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| Re: Laptop Recording ? [message #98235 is a reply to message #98231] |
Fri, 25 April 2008 15:22   |
Chris Ludwig
Messages: 868
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Hi,
I've done this system a bunch of times for people doing live recording.
http://www.adkproaudio.com/systems/saved_system.cfm?systemid =97&saved_id=14182
We have done systems with RME Multiface/Digiface express card setups, fireface 400/800, Motu firewire units, Yamaha N12, mackie Onyx so far.
The internal drive can easily record 26 tracks or 24bit 44.1/48k. Haven't tried to record more so far just because of the I/0 limit on the devices.
With the benchmarks the drive get you should be able to do 64 tracks @ 24bit 44.1/48. Can't wait to try RME's new MADIface with it. :)
You should only really need to use and external drive if you are doing very long recording i.e., over 1 hour or using it for backing up the sessions.
I would avoid wireless when possible with the audio setups. They do tend to interfere with audio devices.
Chris
tonehouse wrote:
> Thanks for the info Jeff,That sounds like a very good system. On your Dell
> are you running Vista?? It's really difficult to find any 7200 rpm drives
> in a laptop..It's basically difficult to configure any PC laptop,to be
> better than a MacBook Pro,for less than $2000,especially if you want to get
> an XP box....
> "Jeff H" <jkhoover@nospam+excite.com> wrote in message
> news:481221eb@linux...
>> Doing a little with and RME Multiface (Nuendo brand) into Cubase SX.
>> Eight ananlog and ten digital I/O (with ADAT and Sp/Dif). Haven't used
>> the digital side but the analog works great. I'm looking to get an
>> eight analog to adat converter box so I can pull 16 direct off a board
>> for live recording. Laptop is DEll Latitude 630 with a 7200 RPM drive
>> (going down to internal drive).
>>
>> JEff
>>
>> tonehouse wrote:
>>> Is anyone doing recording on a laptop?( with happy results) What
>>> model/manufacturer do you use? What interface do you like? What
> software?
>>> Thanks for any input..
>>>
>>>
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.com
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| Re: Laptop Recording ? [message #98236 is a reply to message #98235] |
Fri, 25 April 2008 16:42 |
tonehouse
Messages: 184
Registered: July 2006
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I have never heard of ADK...way cool ..thanks Chris
"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:48125bd5@linux...
> Hi,
> I've done this system a bunch of times for people doing live recording.
>
>
http://www.adkproaudio.com/systems/saved_system.cfm?systemid =97&saved_id=14182
>
> We have done systems with RME Multiface/Digiface express card setups,
fireface 400/800, Motu firewire units, Yamaha N12, mackie Onyx so far.
>
> The internal drive can easily record 26 tracks or 24bit 44.1/48k. Haven't
tried to record more so far just because of the I/0 limit on the devices.
> With the benchmarks the drive get you should be able to do 64 tracks @
24bit 44.1/48. Can't wait to try RME's new MADIface with it. :)
> You should only really need to use and external drive if you are doing
very long recording i.e., over 1 hour or using it for backing up the
sessions.
>
> I would avoid wireless when possible with the audio setups. They do tend
to interfere with audio devices.
>
> Chris
>
>
> tonehouse wrote:
> > Thanks for the info Jeff,That sounds like a very good system. On your
Dell
> > are you running Vista?? It's really difficult to find any 7200 rpm
drives
> > in a laptop..It's basically difficult to configure any PC laptop,to be
> > better than a MacBook Pro,for less than $2000,especially if you want to
get
> > an XP box....
> > "Jeff H" <jkhoover@nospam+excite.com> wrote in message
> > news:481221eb@linux...
> >> Doing a little with and RME Multiface (Nuendo brand) into Cubase SX.
> >> Eight ananlog and ten digital I/O (with ADAT and Sp/Dif). Haven't used
> >> the digital side but the analog works great. I'm looking to get an
> >> eight analog to adat converter box so I can pull 16 direct off a board
> >> for live recording. Laptop is DEll Latitude 630 with a 7200 RPM drive
> >> (going down to internal drive).
> >>
> >> JEff
> >>
> >> tonehouse wrote:
> >>> Is anyone doing recording on a laptop?( with happy results) What
> >>> model/manufacturer do you use? What interface do you like? What
> > software?
> >>> Thanks for any input..
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
>
> --
> Chris Ludwig
>
> ADK Pro Audio
> (859) 635-5762
> www.adkproaudio.com
> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
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| Re: Laptop Recording ? [message #98237 is a reply to message #98236] |
Fri, 25 April 2008 15:52 |
Jeff H
Messages: 9
Registered: April 2008
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I'd look seriously at one of these for my next purchase...the proven
track record on audio would be worth it...it seems these days though
neither time nor money grows on trees, money is easier to find.
Jeff
tonehouse wrote:
> I have never heard of ADK...way cool ..thanks Chris
> "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
> news:48125bd5@linux...
>
>>Hi,
>>I've done this system a bunch of times for people doing live recording.
>>
>>
>
> http://www.adkproaudio.com/systems/saved_system.cfm?systemid =97&saved_id=14182
>
>>We have done systems with RME Multiface/Digiface express card setups,
>
> fireface 400/800, Motu firewire units, Yamaha N12, mackie Onyx so far.
>
>>The internal drive can easily record 26 tracks or 24bit 44.1/48k. Haven't
>
> tried to record more so far just because of the I/0 limit on the devices.
>
>>With the benchmarks the drive get you should be able to do 64 tracks @
>
> 24bit 44.1/48. Can't wait to try RME's new MADIface with it. :)
>
>>You should only really need to use and external drive if you are doing
>
> very long recording i.e., over 1 hour or using it for backing up the
> sessions.
>
>>I would avoid wireless when possible with the audio setups. They do tend
>
> to interfere with audio devices.
>
>>Chris
>>
>>
>>tonehouse wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the info Jeff,That sounds like a very good system. On your
>
> Dell
>
>>>are you running Vista?? It's really difficult to find any 7200 rpm
>
> drives
>
>>>in a laptop..It's basically difficult to configure any PC laptop,to be
>>>better than a MacBook Pro,for less than $2000,especially if you want to
>
> get
>
>>>an XP box....
>>>"Jeff H" <jkhoover@nospam+excite.com> wrote in message
>>>news:481221eb@linux...
>>>
>>>>Doing a little with and RME Multiface (Nuendo brand) into Cubase SX.
>>>>Eight ananlog and ten digital I/O (with ADAT and Sp/Dif). Haven't used
>>>>the digital side but the analog works great. I'm looking to get an
>>>>eight analog to adat converter box so I can pull 16 direct off a board
>>>>for live recording. Laptop is DEll Latitude 630 with a 7200 RPM drive
>>>>(going down to internal drive).
>>>>
>>>>JEff
>>>>
>>>>tonehouse wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Is anyone doing recording on a laptop?( with happy results) What
>>>>>model/manufacturer do you use? What interface do you like? What
>>>
>>>software?
>>>
>>>>>Thanks for any input..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>--
>>Chris Ludwig
>>
>>ADK Pro Audio
>>(859) 635-5762
>>www.adkproaudio.com
>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com
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>
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| Re: Laptop Recording ? [message #98238 is a reply to message #98235] |
Fri, 25 April 2008 16:19 |
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Hey Chris - what do you think of the Presonus StudioLive 16.4.2?
http://www.presonus.com/products/Detail.aspx?ProductId=52
My friend's salivating over it already as one-stop-shopping for
simultaneously doing live sound + recording - 16 mic pres, FW interface, 2
global DSPs, every channel has its own/dynamics/gate/4 band EQ/HPF, six
auxes... I'm interested to see how much it costs. He's currently using one
of the Phonic Helix boards for that, but this looks like a step up.
- Kerry
On 4/25/08 3:22 PM, in article 48125bd5@linux, "Chris Ludwig"
<chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> I've done this system a bunch of times for people doing live recording.
>
> http://www.adkproaudio.com/systems/saved_system.cfm?systemid =97&saved_id=14182
>
> We have done systems with RME Multiface/Digiface express card setups, fireface
> 400/800, Motu firewire units, Yamaha N12, mackie Onyx so far.
>
> The internal drive can easily record 26 tracks or 24bit 44.1/48k. Haven't
> tried to record more so far just because of the I/0 limit on the devices.
> With the benchmarks the drive get you should be able to do 64 tracks @ 24bit
> 44.1/48. Can't wait to try RME's new MADIface with it. :)
> You should only really need to use and external drive if you are doing very
> long recording i.e., over 1 hour or using it for backing up the sessions.
>
> I would avoid wireless when possible with the audio setups. They do tend to
> interfere with audio devices.
>
> Chris
>
>
> tonehouse wrote:
>> Thanks for the info Jeff,That sounds like a very good system. On your Dell
>> are you running Vista?? It's really difficult to find any 7200 rpm drives
>> in a laptop..It's basically difficult to configure any PC laptop,to be
>> better than a MacBook Pro,for less than $2000,especially if you want to get
>> an XP box....
>> "Jeff H" <jkhoover@nospam+excite.com> wrote in message
>> news:481221eb@linux...
>>> Doing a little with and RME Multiface (Nuendo brand) into Cubase SX.
>>> Eight ananlog and ten digital I/O (with ADAT and Sp/Dif). Haven't used
>>> the digital side but the analog works great. I'm looking to get an
>>> eight analog to adat converter box so I can pull 16 direct off a board
>>> for live recording. Laptop is DEll Latitude 630 with a 7200 RPM drive
>>> (going down to internal drive).
>>>
>>> JEff
>>>
>>> tonehouse wrote:
>>>> Is anyone doing recording on a laptop?( with happy results) What
>>>> model/manufacturer do you use? What interface do you like? What
>> software?
>>>> Thanks for any input..
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
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| Re: Laptop Recording ? [message #98239 is a reply to message #98238] |
Fri, 25 April 2008 16:40 |
Chris Ludwig
Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006
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HI Kerry,
Haven't touched one yet. Don't think is shipping retail yet.
If it is based on the same Dice2 chip they use on the Fire studio then I have my doubts as to how reliable it may be driver wise.
Also not being able to deal with 96k at this point in time seems odd.
I think as long as the driver is reliable it would be great for live recording.
As a straight live mixer it looks pretty sweet.
Not having any Digital I/O and better sample rate support to me is pretty limiting in a studio setup.
If the street price point is good then it could be a big winner. The Yamaha N12 is the closest thing to it.
On paper the Presonus blows it away. The Yamaha has solid drivers, tight integration with Cubase/Nuendo and sounds great.
Chris
Kerry Galloway wrote:
> Hey Chris - what do you think of the Presonus StudioLive 16.4.2?
>
> http://www.presonus.com/products/Detail.aspx?ProductId=52
>
> My friend's salivating over it already as one-stop-shopping for
> simultaneously doing live sound + recording - 16 mic pres, FW interface, 2
> global DSPs, every channel has its own/dynamics/gate/4 band EQ/HPF, six
> auxes... I'm interested to see how much it costs. He's currently using one
> of the Phonic Helix boards for that, but this looks like a step up.
>
> - Kerry
>
>
>
>
> On 4/25/08 3:22 PM, in article 48125bd5@linux, "Chris Ludwig"
> <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> I've done this system a bunch of times for people doing live recording.
>>
>> http://www.adkproaudio.com/systems/saved_system.cfm?systemid =97&saved_id=14182
>>
>> We have done systems with RME Multiface/Digiface express card setups, fireface
>> 400/800, Motu firewire units, Yamaha N12, mackie Onyx so far.
>>
>> The internal drive can easily record 26 tracks or 24bit 44.1/48k. Haven't
>> tried to record more so far just because of the I/0 limit on the devices.
>> With the benchmarks the drive get you should be able to do 64 tracks @ 24bit
>> 44.1/48. Can't wait to try RME's new MADIface with it. :)
>> You should only really need to use and external drive if you are doing very
>> long recording i.e., over 1 hour or using it for backing up the sessions.
>>
>> I would avoid wireless when possible with the audio setups. They do tend to
>> interfere with audio devices.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> tonehouse wrote:
>>> Thanks for the info Jeff,That sounds like a very good system. On your Dell
>>> are you running Vista?? It's really difficult to find any 7200 rpm drives
>>> in a laptop..It's basically difficult to configure any PC laptop,to be
>>> better than a MacBook Pro,for less than $2000,especially if you want to get
>>> an XP box....
>>> "Jeff H" <jkhoover@nospam+excite.com> wrote in message
>>> news:481221eb@linux...
>>>> Doing a little with and RME Multiface (Nuendo brand) into Cubase SX.
>>>> Eight ananlog and ten digital I/O (with ADAT and Sp/Dif). Haven't used
>>>> the digital side but the analog works great. I'm looking to get an
>>>> eight analog to adat converter box so I can pull 16 direct off a board
>>>> for live recording. Laptop is DEll Latitude 630 with a 7200 RPM drive
>>>> (going down to internal drive).
>>>>
>>>> JEff
>>>>
>>>> tonehouse wrote:
>>>>> Is anyone doing recording on a laptop?( with happy results) What
>>>>> model/manufacturer do you use? What interface do you like? What
>>> software?
>>>>> Thanks for any input..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.com
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| Re: Laptop Recording ? [message #98315 is a reply to message #98223] |
Mon, 28 April 2008 16:27 |
Wayne
Messages: 206
Registered: July 2008
Location: Las Vegas
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Hey "T",
I use a Dell Inspiron 6000. I won't recommend it because when the pwr
supply is plug'd in I hear noise from poor grounding. I think it's a Dell
problem. The only way to get rid of the noise is to unplug the pwr cord and
run on batteries or, I've got a 2' wire with alligator clips on both sides
and I manually ground the laptop to my mackie board or pwr amp or any bare
steel.
2. Even though I only use the laptop to create and edit midi sequences (to
later dump into Paris), I do still record rough audio (vox and acoustic gtr)
to it via M-audio MobilePre USB 2.0 so that it's easier for me to build the
midi sequences. The mobile pre is 2 in and 2 out with headphone. In other
words, I find a simple midi drum loop, loop it for 4 minutes, play the
acoustic and sing and then I begin building the sequences.
I tried the mobile pre by itself but I didn't like the direct monitor
function. This would have been ideal, (the mobilepre fit in the laptop
case) but as you will see, I now have to haul around a mini mixer also.
I just use Sonar Cakewalk Home Studio and the efx's only work on playback so
while singing a rough take onto or into a midi sequence project, I have no
reverb. Blah! So, what I have done for my portable rig is run the mic and
acoustic into my CFX12 mackie with built in digital efx. I route channel 5
(vox) out of aux 1 and channel 6 (acoustic) out aux 2 to the mobile pre and
via USB into the laptop Cakewalk project. I mute these two tracks in the
project while recording. The aux sends are dry signals for recording.
While I'm recording, the project is playing back the drum loops or bass
lines or whatever keyboard parts are on the sequence. The mobilepre grabs
the laptop audio via the USB and sends it to my mackie channel 1 and 2
(L/R). So I listen to L/R playback and I let the acoustic and vox signal
continue down thru the mackie channels and into the mains. The mains now
contain the project L/R playback and my vocal and acoustic signals with the
efx's placed on the mains so I have some or a lot of reverb as I'm tracking.
I listen via headphone output which is the mains signal out with efx's.
Hope this helps.
Wayne
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| Re: Laptop Recording ? [message #98318 is a reply to message #98315] |
Mon, 28 April 2008 16:51 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
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I've had the same problems with my Inspiron 8000/8100 stuff in the past.
Changing power supplies made zero difference. However, lifting the power
adapter ground pin got about 75% of it. Safe? Not really, but it makes it
almost managable. A Ebtech Hum Eliminator oughta catch the rest but I've
long since moved on so I never tried it. YMMV, FYI.
AA
"Wayne Carson" <waynecarson@cox.net> wrote in message news:48165ff8@linux...
> Hey "T",
>
> I use a Dell Inspiron 6000. I won't recommend it because when the pwr
> supply is plug'd in I hear noise from poor grounding. I think it's a Dell
> problem. The only way to get rid of the noise is to unplug the pwr cord
> and run on batteries or, I've got a 2' wire with alligator clips on both
> sides and I manually ground the laptop to my mackie board or pwr amp or
> any bare steel.
>
> 2. Even though I only use the laptop to create and edit midi sequences
> (to later dump into Paris), I do still record rough audio (vox and
> acoustic gtr) to it via M-audio MobilePre USB 2.0 so that it's easier for
> me to build the midi sequences. The mobile pre is 2 in and 2 out with
> headphone. In other words, I find a simple midi drum loop, loop it for 4
> minutes, play the acoustic and sing and then I begin building the
> sequences.
>
> I tried the mobile pre by itself but I didn't like the direct monitor
> function. This would have been ideal, (the mobilepre fit in the laptop
> case) but as you will see, I now have to haul around a mini mixer also.
>
> I just use Sonar Cakewalk Home Studio and the efx's only work on playback
> so while singing a rough take onto or into a midi sequence project, I have
> no reverb. Blah! So, what I have done for my portable rig is run the mic
> and acoustic into my CFX12 mackie with built in digital efx. I route
> channel 5 (vox) out of aux 1 and channel 6 (acoustic) out aux 2 to the
> mobile pre and via USB into the laptop Cakewalk project. I mute these two
> tracks in the project while recording. The aux sends are dry signals for
> recording.
>
> While I'm recording, the project is playing back the drum loops or bass
> lines or whatever keyboard parts are on the sequence. The mobilepre grabs
> the laptop audio via the USB and sends it to my mackie channel 1 and 2
> (L/R). So I listen to L/R playback and I let the acoustic and vox signal
> continue down thru the mackie channels and into the mains. The mains now
> contain the project L/R playback and my vocal and acoustic signals with
> the efx's placed on the mains so I have some or a lot of reverb as I'm
> tracking. I listen via headphone output which is the mains signal out with
> efx's.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>
> Wayne
>
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| Re: Laptop Recording ? [message #98323 is a reply to message #98318] |
Tue, 29 April 2008 08:06 |
Chris Ludwig
Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006
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Hi Aaron,
Grounding issues on laptops have unfortunately always been and probably always will be a problem.
It happens to the cheapest to the most expensive laptops.
The power supply and power block on laptops are the first place manufacturers will cut corner to make the laptop cheaper.
If some one doesn't have a grounding problem on a laptop then it is more to do with luck.
Your method of dealing with is the correct one.
Chris
Aaron Allen wrote:
> I've had the same problems with my Inspiron 8000/8100 stuff in the past.
> Changing power supplies made zero difference. However, lifting the power
> adapter ground pin got about 75% of it. Safe? Not really, but it makes it
> almost managable. A Ebtech Hum Eliminator oughta catch the rest but I've
> long since moved on so I never tried it. YMMV, FYI.
>
> AA
>
>
> "Wayne Carson" <waynecarson@cox.net> wrote in message news:48165ff8@linux...
>> Hey "T",
>>
>> I use a Dell Inspiron 6000. I won't recommend it because when the pwr
>> supply is plug'd in I hear noise from poor grounding. I think it's a Dell
>> problem. The only way to get rid of the noise is to unplug the pwr cord
>> and run on batteries or, I've got a 2' wire with alligator clips on both
>> sides and I manually ground the laptop to my mackie board or pwr amp or
>> any bare steel.
>>
>> 2. Even though I only use the laptop to create and edit midi sequences
>> (to later dump into Paris), I do still record rough audio (vox and
>> acoustic gtr) to it via M-audio MobilePre USB 2.0 so that it's easier for
>> me to build the midi sequences. The mobile pre is 2 in and 2 out with
>> headphone. In other words, I find a simple midi drum loop, loop it for 4
>> minutes, play the acoustic and sing and then I begin building the
>> sequences.
>>
>> I tried the mobile pre by itself but I didn't like the direct monitor
>> function. This would have been ideal, (the mobilepre fit in the laptop
>> case) but as you will see, I now have to haul around a mini mixer also.
>>
>> I just use Sonar Cakewalk Home Studio and the efx's only work on playback
>> so while singing a rough take onto or into a midi sequence project, I have
>> no reverb. Blah! So, what I have done for my portable rig is run the mic
>> and acoustic into my CFX12 mackie with built in digital efx. I route
>> channel 5 (vox) out of aux 1 and channel 6 (acoustic) out aux 2 to the
>> mobile pre and via USB into the laptop Cakewalk project. I mute these two
>> tracks in the project while recording. The aux sends are dry signals for
>> recording.
>>
>> While I'm recording, the project is playing back the drum loops or bass
>> lines or whatever keyboard parts are on the sequence. The mobilepre grabs
>> the laptop audio via the USB and sends it to my mackie channel 1 and 2
>> (L/R). So I listen to L/R playback and I let the acoustic and vox signal
>> continue down thru the mackie channels and into the mains. The mains now
>> contain the project L/R playback and my vocal and acoustic signals with
>> the efx's placed on the mains so I have some or a lot of reverb as I'm
>> tracking. I listen via headphone output which is the mains signal out with
>> efx's.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.com
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| Re: Laptop Recording ? [message #98326 is a reply to message #98323] |
Tue, 29 April 2008 11:05 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
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Senior Member |
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As expected, but sure is nice to be validated. My Toshiba Tablet R-15 is
DEAD silent no matter what I plug into it. I paid something like $3500 for
the Dell something like 6 or 7 years ago, and the tablet sold for $2000, but
I caught it on a close out at $1000. I frankly prefer the Toshiba line
IME/YMMV over the Dell offerings for music production, but you have to clean
the Toshiba crapware off, as with any other vendors machines.
AA
"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:48173bb9$1@linux...
> Hi Aaron,
> Grounding issues on laptops have unfortunately always been and probably
> always will be a problem.
> It happens to the cheapest to the most expensive laptops.
> The power supply and power block on laptops are the first place
> manufacturers will cut corner to make the laptop cheaper.
> If some one doesn't have a grounding problem on a laptop then it is more
> to do with luck.
>
> Your method of dealing with is the correct one.
>
> Chris
>
>
> Aaron Allen wrote:
>> I've had the same problems with my Inspiron 8000/8100 stuff in the past.
>> Changing power supplies made zero difference. However, lifting the power
>> adapter ground pin got about 75% of it. Safe? Not really, but it makes it
>> almost managable. A Ebtech Hum Eliminator oughta catch the rest but I've
>> long since moved on so I never tried it. YMMV, FYI.
>>
>> AA
>>
>>
>> "Wayne Carson" <waynecarson@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:48165ff8@linux...
>>> Hey "T",
>>>
>>> I use a Dell Inspiron 6000. I won't recommend it because when the pwr
>>> supply is plug'd in I hear noise from poor grounding. I think it's a
>>> Dell problem. The only way to get rid of the noise is to unplug the pwr
>>> cord and run on batteries or, I've got a 2' wire with alligator clips
>>> on both sides and I manually ground the laptop to my mackie board or pwr
>>> amp or any bare steel.
>>>
>>> 2. Even though I only use the laptop to create and edit midi sequences
>>> (to later dump into Paris), I do still record rough audio (vox and
>>> acoustic gtr) to it via M-audio MobilePre USB 2.0 so that it's easier
>>> for me to build the midi sequences. The mobile pre is 2 in and 2 out
>>> with headphone. In other words, I find a simple midi drum loop, loop it
>>> for 4 minutes, play the acoustic and sing and then I begin building the
>>> sequences.
>>>
>>> I tried the mobile pre by itself but I didn't like the direct monitor
>>> function. This would have been ideal, (the mobilepre fit in the laptop
>>> case) but as you will see, I now have to haul around a mini mixer also.
>>>
>>> I just use Sonar Cakewalk Home Studio and the efx's only work on
>>> playback so while singing a rough take onto or into a midi sequence
>>> project, I have no reverb. Blah! So, what I have done for my portable
>>> rig is run the mic and acoustic into my CFX12 mackie with built in
>>> digital efx. I route channel 5 (vox) out of aux 1 and channel 6
>>> (acoustic) out aux 2 to the mobile pre and via USB into the laptop
>>> Cakewalk project. I mute these two tracks in the project while
>>> recording. The aux sends are dry signals for recording.
>>>
>>> While I'm recording, the project is playing back the drum loops or bass
>>> lines or whatever keyboard parts are on the sequence. The mobilepre
>>> grabs the laptop audio via the USB and sends it to my mackie channel 1
>>> and 2 (L/R). So I listen to L/R playback and I let the acoustic and vox
>>> signal continue down thru the mackie channels and into the mains. The
>>> mains now contain the project L/R playback and my vocal and acoustic
>>> signals with the efx's placed on the mains so I have some or a lot of
>>> reverb as I'm tracking. I listen via headphone output which is the mains
>>> signal out with efx's.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.
>>>
>>>
>>> Wayne
>>>
>>
>>
>
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> Chris Ludwig
>
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> (859) 635-5762
> www.adkproaudio.com
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| Re: Laptop Recording ? [message #98345 is a reply to message #98318] |
Thu, 01 May 2008 10:34 |
Ed
Messages: 199
Registered: February 2006
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That's strange Aaron. I found a bargain on ebay for a Dell Inspiron 8200
and got it. I paid something like $130 for it. So I upgraded the harddrive
to a 7200rpm, bought new RAM and max'd it out to 2GB and got a PCMCIA firewire/usb
card. I use it mainly for mobile and acoustic recording in Sonar 7. I have
issues with Sonar, but my recordings are clean. I've only recorded a few
tracks since I got this all going, but it was recording clean. I was in-fear
that I was going to have noise problems (since I read the horror stories)...
but many folks claim to stop and disable the onboard firewire and usb completely
and go with a PCMCIA Texas Instruments type.
Anyway, I got side-tracked on other things and haven't fully tested everything.
But just mic'in an acoustic with an older Rode NT and using an Alesis io14
firewire... clean and sonic! I am having big time learning curve with the
Sonar 7. I am rather disappointed with it... and I am always happy a bug
to fire up my Paris on my desktop....
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>I've had the same problems with my Inspiron 8000/8100 stuff in the past.
>Changing power supplies made zero difference. However, lifting the power
>adapter ground pin got about 75% of it. Safe? Not really, but it makes it
>almost managable. A Ebtech Hum Eliminator oughta catch the rest but I've
>long since moved on so I never tried it. YMMV, FYI.
>
>AA
>
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>"Wayne Carson" <waynecarson@cox.net> wrote in message news:48165ff8@linux...
>> Hey "T",
>>
>> I use a Dell Inspiron 6000. I won't recommend it because when the pwr
>> supply is plug'd in I hear noise from poor grounding. I think it's a Dell
>> problem. The only way to get rid of the noise is to unplug the pwr cord
>> and run on batteries or, I've got a 2' wire with alligator clips on both
>> sides and I manually ground the laptop to my mackie board or pwr amp or
>> any bare steel.
>>
>> 2. Even though I only use the laptop to create and edit midi sequences
>> (to later dump into Paris), I do still record rough audio (vox and
>> acoustic gtr) to it via M-audio MobilePre USB 2.0 so that it's easier
for
>> me to build the midi sequences. The mobile pre is 2 in and 2 out with
>> headphone. In other words, I find a simple midi drum loop, loop it for
4
>> minutes, play the acoustic and sing and then I begin building the
>> sequences.
>>
>> I tried the mobile pre by itself but I didn't like the direct monitor
>> function. This would have been ideal, (the mobilepre fit in the laptop
>> case) but as you will see, I now have to haul around a mini mixer also.
>>
>> I just use Sonar Cakewalk Home Studio and the efx's only work on playback
>> so while singing a rough take onto or into a midi sequence project, I
have
>> no reverb. Blah! So, what I have done for my portable rig is run the
mic
>> and acoustic into my CFX12 mackie with built in digital efx. I route
>> channel 5 (vox) out of aux 1 and channel 6 (acoustic) out aux 2 to the
>> mobile pre and via USB into the laptop Cakewalk project. I mute these
two
>> tracks in the project while recording. The aux sends are dry signals
for
>> recording.
>>
>> While I'm recording, the project is playing back the drum loops or bass
>> lines or whatever keyboard parts are on the sequence. The mobilepre grabs
>> the laptop audio via the USB and sends it to my mackie channel 1 and 2
>> (L/R). So I listen to L/R playback and I let the acoustic and vox signal
>> continue down thru the mackie channels and into the mains. The mains
now
>> contain the project L/R playback and my vocal and acoustic signals with
>> the efx's placed on the mains so I have some or a lot of reverb as I'm
>> tracking. I listen via headphone output which is the mains signal out
with
>> efx's.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>>
>> Wayne
>>
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