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| OT: NHT PVC [message #55294] |
Tue, 05 July 2005 09:09  |
Dedric Terry
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> > every other microphone on every square of the grid at every possible
> > relative rotational value and also t every elevation in 1" increments
from
> > floor to ceiling, first using two mics, then three, then four, until
I've
> > tried all 30 of my mics at every location on the grid at every vertical
1"
> > increment.
> >
> > I'll report my fi
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| Re: NHT PVC [message #55297 is a reply to message #55296] |
Tue, 05 July 2005 10:01  |
Deej [3]
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> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >Hi Dedric- I have used one for over a year- fantastic, no
troubles whatsoever. I even tried to use one in the signal
chain with my harmonica amp and effects, so I could get that
tube crunch without killing my ears. Didn't work- but with
the DAW, it is fabulous.
Chris
Dedric Terry <dedric@keyofd.net> wrote:
>I know there has been some past discussion of the NHT PVC for passive volume
>control, and maybe some here are using it. I've read reports that due to
>cheaper pots (compared to Coleman and others), it has stereo balance issues
>at lower levels, and to some degree balance problems up to reasonable
>listening levels. I am wondering what experience you have. I guess for
>$100 you get what you pay for.
>
>Thanks,
>Dedric
>Howdy all,
Ive just picked up a Mindprint 2-channel pre-amp with digital converters
onboard. I decided to try clocking my whole Paris rig from this unit. Ive
only had a couple of hours mixing with Paris clocking off the Mindprint.
so far im quite amazed with how much more specific the finer details of the
mix are. Reverbs are much easier the tweak, and notch Eq'ing is easier aswell.
I start an album with a band in the morning, and am eager to keep clocking
digitally via the sdif input.
Has anyone had experience with this? any problems? Any successes?
CheersHi Dave,
It should be fine. If you have several devices needing clock then a dedicated
WC generator would be ideal, but it sounds like it's working for you.
I use a Lucid Genx6-96 and do notice a difference both with PT/Logic and
Paris.
Cheers,
TC
Dave Parkin wrote:
> Howdy all,
>
> Ive just picked up a Mindprint 2-channel pre-amp with digital converters
> onboard. I decided to try clocking my whole Paris rig from this unit. Ive
> only had a couple of hours mixing with Paris clocking off the Mindprint.
> so far im quite amazed with how much more specific the finer details of the
> mix are. Reverbs are much easier the tweak, and notch Eq'ing is easier aswell.
>
> I start an album with a band in the morning, and am eager to keep clocking
> digitally via the sdif input.
> Has anyone had experience with this? any problems? Any successes?
>
> CheersClocking Paris externally is becoming more the norm than the
exception. Remember, the clock in Paris was probably design
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| Re: NHT PVC [message #55298 is a reply to message #55297] |
Tue, 05 July 2005 10:18 |
EK Sound
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ed about
'95 or possibly earlier. Newer clocks capable of higher sampling
rates will be more jitter free at 44/48 than the on-board Paris clock.
David.
Dave Parkin wrote:
> Howdy all,
>
> Ive just picked up a Mindprint 2-channel pre-amp with digital converters
> onboard. I decided to try clocking my whole Paris rig from this unit. Ive
> only had a couple of hours mixing with Paris clocking off the Mindprint.
> so far im quite amazed with how much more specific the finer details of the
> mix are. Reverbs are much easier the tweak, and notch Eq'ing is easier aswell.
>
> I start an album with a band in the morning, and am eager to keep clocking
> digitally via the sdif input.
> Has anyone had experience with this? any problems? Any successes?
>
> CheersI can't believe you haven't already done this. I'm very disappointed. My
world is shattered.
I think I'll go buy a radio controlled hovercraft...
"Mr Simplicity" <animix_spamless_@animas.net> wrote:
> I'm trying to decide the rotational increments I will need for each mic.
>I'm thinking that it *might* work in 5 degree increments between 0 and 360,
>but to be thorough, I'll probably have to go with 1 degree increments. If
>so, this may take another few minutes.
>;o}
>
>"EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
>news:42cac0ef@linux...
>> Have the report on my desk by 14:00. ;-)
>>
>> David.
>>
>> Mr Simplicity wrote:
>>
>> > So now you are trying to induce insecurity into my perfect world?
>> >
>> > Hmmmm......now, after I test the PVC, I'm going to have to get an
>> > oscilloscope and go through each piece of gear in the studio and test
it
>and
>> > also I will need to create a grid in my tracking areas based on 6"
>> > increments and test for phase cancellation with every microphone against
>> > every other microphone on every square of the grid at every possible
>> > relative rotational value and also t every elevation in 1" increments
>from
>> > floor to ceiling, first using two mics, then three, then four, until
>I've
>> > tried all 30 of my mics at every location on the grid at every vertical
>1"
>> > increment.
>> >
>> > I'll report my findings when I'm done.
>> >
>> > ;oP
>> > "EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
>> > news:42cab6b3@linux...
>> >
>> >>One way to check would be to feed a signal through a "Y
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| Re: NHT PVC [message #55299 is a reply to message #55298] |
Tue, 05 July 2005 10:19 |
Deej [3]
Messages: 181
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" cable to the
>> >>input, then invert one of the outputs and sum through another "Y"
>> >>cable. This should effectively cancel the signal. Any audio coming
>> >>through would indicate a left-right imbalance. It's my guess that the
>> >>difference would be less than 1/4 dB. The Central Station that we are
>> >>using has some of the same anomalies... but with the dim button, you
>> >>can get out of the bottom of the taper where the problems exist.
>> >>
>> >>David.
>> >>
>> >>Mr Simplicity wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>I've been using one for 3 years. Never had these issues at all. This
>> >
>> > sounds
>> >
>> >>>like FUD to me.
>> >>>
>> >>>Deej
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>"Dedric Terry" <dedric@keyofd.net> wrote in message
>> >>>news:BEF00CDF.2B92%dedric@keyofd.net...
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>I know there has been some past discussion of the NHT PVC for passive
>> >>>
>> >>>volume
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>control, and maybe some here are using it. I've read reports that
due
>> >
>> > to
>> >
>> >>>>cheaper pots (compared to Coleman and others), it has stereo balance
>> >>>
>> >>>issues
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>at lower levels, and to some degree balance problems up to reasonable
>> >>>>listening levels. I am wondering what experience you have. I guess
>for
>> >>>>$100 you get what you pay for.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Thanks,
>> >>>>Dedric
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >
>> >
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>Howdy fellas,
Cheers for ya swift response. I know most you guys clock externally, but
have only read about clocking via the BNC connection. Are any of you digital
clockers, going via the SDIF input? And is it alright to still have digital
inputs recording, and send the clock down the same cable?
Cheers
EK Sound <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote:
>Clocking Paris externally is becoming more the norm than the
>exception. Remember, the clock in Paris was probably designed about
>'95 or possibly earlier. Newer clocks capable of higher sampling
>rates will be more jitter free at 44/48 than the on-board Paris clock.
>
>David.
>
>Dave Parkin wrote:
>
>> Howdy all,
>>
>> Ive just picked up a Mindprint 2-channel pre-amp with digital converters
>> onboard. I decided to try clocking my whole Paris rig from this unit.
Ive
>> only had a couple of hours mixing with Paris clocking off the Mindprint.
>> so far im quite amazed with how much more specific the finer details of
the
>> mix are. Reverbs are much easier the tweak, and notch Eq'ing is easier
aswell.
>>
>> I start an album with a band in the morning, and am eager to keep
clocking
>> digitally via the sdif input.
>> Has anyone had experience with this? any problems? Any successes?
>>
>> CheersThis is a multi-part message in MIME format.
------=_NextP
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| Re: NHT PVC [message #55304 is a reply to message #55299] |
Tue, 05 July 2005 11:56 |
Stefan
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BNC would be ideal, but it's not always
an option..
Cheers,
TC
Dave Parkin wrote:
> Howdy fellas,
>
> Cheers for ya swift response. I know most you guys clock externally, but
> have only read about clocking via the BNC connection. Are any of you digital
> clockers, going via the SDIF input? And is it alright to still have digital
> inputs recording, and send the clock down the same cable?
>
> Cheers
>
>I just got three fresh 120gb sized Seagate HDs (ata 100)for my Paris rig.
Previously, I have worked exclusively with Maxtors. However, due to recent
problems with RELIAfrekinBILITY (@#$%%@@@!!!)... I've switched to Seagate:)
(By the way, check out www.storagereview.com for a good review of various
manufacturers HD's.) Anyhoo, in all my previous installs I've used the Maxtor
installation program (Maxblast). The drives I got are not OEM (oops), so
I haven't got Seagate's version of Maxblast. I presume Windows can format
the disc's just as well, but I'm not sure if this is true and if so, how
to go about it. I'm running Win 98SE. One of the drives will be my OS/System
drive (though I will be using the extra space on it to store audio files).
The other two are for audio files only.
Gosh, I should know how to do this by now, but I've been Maxblastorized --and
I don't want to mess up my precious bodily data(s) by screwing up an unfamiliar
formatting protocol.
Thanks.
MRParis People:
Working on a song demo here, several days in... The writer now wishes
we were up 6 or 8 BPM... Don't want to start over...
Thinking about timeshifting the thing in Wavelab... Question is --
when? Should I finish rest of tracking ('nother guitar or two -- most
of the lead vox, bg's, etc...) then drag the mix into WL and hit the
"go faster" button? Or process existing tracks, bring'em back ino
Paris and go from there? Whcih way is least screwed up?
(starting to hate having this many choices...) -- Chas."Maxblast" and the like are drive overlay utilities... personally I
would NEVER put anything important on a drive with an overlay. If the
overlay gets corrupt, ALL the information is toast... nothing will
read the drive.
Use at your own peril!!
David.
Mike R. wrote:
> I just got three fresh 120gb sized Seagate HDs (ata 100)for my Paris rig.
> Previously, I have worked exclusively with Maxtors. However, due to recent
> problems with RELIAfrekinBILITY (@#$%%@@@!!!)... I've switched to Seagate:)
> (By the way, check out www.storagereview.com for a good review of various
> manufacturers HD's.) Anyhoo, in all my previous installs I've used the Maxtor
> installation program (Maxblast). The drives I got are not OEM (oops), so
> I haven't got Seagate's version of Maxblast. I presume Windows can format
> the disc's just as well, but I'm not sure if this is true and if so, how
> to go about it. I'm running Win 98SE. One of the drives will be my OS/System
> drive (though I will be using the extra space on it to store audio files).
> The other two are for audio files only.
>
> Gosh, I should know how to do this by now, but I've been Maxblastorized --and
> I don't want to mess up my precious bodily data(s) by screwing up an unfamiliar
> formatting protocol.
> Thanks.
> MRI tried W2K for a while, it was flaky from day one, even though I have a very
modest Paris system (1 EDS, 1 MEC and two 8-ins). I finally gave up and tried
XP, much happier.
DMorrell <don@toneworks.com> wrote:
>Thanks Chris.
>
>Paris has been running fine on 98SE. I guess I won't mess with a
>solid setup. I even continue to beta and run Samplitude on it, though
>I test it on XP as well.
>
>For some reason, I find XP really annoying and rarely use it in the
>studio. I find 2000 flawless for my admin system and network but have
>never used any audio apps on it.
>
>Peace - Don
>
>On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 09:31:09 -0400, Chris Ludwig
><chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>
>>yes Windows 2000 sucks balls to put it in technical terms.:)
>>
>>Sick with 98SE unless you need to use some app that won't work on it.
>>Other wise use XP Home.
>>
>>
>>
>>Chris
>>
>>DMorrell wrote:
>>
>&g
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| Re: NHT PVC [message #55324 is a reply to message #55296] |
Tue, 05 July 2005 21:18 |
Dedric Terry
Messages: 788
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t;;o)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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>Trouble is...they're mostly all younger than my 2 daughters,,,,,,
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com
"Neil" <IOUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:42ca8037$1@linux...
>
> "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>>Thanks Guys,
>>this is the first time I've checkerd the NG for a few days, been doing up
> to
>>16 hrs a day on a new reality show called "Australian Princess", a copy
> of
>>the US version made by Granada TV in the UK....loooong hours, but
>>fun....this is my first day off in weeks..
>>Sleep looks good..(so do some of the young girls in the show, I might
>>add).
>
>
> Hey Martin... I must've missed this thread - so happy, happy
> 37th (lie a bit, maybe you'll get some of those young girls)
> lol!
>
> NeilI thought "Maxblast" and that kind of things was just a overlay that is
doing exactly the same thing as "fdisk" and "format", but just showing up in
a graphic mode, more like a "Windows" system, just for people that doesn't
understand the old "Dos" system. But it just thoughts from me, not knowings.
erlilo
"EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:42caf7bc$1@linux...
> "Maxblast" and the like are drive overlay utilities... personally I would
> NEVER put anything important on a drive with an overlay. If the overlay
> gets corrupt, ALL the information is toast... nothing will read the drive.
>
> Use at your own peril!!
>
> David.
>
> Mike R. wrote:
>
>> I just got three fresh 120gb sized Seagate HDs (ata 100)for my Paris rig.
>> Previously, I have worked exclusively with Maxtors. However, due
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