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| Re: Guerilla mixing [message #65251 is a reply to message #65240] |
Wed, 08 March 2006 08:54   |
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Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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Thanks guys. This is really my first commercial project. I'm done lots of
demo work, some of which were pretty big projects (ie, high track counts)
but never anything quite like this. The level of musicianship, for the most
part is excellent and it's been a real learning experience. In hindsight,
there are still things I would do differently, but overall, I'm happy with
the results I'm getting. The biggest payoff in this whole thing is that I've
been working such long hours and so consistently at this that I've got my
ears right with the room/reference monitors ( thanks to DC and RZ for giving
me a little time on their systems for a reality check last week) and my
mixes are translating well. I was mixing until 2:00 AM today. When I went to
bed, I figured I would wake up, listen to the mix again and find it out of
balance due to ear fatigue. The mix actually sounds better to me this
morning than it did last night. The NHT A-20 monitors/B-20 subwoofers really
are nice once they are properly dialed in and the subwoofers are in phase(
thanks again to DC for his help with this). Mixing for long periosds of time
isn't fatiguing. I've been averaging 8-10 hours a day.
Deej
"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:440ee3ac@linux...
> Standing O DJ. From reading your posts over the years it seems like
you're
> where you want to be. Heres to dreams, vision and persistance :-)
> Great good luck with this project.
> MR
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:440e9b94@linux...
> > CD release party is Friday. 12 song project. I've got 10 songs mixed and
8
> > mastered (well.....what passes for mastering around here). This has been
> > stressful, but I may just get this done by Friday. We'll be burning CD's
> all
> > day Friday.
> >
> >
> > Man, I'm exhausted. I wish I had about a month to walk away from this
> before
> > mastering it. So much for the *perfect world*. As soon as I get a song
> > mastered, it gets grabbed and sent to some radio station or another for
> > airplay and promo for the CD release party. I'm sweating bullets about
> this
> > but I guess the stuff is radio ready.Everyone seems to like it and I
> haven't
> > seen any lynch mobs headed my way........yet.
> >
> > So far so good.
> >
> > ;o}
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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| Re: Guerilla mixing [message #65253 is a reply to message #65251] |
Wed, 08 March 2006 10:09 |
RZ
Messages: 61
Registered: July 2005
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A little anxiety is not a bad thing. It beats over-confidence any day of
the week.
RZ
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:440f0d62@linux...
> Thanks guys. This is really my first commercial project. I'm done lots of
> demo work, some of which were pretty big projects (ie, high track counts)
> but never anything quite like this. The level of musicianship, for the
> most
> part is excellent and it's been a real learning experience. In hindsight,
> there are still things I would do differently, but overall, I'm happy with
> the results I'm getting. The biggest payoff in this whole thing is that
> I've
> been working such long hours and so consistently at this that I've got my
> ears right with the room/reference monitors ( thanks to DC and RZ for
> giving
> me a little time on their systems for a reality check last week) and my
> mixes are translating well. I was mixing until 2:00 AM today. When I went
> to
> bed, I figured I would wake up, listen to the mix again and find it out of
> balance due to ear fatigue. The mix actually sounds better to me this
> morning than it did last night. The NHT A-20 monitors/B-20 subwoofers
> really
> are nice once they are properly dialed in and the subwoofers are in phase(
> thanks again to DC for his help with this). Mixing for long periosds of
> time
> isn't fatiguing. I've been averaging 8-10 hours a day.
>
> Deej
>
> "Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:440ee3ac@linux...
>> Standing O DJ. From reading your posts over the years it seems like
> you're
>> where you want to be. Heres to dreams, vision and persistance :-)
>> Great good luck with this project.
>> MR
>>
>>
>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>> news:440e9b94@linux...
>> > CD release party is Friday. 12 song project. I've got 10 songs mixed
>> > and
> 8
>> > mastered (well.....what passes for mastering around here). This has
>> > been
>> > stressful, but I may just get this done by Friday. We'll be burning
>> > CD's
>> all
>> > day Friday.
>> >
>> >
>> > Man, I'm exhausted. I wish I had about a month to walk away from this
>> before
>> > mastering it. So much for the *perfect world*. As soon as I get a song
>> > mastered, it gets grabbed and sent to some radio station or another for
>> > airplay and promo for the CD release party. I'm sweating bullets about
>> this
>> > but I guess the stuff is radio ready.Everyone seems to like it and I
>> haven't
>> > seen any lynch mobs headed my way........yet.
>> >
>> > So far so good.
>> >
>> > ;o}
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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| Re: Guerilla mixing [message #65254 is a reply to message #65251] |
Wed, 08 March 2006 10:30 |
EK Sound
Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005
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I Actually perfer mixing under pressure... it prevents "over
producing" stuff. You could spend a lifetime mixing a song.
Ultimately if it sounds good and the client is happy, you're done! :-)
David.
DJ wrote:
> Thanks guys. This is really my first commercial project. I'm done lots of
> demo work, some of which were pretty big projects (ie, high track counts)
> but never anything quite like this. The level of musicianship, for the most
> part is excellent and it's been a real learning experience. In hindsight,
> there are still things I would do differently, but overall, I'm happy with
> the results I'm getting. The biggest payoff in this whole thing is that I've
> been working such long hours and so consistently at this that I've got my
> ears right with the room/reference monitors ( thanks to DC and RZ for giving
> me a little time on their systems for a reality check last week) and my
> mixes are translating well. I was mixing until 2:00 AM today. When I went to
> bed, I figured I would wake up, listen to the mix again and find it out of
> balance due to ear fatigue. The mix actually sounds better to me this
> morning than it did last night. The NHT A-20 monitors/B-20 subwoofers really
> are nice once they are properly dialed in and the subwoofers are in phase(
> thanks again to DC for his help with this). Mixing for long periosds of time
> isn't fatiguing. I've been averaging 8-10 hours a day.
>
> Deej
>
> "Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:440ee3ac@linux...
>
>>Standing O DJ. From reading your posts over the years it seems like
>
> you're
>
>>where you want to be. Heres to dreams, vision and persistance :-)
>>Great good luck with this project.
>>MR
>>
>>
>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>>news:440e9b94@linux...
>>
>>>CD release party is Friday. 12 song project. I've got 10 songs mixed and
>
> 8
>
>>>mastered (well.....what passes for mastering around here). This has been
>>>stressful, but I may just get this done by Friday. We'll be burning CD's
>>
>>all
>>
>>>day Friday.
>>>
>>>
>>>Man, I'm exhausted. I wish I had about a month to walk away from this
>>
>>before
>>
>>>mastering it. So much for the *perfect world*. As soon as I get a song
>>>mastered, it gets grabbed and sent to some radio station or another for
>>>airplay and promo for the CD release party. I'm sweating bullets about
>>
>>this
>>
>>>but I guess the stuff is radio ready.Everyone seems to like it and I
>>
>>haven't
>>
>>>seen any lynch mobs headed my way........yet.
>>>
>>>So far so good.
>>>
>>>;o}
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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| Re: Guerilla mixing [message #65268 is a reply to message #65254] |
Thu, 09 March 2006 04:52 |
John [1]
Messages: 2229
Registered: September 2005
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tell that to Mutt Lange. hehe
EK Sound wrote:
> I Actually perfer mixing under pressure... it prevents "over producing"
> stuff. You could spend a lifetime mixing a song. Ultimately if it
> sounds good and the client is happy, you're done! :-)
>
> David.
>
> DJ wrote:
>
>> Thanks guys. This is really my first commercial project. I'm done lots of
>> demo work, some of which were pretty big projects (ie, high track counts)
>> but never anything quite like this. The level of musicianship, for the
>> most
>> part is excellent and it's been a real learning experience. In hindsight,
>> there are still things I would do differently, but overall, I'm happy
>> with
>> the results I'm getting. The biggest payoff in this whole thing is
>> that I've
>> been working such long hours and so consistently at this that I've got my
>> ears right with the room/reference monitors ( thanks to DC and RZ for
>> giving
>> me a little time on their systems for a reality check last week) and my
>> mixes are translating well. I was mixing until 2:00 AM today. When I
>> went to
>> bed, I figured I would wake up, listen to the mix again and find it
>> out of
>> balance due to ear fatigue. The mix actually sounds better to me this
>> morning than it did last night. The NHT A-20 monitors/B-20 subwoofers
>> really
>> are nice once they are properly dialed in and the subwoofers are in
>> phase(
>> thanks again to DC for his help with this). Mixing for long periosds
>> of time
>> isn't fatiguing. I've been averaging 8-10 hours a day.
>>
>> Deej
>>
>> "Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:440ee3ac@linux...
>>
>>> Standing O DJ. From reading your posts over the years it seems like
>>
>>
>> you're
>>
>>> where you want to be. Heres to dreams, vision and persistance :-)
>>> Great good luck with this project.
>>> MR
>>>
>>>
>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>>> news:440e9b94@linux...
>>>
>>>> CD release party is Friday. 12 song project. I've got 10 songs mixed
>>>> and
>>
>>
>> 8
>>
>>>> mastered (well.....what passes for mastering around here). This has
>>>> been
>>>> stressful, but I may just get this done by Friday. We'll be burning
>>>> CD's
>>>
>>>
>>> all
>>>
>>>> day Friday.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Man, I'm exhausted. I wish I had about a month to walk away from this
>>>
>>>
>>> before
>>>
>>>> mastering it. So much for the *perfect world*. As soon as I get a song
>>>> mastered, it gets grabbed and sent to some radio station or another for
>>>> airplay and promo for the CD release party. I'm sweating bullets about
>>>
>>>
>>> this
>>>
>>>> but I guess the stuff is radio ready.Everyone seems to like it and I
>>>
>>>
>>> haven't
>>>
>>>> seen any lynch mobs headed my way........yet.
>>>>
>>>> So far so good.
>>>>
>>>> ;o}
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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| Re: Guerilla mixing [message #65273 is a reply to message #65260] |
Thu, 09 March 2006 07:28 |
Russ
Messages: 14
Registered: June 2005
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Had some some good news from my specialist today and this post just hit the
spot and made me giggle, alot...
"Paul Braun" <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote in message
news:5k6v02lpt321vf9tfstaovgr1ef2qqnp60@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 8 Mar 2006 01:49:22 -0700, "DJ"
> <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>Man, I'm exhausted. I wish I had about a month to walk away from this
>>before
>>mastering it. So much for the *perfect world*. As soon as I get a song
>>mastered, it gets grabbed and sent to some radio station or another for
>>airplay and promo for the CD release party. I'm sweating bullets about
>>this
>>but I guess the stuff is radio ready.Everyone seems to like it and I
>>haven't
>>seen any lynch mobs headed my way........yet.
>>
> What we need to know, above anything else, is the exact audio chain
> involved in this recording.
>
> Split it into two posts, if necessary.
>
> ;-P
>
> Congrats, dude.
>
> pab
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| Re: Guerilla mixing [message #65275 is a reply to message #65231] |
Thu, 09 March 2006 08:28 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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Burned a CD last night of the all of the final mixes/masters. The clent
loves it. There are still some things that are making me cringe.(sigh).
We're going to give it another good listen today and make notes song by song
(should have done this weeks ago but there were a number of things that
slowed this down) Remixes should go quickly if called for. The issues are
small ones and as the client says......"man, nobody but you would even hear
that". It's really a matter of what kind of playback device is being used at
this point. There are some things I hear/don't hear on my car stereo that
aren't even noticable on bigger systems, but since this is where people
listen to music, I want to address these issues.I have compared this mix to
some other commercial mixes on my car stereo and it really sounds better
than some, not quite as good as others so I'm in the commercial ballpark, so
to speak.
He's got 1000 blank silk screened CD's, jackets and jewel boxes already.
We're going to burn 200 CD's for the release party tomorrow night. It's a
benefit for the Red Cross and there are going to be three radio stations and
a lot of folks there. I won't feel bad about selling the CD's with the mixes
as they stand right now at the party tonight but the client is going to
Hawaii for two months on March 15th so I'm going to have some more time to
really polish this project before the first large run which will be done by
a local studio here once I'm done. I'm getting a *per unit* royalty on this
so, there's more of a payoff to getting this right than just massaging my
ego. This guys a touring musician and it will be getting quite a bit of
exposure. I want him to have a *great* product.
Man, I'm tired. This deadline stuff really does hone your chops and
basically *decides things for you*.
;oP.
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:440e9b94@linux...
> CD release party is Friday. 12 song project. I've got 10 songs mixed and 8
> mastered (well.....what passes for mastering around here). This has been
> stressful, but I may just get this done by Friday. We'll be burning CD's
all
> day Friday.
>
>
> Man, I'm exhausted. I wish I had about a month to walk away from this
before
> mastering it. So much for the *perfect world*. As soon as I get a song
> mastered, it gets grabbed and sent to some radio station or another for
> airplay and promo for the CD release party. I'm sweating bullets about
this
> but I guess the stuff is radio ready.Everyone seems to like it and I
haven't
> seen any lynch mobs headed my way........yet.
>
> So far so good.
>
> ;o}
>
>
>
>
>
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| Re: Guerilla mixing [message #65278 is a reply to message #65268] |
Thu, 09 March 2006 09:29 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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A local engineer has worked quite bit with Mutt Lange. He was over here
helping me mic up a session a while back and started telling Mutt Lange
stories......like how it too him a week of 8-10 hour days just to get the
drums and bass to his liking in a mix. Something like 2 full days just to
nail the kick and snare .
;o}
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:441025fe@linux...
> tell that to Mutt Lange. hehe
>
> EK Sound wrote:
> > I Actually perfer mixing under pressure... it prevents "over producing"
> > stuff. You could spend a lifetime mixing a song. Ultimately if it
> > sounds good and the client is happy, you're done! :-)
> >
> > David.
> >
> > DJ wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks guys. This is really my first commercial project. I'm done lots
of
> >> demo work, some of which were pretty big projects (ie, high track
counts)
> >> but never anything quite like this. The level of musicianship, for the
> >> most
> >> part is excellent and it's been a real learning experience. In
hindsight,
> >> there are still things I would do differently, but overall, I'm happy
> >> with
> >> the results I'm getting. The biggest payoff in this whole thing is
> >> that I've
> >> been working such long hours and so consistently at this that I've got
my
> >> ears right with the room/reference monitors ( thanks to DC and RZ for
> >> giving
> >> me a little time on their systems for a reality check last week) and my
> >> mixes are translating well. I was mixing until 2:00 AM today. When I
> >> went to
> >> bed, I figured I would wake up, listen to the mix again and find it
> >> out of
> >> balance due to ear fatigue. The mix actually sounds better to me this
> >> morning than it did last night. The NHT A-20 monitors/B-20 subwoofers
> >> really
> >> are nice once they are properly dialed in and the subwoofers are in
> >> phase(
> >> thanks again to DC for his help with this). Mixing for long periosds
> >> of time
> >> isn't fatiguing. I've been averaging 8-10 hours a day.
> >>
> >> Deej
> >>
> >> "Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:440ee3ac@linux...
> >>
> >>> Standing O DJ. From reading your posts over the years it seems like
> >>
> >>
> >> you're
> >>
> >>> where you want to be. Heres to dreams, vision and persistance :-)
> >>> Great good luck with this project.
> >>> MR
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> >>> news:440e9b94@linux...
> >>>
> >>>> CD release party is Friday. 12 song project. I've got 10 songs mixed
> >>>> and
> >>
> >>
> >> 8
> >>
> >>>> mastered (well.....what passes for mastering around here). This has
> >>>> been
> >>>> stressful, but I may just get this done by Friday. We'll be burning
> >>>> CD's
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> all
> >>>
> >>>> day Friday.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Man, I'm exhausted. I wish I had about a month to walk away from this
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> before
> >>>
> >>>> mastering it. So much for the *perfect world*. As soon as I get a
song
> >>>> mastered, it gets grabbed and sent to some radio station or another
for
> >>>> airplay and promo for the CD release party. I'm sweating bullets
about
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> this
> >>>
> >>>> but I guess the stuff is radio ready.Everyone seems to like it and I
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> haven't
> >>>
> >>>> seen any lynch mobs headed my way........yet.
> >>>>
> >>>> So far so good.
> >>>>
> >>>> ;o}
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
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| Re: Guerilla mixing [message #65279 is a reply to message #65278] |
Thu, 09 March 2006 09:31 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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.......oh yeah......and this was just for one song, not all the songs in the
entire project. Each song got the same treatment.
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:44106700@linux...
> A local engineer has worked quite bit with Mutt Lange. He was over here
> helping me mic up a session a while back and started telling Mutt Lange
> stories......like how it too him a week of 8-10 hour days just to get the
> drums and bass to his liking in a mix. Something like 2 full days just to
> nail the kick and snare .
>
> ;o}
>
> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:441025fe@linux...
> > tell that to Mutt Lange. hehe
> >
> > EK Sound wrote:
> > > I Actually perfer mixing under pressure... it prevents "over
producing"
> > > stuff. You could spend a lifetime mixing a song. Ultimately if it
> > > sounds good and the client is happy, you're done! :-)
> > >
> > > David.
> > >
> > > DJ wrote:
> > >
> > >> Thanks guys. This is really my first commercial project. I'm done
lots
> of
> > >> demo work, some of which were pretty big projects (ie, high track
> counts)
> > >> but never anything quite like this. The level of musicianship, for
the
> > >> most
> > >> part is excellent and it's been a real learning experience. In
> hindsight,
> > >> there are still things I would do differently, but overall, I'm happy
> > >> with
> > >> the results I'm getting. The biggest payoff in this whole thing is
> > >> that I've
> > >> been working such long hours and so consistently at this that I've
got
> my
> > >> ears right with the room/reference monitors ( thanks to DC and RZ for
> > >> giving
> > >> me a little time on their systems for a reality check last week) and
my
> > >> mixes are translating well. I was mixing until 2:00 AM today. When I
> > >> went to
> > >> bed, I figured I would wake up, listen to the mix again and find it
> > >> out of
> > >> balance due to ear fatigue. The mix actually sounds better to me this
> > >> morning than it did last night. The NHT A-20 monitors/B-20 subwoofers
> > >> really
> > >> are nice once they are properly dialed in and the subwoofers are in
> > >> phase(
> > >> thanks again to DC for his help with this). Mixing for long periosds
> > >> of time
> > >> isn't fatiguing. I've been averaging 8-10 hours a day.
> > >>
> > >> Deej
> > >>
> > >> "Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:440ee3ac@linux...
> > >>
> > >>> Standing O DJ. From reading your posts over the years it seems like
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> you're
> > >>
> > >>> where you want to be. Heres to dreams, vision and persistance :-)
> > >>> Great good luck with this project.
> > >>> MR
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> > >>> news:440e9b94@linux...
> > >>>
> > >>>> CD release party is Friday. 12 song project. I've got 10 songs
mixed
> > >>>> and
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 8
> > >>
> > >>>> mastered (well.....what passes for mastering around here). This has
> > >>>> been
> > >>>> stressful, but I may just get this done by Friday. We'll be burning
> > >>>> CD's
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> all
> > >>>
> > >>>> day Friday.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Man, I'm exhausted. I wish I had about a month to walk away from
this
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> before
> > >>>
> > >>>> mastering it. So much for the *perfect world*. As soon as I get a
> song
> > >>>> mastered, it gets grabbed and sent to some radio station or another
> for
> > >>>> airplay and promo for the CD release party. I'm sweating bullets
> about
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> this
> > >>>
> > >>>> but I guess the stuff is radio ready.Everyone seems to like it and
I
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> haven't
> > >>>
> > >>>> seen any lynch mobs headed my way........yet.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> So far so good.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ;o}
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
>
>
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| Re: Guerilla mixing [message #65280 is a reply to message #65278] |
Thu, 09 March 2006 09:44 |
EK Sound
Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005
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Senior Member |
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There is no way a person could remain objective about a sound after
that long... if it took me 2 days to get a kick sound that would work
with the track, I would quit and go frame houses or something.
David.
DJ wrote:
> A local engineer has worked quite bit with Mutt Lange. He was over here
> helping me mic up a session a while back and started telling Mutt Lange
> stories......like how it too him a week of 8-10 hour days just to get the
> drums and bass to his liking in a mix. Something like 2 full days just to
> nail the kick and snare .
>
> ;o}
>
> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:441025fe@linux...
>
>>tell that to Mutt Lange. hehe
>>
>>EK Sound wrote:
>>
>>>I Actually perfer mixing under pressure... it prevents "over producing"
>>>stuff. You could spend a lifetime mixing a song. Ultimately if it
>>>sounds good and the client is happy, you're done! :-)
>>>
>>>David.
>>>
>>>DJ wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Thanks guys. This is really my first commercial project. I'm done lots
>
> of
>
>>>>demo work, some of which were pretty big projects (ie, high track
>
> counts)
>
>>>>but never anything quite like this. The level of musicianship, for the
>>>>most
>>>>part is excellent and it's been a real learning experience. In
>
> hindsight,
>
>>>>there are still things I would do differently, but overall, I'm happy
>>>>with
>>>>the results I'm getting. The biggest payoff in this whole thing is
>>>>that I've
>>>>been working such long hours and so consistently at this that I've got
>
> my
>
>>>>ears right with the room/reference monitors ( thanks to DC and RZ for
>>>>giving
>>>>me a little time on their systems for a reality check last week) and my
>>>>mixes are translating well. I was mixing until 2:00 AM today. When I
>>>>went to
>>>>bed, I figured I would wake up, listen to the mix again and find it
>>>>out of
>>>>balance due to ear fatigue. The mix actually sounds better to me this
>>>>morning than it did last night. The NHT A-20 monitors/B-20 subwoofers
>>>>really
>>>>are nice once they are properly dialed in and the subwoofers are in
>>>>phase(
>>>>thanks again to DC for his help with this). Mixing for long periosds
>>>>of time
>>>>isn't fatiguing. I've been averaging 8-10 hours a day.
>>>>
>>>>Deej
>>>>
>>>>"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:440ee3ac@linux...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Standing O DJ. From reading your posts over the years it seems like
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>you're
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>where you want to be. Heres to dreams, vision and persistance :-)
>>>>>Great good luck with this project.
>>>>>MR
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>>>>>news:440e9b94@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>CD release party is Friday. 12 song project. I've got 10 songs mixed
>>>>>>and
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>8
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>mastered (well.....what passes for mastering around here). This has
>>>>>>been
>>>>>>stressful, but I may just get this done by Friday. We'll be burning
>>>>>>CD's
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>all
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>day Friday.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Man, I'm exhausted. I wish I had about a month to walk away from this
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>before
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>mastering it. So much for the *perfect world*. As soon as I get a
>
> song
>
>>>>>>mastered, it gets grabbed and sent to some radio station or another
>
> for
>
>>>>>>airplay and promo for the CD release party. I'm sweating bullets
>
> about
>
>>>>>
>>>>>this
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>but I guess the stuff is radio ready.Everyone seems to like it and I
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>haven't
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>seen any lynch mobs headed my way........yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So far so good.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>;o}
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>
>
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| Re: Guerilla mixing [message #65285 is a reply to message #65275] |
Thu, 09 March 2006 13:11 |
dc[3]
Messages: 895
Registered: September 2005
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Senior Member |
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Good work Deej!
Hey, both views are right. Most people will never hear the things
that bug you, but yes, you need to fix them.
Why?
Because those who open the door to future jobs *will* hear them,
and those who have good systems and good ears will hear them
and they often carry more than their share of influence.
Most of all, this is your life, your resume, and you want it to
stand up to the test of time.
Not to put pressure on you, but I am glad you will have the time
to work a little more closely on the things that bug you.
It is a very good sign when you like something better in the
morning than you did they night before!
I am still replacing tracks and editing on the live 24-trk session.
It's going well, and I have a bunch of preliminary EQ's and FX
settings sounding pretty good.
Everyone loves the drum sound...
4 MICS!! Kick, snare, and stereo pair overhead. amazing...
heh heh had to bust your hump a little...
best,
DC
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| Re: Guerilla mixing [message #65296 is a reply to message #65278] |
Fri, 10 March 2006 04:51 |
John [1]
Messages: 2229
Registered: September 2005
|
Senior Member |
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I've been trying to copy his Kick Snare for months so I know the
feeling. hehe
DJ wrote:
> A local engineer has worked quite bit with Mutt Lange. He was over here
> helping me mic up a session a while back and started telling Mutt Lange
> stories......like how it too him a week of 8-10 hour days just to get the
> drums and bass to his liking in a mix. Something like 2 full days just to
> nail the kick and snare .
>
> ;o}
>
> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:441025fe@linux...
>
>>tell that to Mutt Lange. hehe
>>
>>EK Sound wrote:
>>
>>>I Actually perfer mixing under pressure... it prevents "over producing"
>>>stuff. You could spend a lifetime mixing a song. Ultimately if it
>>>sounds good and the client is happy, you're done! :-)
>>>
>>>David.
>>>
>>>DJ wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Thanks guys. This is really my first commercial project. I'm done lots
>
> of
>
>>>>demo work, some of which were pretty big projects (ie, high track
>
> counts)
>
>>>>but never anything quite like this. The level of musicianship, for the
>>>>most
>>>>part is excellent and it's been a real learning experience. In
>
> hindsight,
>
>>>>there are still things I would do differently, but overall, I'm happy
>>>>with
>>>>the results I'm getting. The biggest payoff in this whole thing is
>>>>that I've
>>>>been working such long hours and so consistently at this that I've got
>
> my
>
>>>>ears right with the room/reference monitors ( thanks to DC and RZ for
>>>>giving
>>>>me a little time on their systems for a reality check last week) and my
>>>>mixes are translating well. I was mixing until 2:00 AM today. When I
>>>>went to
>>>>bed, I figured I would wake up, listen to the mix again and find it
>>>>out of
>>>>balance due to ear fatigue. The mix actually sounds better to me this
>>>>morning than it did last night. The NHT A-20 monitors/B-20 subwoofers
>>>>really
>>>>are nice once they are properly dialed in and the subwoofers are in
>>>>phase(
>>>>thanks again to DC for his help with this). Mixing for long periosds
>>>>of time
>>>>isn't fatiguing. I've been averaging 8-10 hours a day.
>>>>
>>>>Deej
>>>>
>>>>"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:440ee3ac@linux...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Standing O DJ. From reading your posts over the years it seems like
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>you're
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>where you want to be. Heres to dreams, vision and persistance :-)
>>>>>Great good luck with this project.
>>>>>MR
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>>>>>news:440e9b94@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>CD release party is Friday. 12 song project. I've got 10 songs mixed
>>>>>>and
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>8
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>mastered (well.....what passes for mastering around here). This has
>>>>>>been
>>>>>>stressful, but I may just get this done by Friday. We'll be burning
>>>>>>CD's
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>all
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>day Friday.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Man, I'm exhausted. I wish I had about a month to walk away from this
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>before
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>mastering it. So much for the *perfect world*. As soon as I get a
>
> song
>
>>>>>>mastered, it gets grabbed and sent to some radio station or another
>
> for
>
>>>>>>airplay and promo for the CD release party. I'm sweating bullets
>
> about
>
>>>>>
>>>>>this
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>but I guess the stuff is radio ready.Everyone seems to like it and I
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>haven't
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>seen any lynch mobs headed my way........yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So far so good.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>;o}
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>
>
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| Re: Guerilla mixing [message #65297 is a reply to message #65280] |
Fri, 10 March 2006 04:58 |
John [1]
Messages: 2229
Registered: September 2005
|
Senior Member |
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Actually Mutt DOES seem to remain objective. He seems to just get what
a good song is and keeps working on the craft to achieve his well
understood goals. The thing is, if you KNOW exactly what your goal is
then if it takes 100 times more than average to achieve it you can STILL
achieve it as long as you are clear on what the goal is. I have studied
Mutt seriously for YEARS and his craft appears to be very refined but
very describable.
I find his albums some of the most enjoyable of any I own starting with
Woman in Me and Come on Over. I consider UP much less interesting but
his talent is all over them. Also Foreigner 4, the AC/DC stuff and
Bryan Adams albums show that his skill is not a fluke but a mature
craft. He is quoted as saying he doesn't care about audiophile quality,
he cares what will SELL and that is all. He is writing his songs for
the checkout girl at the walmart. With Shania they are worth over 1/2
billion bucks so I think they are doing something right.
John
EK Sound wrote:
> There is no way a person could remain objective about a sound after that
> long... if it took me 2 days to get a kick sound that would work with
> the track, I would quit and go frame houses or something.
>
> David.
>
> DJ wrote:
>
>> A local engineer has worked quite bit with Mutt Lange. He was over here
>> helping me mic up a session a while back and started telling Mutt Lange
>> stories......like how it too him a week of 8-10 hour days just to get the
>> drums and bass to his liking in a mix. Something like 2 full days
>> just to
>> nail the kick and snare .
>>
>> ;o}
>>
>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:441025fe@linux...
>>
>>> tell that to Mutt Lange. hehe
>>>
>>> EK Sound wrote:
>>>
>>>> I Actually perfer mixing under pressure... it prevents "over producing"
>>>> stuff. You could spend a lifetime mixing a song. Ultimately if it
>>>> sounds good and the client is happy, you're done! :-)
>>>>
>>>> David.
>>>>
>>>> DJ wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks guys. This is really my first commercial project. I'm done lots
>>
>>
>> of
>>
>>>>> demo work, some of which were pretty big projects (ie, high track
>>
>>
>> counts)
>>
>>>>> but never anything quite like this. The level of musicianship, for the
>>>>> most
>>>>> part is excellent and it's been a real learning experience. In
>>
>>
>> hindsight,
>>
>>>>> there are still things I would do differently, but overall, I'm happy
>>>>> with
>>>>> the results I'm getting. The biggest payoff in this whole thing is
>>>>> that I've
>>>>> been working such long hours and so consistently at this that I've got
>>
>>
>> my
>>
>>>>> ears right with the room/reference monitors ( thanks to DC and RZ for
>>>>> giving
>>>>> me a little time on their systems for a reality check last week)
>>>>> and my
>>>>> mixes are translating well. I was mixing until 2:00 AM today. When I
>>>>> went to
>>>>> bed, I figured I would wake up, listen to the mix again and find it
>>>>> out of
>>>>> balance due to ear fatigue. The mix actually sounds better to me this
>>>>> morning than it did last night. The NHT A-20 monitors/B-20 subwoofers
>>>>> really
>>>>> are nice once they are properly dialed in and the subwoofers are in
>>>>> phase(
>>>>> thanks again to DC for his help with this). Mixing for long periosds
>>>>> of time
>>>>> isn't fatiguing. I've been averaging 8-10 hours a day.
>>>>>
>>>>> Deej
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:440ee3ac@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Standing O DJ. From reading your posts over the years it seems like
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> you're
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> where you want to be. Heres to dreams, vision and persistance :-)
>>>>>> Great good luck with this project.
>>>>>> MR
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:440e9b94@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> CD release party is Friday. 12 song project. I've got 10 songs mixed
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 8
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> mastered (well.....what passes for mastering around here). This has
>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>> stressful, but I may just get this done by Friday. We'll be burning
>>>>>>> CD's
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> all
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> day Friday.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Man, I'm exhausted. I wish I had about a month to walk away from
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> before
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> mastering it. So much for the *perfect world*. As soon as I get a
>>
>>
>> song
>>
>>>>>>> mastered, it gets grabbed and sent to some radio station or another
>>
>>
>> for
>>
>>>>>>> airplay and promo for the CD release party. I'm sweating bullets
>>
>>
>> about
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> this
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but I guess the stuff is radio ready.Everyone seems to like it and I
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> haven't
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> seen any lynch mobs headed my way........yet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So far so good.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ;o}
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
>>
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| Re: Guerilla mixing [message #65314 is a reply to message #65254] |
Fri, 10 March 2006 17:57 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
|
Senior Member |
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|
"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:440f23e6@linux...
> I Actually perfer mixing under pressure... it prevents "over
> producing" stuff. You could spend a lifetime mixing a song.
> Ultimately if it sounds good and the client is happy, you're done! :-)
>
> David.
>
> DJ wrote:
>
> > Thanks guys. This is really my first commercial project. I'm done lots
of
> > demo work, some of which were pretty big projects (ie, high track
counts)
> > but never anything quite like this. The level of musicianship, for the
most
> > part is excellent and it's been a real learning experience. In
hindsight,
> > there are still things I would do differently, but overall, I'm happy
with
> > the results I'm getting. The biggest payoff in this whole thing is that
I've
> > been working such long hours and so consistently at this that I've got
my
> > ears right with the room/reference monitors ( thanks to DC and RZ for
giving
> > me a little time on their systems for a reality check last week) and my
> > mixes are translating well. I was mixing until 2:00 AM today. When I
went to
> > bed, I figured I would wake up, listen to the mix again and find it out
of
> > balance due to ear fatigue. The mix actually sounds better to me this
> > morning than it did last night. The NHT A-20 monitors/B-20 subwoofers
really
> > are nice once they are properly dialed in and the subwoofers are in
phase(
> > thanks again to DC for his help with this). Mixing for long periosds of
time
> > isn't fatiguing. I've been averaging 8-10 hours a day.
> >
> > Deej
> >
> > "Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:440ee3ac@linux...
> >
> >>Standing O DJ. From reading your posts over the years it seems like
> >
> > you're
> >
> >>where you want to be. Heres to dreams, vision and persistance :-)
> >>Great good luck with this project.
> >>MR
> >>
> >>
> >>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> >>news:440e9b94@linux...
> >>
> >>>CD release party is Friday. 12 song project. I've got 10 songs mixed
and
> >
> > 8
> >
> >>>mastered (well.....what passes for mastering around here). This has
been
> >>>stressful, but I may just get this done by Friday. We'll be burning
CD's
> >>
> >>all
> >>
> >>>day Friday.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Man, I'm exhausted. I wish I had about a month to walk away from this
> >>
> >>before
> >>
> >>>mastering it. So much for the *perfect world*. As soon as I get a song
> >>>mastered, it gets grabbed and sent to some radio station or another for
> >>>airplay and promo for the CD release party. I'm sweating bullets about
> >>
> >>this
> >>
> >>>but I guess the stuff is radio ready.Everyone seems to like it and I
> >>
> >>haven't
> >>
> >>>seen any lynch mobs headed my way........yet.
> >>>
> >>>So far so good.
> >>>
> >>>;o}
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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| Re: Guerilla mixing [message #65315 is a reply to message #65254] |
Fri, 10 March 2006 18:09 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
|
Senior Member |
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Well......we're done......and yes, I could have easily spent another week on
this. I was up until 6AM, slept until 10:00, woke up and worked on it until
2:00 PM. The client took it out of here at 2:30 for duplication and I took a
nap.
Since this is a short run fo the party, there are still some things I will
change before the large run is done, but that's going to be in a couple of
weeks, so I can relax and take my time. The client was checking it out at
this other studio in a professionally built mix room (designed by Ed
Stasium) with a very expensive reference system and he is tickled to death
with the whole thing. This mkes me feel very good that I can trust my room..
The CD release party is tonight. I'm expected to attend. I'm pretty much a
hermit these days. It's been dry here all winter but it finally decided to
show up 3 days ago and there is over a foot of snow on the ground. It's
still snowing hard. That's OK. We need it and it's sort of soothing to the
spirit.....like a big fluffy pillow has descended on the area. The plows are
keeping the main roads clear and my little Passport has 4WD so I guess I'll
run the 7 miles into town and schmooze for a while.
;o)
"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:440f23e6@linux...
> I Actually perfer mixing under pressure... it prevents "over
> producing" stuff. You could spend a lifetime mixing a song.
> Ultimately if it sounds good and the client is happy, you're done! :-)
>
> David.
>
> DJ wrote:
>
> > Thanks guys. This is really my first commercial project. I'm done lots
of
> > demo work, some of which were pretty big projects (ie, high track
counts)
> > but never anything quite like this. The level of musicianship, for the
most
> > part is excellent and it's been a real learning experience. In
hindsight,
> > there are still things I would do differently, but overall, I'm happy
with
> > the results I'm getting. The biggest payoff in this whole thing is that
I've
> > been working such long hours and so consistently at this that I've got
my
> > ears right with the room/reference monitors ( thanks to DC and RZ for
giving
> > me a little time on their systems for a reality check last week) and my
> > mixes are translating well. I was mixing until 2:00 AM today. When I
went to
> > bed, I figured I would wake up, listen to the mix again and find it out
of
> > balance due to ear fatigue. The mix actually sounds better to me this
> > morning than it did last night. The NHT A-20 monitors/B-20 subwoofers
really
> > are nice once they are properly dialed in and the subwoofers are in
phase(
> > thanks again to DC for his help with this). Mixing for long periosds of
time
> > isn't fatiguing. I've been averaging 8-10 hours a day.
> >
> > Deej
> >
> > "Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:440ee3ac@linux...
> >
> >>Standing O DJ. From reading your posts over the years it seems like
> >
> > you're
> >
> >>where you want to be. Heres to dreams, vision and persistance :-)
> >>Great good luck with this project.
> >>MR
> >>
> >>
> >>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> >>news:440e9b94@linux...
> >>
> >>>CD release party is Friday. 12 song project. I've got 10 songs mixed
and
> >
> > 8
> >
> >>>mastered (well.....what passes for mastering around here). This has
been
> >>>stressful, but I may just get this done by Friday. We'll be burning
CD's
> >>
> >>all
> >>
> >>>day Friday.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Man, I'm exhausted. I wish I had about a month to walk away from this
> >>
> >>before
> >>
> >>>mastering it. So much for the *perfect world*. As soon as I get a song
> >>>mastered, it gets grabbed and sent to some radio station or another for
> >>>airplay and promo for the CD release party. I'm sweating bullets about
> >>
> >>this
> >>
> >>>but I guess the stuff is radio ready.Everyone seems to like it and I
> >>
> >>haven't
> >>
> >>>seen any lynch mobs headed my way........yet.
> >>>
> >>>So far so good.
> >>>
> >>>;o}
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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