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Would this system work with Paris? [message #56907]

Mon, 15 August 2005 16:09

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k">tc@spammetodeathyoubastards.org> wrote in message
> news:43012e4a@linux...
> > Sure, but can the average Nigerian pay that? Or even afford a car?
That's
> > probably a
> > pretty small token gesture for what the oil companies get in return for
> > the exploitation
> > of Nigeria.. although I am sure the government officials do well..
> >
> &g

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Re: Would this system work with Paris? [message #56939 is a reply to message #56907]

Tue, 16 August 2005 06:37

Chris Ludwig

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t;ER's for the right side to around 35ms and the ER's to the left to around
>>10ms with the levels about 2/3 to 3/4 (or less) of the strength of the
>>original signal. This woulld theoretically give me a basic two dimensional
>>(L/R) location of the musician in an ambient space, right?
>>
>>Also, do you pan the reverb send to mirror the return? I'm just not getting
>>this for some reason. Seems that panning the send does nothing. Maybe I'm
>>just too overwhelmed at the moment to notice.
>>
>>2. In order to get the front/back positioning of the musician relative
to
>>the other band members and the front/back of the room, using predealy would
>>provide some dimensional space........right? what I'm not clear about is
>>whether the predelay should be set for positioning the performers relative
>>to the fall of the space that is farthest from them or from the wall that
>is
>>behind them. I know that since they are broadcasting into the room, that
>the
>>front makes sense, but music travels all directions and it seems it would
>>make smoe sense to at least take the back wall into consideration.
>>
>>Also, I'm thinking that using actual short (2-3 ms delays) between the
>>instruments/performers themselves would help to create some sen

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Re: Would this system work with Paris? [message #56954 is a reply to message #56939]

Tue, 16 August 2005 12:17

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ls
>>and the submix fader is redlined almost constantly. The Global fader is
>at
>>0dBfs and I've got NoLimit set with a threshold of -2 , limiting at -0.9.
>>
>>This mix sounds very big and I hear no distortion at all. It's really
>>reminiscent of analog tape, no harshness/brittle sound. It may be a bit
>much
>>for a Bluegrass mix but it held together well and there is plenty of
>>separation.
>>
>>When I open it in Wavelab, it's obvious where the NoLimit was doing it's
>>thing. Certain peaks were squared off a bit.........nothing resembling
a
>>square wave situation, just a number of spots where it is visually apparent.
>>
>>When I run an analysis of the mix file in Wavelab, I'm getting huge amounts
>>of errors, like 1000 errors in the first 6 seconds.
>>
>>I wonder what's up. If NoLimit is doing something to this file which would
>>preclude it being dupliccated in reproduction plant, then I'm going to
have
>>to be much more careful. I'm also wondeering if lightpiping this many tracks
>>from SX to Paris with a dither lgo applied to each track to avoid
>>quantization errors is perhaps causing errors somehow. I have listened
very
>>closely and I hear absolutely no audible problems, other than the sort
of
>>smooth glue that is the *secret sauce* that mixing hot on this system can
>>impart to the tracks.
>>
>>
>What I am looking for is to tame the low end on both guitar a

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Re: Would this system work with Paris? [message #56961 is a reply to message #56954]

Tue, 16 August 2005 16:17

Martin Harrington

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brandon_goodwin@REMOVETHISsbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:43026d39$1@linux...
>>>

There used to be a website that had "current" resale value for just about

>>> any pro audio gear...
>>> Anyone know it?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>That's a disturbing image!

Damn that Mutt Lange! Damn him to hell!

John <no@no.com> wrote:
>While Zep 1 has great depth, it does not have any of the imaging found
>on The Woman In Me.
>
>Cujo wrote:
>> I may sound like a luddite(iI am occused of this often by friends) here,
>> but old Glynn Johns for instance had a left right and center pan control,
>> sounds like Ememrick did too. annd some tape delays, springs and plates.
>> Ok, they probably had some real chambers. I still think Zep 1 and Who's
Next
>> sound amazing. and have "depth"
>> Of course the general public probably thinks they sound old..so what the
>> hell do I know?
>>
>>
>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I don't believe that getting this analytical about something
>>>will necessarly make it sound better. Why do you feel you have
>>>to create a specific space (unless you're trying to match it to
>>>an existing specific space like in Foley work, ADR, replacment
>>>tracks for a live multitrack performance, etc).
>>>
>>>How about this... Imagine what kind of space you'd like to hear
>>>that particular song in, pick one that's close to that in one of
>>>your verb units, then tweak as necessary to your heart's
>>>content - and that's the key, use your heart (emotional
>>>response), not your brain.
>>>
>>>Neil
>>>

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Re: Would this system work with Paris? [message #56962 is a reply to message #56961]

Tue, 16 August 2005 16:20

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>>>
>>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I'm needing to get pretty anal retentive with this stuff these days.
I'm
>>>
>>>in
>>>
>>>>a very small market and I am starting to carve

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Re: Would this system work with Paris? [message #56970 is a reply to message #56962]

Tue, 16 August 2005 18:15

Martin Harrington

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s. You must be thinking of
Macs.

"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
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> Don't really know, except to say that most of my mates that use Paris, )or
> other audio programs), had stability problems when setting the system up.
> I, and other P4 users had zero setup problems, and still dont.
>
> --
> Martin Harrington
> www.lendanear-sound.com
>
> "TC" <tc@spammetodeathyoubastards.org> wrote in message
> news:430274ea$1@linux...
> > Really? I thought the opposite was true by what most people use here?
> > Or am I thinking of more like 3 years ago?
> >

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Re: Would this system work with Paris? [message #56977 is a reply to message #56970]

Tue, 16 August 2005 22:34

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t and Juliet will jump up
on
>the bed and lay down on top of me while I'm asleep so they can get warm
>while I die of suffocation.
>
>;oP
>
>wow! 40s? Is that way below average or is the climate down there get cold
around now.

We're still holding above 80 almost every day, in fact August has been the
hottest month of the summer... although I have started to see frost type
moisture on the cars in the morning.

Damn, the summer is seriously over though... another summer gone!

We'll probably get about a 3 week fall, then its 5 months of snow....
wheeeeeee

"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
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> Summer is over here. It's been raining every day for about 10 days and
> fall
> is in the air big time. It was actually a bit nippy today until late
> afternoon and right now it's probably close to 40 degrees F.
>
> I'm getting ready to turn on the friggin heater.......in August. Seems
> like
> a strange thing to do but if I don't Crashbasket and Juliet will jump up
> on
> the bed and lay down on top of me while I'm asleep so they can get warm
> while I die of suffocation.
>
> ;oP
>
>You find

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Re: Would this system work with Paris? [message #56995 is a reply to message #56954]

Wed, 17 August 2005 08:30

Chris Ludwig

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------=_NextPart_000_0079_01C5A326.0F93DB00--Yes, it does come with it's own sounds and they're pretty good. It's also
pretty easy to import your own sounds. I've imported several of my dfh
Superior sounds. I've been running t

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Re: Would this system work with Paris? [message #56996 is a reply to message #56961]

Wed, 17 August 2005 08:38

Chris Ludwig

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he AU version of 4.02 on my Mac with DP
4.52 for several weeks and it works well. I haven't tried it with PARIS yet.

Tony

"Gary Flanigan" <gary_flanigan@ce9.uscourts.gov> wrote in message
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>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> If you haven't seen it, it is very cool now.
> Finally got Drumagog 4.02 cooking and it is as good as it ever was.
>
> Does this come with its own set of replacement drum sounds, or do you use
> it with sample librar

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