| Re: OT:movie on 911-youve got to see this [message #71560] |
Mon, 21 August 2006 11:47  |
Dedric Terry
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Registered: June 2007
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On 8/21/06 11:43 AM, in article 44e9f0b4$1@linux, "LaMont"
<jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
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> Dedric..No...You don;t confuse the two. I know who I am and who is lord of
> my life (Jesus). Just because we differ on Us politics and events, does not
> mean that people who Christians who think like me are not.
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> Politics & religion: Let's see..This current regime used
> relifion(Christianity)
> to get re-eletced. Tell them to "not confuse the two"!!
That's political propaganda. I never heard Bush claim religion of any kind
as a reason to vote for him. If you as a Christian are saying he shouldn't
even claim to be one as a politician, then you are simply hastening the
demise of anyone's right to claim any faith of any kind in public.
You've extrapolated your own perception of the election after the fact to
make your argument.
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> Did not Jesus say the following:
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Yes, and it is applicable all the time, but I don't see your point of
quoting it in the context of this discussion, other than to backup my point.
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> Blessed are you when men reproach you, and
> persecute you, and speaking falsely, say all manner of evil against you,
> for my sake.
This just proves my actual point in my last post if you read it more
carefully, fwiw.
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> That's what I know and belive. You can can continue to belive is this false
> bravado you call Patriotism and love by it.
Patriotism isn't bravado - only a flag-burning, moral relativistic mentality
degrades it to that state. I don't doubt you believe these verses, as I do,
but if you, or anyone else truly wanted to live the last verse you quoted
and all of the others, they would feel the need to make the accusations and
claims you have made in calling our government killers and saying you would
rather support terrorists.
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> As for me and my family, we will continue to ride in our mini vans, and drink
> slurpies while heading down to Costcos..
>
So then, why bring up auto worker unions and gun rights as part of your
argument against Christians and citizens that *don't* make it a habit of
slandering the President and our government just to appease our
frustrations, whatever they may be?
I don't follow your reasoning. Reread my post. It wasn't the blind retort
to your post you might think, though I was refuting several points of your
argument. It was a broader perspective on the state of our country's
values, which I will continually assert is a source and symptom of the
*real* problem - one that is independent of who is in office or what war we
may be fighting - and one that is evident in the arguments I see time and
time again. You claim my reference to patriotism is bravado, or perhaps you
think patriotism is nothing but bravado, but my post was in no way waving a
flag of patriotism for patriotism's sake, but rather a reference to the loss
of patriotism as it should be. You made an incorrect assumption.
Dedric
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