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| Re: Another Mac post..hey James........ [message #81925 is a reply to message #81895] |
Wed, 21 March 2007 19:57   |
Steve Helm
Messages: 37
Registered: April 2006
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Thought you might want to consider my latest Mac techno-playground. OS-X is
great, but the Macbook Pro can do so much more.
I've now got my Macbook Pro (Intel) running XP, Vista and Ubuntu Ultimate
Edition Linux (desktop and server) simultaneously inside Mac OS-X using Parallels
(VM).
The cool thing is that the latest release of Parallels has a feature called
"Coherence" that allows XP or Vista apps to run side by side with the Mac
apps as if they were actually in OS-X (but they are running XP.) One can
drag and drop folders and files between OSs, as well as copy/cut and paste
between OSs. Outrageously cool!
One can also run the VM OSs full screen at full res. So it looks and acts
just like a (gasp) PC. Very very cool to have all that on one laptop, plus
full net access, USB, DVD/CD, etc. Each VM OS can be independently started,
stopped and PAUSED. So no more waiting for slow boots and shutting down.
Just pause the OS until you need it.
http://www.parallels.com/
The only hitches are 1) Microsoft will only allow certain Vista versions
to be installed in VM and
2) the glitzy Aero graphics in Vista isn't supported by Parallels yet. I'm
sure they'll add support for that as well as Ubuntu Beryl's GL magic. If
you haven't seen that search Youtube for a Beryl vs Vista comparison video.
Cheers!
Steve
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>We have been going back and forth on a number of threads about Mac vs PC(as
>usual). I have been looking at some of my posts to you and they definitely
>appear to be a bit hostile and disrespectful in hindsight. It's no secret
>that we prefer different platforms for different reasons, but I want you
to
>know that for the most part, my tongue has been planted firmly in cheek
when
>making these posts with the assumption that yours has been too. The last
few
>posts you've made seemed to me to sound pretty aggravated and the last few
>posts I've made did too. I'm sorry I provoked this. I sometimes with we
had
>emoticons here that would lend some nuance to our postings. I can assure
you
>that I haven't ruled out Mac as a possible platform for me in the future
and
>a goodly part of the reason for this because of you, Jaimie, Gene and others
>here who use Macs. I sincerely respect all of your opinions/choices but
my
>posts sure haven't reflected this. I do prefer the PC right now, but things
>are always subject to change and I want you to know that I respect (all
of)
>your "Macness" and appreciate your posts pointing out the cool things this
>system can achieve.
>
>...in all seriousness,
>
>;o)
>
>Deej
>
>
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| Re: Another Mac post..hey James........ [message #81928 is a reply to message #81925] |
Wed, 21 March 2007 20:09 |
chuck duffy
Messages: 453
Registered: July 2005
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Steve,
Another great post.
VMS are the BOMB! no matter what platform you are on.
My development environment is 100% VM now. Visual studio, outlook, office,
openoffice, everything runs in a 100% self contained VM. The only thing I
leave for the real machine is the stuff that needs direct hardware access.
The fun part is that I also now have a commodore 64 virtual machine with
my favorite carts from 1983! (thanks to openDos and VICE running in a VM)
I have VMS for XP, Windows Server 2003, 2000, NT 3.51, 4.0 and whatever the
heck else I need. I will never, ever install a piece of software to the
physical machine again, unless it needs direct hardware access.
Chuck
"Steve Helm" <shelm@radford.edu> wrote:
>
>Thought you might want to consider my latest Mac techno-playground. OS-X
is
>great, but the Macbook Pro can do so much more.
>
>I've now got my Macbook Pro (Intel) running XP, Vista and Ubuntu Ultimate
>Edition Linux (desktop and server) simultaneously inside Mac OS-X using
Parallels
>(VM).
>
>The cool thing is that the latest release of Parallels has a feature called
>"Coherence" that allows XP or Vista apps to run side by side with the Mac
>apps as if they were actually in OS-X (but they are running XP.) One can
>drag and drop folders and files between OSs, as well as copy/cut and paste
>between OSs. Outrageously cool!
>
>One can also run the VM OSs full screen at full res. So it looks and acts
>just like a (gasp) PC. Very very cool to have all that on one laptop, plus
>full net access, USB, DVD/CD, etc. Each VM OS can be independently started,
>stopped and PAUSED. So no more waiting for slow boots and shutting down.
>Just pause the OS until you need it.
>
>http://www.parallels.com/
>
>The only hitches are 1) Microsoft will only allow certain Vista versions
>to be installed in VM and
>2) the glitzy Aero graphics in Vista isn't supported by Parallels yet. I'm
>sure they'll add support for that as well as Ubuntu Beryl's GL magic. If
>you haven't seen that search Youtube for a Beryl vs Vista comparison video.
>
>Cheers!
>Steve
>
>
>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>We have been going back and forth on a number of threads about Mac vs PC(as
>
>>usual). I have been looking at some of my posts to you and they definitely
>
>>appear to be a bit hostile and disrespectful in hindsight. It's no secret
>
>>that we prefer different platforms for different reasons, but I want you
>to
>>know that for the most part, my tongue has been planted firmly in cheek
>when
>>making these posts with the assumption that yours has been too. The last
>few
>>posts you've made seemed to me to sound pretty aggravated and the last
few
>
>>posts I've made did too. I'm sorry I provoked this. I sometimes with we
>had
>>emoticons here that would lend some nuance to our postings. I can assure
>you
>>that I haven't ruled out Mac as a possible platform for me in the future
>and
>>a goodly part of the reason for this because of you, Jaimie, Gene and others
>
>>here who use Macs. I sincerely respect all of your opinions/choices but
>my
>>posts sure haven't reflected this. I do prefer the PC right now, but things
>
>>are always subject to change and I want you to know that I respect (all
>of)
>>your "Macness" and appreciate your posts pointing out the cool things this
>
>>system can achieve.
>>
>>...in all seriousness,
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>Deej
>>
>>
>
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| Re: Another Mac post..hey James........ [message #81929 is a reply to message #81911] |
Wed, 21 March 2007 20:11 |
chuck duffy
Messages: 453
Registered: July 2005
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Senior Member |
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I'm officially platform agnostic now that I have VMs of at least 5 linux distros,
and can try anything I want at the drop of a hat at the expense of disk space,
and no risk to my physical machine.
The only thing I can't get, that I want is OSX running in a VM
Chuck
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
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>Coughcoughcough DEBIAN cough cough . . .
>
>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>We have been going back and forth on a number of threads about Mac vs PC(as
>
>>usual). I have been looking at some of my posts to you and they definitely
>
>>appear to be a bit hostile and disrespectful in hindsight. It's no secret
>
>>that we prefer different platforms for different reasons, but I want you
>to
>>know that for the most part, my tongue has been planted firmly in cheek
>when
>>making these posts with the assumption that yours has been too. The last
>few
>>posts you've made seemed to me to sound pretty aggravated and the last
few
>
>>posts I've made did too. I'm sorry I provoked this. I sometimes with we
>had
>>emoticons here that would lend some nuance to our postings. I can assure
>you
>>that I haven't ruled out Mac as a possible platform for me in the future
>and
>>a goodly part of the reason for this because of you, Jaimie, Gene and others
>
>>here who use Macs. I sincerely respect all of your opinions/choices but
>my
>>posts sure haven't reflected this. I do prefer the PC right now, but things
>
>>are always subject to change and I want you to know that I respect (all
>of)
>>your "Macness" and appreciate your posts pointing out the cool things this
>
>>system can achieve.
>>
>>...in all seriousness,
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>Deej
>>
>>
>
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| Re: Another Mac post..hey James........ [message #81931 is a reply to message #81925] |
Wed, 21 March 2007 20:38 |
duncan
Messages: 123
Registered: November 2006
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Senior Member |
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Hey Steve and Chuck --
You guys are the uber-geeks, for sure -- this is soooo over my head,
it ain't funny...
And yet... I'm intrigued enough to check out this "parallels" link,
and look forward to soon becoming profoundly confused (in my spare
time, of course...).
-- thanks, I think -- Chas.
On 22 Mar 2007 12:57:46 +1000, "Steve Helm" <shelm@radford.edu> wrote:
>
>Thought you might want to consider my latest Mac techno-playground. OS-X is
>great, but the Macbook Pro can do so much more.
>
>I've now got my Macbook Pro (Intel) running XP, Vista and Ubuntu Ultimate
>Edition Linux (desktop and server) simultaneously inside Mac OS-X using Parallels
>(VM).
>
>The cool thing is that the latest release of Parallels has a feature called
>"Coherence" that allows XP or Vista apps to run side by side with the Mac
>apps as if they were actually in OS-X (but they are running XP.) One can
>drag and drop folders and files between OSs, as well as copy/cut and paste
>between OSs. Outrageously cool!
>
>One can also run the VM OSs full screen at full res. So it looks and acts
>just like a (gasp) PC. Very very cool to have all that on one laptop, plus
>full net access, USB, DVD/CD, etc. Each VM OS can be independently started,
>stopped and PAUSED. So no more waiting for slow boots and shutting down.
>Just pause the OS until you need it.
>
>http://www.parallels.com/
>
>The only hitches are 1) Microsoft will only allow certain Vista versions
>to be installed in VM and
>2) the glitzy Aero graphics in Vista isn't supported by Parallels yet. I'm
>sure they'll add support for that as well as Ubuntu Beryl's GL magic. If
>you haven't seen that search Youtube for a Beryl vs Vista comparison video.
>
>Cheers!
>Steve
>
>
>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>We have been going back and forth on a number of threads about Mac vs PC(as
>
>>usual). I have been looking at some of my posts to you and they definitely
>
>>appear to be a bit hostile and disrespectful in hindsight. It's no secret
>
>>that we prefer different platforms for different reasons, but I want you
>to
>>know that for the most part, my tongue has been planted firmly in cheek
>when
>>making these posts with the assumption that yours has been too. The last
>few
>>posts you've made seemed to me to sound pretty aggravated and the last few
>
>>posts I've made did too. I'm sorry I provoked this. I sometimes with we
>had
>>emoticons here that would lend some nuance to our postings. I can assure
>you
>>that I haven't ruled out Mac as a possible platform for me in the future
>and
>>a goodly part of the reason for this because of you, Jaimie, Gene and others
>
>>here who use Macs. I sincerely respect all of your opinions/choices but
>my
>>posts sure haven't reflected this. I do prefer the PC right now, but things
>
>>are always subject to change and I want you to know that I respect (all
>of)
>>your "Macness" and appreciate your posts pointing out the cool things this
>
>>system can achieve.
>>
>>...in all seriousness,
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>Deej
>>
>>
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