dream come true. Things

>like clicking on an external processor and having the program automatically

>calculate and compensate for the latency is something I doubt I'll ever
take
>for granted. You do need an external mixer of some sort for real time
>monitoring if you're using more than one RME audio card, but other than

>that, it's sweet....and easy..........and fast......and powerful........and

>stable.....blah blah........
>
>I'm not trying to slag the Paris system. I'm still amazed by how ahead of

>it's time it still is, but I can definitely recommend Cubase 4 with the

>right hardware. Chris Ludwig really was a godsend when I was working out
my
>componentry/compaibility situation and what I've got here is more stable

>than my Paris rig ever was.
>
>Deej
>
>
>
>
>
>
Re: When.if you guys get ready to make the switch...... [message #93275 is a reply to message #93272] Sun, 02 December 2007 14:25 Go to previous message
DJ is currently offline  DJ   FRANCE
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Registered: July 2005
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"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote in message news:475328a3$1@linux...
>
>
> How is it for tracking?

That's the only potential rub, IMO, but it's not insurmountable. Using the
RME Totalmix allows very flexible cue mix options. It's just a diffrerent
way of working. If you want to use the Cubase Control Coom function, you
will need a computer and drivers capable of operating at very low latencies,
but those are available now as well.

For a cue system, I'm using a Furman HDS-16 system with 5 x HRM-16 remote
mixers here for zero latency monitoring in the tracking area. I also use an
external analog mixer in the control room. for zero latency monitoring of
the summing of the outputs RME HDSP cards during tracking sessions. I just
patch the headphone outs to a Mackie MixerMixer and sum these to a stereo
pair of line ins of a 1402 and then mute these and send them via Alt 3-4 to
the stereo mix inputs of the HDS-16 with the mains sent to a Coleman switch
box which is feeding my studio monitors. At that point I've got the zero
latency functionality of Paris.

You don't necessarily need to jump through all the hoops I'm doing here.
I've got a 3 x card system in one computer and then a second computer with
another 26 I/O feeding the first computer. If you were running a single card
system with a headphone output, you'd have it made.

I think John probably has a very slick HDSP 9652 based system. Neil is using
the Multiface as his primary I/O. If I were using that card for my main DAW,
I'd be looking hard at the respective kinds of setups they are using.

Deej
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