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Updates on computer setup. [message #101544] Tue, 09 December 2008 20:45 Go to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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I hope this graphic is legible. This is where I am in the IRQ department.
16 is the only one sharing but sharing heavily. I chose this though because
Deej says this new system is very forgiving and I want 18 for the Creamware
card.
The only other choice I had was 19 which shares with the SATA RAID
controller.
I figured that would be a bad place to start bottle necking.

Speaking of which have you seen these:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-det ails.asp?EdpNo=4177125&CatId=139

I've seen them for less but whoa there's some throughput.

The new comps are really alot faster is so many ways.
My comp is running with a FSB 1333. Lordy Mama.

Time to clone.

Tom


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Re: Updates on computer setup. [message #101545 is a reply to message #101544] Tue, 09 December 2008 20:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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Guess you won't be able to read that!
4 cards are on IRQ 20. That's the good news.
I didn't want to send a 7mb pic.

By the way I was wrong about the slots that were sharing IRQ 20.

In my box they were 1, 5, 8 & 12. Flat cable 13 slot Magma.

T.



"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:493f4d51@linux...
> I hope this graphic is legible. This is where I am in the IRQ department.
> 16 is the only one sharing but sharing heavily. I chose this though
> because
> Deej says this new system is very forgiving and I want 18 for the
> Creamware card.
> The only other choice I had was 19 which shares with the SATA RAID
> controller.
> I figured that would be a bad place to start bottle necking.
>
> Speaking of which have you seen these:
> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-det ails.asp?EdpNo=4177125&CatId=139
>
> I've seen them for less but whoa there's some throughput.
>
> The new comps are really alot faster is so many ways.
> My comp is running with a FSB 1333. Lordy Mama.
>
> Time to clone.
>
> Tom
>
>
>
Re: Updates on computer setup. [message #101550 is a reply to message #101545] Tue, 09 December 2008 23:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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Ran a little audio for the first time. CPU was at
0-3% throughout.

I'll start loading in some plugins and see what happens.



"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:493f4e74$1@linux...
> Guess you won't be able to read that!
> 4 cards are on IRQ 20. That's the good news.
> I didn't want to send a 7mb pic.
>
> By the way I was wrong about the slots that were sharing IRQ 20.
>
> In my box they were 1, 5, 8 & 12. Flat cable 13 slot Magma.
>
> T.
>
>
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:493f4d51@linux...
>> I hope this graphic is legible. This is where I am in the IRQ
>> department.
>> 16 is the only one sharing but sharing heavily. I chose this though
>> because
>> Deej says this new system is very forgiving and I want 18 for the
>> Creamware card.
>> The only other choice I had was 19 which shares with the SATA RAID
>> controller.
>> I figured that would be a bad place to start bottle necking.
>>
>> Speaking of which have you seen these:
>> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-det ails.asp?EdpNo=4177125&CatId=139
>>
>> I've seen them for less but whoa there's some throughput.
>>
>> The new comps are really alot faster is so many ways.
>> My comp is running with a FSB 1333. Lordy Mama.
>>
>> Time to clone.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Updates on computer setup. [message #101551 is a reply to message #101550] Tue, 09 December 2008 23:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerryg is currently offline  kerryg   CANADA
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WoooHOO! Watching this with great interest.

- K

On 12/9/08 11:18 PM, in article 493f713c@linux, "Tom Bruhl"
<arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:

> Ran a little audio for the first time. CPU was at
> 0-3% throughout.
>
> I'll start loading in some plugins and see what happens.


"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
Re: Updates on computer setup. [message #101654 is a reply to message #101551] Tue, 16 December 2008 10:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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Okay, Chris L and Mikes technique got the quad core
working with Paris and C-16s. This is not using Mike's new drivers yet.
Went all night in loop mode with the C-16s showing up after 12 hours.

You may have noticed the Macro Express thread. I can't tell you
how much time that program saves me while working with Paris.
If you're not using it you should be. I developed the macros to
work on my rig. Not sure everyone else's will work perfectly.

Today I plan to get external word clock, three mecs and a 442 working.
Once that's stable I will install the Creamware Pro card then Cubase 4.
Backing up before each new step of course!

Tom


"Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
news:C564AE41.C04C%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
> WoooHOO! Watching this with great interest.
>
> - K
>
> On 12/9/08 11:18 PM, in article 493f713c@linux, "Tom Bruhl"
> <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Ran a little audio for the first time. CPU was at
>> 0-3% throughout.
>>
>> I'll start loading in some plugins and see what happens.
>
Re: Updates on computer setup. [message #101697 is a reply to message #101654] Sat, 20 December 2008 11:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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External clock brings no joy. I will report back after
Mike's drivers are implemented.


"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:4947f4ab$1@linux...
> Okay, Chris L and Mikes technique got the quad core
> working with Paris and C-16s. This is not using Mike's new drivers yet.
> Went all night in loop mode with the C-16s showing up after 12 hours.
>
> You may have noticed the Macro Express thread. I can't tell you
> how much time that program saves me while working with Paris.
> If you're not using it you should be. I developed the macros to
> work on my rig. Not sure everyone else's will work perfectly.
>
> Today I plan to get external word clock, three mecs and a 442 working.
> Once that's stable I will install the Creamware Pro card then Cubase 4.
> Backing up before each new step of course!
>
> Tom
>
>
> "Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
> news:C564AE41.C04C%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>> WoooHOO! Watching this with great interest.
>>
>> - K
>>
>> On 12/9/08 11:18 PM, in article 493f713c@linux, "Tom Bruhl"
>> <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Ran a little audio for the first time. CPU was at
>>> 0-3% throughout.
>>>
>>> I'll start loading in some plugins and see what happens.
>>
>
>
Re: Updates on computer setup. [message #101700 is a reply to message #101697] Sat, 20 December 2008 16:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rod Lincoln is currently offline  Rod Lincoln
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Did you remember to add "Usehousesync" to the config file?
Rod
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>External clock brings no joy. I will report back after
>Mike's drivers are implemented.
>
>
>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:4947f4ab$1@linux...
>> Okay, Chris L and Mikes technique got the quad core
>> working with Paris and C-16s. This is not using Mike's new drivers yet.
>> Went all night in loop mode with the C-16s showing up after 12 hours.
>>
>> You may have noticed the Macro Express thread. I can't tell you
>> how much time that program saves me while working with Paris.
>> If you're not using it you should be. I developed the macros to
>> work on my rig. Not sure everyone else's will work perfectly.
>>
>> Today I plan to get external word clock, three mecs and a 442 working.
>> Once that's stable I will install the Creamware Pro card then Cubase 4.
>> Backing up before each new step of course!
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> "Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
>> news:C564AE41.C04C%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>>> WoooHOO! Watching this with great interest.
>>>
>>> - K
>>>
>>> On 12/9/08 11:18 PM, in article 493f713c@linux, "Tom Bruhl"
>>> <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ran a little audio for the first time. CPU was at
>>>> 0-3% throughout.
>>>>
>>>> I'll start loading in some plugins and see what happens.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Updates on computer setup. [message #101701 is a reply to message #101700] Sat, 20 December 2008 16:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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Hi Rod,

Ya, UseHouseSync=1 still no go. Tom's Hardware fix
for the C-16, int affinity tool too.

I'm having trouble seeing all the mecs and the one 442.
They show in the master position only. Even with
internal sync. I've tried wc cables in series (used to work for me)
and parallel.
Mecs attached to first card-last card, first card-second card.
Nothing, just the master mec. Swapped cables, eds cards
mecs and every thing works except extra mecs.

I am trying Mikes drivers tonight.

This is the same thing that was happening when I started
smoking mecs with a bad scsi2 cable. That was /is reason enough
for me to drop Paris.

I'll get it going one way or another.

Tom




"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:494d7dd2$1@linux...
>
> Did you remember to add "Usehousesync" to the config file?
> Rod
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>External clock brings no joy. I will report back after
>>Mike's drivers are implemented.
>>
>>
>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>news:4947f4ab$1@linux...
>>> Okay, Chris L and Mikes technique got the quad core
>>> working with Paris and C-16s. This is not using Mike's new drivers yet.
>>> Went all night in loop mode with the C-16s showing up after 12 hours.
>>>
>>> You may have noticed the Macro Express thread. I can't tell you
>>> how much time that program saves me while working with Paris.
>>> If you're not using it you should be. I developed the macros to
>>> work on my rig. Not sure everyone else's will work perfectly.
>>>
>>> Today I plan to get external word clock, three mecs and a 442 working.
>>> Once that's stable I will install the Creamware Pro card then Cubase 4.
>>> Backing up before each new step of course!
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>> "Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
>>> news:C564AE41.C04C%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>>>> WoooHOO! Watching this with great interest.
>>>>
>>>> - K
>>>>
>>>> On 12/9/08 11:18 PM, in article 493f713c@linux, "Tom Bruhl"
>>>> <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ran a little audio for the first time. CPU was at
>>>>> 0-3% throughout.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll start loading in some plugins and see what happens.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Updates on computer setup. [message #101719 is a reply to message #101701] Sun, 21 December 2008 15:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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Mike Audet has come to the rescue and made my quad core run
very well with internal clock and two Mecs. Later tonight I will
try the Lucid one more time and add a 442 into the mix.

I will report as soon as I know. Mikes newest PSCL ver1.01 and
Scherzo drivers are a must to make this setup work. No other
work arounds are needed anymore.

Tom


"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:494d8bf3$1@linux...
> Hi Rod,
>
> Ya, UseHouseSync=1 still no go. Tom's Hardware fix
> for the C-16, int affinity tool too.
>
> I'm having trouble seeing all the mecs and the one 442.
> They show in the master position only. Even with
> internal sync. I've tried wc cables in series (used to work for me)
> and parallel.
> Mecs attached to first card-last card, first card-second card.
> Nothing, just the master mec. Swapped cables, eds cards
> mecs and every thing works except extra mecs.
>
> I am trying Mikes drivers tonight.
>
> This is the same thing that was happening when I started
> smoking mecs with a bad scsi2 cable. That was /is reason enough
> for me to drop Paris.
>
> I'll get it going one way or another.
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:494d7dd2$1@linux...
>>
>> Did you remember to add "Usehousesync" to the config file?
>> Rod
>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>External clock brings no joy. I will report back after
>>>Mike's drivers are implemented.
>>>
>>>
>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>news:4947f4ab$1@linux...
>>>> Okay, Chris L and Mikes technique got the quad core
>>>> working with Paris and C-16s. This is not using Mike's new drivers
>>>> yet.
>>>> Went all night in loop mode with the C-16s showing up after 12 hours.
>>>>
>>>> You may have noticed the Macro Express thread. I can't tell you
>>>> how much time that program saves me while working with Paris.
>>>> If you're not using it you should be. I developed the macros to
>>>> work on my rig. Not sure everyone else's will work perfectly.
>>>>
>>>> Today I plan to get external word clock, three mecs and a 442 working.
>>>> Once that's stable I will install the Creamware Pro card then Cubase 4.
>>>> Backing up before each new step of course!
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:C564AE41.C04C%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>>>>> WoooHOO! Watching this with great interest.
>>>>>
>>>>> - K
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/9/08 11:18 PM, in article 493f713c@linux, "Tom Bruhl"
>>>>> <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ran a little audio for the first time. CPU was at
>>>>>> 0-3% throughout.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll start loading in some plugins and see what happens.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Re: Updates on computer setup. [message #101722 is a reply to message #101719] Sun, 21 December 2008 20:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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Are you using multiple Adat cards with the adat updated drivers, per chance?
AA


"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:494ed5a4@linux...
> Mike Audet has come to the rescue and made my quad core run
> very well with internal clock and two Mecs. Later tonight I will
> try the Lucid one more time and add a 442 into the mix.
>
> I will report as soon as I know. Mikes newest PSCL ver1.01 and
> Scherzo drivers are a must to make this setup work. No other
> work arounds are needed anymore.
>
> Tom
>
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:494d8bf3$1@linux...
>> Hi Rod,
>>
>> Ya, UseHouseSync=1 still no go. Tom's Hardware fix
>> for the C-16, int affinity tool too.
>>
>> I'm having trouble seeing all the mecs and the one 442.
>> They show in the master position only. Even with
>> internal sync. I've tried wc cables in series (used to work for me)
>> and parallel.
>> Mecs attached to first card-last card, first card-second card.
>> Nothing, just the master mec. Swapped cables, eds cards
>> mecs and every thing works except extra mecs.
>>
>> I am trying Mikes drivers tonight.
>>
>> This is the same thing that was happening when I started
>> smoking mecs with a bad scsi2 cable. That was /is reason enough
>> for me to drop Paris.
>>
>> I'll get it going one way or another.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:494d7dd2$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Did you remember to add "Usehousesync" to the config file?
>>> Rod
>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>External clock brings no joy. I will report back after
>>>>Mike's drivers are implemented.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:4947f4ab$1@linux...
>>>>> Okay, Chris L and Mikes technique got the quad core
>>>>> working with Paris and C-16s. This is not using Mike's new drivers
>>>>> yet.
>>>>> Went all night in loop mode with the C-16s showing up after 12 hours.
>>>>>
>>>>> You may have noticed the Macro Express thread. I can't tell you
>>>>> how much time that program saves me while working with Paris.
>>>>> If you're not using it you should be. I developed the macros to
>>>>> work on my rig. Not sure everyone else's will work perfectly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Today I plan to get external word clock, three mecs and a 442 working.
>>>>> Once that's stable I will install the Creamware Pro card then Cubase
>>>>> 4.
>>>>> Backing up before each new step of course!
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:C564AE41.C04C%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>>>>>> WoooHOO! Watching this with great interest.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - K
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/9/08 11:18 PM, in article 493f713c@linux, "Tom Bruhl"
>>>>>> <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ran a little audio for the first time. CPU was at
>>>>>>> 0-3% throughout.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll start loading in some plugins and see what happens.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Updates on computer setup. [message #101729 is a reply to message #101722] Mon, 22 December 2008 03:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mike Audet is currently offline  Mike Audet   CANADA
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Aaron Allen wrote:
> Are you using multiple Adat cards with the adat updated drivers, per chance?
> AA
>
Hi Aaron,

Have you tried that yet, or are you just considering trying it?

If there are any issues, I want to fix them. :)

All the best,

Mike
Re: Updates on computer setup. [message #101730 is a reply to message #101729] Mon, 22 December 2008 06:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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A new box is in consideration, and maybe a few more adat cards to link up my
Creamware setup to it.

AA

"Mike Audet" <mike@mikeaudet.com> wrote in message news:494f81fa$1@linux...
> Aaron Allen wrote:
>> Are you using multiple Adat cards with the adat updated drivers, per
>> chance?
>> AA
>>
> Hi Aaron,
>
> Have you tried that yet, or are you just considering trying it?
>
> If there are any issues, I want to fix them. :)
>
> All the best,
>
> Mike
Re: Updates on computer setup. [message #101732 is a reply to message #101730] Mon, 22 December 2008 07:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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I'll slap two adats into MEC 2 and see what happens for you guys.

Tom


"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:494fa209@linux...
>A new box is in consideration, and maybe a few more adat cards to link up
>my Creamware setup to it.
>
> AA
>
> "Mike Audet" <mike@mikeaudet.com> wrote in message
> news:494f81fa$1@linux...
>> Aaron Allen wrote:
>>> Are you using multiple Adat cards with the adat updated drivers, per
>>> chance?
>>> AA
>>>
>> Hi Aaron,
>>
>> Have you tried that yet, or are you just considering trying it?
>>
>> If there are any issues, I want to fix them. :)
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Mike
>
>
Re: Updates on computer setup. [message #101736 is a reply to message #101732] Mon, 22 December 2008 09:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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Two ADATs show up in Mec 2 in a 5 eds card -
two mec setup using a quad core. One ADAT
also was installed in Mec 1 at the time. I can't
confirm ADAT sync at this time but the gui operated
as expected in the patchbay.

I'll need to pick up a creamware sync plate for that test.
I may try the adat machine after all is well here.

Tom


"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:494faffc@linux...
> I'll slap two adats into MEC 2 and see what happens for you guys.
>
> Tom
>
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
> news:494fa209@linux...
>>A new box is in consideration, and maybe a few more adat cards to link up
>>my Creamware setup to it.
>>
>> AA
>>
>> "Mike Audet" <mike@mikeaudet.com> wrote in message
>> news:494f81fa$1@linux...
>>> Aaron Allen wrote:
>>>> Are you using multiple Adat cards with the adat updated drivers, per
>>>> chance?
>>>> AA
>>>>
>>> Hi Aaron,
>>>
>>> Have you tried that yet, or are you just considering trying it?
>>>
>>> If there are any issues, I want to fix them. :)
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>> Mike
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Updates on computer setup. [message #101838 is a reply to message #101736] Mon, 29 December 2008 14:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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Well everyone, Mike has saved the day by updating the
PSCL for me in particular. I was receiving a new error
never seen before. After more than a few trys Mike seems
to have nailed it. Again no funny workarounds with XP Pro,
2 mecs, 5 eds, Magma, UAD-2, Quadcore, etc..

I will continue loading plugins then finally add the Creamware card.

1 EDS card is sharing with video, USB controllers and a few other
less important things. Not a glitch in operation and the beast is smooth
and stable. Config in Paris is 64, 160, 210,000. I know, weird but
not an error in sight and that's dragging 10 tracks in time all over the
editor and dropping them whereva... while it's playing 24 tracks with edits.
The gui is displaying at the sample level on 4 submixes too.

I think you will all like this very very much.

Happy as a lark,
Tom



"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:494fd4d4$1@linux...
> Two ADATs show up in Mec 2 in a 5 eds card -
> two mec setup using a quad core. One ADAT
> also was installed in Mec 1 at the time. I can't
> confirm ADAT sync at this time but the gui operated
> as expected in the patchbay.
>
> I'll need to pick up a creamware sync plate for that test.
> I may try the adat machine after all is well here.
>
> Tom
>
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:494faffc@linux...
>> I'll slap two adats into MEC 2 and see what happens for you guys.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>> news:494fa209@linux...
>>>A new box is in consideration, and maybe a few more adat cards to link up
>>>my Creamware setup to it.
>>>
>>> AA
>>>
>>> "Mike Audet" <mike@mikeaudet.com> wrote in message
>>> news:494f81fa$1@linux...
>>>> Aaron Allen wrote:
>>>>> Are you using multiple Adat cards with the adat updated drivers, per
>>>>> chance?
>>>>> AA
>>>>>
>>>> Hi Aaron,
>>>>
>>>> Have you tried that yet, or are you just considering trying it?
>>>>
>>>> If there are any issues, I want to fix them. :)
>>>>
>>>> All the best,
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Updates on computer setup. [message #101839 is a reply to message #101838] Mon, 29 December 2008 18:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerryg is currently offline  kerryg   CANADA
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Huge news, Tom - congratulations, and thanks for trailblazing for everyone!
I'll be watching the process with extreme interest - my production buddy is
all PC and he wants to have a pretty brawny computer in the studio, so this
couldn't have come at a better time for me.

Mike, looks like you hit it out of the park.

- K


On 12/29/08 2:06 PM, in article 49594d55@linux, "Tom Bruhl"
<arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:

> Well everyone, Mike has saved the day by updating the
> PSCL for me in particular. I was receiving a new error
> never seen before. After more than a few trys Mike seems
> to have nailed it. Again no funny workarounds with XP Pro,
> 2 mecs, 5 eds, Magma, UAD-2, Quadcore, etc..
>
> I will continue loading plugins then finally add the Creamware card.
>
> 1 EDS card is sharing with video, USB controllers and a few other
> less important things. Not a glitch in operation and the beast is smooth
> and stable. Config in Paris is 64, 160, 210,000. I know, weird but
> not an error in sight and that's dragging 10 tracks in time all over the
> editor and dropping them whereva... while it's playing 24 tracks with edits.
> The gui is displaying at the sample level on 4 submixes too.
>
> I think you will all like this very very much.
>
> Happy as a lark,
> Tom
>
>
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:494fd4d4$1@linux...
>> Two ADATs show up in Mec 2 in a 5 eds card -
>> two mec setup using a quad core. One ADAT
>> also was installed in Mec 1 at the time. I can't
>> confirm ADAT sync at this time but the gui operated
>> as expected in the patchbay.
>>
>> I'll need to pick up a creamware sync plate for that test.
>> I may try the adat machine after all is well here.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:494faffc@linux...
>>> I'll slap two adats into MEC 2 and see what happens for you guys.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>> news:494fa209@linux...
>>>> A new box is in consideration, and maybe a few more adat cards to link up
>>>> my Creamware setup to it.
>>>>
>>>> AA
>>>>
>>>> "Mike Audet" <mike@mikeaudet.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:494f81fa$1@linux...
>>>>> Aaron Allen wrote:
>>>>>> Are you using multiple Adat cards with the adat updated drivers, per
>>>>>> chance?
>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Aaron,
>>>>>
>>>>> Have you tried that yet, or are you just considering trying it?
>>>>>
>>>>> If there are any issues, I want to fix them. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>


"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
Re: Updates on computer setup. [message #101840 is a reply to message #101839] Mon, 29 December 2008 20:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
Senior Member
Hi Kerry,

Ya Mike is a major league player regarding Paris that's for sure.
I have been installing many plugins and
so far with great success. I am about to wrap them and see
how they function. Many are DX and work right out of the
box. Some of the VSTs do too. The Waves SSL is sweet
and didn't show it's quirky display problem that shut the
transport down in my old comp. There is a driver update
for some video cards because of it.

I am going back at it and will try to make it quit from
abuse again only this time with as many SIRs as I can get
going as inserts. This should be fun!

I'll post back.
Tom



"Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
news:C57ECC48.C1AF%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
> Huge news, Tom - congratulations, and thanks for trailblazing for
> everyone!
> I'll be watching the process with extreme interest - my production buddy
> is
> all PC and he wants to have a pretty brawny computer in the studio, so
> this
> couldn't have come at a better time for me.
>
> Mike, looks like you hit it out of the park.
>
> - K
>
>
> On 12/29/08 2:06 PM, in article 49594d55@linux, "Tom Bruhl"
> <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Well everyone, Mike has saved the day by updating the
>> PSCL for me in particular. I was receiving a new error
>> never seen before. After more than a few trys Mike seems
>> to have nailed it. Again no funny workarounds with XP Pro,
>> 2 mecs, 5 eds, Magma, UAD-2, Quadcore, etc..
>>
>> I will continue loading plugins then finally add the Creamware card.
>>
>> 1 EDS card is sharing with video, USB controllers and a few other
>> less important things. Not a glitch in operation and the beast is smooth
>> and stable. Config in Paris is 64, 160, 210,000. I know, weird but
>> not an error in sight and that's dragging 10 tracks in time all over the
>> editor and dropping them whereva... while it's playing 24 tracks with
>> edits.
>> The gui is displaying at the sample level on 4 submixes too.
>>
>> I think you will all like this very very much.
>>
>> Happy as a lark,
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:494fd4d4$1@linux...
>>> Two ADATs show up in Mec 2 in a 5 eds card -
>>> two mec setup using a quad core. One ADAT
>>> also was installed in Mec 1 at the time. I can't
>>> confirm ADAT sync at this time but the gui operated
>>> as expected in the patchbay.
>>>
>>> I'll need to pick up a creamware sync plate for that test.
>>> I may try the adat machine after all is well here.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:494faffc@linux...
>>>> I'll slap two adats into MEC 2 and see what happens for you guys.
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>> news:494fa209@linux...
>>>>> A new box is in consideration, and maybe a few more adat cards to link
>>>>> up
>>>>> my Creamware setup to it.
>>>>>
>>>>> AA
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mike Audet" <mike@mikeaudet.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:494f81fa$1@linux...
>>>>>> Aaron Allen wrote:
>>>>>>> Are you using multiple Adat cards with the adat updated drivers, per
>>>>>>> chance?
>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Aaron,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have you tried that yet, or are you just considering trying it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If there are any issues, I want to fix them. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Grunt Test #1 [message #101841 is a reply to message #101840] Mon, 29 December 2008 23:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
Senior Member
Grunt test #1:
24 track mix with silly amounts of plugins.

I added 12 mono instances of SIR. 1 Autotune.
4 drumagog, 1 editor at sample level showing 6 tracks.
CPU averaged between 16-25%. If this can all be doubled
and raise the average to 50% CPU I think we'll be in good
shape with these newfangled computers. I use primarily
UAD comps and eqs so I'm not too worried anyway.
Of course there were Paris plugs all over the place too.

I did encounter a crazy error trying to install a stereo SIR
across unequal length tracks. That's to be expected still.
All plugs were loaded while the transport was running.
Autotune made the transport stop but not SIR.

Next I will install Cubase and lock with Paris. Those soft synths
should give it a work out.

Ha ha ha hahahahahaaaaaa,
T.


"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:4959a14a@linux...
> Hi Kerry,
>
> Ya Mike is a major league player regarding Paris that's for sure.
> I have been installing many plugins and
> so far with great success. I am about to wrap them and see
> how they function. Many are DX and work right out of the
> box. Some of the VSTs do too. The Waves SSL is sweet
> and didn't show it's quirky display problem that shut the
> transport down in my old comp. There is a driver update
> for some video cards because of it.
>
> I am going back at it and will try to make it quit from
> abuse again only this time with as many SIRs as I can get
> going as inserts. This should be fun!
>
> I'll post back.
> Tom
>
>
>
> "Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
> news:C57ECC48.C1AF%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>> Huge news, Tom - congratulations, and thanks for trailblazing for
>> everyone!
>> I'll be watching the process with extreme interest - my production buddy
>> is
>> all PC and he wants to have a pretty brawny computer in the studio, so
>> this
>> couldn't have come at a better time for me.
>>
>> Mike, looks like you hit it out of the park.
>>
>> - K
>>
>>
>> On 12/29/08 2:06 PM, in article 49594d55@linux, "Tom Bruhl"
>> <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Well everyone, Mike has saved the day by updating the
>>> PSCL for me in particular. I was receiving a new error
>>> never seen before. After more than a few trys Mike seems
>>> to have nailed it. Again no funny workarounds with XP Pro,
>>> 2 mecs, 5 eds, Magma, UAD-2, Quadcore, etc..
>>>
>>> I will continue loading plugins then finally add the Creamware card.
>>>
>>> 1 EDS card is sharing with video, USB controllers and a few other
>>> less important things. Not a glitch in operation and the beast is
>>> smooth
>>> and stable. Config in Paris is 64, 160, 210,000. I know, weird but
>>> not an error in sight and that's dragging 10 tracks in time all over the
>>> editor and dropping them whereva... while it's playing 24 tracks with
>>> edits.
>>> The gui is displaying at the sample level on 4 submixes too.
>>>
>>> I think you will all like this very very much.
>>>
>>> Happy as a lark,
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:494fd4d4$1@linux...
>>>> Two ADATs show up in Mec 2 in a 5 eds card -
>>>> two mec setup using a quad core. One ADAT
>>>> also was installed in Mec 1 at the time. I can't
>>>> confirm ADAT sync at this time but the gui operated
>>>> as expected in the patchbay.
>>>>
>>>> I'll need to pick up a creamware sync plate for that test.
>>>> I may try the adat machine after all is well here.
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:494faffc@linux...
>>>>> I'll slap two adats into MEC 2 and see what happens for you guys.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>> news:494fa209@linux...
>>>>>> A new box is in consideration, and maybe a few more adat cards to
>>>>>> link up
>>>>>> my Creamware setup to it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Mike Audet" <mike@mikeaudet.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:494f81fa$1@linux...
>>>>>>> Aaron Allen wrote:
>>>>>>>> Are you using multiple Adat cards with the adat updated drivers,
>>>>>>>> per
>>>>>>>> chance?
>>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Aaron,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have you tried that yet, or are you just considering trying it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If there are any issues, I want to fix them. :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Re: Grunt Test #1 [message #101842 is a reply to message #101841] Mon, 29 December 2008 23:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
Senior Member
Just curious... are there any latency changes in native or UAD plugs with
the new rig or have those remained consistent at previous values?

AA


"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:4959d112@linux...
> Grunt test #1:
> 24 track mix with silly amounts of plugins.
>
> I added 12 mono instances of SIR. 1 Autotune.
> 4 drumagog, 1 editor at sample level showing 6 tracks.
> CPU averaged between 16-25%. If this can all be doubled
> and raise the average to 50% CPU I think we'll be in good
> shape with these newfangled computers. I use primarily
> UAD comps and eqs so I'm not too worried anyway.
> Of course there were Paris plugs all over the place too.
>
> I did encounter a crazy error trying to install a stereo SIR
> across unequal length tracks. That's to be expected still.
> All plugs were loaded while the transport was running.
> Autotune made the transport stop but not SIR.
>
> Next I will install Cubase and lock with Paris. Those soft synths
> should give it a work out.
>
> Ha ha ha hahahahahaaaaaa,
> T.
>
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:4959a14a@linux...
>> Hi Kerry,
>>
>> Ya Mike is a major league player regarding Paris that's for sure.
>> I have been installing many plugins and
>> so far with great success. I am about to wrap them and see
>> how they function. Many are DX and work right out of the
>> box. Some of the VSTs do too. The Waves SSL is sweet
>> and didn't show it's quirky display problem that shut the
>> transport down in my old comp. There is a driver update
>> for some video cards because of it.
>>
>> I am going back at it and will try to make it quit from
>> abuse again only this time with as many SIRs as I can get
>> going as inserts. This should be fun!
>>
>> I'll post back.
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
>> "Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
>> news:C57ECC48.C1AF%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>>> Huge news, Tom - congratulations, and thanks for trailblazing for
>>> everyone!
>>> I'll be watching the process with extreme interest - my production buddy
>>> is
>>> all PC and he wants to have a pretty brawny computer in the studio, so
>>> this
>>> couldn't have come at a better time for me.
>>>
>>> Mike, looks like you hit it out of the park.
>>>
>>> - K
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/29/08 2:06 PM, in article 49594d55@linux, "Tom Bruhl"
>>> <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well everyone, Mike has saved the day by updating the
>>>> PSCL for me in particular. I was receiving a new error
>>>> never seen before. After more than a few trys Mike seems
>>>> to have nailed it. Again no funny workarounds with XP Pro,
>>>> 2 mecs, 5 eds, Magma, UAD-2, Quadcore, etc..
>>>>
>>>> I will continue loading plugins then finally add the Creamware card.
>>>>
>>>> 1 EDS card is sharing with video, USB controllers and a few other
>>>> less important things. Not a glitch in operation and the beast is
>>>> smooth
>>>> and stable. Config in Paris is 64, 160, 210,000. I know, weird but
>>>> not an error in sight and that's dragging 10 tracks in time all over
>>>> the
>>>> editor and dropping them whereva... while it's playing 24 tracks with
>>>> edits.
>>>> The gui is displaying at the sample level on 4 submixes too.
>>>>
>>>> I think you will all like this very very much.
>>>>
>>>> Happy as a lark,
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:494fd4d4$1@linux...
>>>>> Two ADATs show up in Mec 2 in a 5 eds card -
>>>>> two mec setup using a quad core. One ADAT
>>>>> also was installed in Mec 1 at the time. I can't
>>>>> confirm ADAT sync at this time but the gui operated
>>>>> as expected in the patchbay.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll need to pick up a creamware sync plate for that test.
>>>>> I may try the adat machine after all is well here.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:494faffc@linux...
>>>>>> I'll slap two adats into MEC 2 and see what happens for you guys.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:494fa209@linux...
>>>>>>> A new box is in consideration, and maybe a few more adat cards to
>>>>>>> link up
>>>>>>> my Creamware setup to it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Mike Audet" <mike@mikeaudet.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:494f81fa$1@linux...
>>>>>>>> Aaron Allen wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Are you using multiple Adat cards with the adat updated drivers,
>>>>>>>>> per
>>>>>>>>> chance?
>>>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Aaron,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Have you tried that yet, or are you just considering trying it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If there are any issues, I want to fix them. :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Grunt Test #1 [message #101843 is a reply to message #101842] Mon, 29 December 2008 23:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
Senior Member
Aaron,

SIR was the same to the ear.

I wondered the same thing. I haven't got Faderworks
installed yet. That's tomorrow. I think it remains the
same though.

Tom




"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:4959d4a7$1@linux...
> Just curious... are there any latency changes in native or UAD plugs with
> the new rig or have those remained consistent at previous values?
>
> AA
>
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:4959d112@linux...
>> Grunt test #1:
>> 24 track mix with silly amounts of plugins.
>>
>> I added 12 mono instances of SIR. 1 Autotune.
>> 4 drumagog, 1 editor at sample level showing 6 tracks.
>> CPU averaged between 16-25%. If this can all be doubled
>> and raise the average to 50% CPU I think we'll be in good
>> shape with these newfangled computers. I use primarily
>> UAD comps and eqs so I'm not too worried anyway.
>> Of course there were Paris plugs all over the place too.
>>
>> I did encounter a crazy error trying to install a stereo SIR
>> across unequal length tracks. That's to be expected still.
>> All plugs were loaded while the transport was running.
>> Autotune made the transport stop but not SIR.
>>
>> Next I will install Cubase and lock with Paris. Those soft synths
>> should give it a work out.
>>
>> Ha ha ha hahahahahaaaaaa,
>> T.
>>
>>
>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:4959a14a@linux...
>>> Hi Kerry,
>>>
>>> Ya Mike is a major league player regarding Paris that's for sure.
>>> I have been installing many plugins and
>>> so far with great success. I am about to wrap them and see
>>> how they function. Many are DX and work right out of the
>>> box. Some of the VSTs do too. The Waves SSL is sweet
>>> and didn't show it's quirky display problem that shut the
>>> transport down in my old comp. There is a driver update
>>> for some video cards because of it.
>>>
>>> I am going back at it and will try to make it quit from
>>> abuse again only this time with as many SIRs as I can get
>>> going as inserts. This should be fun!
>>>
>>> I'll post back.
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
>>> news:C57ECC48.C1AF%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>>>> Huge news, Tom - congratulations, and thanks for trailblazing for
>>>> everyone!
>>>> I'll be watching the process with extreme interest - my production
>>>> buddy is
>>>> all PC and he wants to have a pretty brawny computer in the studio, so
>>>> this
>>>> couldn't have come at a better time for me.
>>>>
>>>> Mike, looks like you hit it out of the park.
>>>>
>>>> - K
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12/29/08 2:06 PM, in article 49594d55@linux, "Tom Bruhl"
>>>> <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well everyone, Mike has saved the day by updating the
>>>>> PSCL for me in particular. I was receiving a new error
>>>>> never seen before. After more than a few trys Mike seems
>>>>> to have nailed it. Again no funny workarounds with XP Pro,
>>>>> 2 mecs, 5 eds, Magma, UAD-2, Quadcore, etc..
>>>>>
>>>>> I will continue loading plugins then finally add the Creamware card.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1 EDS card is sharing with video, USB controllers and a few other
>>>>> less important things. Not a glitch in operation and the beast is
>>>>> smooth
>>>>> and stable. Config in Paris is 64, 160, 210,000. I know, weird but
>>>>> not an error in sight and that's dragging 10 tracks in time all over
>>>>> the
>>>>> editor and dropping them whereva... while it's playing 24 tracks with
>>>>> edits.
>>>>> The gui is displaying at the sample level on 4 submixes too.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think you will all like this very very much.
>>>>>
>>>>> Happy as a lark,
>>>>> Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:494fd4d4$1@linux...
>>>>>> Two ADATs show up in Mec 2 in a 5 eds card -
>>>>>> two mec setup using a quad core. One ADAT
>>>>>> also was installed in Mec 1 at the time. I can't
>>>>>> confirm ADAT sync at this time but the gui operated
>>>>>> as expected in the patchbay.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll need to pick up a creamware sync plate for that test.
>>>>>> I may try the adat machine after all is well here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:494faffc@linux...
>>>>>>> I'll slap two adats into MEC 2 and see what happens for you guys.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:494fa209@linux...
>>>>>>>> A new box is in consideration, and maybe a few more adat cards to
>>>>>>>> link up
>>>>>>>> my Creamware setup to it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Mike Audet" <mike@mikeaudet.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:494f81fa$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>> Aaron Allen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Are you using multiple Adat cards with the adat updated drivers,
>>>>>>>>>> per
>>>>>>>>>> chance?
>>>>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Aaron,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Have you tried that yet, or are you just considering trying it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If there are any issues, I want to fix them. :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Grunt Test #1 [message #101848 is a reply to message #101843] Wed, 31 December 2008 11:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
Senior Member
All plugs are in Paris, wrapped and working with a UAD-2 and UAD-1 ver 5.2.
Paris is working like a champ now. FaderWorks 1.4 is also a savior.
Backup is done. Cubase 4, Creamware 4.5 and Kontakt 3 are next.

I'll be back at it after the new year gigs are done. Have a good one guys
and gals.

Tom


"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:4959d71c@linux...
> Aaron,
>
> SIR was the same to the ear.
>
> I wondered the same thing. I haven't got Faderworks
> installed yet. That's tomorrow. I think it remains the
> same though.
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
> news:4959d4a7$1@linux...
>> Just curious... are there any latency changes in native or UAD plugs with
>> the new rig or have those remained consistent at previous values?
>>
>> AA
>>
>>
>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:4959d112@linux...
>>> Grunt test #1:
>>> 24 track mix with silly amounts of plugins.
>>>
>>> I added 12 mono instances of SIR. 1 Autotune.
>>> 4 drumagog, 1 editor at sample level showing 6 tracks.
>>> CPU averaged between 16-25%. If this can all be doubled
>>> and raise the average to 50% CPU I think we'll be in good
>>> shape with these newfangled computers. I use primarily
>>> UAD comps and eqs so I'm not too worried anyway.
>>> Of course there were Paris plugs all over the place too.
>>>
>>> I did encounter a crazy error trying to install a stereo SIR
>>> across unequal length tracks. That's to be expected still.
>>> All plugs were loaded while the transport was running.
>>> Autotune made the transport stop but not SIR.
>>>
>>> Next I will install Cubase and lock with Paris. Those soft synths
>>> should give it a work out.
>>>
>>> Ha ha ha hahahahahaaaaaa,
>>> T.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:4959a14a@linux...
>>>> Hi Kerry,
>>>>
>>>> Ya Mike is a major league player regarding Paris that's for sure.
>>>> I have been installing many plugins and
>>>> so far with great success. I am about to wrap them and see
>>>> how they function. Many are DX and work right out of the
>>>> box. Some of the VSTs do too. The Waves SSL is sweet
>>>> and didn't show it's quirky display problem that shut the
>>>> transport down in my old comp. There is a driver update
>>>> for some video cards because of it.
>>>>
>>>> I am going back at it and will try to make it quit from
>>>> abuse again only this time with as many SIRs as I can get
>>>> going as inserts. This should be fun!
>>>>
>>>> I'll post back.
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:C57ECC48.C1AF%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>>>>> Huge news, Tom - congratulations, and thanks for trailblazing for
>>>>> everyone!
>>>>> I'll be watching the process with extreme interest - my production
>>>>> buddy is
>>>>> all PC and he wants to have a pretty brawny computer in the studio, so
>>>>> this
>>>>> couldn't have come at a better time for me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike, looks like you hit it out of the park.
>>>>>
>>>>> - K
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/29/08 2:06 PM, in article 49594d55@linux, "Tom Bruhl"
>>>>> <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well everyone, Mike has saved the day by updating the
>>>>>> PSCL for me in particular. I was receiving a new error
>>>>>> never seen before. After more than a few trys Mike seems
>>>>>> to have nailed it. Again no funny workarounds with XP Pro,
>>>>>> 2 mecs, 5 eds, Magma, UAD-2, Quadcore, etc..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will continue loading plugins then finally add the Creamware card.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1 EDS card is sharing with video, USB controllers and a few other
>>>>>> less important things. Not a glitch in operation and the beast is
>>>>>> smooth
>>>>>> and stable. Config in Paris is 64, 160, 210,000. I know, weird but
>>>>>> not an error in sight and that's dragging 10 tracks in time all over
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> editor and dropping them whereva... while it's playing 24 tracks with
>>>>>> edits.
>>>>>> The gui is displaying at the sample level on 4 submixes too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think you will all like this very very much.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Happy as a lark,
>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:494fd4d4$1@linux...
>>>>>>> Two ADATs show up in Mec 2 in a 5 eds card -
>>>>>>> two mec setup using a quad core. One ADAT
>>>>>>> also was installed in Mec 1 at the time. I can't
>>>>>>> confirm ADAT sync at this time but the gui operated
>>>>>>> as expected in the patchbay.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll need to pick up a creamware sync plate for that test.
>>>>>>> I may try the adat machine after all is well here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:494faffc@linux...
>>>>>>>> I'll slap two adats into MEC 2 and see what happens for you guys.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:494fa209@linux...
>>>>>>>>> A new box is in consideration, and maybe a few more adat cards to
>>>>>>>>> link up
>>>>>>>>> my Creamware setup to it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Mike Audet" <mike@mikeaudet.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:494f81fa$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>> Aaron Allen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Are you using multiple Adat cards with the adat updated drivers,
>>>>>>>>>>> per
>>>>>>>>>>> chance?
>>>>>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Aaron,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Have you tried that yet, or are you just considering trying it?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If there are any issues, I want to fix them. :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Grunt Test #1 [message #101874 is a reply to message #101848] Fri, 02 January 2009 22:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
Senior Member
Creamware install not easy or working.
Waiting for tech support.

Probably all my fault.
Tom


"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:495bcc27$1@linux...
> All plugs are in Paris, wrapped and working with a UAD-2 and UAD-1 ver
> 5.2.
> Paris is working like a champ now. FaderWorks 1.4 is also a savior.
> Backup is done. Cubase 4, Creamware 4.5 and Kontakt 3 are next.
>
> I'll be back at it after the new year gigs are done. Have a good one guys
> and gals.
>
> Tom
>
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:4959d71c@linux...
>> Aaron,
>>
>> SIR was the same to the ear.
>>
>> I wondered the same thing. I haven't got Faderworks
>> installed yet. That's tomorrow. I think it remains the
>> same though.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>> news:4959d4a7$1@linux...
>>> Just curious... are there any latency changes in native or UAD plugs
>>> with the new rig or have those remained consistent at previous values?
>>>
>>> AA
>>>
>>>
>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:4959d112@linux...
>>>> Grunt test #1:
>>>> 24 track mix with silly amounts of plugins.
>>>>
>>>> I added 12 mono instances of SIR. 1 Autotune.
>>>> 4 drumagog, 1 editor at sample level showing 6 tracks.
>>>> CPU averaged between 16-25%. If this can all be doubled
>>>> and raise the average to 50% CPU I think we'll be in good
>>>> shape with these newfangled computers. I use primarily
>>>> UAD comps and eqs so I'm not too worried anyway.
>>>> Of course there were Paris plugs all over the place too.
>>>>
>>>> I did encounter a crazy error trying to install a stereo SIR
>>>> across unequal length tracks. That's to be expected still.
>>>> All plugs were loaded while the transport was running.
>>>> Autotune made the transport stop but not SIR.
>>>>
>>>> Next I will install Cubase and lock with Paris. Those soft synths
>>>> should give it a work out.
>>>>
>>>> Ha ha ha hahahahahaaaaaa,
>>>> T.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:4959a14a@linux...
>>>>> Hi Kerry,
>>>>>
>>>>> Ya Mike is a major league player regarding Paris that's for sure.
>>>>> I have been installing many plugins and
>>>>> so far with great success. I am about to wrap them and see
>>>>> how they function. Many are DX and work right out of the
>>>>> box. Some of the VSTs do too. The Waves SSL is sweet
>>>>> and didn't show it's quirky display problem that shut the
>>>>> transport down in my old comp. There is a driver update
>>>>> for some video cards because of it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am going back at it and will try to make it quit from
>>>>> abuse again only this time with as many SIRs as I can get
>>>>> going as inserts. This should be fun!
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll post back.
>>>>> Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:C57ECC48.C1AF%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>>>>>> Huge news, Tom - congratulations, and thanks for trailblazing for
>>>>>> everyone!
>>>>>> I'll be watching the process with extreme interest - my production
>>>>>> buddy is
>>>>>> all PC and he wants to have a pretty brawny computer in the studio,
>>>>>> so this
>>>>>> couldn't have come at a better time for me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike, looks like you hit it out of the park.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - K
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/29/08 2:06 PM, in article 49594d55@linux, "Tom Bruhl"
>>>>>> <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well everyone, Mike has saved the day by updating the
>>>>>>> PSCL for me in particular. I was receiving a new error
>>>>>>> never seen before. After more than a few trys Mike seems
>>>>>>> to have nailed it. Again no funny workarounds with XP Pro,
>>>>>>> 2 mecs, 5 eds, Magma, UAD-2, Quadcore, etc..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will continue loading plugins then finally add the Creamware card.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1 EDS card is sharing with video, USB controllers and a few other
>>>>>>> less important things. Not a glitch in operation and the beast is
>>>>>>> smooth
>>>>>>> and stable. Config in Paris is 64, 160, 210,000. I know, weird
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> not an error in sight and that's dragging 10 tracks in time all over
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> editor and dropping them whereva... while it's playing 24 tracks
>>>>>>> with edits.
>>>>>>> The gui is displaying at the sample level on 4 submixes too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think you will all like this very very much.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Happy as a lark,
>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:494fd4d4$1@linux...
>>>>>>>> Two ADATs show up in Mec 2 in a 5 eds card -
>>>>>>>> two mec setup using a quad core. One ADAT
>>>>>>>> also was installed in Mec 1 at the time. I can't
>>>>>>>> confirm ADAT sync at this time but the gui operated
>>>>>>>> as expected in the patchbay.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll need to pick up a creamware sync plate for that test.
>>>>>>>> I may try the adat machine after all is well here.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:494faffc@linux...
>>>>>>>>> I'll slap two adats into MEC 2 and see what happens for you guys.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:494fa209@linux...
>>>>>>>>>> A new box is in consideration, and maybe a few more adat cards to
>>>>>>>>>> link up
>>>>>>>>>> my Creamware setup to it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Mike Audet" <mike@mikeaudet.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:494f81fa$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>> Aaron Allen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you using multiple Adat cards with the adat updated
>>>>>>>>>>>> drivers, per
>>>>>>>>>>>> chance?
>>>>>>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Aaron,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Have you tried that yet, or are you just considering trying it?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If there are any issues, I want to fix them. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Grunt Test #1 [message #101876 is a reply to message #101874] Fri, 02 January 2009 23:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
Senior Member
If I remember right their idea of copy protection is pretty goofy and
unfriendly to the end user. Although, NOTHING like the crap Tascam/Giga has
put me through. Hang in there bro, I'm sure you'll nail it down.

AA


"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:495f03fc@linux...
> Creamware install not easy or working.
> Waiting for tech support.
>
> Probably all my fault.
> Tom
>
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:495bcc27$1@linux...
>> All plugs are in Paris, wrapped and working with a UAD-2 and UAD-1 ver
>> 5.2.
>> Paris is working like a champ now. FaderWorks 1.4 is also a savior.
>> Backup is done. Cubase 4, Creamware 4.5 and Kontakt 3 are next.
>>
>> I'll be back at it after the new year gigs are done. Have a good one
>> guys and gals.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:4959d71c@linux...
>>> Aaron,
>>>
>>> SIR was the same to the ear.
>>>
>>> I wondered the same thing. I haven't got Faderworks
>>> installed yet. That's tomorrow. I think it remains the
>>> same though.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>> news:4959d4a7$1@linux...
>>>> Just curious... are there any latency changes in native or UAD plugs
>>>> with the new rig or have those remained consistent at previous values?
>>>>
>>>> AA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:4959d112@linux...
>>>>> Grunt test #1:
>>>>> 24 track mix with silly amounts of plugins.
>>>>>
>>>>> I added 12 mono instances of SIR. 1 Autotune.
>>>>> 4 drumagog, 1 editor at sample level showing 6 tracks.
>>>>> CPU averaged between 16-25%. If this can all be doubled
>>>>> and raise the average to 50% CPU I think we'll be in good
>>>>> shape with these newfangled computers. I use primarily
>>>>> UAD comps and eqs so I'm not too worried anyway.
>>>>> Of course there were Paris plugs all over the place too.
>>>>>
>>>>> I did encounter a crazy error trying to install a stereo SIR
>>>>> across unequal length tracks. That's to be expected still.
>>>>> All plugs were loaded while the transport was running.
>>>>> Autotune made the transport stop but not SIR.
>>>>>
>>>>> Next I will install Cubase and lock with Paris. Those soft synths
>>>>> should give it a work out.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ha ha ha hahahahahaaaaaa,
>>>>> T.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:4959a14a@linux...
>>>>>> Hi Kerry,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ya Mike is a major league player regarding Paris that's for sure.
>>>>>> I have been installing many plugins and
>>>>>> so far with great success. I am about to wrap them and see
>>>>>> how they function. Many are DX and work right out of the
>>>>>> box. Some of the VSTs do too. The Waves SSL is sweet
>>>>>> and didn't show it's quirky display problem that shut the
>>>>>> transport down in my old comp. There is a driver update
>>>>>> for some video cards because of it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am going back at it and will try to make it quit from
>>>>>> abuse again only this time with as many SIRs as I can get
>>>>>> going as inserts. This should be fun!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll post back.
>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:C57ECC48.C1AF%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>>>>>>> Huge news, Tom - congratulations, and thanks for trailblazing for
>>>>>>> everyone!
>>>>>>> I'll be watching the process with extreme interest - my production
>>>>>>> buddy is
>>>>>>> all PC and he wants to have a pretty brawny computer in the studio,
>>>>>>> so this
>>>>>>> couldn't have come at a better time for me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mike, looks like you hit it out of the park.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - K
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/29/08 2:06 PM, in article 49594d55@linux, "Tom Bruhl"
>>>>>>> <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well everyone, Mike has saved the day by updating the
>>>>>>>> PSCL for me in particular. I was receiving a new error
>>>>>>>> never seen before. After more than a few trys Mike seems
>>>>>>>> to have nailed it. Again no funny workarounds with XP Pro,
>>>>>>>> 2 mecs, 5 eds, Magma, UAD-2, Quadcore, etc..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I will continue loading plugins then finally add the Creamware
>>>>>>>> card.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1 EDS card is sharing with video, USB controllers and a few other
>>>>>>>> less important things. Not a glitch in operation and the beast is
>>>>>>>> smooth
>>>>>>>> and stable. Config in Paris is 64, 160, 210,000. I know, weird
>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>> not an error in sight and that's dragging 10 tracks in time all
>>>>>>>> over the
>>>>>>>> editor and dropping them whereva... while it's playing 24 tracks
>>>>>>>> with edits.
>>>>>>>> The gui is displaying at the sample level on 4 submixes too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think you will all like this very very much.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Happy as a lark,
>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:494fd4d4$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>> Two ADATs show up in Mec 2 in a 5 eds card -
>>>>>>>>> two mec setup using a quad core. One ADAT
>>>>>>>>> also was installed in Mec 1 at the time. I can't
>>>>>>>>> confirm ADAT sync at this time but the gui operated
>>>>>>>>> as expected in the patchbay.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'll need to pick up a creamware sync plate for that test.
>>>>>>>>> I may try the adat machine after all is well here.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:494faffc@linux...
>>>>>>>>>> I'll slap two adats into MEC 2 and see what happens for you guys.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:494fa209@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>> A new box is in consideration, and maybe a few more adat cards
>>>>>>>>>>> to link up
>>>>>>>>>>> my Creamware setup to it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Mike Audet" <mike@mikeaudet.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:494f81fa$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Aaron Allen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you using multiple Adat cards with the adat updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>> drivers, per
>>>>>>>>>>>>> chance?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Aaron,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you tried that yet, or are you just considering trying it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If there are any issues, I want to fix them. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Grunt Test #1 [message #101879 is a reply to message #101876] Sat, 03 January 2009 09:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
Senior Member
Hi Aaron,

Well the card goes in first but no 'restart the computer' after
drivers were found. Still shows in Device manager as working.
I continue to load software. First I have to load about 30 codes
OR go get a 'keyfile' from their website. I can't my personal data
anywhere on their website so I manually type them in. Okay, now
it asks for hardware and software serial numbers. Hardware is easy
software is nowhere to be found even with a windows search. I
skip that. It continues to load the goods. I think, okay I'll just have to
wait for a software code then all will be fine. No. After the install
completes there is no .exe to start the program even in Program Files.
I find it on the CD and it tries to start except it's missing a couple of
other
files. I copy it to the program folder in all possible locations and even
do a
search for the missing files. Not there. No worky.

Now I'm wanting to uninstall and wait for guidance. The uninstall won't
work either.

Good thing there's a backup of before this incident.

Have a good weekend. I'll get it when someone calls or emails with support.
Dimitrios?

Tom


"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:495f13ee$1@linux...
> If I remember right their idea of copy protection is pretty goofy and
> unfriendly to the end user. Although, NOTHING like the crap Tascam/Giga
> has put me through. Hang in there bro, I'm sure you'll nail it down.
>
> AA
>
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:495f03fc@linux...
>> Creamware install not easy or working.
>> Waiting for tech support.
>>
>> Probably all my fault.
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:495bcc27$1@linux...
>>> All plugs are in Paris, wrapped and working with a UAD-2 and UAD-1 ver
>>> 5.2.
>>> Paris is working like a champ now. FaderWorks 1.4 is also a savior.
>>> Backup is done. Cubase 4, Creamware 4.5 and Kontakt 3 are next.
>>>
>>> I'll be back at it after the new year gigs are done. Have a good one
>>> guys and gals.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:4959d71c@linux...
>>>> Aaron,
>>>>
>>>> SIR was the same to the ear.
>>>>
>>>> I wondered the same thing. I haven't got Faderworks
>>>> installed yet. That's tomorrow. I think it remains the
>>>> same though.
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>> news:4959d4a7$1@linux...
>>>>> Just curious... are there any latency changes in native or UAD plugs
>>>>> with the new rig or have those remained consistent at previous values?
>>>>>
>>>>> AA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:4959d112@linux...
>>>>>> Grunt test #1:
>>>>>> 24 track mix with silly amounts of plugins.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I added 12 mono instances of SIR. 1 Autotune.
>>>>>> 4 drumagog, 1 editor at sample level showing 6 tracks.
>>>>>> CPU averaged between 16-25%. If this can all be doubled
>>>>>> and raise the average to 50% CPU I think we'll be in good
>>>>>> shape with these newfangled computers. I use primarily
>>>>>> UAD comps and eqs so I'm not too worried anyway.
>>>>>> Of course there were Paris plugs all over the place too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I did encounter a crazy error trying to install a stereo SIR
>>>>>> across unequal length tracks. That's to be expected still.
>>>>>> All plugs were loaded while the transport was running.
>>>>>> Autotune made the transport stop but not SIR.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Next I will install Cubase and lock with Paris. Those soft synths
>>>>>> should give it a work out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ha ha ha hahahahahaaaaaa,
>>>>>> T.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:4959a14a@linux...
>>>>>>> Hi Kerry,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ya Mike is a major league player regarding Paris that's for sure.
>>>>>>> I have been installing many plugins and
>>>>>>> so far with great success. I am about to wrap them and see
>>>>>>> how they function. Many are DX and work right out of the
>>>>>>> box. Some of the VSTs do too. The Waves SSL is sweet
>>>>>>> and didn't show it's quirky display problem that shut the
>>>>>>> transport down in my old comp. There is a driver update
>>>>>>> for some video cards because of it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am going back at it and will try to make it quit from
>>>>>>> abuse again only this time with as many SIRs as I can get
>>>>>>> going as inserts. This should be fun!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll post back.
>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:C57ECC48.C1AF%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>>>>>>>> Huge news, Tom - congratulations, and thanks for trailblazing for
>>>>>>>> everyone!
>>>>>>>> I'll be watching the process with extreme interest - my production
>>>>>>>> buddy is
>>>>>>>> all PC and he wants to have a pretty brawny computer in the studio,
>>>>>>>> so this
>>>>>>>> couldn't have come at a better time for me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mike, looks like you hit it out of the park.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - K
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 12/29/08 2:06 PM, in article 49594d55@linux, "Tom Bruhl"
>>>>>>>> <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well everyone, Mike has saved the day by updating the
>>>>>>>>> PSCL for me in particular. I was receiving a new error
>>>>>>>>> never seen before. After more than a few trys Mike seems
>>>>>>>>> to have nailed it. Again no funny workarounds with XP Pro,
>>>>>>>>> 2 mecs, 5 eds, Magma, UAD-2, Quadcore, etc..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I will continue loading plugins then finally add the Creamware
>>>>>>>>> card.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1 EDS card is sharing with video, USB controllers and a few other
>>>>>>>>> less important things. Not a glitch in operation and the beast is
>>>>>>>>> smooth
>>>>>>>>> and stable. Config in Paris is 64, 160, 210,000. I know, weird
>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>> not an error in sight and that's dragging 10 tracks in time all
>>>>>>>>> over the
>>>>>>>>> editor and dropping them whereva... while it's playing 24 tracks
>>>>>>>>> with edits.
>>>>>>>>> The gui is displaying at the sample level on 4 submixes too.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think you will all like this very very much.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Happy as a lark,
>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:494fd4d4$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>> Two ADATs show up in Mec 2 in a 5 eds card -
>>>>>>>>>> two mec setup using a quad core. One ADAT
>>>>>>>>>> also was installed in Mec 1 at the time. I can't
>>>>>>>>>> confirm ADAT sync at this time but the gui operated
>>>>>>>>>> as expected in the patchbay.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'll need to pick up a creamware sync plate for that test.
>>>>>>>>>> I may try the adat machine after all is well here.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:494faffc@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>> I'll slap two adats into MEC 2 and see what happens for you
>>>>>>>>>>> guys.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:494fa209@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>> A new box is in consideration, and maybe a few more adat cards
>>>>>>>>>>>> to link up
>>>>>>>>>>>> my Creamware setup to it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Mike Audet" <mike@mikeaudet.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:494f81fa$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aaron Allen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you using multiple Adat cards with the adat updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drivers, per
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chance?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Aaron,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you tried that yet, or are you just considering trying
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there are any issues, I want to fix them. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Grunt Test #1 [message #101952 is a reply to message #101879] Tue, 06 January 2009 21:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
Senior Member
Got Scope running as it should. ADAT clock is being recognized
from Paris. No problem having both apps up and running together.
I will install Cubase tomorrow and see how that frigs things up.
Backups are wonderful.

As it stands:
5 x EDS, 2 x Mecs (2 mecs on the way), XP, WC, 2 x ADAT modules
present in Mec 2.
1 x UAD-2 Duo, 1 x UAD-1
Scope Pro card (14 shark chip)

No Problem.

Whew!

Tom

PS The secret for Scope was to copy to the hard drive first then install.
Don't know why but it helped after three try's prior.




"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:495fa3d7@linux...
> Hi Aaron,
>
> Well the card goes in first but no 'restart the computer' after
> drivers were found. Still shows in Device manager as working.
> I continue to load software. First I have to load about 30 codes
> OR go get a 'keyfile' from their website. I can't my personal data
> anywhere on their website so I manually type them in. Okay, now
> it asks for hardware and software serial numbers. Hardware is easy
> software is nowhere to be found even with a windows search. I
> skip that. It continues to load the goods. I think, okay I'll just have
> to
> wait for a software code then all will be fine. No. After the install
> completes there is no .exe to start the program even in Program Files.
> I find it on the CD and it tries to start except it's missing a couple of
> other
> files. I copy it to the program folder in all possible locations and even
> do a
> search for the missing files. Not there. No worky.
>
> Now I'm wanting to uninstall and wait for guidance. The uninstall won't
> work either.
>
> Good thing there's a backup of before this incident.
>
> Have a good weekend. I'll get it when someone calls or emails with
> support.
> Dimitrios?
>
> Tom
>
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
> news:495f13ee$1@linux...
>> If I remember right their idea of copy protection is pretty goofy and
>> unfriendly to the end user. Although, NOTHING like the crap Tascam/Giga
>> has put me through. Hang in there bro, I'm sure you'll nail it down.
>>
>> AA
>>
>>
>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:495f03fc@linux...
>>> Creamware install not easy or working.
>>> Waiting for tech support.
>>>
>>> Probably all my fault.
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:495bcc27$1@linux...
>>>> All plugs are in Paris, wrapped and working with a UAD-2 and UAD-1 ver
>>>> 5.2.
>>>> Paris is working like a champ now. FaderWorks 1.4 is also a savior.
>>>> Backup is done. Cubase 4, Creamware 4.5 and Kontakt 3 are next.
>>>>
>>>> I'll be back at it after the new year gigs are done. Have a good one
>>>> guys and gals.
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:4959d71c@linux...
>>>>> Aaron,
>>>>>
>>>>> SIR was the same to the ear.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wondered the same thing. I haven't got Faderworks
>>>>> installed yet. That's tomorrow. I think it remains the
>>>>> same though.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>> news:4959d4a7$1@linux...
>>>>>> Just curious... are there any latency changes in native or UAD plugs
>>>>>> with the new rig or have those remained consistent at previous
>>>>>> values?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:4959d112@linux...
>>>>>>> Grunt test #1:
>>>>>>> 24 track mix with silly amounts of plugins.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I added 12 mono instances of SIR. 1 Autotune.
>>>>>>> 4 drumagog, 1 editor at sample level showing 6 tracks.
>>>>>>> CPU averaged between 16-25%. If this can all be doubled
>>>>>>> and raise the average to 50% CPU I think we'll be in good
>>>>>>> shape with these newfangled computers. I use primarily
>>>>>>> UAD comps and eqs so I'm not too worried anyway.
>>>>>>> Of course there were Paris plugs all over the place too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I did encounter a crazy error trying to install a stereo SIR
>>>>>>> across unequal length tracks. That's to be expected still.
>>>>>>> All plugs were loaded while the transport was running.
>>>>>>> Autotune made the transport stop but not SIR.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Next I will install Cubase and lock with Paris. Those soft synths
>>>>>>> should give it a work out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ha ha ha hahahahahaaaaaa,
>>>>>>> T.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:4959a14a@linux...
>>>>>>>> Hi Kerry,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ya Mike is a major league player regarding Paris that's for sure.
>>>>>>>> I have been installing many plugins and
>>>>>>>> so far with great success. I am about to wrap them and see
>>>>>>>> how they function. Many are DX and work right out of the
>>>>>>>> box. Some of the VSTs do too. The Waves SSL is sweet
>>>>>>>> and didn't show it's quirky display problem that shut the
>>>>>>>> transport down in my old comp. There is a driver update
>>>>>>>> for some video cards because of it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am going back at it and will try to make it quit from
>>>>>>>> abuse again only this time with as many SIRs as I can get
>>>>>>>> going as inserts. This should be fun!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll post back.
>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:C57ECC48.C1AF%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>>>>>>>>> Huge news, Tom - congratulations, and thanks for trailblazing for
>>>>>>>>> everyone!
>>>>>>>>> I'll be watching the process with extreme interest - my production
>>>>>>>>> buddy is
>>>>>>>>> all PC and he wants to have a pretty brawny computer in the
>>>>>>>>> studio, so this
>>>>>>>>> couldn't have come at a better time for me.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mike, looks like you hit it out of the park.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - K
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 12/29/08 2:06 PM, in article 49594d55@linux, "Tom Bruhl"
>>>>>>>>> <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Well everyone, Mike has saved the day by updating the
>>>>>>>>>> PSCL for me in particular. I was receiving a new error
>>>>>>>>>> never seen before. After more than a few trys Mike seems
>>>>>>>>>> to have nailed it. Again no funny workarounds with XP Pro,
>>>>>>>>>> 2 mecs, 5 eds, Magma, UAD-2, Quadcore, etc..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I will continue loading plugins then finally add the Creamware
>>>>>>>>>> card.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1 EDS card is sharing with video, USB controllers and a few other
>>>>>>>>>> less important things. Not a glitch in operation and the beast
>>>>>>>>>> is smooth
>>>>>>>>>> and stable. Config in Paris is 64, 160, 210,000. I know, weird
>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>> not an error in sight and that's dragging 10 tracks in time all
>>>>>>>>>> over the
>>>>>>>>>> editor and dropping them whereva... while it's playing 24 tracks
>>>>>>>>>> with edits.
>>>>>>>>>> The gui is displaying at the sample level on 4 submixes too.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think you will all like this very very much.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Happy as a lark,
>>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:494fd4d4$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>> Two ADATs show up in Mec 2 in a 5 eds card -
>>>>>>>>>>> two mec setup using a quad core. One ADAT
>>>>>>>>>>> also was installed in Mec 1 at the time. I can't
>>>>>>>>>>> confirm ADAT sync at this time but the gui operated
>>>>>>>>>>> as expected in the patchbay.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'll need to pick up a creamware sync plate for that test.
>>>>>>>>>>> I may try the adat machine after all is well here.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:494faffc@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll slap two adats into MEC 2 and see what happens for you
>>>>>>>>>>>> guys.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:494fa209@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> A new box is in consideration, and maybe a few more adat cards
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to link up
>>>>>>>>>>>>> my Creamware setup to it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Mike Audet" <mike@mikeaudet.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:494f81fa$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aaron Allen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you using multiple Adat cards with the adat updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drivers, per
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chance?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Aaron,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you tried that yet, or are you just considering trying
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there are any issues, I want to fix them. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Grunt Test #1 [message #101991 is a reply to message #101952] Thu, 08 January 2009 16:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
Senior Member
Got Wavelab happy with Creamware card. Both Paris
and Wavelab were running two projects at the same time
(Scope in the background too) with no glitches and very low CPU.

Off to Cubase 4.5.2

Tom


"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:49643eb5$1@linux...
> Got Scope running as it should. ADAT clock is being recognized
> from Paris. No problem having both apps up and running together.
> I will install Cubase tomorrow and see how that frigs things up.
> Backups are wonderful.
>
> As it stands:
> 5 x EDS, 2 x Mecs (2 mecs on the way), XP, WC, 2 x ADAT modules
> present in Mec 2.
> 1 x UAD-2 Duo, 1 x UAD-1
> Scope Pro card (14 shark chip)
>
> No Problem.
>
> Whew!
>
> Tom
>
> PS The secret for Scope was to copy to the hard drive first then install.
> Don't know why but it helped after three try's prior.
>
>
>
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:495fa3d7@linux...
>> Hi Aaron,
>>
>> Well the card goes in first but no 'restart the computer' after
>> drivers were found. Still shows in Device manager as working.
>> I continue to load software. First I have to load about 30 codes
>> OR go get a 'keyfile' from their website. I can't my personal data
>> anywhere on their website so I manually type them in. Okay, now
>> it asks for hardware and software serial numbers. Hardware is easy
>> software is nowhere to be found even with a windows search. I
>> skip that. It continues to load the goods. I think, okay I'll just have
>> to
>> wait for a software code then all will be fine. No. After the install
>> completes there is no .exe to start the program even in Program Files.
>> I find it on the CD and it tries to start except it's missing a couple of
>> other
>> files. I copy it to the program folder in all possible locations and
>> even do a
>> search for the missing files. Not there. No worky.
>>
>> Now I'm wanting to uninstall and wait for guidance. The uninstall won't
>> work either.
>>
>> Good thing there's a backup of before this incident.
>>
>> Have a good weekend. I'll get it when someone calls or emails with
>> support.
>> Dimitrios?
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>> news:495f13ee$1@linux...
>>> If I remember right their idea of copy protection is pretty goofy and
>>> unfriendly to the end user. Although, NOTHING like the crap Tascam/Giga
>>> has put me through. Hang in there bro, I'm sure you'll nail it down.
>>>
>>> AA
>>>
>>>
>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:495f03fc@linux...
>>>> Creamware install not easy or working.
>>>> Waiting for tech support.
>>>>
>>>> Probably all my fault.
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:495bcc27$1@linux...
>>>>> All plugs are in Paris, wrapped and working with a UAD-2 and UAD-1 ver
>>>>> 5.2.
>>>>> Paris is working like a champ now. FaderWorks 1.4 is also a savior.
>>>>> Backup is done. Cubase 4, Creamware 4.5 and Kontakt 3 are next.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll be back at it after the new year gigs are done. Have a good one
>>>>> guys and gals.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:4959d71c@linux...
>>>>>> Aaron,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SIR was the same to the ear.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wondered the same thing. I haven't got Faderworks
>>>>>> installed yet. That's tomorrow. I think it remains the
>>>>>> same though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:4959d4a7$1@linux...
>>>>>>> Just curious... are there any latency changes in native or UAD plugs
>>>>>>> with the new rig or have those remained consistent at previous
>>>>>>> values?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:4959d112@linux...
>>>>>>>> Grunt test #1:
>>>>>>>> 24 track mix with silly amounts of plugins.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I added 12 mono instances of SIR. 1 Autotune.
>>>>>>>> 4 drumagog, 1 editor at sample level showing 6 tracks.
>>>>>>>> CPU averaged between 16-25%. If this can all be doubled
>>>>>>>> and raise the average to 50% CPU I think we'll be in good
>>>>>>>> shape with these newfangled computers. I use primarily
>>>>>>>> UAD comps and eqs so I'm not too worried anyway.
>>>>>>>> Of course there were Paris plugs all over the place too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I did encounter a crazy error trying to install a stereo SIR
>>>>>>>> across unequal length tracks. That's to be expected still.
>>>>>>>> All plugs were loaded while the transport was running.
>>>>>>>> Autotune made the transport stop but not SIR.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Next I will install Cubase and lock with Paris. Those soft synths
>>>>>>>> should give it a work out.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ha ha ha hahahahahaaaaaa,
>>>>>>>> T.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:4959a14a@linux...
>>>>>>>>> Hi Kerry,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ya Mike is a major league player regarding Paris that's for sure.
>>>>>>>>> I have been installing many plugins and
>>>>>>>>> so far with great success. I am about to wrap them and see
>>>>>>>>> how they function. Many are DX and work right out of the
>>>>>>>>> box. Some of the VSTs do too. The Waves SSL is sweet
>>>>>>>>> and didn't show it's quirky display problem that shut the
>>>>>>>>> transport down in my old comp. There is a driver update
>>>>>>>>> for some video cards because of it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am going back at it and will try to make it quit from
>>>>>>>>> abuse again only this time with as many SIRs as I can get
>>>>>>>>> going as inserts. This should be fun!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'll post back.
>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:C57ECC48.C1AF%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>>>>>>>>>> Huge news, Tom - congratulations, and thanks for trailblazing for
>>>>>>>>>> everyone!
>>>>>>>>>> I'll be watching the process with extreme interest - my
>>>>>>>>>> production buddy is
>>>>>>>>>> all PC and he wants to have a pretty brawny computer in the
>>>>>>>>>> studio, so this
>>>>>>>>>> couldn't have come at a better time for me.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mike, looks like you hit it out of the park.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - K
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 12/29/08 2:06 PM, in article 49594d55@linux, "Tom Bruhl"
>>>>>>>>>> <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Well everyone, Mike has saved the day by updating the
>>>>>>>>>>> PSCL for me in particular. I was receiving a new error
>>>>>>>>>>> never seen before. After more than a few trys Mike seems
>>>>>>>>>>> to have nailed it. Again no funny workarounds with XP Pro,
>>>>>>>>>>> 2 mecs, 5 eds, Magma, UAD-2, Quadcore, etc..
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I will continue loading plugins then finally add the Creamware
>>>>>>>>>>> card.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 1 EDS card is sharing with video, USB controllers and a few
>>>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>>>> less important things. Not a glitch in operation and the beast
>>>>>>>>>>> is smooth
>>>>>>>>>>> and stable. Config in Paris is 64, 160, 210,000. I know,
>>>>>>>>>>> weird but
>>>>>>>>>>> not an error in sight and that's dragging 10 tracks in time all
>>>>>>>>>>> over the
>>>>>>>>>>> editor and dropping them whereva... while it's playing 24 tracks
>>>>>>>>>>> with edits.
>>>>>>>>>>> The gui is displaying at the sample level on 4 submixes too.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think you will all like this very very much.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Happy as a lark,
>>>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:494fd4d4$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Two ADATs show up in Mec 2 in a 5 eds card -
>>>>>>>>>>>> two mec setup using a quad core. One ADAT
>>>>>>>>>>>> also was installed in Mec 1 at the time. I can't
>>>>>>>>>>>> confirm ADAT sync at this time but the gui operated
>>>>>>>>>>>> as expected in the patchbay.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll need to pick up a creamware sync plate for that test.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I may try the adat machine after all is well here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:494faffc@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll slap two adats into MEC 2 and see what happens for you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> guys.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:494fa209@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A new box is in consideration, and maybe a few more adat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cards to link up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my Creamware setup to it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Mike Audet" <mike@mikeaudet.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:494f81fa$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aaron Allen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you using multiple Adat cards with the adat updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drivers, per
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chance?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Aaron,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you tried that yet, or are you just considering trying
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there are any issues, I want to fix them. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Grunt Test #1 [message #102141 is a reply to message #101991] Thu, 15 January 2009 17:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
Senior Member
I gave up.

Tom


"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:4966a483$1@linux...
> Got Wavelab happy with Creamware card. Both Paris
> and Wavelab were running two projects at the same time
> (Scope in the background too) with no glitches and very low CPU.
>
> Off to Cubase 4.5.2
>
> Tom
>
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:49643eb5$1@linux...
>> Got Scope running as it should. ADAT clock is being recognized
>> from Paris. No problem having both apps up and running together.
>> I will install Cubase tomorrow and see how that frigs things up.
>> Backups are wonderful.
>>
>> As it stands:
>> 5 x EDS, 2 x Mecs (2 mecs on the way), XP, WC, 2 x ADAT modules
>> present in Mec 2.
>> 1 x UAD-2 Duo, 1 x UAD-1
>> Scope Pro card (14 shark chip)
>>
>> No Problem.
>>
>> Whew!
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> PS The secret for Scope was to copy to the hard drive first then
>> install.
>> Don't know why but it helped after three try's prior.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:495fa3d7@linux...
>>> Hi Aaron,
>>>
>>> Well the card goes in first but no 'restart the computer' after
>>> drivers were found. Still shows in Device manager as working.
>>> I continue to load software. First I have to load about 30 codes
>>> OR go get a 'keyfile' from their website. I can't my personal data
>>> anywhere on their website so I manually type them in. Okay, now
>>> it asks for hardware and software serial numbers. Hardware is easy
>>> software is nowhere to be found even with a windows search. I
>>> skip that. It continues to load the goods. I think, okay I'll just
>>> have to
>>> wait for a software code then all will be fine. No. After the install
>>> completes there is no .exe to start the program even in Program Files.
>>> I find it on the CD and it tries to start except it's missing a couple
>>> of other
>>> files. I copy it to the program folder in all possible locations and
>>> even do a
>>> search for the missing files. Not there. No worky.
>>>
>>> Now I'm wanting to uninstall and wait for guidance. The uninstall won't
>>> work either.
>>>
>>> Good thing there's a backup of before this incident.
>>>
>>> Have a good weekend. I'll get it when someone calls or emails with
>>> support.
>>> Dimitrios?
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>> news:495f13ee$1@linux...
>>>> If I remember right their idea of copy protection is pretty goofy and
>>>> unfriendly to the end user. Although, NOTHING like the crap Tascam/Giga
>>>> has put me through. Hang in there bro, I'm sure you'll nail it down.
>>>>
>>>> AA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:495f03fc@linux...
>>>>> Creamware install not easy or working.
>>>>> Waiting for tech support.
>>>>>
>>>>> Probably all my fault.
>>>>> Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:495bcc27$1@linux...
>>>>>> All plugs are in Paris, wrapped and working with a UAD-2 and UAD-1
>>>>>> ver 5.2.
>>>>>> Paris is working like a champ now. FaderWorks 1.4 is also a savior.
>>>>>> Backup is done. Cubase 4, Creamware 4.5 and Kontakt 3 are next.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll be back at it after the new year gigs are done. Have a good one
>>>>>> guys and gals.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:4959d71c@linux...
>>>>>>> Aaron,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> SIR was the same to the ear.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I wondered the same thing. I haven't got Faderworks
>>>>>>> installed yet. That's tomorrow. I think it remains the
>>>>>>> same though.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:4959d4a7$1@linux...
>>>>>>>> Just curious... are there any latency changes in native or UAD
>>>>>>>> plugs with the new rig or have those remained consistent at
>>>>>>>> previous values?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:4959d112@linux...
>>>>>>>>> Grunt test #1:
>>>>>>>>> 24 track mix with silly amounts of plugins.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I added 12 mono instances of SIR. 1 Autotune.
>>>>>>>>> 4 drumagog, 1 editor at sample level showing 6 tracks.
>>>>>>>>> CPU averaged between 16-25%. If this can all be doubled
>>>>>>>>> and raise the average to 50% CPU I think we'll be in good
>>>>>>>>> shape with these newfangled computers. I use primarily
>>>>>>>>> UAD comps and eqs so I'm not too worried anyway.
>>>>>>>>> Of course there were Paris plugs all over the place too.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I did encounter a crazy error trying to install a stereo SIR
>>>>>>>>> across unequal length tracks. That's to be expected still.
>>>>>>>>> All plugs were loaded while the transport was running.
>>>>>>>>> Autotune made the transport stop but not SIR.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Next I will install Cubase and lock with Paris. Those soft synths
>>>>>>>>> should give it a work out.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ha ha ha hahahahahaaaaaa,
>>>>>>>>> T.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:4959a14a@linux...
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Kerry,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ya Mike is a major league player regarding Paris that's for sure.
>>>>>>>>>> I have been installing many plugins and
>>>>>>>>>> so far with great success. I am about to wrap them and see
>>>>>>>>>> how they function. Many are DX and work right out of the
>>>>>>>>>> box. Some of the VSTs do too. The Waves SSL is sweet
>>>>>>>>>> and didn't show it's quirky display problem that shut the
>>>>>>>>>> transport down in my old comp. There is a driver update
>>>>>>>>>> for some video cards because of it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I am going back at it and will try to make it quit from
>>>>>>>>>> abuse again only this time with as many SIRs as I can get
>>>>>>>>>> going as inserts. This should be fun!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'll post back.
>>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:C57ECC48.C1AF%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>>>>>>>>>>> Huge news, Tom - congratulations, and thanks for trailblazing
>>>>>>>>>>> for everyone!
>>>>>>>>>>> I'll be watching the process with extreme interest - my
>>>>>>>>>>> production buddy is
>>>>>>>>>>> all PC and he wants to have a pretty brawny computer in the
>>>>>>>>>>> studio, so this
>>>>>>>>>>> couldn't have come at a better time for me.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Mike, looks like you hit it out of the park.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - K
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/29/08 2:06 PM, in article 49594d55@linux, "Tom Bruhl"
>>>>>>>>>>> <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Well everyone, Mike has saved the day by updating the
>>>>>>>>>>>> PSCL for me in particular. I was receiving a new error
>>>>>>>>>>>> never seen before. After more than a few trys Mike seems
>>>>>>>>>>>> to have nailed it. Again no funny workarounds with XP Pro,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 mecs, 5 eds, Magma, UAD-2, Quadcore, etc..
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I will continue loading plugins then finally add the Creamware
>>>>>>>>>>>> card.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 EDS card is sharing with video, USB controllers and a few
>>>>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>>>>> less important things. Not a glitch in operation and the beast
>>>>>>>>>>>> is smooth
>>>>>>>>>>>> and stable. Config in Paris is 64, 160, 210,000. I know,
>>>>>>>>>>>> weird but
>>>>>>>>>>>> not an error in sight and that's dragging 10 tracks in time all
>>>>>>>>>>>> over the
>>>>>>>>>>>> editor and dropping them whereva... while it's playing 24
>>>>>>>>>>>> tracks with edits.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The gui is displaying at the sample level on 4 submixes too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think you will all like this very very much.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Happy as a lark,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:494fd4d4$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Two ADATs show up in Mec 2 in a 5 eds card -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> two mec setup using a quad core. One ADAT
>>>>>>>>>>>>> also was installed in Mec 1 at the time. I can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> confirm ADAT sync at this time but the gui operated
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as expected in the patchbay.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll need to pick up a creamware sync plate for that test.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I may try the adat machine after all is well here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:494faffc@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll slap two adats into MEC 2 and see what happens for you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guys.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:494fa209@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A new box is in consideration, and maybe a few more adat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cards to link up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my Creamware setup to it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Mike Audet" <mike@mikeaudet.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:494f81fa$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aaron Allen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you using multiple Adat cards with the adat updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drivers, per
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chance?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Aaron,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you tried that yet, or are you just considering trying
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there are any issues, I want to fix them. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Grunt Test #1 [message #102143 is a reply to message #102141] Thu, 15 January 2009 19:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
Senior Member
Cubase no worky?
AA

"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:496fe664@linux...
>I gave up.
>
> Tom
>
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:4966a483$1@linux...
>> Got Wavelab happy with Creamware card. Both Paris
>> and Wavelab were running two projects at the same time
>> (Scope in the background too) with no glitches and very low CPU.
>>
>> Off to Cubase 4.5.2
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:49643eb5$1@linux...
>>> Got Scope running as it should. ADAT clock is being recognized
>>> from Paris. No problem having both apps up and running together.
>>> I will install Cubase tomorrow and see how that frigs things up.
>>> Backups are wonderful.
>>>
>>> As it stands:
>>> 5 x EDS, 2 x Mecs (2 mecs on the way), XP, WC, 2 x ADAT modules
>>> present in Mec 2.
>>> 1 x UAD-2 Duo, 1 x UAD-1
>>> Scope Pro card (14 shark chip)
>>>
>>> No Problem.
>>>
>>> Whew!
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>> PS The secret for Scope was to copy to the hard drive first then
>>> install.
>>> Don't know why but it helped after three try's prior.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:495fa3d7@linux...
>>>> Hi Aaron,
>>>>
>>>> Well the card goes in first but no 'restart the computer' after
>>>> drivers were found. Still shows in Device manager as working.
>>>> I continue to load software. First I have to load about 30 codes
>>>> OR go get a 'keyfile' from their website. I can't my personal data
>>>> anywhere on their website so I manually type them in. Okay, now
>>>> it asks for hardware and software serial numbers. Hardware is easy
>>>> software is nowhere to be found even with a windows search. I
>>>> skip that. It continues to load the goods. I think, okay I'll just
>>>> have to
>>>> wait for a software code then all will be fine. No. After the install
>>>> completes there is no .exe to start the program even in Program Files.
>>>> I find it on the CD and it tries to start except it's missing a couple
>>>> of other
>>>> files. I copy it to the program folder in all possible locations and
>>>> even do a
>>>> search for the missing files. Not there. No worky.
>>>>
>>>> Now I'm wanting to uninstall and wait for guidance. The uninstall
>>>> won't work either.
>>>>
>>>> Good thing there's a backup of before this incident.
>>>>
>>>> Have a good weekend. I'll get it when someone calls or emails with
>>>> support.
>>>> Dimitrios?
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>> news:495f13ee$1@linux...
>>>>> If I remember right their idea of copy protection is pretty goofy and
>>>>> unfriendly to the end user. Although, NOTHING like the crap
>>>>> Tascam/Giga has put me through. Hang in there bro, I'm sure you'll
>>>>> nail it down.
>>>>>
>>>>> AA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:495f03fc@linux...
>>>>>> Creamware install not easy or working.
>>>>>> Waiting for tech support.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Probably all my fault.
>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:495bcc27$1@linux...
>>>>>>> All plugs are in Paris, wrapped and working with a UAD-2 and UAD-1
>>>>>>> ver 5.2.
>>>>>>> Paris is working like a champ now. FaderWorks 1.4 is also a savior.
>>>>>>> Backup is done. Cubase 4, Creamware 4.5 and Kontakt 3 are next.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll be back at it after the new year gigs are done. Have a good
>>>>>>> one guys and gals.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:4959d71c@linux...
>>>>>>>> Aaron,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> SIR was the same to the ear.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wondered the same thing. I haven't got Faderworks
>>>>>>>> installed yet. That's tomorrow. I think it remains the
>>>>>>>> same though.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:4959d4a7$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>> Just curious... are there any latency changes in native or UAD
>>>>>>>>> plugs with the new rig or have those remained consistent at
>>>>>>>>> previous values?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:4959d112@linux...
>>>>>>>>>> Grunt test #1:
>>>>>>>>>> 24 track mix with silly amounts of plugins.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I added 12 mono instances of SIR. 1 Autotune.
>>>>>>>>>> 4 drumagog, 1 editor at sample level showing 6 tracks.
>>>>>>>>>> CPU averaged between 16-25%. If this can all be doubled
>>>>>>>>>> and raise the average to 50% CPU I think we'll be in good
>>>>>>>>>> shape with these newfangled computers. I use primarily
>>>>>>>>>> UAD comps and eqs so I'm not too worried anyway.
>>>>>>>>>> Of course there were Paris plugs all over the place too.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I did encounter a crazy error trying to install a stereo SIR
>>>>>>>>>> across unequal length tracks. That's to be expected still.
>>>>>>>>>> All plugs were loaded while the transport was running.
>>>>>>>>>> Autotune made the transport stop but not SIR.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Next I will install Cubase and lock with Paris. Those soft
>>>>>>>>>> synths
>>>>>>>>>> should give it a work out.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ha ha ha hahahahahaaaaaa,
>>>>>>>>>> T.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:4959a14a@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Kerry,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ya Mike is a major league player regarding Paris that's for
>>>>>>>>>>> sure.
>>>>>>>>>>> I have been installing many plugins and
>>>>>>>>>>> so far with great success. I am about to wrap them and see
>>>>>>>>>>> how they function. Many are DX and work right out of the
>>>>>>>>>>> box. Some of the VSTs do too. The Waves SSL is sweet
>>>>>>>>>>> and didn't show it's quirky display problem that shut the
>>>>>>>>>>> transport down in my old comp. There is a driver update
>>>>>>>>>>> for some video cards because of it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I am going back at it and will try to make it quit from
>>>>>>>>>>> abuse again only this time with as many SIRs as I can get
>>>>>>>>>>> going as inserts. This should be fun!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'll post back.
>>>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:C57ECC48.C1AF%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Huge news, Tom - congratulations, and thanks for trailblazing
>>>>>>>>>>>> for everyone!
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll be watching the process with extreme interest - my
>>>>>>>>>>>> production buddy is
>>>>>>>>>>>> all PC and he wants to have a pretty brawny computer in the
>>>>>>>>>>>> studio, so this
>>>>>>>>>>>> couldn't have come at a better time for me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike, looks like you hit it out of the park.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> - K
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/29/08 2:06 PM, in article 49594d55@linux, "Tom Bruhl"
>>>>>>>>>>>> <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well everyone, Mike has saved the day by updating the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> PSCL for me in particular. I was receiving a new error
>>>>>>>>>>>>> never seen before. After more than a few trys Mike seems
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to have nailed it. Again no funny workarounds with XP Pro,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 mecs, 5 eds, Magma, UAD-2, Quadcore, etc..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will continue loading plugins then finally add the Creamware
>>>>>>>>>>>>> card.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 EDS card is sharing with video, USB controllers and a few
>>>>>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>>>>>> less important things. Not a glitch in operation and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> beast is smooth
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and stable. Config in Paris is 64, 160, 210,000. I know,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> weird but
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not an error in sight and that's dragging 10 tracks in time
>>>>>>>>>>>>> all over the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> editor and dropping them whereva... while it's playing 24
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tracks with edits.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The gui is displaying at the sample level on 4 submixes too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think you will all like this very very much.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Happy as a lark,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:494fd4d4$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Two ADATs show up in Mec 2 in a 5 eds card -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two mec setup using a quad core. One ADAT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also was installed in Mec 1 at the time. I can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> confirm ADAT sync at this time but the gui operated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as expected in the patchbay.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll need to pick up a creamware sync plate for that test.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I may try the adat machine after all is well here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:494faffc@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll slap two adats into MEC 2 and see what happens for you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guys.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:494fa209@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A new box is in consideration, and maybe a few more adat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cards to link up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my Creamware setup to it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Mike Audet" <mike@mikeaudet.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:494f81fa$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aaron Allen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you using multiple Adat cards with the adat updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drivers, per
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chance?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Aaron,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you tried that yet, or are you just considering
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trying it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there are any issues, I want to fix them. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Grunt Test #1 [message #102144 is a reply to message #102143] Thu, 15 January 2009 19:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
Senior Member
Hi Aaron,

Thanks for your interest. I wish I had better news.

I have a serious asio problem. Creamware and Cubase 4.0
were installed but glitchy. The problem is somewhere
with hardware fighting for resources. I removed everything
except 5 EDS cards and still there were some glitches.
Ethernet was disabled and there are no other USB devices.
Paris runs like a champ through it all but asio is nothing
but a train wreck. I have lost the will to go any further.
This is week five of tweaking.

Paris runs great with a UAD2 and UAD1 internal latency and all.
That makes for a smoking mix engine. I still have a fairly robust
dualcore that had been fine with Cubase 2.1 . I will go back to
that and run with it until I truly outgrow it. I will install Cubase 4.5.2
though.

Chris suggested running the Creamware card on a single core
but this problem is deeper than that. Maybe it's the Magma
and PCI bus? I've spent more money than I wanted to to begin with.

Tom





"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:496ffef1@linux...
> Cubase no worky?
> AA
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:496fe664@linux...
>>I gave up.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:4966a483$1@linux...
>>> Got Wavelab happy with Creamware card. Both Paris
>>> and Wavelab were running two projects at the same time
>>> (Scope in the background too) with no glitches and very low CPU.
>>>
>>> Off to Cubase 4.5.2
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:49643eb5$1@linux...
>>>> Got Scope running as it should. ADAT clock is being recognized
>>>> from Paris. No problem having both apps up and running together.
>>>> I will install Cubase tomorrow and see how that frigs things up.
>>>> Backups are wonderful.
>>>>
>>>> As it stands:
>>>> 5 x EDS, 2 x Mecs (2 mecs on the way), XP, WC, 2 x ADAT modules
>>>> present in Mec 2.
>>>> 1 x UAD-2 Duo, 1 x UAD-1
>>>> Scope Pro card (14 shark chip)
>>>>
>>>> No Problem.
>>>>
>>>> Whew!
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>> PS The secret for Scope was to copy to the hard drive first then
>>>> install.
>>>> Don't know why but it helped after three try's prior.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:495fa3d7@linux...
>>>>> Hi Aaron,
>>>>>
>>>>> Well the card goes in first but no 'restart the computer' after
>>>>> drivers were found. Still shows in Device manager as working.
>>>>> I continue to load software. First I have to load about 30 codes
>>>>> OR go get a 'keyfile' from their website. I can't my personal data
>>>>> anywhere on their website so I manually type them in. Okay, now
>>>>> it asks for hardware and software serial numbers. Hardware is easy
>>>>> software is nowhere to be found even with a windows search. I
>>>>> skip that. It continues to load the goods. I think, okay I'll just
>>>>> have to
>>>>> wait for a software code then all will be fine. No. After the
>>>>> install
>>>>> completes there is no .exe to start the program even in Program Files.
>>>>> I find it on the CD and it tries to start except it's missing a couple
>>>>> of other
>>>>> files. I copy it to the program folder in all possible locations and
>>>>> even do a
>>>>> search for the missing files. Not there. No worky.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now I'm wanting to uninstall and wait for guidance. The uninstall
>>>>> won't work either.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good thing there's a backup of before this incident.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have a good weekend. I'll get it when someone calls or emails with
>>>>> support.
>>>>> Dimitrios?
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>> news:495f13ee$1@linux...
>>>>>> If I remember right their idea of copy protection is pretty goofy and
>>>>>> unfriendly to the end user. Although, NOTHING like the crap
>>>>>> Tascam/Giga has put me through. Hang in there bro, I'm sure you'll
>>>>>> nail it down.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:495f03fc@linux...
>>>>>>> Creamware install not easy or working.
>>>>>>> Waiting for tech support.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Probably all my fault.
>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:495bcc27$1@linux...
>>>>>>>> All plugs are in Paris, wrapped and working with a UAD-2 and UAD-1
>>>>>>>> ver 5.2.
>>>>>>>> Paris is working like a champ now. FaderWorks 1.4 is also a
>>>>>>>> savior.
>>>>>>>> Backup is done. Cubase 4, Creamware 4.5 and Kontakt 3 are next.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll be back at it after the new year gigs are done. Have a good
>>>>>>>> one guys and gals.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:4959d71c@linux...
>>>>>>>>> Aaron,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> SIR was the same to the ear.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I wondered the same thing. I haven't got Faderworks
>>>>>>>>> installed yet. That's tomorrow. I think it remains the
>>>>>>>>> same though.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:4959d4a7$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>> Just curious... are there any latency changes in native or UAD
>>>>>>>>>> plugs with the new rig or have those remained consistent at
>>>>>>>>>> previous values?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:4959d112@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>> Grunt test #1:
>>>>>>>>>>> 24 track mix with silly amounts of plugins.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I added 12 mono instances of SIR. 1 Autotune.
>>>>>>>>>>> 4 drumagog, 1 editor at sample level showing 6 tracks.
>>>>>>>>>>> CPU averaged between 16-25%. If this can all be doubled
>>>>>>>>>>> and raise the average to 50% CPU I think we'll be in good
>>>>>>>>>>> shape with these newfangled computers. I use primarily
>>>>>>>>>>> UAD comps and eqs so I'm not too worried anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>> Of course there were Paris plugs all over the place too.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I did encounter a crazy error trying to install a stereo SIR
>>>>>>>>>>> across unequal length tracks. That's to be expected still.
>>>>>>>>>>> All plugs were loaded while the transport was running.
>>>>>>>>>>> Autotune made the transport stop but not SIR.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Next I will install Cubase and lock with Paris. Those soft
>>>>>>>>>>> synths
>>>>>>>>>>> should give it a work out.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ha ha ha hahahahahaaaaaa,
>>>>>>>>>>> T.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:4959a14a@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Kerry,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ya Mike is a major league player regarding Paris that's for
>>>>>>>>>>>> sure.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have been installing many plugins and
>>>>>>>>>>>> so far with great success. I am about to wrap them and see
>>>>>>>>>>>> how they function. Many are DX and work right out of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> box. Some of the VSTs do too. The Waves SSL is sweet
>>>>>>>>>>>> and didn't show it's quirky display problem that shut the
>>>>>>>>>>>> transport down in my old comp. There is a driver update
>>>>>>>>>>>> for some video cards because of it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I am going back at it and will try to make it quit from
>>>>>>>>>>>> abuse again only this time with as many SIRs as I can get
>>>>>>>>>>>> going as inserts. This should be fun!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll post back.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:C57ECC48.C1AF%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Huge news, Tom - congratulations, and thanks for trailblazing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for everyone!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll be watching the process with extreme interest - my
>>>>>>>>>>>>> production buddy is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> all PC and he wants to have a pretty brawny computer in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> studio, so this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> couldn't have come at a better time for me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike, looks like you hit it out of the park.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - K
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/29/08 2:06 PM, in article 49594d55@linux, "Tom Bruhl"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well everyone, Mike has saved the day by updating the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PSCL for me in particular. I was receiving a new error
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never seen before. After more than a few trys Mike seems
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to have nailed it. Again no funny workarounds with XP Pro,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 mecs, 5 eds, Magma, UAD-2, Quadcore, etc..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will continue loading plugins then finally add the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Creamware card.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 EDS card is sharing with video, USB controllers and a few
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> less important things. Not a glitch in operation and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beast is smooth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and stable. Config in Paris is 64, 160, 210,000. I know,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weird but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not an error in sight and that's dragging 10 tracks in time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all over the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> editor and dropping them whereva... while it's playing 24
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tracks with edits.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The gui is displaying at the sample level on 4 submixes too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think you will all like this very very much.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Happy as a lark,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:494fd4d4$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Two ADATs show up in Mec 2 in a 5 eds card -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two mec setup using a quad core. One ADAT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also was installed in Mec 1 at the time. I can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> confirm ADAT sync at this time but the gui operated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as expected in the patchbay.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll need to pick up a creamware sync plate for that test.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I may try the adat machine after all is well here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:494faffc@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll slap two adats into MEC 2 and see what happens for you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guys.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:494fa209@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A new box is in consideration, and maybe a few more adat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cards to link up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my Creamware setup to it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Mike Audet" <mike@mikeaudet.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:494f81fa$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aaron Allen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you using multiple Adat cards with the adat updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drivers, per
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chance?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Aaron,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you tried that yet, or are you just considering
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trying it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there are any issues, I want to fix them. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Grunt Test #1 [message #102219 is a reply to message #102144] Mon, 19 January 2009 22:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
Senior Member
Tried a bios update as well as a new C drive.
No bootable OS now...

I love this,
Tom




"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:49700744$1@linux...
> Hi Aaron,
>
> Thanks for your interest. I wish I had better news.
>
> I have a serious asio problem. Creamware and Cubase 4.0
> were installed but glitchy. The problem is somewhere
> with hardware fighting for resources. I removed everything
> except 5 EDS cards and still there were some glitches.
> Ethernet was disabled and there are no other USB devices.
> Paris runs like a champ through it all but asio is nothing
> but a train wreck. I have lost the will to go any further.
> This is week five of tweaking.
>
> Paris runs great with a UAD2 and UAD1 internal latency and all.
> That makes for a smoking mix engine. I still have a fairly robust
> dualcore that had been fine with Cubase 2.1 . I will go back to
> that and run with it until I truly outgrow it. I will install Cubase
> 4.5.2
> though.
>
> Chris suggested running the Creamware card on a single core
> but this problem is deeper than that. Maybe it's the Magma
> and PCI bus? I've spent more money than I wanted to to begin with.
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
> news:496ffef1@linux...
>> Cubase no worky?
>> AA
>>
>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:496fe664@linux...
>>>I gave up.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:4966a483$1@linux...
>>>> Got Wavelab happy with Creamware card. Both Paris
>>>> and Wavelab were running two projects at the same time
>>>> (Scope in the background too) with no glitches and very low CPU.
>>>>
>>>> Off to Cubase 4.5.2
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:49643eb5$1@linux...
>>>>> Got Scope running as it should. ADAT clock is being recognized
>>>>> from Paris. No problem having both apps up and running together.
>>>>> I will install Cubase tomorrow and see how that frigs things up.
>>>>> Backups are wonderful.
>>>>>
>>>>> As it stands:
>>>>> 5 x EDS, 2 x Mecs (2 mecs on the way), XP, WC, 2 x ADAT modules
>>>>> present in Mec 2.
>>>>> 1 x UAD-2 Duo, 1 x UAD-1
>>>>> Scope Pro card (14 shark chip)
>>>>>
>>>>> No Problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> Whew!
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom
>>>>>
>>>>> PS The secret for Scope was to copy to the hard drive first then
>>>>> install.
>>>>> Don't know why but it helped after three try's prior.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:495fa3d7@linux...
>>>>>> Hi Aaron,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well the card goes in first but no 'restart the computer' after
>>>>>> drivers were found. Still shows in Device manager as working.
>>>>>> I continue to load software. First I have to load about 30 codes
>>>>>> OR go get a 'keyfile' from their website. I can't my personal data
>>>>>> anywhere on their website so I manually type them in. Okay, now
>>>>>> it asks for hardware and software serial numbers. Hardware is easy
>>>>>> software is nowhere to be found even with a windows search. I
>>>>>> skip that. It continues to load the goods. I think, okay I'll just
>>>>>> have to
>>>>>> wait for a software code then all will be fine. No. After the
>>>>>> install
>>>>>> completes there is no .exe to start the program even in Program
>>>>>> Files.
>>>>>> I find it on the CD and it tries to start except it's missing a
>>>>>> couple of other
>>>>>> files. I copy it to the program folder in all possible locations and
>>>>>> even do a
>>>>>> search for the missing files. Not there. No worky.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now I'm wanting to uninstall and wait for guidance. The uninstall
>>>>>> won't work either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good thing there's a backup of before this incident.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have a good weekend. I'll get it when someone calls or emails with
>>>>>> support.
>>>>>> Dimitrios?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:495f13ee$1@linux...
>>>>>>> If I remember right their idea of copy protection is pretty goofy
>>>>>>> and unfriendly to the end user. Although, NOTHING like the crap
>>>>>>> Tascam/Giga has put me through. Hang in there bro, I'm sure you'll
>>>>>>> nail it down.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:495f03fc@linux...
>>>>>>>> Creamware install not easy or working.
>>>>>>>> Waiting for tech support.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Probably all my fault.
>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:495bcc27$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>> All plugs are in Paris, wrapped and working with a UAD-2 and UAD-1
>>>>>>>>> ver 5.2.
>>>>>>>>> Paris is working like a champ now. FaderWorks 1.4 is also a
>>>>>>>>> savior.
>>>>>>>>> Backup is done. Cubase 4, Creamware 4.5 and Kontakt 3 are next.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'll be back at it after the new year gigs are done. Have a good
>>>>>>>>> one guys and gals.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:4959d71c@linux...
>>>>>>>>>> Aaron,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> SIR was the same to the ear.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I wondered the same thing. I haven't got Faderworks
>>>>>>>>>> installed yet. That's tomorrow. I think it remains the
>>>>>>>>>> same though.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:4959d4a7$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>> Just curious... are there any latency changes in native or UAD
>>>>>>>>>>> plugs with the new rig or have those remained consistent at
>>>>>>>>>>> previous values?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:4959d112@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Grunt test #1:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 24 track mix with silly amounts of plugins.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I added 12 mono instances of SIR. 1 Autotune.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 4 drumagog, 1 editor at sample level showing 6 tracks.
>>>>>>>>>>>> CPU averaged between 16-25%. If this can all be doubled
>>>>>>>>>>>> and raise the average to 50% CPU I think we'll be in good
>>>>>>>>>>>> shape with these newfangled computers. I use primarily
>>>>>>>>>>>> UAD comps and eqs so I'm not too worried anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course there were Paris plugs all over the place too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I did encounter a crazy error trying to install a stereo SIR
>>>>>>>>>>>> across unequal length tracks. That's to be expected still.
>>>>>>>>>>>> All plugs were loaded while the transport was running.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Autotune made the transport stop but not SIR.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Next I will install Cubase and lock with Paris. Those soft
>>>>>>>>>>>> synths
>>>>>>>>>>>> should give it a work out.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ha ha ha hahahahahaaaaaa,
>>>>>>>>>>>> T.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:4959a14a@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Kerry,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ya Mike is a major league player regarding Paris that's for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have been installing many plugins and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> so far with great success. I am about to wrap them and see
>>>>>>>>>>>>> how they function. Many are DX and work right out of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> box. Some of the VSTs do too. The Waves SSL is sweet
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and didn't show it's quirky display problem that shut the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> transport down in my old comp. There is a driver update
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for some video cards because of it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am going back at it and will try to make it quit from
>>>>>>>>>>>>> abuse again only this time with as many SIRs as I can get
>>>>>>>>>>>>> going as inserts. This should be fun!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll post back.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:C57ECC48.C1AF%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Huge news, Tom - congratulations, and thanks for trailblazing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for everyone!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll be watching the process with extreme interest - my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> production buddy is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all PC and he wants to have a pretty brawny computer in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> studio, so this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> couldn't have come at a better time for me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike, looks like you hit it out of the park.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - K
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/29/08 2:06 PM, in article 49594d55@linux, "Tom Bruhl"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well everyone, Mike has saved the day by updating the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PSCL for me in particular. I was receiving a new error
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never seen before. After more than a few trys Mike seems
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to have nailed it. Again no funny workarounds with XP Pro,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 mecs, 5 eds, Magma, UAD-2, Quadcore, etc..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will continue loading plugins then finally add the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Creamware card.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 EDS card is sharing with video, USB controllers and a few
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> less important things. Not a glitch in operation and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beast is smooth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and stable. Config in Paris is 64, 160, 210,000. I know,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weird but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not an error in sight and that's dragging 10 tracks in time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all over the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> editor and dropping them whereva... while it's playing 24
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tracks with edits.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The gui is displaying at the sample level on 4 submixes too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think you will all like this very very much.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Happy as a lark,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:494fd4d4$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Two ADATs show up in Mec 2 in a 5 eds card -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two mec setup using a quad core. One ADAT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also was installed in Mec 1 at the time. I can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> confirm ADAT sync at this time but the gui operated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as expected in the patchbay.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll need to pick up a creamware sync plate for that test.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I may try the adat machine after all is well here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:494faffc@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll slap two adats into MEC 2 and see what happens for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you guys.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:494fa209@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A new box is in consideration, and maybe a few more adat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cards to link up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my Creamware setup to it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Mike Audet" <mike@mikeaudet.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:494f81fa$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aaron Allen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you using multiple Adat cards with the adat updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drivers, per
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chance?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Aaron,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you tried that yet, or are you just considering
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trying it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there are any issues, I want to fix them. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Grunt Test #1 [message #102220 is a reply to message #102219] Mon, 19 January 2009 22:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
Senior Member
jeez man.....

AA
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:49757538@linux...
> Tried a bios update as well as a new C drive.
> No bootable OS now...
>
> I love this,
> Tom
>
>
>
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:49700744$1@linux...
>> Hi Aaron,
>>
>> Thanks for your interest. I wish I had better news.
>>
>> I have a serious asio problem. Creamware and Cubase 4.0
>> were installed but glitchy. The problem is somewhere
>> with hardware fighting for resources. I removed everything
>> except 5 EDS cards and still there were some glitches.
>> Ethernet was disabled and there are no other USB devices.
>> Paris runs like a champ through it all but asio is nothing
>> but a train wreck. I have lost the will to go any further.
>> This is week five of tweaking.
>>
>> Paris runs great with a UAD2 and UAD1 internal latency and all.
>> That makes for a smoking mix engine. I still have a fairly robust
>> dualcore that had been fine with Cubase 2.1 . I will go back to
>> that and run with it until I truly outgrow it. I will install Cubase
>> 4.5.2
>> though.
>>
>> Chris suggested running the Creamware card on a single core
>> but this problem is deeper than that. Maybe it's the Magma
>> and PCI bus? I've spent more money than I wanted to to begin with.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>> news:496ffef1@linux...
>>> Cubase no worky?
>>> AA
>>>
>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:496fe664@linux...
>>>>I gave up.
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:4966a483$1@linux...
>>>>> Got Wavelab happy with Creamware card. Both Paris
>>>>> and Wavelab were running two projects at the same time
>>>>> (Scope in the background too) with no glitches and very low CPU.
>>>>>
>>>>> Off to Cubase 4.5.2
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:49643eb5$1@linux...
>>>>>> Got Scope running as it should. ADAT clock is being recognized
>>>>>> from Paris. No problem having both apps up and running together.
>>>>>> I will install Cubase tomorrow and see how that frigs things up.
>>>>>> Backups are wonderful.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As it stands:
>>>>>> 5 x EDS, 2 x Mecs (2 mecs on the way), XP, WC, 2 x ADAT modules
>>>>>> present in Mec 2.
>>>>>> 1 x UAD-2 Duo, 1 x UAD-1
>>>>>> Scope Pro card (14 shark chip)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No Problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Whew!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PS The secret for Scope was to copy to the hard drive first then
>>>>>> install.
>>>>>> Don't know why but it helped after three try's prior.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:495fa3d7@linux...
>>>>>>> Hi Aaron,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well the card goes in first but no 'restart the computer' after
>>>>>>> drivers were found. Still shows in Device manager as working.
>>>>>>> I continue to load software. First I have to load about 30 codes
>>>>>>> OR go get a 'keyfile' from their website. I can't my personal data
>>>>>>> anywhere on their website so I manually type them in. Okay, now
>>>>>>> it asks for hardware and software serial numbers. Hardware is easy
>>>>>>> software is nowhere to be found even with a windows search. I
>>>>>>> skip that. It continues to load the goods. I think, okay I'll just
>>>>>>> have to
>>>>>>> wait for a software code then all will be fine. No. After the
>>>>>>> install
>>>>>>> completes there is no .exe to start the program even in Program
>>>>>>> Files.
>>>>>>> I find it on the CD and it tries to start except it's missing a
>>>>>>> couple of other
>>>>>>> files. I copy it to the program folder in all possible locations
>>>>>>> and even do a
>>>>>>> search for the missing files. Not there. No worky.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now I'm wanting to uninstall and wait for guidance. The uninstall
>>>>>>> won't work either.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good thing there's a backup of before this incident.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have a good weekend. I'll get it when someone calls or emails with
>>>>>>> support.
>>>>>>> Dimitrios?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:495f13ee$1@linux...
>>>>>>>> If I remember right their idea of copy protection is pretty goofy
>>>>>>>> and unfriendly to the end user. Although, NOTHING like the crap
>>>>>>>> Tascam/Giga has put me through. Hang in there bro, I'm sure you'll
>>>>>>>> nail it down.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:495f03fc@linux...
>>>>>>>>> Creamware install not easy or working.
>>>>>>>>> Waiting for tech support.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Probably all my fault.
>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:495bcc27$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>> All plugs are in Paris, wrapped and working with a UAD-2 and
>>>>>>>>>> UAD-1 ver 5.2.
>>>>>>>>>> Paris is working like a champ now. FaderWorks 1.4 is also a
>>>>>>>>>> savior.
>>>>>>>>>> Backup is done. Cubase 4, Creamware 4.5 and Kontakt 3 are next.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'll be back at it after the new year gigs are done. Have a good
>>>>>>>>>> one guys and gals.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:4959d71c@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>> Aaron,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> SIR was the same to the ear.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I wondered the same thing. I haven't got Faderworks
>>>>>>>>>>> installed yet. That's tomorrow. I think it remains the
>>>>>>>>>>> same though.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:4959d4a7$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Just curious... are there any latency changes in native or UAD
>>>>>>>>>>>> plugs with the new rig or have those remained consistent at
>>>>>>>>>>>> previous values?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:4959d112@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Grunt test #1:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 24 track mix with silly amounts of plugins.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I added 12 mono instances of SIR. 1 Autotune.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4 drumagog, 1 editor at sample level showing 6 tracks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> CPU averaged between 16-25%. If this can all be doubled
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and raise the average to 50% CPU I think we'll be in good
>>>>>>>>>>>>> shape with these newfangled computers. I use primarily
>>>>>>>>>>>>> UAD comps and eqs so I'm not too worried anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course there were Paris plugs all over the place too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did encounter a crazy error trying to install a stereo SIR
>>>>>>>>>>>>> across unequal length tracks. That's to be expected still.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> All plugs were loaded while the transport was running.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Autotune made the transport stop but not SIR.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Next I will install Cubase and lock with Paris. Those soft
>>>>>>>>>>>>> synths
>>>>>>>>>>>>> should give it a work out.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ha ha ha hahahahahaaaaaa,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> T.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:4959a14a@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Kerry,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ya Mike is a major league player regarding Paris that's for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have been installing many plugins and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so far with great success. I am about to wrap them and see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how they function. Many are DX and work right out of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> box. Some of the VSTs do too. The Waves SSL is sweet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and didn't show it's quirky display problem that shut the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transport down in my old comp. There is a driver update
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for some video cards because of it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am going back at it and will try to make it quit from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> abuse again only this time with as many SIRs as I can get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going as inserts. This should be fun!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll post back.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:C57ECC48.C1AF%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Huge news, Tom - congratulations, and thanks for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trailblazing for everyone!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll be watching the process with extreme interest - my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> production buddy is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all PC and he wants to have a pretty brawny computer in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> studio, so this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> couldn't have come at a better time for me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike, looks like you hit it out of the park.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - K
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/29/08 2:06 PM, in article 49594d55@linux, "Tom Bruhl"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well everyone, Mike has saved the day by updating the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PSCL for me in particular. I was receiving a new error
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never seen before. After more than a few trys Mike seems
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to have nailed it. Again no funny workarounds with XP Pro,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 mecs, 5 eds, Magma, UAD-2, Quadcore, etc..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will continue loading plugins then finally add the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Creamware card.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 EDS card is sharing with video, USB controllers and a few
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> less important things. Not a glitch in operation and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beast is smooth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and stable. Config in Paris is 64, 160, 210,000. I know,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weird but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not an error in sight and that's dragging 10 tracks in time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all over the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> editor and dropping them whereva... while it's playing 24
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tracks with edits.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The gui is displaying at the sample level on 4 submixes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think you will all like this very very much.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Happy as a lark,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:494fd4d4$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Two ADATs show up in Mec 2 in a 5 eds card -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two mec setup using a quad core. One ADAT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also was installed in Mec 1 at the time. I can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> confirm ADAT sync at this time but the gui operated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as expected in the patchbay.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll need to pick up a creamware sync plate for that test.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I may try the adat machine after all is well here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:494faffc@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll slap two adats into MEC 2 and see what happens for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you guys.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:494fa209@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A new box is in consideration, and maybe a few more adat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cards to link up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my Creamware setup to it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Mike Audet" <mike@mikeaudet.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:494f81fa$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aaron Allen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you using multiple Adat cards with the adat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> updated drivers, per
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chance?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Aaron,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you tried that yet, or are you just considering
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trying it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there are any issues, I want to fix them. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: Grunt Test #1 [message #102236 is a reply to message #102220] Wed, 21 January 2009 17:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [5] is currently offline  Deej [5]
Messages: 373
Registered: March 2008
Senior Member
I have lost the will to go any further.
>>> This is week five of tweaking.
>>>
Maybe it's the Magma
>>> and PCI bus? I've spent more money than I wanted to to begin with.
>>>
>>> Tom

Tom,

I'm sorry to see this grind to a halt. I think the issue is definitely the
Magma. I run two Magmas in my rig for just this reason. Even when I was using
a PCI board I did this. I have tried to run combinations of PCI cards in
Magmas many different configurations. One thing I found out was that when
you start mixing dissimilar devices in the slots, a bottleneck of some sort
is created. I would imagine that this is some IRQ sorting issue, even if
the IRQ assignments aren't apparently in conflict. Perhaps in office machines,
this wouldn't be obvious, but in a hotrodded DAW, there is more demand on
the bussing. Right now I've got two 13 slot Magmas hanging off my DAW. One
of them has the PCIe>PCI adapter and is interfacing with a PCIe slot on the
DAW. the other Magma is hanging off PCI#1. PCI#2 is pretty worthless for
sharing on that particular mobo. I found it to be problematic no matter what
the configuration I was doing with the other slots. Adding a second Magma
to your inventory there "might" solve your problem. It will need to be one
that can use the PCIe adapter host card. If you decide to make this move,
feel free to give me a call if you think I can help, or whatever. I'll be
glad to give you a hand in whatever way. I know how frustrated you are right
now. Been there bro.

Deej
Re: Grunt Test #1 [message #102248 is a reply to message #102236] Wed, 21 January 2009 22:16 Go to previous message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
Senior Member
Ok,

New Bios, Windows is happy.
I seem to be. This sucks.

Paris is about to be loaded as the EDS cards
have taken their appropriate IRQs with the
chosen Audet drivers.

If there is a way I will make this happen.

Tom



"Deej" <noway@jose.net> wrote in message news:4977c1ef$1@linux...
>
> I have lost the will to go any further.
>>>> This is week five of tweaking.
>>>>
> Maybe it's the Magma
>>>> and PCI bus? I've spent more money than I wanted to to begin with.
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>
> Tom,
>
> I'm sorry to see this grind to a halt. I think the issue is definitely the
> Magma. I run two Magmas in my rig for just this reason. Even when I was
> using
> a PCI board I did this. I have tried to run combinations of PCI cards in
> Magmas many different configurations. One thing I found out was that when
> you start mixing dissimilar devices in the slots, a bottleneck of some
> sort
> is created. I would imagine that this is some IRQ sorting issue, even if
> the IRQ assignments aren't apparently in conflict. Perhaps in office
> machines,
> this wouldn't be obvious, but in a hotrodded DAW, there is more demand on
> the bussing. Right now I've got two 13 slot Magmas hanging off my DAW. One
> of them has the PCIe>PCI adapter and is interfacing with a PCIe slot on
> the
> DAW. the other Magma is hanging off PCI#1. PCI#2 is pretty worthless for
> sharing on that particular mobo. I found it to be problematic no matter
> what
> the configuration I was doing with the other slots. Adding a second Magma
> to your inventory there "might" solve your problem. It will need to be one
> that can use the PCIe adapter host card. If you decide to make this move,
> feel free to give me a call if you think I can help, or whatever. I'll be
> glad to give you a hand in whatever way. I know how frustrated you are
> right
> now. Been there bro.
>
> Deej
>
>
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