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| Re: Stripwav and Nuendo files [message #60817 is a reply to message #60814] |
Thu, 01 December 2005 12:48   |
Don Nafe
Messages: 1206
Registered: July 2005
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4 bit .wav files. Then I boot to OS9 and
use
> > SonicWorx to convert the .wavs to 24 bit .paf files. Then I open PARIS,
add
> > the audio files, and do all my editing and final mixing in PARIS. I
still
> > like the editing in PARIS, I suppose because I'm so used to it. Right
now
> > I'm doing this all on one Mac dual processor G4 and dual booting. I'm
> > getting a G5 soon though and dedicating the G4 to PARIS only. I'll just
> > share a firewire drive between the two. This will also let me use the G5
as
> > a virtual FX rack when mixing in PARIS using external sends. Anyway, I
know
> > this approach is pretty convoluted and might not work for everyone, but
it's
> > my way of having the best of both worlds so to speak. The modern
features in
> > DP and the great sounding mix bus, EQ and easy editing in PARIS. Not to
> > mention the great PARIS plugs like NoLimit, BarbEQ, etc.
> >
> > Tony
> >
> >
> > "Gantt Kushner" <gizmo@his.com> wrote in message
> > news:438F262B.D0B3EB31@his.com...
> >
> >>I love Paris!
> >>
> >>But I'm beginning to realize, especially in the face of new,
> >>cool plugins that'll never work in Paris (like the Waves
> >>Transform Bundle, among others), that I'm eventually going
> >>to have to switch to something that actually has ongoing
> >>development and support.
> >>
> >>So what are my fellow Mac DAW users finding satisfying
> >>after Paris? I own Digital Performer (w/ an old 2408) and
> >>Protools LE (w/ Digi 002). Neither seems as intuitive as
> >>Paris, but I suppose I'd get faster if I immersed myself in
> >>one or the other. My big concern is sound quality. I haven't
> >>found either DP or PT LE as satisfying to listen to and mix on
> >>as Paris. I know I've lost business for not being a Protools
> >>studio, but PT HD would cost a couple of arms and legs.
> >>
> >>What to do?
> >>
> >>Gantt
> >>
> >
> >
> >I went Cubase/Nuendo with a Tascam FW1884 setup and LOVE it.
"Gantt Kushner" <gizmo&
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| Re: Stripwav and Nuendo files [message #60822 is a reply to message #60818] |
Thu, 01 December 2005 14:11 |
Jorsi
Messages: 23
Registered: December 2005
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thoughts as to why this might be happening
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Don
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>LaMont wrote:
> Hey Guys & Gals,
>
> I've been mixing a lot of projects these days on various Pro Tools systems
> ( LE, Le-M-box,HD3) and I have to say that PT is sounding pretty darn good.
> It (Pro- Tools) has a nice high-end(10k) thing that's just sits right in
> todays music (Rock & R&B)..
>
> I came to this conclusion while also mixing int the box using SX/Nuendo on
> various projects. I came to these conclusions of the current state of DAW
> affairs:
>
> - Nuendo/SX-Nice sound. Clear and smooth and warm. After about 40 hot tracks,
> the mixer and mix buss breaks down. Very hard to mix in at that point. Also,
> mixer is very generic sounding. It won;t give you anything sonic wise. AND
> please don't push the mixer nor the 2 track sum bus. Alls you get is headaches.
>
> Paris- What can you say..? Even when you import those above SX/nuendo fiels
> into a new PAris session, they start mixing on their own just by moving the
> faders without even panning.You can hear into the mix. Wonderful!!!
>
> Pro Tools.(6x) Again importing those same SX/Nuendo files into PT sessiion
> and instant magic. Just like Paris, you can hear into the mix. the track
> starts to mix itself. I would say after 50 tracks in Pt things start to
> get a little finicky for hot mixes. But, if you stay in the -3db on the master
> fader, then you should be fine.
>
> Sonar.. Nice plain jane sound. Very vanilla. Just right for those who do
> not what a sonic inprint on their tracks.
>
>
You do know that Avid owns Pinnacle that owns Steinberg right? Why
design an audio engine when you can buy one?
And the PARIS or PT debate is OOOOOLLLLDDDDDActually, Yamaha now owns Steinberg.
David.
Jamey Tiffee wrote:
> LaMont wrote:
>
>
>>
> You do know that Avid owns Pinnacle that owns Steinberg right? Why
> design an audio engine when you can buy one?
> And the PARIS or PT debate is OOOOOLLLLDDDDDAlso - quick and dirty before you get truecrypt..
Right click the e:\ drive in explorer, then the permissions tab (as long
as the drive is formatted NTFS) add your account with full control, then
remove everyone else.
Chuck
jef knight <thestudio@allknightmusic.com> wrote:
>I'll look into this...
>
>John wrote:
>
>> get truecrypt
>>
>> jef knight wrote:
>>
>>> I know some of you guys are really gurus and I can't seem to find the
>>> info I need by googling, and my winhelp seems to be missing...
>>>
>>> I have a laptop that I'm (sigh) forced to share with a couple of
>>
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| Re: Stripwav and Nuendo files [message #60825 is a reply to message #60823] |
Thu, 01 December 2005 15:48 |
Don Nafe
Messages: 1206
Registered: July 2005
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> :-)
> >
> > Jeremy
> >
> >
> >
>
>If you wanna go that route..... You could get a decent PT HD set up from
the used market for about 14k or so.... and i am thinking with 2 or 3 cards
depending on your i/o... of course then you'll probably need some plug-ins.
Here's what i did (along with some others)...
Get a 2nd computer
Put Nuendo on it (don't mess with SX unless you are really strapped for
cash, Nuendo has some "pro" name recognition that SX probably won't ever
have... that's if you care about that).
and get a couple uad-1's... and some urs, and tritone plugs.
get a rme hdsp 9652 (or something with 16 or 24 adat i/o).
for tracking.... plug into paris as you normally would but route the input
to one of your adat outputs that feed nuendo. you will route your nuendo
audio/midi tracks to paris and monitor them through paris... and monitor
your overdub performer or whoever through paris also. you will have no
latency while tracking to nuendo.
for mixing.... you can set up nuendo adat outs to feed paris. set up output
busses in nuendo... drums, bass, vocals, etc... all running into paris. mix
in nuendo with no uad-1 issues and other good plug ins, you can use your
outboard in external inserts now too... when the mix is done... record those
busses in one pass into paris... then do one more pass in paris to bounce to
stereo. ask DJ about dither from 24 to 20 through adat lightpipe...
sometimes you might want to do that on nuendo's outputs if the material
calls for super, super smooth.
sounds like a lot but its not really.
i think its a good transition step to moving away from Paris someday...
keeps the familiar and gets you used to another app... while still
preserving all/alot of the Paris sound. maybe someday something will come
out that allows you to get the same sonic result with a computer as Paris
does (summing box, neve sidecar w/summing, ssl sidecar w/summing)... then
your ready to move to it.
my $.03,
Jeremy
"Gantt Kushner" <gizmo@his.com> wrote in message
news:438F262B.D0B3EB31@his.com...
> I love Paris!
>
> But I'm beginning to realize, especially in the face of new,
> cool plugins that'll never work in Paris (like the Waves
> Transform Bundle, among others), that I'm eventually going
> to have to switch to something that actually has ongoing
> development and support.
>
> So what are my fellow Mac DAW users finding satisfying
> after Paris? I own Digital Performer (w/ an old 2408) and
> Protools LE (w/ Digi 002). Neither seems as intuitive as
> Paris, but I suppos
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