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| Re: Anyone here using a Variax 300 steel string? [message #76866 is a reply to message #76864] |
Fri, 08 December 2006 10:48   |
Jamie K
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Registered: July 2006
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I know what you mean with the electrics, I've played the 300 and 700
electrics and they are not top-end instruments. Workable and decent
sounding, though, and amazingly flexible.
I went with the 700 electric for a better build, feel and look, but I'll
bet the 600 is OK for a more stratish setup. The 300s (electrics) I've
played have varied widely in fit and finish, some much better than others.
The 700 Acoustics I've played have had good feel, best of the bunch, and
the few I tried were pretty consistent. My first one had an immediate
electronic problem, the replacement has been dependable. You should try
that model. Haven't played the 300 Acoustics but if they're made in the
same place as the 700 acoustic they may be fine.
For the electrics, some people have been transplanting the guts,
especially the 300 electric's guts, into better guitars. That's tempting.
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
D.P. wrote:
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
> news:4578fe97@linux...
>> Wondering if these make the cool giggin' guitar they appear to be (looking
>> at starting a 2 man ac gtr act).
>>
>> Anyone got one/use one/played one/heard one?
>>
>>
>> Mucho Gracias
>> AA
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> I don't own one, nor have I spent any significant time playing one, so my
> opinion doesn't count ;-)
>
> However, my first impressions of all Variax (electric) guitars I put my
> hands on was that they felt cheap. I'd be willing to pay big bucks for the
> Variax guts in a decent guitar, though.
>
> For the record, I use their flagship modelling amp (Vetta II) and am
> constantly amazed at all it can do. All I'm missing now is a Variax-like
> input into it... but I just know that no matter how flexible the Variax
> might be, if it feels like junk compared to my main axe, it won't get played
> and will just gather dust.
>
> Dan
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>
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| Re: Anyone here using a Variax 300 steel string? [message #76876 is a reply to message #76866] |
Sat, 09 December 2006 03:53 |
Bill Lorentzen
Messages: 140
Registered: June 2005
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I haven't spent much time with the electrics either but my first impressions
were, 1) cheap gtr and, 2) sort of a disconnect with the sound. It did not
feel immediate and inspiring to me.
I'm interested to hear about the acoustic nylon, if it plays well and sounds
good. I've been trying to get a real nylon sound live for a long time and
while pickups are better than nothing, they don'e ever sound like the real
thing.
Bill L
"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:4579b0fd@linux...
>
> I know what you mean with the electrics, I've played the 300 and 700
> electrics and they are not top-end instruments. Workable and decent
> sounding, though, and amazingly flexible.
>
> I went with the 700 electric for a better build, feel and look, but I'll
> bet the 600 is OK for a more stratish setup. The 300s (electrics) I've
> played have varied widely in fit and finish, some much better than others.
>
> The 700 Acoustics I've played have had good feel, best of the bunch, and
> the few I tried were pretty consistent. My first one had an immediate
> electronic problem, the replacement has been dependable. You should try
> that model. Haven't played the 300 Acoustics but if they're made in the
> same place as the 700 acoustic they may be fine.
>
> For the electrics, some people have been transplanting the guts,
> especially the 300 electric's guts, into better guitars. That's tempting.
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
> D.P. wrote:
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>> news:4578fe97@linux...
>>> Wondering if these make the cool giggin' guitar they appear to be
>>> (looking at starting a 2 man ac gtr act).
>>>
>>> Anyone got one/use one/played one/heard one?
>>>
>>>
>>> Mucho Gracias
>>> AA
>>
>> I don't own one, nor have I spent any significant time playing one, so my
>> opinion doesn't count ;-)
>>
>> However, my first impressions of all Variax (electric) guitars I put my
>> hands on was that they felt cheap. I'd be willing to pay big bucks for
>> the Variax guts in a decent guitar, though.
>>
>> For the record, I use their flagship modelling amp (Vetta II) and am
>> constantly amazed at all it can do. All I'm missing now is a Variax-like
>> input into it... but I just know that no matter how flexible the Variax
>> might be, if it feels like junk compared to my main axe, it won't get
>> played and will just gather dust.
>>
>> Dan
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| Re: Anyone here using a Variax 300 steel string? [message #76882 is a reply to message #76876] |
Sat, 09 December 2006 10:17 |
Jamie K
Messages: 1115
Registered: July 2006
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Yeah, the nylon 300 acoustic is intriguing. The 700 acoustic (steel
string) has a nylon emulation that's semi-usable. But a version that's
actually strung with nylon should be better for that.
As far as immediacy goes, I can tell you that the sound on my 700
electric is immediate and inspiring. I am feeling no disconnect with the
sound.
For example it holds up well in comparison to my PRS. The playability of
the PRS is better but the 700 electric is certainly playable. The PRS is
more tonally flexible than a lot of other electrics, but the 700
electric is even more tonally flexible: It has decent models of a vast
range of electrics, plus acoustic sounds, along with alternate tunings
and customizable sounds via WorkBench software, very cool.
For example I can put a jazzy mellow neck humbucking sound next to
twangy middle/bridge single coil sound (no hum), next to an acoustic
sound, next to a screaming bridge humbucking sound, next to a single
coil neck sound, in any order, all on one 5 way pickup switch bank.
I can change tunings: go to drop D, an open tuning, a usable octave down
bass or drop an acoustic guitar down a half step, at the flick of the
switch. Keep in mind that the farther you tune a string electronically,
the more you can hear that transposition is electronically done, but
it's still a very useful and usable trick.
The biggest problem with my 700 electric is the whammy bar: it wobbles
in its socket and there are some setup issues with keeping in tune after
whammy use...I need to get that looked at. Also, the neck is only 22
frets and I like to have 24 like on the PRS.
Both do great at gigs. What I take to the gig depends on what's needed.
As far as the acoustic 700, it's great for solo acoustic gigs and
non-stereo recording. I thought about selling it when I got the electric
700 but they are both keepers. If I were buying one now I'd also check
out the acoustic 300 and then decide.
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
Bill Lorentzen wrote:
> I haven't spent much time with the electrics either but my first impressions
> were, 1) cheap gtr and, 2) sort of a disconnect with the sound. It did not
> feel immediate and inspiring to me.
>
> I'm interested to hear about the acoustic nylon, if it plays well and sounds
> good. I've been trying to get a real nylon sound live for a long time and
> while pickups are better than nothing, they don'e ever sound like the real
> thing.
>
> Bill L
>
>
> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:4579b0fd@linux...
>> I know what you mean with the electrics, I've played the 300 and 700
>> electrics and they are not top-end instruments. Workable and decent
>> sounding, though, and amazingly flexible.
>>
>> I went with the 700 electric for a better build, feel and look, but I'll
>> bet the 600 is OK for a more stratish setup. The 300s (electrics) I've
>> played have varied widely in fit and finish, some much better than others.
>>
>> The 700 Acoustics I've played have had good feel, best of the bunch, and
>> the few I tried were pretty consistent. My first one had an immediate
>> electronic problem, the replacement has been dependable. You should try
>> that model. Haven't played the 300 Acoustics but if they're made in the
>> same place as the 700 acoustic they may be fine.
>>
>> For the electrics, some people have been transplanting the guts,
>> especially the 300 electric's guts, into better guitars. That's tempting.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>> D.P. wrote:
>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>> news:4578fe97@linux...
>>>> Wondering if these make the cool giggin' guitar they appear to be
>>>> (looking at starting a 2 man ac gtr act).
>>>>
>>>> Anyone got one/use one/played one/heard one?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mucho Gracias
>>>> AA
>>> I don't own one, nor have I spent any significant time playing one, so my
>>> opinion doesn't count ;-)
>>>
>>> However, my first impressions of all Variax (electric) guitars I put my
>>> hands on was that they felt cheap. I'd be willing to pay big bucks for
>>> the Variax guts in a decent guitar, though.
>>>
>>> For the record, I use their flagship modelling amp (Vetta II) and am
>>> constantly amazed at all it can do. All I'm missing now is a Variax-like
>>> input into it... but I just know that no matter how flexible the Variax
>>> might be, if it feels like junk compared to my main axe, it won't get
>>> played and will just gather dust.
>>>
>>> Dan
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